Attack on a school in the Republic of Buryatia

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After the tragedy in the school of Perm, a similar incident occurred in one of the educational institutions of the Republic of Buryatia. Local information sources report that a ninth-grader from a school attacked an 41-year-old teacher and several students.

In total, as it became known at the moment - four victims. In particular, the teacher was diagnosed with a craniocerebral injury, three schoolchildren received stab wounds.



It is reported that the teenager was planning to set fire to the school building No. XXUMX, located in the Sosnovy Bor microdistrict in Ulan-Ude. And he embodied this plan into reality. The student broke into the school building, holding an incendiary bottle and an ax. It is also known that the attacker had a knife with him.

In the classroom, in which the criminal ran into, a fire broke out, which was managed to be extinguished in time by the EMERCOM staff who arrived. The ignition area was about 15 square meters.

As a result, over 500 people had to be evacuated from the school building.

Attack on a school in the Republic of Buryatia


From the “Anonymous 03” public (the author’s text is preserved):
The boy threw the hammers into the classroom on the third floor, chopped off the boy’s finger and injured one girl. The firefighters quickly arrived, but the police and the ambulance arrived in less than 5 − 15 minutes.


Recall that the attack on the school number 127 in Perm was made on January 15. Then 10 people suffered, including the teacher and primary school students.
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  1. 0
    19 January 2018 07: 06
    It is not clear where the protection of school institutions was, there was little chance in Perm, it didn’t teach anything. What a mess, after all, now you need to be afraid to send your child to school.
    1. +12
      19 January 2018 07: 14
      Quote: Spartanez300
      It is not clear where the protection of school facilities

      Where would she come from?
      1. +12
        19 January 2018 07: 49
        So from the beginning of the FIRST Chichenskaya company, protection in schools was brought up. At least in the central region.
        I’m more interested in: what was this small freak with a bottle and an ax guided by, making such a decision - to set fire to school !? Yes, not in a quiet, but on display? Maybe again our worthy organfs which group a la "blue whale" in social networks spoiled?
        1. +4
          19 January 2018 08: 56
          Quote: tchoni
          I’m more interested in: what was this small freak with a bottle and an ax guided by, making such a decision - to set fire to school !?

          "Complex of Herostratus" as in that song from the cartoon, "Good deeds cannot be glorified"
          1. +4
            19 January 2018 10: 13
            Quote: LSA57
            Kopleks Herostratus "as in that song from the cartoon," Good deeds, you can not become famous "

            I am afraid that in this case, he would burn the establishment at night and quietly. Or a director's car would have stolen. It seems that here and in Perm it is something else. Everything painfully looks like a demonstration campaign.
            1. +3
              19 January 2018 10: 49
              Quote: tchoni
              I am afraid that in this case, he would burn the institution at night and quietly

              I remind you that Herostratus burned the temple so that his name remains in history. that’s why it ... went to public crime. it makes no sense to burn at night. nobody will know who did it. but I want fame. he is now reveling in the thought that his name on the internet is rinsed
            2. +8
              19 January 2018 11: 05
              Quote: tchoni
              that here and in perm it is something else

              Yes, it’s just that one inadequate heard about other inadequacies, and so the hormonal explosion is to blame due to adolescence, but these idiots need to be protected from the elementary grades, they must be divided, a block system must be created to exclude any intersection. Even in the Union, the kids got from these inadequacies, and they offended and took the money. Now there is a danger of sexual violence, mutilation and murder. These drag drugs, criminal morals, etc. This Sovdep system must be destroyed. In elite institutions, though not so dramatically, but also have their own problems. These spit, the same secondary schools, where the children of the people who create the gross product of the state, always suffer from the idiotic criminal scum and their offspring.
              1. +7
                19 January 2018 13: 00
                Quote: hrych
                These drag drugs, criminal morals, etc. This Sovdep system must be destroyed

                Yeah, now there are injuries, drugs and the complete debilitation of children, but in the 26th year of capitalism, the "Sovdep" system that "must be destroyed" is to blame.
                So just drug, attacks and degenerate children are the result of the destruction of the "Sovdep system."
                Quote: hrych
                it is necessary to separate, create a block system in order to exclude any intersection.

                Hooray education reform. We will bring it to its logical end, break the bond between generations and create criminal miserable ghettos in high school. Let's put out the fire with gasoline.
                Quote: hrych
                In elite establishments

                Where did we suddenly get "elite institutions" if the "Sovdep system" has not yet been destroyed? Fell from the sky? And by the way, the children of the real "Russian elite" of all sorts, sorry, Lord, Peskov-Lavrov study in the West, they prefer "cattle", in general, not to intersect.
                Quote: hrych
                Don't give a damn about these

                The answer is wrong. This is not for you to spit on the "elite", this is the "elite" to spit on you. And with particular pleasure, the "elite" spits on those people who not only allow themselves to be turned into human dust and the "electorate", but also actively support and glorify their slavish state.
                About this type of thinking it is said, “A slave who is aware of his slavish position and struggles against him is a revolutionary. A slave who is not aware of his slavery and vegetates in a silent, unconscious and wordless slave life is just a slave. A slave whose saliva flows when he smugly describes the delights of slave life and admires the good and good master, there is a serf, boor "
                1. +1
                  19 January 2018 15: 45
                  How many children were tortured by Slivko, Fisher-Golovkin, Chikatilo, etc. In the USSR, these ghouls were easy to get close to children.
                  https://topwar.ru/134118-napadenie-na-shkolu-v-re
                  spublike-buryatiya.html # comments
                  Check out each person’s biography and how much was sacrificed to the crappy Sovdep system. And if you have not seen a gopher, it does not mean that it was not there.
                  If you do not understand well, then I explain again that children and those who are enraged from puberty are inadequate, should be separated. In the case of Soviets, after 8th grade, inadequacies were sent to vocational schools and offenses at school were sharply reduced, teachers and normal students could breathe quietly, although because of them, vocational schools became garbage. And this is a couple of class, but this is enough to poison everything. This Sovdepovskaya school was different, there were no drugs, but they ate mash, denatured alcohol, sniffed glue. All this has migrated in our time, to high school. And it was paradise, not the USSR, and it was academicians who trained you to listen to you, this is far from the case, the level of education was lagging behind, the era of informatics and computerization was blown away. We had computer science without computers wassat Class. Also, the theses of the 26th Congress of the CPSU and other rubbish were crammed, Lenin flashed everywhere, taught low-grade works such as "Small Earth", "Renaissance" and "Tselin" ...
                  Well and most importantly, the story has passed its verdict and is not subject to appeal, although cry for your Trotsky, Uritsky and other rubbish.
                2. 0
                  19 January 2018 16: 18
                  I copied the wrong address
                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Серийные_
                  killers_SSSR
              2. +2
                19 January 2018 19: 31
                Even in the Union, the kids got from these inadequacies, and they offended and took the money. Now there is a danger of sexual violence, mutilation and murder. These drag drugs, criminal morals, etc. This Sovdep system must be destroyed.
                Where is it from? When the Union, if at school someone had a fight. then all the participants were called to the teacher’s council, the instigator could be registered in the children's room of the police, information about the place of work of the parents was reported. Any "non-instability" is an emergency, with all the consequences, starting with the parents’s call to school. The system worked and brought results. On my own I will say that during my studies at our school there were no more than a dozen fights. Not with my participation, but in school in general, for ten years of my studies. With the withdrawal of money from minors in general nonsense. For this they could have closed the criminal case, not to mention the expulsion from school and all that I listed.
                1. +1
                  19 January 2018 20: 43
                  Everything was and was hiding, as in the army there was terry hazing. Coffins walked, but did they punish someone? Many children from the persecution of their peers and lousy, correct and principled teachers committed suicide. The main feature is that absolutely everything was hushed up. They learned about Slivko and Chikatilo only during the collapse of the USSR, like the communists did not want to excite society. But Slivko was a pioneer leader in pioneer camps. Engaged in amateur photography and filming, his films received awards from local authorities, in which Slivko was in good standing. In addition to membership in the CPSU, he was an honored teacher of the RSFSR school (1977), a drummer of communist labor, a deputy of the Nevinnomyssk City Council, and a master of sports in mountain tourism. Just some, as they lived in a parallel world, continue to remember when the trees were large. And jargon and criminal orders penetrated the school environment. And they imposed these orders in the army, and professional technical education, which since the Russian Empire was the forge of geniuses, turned into a semi-prison cesspool. I also studied in a prosperous school, but a few bastards were crap until they were smoothed out and there was nothing to take from their parents, so they pulled them by the ears to grade 8, and then a decent change grew up for them. And there were the facts of crime that were hiding in every way. The classroom secretly told us, but the rest didn’t know a damn what was going on right under their nose.
                  1. +2
                    19 January 2018 21: 26
                    I see ... They heard about the Union, but like in a joke about Caruso.
                    1. 0
                      19 January 2018 21: 38
                      Quote: Spez
                      They heard about the Union

                      And where is this union? Only in your good memory is this chernukha. laughing So my childhood passed under the Union, in the middle of studying at a university he rested, so our generation is already retiring from service. The next generation does not really remember him, tell them how everything was fine, although they absolutely do not give a damn and that's right. They are generally patriots of Russia and they are far from Soviet values.
                      1. +2
                        19 January 2018 21: 50
                        So my childhood passed under the Union, in the middle of studying at a university he rested
                        So intentionally distort what happened. In the slag.
        2. AUL
          0
          19 January 2018 09: 38
          Stuck about, and that's led to the exploits!
          1. +3
            19 January 2018 10: 51
            Quote from AUL
            Stuck about, and that's led to the exploits!

            According to preliminary information from the press service of the Government of Buryatia, at about 9.35 (04:35 Moscow time), three young people entered school No. 5.
            “At school, they put on masks and threw a Molotov cocktail into the study of Russian language and literature, where a lesson was held by 7th grade students. A fire has occurred in the office. When the students and the teacher ran out of the office, the attackers met them at the exit and inflicted bodily harm. Four victims were taken to the hospital, including three students of the 7th grade, their condition is being specified. Also, one of the attackers caused damage during the detention, he was taken to a medical facility under escort, and his identity is being conducted. The search for the remaining two attackers continues, ”the press service said.

            it’s unlike on the stoned
        3. +2
          19 January 2018 15: 26
          Of course they spit it. Only not the organs. and we . the people. And we slap our education. and hence burps in the form of such cases. We studied on the principles of "man to man, brother. die yourself. and help a comrade." and our children blow in the ears "if you want a new smartphone. come to the department store naked" and so on. It’s necessary that something to fix in the conservatory "
        4. 0
          20 January 2018 01: 53
          Quote: tchoni
          what was this small freak with a bottle and an ax guided by, making such a decision - to set fire to school !?

          I got deuces regularly, as they say. I decided to improve my performance in this way.
          Revenge is an "evil teacher" - an ax on the head. Lord, she was going to school in the morning, collected notebooks, painted her face and went ... to get an ax in her head.
          That is what is the provision of educational services, and not the educational process! Feel the difference as they say ...
      2. +4
        19 January 2018 07: 57
        You probably haven’t been to school for a long time. Private security officers, the Cossacks are guarding us in the Kuban. Every adult requires documents and is recorded in a journal. But children are not checked.
        Quote: insular
        Quote: Spartanez300
        It is not clear where the protection of school facilities

        Where would she come from?
        1. 0
          19 January 2018 08: 06
          Quote: 210ox
          You probably haven’t been to school for a long time. ChOPy, in our Kuban

          I have never been to school in the Kuban at all. So that's how it happened historically.
          In the Far East, private security companies both appeared in schools and disappeared. And as far as I know, in the whole country, security schools do not have.
          1. +1
            19 January 2018 09: 54
            Everything as usual rests on money. Indeed, there is no protection at all in provincial schools for the most part. The educational process is not enough, what kind of protection is there.
            Periodically disconnected for non-payment, communication, or even electricity, is a normal condition for a provincial school.
          2. +1
            19 January 2018 14: 16
            Quote: insular
            Quote: 210ox
            You probably haven’t been to school for a long time. ChOPy, in our Kuban

            I have never been to school in the Kuban at all. So that's how it happened historically.
            In the Far East, private security companies both appeared in schools and disappeared. And as far as I know, in the whole country, security schools do not have.

            In general, there should be security at the school (this is a federal norm and funding comes from the federal budget) if you do not have security at the school — everything from the headmaster and above
        2. +13
          19 January 2018 08: 47
          Quote: 210ox
          Each adult requires documents and is recorded in a journal

          hi In the cases of Perm and Buryatia, the attack was carried out by adolescents who studied in these schools. Carrying a knife or even an hatchet to school, given the time of year and the availability of winter clothing, will not be difficult, agree. Regarding security, etc. Well, in our schools, too, they ask, write down, but “Masha's women” do this (as a rule, cleaning ladies and + before starting classes dezh. Teacher. There is no money for private security. Especially if there is a school with a small number of students. So that's for sure not a solution to the problem ...
          We have a lot of violence on TV. Cruelty is even cultivated. Watch movies, watch MATCH TV channel, for example. Every day there is so much fighting in mixed martial arts, where the rules simply cultivate cruelty. You can show them - probably yes, but only at a certain "not childish" time. In general, there is a whole range of problems in families, and in schools, and in society ....
          1. +3
            19 January 2018 11: 24
            In the cases of Perm and ...

            ...with Perm. City Permian, regional center Perm the edges!
            We do not cover Maskva. For instance...
            1. +3
              19 January 2018 11: 47
              Quote: nik-karata
              We do not cover Maskqua. For instance.

              hi Well, I’m not on purpose ... recourse
              1. +2
                19 January 2018 11: 59
                hi Read! With baptism! drinks
      3. +18
        19 January 2018 10: 14
        Security will not help ... Hello to the destroyed institutions: October, pioneers, Komsomol members ... As they say, devastation is not in closets, devastation is in the heads. If you do not care about youth (from the state) without raising and not following it, then youth will not make you wait with an answer. Under the USSR, no matter how much he was cried out and crucified, it was the state that took upon itself the lion's share of raising (and somewhere providing) children, now this obligation has completely borne by parents and not everyone (alas) has time to raise their own children. Even if you raised your child, it is not a fact that his classmates / classmates are brought up to begin with at least adequately (if at all brought up). UNTIL THE INSTITUTIONS FOR WORKING WITH CHILDREN / TEENAGERS FROM THE STATE WILL BE RECONSTRUCTED, all this, alas, will be repeated as in a nightmare ...
        1. +11
          19 January 2018 10: 35
          Quote: Now we are free
          Security will not help ... Hello to the destroyed institutions: October, pioneers, Komsomol members ... As they say, devastation is not in closets, devastation is in the heads. If you do not care about youth (from the state) without raising and not following it, then youth will not make you wait with an answer.

          That's right. Now psychologists, human rights activists, children's ombudsmen, an inspector for the prevention of child crime, firefighters, prosecutors (who forgot?) Will work with the “boy” and will come to the conclusion that the director of the school and the janitor Petrovich are to blame for what happened.
          1. +3
            19 January 2018 11: 25
            class teacher forgot.
            1. +1
              20 January 2018 02: 09
              Quote: Bort Radist
              class teacher forgot.

              And this is the main enemy! And the defendant for everything in the world. Even when he is on vacation - he is still responsible for the children!
          2. +1
            19 January 2018 12: 43
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            (who forgot?)

            tax laughing
        2. +1
          19 January 2018 10: 38
          Quote: Now we are free
          Security will not help ... Hello to the destroyed institutions: October, pioneers, Komsomol members ... As they say, devastation is not in closets, devastation is in the heads. If you do not care about youth (from the state) without raising and not following it, then youth will not make you wait with an answer.

          Voooot .... that's right ...
        3. +1
          20 January 2018 02: 03
          Quote: Now we are free
          UNTIL THE INSTITUTIONS FOR WORKING WITH CHILDREN / TEENAGERS FROM THE STATE WILL BE RECONSTRUCTED, all this, alas, will be repeated as in a nightmare ..

          this is one side of the coin. And the second is to return to the teacher the title of Teacher, and not the staff who "provide educational services"! Previously, the teacher and children were the owners of the school, but now it’s like an office for them .. came, rendered / received “educational services” and that’s all, home. Wash the class - "children do not come to school for this", put in the corner - "violation of the rights of the child", put a deuce - "enemy of the people"!
          I remember, back in the eighties, Misha Zinin helped me clean the cabinet, washed the door and said, “I remember every crack on this door!” ... is it funny? But I don’t - he said it with such warmth as about something native. Of course, this will never happen again, but the attitude to school, as to a HOUSE in which good, friends, knowledge - without this, nothing will come of it. And no metal detectors will save here! And no police will help here. It is necessary to change the concept of attitude towards school.
    2. +23
      19 January 2018 07: 17
      Quote: Spartanez300
      you need to be afraid of sending your child to school.

      You need to be afraid to go out! Everything happens with the connivance of the police. Moreover, the police, like the cops, are more afraid than they love and respect! The precinct still does not know their areas. No one is watching potentially dangerous psychos. In general, no one is watching!
      1. +20
        19 January 2018 07: 21
        Quote: Crowe
        Everything happens with the connivance of the police

        I see the police on the streets of the city only when the king is pleased to appear. Then even entire majors are at the crossroads (by the way, too, not from a good life. They were castrated by the very same castes)
        1. +14
          19 January 2018 07: 44
          It is not clear where the protection of school facilities

          And who canceled parenting, eh? Or did everyone put a bolt on it? And in the USSR, when there were murders and maniacs, who was to blame for this? Personally Khrushchev and Brezhnev? You have to start with yourself, and not wait for the president to do everything for you, otherwise you’ll spend your whole life in a swamp. And by the way, in Soviet times, there was no protection in schools. And such facts did not occur with the students. The question is where were the parents of this scumbag and whether they were engaged in education.
          1. +10
            19 January 2018 07: 47
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            In Soviet times, there was no protection in schools

            Already wrote in the topic about Perm.
            In Soviet times, Uncle Styopa stood at every intersection, and his colleagues in the cinemas walked and caught truants. The director of the teacher turned the parents around as they wanted, and just a little - to the school through a letter to work. There were so many mechanisms of influence, so many have never dreamed of and everything worked.
            Now, under Putin, only one law works - the law of meanness.
            Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
            And in the USSR, when there were murders and maniacs, who was to blame for this? Personally Khrushchev and Brezhnev?
            And how many cases of attacks of children in schools were in the USSR? Or how many children of maniacs do you know?
            Maniacs rapists and stuff didn’t go anywhere. To them scumbags in schools were added, with knives axes and hammers. What's the difference
            1. +5
              19 January 2018 07: 57
              Quote: insular
              And how many cases of attacks of children in schools were in the USSR? Or how many children of maniacs do you know?

              In Kazan, under the USSR, there was a blunder, if that. A gang of scumbags.

              1. +2
                19 January 2018 08: 01
                Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
                In Kazan, under the USSR, there was a tyap, if that

                Stop listing modern ...
                But again, this is a little different - not at all schoolchildren.
            2. +11
              19 January 2018 09: 02
              Quote: insular
              Now, under Putin, only one law works - the law of meanness.

              Of course, Putin is to blame for everything. One for 180 million. Everything that happens in Russia is not with Putin, but with the liberal-democratic structure of society. If Putin begins to tighten the screws (it's high time), such a high will rise that mom does not grieve. And those who now accuse Putin of inaction will be the first to shout.
              1. +5
                19 January 2018 09: 56
                Quote: Orionvit
                Of course, Putin is to blame for everything

                And who is the guarantor of the constitution ?! belay wassat He sat down in an armchair - there was nothing to blame for the boyars, or change or go off, if the hat wasn’t too big.
                The laws in the country do not work - this is the personal misfortune of the president ....
                1. +5
                  19 January 2018 10: 18
                  Quote: insular
                  He sat down in an armchair - there was nothing to blame for the boyars, or change or go off, if the cap wasn’t enough
                  Remind you what the rulers ended when they began to very briskly chop the heads of the boyars. I’m lying on my couch, I have long resolved all the problems of the state system. Not only that, all the problems of the universe, because it is so simple. laughing
                  1. +1
                    19 January 2018 11: 08
                    Quote: Orionvit
                    Quote: insular
                    He sat down in an armchair - there was nothing to blame for the boyars, or change or go off, if the cap wasn’t enough
                    Remind you what the rulers ended when they began to very briskly chop the heads of the boyars. I’m lying on my couch, I have long resolved all the problems of the state system. Not only that, all the problems of the universe, because it is so simple. laughing

                    So let him move once tired, move? No, not move! So it’s not a matter of complexity! but what then? The matter lies in the power and the opportunities that it gives. It is possible to divide these opportunities into a narrow circle. And, it’s possible for everyone that’s the whole secret!
                    1. +3
                      19 January 2018 13: 26
                      Quote: free
                      and then what? The matter lies in the power and opportunities that it gives

                      What does she give Putin? Foreign accounts? Villas? Billions of dollars, where do those who print them know about every dollar in the world? Power? You yourself here dissolve tears that he can’t do anything. In short, comrade Sharikov, go to rest. To the garden.
                      1. 0
                        20 January 2018 00: 23
                        Quote: Orionvit
                        Quote: free
                        and then what? The matter lies in the power and opportunities that it gives

                        What does she give Putin? Foreign accounts? Villas? Billions of dollars, where do those who print them know about every dollar in the world? Power? You yourself here dissolve tears that he can’t do anything. In short, comrade Sharikov, go to rest. To the garden.

                        It is possible that the accounts and villas, I am not in the know. And you are probably firmly convinced that the gdp like Stalin only has a jacket and boots, right?
                2. +4
                  19 January 2018 10: 27
                  And who is the guarantor of the constitution ?!   I sat down in an armchair - there was nothing to blame for the boyars or change or go off, since the hat wasn’t enough.
                  The laws in the country do not work - this is the personal misfortune of the president ....


                  Are you an adult to write this nonsense in such a topic?

                  Can you still start campaigning for Pasha? Will Pasha bring order?

                3. +1
                  19 January 2018 10: 54
                  Quote: insular
                  The laws in the country do not work - this is the personal misfortune of the president ....

                  and everyone else will sit and wait when they earn?
        2. +2
          19 January 2018 08: 00
          Yes, of course! And the nuts? How the hell out of the snuff-box .... But this is business ... And what kind of money can be on fools?
          Quote: insular
          Quote: Crowe
          Everything happens with the connivance of the police

          I see the police on the streets of the city only when the king is pleased to appear. Then even entire majors are at the crossroads (by the way, too, not from a good life. They were castrated by the very same castes)
          1. +2
            19 January 2018 08: 03
            Quote: 210ox
            Yes of course! And gayts?

            I don’t know about you, but on Sakhalin there are only cameras and letters of happiness - gayts are only on order (call i.e.). Well, once a year, an indicative flogging (i.e. some sort of planned operation). Here you have all the gay ... Anarchy.
        3. +2
          19 January 2018 09: 17
          I see the police on the streets of the city only when the king is pleased to appear. Then even entire majors are at the crossroads (by the way, too, not from a good life. They were castrated by the very same castes)

          After the last visit to the police department, and when patrolling when they go out on holidays, the impression is created that there are more girls in the department than men.
      2. +2
        19 January 2018 07: 36
        Soon, and on holidays you will not see the police, they will cut everyone down. They will replace everything with cameras !!!!
      3. +9
        19 January 2018 08: 03
        You need to kill such people to death right away! Chairs in the classroom, desks, any items ...
        This is what I’ll be teaching my from this day.
        “Thank you” to the regime ruling with the country for creating the conditions and atmosphere for such incidents, for the lack of systematic upbringing and education, the lack of ideology, the atmosphere of impunity and permissiveness, for idle chatter ...
        Train your own to destroy such d ..... c. Everyone has the right to self-defense of themselves and loved ones. There is NO hope for "state" and "power". They will fall off again.
        1. +3
          19 January 2018 10: 57
          Quote: Pax tecum
          This is what I’ll be teaching my from this day.

          the child is at home much longer than at school
          “Thank you” to the regime ruling with the country for creating the conditions and atmosphere for such incidents, for the lack of systematic upbringing and education, the lack of ideology,
          so do this in the family. the school’s business is to educate but not ideology
      4. +8
        19 January 2018 08: 07
        The precinct still does not know their areas. No one is watching potentially dangerous psychos.

        I certainly do not justify them, but for objectivity, after reforms and optimizations, we have SIX district police officers in an area of ​​2 km². Who can they follow?
      5. +5
        19 January 2018 11: 08
        Quote: Crowe
        Everything happens with the connivance of the police

        Everything happens with the prohibition of the prosecutor's office and the UK to act hard on the police. They took all sorts of restrictions from the filing of human rights defenders-liberals (such as on their children to touch Nizya-II), now they themselves are reaping the benefits.
        Quote: Crowe
        Nobody watches potentially dangerous psychos

        It is impossible! Human rights, however. am Without his consent, you’ll isolate the horseradish in a psychiatric hospital. And he will be dissenting.
        Quote: Crowe
        In general, no one is watching!

        No one. Nurgaliyev’s reform did its job — they reduced it on the ground — increased it in high offices. You can write an angry letter to Medvedev.
        1. +2
          19 January 2018 11: 35
          +100500 the site is military, police problems are not accepted here. winked
      6. +4
        19 January 2018 11: 29
        Moreover, the police, like the cops, are more afraid than they love and respect!

        Police Do not be afraid, do not love, do not respect! You can calmly spit in the face of a police officer and become a national hero! You will not be punished for this.
        The precinct still does not know their areas

        Do not talk nonsense on the site !!! After all, they read the former precinct! hi Well, if you (or yourself) are a negligent precinct, then I am truly sorry for you!
    3. dSK
      +5
      19 January 2018 07: 20
      The results of a "godless" life. The attack of the "obsessed" against Russia continues.
      Jesus Christ: "I am with you and no one at you."
      God save and have mercy on the God-protected country of Russia, its authorities and armies! hi
      1. +5
        19 January 2018 11: 39
        Quote from dsk
        The results of a "godless" life.

        Come on, you obscurantism ... In the "godless" USSR something was not observed in such topics. And what do you say if it turns out that the parents of this organism are like believers and regularly attend church (mosque, synagogue)? Faith does not matter here.
        1. +2
          19 January 2018 11: 54
          Quote: Paranoid50
          And what do you say if it turns out that the parents of this organism are like believers and regularly attend church (mosque, synagogue)?

          In believing parents, children are brought up according to other "patterns", and do not engage in such "feats". Of course, there are exceptions, but namely, exceptions, and for non-believers this is the norm.
    4. +5
      19 January 2018 07: 26
      Quote: Spartanez300
      It is not clear where the protection of school facilities

      you can’t put to each guard, or put a guard in each class?
      1. +2
        19 January 2018 07: 56
        It is not necessary to each or to the class, at the checkpoint security and metal detector by itself and check the backpacks
        1. +6
          19 January 2018 08: 02
          Quote: Alexander War
          It is not necessary to each or to the class, at the checkpoint security and metal detector by itself and check the backpacks

          In this case, the psycho will not throw a bottle of gasoline into the classroom, but in the queue near the metal detector. True, in this case, the headmaster will be somehow innocent.
          In addition, the security guard will have to personally inspect each student - since they all have their apartment keys and mobile phones with them. By volume of metal - like an average knife.
          By the way, nobody canceled ceramic knives (which no metal detector sees). They are quite a penny.
        2. +5
          19 January 2018 09: 08
          Quote: Alexander War
          It is not necessary to each or to the class, at the checkpoint security and metal detector by itself and check the backpacks

          There is such a thing as crime prevention, and under the Union they worked closely on this. All the “difficult” teenagers were registered. Crimes must be prevented even at the stage of the emergence of a criminal intent. To begin with, at least to establish monitoring of social networks, where all these scumbags do not hide anything. And not retrospectively lament that someone on his page has long shown that he was ripe for a crime. On the other hand, many parents dumped everything at school, and the school has long been completely excluded from the education process. As the former minister said there, "We should not educate a person but a competent consumer." So they brought up, and there is nothing to be surprised now.
          1. +2
            19 January 2018 11: 00
            Quote: Orionvit
            To begin with, at least to establish monitoring of social networks, where all these scumbags do not hide anything.

            belay each teenager has a curator? do you even understand that this is technically impossible? After all, terrorists must be monitored and many more. Isn’t it easier for parents to watch what their son does on the network? it will be much cheaper
        3. +2
          19 January 2018 09: 25
          Quote: Alexander War
          It is not necessary to each or to the class, at the checkpoint security and metal detector by itself and check the backpacks

          The guard can only ask for the visitor to show the contents of the bag, the child is not allowed.
      2. +6
        19 January 2018 08: 12
        Teach kids how to counteract! To the group. In order to physically destroy ... the "threat".
        In Soviet times, there were many cases when schoolchildren and criminals were detained. Now, have you stopped raising fighters?
        And, the killers and the deb..you know that they won’t be allowed to go to the back of their head, and that’s why they swagger.
        Here is "gratitude" to the authorities since 1997, who changed the Criminal Code and the Criminal Procedure Code, and the tolerant and sugary "human rights" with their inspirers.
        1. +2
          19 January 2018 08: 52
          Quote: Pax tecum
          Now, have you stopped raising fighters?

          who will bring up the computer? Yes, they’d better sit all day at the computer than go to the gym for an hour
        2. +1
          19 January 2018 11: 47
          Quote: Pax tecum
          Teach kids how to counteract! To the group.

          And now in the country everyone is for himself. Man, man is a wolf. And this is not my opinion, I constantly hear about the division of society into hunters and victims.
    5. +8
      19 January 2018 07: 36
      Quote: Spartanez300
      It is not clear where the protection of school facilities

      Such garbage can happen when guarding, the article says that the ninth grader attacked, and most likely from the same school. Now, what should all the "elders" be suspected of and not allowed to go to school? It is difficult to determine the inadequacy in the mass of other students .... Protection at school helps the dead as a poultice, it is necessary to change the people's worldview and parenting system, and not turn the schools into a kind of strategic objects with metal detectors and checkpoints at the entrance.
      1. +1
        19 January 2018 07: 51
        Quote: EwgenyZ
        It is difficult to determine the inadequacy in the mass of other students ....

        It’s very difficult, especially if he has an ax in one hand and a bottle with gasoline in the other.
        1. +2
          19 January 2018 08: 01
          In the capital of the Urals, police recently held a meeting for directors of Yekaterinburg schools on the topic of AUE. About this "URA.RU" said one of the participants in the meeting. Both security officials and educators are concerned about the situation in schools, into which the ideology of “Arrested Urkagan Unity” is penetrating more and more deeply.

          “This AUE is now in many schools, the worst thing is that it starts to“ blaze ”even in good schools,” said one of the discussion participants on condition of anonymity. - In one of the gymnasiums in the center of Yekaterinburg, the children in the courtyard were put on their knees. The guard ran out, dispersed everyone, the school then wrote a statement "
          “The prisoners in the colonies today purposefully carry out such work - they select children from dysfunctional families and give them rights - they say:“ You will be watching over such and such a district, at such and such a school, your task is to collect money and give it to us, ”he said “URA.RU” member of the public council at the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Yekaterinburg Konstantin Sergeyev, head of the “Union of Heads of Security Services of the Urals”
          1. +4
            19 January 2018 08: 45
            And, earlier, under the well-known leaders of the country, in a single large city in three days, they could cause lime crime.
            There would be a will.
            The society has completely forgotten how to cleanse itself. And, the state very zealously protects its monopoly on violence.
            And, it is interesting that the current balabol from the government will issue in their speeches?
        2. +4
          19 January 2018 08: 25
          Quote: tchoni
          Quote: EwgenyZ
          It is difficult to determine the inadequacy in the mass of other students ....

          It’s very difficult, especially if he has an ax in one hand and a bottle with gasoline in the other.

          And an ax and a bottle calmly fit in a backpack, if that. Do you offer to inspect every high school student?
        3. +3
          19 January 2018 08: 50
          Quote: tchoni
          It’s very difficult, especially if he has an ax in one hand and a bottle with gasoline in the other.

          yeah. and on the chest is a poster, "I am going to kill teachers and students." so with all this arsenal and walked around the city
      2. +1
        19 January 2018 11: 03
        Quote: EwgenyZ
        Such garbage can happen when guarding, the article says that the ninth grader attacked, and most likely from the same school

        not alone
        According to preliminary information from the press service of the Government of Buryatia, at about 9.35 (04:35 Moscow time), three young people entered school No. 5.
        “At school, they put on masks and threw a Molotov cocktail into the study of Russian language and literature, where a lesson was held by 7th grade students. A fire has occurred in the office. When the students and the teacher ran out of the office, the attackers met them at the exit and inflicted bodily harm.

        everything was thought out
        1. +4
          19 January 2018 12: 01
          Quote: LSA57
          “At school, they put on masks and threw a Molotov cocktail into the study of Russian language and literature, where a lesson was held by 7th grade students.

          Since without masks they calmly passed, it means they were "local", and they were familiar to the "guards". It’s all the more stupid to blame security. Who knows what's on the mind of a moron? Today He is going to study, and tomorrow he will come with an ax and a lighter. You can’t figure it out.
    6. +1
      19 January 2018 08: 31
      It is not clear where the protection of school institutions was, there was little chance in Perm, it didn’t teach anything. What a mess, after all, now you need to be afraid to send your child to school.

      Yes, what kind of security is there at best, a guard who is a grandmother of God’s dandelion, out of 5 schools in our country only 1 has security and that railway lyceum.
      In general, I think the news is to blame for the news as two frostbitten ones, the students were attacked and the consequences did anyone think, the roof went off the other.
    7. +1
      19 January 2018 08: 48
      Quote: Spartanez300
      It’s not clear where the protection of schools is,

      security can not know in the face of all students
      Local information sources report that the ninth grader of one of the schools

      security could well take him for a student of this school
      1. +1
        19 January 2018 10: 00
        Quote: LSA57
        security can not know in the face of all students

        You won’t believe it, but our guard knows everyone in person, about half by name, even parents who constantly go to school. He doesn’t know in the face of parents who ask "how to get to 8a grade." True, he has been working at school for 6 years and to help him “spinner” with info on the monitor who passed. Students tried to pass under someone else's card - calculates at a time. But even he won’t do anything if the scumbag decides to do something. He has no rights, only a button to the police and a call to the administration. Should prevent full-time psychologists, class teachers, social protection specialists.
        1. +1
          19 January 2018 11: 06
          Quote: kirgiz58
          True, he has been working at school for 6 years.

          Do you know what staff turnover is in private security companies? and if the school is large, then for 3-4 years and a tenth you will not remember
        2. 0
          19 January 2018 12: 50
          Quote: kirgiz58
          our guard knows everyone in person, about half by name, even parents who constantly go to school. Doesn’t know in the face of parents who ask “how to get to 8a grade”

          My school was exactly the same. The security guard (grandfather of about 70, a very good man) knew everyone in person, by name - for sure, almost all high school students (I won’t say anything about the middle classes).
          Quote: kirgiz58
          True, he has been working at school for 6 years and to help him “spinner” with info on the monitor who passed. Students tried to pass under someone else's card - calculates at a time.

          Uh ... Excuse me, which school do you describe? Not Moscow, by chance? In the regions, "turntables" are not that rare - they do not exist! At least in two Cheboksary schools: Gymnasium No. 1 and Lyceum No. 3 (one of the best in Chuvashia, Lyceum was (maybe even now) one of the 100 best schools in Russia), where I visit every year, there are no turntables from the word , passes, respectively, too, and metal detectors are absent in principle. Well, now, probably, they will appear, since such a booze has gone ... By the way, regarding the pass cards. Whoever wants it will pass, it’s not a question at all. There are so many places where I’ve gotten (though in institutions, not schools).
          Quote: kirgiz58
          Full-time psychologists, class teachers, social protection specialists should prevent it.

          And what else do class teachers SHOULD have? An entire class hangs on them (on average - 25 people of varying degrees of lousiness), they need to carry on all the paper work in the class (and this is a fig - I know it myself, because the classroom often asked me to help), in addition to that, they are also an object lead (or even not one), and this also takes up a lot of time, even without paperwork again. Total: class teachers are loaded at the top with a slide.

          Parents are also busy: in order to earn money enough for life and to pay for the education of even one child in an average family, both parents have to work, and without getting out of work. At home, things are also: mothers - prepare food / wash / tidy up clothes / ..., father - fix it / fix it / earn some money because there is not enough money / ... And people also need to rest. Parents, therefore, are also busy, they are also not up to the child (many, but not everyone, that at least somehow pleases).

          Psychologists. And what one psychologist will do with 8-9 hundreds of children, of which up to 2-3 hundreds (high school students) still need to be managed, because the age is such that all crap is in the heads. Well, even a psychologist a notch: junior, middle, high school. Anyway - not enough.

          Social Protection Specialists. And what kind of animals are they? I have never seen them. But I know wonderful specialists: there were such institutions: children's rooms of the police. Good thing, I will say! Shkodnik children were sobering well; some of my acquaintances were kept in check only by threats to get into the lists of the children's room of the police.
    8. +2
      19 January 2018 11: 03
      in total, as it became known at the moment, four victims. In particular, the teacher was diagnosed with a head injury, three schoolchildren received stab wounds.

  2. 0
    19 January 2018 07: 12
    Quote: Spartanez300
    It is not clear where the protection of school institutions is, there was little case in Perm that did not teach anything. What a mess, after all, now you need to be afraid to send your child to school.

    Yeah. Molotov, an ax. What's next?
    1. +4
      19 January 2018 07: 16
      God forbid that the trunks will go on course, we must really solve this issue and right now, there are enough scumbags everywhere. On the face of complete inaction of the authorities.
    2. +5
      19 January 2018 07: 17
      Quote: olhon
      What's next?

      And then these children will grow up and will bring up a new generation of children ...
    3. 0
      19 January 2018 10: 04
      Quote: olhon
      Yeah. Molotov, an ax. What's next?

      The joke is certainly out of place, but it can immediately be identified by anti-tankers and improve skills in throwing grenades in secret organizations isolated from society, and after completing a course in places similar to Syria, apply their skills to the benefit of mankind.
  3. +15
    19 January 2018 07: 12
    Generation - Internet.
    I don’t know what is happening to them now. Stay alert. Just a tip.
    At the age of 12-15 I was looking for branches suitable for a slingshot, something to shoot around on the banks, and there wasn’t such a mess in my head. And I wasn’t close! Trekking, crossing the ropes, a bonfire in the evening, and the next day another ten kilometers to the mountains. That's what children should do!
    1. +7
      19 January 2018 07: 16
      A generation of underdeveloped! Have seen enough, heard enough and also took up knives!
      1. +5
        19 January 2018 07: 36
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        A generation of underdeveloped! Have seen enough, heard enough and also took up knives!

        I never thought what I would say, but I start to miss the orders and customs of the 90s.
        Then such chaos were trampled down in schools somewhere in the toilet, right in the bud, not letting their heads rise. The street brought up rigidly, in a gangster way, but on the whole correctly, with respect to the family and condemning the lawlessness ... Now ...
        1. +2
          19 January 2018 07: 52
          Maybe it wasn’t right everywhere, but on the whole I agree - such a moron after that would leave school only in an ambulance.
          1. +6
            19 January 2018 08: 23
            That's just lawlessness originated in the 90s. First, the concepts were revised, then thieves from rapists appeared. Now, rat-rats from lowered oneself by people felt. Well, the Internet must be wool, track, analyze, prevent. In the end, I see no reason to single out a separate article for incitement to crimes of any nature through any media, including the Internet, with the division of responsibility without consequences and with consequences, to life. But even for trying to provoke something - to plant.
        2. 0
          19 January 2018 12: 54
          Quote: insular
          I never thought what I would say, but I start to miss the orders and customs of the 90s.

          By the way, yes. The street, in addition to everything bad, still not only weed out the shit-sociopaths, but also taught to follow the words. And it’s effective. And today's adolescents in general in "these our Internet" are cut off from impunity.
    2. +4
      19 January 2018 07: 28
      Quote: DEZINTO
      I don’t know what is happening to them now.

      degradation is what happens. from TV, from the Internet, streams pour. "educator" from the West is more successful than our authorities.
    3. +2
      19 January 2018 07: 46
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Generation - Internet.
      I don’t know what is happening to them now.

      The guy decided to earn a bunch of likes, he had seen enough of his fellow-thinkers from the Perm school (they are alive and the whole country thinks about them, they became celebrities!) So he decided to hit the jackpot too.
      1. +1
        19 January 2018 11: 08
        Quote: EwgenyZ
        had seen enough of the fellow minds from the Perm school

        and he saw enough about the shooting at an American school last year
        1. +1
          19 January 2018 12: 03
          Quote: LSA57
          and he saw enough about the shooting at an American school last year

          Well, yes. Notoriety does not give peace.
          1. +2
            19 January 2018 12: 49
            Quote: EwgenyZ
            Well, yes. Notoriety does not give peace.

            already wrote above, the typical "Herostratus Complex"
      2. +2
        19 January 2018 11: 46
        It is probable that if Perm thugs were torn to pieces on the spot in the same place or those who took them would be people with concepts of justice and released the whole b / c on their finished organisms, with the obligatory demonstration of their elimination in all the media, then it could there will be no subsequent attempted murder of CHILDREN. It is a miracle that no one has died.
        It is high time for the authorities to sue the authorities and demand their punishment for the conditions for the degradation of the country's population, for the victims. Claims signed by thousands of people.
        Impunity, as the basis of permissiveness, allows degenerates who commit such crimes and authorities of all levels to get rid of retaliation.
        The bureaucrats, deputies, generals and others will now begin to confer, showing concern. Everything!
        It is unlikely that any of the authorities will show real tough measures required by the population, for they are not capable. Not that breed.
  4. +8
    19 January 2018 07: 19
    One hundred years ago, spears were broken on this subject, that only age towards the Soviet system of education and upbringing of the population gives the country guarantees of development — both spiritual, scientific, and eco-economic! And the modern system, borrowed from the West, does not carry anything good in itself! Similar cases in our country will become, as in the USA, over time, commonplace! !!
    1. +1
      19 January 2018 07: 38
      That's absolutely true you say ...... and this is a nightmare of course .... recourse
  5. +2
    19 January 2018 07: 20
    Raised DB Parents thump, children of the Archipelagoggggyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyouyuyuyu gagliy study, and then the chiefs express deep concern.
    1. +9
      19 January 2018 07: 31
      Parents plow to feed, to dress, and the telephone should not be worse for children than for classmates, but they will think about them.
      1. +2
        19 January 2018 07: 44
        The phone is needed so that the child does not interfere with Dom2 watching and drinking beer on the couch. A phone with cartoons is shoved from diapers if only it would not cry
        1. +4
          19 January 2018 08: 03
          Quote: insular
          The phone is needed so that the child does not interfere with Dom2 watching and drinking beer on the couch. A phone with cartoons is shoved from diapers if only it would not cry

          We don’t need here about how you live in a family.
          For example, I personally know two women who, after working at the factory, go to work as cleaners in stores. One has 2 children, the other 3 live in a hostel.
          1. +1
            19 January 2018 08: 11
            Quote: frezer
            We don’t need here about how you live in a family.

            Come on, you won't be rude, huh?
            Quote: frezer
            I, for example, personally

            In general, everything is exactly what you are there personally.
            The Internet is littered with problems such as how to wean a young child from a phone without tantrums, etc.
            Quote: frezer
            One has 2 children, the other 3 live in a hostel.
            And which one of whom did he kill? Nobody? Then come on here "perfect" cases do not tell. Fantazer "he personally."
            The whole country is straight plowmen and cleaners at the factories ... Nightly, by all means and surely so that the child can buy an iPhone, so that it is not worse.
            1. +1
              19 January 2018 13: 00
              you began to be rude and pass on to personalities! The whole country is plowmen and cleaners at the factories ..- but what does the whole country do to watch and drink beer on the couch? Well then YOU have nothing to be offended. And let's not poke and be rude! ! I don’t know how YOU have, our average salary in the city is 2-10tyrs. A family of 15 people can’t live on 4-20 thousand (anyway, you’ll leave a minus-credit card or just a loan) many begin to shabbat. And when late in the evening on wild fatigue, people return home, not everyone can overpower themselves for communication with the child, but prefer to pay off. So, not only the parents are to blame.
        2. +6
          19 January 2018 11: 14
          Quote: insular
          A phone with cartoons is shoved from diapers if only it would not cry

          my good friend bought the granddaughter of FIVE years a laptop for 70000 rubles !!!!! I ask why so expensive? says nothing for the beloved granddaughter. after 2 months, he asked me to see it, it broke.
          came, looked. Klava is flooded with yogurt, compote and even the devil knows what. the keys are covered with crumbs, half are not pressed at all, clogged. that's what ostentatious prestige means
      2. 0
        20 January 2018 00: 02
        The parent of the main one is Major Airborne, and Sosnovy Bor is a military town, where they mainly live in military units and state enterprises.
        1. 0
          20 January 2018 00: 16
          SIMPLY FOOD !!!!
  6. +3
    19 January 2018 07: 29
    Here you come a child from school to pick up on your watch the whole brain will be taken to where, to whom is the second shoe. And as an emergency there is no protection.
    1. 0
      19 January 2018 09: 08
      Three men came to their native school with flowers according to the "paltos" years, to congratulate the class teacher on his birthday, they let the horseradish without a passport.
      1. +1
        19 January 2018 10: 11
        Quote: Sasha_Sar
        horseradish allowed without a passport.

        And if they let me in, tomorrow a new security guard, who will even ask the teachers for a passport, since he knows no one.
    2. 0
      19 January 2018 12: 06
      Never in my life have any of my parents taken me from school. And there was no protection. They themselves were on duty on each floor, with a technical commander and a rag. Once survived, huh?
  7. +3
    19 January 2018 07: 35
    It looks like a "network promotion." "Blue whales" a little restrained, now the massacre in schools "in trend"? Does anyone monitor networks for such "communities"?
    1. 0
      19 January 2018 07: 48
      It looks like a "network promotion." "Blue whales" Torn from the tongue
  8. 0
    19 January 2018 07: 37
    Already the second case am Starving resigned
    1. +3
      19 January 2018 07: 40
      Quote: Alexander War
      Already the second case am Starving resigned

      It's not about Golodets, the system. then the government needs to be changed.
      1. +2
        19 January 2018 07: 47
        Need to change!
      2. +6
        19 January 2018 07: 51
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Quote: Alexander War
        Already the second case am Starving resigned

        It's not about Golodets, the system. then the government needs to be changed.

        Together with the president ...
        1. +1
          19 January 2018 08: 22
          According to these, the trial of them is not shown on TV, about explosives about coordinators in general silence!
  9. 0
    19 January 2018 07: 46
    You don’t have to take attackers alive, these creatures are not people.
  10. +1
    19 January 2018 07: 58
    After the tragedy at the Perm school, a similar incident occurred in one of the educational institutions of the Republic of Buryatia.

    All these are the fruits of Western propaganda and shit democracy.
  11. +6
    19 January 2018 07: 59
    We all went to school ... and we all remember ... there were in any class who simply terrorized the weak ... What they were experiencing at the same time was of no interest to anyone ... neither classmates, nor teachers ... Probably the reason lies and in this phenomenon ... Some fool from impunity, others from hopelessness ...
  12. +2
    19 January 2018 08: 02
    Our news is a guide for freaks who have not decided what muck to do and here's a tip! On all channels 50 times!
  13. 0
    19 January 2018 08: 05
    Quote: zadorin1974
    Parents plow to feed, to dress, and the telephone should not be worse for children than for classmates, but they will think about them.

    I’m working as a doctor, after 3 o’clock in the afternoon 90% are drunk.
  14. 0
    19 January 2018 08: 09
    maybe less need to write about it?
  15. +4
    19 January 2018 08: 15
    And let’s show even more such people on TV, make of them “heroes”, invite them to talk shows, gather deputies in the studio. You look and new wishing to get into the heroes appear. Sessions from the courtroom, and gloomy weekdays from the zone, that’s what you need to show about them. And the security? Yes, a high school student will freely enter his school and in a school bag, he will drag a knife and a bottle of fuel.
  16. 0
    19 January 2018 08: 32
    The school system is slipping. You can’t keep rogue people without attention and cannot be encouraged by inaction, bullies. Now, while all the accumulated negativity among schoolchildren, it will not splash out, no matter what, it will continue ..
  17. +2
    19 January 2018 08: 51
    Urgently need to ban tyrnet and computer games! And the axes! And glass bottles!
    Yes, and schoolchildren, just in case!
  18. +2
    19 January 2018 09: 00
    The state was reformed ... I think that this is only the beginning. And if they also start to sell weapons freely, there will be reports from the front
  19. 0
    19 January 2018 09: 02
    Interesting in Mr. Bastrykin A.I. there will be enough deputies on especially important matters for such cases. And the Minister of Education, Ms. Vasilieva O., “kicks off” her feet “don't pamper yourself”, flying around the country “cleaning up the successes” of her predecessors.
  20. 0
    19 January 2018 09: 06
    As I wrote: it will only get worse! And soon the elections.
    1. 9PA
      0
      19 January 2018 09: 11
      The school is located in the military town of Sosnovy Bor. Airborne, DShB, special forces.
      1. 0
        19 January 2018 17: 14
        This is even worse!
      2. 0
        20 January 2018 00: 10
        Yes sir! I have been there more than once, there are also VKS, motorized rifles. My wife’s brother works there.
  21. +1
    19 January 2018 09: 10
    Guards, teachers ......... auuuuu PARENTS blinked, this is extreme radicalism with an ax to school, this has reasons and behavioral signs, PARENTS where you were !!!
  22. +4
    19 January 2018 09: 29
    At school, there is no leverage for students. From juvenile justice to the end, they did not fight back. Pupils at school do what they want. If at that moment there was a man in the classroom and gave a dork to this dime, then I am sure at 100% percent that the man would have been condemned.
    And we have such a system everywhere. Recently we showed how the ex-husband threatened to kill his wife. She turned to the police, and she was told that while there is no corpse, there’s no business. As a result, he killed her, opened a case, but what's the point?
    In general, hit the tail. As in foreign policy there is no planning, we only answer to the "partners". So it is in domestic politics. Perhaps the main principle of the work of our leaders is characterized by popular wisdom: "Until the thunder strikes, the man does not cross himself."
  23. +9
    19 January 2018 09: 37
    It’s not a matter of protection, the fact is that some of the youngsters are watching our finished TV hard and chatting in networks, and there on every channel of the program about freaks, Starting from home -2 to let them talk. in each program, suffering and prostitutes are sucked. And then it is also discussed in networks. As a result, some of the youngsters have the impression that in order to get out not TV, so that they talk about you, you need to become a freak. And after all, they become, and imitate the already established freak. After all, the media is circulating that the young prostitute Shurygina is now a well-known blogger, and her "rapist" who went out of jail is a direct star on all channels. cadets in suits of fagots - links of one chain. Everyone knows that nothing will happen to them. The rapist came out a couple of years later, the PMDOR cadets are not expelled and will become fagot pilots and still have a bunch of followers. So until they stop making media stars out of freaks, until the news about such incidents is punished with real terms and deductions, until they stop sucking on TV is the life of freaks, you can safely predict the appearance of the following even more cruel freaks.
  24. +7
    19 January 2018 09: 59
    Capitalism is a consumer society; it needs consumers and educates them from childhood. And the consumer is an egoist, that’s it. So hello everyone from the bright capitalist present! "Either there will be more." (C)
  25. +2
    19 January 2018 10: 01
    This is already some kind of system, Perm, yesterday a high school student tried to bring cartridges, flammable liquid and rope into one of Moscow schools, today Buryatia, as if there is some kind of group on the Internet, you must look for it to the special services urgently !!! PS The wife is a teacher, it’s true that she’s at a music school, but in the morning I convince her to take a gas spray and show how to use it - it’s clear that the protection is so-so, but at least something, the watchmen at their school or their grandmothers or the girl is “snotty” sitting ... ...
  26. +1
    19 January 2018 10: 04
    Quote: Black
    We have a lot of violence on TV. Cruelty is even cultivated. Watch movies, watch MATCH TV channel, for example. Every day there is so much fighting in mixed martial arts, where the rules simply cultivate cruelty. You can show them - probably yes, but only at a certain "not childish" time. In general, there is a whole range of problems in families, and in schools, and in society ....

    There is our saying - "why not steal, if there is no one to calm down."
    So here is just "no one to calm down." That is, according to our laws, practically nothing can be done with such a teenager at the school level.
    That is, it is possible of course, but immediately from all the tools, with the involvement of the relevant authorities and services. As a result, the future of such a young man is likely to be irretrievably corrupted, given how usually our civil servants are soullessly and murderously doing their job.
    If he is just cursing and smoking around the corner, and his mother is begging with burning tears, the school management does not give a legal course to the matter ... So they try to educate them on their own.
    Let me give you a brief example - a family that is quite prosperous by our provincial standards, but the boy is such a poorly managed one. Decided by law - custody, commission on minors.
    Result - the guardianship authorities decided that the living conditions of the children did not meet the standards, the mother was forced to spend about a year on all kinds of commissions, trying to prove that her child is not, not crazy, and that the other two children can stay in the family and not be brought up in a boarding school , living conditions in which I think there is no need to describe.
  27. +1
    19 January 2018 10: 44
    Quote: kirgiz58
    Quote: LSA57
    security can not know in the face of all students

    You won’t believe it, but our guard knows everyone in person, about half by name, even parents who constantly go to school. He doesn’t know in the face of parents who ask "how to get to 8a grade." True, he has been working at school for 6 years and to help him “spinner” with info on the monitor who passed. Students tried to pass under someone else's card - calculates at a time. But even he won’t do anything if the scumbag decides to do something. He has no rights, only a button to the police and a call to the administration. Should prevent full-time psychologists, class teachers, social protection specialists.

    I confirm that we have adequate men on guard, they all know their own and which of them is frostbitten, what's the point? Call button - yes, the guys arrive quickly 3-5 minutes, with weapons. What will they do when a classmate cut, set fire to. The guard says: "Give me at least a bat." Under current laws and permissiveness is a dead end. The last two incidents are somehow connected. In the social. nets need an abscess to look for.
    1. 9PA
      0
      19 January 2018 11: 05
      Commentary from Buryatia, grammar stylistics preserved: Parents of these students are most likely military. The military nowhere, and especially in Russia, are not distinguished by a special culture, humanity. Moreover, today Russia is waging two wars, and Sosnovy Bor in both of them are actively participating.
  28. +2
    19 January 2018 11: 10
    the result of the lack of ideology and education in the country, the degradation of the school. Here is the result of evaluating the work of a teacher at 14 thousand rubles. Security organizations in schools do nothing besides receiving attendants: remember the execution in a Moscow school, stabbing in Perm, now Buryatia. Characteristically, high school students come to kill in the lower grades. The debilitation of society is evident.
  29. 0
    19 January 2018 11: 12
    There is a strange temporal and characteristic Similarity .. WHOSE THERE ARE INTERESTING IN YOUR EARSING TO GRAKE!
    obviously someone is behind it .. it just doesn’t happen synchronous randomness!
  30. +2
    19 January 2018 11: 14
    Quote: Bredovich705
    On all channels 50 times!

    you look, which channel you don’t turn on there, or murder, or the police, or shooting or drugs. It creates a feeling of war
  31. 9PA
    0
    19 January 2018 11: 16
    Quote: Overlock
    Quote: Bredovich705
    On all channels 50 times!

    you look, which channel you don’t turn on there, or murder, or the police, or shooting or drugs. It creates a feeling of war

    Or Syria or Ukraine. Such braces.
  32. +2
    19 January 2018 11: 20
    Quote: Now we are free
    If you do not care about youth (from the state) without raising and not following it, then youth will not make you wait with an answer. Under the USSR, no matter how much he was cried out and crucified, it was the state that took upon itself the lion's share of raising (and somewhere providing) children, now this obligation has completely borne by parents and not everyone (alas) has time to raise their own children.

    teachers work for 14 thousand, parents are in search of money, the child grows by itself. The street and the box make up for both parenting and the formal approach of teachers. The state pretends to pay teachers salaries, teachers pretend that they work. The house of pioneers with circles was replaced by House-2. Reading books- computer wars. Why are you surprised?
  33. 0
    19 January 2018 11: 22
    So, what is next? Well, what will he do? They will understand and forgive. With such legislation, the lack of ideology and unbridled media, we will continue to read and record such messages. Stock up on popcorn and enjoy the reality show.
  34. 9PA
    +1
    19 January 2018 11: 29
    Quote: zyzx
    Raised DB Parents thump, children of the Archipelagoggggyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyouyuyuyu gagliy study, and then the chiefs express deep concern.

    Do not know, do not lie. This is a military town. VDV DShB Special Forces, before the rate was. Guess whose kids are you smart guy
  35. +2
    19 January 2018 11: 32
    We need to look from social networks, apparently again some kind of flash mob was invented for school thrones.
  36. 0
    19 January 2018 12: 42
    Some kind of epidemic of moronism among schoolchildren and graduates. How can you be so brainless. Maybe all the same in Singapore, right? recourse
  37. 0
    19 January 2018 13: 10
    Quote: Million
    The state was reformed ... I think that this is only the beginning. And if they also start to sell weapons freely, there will be reports from the front


    Like in the city on the hill. There is shooting at schools on a regular basis. Well, we kind of take an example from the light of capitalism.
  38. 0
    19 January 2018 13: 44
    A speedy recovery to all victims!
  39. 0
    19 January 2018 14: 06
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    It looks like a "network promotion." "Blue whales" a little restrained, now the massacre in schools "in trend"? Does anyone monitor networks for such "communities"?

    No wonder the FSB has recently been trying to nightmare Telegram.
  40. 0
    19 January 2018 15: 57
    Quote: faridg7
    Quote: insular
    Quote: 210ox
    You probably haven’t been to school for a long time. ChOPy, in our Kuban

    I have never been to school in the Kuban at all. So that's how it happened historically.
    In the Far East, private security companies both appeared in schools and disappeared. And as far as I know, in the whole country, security schools do not have.

    In general, there should be security at the school (this is a federal norm and funding comes from the federal budget) if you do not have security at the school — everything from the headmaster and above

    Financing comes at the expense of parents (we have 500 rubles per year), and from the higher ones there are only wishes for what should be protection.
  41. 0
    19 January 2018 16: 19
    One juvenile dibil looked on the box or on the Internet about another juvenile moron. I wanted to repeat it.
    Schools can be protected indefinitely, but why was protection required only in the mid-90s? And before it was not required? Maybe because we now have "children's rights" are respected and it is forbidden to set the brain together with uncontrolled Internet.
  42. 0
    19 January 2018 17: 11
    the first time is an accident. the second time - suspiciously !!!
  43. 0
    19 January 2018 18: 14
    raised ..

  44. +1
    19 January 2018 20: 17
    And I told you that it is not necessary to legalize weapons. In the articles here, "legalization of weapons." Imagine what would happen if the weapons were legalized-that would go into a school-a man three or five with weapons. -And here would be shot a whole class or several. Well, just about one or several things they’ve done. For anything, they couldn’t calmly bring weapons to school. Imagine what will happen, when suddenly, God forbid, weapons are legalized ??? Entire crowds of mishandled saboteurs, from school to bombard, kill entire classes, or kindergartens with children, then places of dense crowds.
    Legalize weapons-NOT NECESSARY!

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