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New anti-Russian fake: sports Siberia on doping

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New anti-Russian fake: sports Siberia on doping



Undoubtedly, not all of us today in sports are beautiful and joyful, rather, quite the contrary. Tosca and sadness prevail in many forms.

But it is difficult to keep silent when you meet sometimes derogatory performances of some authors from the sport, with anguish telling about how we all are terrible.

Against the backdrop of the Olympic political clashes and the demonstration of complete impotence by Russian sports officials, it is quite natural that there are those who are trying to kick Russian sports harder. From what motives - the third question is even, not the second.

Evgeny Slyusarenko (resource championat.com) at the suggestion of the “group of coaches and athletes” from “VKontakte” spat so well into the growing youth sports. And many of the media picked up the howl raised around such a landmark event as the championship of the Siberian Federal District in athletics indoors.

Headlines each other more beautiful. “Having learned about doping tests, sportsmen are massively withdrawn from competitions” and stuff like that.

Many will say: so what? Perhaps we will talk about regional or city competitions?

Talk, if will deserve it. But in our case it will be a question of the fact that the Siberians were accused of list use of doping and unwillingness to take samples.

Say, having learned that representatives of WADA will arrive at the competition, 36 athletes withdrew from the competition and fled. Someone hid behind a certificate of illness, someone just did not go to the start.

The names of the athletes were cited as confirmation. 36 people.

Well, and a general subtext: everyone cracks something, everyone is guilty. Because they escaped. Scandal, Zrada and all that.

Plus, those not listed, but those who showed the results are slightly lower than usual, were also recorded as drug addicts. Say, they deliberately screwed everything up so as not to fall under doping tests.

In short, all addicts.



Meanwhile, according to the organizers and coaches (real, and not from VKontakte), the picture is somewhat different.

And, by the way, more familiar to those who actually participated in the competition. Not on the sofa shortcuts keys.

WADA warned the organizers as it should be - for a month. By official notification of the President of the Federation of Athletics of the Irkutsk Region Denis Petushinsky. FLA of the Irkutsk region is obliged to provide the address where the competition will take place.

Go ahead. For those who do not know (suddenly there are): applications from the participants are accepted within two weeks before the start. A day or two before the start - the credentials committee, and that's all. Applications are no longer accepted. In fact, if someone was afraid of the test, which everyone knew about, then he simply wouldn’t declare.

But no, is it really necessary? It is necessary in the style of Nashenki: get rid of your shoulder, swing your hand, and in your hand hold a quack with tar. All smear.

By the way, according to the documents, 558 man has declared himself to the championship. This, by the way, and the numbers from the athletes can be seen. 36 person is less than 6,5%.

And then, by the way, the figure is not final. Later it turned out that the lists contain real participants. For example, Denis Bezrukikh. In the lists of "runaway" from doping is listed as not starting, but actually started. But fell at a distance. Error in the protocol. And the next day, Denis ran in the relay.



But inflated. “The mass flight of Russian athletes from the doping commission!” Good picture, good subtext. There, in the West, like exactly.

“Here, gentlemen (we bow), look at how dishonest we are and how we fear your doping officers! And how we are ready to flog ourselves and throw in the mud ”.

The main thing - to bow lower and more often.

Hate, to be honest. Without understanding, they simply took and spat on everyone who took part in the championship of Siberia.

I repeat: 558 registered members. 36 did not attend. The rest ran, jumped, threw and so on.

Statistics? Easy!

MSIC - 3, MS - 4, KMS - 12, 1-th digit - 12, 2-th digit - 5.

15 people arrived at the competition, but did not speak, presenting certificates of illness. By the way, such certificates, if anyone does not know, are issued by official doctors at competitions. In order not to annul the results of previous speeches.

Amazing right And the participant has no right to go anywhere for medical help (except for crisis situations, but they are also resolved by the organizers), except for the medical center of the championship.

But in order to know this, it is necessary at least once in life to perform at normal competitions. Most hacks, obviously, this information is simply not available. Therefore, they believe that you can hide behind any piece of paper bought in a private clinic around the corner.

No, gentlemen, it's a little more complicated. But you do not need it. Your job - quack dunk and lyapanut fatter.

Well, we still have 21 people who have not started. Someone is "not started", someone - "no-show".

Unfortunately, the list of "lepers" does not indicate the city. And this topic should be considered near the map.

Siberia is huge. And the primacy of such a district implies that participants will gather from the whole district, right? And they gathered. But not all.

These 21 people I consider as those who could not come, although it was stated as expected. In life, everything happens: family circumstances, and the same trivial disease. Yes, can you imagine? A sick man and just did not go to the competition. Doctors are not allowed. It happens. The coach did not decide to take on such responsibility.

Girls / youths up to 18 years - 2 people like that.
Juniors up to 20 years - 10 people.
Juniors up to 23 years - 4 people.

The rest are adults.

Doping addicts? Or still young organisms that could get sick? The number of 6% of the total?

And because of 36, a man is so quit with mud at five and a half hundreds.

Let me quote this mister Slyusarenko.

“But there were still cases when the exhausted athletes still started, but did not finish. Or "fumbled" all attempts. Here you can only marvel at their courage: in theory, the chance to fall into the hands of terrible uncles and aunts from RUSAD with test tubes at the ready they remained. But they took the risk. Sport, as we know, is overcoming. ”

In general, all rubbish.

Interestingly, did Slyusarenko himself overcome anything in his life? One could begin, for example, by overcoming the desire to crap everything. Including the growing sports youth of Siberia.

But I’ll myself say this: how wonderful it is that in Siberia (as an example) there are so many great guys and girls who go to the start and get results! And thanks to them, a little bit of confidence arises that the black bar will be passed, and our sport will rise again from its knees.



Success to young athletes from all over Russia!

Jackals-borzopistsev all stripes - shame and shame. They are not journalists, for such people there are words of a different warehouse.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 19 January 2018 06: 29
    +4
    You just have to shut your mouth like Slyusarenko and the like, so that desire would not appear again.
    1. Finches
      Finches 19 January 2018 07: 39
      17
      I just shot at a competition the other day. Always, before this case, it’s nice to drink valerian, but I turned my head to WADA with all sorts of Rodchenko and was not closely watched, so I waved brandy, out of 50 points I knocked out 45, a good result, but apparently I took a little dope, it could be better! laughing
      1. Vard
        Vard 19 January 2018 08: 11
        +4
        In any competition there are always those who could not take part, for whatever reason ... Just raise the statistics for other competitions ... And that’s it ... And so why chase the air ... And so everything is as usual ... discharge substances on the fan ... and then the roofing felts from his coat were stolen, he stole the roofing felts ... and do not leave it unpunished ... now there is a rich judicial practice of holding liable for defamation ...
        1. ism_ek
          ism_ek 19 January 2018 18: 03
          0
          Quote: Vard
          In any competition there are always those who could not take part, for any reason ...

          This is not any competition, but the championship of the federal district. I do not believe that the “sick” athletes could not find a replacement. What the whole Novosibirsk region could not find a replacement runners at 60m?
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 19 January 2018 22: 16
            0
            Quote: ism_ek
            I do not believe that the “sick” athletes could not find a replacement.

            What nafig replacement? There are no quotas.
            1. ism_ek
              ism_ek 20 January 2018 00: 09
              0
              Quote: KaPToC
              Quote: ism_ek
              I do not believe that the “sick” athletes could not find a replacement.

              What nafig replacement? There are no quotas.

              Thousands of athletes are eager to get to these starts. It is very sad that because of such "unfortunate patriots" as you scammers are selected on them. And then we are surprised: - "Why are there few awards at the Olympics ..?" Normal athletes are eliminated at the regional stages.
              1. KaPToC
                KaPToC 20 January 2018 00: 12
                0
                Quote: ism_ek
                It is very sad that because of such "unfortunate patriots" as you scammers are selected on them.

                And you do not burrow "happiness-patriot"?
                Quote: ism_ek
                "Why are there few awards at the Olympics ..?"

                Formatsevtika in Russia sank.
      2. novel66
        novel66 19 January 2018 09: 07
        +9
        purely Russian tradition - plump and shoot!
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 19 January 2018 09: 28
          +5
          There are problems, we need to talk about them, only on garlic !!!
          A nonsense brow would be nice for a talker and something else to shorten, and according to the law to drive the streets to sweep, fresh frosty air well contributes to the ventilation of the skull, if there is no brain!
          1. novel66
            novel66 19 January 2018 09: 29
            +5
            a Cossack mishandled. seem to be. there aren’t any streets of revenge,
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 19 January 2018 09: 50
              +4
              We can like in the army ... but here with all sorts of Alekseyevs and other riffraff will have to butt! We need to stir it up a bunch .... let it get airy! Wherever you are in sunny Magadan !!!
      3. tol100v
        tol100v 23 January 2018 19: 24
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        could have been better!

        I agree. "And then the trembling in the hands disappeared ..." (V.S. Vysotsky). As for the assassination of the Russian National Team at the Olympics, here you need to deal with opponents by their own measure! With these Games, everything is already clear. Removed the best! For the SGA and those who joined them at all competitions in the future, use face control! (And not only) Well, we do not like you! And that’s it! To outlaw WADA and create a new Office with other countries that is not subject to the SGA! It seems that many countries will agree to this! And bring to the clear water all Western athletes, asthmatics, drug addicts!
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 20 January 2018 14: 07
      +2
      Quote: Spartanez300
      You just have to shut your mouth like Slyusarenko and the like, so that desire would not appear again.

      I very much agree with you and I hope the official authorities will not sit idly by: in a civilized manner drag into the court all sorts of rodent and other traitors who simply give others for induction. Traitors do not cast lots - and they should know this: there will be no mercy
  2. Amurets
    Amurets 19 January 2018 06: 40
    10
    I read the article and agree with the author: such hacks must answer in the market. And in a criminal order, for slander.
    1. victorsh
      victorsh 19 January 2018 08: 36
      +3
      Unfortunately, we are NOT accustomed to defending ourselves in the courts. This is a time. The second and main thing. The defendant must be sued at the place of residence, if I am not mistaken. And these are expenses for which not everyone has money.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 19 January 2018 11: 00
        +4
        Quote: victorsh
        Unfortunately, we are NOT used to defending ourselves in the courts.

        hi
        All the hype about the “Russian doping” is based on the statements of traitors, which are picked up by WADA bastards.

        As regards our legal gurus, their actions in these situations are practically evaluated = 2. Although something is being done by the government.

        But we must understand that the attacks on our sport will continue as the Olympics and elections approach (Anglo-Saxon crap and will crap).
        1. passerby5
          passerby5 19 January 2018 16: 47
          +1
          Yes they pass on this entry from the baaalsha bell tower. but about financing, yes that's right
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 20 January 2018 12: 47
          +1
          Quote: Lelek
          But we must understand that the attacks on our sport will continue as the Olympics approach

          Muammar Gaddafi wrote: Sport is akin to prayer. It can be cultivated alone, in the company of like-minded people. But we do not go to the Temple to watch others pray? Or to a restaurant to watch others eat. Sport is a social phenomenon that aims to improve people’s health. Different Federations are self-sufficient associations that are concerned about making money, and the results of their athletes have nothing to do with health. This is their personal interest. (M. Gaddafi. "Green Book")
          why do we need olympiads? it is much better to build with this money a new capital from domestic building materials !!!
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    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 19 January 2018 08: 56
      +1
      The author of such a scribbler himself, Wada was not there, this is inside the Russian competition. Russada arrived.
      Russian athletes massively took off the championship of the Siberian Federal District in athletics indoors, learning about the arrival of doping officers from the Russian Anti-Doping Agency (RUSADA). On Wednesday, January 17, reports "Championship.com".
      1. alstr
        alstr 19 January 2018 10: 00
        +3
        In addition to what the author wrote the article, I would note that the flight is useless, because doping control can immediately come with an unscheduled test, and if it does not appear, then sanctions will follow immediately.
        Therefore, I also do not understand kipisha.

        By the way, when I participated in competitions in my youth, with an average of about 30 people and TOTAL lack of doping control, a couple of three people did not come due to illness.
    3. opus
      opus 19 January 2018 09: 57
      +7
      Quote: Amurets
      I read the article and agree with the author: such hacks must answer in the market. And in a criminal order, for slander.

      But who bothers something?
      Shl.
      "Criminal Code of the Russian Federation" from 13.06.1996 N 63-ФЗ (ed. From 31.12.2017)
      Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 128.1. Slander
      (introduced by the Federal Law from 28.07.2012 N 141-FZ)

      1. Slander, that is, dissemination of knowingly false information discrediting the honor and dignity of another person or undermining his reputation -
      shall be punished with a fine of up to five hundred thousand rubles, or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to six months, or compulsory work for up to one hundred and sixty hours.
      2. Slander, contained in a public statement, a publicly displayed work or the media -
      is punished with a fine of up to one million rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to one year, or compulsory work for a period of up to two hundred and forty hours.

      1. It is difficult to attribute defamation to a journalist. Report, it's his job
      2.Only here are the claims for the protection of the honor and dignity of bureaucrats:
      2016 Slusarenko
      Excerpts from our joint work with our colleague have been deemed to discredit the honor and dignity of one of the officials of the Russian Anti-Doping Agency (RUSADA). Our employers plan to file an appeal. If she is not satisfied, then we all pay 760 thousand rubles in total, remove the compromising information and publish a refutation.
      In March of this year, our publications (“Championship” and “Soviet Sport”) published an interview with former RUSADA employee Vitaly Stepanov, who, to attract attention, is not quite correctly called “Russian Snowden”.


      -----------------------------------------------
      The reports from Slyusarenko are normal, although there is somewhere in the middle and Roman Skomorokhov, his report will not do anything here
      24.01.2017
      Last weekend, another round of the All-Russian Athletics Federation’s winter tour was held in Orenburg - it’s the Russian championship in a mile race. Eyewitnesses will readily tell you how - after the unexpected news that the tournament will be visited by doping officers, - the stampede began from the start of the already declared athletes. More than half of the previously recorded, simply did not appear.


      As a result, in the finishing protocols of one of the most significant (judging by the prize fund and status) winter running tournaments were ... 5 women and 7 men belay


      Irkutsk (now) - Women's 60 Run Finals - around the winner of polina miller two empty tracks.


      Quote: Author
      Or still young organisms that could get sick? The number of 6% of the total?

      1.people with discharges, CCM, MS- SICK? before the competition.
      Do not make me laugh.
      I finished the 5 class, I passed it to the rank and did not get sick before 23 (although I quit sports in 10)
      2. Let's be accurate = 6,4%, that's a lot
      Quote: Author
      For example, Denis Bezrukikh. In the lists of "runaway" from doping is listed as not starting, but actually started. But fell at a distance. Error in the protocol. And the next day, Denis ran in the relay.


      / minus you, for a poor acquaintance with the source /

      Quote: BlackMokona
      The author of such a scribbler himself, Vada was not there in

      What's the difference?
      He said what he said. Everyone understood.
      This is not essential (WADA, of course there should not have been). A novel is simply a brain of the west, or it can become something that criticizes read diagonally (or just the introduction)
    4. Petr1968
      Petr1968 19 January 2018 13: 04
      0
      Quote: Amurets
      I read the article and I agree with the author: such scribblers should respond to the bazaar. Moreover, in criminal procedure, for defamation

      Why didn’t anyone write a statement?
  3. Korsar4
    Korsar4 19 January 2018 06: 46
    +3
    The order seemed to be serious. But only cooking in this kitchen can we say with confidence - what and how it was.
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  5. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 19 January 2018 07: 35
    +3
    and our sport will rise again from its knees.

    What a wretched habit of the authors to insert a kneeling pose everywhere and everywhere? Already got this chip about the knees! Freud's express reservation negative
  6. cedar
    cedar 19 January 2018 08: 31
    +3
    "... And here I’ll say it from myself: it’s so wonderful that in Siberia (as an example) there are so many great guys and girls who go to the start and achieve results! And thanks to them, little by little there is confidence that the black line will be passed and our sport will rise from its knees again ... "

    They have a wonderful example of their fathers and grandfathers, who calls them to through thorns to the stars.

    Sovereignty. USSR - Russia. The leader of the NCD is Putin.
    1. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 19 January 2018 09: 29
      +3
      A parade of athletes hosted by Stalin, which is not laid out?
  7. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 19 January 2018 08: 37
    +2
    I observe the country, a large number of stadiums, ice palaces, etc. ... however, in the spirit of today they are not working for the health of the nation, this goal is not even set. It is only set to make money in the international arena, which is obviously a losing business. Than to send football players to international tournaments, and even pay money to the West for this, it’s better to organize more regional and district competitions in order to have a festive atmosphere !! There would be more joy in our lives. And we do not need lonely supermen selling their talent abroad, They only need a fee.
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 19 January 2018 11: 45
      +2
      Not always. Sports palaces and Ice palaces appear. There are enough nonsense. But there are worthy coaches, often of old sourdough.
  8. ism_ek
    ism_ek 19 January 2018 08: 43
    +2
    There is a very serious problem with doping in junior sports. It is impossible to hush it up. This is the health of our children.
    It is necessary to restore the structure of sports clinics. Perhaps in Moscow they are still preserved, but in the regions they are universally closed. There are no sports doctors in the regions about whom the author writes.
  9. thinker
    thinker 19 January 2018 09: 26
    +1
    Interestingly, Slyusarenko himself at least something overcome in his life?

    Get to know this G. ... (citizen)
    Evgeny Slyusarenko
    Sports Journalist
    Shortly before graduation, he realized that the Olympic champion would not come out of him, and chose an alternative option - to write about sports. For fidelity, he graduated from the journalism department of Moscow State University and defended his dissertation in specialized journals and the history of the Soviet sports press. For 15 years in the profession he worked in a variety of projects, now he is the deputy editor-in-chief of the Championat.com portal, columnist of the social and economic newspaper Espresso.

    1. opus
      opus 19 January 2018 10: 39
      +5
      Quote: thinker
      Get to know this G. ... (citizen)

      and?




      Quote: Author
      WADA warned organizers as expected - for the month. belay By official notification of the President of the Federation of Athletics of the Irkutsk Region Denis Petushinsky. FLA of the Irkutsk region is obliged to provide the address where the competition will take place.

      Slyusarenko:
      I have already seen many "refutations" on "partriotic" resources about my simple text about three dozens of non-starting sportsmen (I don’t say anything about regional ones - people simply turn off their heads, so long as their REGION doesn’t have anything smeared on it). Citizens are not at all interested in reality - it is important for them to adjust the facts to it.

      THINKER (!!!) need to THINK

      Irkutsk coach said that about doping control knew in advance - right there "ahahahaha, that's all, here's your investigation, here's your fake." Although fans of Russia do not realize that this coach has carefully passed all of them all, the whole chain of corruption: How can it be so that RUSADA will know about the MONTHLY visit? It is like an unplanned doping control (and how could it be planned at the championship of the federal district, when we do not have Russian champions tested?). There you can disassemble and shake your head in bewilderment: do people understand what they are talking about?

      But the reality. An eyewitness writes to me in a personal.

      "It seems that for those who were surprised to find out about the doping control visit, it was the most unpleasant time in their lives. Some participants "disappeared" straight from the start (in the Pauline Miller race, the announcer even announced the names of the participants who were absent on the tracks - both participants, which is typical of the same coach!). The problems of other athletes were taken by the coaches. The secretariat has seen a lively activity from disheveled coaches who urgently sought help for their players. Therefore 10 people were shot or there is no difference 60. The fact that doppers and coaches rushed in panic, that rats are on a sinking ship "(with)


      https://www.facebook.com/e.slyusarenko?fref=nf

      The truth is somewhere in the middle, and I think the middle is not in our direction.
      otherwise?
      WHERE ARE THE COURTS, THE REQUESTS of ours after the Olympics in Brazil, other competitions, now before the Olympiad?
      Where?
      In Lausan, civilians?
      1. thinker
        thinker 19 January 2018 11: 18
        +1
        For the dull
        I repeat: 558 registered members. 36 did not attend. The rest ran, jumped, threw and so on.

        Slyusarenko just PR on a hot topic.
        Epidemic. Russian athletes got sick massively after learning about doping control
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  10. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 19 January 2018 09: 28
    +1
    The corresponding association, under whose auspices the competitions were held, the police should fight for such things with a demand to find a shit, so that they could sue him later
  11. Pacifist
    Pacifist 19 January 2018 09: 34
    +2
    I did not believe the original fake article on the move. From her a mile away carried grants, shit and dullness of the author. The best thing would be, with the support of local authorities, the athletes mentioned in the article, to sue the author and strip him to the skin. The most effective way to punish such degenerates is money. No profit - no crappy articles.
  12. cedar
    cedar 19 January 2018 09: 56
    +2
    Quote: Captain Nemo
    A parade of athletes hosted by Stalin, which is not laid out?


    Why, why ... I live here. Here is what.
  13. igorra
    igorra 19 January 2018 10: 00
    +1
    According to the latest census, Ukrainians 1,35% of the total population of Russia, and shit from them pouring into the country, clearly exceeds 90%. From the previous: the good boy Kolya from Urengoy, with the entire Ukrainian diaspora of the city, apologized for all of us, for the excessive use of force in Stalingrad.
  14. zyzx
    zyzx 19 January 2018 10: 11
    +1
    SIBERIA, DUBAR, I live here myself, people get sick!
  15. BAI
    BAI 19 January 2018 10: 54
    +3
    The larger the competition, the more refusals to participate for various reasons, including health. Simple statistics. There would be 1000 participants, 70 people would not take part. So what?
  16. Moscow landing
    Moscow landing 19 January 2018 11: 48
    +3
    If the sick had passed the tests, and even with a negative result, then the author would have called the journalist a jackal.
    1. 82т11
      82т11 19 January 2018 21: 13
      0
      Now, if they found doping among the sick, then the journalists are right, and you can say anything indiscriminately.
      To examples that you are a respected Russophobe, and now prove the opposite?
      1. Moscow landing
        Moscow landing 20 January 2018 09: 50
        0
        Normal Russian must be Russophobe. I do not like, like Pushkin (!), When foreigners are them.
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  18. Petr1968
    Petr1968 19 January 2018 13: 00
    +1
    The point of the article is yes, but is it a coincidence? We have doping NOBODY ever accept?
    Patriots should say hands off Russia ?? What is the argument. Believe that we are saints ... alas .. the facts show otherwise.
  19. lance
    lance 19 January 2018 13: 32
    +1
    the author really does not know how when and for what is taken. I'm more interested in biathlon and furcata with its diseases and results. and after all, no one has compiled a schedule of these diseases and the results. there are no such units in the FSB as in the KGB. hence the wady, the authors and the like.
  20. zenion
    zenion 19 January 2018 14: 06
    +1
    Only recently there was a cry that Stalin destroyed the fifth column, but it turned out that she was more alive than all the living, that she was more alive than the mafia.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 19 January 2018 15: 57
      0
      Quote: zenion
      Only recently there was a cry that Stalin destroyed the fifth column, but it turned out that she was more alive than all the living, that she was more alive than the mafia.

      Why is the FSB not fighting, they .... also the 5th convoy, do you think so?
  21. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 19 January 2018 15: 20
    -1
    In short, all addicts.

    that's right!
    I want to fold the mats .. one on the other! To be softer ..
  22. Homos
    Homos 19 January 2018 19: 23
    +1
    It is immediately clear that the squeak thrown on the fan in the sport was not noticed achievements. It’s normal not to come to the competition, and the reason may be commonplace - there’s nothing and for nothing. There may be no transport (there is no money in the budget, you filed an application late), they break down / get stuck on the road, there is no money for fuel (and no one will compensate), but you won’t go for your starts. This is just one reason, to all the rest.
  23. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 19 January 2018 23: 07
    -1
    Quote: thinker
    For the dull
    I repeat: 558 registered members. 36 did not attend. The rest ran, jumped, threw and so on.

    Slyusarenko just PR on a hot topic.
    Epidemic. Russian athletes got sick massively after learning about doping control

    Well, I really want to know the results of the other runners, snugglers, and throwing too ...
  24. St54
    St54 23 January 2018 05: 07
    0
    Quote: VeteranVSSSR


    Well, I really want to know the results of the other runners, snugglers, and throwing too ...

    Will get over ...
  25. smaug78
    smaug78 23 January 2018 10: 59
    0
    Dear author, why did the VFLA launch its own investigation? It’s clear that this is not a snake-snake, but you don’t need to hide your head in the sand.