The United States thought about the destruction of terrorists cheap fighters

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The US Air Force is considering the formation of international squadrons from low-cost fighter jets, which will be used to attack targets of terrorists in the Middle East, Africa and Asia, writes Wall Street Journal.

Creation of squadrons from relatively inexpensive aircraft would allow US fighter jets and their allies to be deployed in areas where their capabilities are more necessary. For example, representatives of Congress and the US military believe that high-tech aircraft would be useful for "containment missions" in Europe and Asia, as well as help to cope with the critical shortage of US air force pilots.



The United States thought about the destruction of terrorists cheap fighters


As the US moves its fleet to new advanced fighter aircraft, such as the F-22 and F-35, they have to deal with more and more issues related to the cost of using these aircraft. Thus, the acquisition of one such fighter costs the Pentagon 150 million dollars, and another 35 thousand dollars per hour is spent to destroy such planes of the terrorist camp.

Now that Russia and China are investing in their armed forces and are becoming more and more efficient, the United States faces an additional problem when deploying a limited number of secret military aircraft to deter so-called competitors, the newspaper writes.

To counter the terrorists planned to use light and cheap aircraft. Speech, in particular, can go about light Brazilian-made Super Tucano turboprop attack aircraft, which the US purchased for Afghanistan.
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  1. +7
    19 January 2018 16: 04
    The United States thought about the destruction of terrorists ... but the terrorists don’t think about destruction.
    1. +13
      19 January 2018 16: 05
      Let the Japanese Kamikaze plant them! One way airplane!
      It is checked by the same Japanese, on Americans ... Effectively and faultlessly!
      1. +11
        19 January 2018 16: 10
        Have come ... The United States buys planes from Brazil ... wassat By the way, is it nothing that he gets off of a light machine gun?
        1. +8
          19 January 2018 16: 25
          And you thought. For the price of one or two F-35s, you can assemble a whole squadron from such cornmen)
        2. +1
          19 January 2018 17: 23
          Quote: marlin1203
          Have come ... The United States is buying planes from Brazil.

          hi
          In fact, the US rating is now undergoing a low level and is constantly decreasing. According to European agencies:
        3. 0
          19 January 2018 18: 07
          Quote: marlin1203
          Have come ... The United States buys planes from Brazil ... wassat By the way, is it nothing that he gets off of a light machine gun?

          not, their private traders have a P-47 M Thunderbolt, ours needs to remember the IL-10 ...
        4. +4
          21 January 2018 16: 54
          Quote: marlin1203
          By the way, is it nothing that he gets off of a light machine gun?

          You personally hundreds of them felled? Can you tell me when the last Supertuccano was shot down in a combat situation? Maybe before you make such statements, you need a little study of the statistics of combat use. fool
      2. +7
        19 January 2018 16: 27
        Quote: Logall
        Let the Japanese Kamikaze plant them!

        1. +6
          19 January 2018 16: 42
          Exactly! Maybe the Japanese will remember their former pride, Yes, they will send their planes to their bases ...
          1. 0
            20 January 2018 15: 07
            about the samurai pride, received the Kid and the Fat Man, and after the war they became lackeys, I don’t understand ,,,,
    2. +4
      19 January 2018 16: 12
      Familiar tactics .. They will hang air bombs from WWII on them and will massively bomb villages and cities (from great heights) and chase lonely shepherds through the desert ..
      1. +7
        19 January 2018 16: 16
        R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi - they have enough bomb, but no brains! Yesterday they gave militants MANPADS, and today a piston aircraft is being substituted for their missiles! fool The target is still better not to find! !! belay
        1. +9
          19 January 2018 16: 54
          Quote: Herkulesich
          but no brains! Yesterday they gave militants MANPADS, and today a piston aircraft is being substituted for their missiles!

          I don’t know, I don’t know how MANPADS will react to the piston, the gases are at a temperature lower than that of jet aircraft. Well, for those who are screaming about what can be knocked down with a stick, it’s enough to recall the attack aircraft Il 2, during the Second World War, I think this feint with my ears has the right to exist.
          1. +2
            19 January 2018 17: 06
            I will add that for the states this makes a lot of sense, because on cheaper aircraft (read non-jet) you can find many pilots of civil aviation. Learn and fight.
          2. NKT
            +9
            19 January 2018 17: 10
            IL-2 was armored

        2. +5
          19 January 2018 17: 20
          Quote: Herkulesich
          R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi - they have enough bomb, but no brains! Yesterday they gave militants MANPADS, and today a piston aircraft is being substituted for their missiles! fool The target is still better not to find! !! belay

          ISIS is a US project and they will agree with them, the hunt will be repeated once again for the shepherds and from a great height of the bombing provocative Syria, etc. The conflict on the BV needs to be maintained at all costs (preferably cheaper ..)
        3. +5
          19 January 2018 21: 23
          According to Wikipedia, this turbo-prop engine has a toucan. And by the way, under the fuselage, between the wings, the ball of the electron-optical guidance station is visible. So it is quite possible to use GBU and other gimmicks, for example, “hellfires”.
          1. +4
            19 January 2018 21: 44
            Quote: Dedall
            and other gimmicks, such as hellfires.

            That's what the USA is counting on, like we’re just scaring and the S-400 shouldn’t be wasted on us .. They are changing tactics, but Russia is also not sleeping!
            There are specialists in Russia!
        4. +2
          20 January 2018 01: 30
          Quote: Herkulesich
          and today a piston plane is being substituted for their missiles

          The article is about turboprops ...
  2. +2
    19 January 2018 16: 04
    And the terrorists will be these aircraft, taking into account the delivered MANPADS, to bring down packs! So to each "Tukano" in the kit there should also go a coffin! am
    1. +1
      19 January 2018 16: 14
      DShK enough for the eyes!
      1. +10
        19 January 2018 16: 26
        Quote: Tamagon
        DShK enough for the eyes!

        Yeah, you have to fly and bomb three fuel trucks on the TU-160. And uncle Vanya will pay pensions to the elderly. The Americans thought correctly. If you believe our specialists, then REB has reached a certain perfection and can crush the frequencies at which anti-aircraft missiles work. Our planes in Syria shot down a little and thank God. And the cost of an hour of flight and the costs are very large. It's like a gun on sparrows. I think ours are also thinking about this issue. It was not without reason that they began to write that the Yak-Xnumx could be used as a light attack aircraft, even the SR-Xnumx, and that is, a proposal to use it as an attack aircraft to combat gang formations.
        1. +2
          19 January 2018 16: 43
          maybe there is more Yak-152 analogue?
        2. +4
          19 January 2018 18: 22
          Quote: captain
          It was not without reason that they began to write that the Yak-130 can be used as a light attack aircraft, even the SR-10, and that is, a proposal to use it as an attack aircraft, to combat bandit formations.

          IL-10 will be cheaper ...

          this one is better:
          IL-40
          1. +4
            19 January 2018 18: 44
            Quote: PSih2097
            this one is better:
            IL-40

            IL-40 could be very useful to us in due time ... eh Khrushchev Khrushchev crying
            1. NKT
              +1
              19 January 2018 22: 52
              Khrushchev and where? Zhukov needs to be blamed. He was the Minister of Defense and he signed the directive on the elimination of attack aircraft as a branch of the armed forces.
          2. +1
            20 January 2018 05: 03

            was like that - IL-102. But he, in my opinion, is too heavy and sophisticated for the destruction of bearded men
            1. 0
              20 January 2018 15: 16
              but the cannon in the tail, in order to suppress the anti-aircraft guns when exiting the attack, the arrows did on IL-2
        3. +3
          19 January 2018 18: 56
          EW has reached a certain perfection and can crush the frequencies at which anti-aircraft missiles operate.


          In portable passive "head", there is nothing to crush. Now there is nothing to catch the armored helicopter, only to scare the cows. Attack aircraft and helicopters flew over a more or less serious enemy. The last Ukrainians were probably those who tried it. They don’t want to check anymore.
        4. +1
          20 January 2018 05: 00
          The American idea is very robust. The departure cost of a modern attack aircraft even of the Su-25 type is not comparable to a simple turboprop airplane. And if this airplane has the ability to heap bombs, missiles and light shells in heaps, then he has no price. Especially in the absence of anti-aircraft defense. And against the rifleman - armor as in the IL-2 or IL-10. That's just the Yak-130 is unlikely to be an airplane of this class - too high-tech, although, I believe that it would not hurt to make a light attack aircraft from it.
          1. +1
            20 January 2018 17: 54
            Quote: Gritsa
            The American idea is very robust.

            But what, the idea of ​​shock drones failed successfully?
    2. +3
      19 January 2018 16: 18
      MANPADS for such eagles is an expensive pleasure. For such equipment and ZUShek enough with a margin.
    3. +1
      19 January 2018 16: 55
      Quote: Herkulesich
      taking into account the delivered MANPADS, bring down packs!

      The same can be said about attack helicopters.
      Quote: Herkulesich
      So to each "Tukano" in the kit there should also go a coffin!

      According to your logic: TWO coffins should go to each Ka-52nd or Mi-28th in the kit, and to the Mi-35th as many as three.
      Quote: Tamagon
      DShK enough for the eyes!

      Urgently ban Mi-17 sorties in the combat zone!
      1. 0
        19 January 2018 18: 05
        But do we use the eight for the bombing of barmaley ???
        Or is it worth using the su-25, which was created for this work?
        1. +1
          19 January 2018 18: 16
          Quote: Tamagon
          But do we use the eight for the bombing of barmaley ???

          In Afghanistan and Chechnya - yes, as in Syria - I do not know.
      2. +3
        19 January 2018 19: 16
        Urgently ban Mi-17 sorties in the combat zone!

        So for a long time already do not bother Few Mi-28s and Mi-24s shot down in Syria? Or the same dashing Ukrainians in the Donbass? MANPADS even the old "ancient" types in Afghanistan quickly changed tactics. In the 85th, more Mi-8s with high-explosives at the BShU flew, and in 87 already the Mi-24s ceased to take bortaches - why an extra coffin.
    4. 0
      19 January 2018 17: 22
      Quote: Herkulesich
      And the terrorists will be these aircraft, taking into account the delivered MANPADS, to bring down packs! So to each "Tukano" in the kit there should also go a coffin! am

      And if you bury in the Tucano itself, it will turn out even cheaper ...
      It’s interesting, but the pilots for this hearse will be appointed or the volunteers will be recruited in a mental hospital ...
  3. +4
    19 January 2018 16: 05
    Perhaps we should have thought of such a concept. With the SVP-24 system, you can bomb from any rotorcraft, low-speed, transport carrier for example.
    1. 0
      19 January 2018 16: 15
      Are you considering an 2?
      1. +2
        19 January 2018 16: 33
        Are you considering an 2?

        Rather, 2 laughing
  4. +5
    19 January 2018 16: 06
    Now they even plan to use someone else’s aviation in conflict? With the corresponding arrangement of costs to solve their problems and without risking either equipment or pilots. Here are the cunning crooks
    1. +4
      19 January 2018 16: 16
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      With the corresponding arrangement of costs to solve their problems and without risking either equipment or pilots. Here are the cunning crooks

      That’s exactly what they count on .. The Russians appeared on the BV and jokes with them will be badly brought down by their vaunted “invisibles” and everything will go to dust! They are terribly afraid of Russia and China and this is buzzing ..
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        1. +4
          19 January 2018 17: 59
          A generation is growing in spite of all Western liberal propaganda .. We have profiled the country, and they will restore it and make it the first in the world! Country creator and justice, stability ..

          These genes are just ..
  5. +1
    19 January 2018 16: 07
    Weak on f35 to fight with their pocket militants? Or will it be a pity when these planes begin to fall, shot down by those whom they themselves were preparing to fight yesterday? fool
  6. +6
    19 January 2018 16: 13
    The United States thought about the destruction of terrorists cheap fighters


    ... If only sirens would not forget to put wassat
  7. +3
    19 January 2018 16: 16
    The U.S. Air Force is consideringthe ability to form international squadrons of low-cost fighterswhich will be used to strike at terrorist targets in the Middle East, Africa and Asia, writes the Wall Street Journal.
    So I understand that for inexpensive fighters and pilots will be CHEAP, that is, from local and others who are ready to fight for a penny ....
    1. +10
      19 January 2018 16: 41
      The salt of the idea in my opinion is that different Bulgarians, Romanians and other partners of the “second development speeds” will fight for American adventures, and the light elves will protect their countries with high technology without sparing themselves
      1. +3
        19 January 2018 16: 51
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        Salt ideas

        You understood this correctly, with one clarification ...
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        different Bulgarians, Romanians and other partners of the "second development speeds" will fight for American adventures

        Now in the first place are Ukrainians, still available and in the right quantity, and most importantly, having sufficient education.
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        and the light elves protect their countries with high technology without sparing themselves

        Especially their family beds ... and women.
    2. +1
      20 January 2018 19: 51
      of course. they have very developed agricultural aviation. so there are plenty of cheap pilots with constant flight practice.
  8. 0
    19 January 2018 16: 24
    yeah, chronicles of dive corn)
  9. +1
    19 January 2018 16: 34
    The United States thought about the destruction of terrorists cheap fighters

    Just thought it how? And here is the answer below:
    consider forming international squadrons of low-cost fighters,

    I hope our pilots are not "international" enough. And their genealogy is “evil empire”, 1st place, ahead of ISIS, in danger to the United States. They even say that .... they are not tolerant. (And the American pilots, replacing the diapers, firmly assert: they are not adequate!) How can they then entrust the cheap fighter from the USA itself?
    Not worthy! feel And thank God.
  10. +2
    19 January 2018 16: 34
    In principle, as an alternative to replacing helicopters in some situations of patrolling and fire support ... you can consider it, in contrast to them, both the ceiling and speed will be higher, and you can actually put any weapons.
  11. +1
    19 January 2018 16: 39
    As always, the Americans will take over financing, logistics, weapons, and meat from Poland, Ukraine and the Baltic states, as well as a couple of three countries for financing, will fulfill the will of the United States.
  12. 0
    19 January 2018 16: 44
    Aman, aman, in the sky the night Yankees !!!
    1. +2
      19 January 2018 16: 45
      night diapers
  13. +1
    19 January 2018 16: 55
    Who, interestingly, will act as "cheap" pilots?
    1. +4
      19 January 2018 18: 06
      Quote: Sergey-8848
      Who, interestingly, will act as "cheap" pilots?

      They have a printing press, I think there will be many who want it .. And the devils will be trained (suicide bombers) even better .. They have nowhere to go, the Russians dispersed and killed .. So we are preparing for a new tactic!
  14. +1
    19 January 2018 18: 04
    The United States thought about the destruction of terrorists cheap fighters

    It is cheaper not even in comparison with the F35, but also with the F16 and Thunderbolts.
  15. +5
    19 January 2018 18: 09
    Against all Papuan terrorists, our IL-28 would be very useful now. How many thousands of them the Nikita the holy fool cut. I remember in Tolmachevo hundreds of them were collected for storage and then cut.
  16. 0
    19 January 2018 18: 17
    The corn picker drives!
  17. +7
    19 January 2018 18: 43
    Today, the Russian military conducted an invisible aircraft test. The tests were recognized successful ... Nobody saw the plane!
    And, if you see a pilot flying alone in the sky, then the Russian military-industrial complex has managed to build an invisible aircraft. laughing
    1. +1
      19 January 2018 19: 10
      Cheap humor of a holy fool. Hee hee
      1. +8
        19 January 2018 19: 28
        I look, you have all the holy fools and the Papuans and Nikita and the navalnenok and me. You are well done! Without respect. hi
        1. +1
          19 January 2018 19: 44
          "Holy Papuans" does not need to be attributed to me - this is your gag. You still attribute to me the "holy fools" IL-28 But Nikita, Navalny and those like you, ready to distort everything - holy fools. But Navalny and you are even worse. What to take from holy fools (mentally touched)? But you deliberately muddy the water in our country.
          1. +2
            19 January 2018 20: 01
            Quote: Piramidon
            But Nikita, Navalny and people like you who are ready to misinterpret everything - holy fools. But Navalny and you are even worse. What to take from holy fools (mentally touched)? But you deliberately muddy the water in our country.

            Stepan, everything’s right, but better calm hi ..They specifically provoke, then complain and ban! (believe my experience ..))))
            1. +1
              19 January 2018 20: 02
              Thanks for the advice. good
          2. +6
            19 January 2018 20: 03
            First find out the meaning of the word "holy fool", an antipyrine molecule.
            1. +3
              19 January 2018 20: 14
              Quote: Terenin
              First find out the meaning of the word "holy fool", an antipyrine molecule.

              Rest Terenin and change the flag, do not disgrace the USSR! negative
              1. +8
                19 January 2018 20: 33
                Clear. Out of respect for you, I fall silent. But it’s not that the flag, even the phone number does not change. I have the honor.
                1. +3
                  19 January 2018 21: 54
                  Quote: Terenin
                  Clear. Out of respect for you, I fall silent. But it’s not that the flag, even the phone number does not change. I have the honor.

                  A decent answer, maybe I didn’t understand something ..? hi
  18. +1
    19 January 2018 19: 10
    We also need such aircraft very much for the fight against terrorists.
  19. +1
    19 January 2018 19: 49
    The biplanes of Farman and the Wright Brothers will go into business soon. You don’t need to learn from them at all - they are so cheap that you will have to spend more dough to drive to the airport and land than to build a new one in numerous bed shops.
  20. +4
    19 January 2018 20: 15
    The Americans follow the path of “Tirpitz” and “Yamato” - so expensive super linkors that Germany and Japan could not risk them in real battles, but in the end they lost them without any effect on the course of the war.
    So we are waiting for the next-generation miracle plane and at the price of 1015 lard bucks, which will be the pride of the Pentagon and the United States Congress, but which will be too expensive to fight.
  21. 0
    19 January 2018 21: 36
    To think is not to do! Why piston airplanes in the mountains? Did they learn how to hang? It’s easier for them to put normal helicopters there!
  22. +2
    19 January 2018 22: 20
    Quote: Herkulesich
    And the terrorists will be these aircraft, taking into account the delivered MANPADS, to bring down packs! So to each "Tukano" in the kit there should also go a coffin! am


    Quote: Tamagon
    DShK enough for the eyes!

    To date, only 314 EMU-150 Super Tucano aircraft have been produced. They flew approximately 130 hours. Of these, 000 hours, i.e. 18/000 of all time, are in combat conditions. With this None Were Lost From Anti-aircraft Fire. so contrary to the opinion of such a comrade as Herculesych, THEY DO NOT FALL THEY IN BUNS

    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    Now they even plan to use someone else’s aviation in conflict? With the corresponding arrangement of costs to solve their problems and without risking either equipment or pilots. Here are the cunning crooks

    Well, they can and will use someone else’s equipment, as well as pilots, although they have their own aircraft of this type. But cooking your own is long and expensive. It’s cheaper to actually use pilots from countries that use such aircraft and have experience in counterguerrilla activities

    Quote: alstr
    I will add that for the states this makes a lot of sense, because on cheaper aircraft (read non-jet) you can find many pilots of civil aviation. Learn and fight.

    And I agree with that. The reserve of pilots will be significant.

    By the way, I don’t think that using KOIN airplanes against the same terrorists in the Middle East is such a silly idea. Especially if you know that the intelligence component will be involved. And to get into a light attack aircraft, which will approach the target at a height of 10-15 meters in the desert and strike a target with the same unguided or guided missiles - this must be a demigod. Track the direction, deflect the MANPADS or machine gun, and even hit the target, which is low-contrast for the GOS MANPADS - this is somewhere at the level of fiction
  23. 0
    19 January 2018 22: 28
    You can take a taxi for 300 rubles, or you can for 2000, the Yankees can count bucks.
  24. 0
    20 January 2018 00: 08
    In fact, fighters exterminate.
  25. +2
    20 January 2018 07: 18
    And where did their vaunted drones go? Or were afraid of the electronic warfare.
    1. +1
      20 January 2018 18: 06
      Quote: renics
      And where did their vaunted drones go? Or were afraid of the electronic warfare.

      I’m also curious here - were drone drums blown away?
  26. +1
    20 January 2018 11: 28
    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Herkulesich
    And the terrorists will be these aircraft, taking into account the delivered MANPADS, to bring down packs! So to each "Tukano" in the kit there should also go a coffin! am


    Quote: Tamagon
    DShK enough for the eyes!

    To date, only 314 EMU-150 Super Tucano aircraft have been produced. They flew approximately 130 hours. Of these, 000 hours, i.e. 18/000 of all time, are in combat conditions. With this None Were Lost From Anti-aircraft Fire. so contrary to the opinion of such a comrade as Herculesych, THEY DO NOT FALL THEY IN BUNS

    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    Now they even plan to use someone else’s aviation in conflict? With the corresponding arrangement of costs to solve their problems and without risking either equipment or pilots. Here are the cunning crooks

    Well, they can and will use someone else’s equipment, as well as pilots, although they have their own aircraft of this type. But cooking your own is long and expensive. It’s cheaper to actually use pilots from countries that use such aircraft and have experience in counterguerrilla activities

    Quote: alstr
    I will add that for the states this makes a lot of sense, because on cheaper aircraft (read non-jet) you can find many pilots of civil aviation. Learn and fight.

    And I agree with that. The reserve of pilots will be significant.

    By the way, I don’t think that using KOIN airplanes against the same terrorists in the Middle East is such a silly idea. Especially if you know that the intelligence component will be involved. And to get into a light attack aircraft, which will approach the target at a height of 10-15 meters in the desert and strike a target with the same unguided or guided missiles - this must be a demigod. Track the direction, deflect the MANPADS or machine gun, and even hit the target, which is low-contrast for the GOS MANPADS - this is somewhere at the level of fiction

    They had no losses, because they fought in the jungles of South America against drug dealers, in the conditions of the jungle of heavily small-caliber anti-aircraft defense, the trees interfere and it is easier to quietly pick up.
  27. 0
    20 January 2018 15: 11
    I heard that in Brazil until recently, the Kingcobra stood as patrol and auxiliary fighters, Or is it wrong?
  28. 0
    20 January 2018 18: 50
    In the presence of the "Warthog" to invent some fighters to fight terrorists ... Some kind of clinic. The attack aircraft solve these problems, and they already have an attack aircraft.
  29. +2
    20 January 2018 19: 51
    Quote: Tamagon
    They had no losses, because they fought in the jungles of South America against drug dealers, in the conditions of the jungle of heavily small-caliber anti-aircraft defense, the trees interfere and it is easier to quietly pick up.

    I do not argue. But drug traffickers are not bastards. MANPADS certainly have. In addition, the Super Tucano was supplied not only to Brazil. But also to the countries of the Middle East, more precisely, Western Asia. And there is no jungle

    Quote: bk0010
    In the presence of the "Warthog" to invent some fighters to fight terrorists ... Some kind of clinic. The attack aircraft solve these problems, and they already have an attack aircraft.

    A-10 are in limbo. Either they will be written off, or not. And it’s not always necessary to drive a car with a load capacity of several tons. Sometimes a piston (turboprop) aircraft is enough. For one, two or three jeeps to drive a jet attack aircraft is not always profitable

    Quote: KaPToC
    Quote: renics
    And where did their vaunted drones go? Or were afraid of the electronic warfare.

    I’m also curious here - were drone drums blown away?

    Why were blown away? Each vegetable has its own time. Somewhere a drone, somewhere jet, somewhere a piston (turboprop)
  30. +2
    21 January 2018 01: 00
    Such aircraft would be useful for border guards: to provide tactical protection of the air borders - from probes, paragliders, balloons, etc., for which serious aviation operate - like guns on sparrows.
    By the way, I believe that the lack of light aviation at the border made it possible to carry out an action with the passage of Rust. Otherwise, he would be dealt with even in the border zone.
  31. +1
    21 January 2018 18: 35
    Will not work. A cheap fighter can be made, but
    here cheap pilots do not happen nowadays. Knock down such a bird
    easy. A pilot will die, two - a cry to the whole world. And landing all the cheap aircraft for fun.
    Only in an unmanned version can pass.

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