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Rosgvardia plans to arm "Tigers" with anti-tank missile systems "Cornet"

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Rosgvardiya will adopt the armored "Tiger" with anti-tank rocket launchers "Cornet" until the end of 2018, it follows from the materials posted on the portal of public procurement, reports "Interfax".


According to the schedule, the department plans to acquire eight armored vehicles of the military-industrial complex 233136 “Tiger” with a total value of about 85 million 423 thousand rubles.

Rosgvardia plans to arm "Tigers" with anti-tank missile systems "Cornet"


Also, by the end of the year Rosgvardia intends to purchase eight sets of portable launchers of the Kornet anti-tank missile system (ATGM) intended for deployment on armored vehicles for 57 million 380 thousand rubles.

The Cornet complex purchased by the department will be able to have a cumulative warhead to defeat promising tanks (9M133 rocket), and thermobaric (9M133F) - for the destruction of bunkers, field fortifications, engineering structures, surface and air targets (helicopters, drones, attack aircraft aviation), as well as manpower of the enemy. The Cornet has eight missiles ready for firing, with 16 full ammunition.

According to government procurement data, by the end of 2018, Rosgvard's troops intend to receive 96 9М133 missiles worth 79 million 180 thousand and 32 9XXUMUMFF missiles with a total value of about 133 million 24 thousand rubles.

As reported, anti-tank systems "Cornet" were tested in combat conditions during the Syrian campaign.
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  1. Shura Perm
    Shura Perm 18 January 2018 14: 35
    +1
    Can the Russian Guard and MANPADS immediately purchase?)))) Caucasian Wahhabis can be entertained from RPG 7
    1. Rusland
      Rusland 18 January 2018 14: 40
      +8
      Well, yes, on a tracked track.
    2. demo
      demo 18 January 2018 14: 44
      24
      The next step is the Air Force, Navy and further down the list.
      Question: Why is the Rosguard all this necessary?
      It is embarrassing and annoying.
      Really the most gloomy forecasts are justified?
      1. The black
        The black 18 January 2018 14: 46
        11
        Well, right the NKVD division before sending to the front winked
      2. edeligor
        edeligor 18 January 2018 15: 00
        +1
        Quote: demo
        Really the most gloomy forecasts are justified?

        Choi is not comfortable for me either ...
        1. Alexander War
          Alexander War 18 January 2018 15: 07
          +2
          8 cars purchased, most likely will be used to fight against terrorists!
          1. edeligor
            edeligor 18 January 2018 15: 11
            +8
            Well, that's just terrorists using heavy equipment is already too much. The question is born on its own, what are they preparing for ?!
            1. Alexander War
              Alexander War 18 January 2018 15: 13
              +2
              So smoke them from the shelters!
              1. PSih2097
                PSih2097 18 January 2018 16: 54
                +2
                Quote: Alexander War
                So smoke them from the shelters!

                from the shelters - the bumblebee will be enough, and then they’ve gotten into the tanks, they’ve gathered to fight the army or something ...
                1. lukewarm
                  lukewarm 18 January 2018 17: 56
                  +4
                  Quote: PSih2097
                  were going to fight with the army or something ...

                  Not without it. Feudalism and feudal fragmentation. Each prince has his own squad. And VV has been from Yeltsin and Yeltsin’s times both in terms of numbers and equipment in front of the army. And since then a joking question has been asked - where is our state’s enemy?
                  1. Dedall
                    Dedall 18 January 2018 19: 22
                    +4
                    And I would also add that in the staff culture of the explosives, too, were higher than the army. While I served in them, I got sick of drawing maps and other plans. Just imagine that even before simple firing, I wrote a plan of medical support for the firing, indicating the places of heating and water supply, the responsible and the routes of the ambulance. I generally keep quiet about the orders ...
                2. Alexey RA
                  Alexey RA 18 January 2018 19: 20
                  +4
                  Quote: PSih2097
                  from the shelters - a bumblebee is enough,

                  Range and accuracy. ATGM allows you to lay a missile at a target from a range at which a bearded rifleman is useless. No need to crawl along the slope to the caches - you can work out right from the road.
                  1. edeligor
                    edeligor 19 January 2018 07: 45
                    0
                    Quote: Alexey RA
                    Range and accuracy

                    But why trifle then, "Caliber" and not leave the office ... I do not believe it! One thing only surprises - why voice such preparations? We learned how to do stuffing with "overseas elves", like - we are ready for anything, sit and don’t snort !!!
            2. Alexander War
              Alexander War 18 January 2018 15: 19
              +3
              To that. Why is preparing and NATO from the United States at our borders! To the war!
              1. x.andvlad
                x.andvlad 18 January 2018 15: 36
                +9
                By the way, the main tasks of the Rosguard include, among other things, ensuring the territorial integrity and defense of Russia. So in this sense, anti-tank weapons do not cause controversy. Moreover, they plan to purchase a small amount.
                For example, in the protection of the Crimean bridge a pair of such machines would not hurt. To combat high-speed sea targets on the approach to the bridge - that's it.
                And missiles with thermobaric warheads would be great for fighting bandunas in shelters.
                1. Alexander War
                  Alexander War 18 January 2018 15: 41
                  +1
                  To protect the Crimean bridge, you need such boats
                  1. x.andvlad
                    x.andvlad 18 January 2018 15: 51
                    +1
                    I agree. But everything is needed in a complex. Since the protection of such structures must provide maximum options for action.
            3. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 18 January 2018 15: 29
              +6
              Quote: edeligor
              Well, that's just terrorists using heavy equipment is already too much. The question is born on its own, what are they preparing for ?!

              We read carefully:
              The Cornet complex purchased by the department will be able to have both a cumulative warhead for hitting promising tanks (9M133 missile) and a thermobaric (9M133F) - for the destruction of bunkers, field fortifications, engineering structures, surface and air targets (helicopters, drones, attack aircraft), as well as enemy manpower.

              PMSM, this unit is purchased in order to accurately put TBC from several kilometers into the entrance of the crypt or into the embrasure of the firing point covering it.
              Because now the assault on such caches is a long and tedious sight: a dozen snipers and shooters "hold" the slopes around the crypt and the entrance to it, which the especially brave ones slowly crawl to - the distance of the effective fire of the GM-94, grenade launcher, and even throw grenades .
              1. strannik1985
                strannik1985 18 January 2018 17: 41
                0
                The choice of the base is dubious, the military did not suit the BRDM-2 at one time, after the "Competition" all the vehicles were tracked.
              2. Dedall
                Dedall 18 January 2018 19: 29
                +2
                And on this occasion, I remembered how one major tanker asked our guys from the Center for Special Operations: "Do you really need militants?" They thought and answered: "No." Before this, by the way, they fired at the house all day from RPG and AGS. So one shell from the tank was enough to fill up that reinforced concrete house. This is me from the fact that from 1998 to 2005 in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the tanks were. In our DON-100 there was a whole tank regiment. And also artillery division with D-30 and M-30 was. And they were not sitting idle in the Czech Republic
                1. Alexey RA
                  Alexey RA 18 January 2018 19: 58
                  +2
                  Quote: Dedall
                  And on this occasion, I remembered how one major tanker asked our guys from the Center for Special Operations: "Do you really need militants?" They thought and answered: "No." Before this, by the way, they fired at the house all day from RPG and AGS.

                  During the “battle at the relocation” in the war on 08.08.08/693/XNUMX, part of the Georgian soldiers from the engineering company, who jumped out on our paratroopers engaged in the repair of the BMD, ran into the station building - reasonably assuming that there was nothing to smoke them from there. The paratroopers fired on the building - without result. Then a tank of XNUMX MSP came up and multiplied the defenders by zero.
            4. Piramidon
              Piramidon 18 January 2018 17: 01
              +3
              Quote: edeligor
              Well, that's just terrorists using heavy equipment is already too much. The question is born on its own, what are they preparing for ?!

              Apparently beyond the title you did not read.
              the Kornet complex will be able to have both a cumulative warhead for hitting promising tanks (9M133 missile) and thermobaric (9M133F) - for the destruction of bunkers, field fortifications, engineering structures, surface and air targets (helicopters, drones, attack aircraft), as well as enemy manpower.
            5. g1v2
              g1v2 18 January 2018 20: 07
              +1
              Were there tanks in Chechnya? And why do you think that this can not be repeated elsewhere? Maybe not now, but if the country weakens again at some time? request
              Well, do not forget. that in the event of any rebellion in the part of the Ministry of Defense or the Ministry of Internal Affairs on the territory of the Russian Federation, the Russian Guard will also deal with its suppression.
              Plus, in the event of a serious war, it is the Rosguard that will provide the rear of the fronts, the fight against the DRG and the defense of cities on the territory of the Russian Federation. PM anti-tank weapons will not be amiss. request
              1. gringo
                gringo 18 January 2018 20: 16
                0
                Cornet has a thermobaric missile. 9M133F. You can not only shoot at tanks.
        2. Maz
          Maz 18 January 2018 17: 20
          +1
          The Dzerzhinsky’s division even had Mi24 helicopters in service, and then there were some cars. Strange sho no tanks and no planes
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 18 January 2018 19: 23
            0
            Quote: Maz
            Strange sho no tanks and no planes

            The Vovans had tanks - even in the Second Chechen took part. They were selected only in 2006.
      3. Chertt
        Chertt 18 January 2018 15: 21
        +2
        Quote: demo
        Really the most gloomy forecasts are justified?

        You are a happy person. For you, the “darkest forecast” is that. that the Rosguard will receive the Navy bully
      4. Lexus
        Lexus 19 January 2018 00: 57
        +1
        the next step is the Air Force, Navy and further on the list.
        Question: Why is the Rosguard all this necessary?
        It is embarrassing and annoying.
        Really the most gloomy forecasts are justified?

        Plus a secret budget. Secret for us. Enemies will always find a loophole through the runaways.
        Oprichnina in its purest form.
    3. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 18 January 2018 14: 50
      +4
      And what - barmalei do not know how to use helicopters? Let it be better not to be in demand in warehouses, than they will not be at the right time.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 18 January 2018 14: 59
        +2
        Where did our barmaley come from in our country?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 18 January 2018 15: 30
          +2
          Quote: marlin1203
          Where did our barmaley come from in our country?

          From the same place where they came from in 1991 - they were stolen or bought at army depots.
          In addition, the "Competition" is not only an ATGM, but also the ability to destroy an OT or a crypt without entering the fire zone of a gangster rifle and RPG.
        2. DMB_95
          DMB_95 18 January 2018 16: 19
          0
          Quote: marlin1203
          Where did our barmaley come from in our country?

          Is Rosguard should only drive barmaley? Ideally, it’s possible. But you need to have weapons and to deal with a more serious enemy.
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 18 January 2018 16: 56
            0
            Quote: DMB_95
            Is Rosguard should only drive barmaley?

            and what are the responsibilities of the insiders? oh yes even extinguish riots ...
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 18 January 2018 17: 20
              +5
              Quote: PSih2097
              oh yes even extinguish riots ..

              Yeah, thermal bars. wassat Although, about six years ago on Bolotnaya would have been welcome. yes
              1. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor 18 January 2018 21: 49
                +1
                about six years ago on Bolotnaya would have been welcome.

                There it would be ...
                With AGS they throw and finish off with a machine gun ...
            2. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 18 January 2018 17: 21
              +3
              Quote: PSih2097
              and what are the responsibilities of the insiders? oh yes even extinguish riots ...

              Open law on the WG is not fate?
              1. The following tasks are assigned to the troops of the National Guard:
              1) participation in the protection of public order, ensuring public safety;
              2) protection of important state facilities, special cargoes, facilities on communications in accordance with the lists approved by the Government of the Russian Federation;
              3) participation in the fight against terrorism and extremism;
              4) participation in ensuring regimes of emergency, martial law, the legal regime of counter-terrorism operations;
              5) participation in the territorial defense of the Russian Federation;
              6) assisting the border authorities of the federal security service in protecting the State border of the Russian Federation;
              7) federal state control (supervision) over compliance with the legislation of the Russian Federation in the field of arms trafficking and in the field of private security and private detective activities, as well as ensuring the security of the fuel and energy complex, the activities of legal entities with special statutory tasks and units departmental security;
              8) protection of particularly important and sensitive facilities, facilities subject to mandatory protection by the troops of the national guard, in accordance with the list approved by the Government of the Russian Federation, protection of property of individuals and legal entities under contracts ...

              Point 4 is, for example, both Chechen and KTO in Dagestan in 1999.
              Point 5 is territorial defense, the fight against RDG and bandit formations.
              Point 6 is right up to the reflection of breakthroughs of bandit formations from the adjacent territory.
  2. Rusland
    Rusland 18 January 2018 14: 38
    10
    They are seriously arming themselves, it’s convenient to grumble at home, in which militants take refuge.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 18 January 2018 15: 16
      0
      Quote: Rusland
      They are seriously arming themselves, it’s convenient to grumble at home, in which militants take refuge.

      Instead of one Cornet rocket, 40 Bumblebees can be launched.
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 18 January 2018 15: 23
        +1
        You compared, and in range?
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 18 January 2018 15: 38
        +4
        Quote: Esoteric
        Instead of one Cornet rocket, 40 Bumblebees can be launched.

        Or lose 40 flamethrowers trying to reach the effective range of RPO fire and lay ammunition in the target under the fire of snipers or machine gunners.
        1. Maz
          Maz 18 January 2018 17: 22
          0
          Range bumblebee 2800 like. What kind of sniper, machine gunner?
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 18 January 2018 19: 28
            0
            Quote: Maz
            Range bumblebee 2800 like.

            Yeah ... and the range of the Mosin rifle is 2500 m. laughing
            Do not confuse the maximum range of ammunition with the effective firing range. The sighting range of the "Bumblebee" is 600-800 m. And taking into account the speed of the ammunition of the "Bumblebee" and unpredictable winds in the mountains - God forbid, get 300-400 meters where you need to.
          2. Dedall
            Dedall 18 January 2018 19: 37
            +1
            Have you tried to get at least at home at such a range? I tried 800 meters and ... didn’t hit. And all because the firing range in TTX is the distance the capsule is able to fly. But "Baby", when he was still in Turkmenistan, at such a distance the tank turned out.
        2. strannik1985
          strannik1985 18 January 2018 20: 11
          0
          A tiger may simply not reach the caches. For example, MTLBs were very popular in Chechnya (as of mid-November 1999, 667 cars in the state military guard (s)). In theory, we need a caterpillar base and a removable launcher (I would prefer cooperation with the Belarusian OJSC Peleng-Cornet missile and launcher from the Hornet).
  3. Kent0001
    Kent0001 18 January 2018 14: 38
    +3
    And why is the Russian Guard of the ATGM? Whose armored formations were they going to fight? All eight sets.
  4. HEATHER
    HEATHER 18 January 2018 14: 43
    +2
    Something is not right. Combat use in - where? The machine is nimble, powerful armament. What's in cover? 12,7 will take it apart for spare parts when it’s direct. Or is it for chasing running deer in the field? The meaning of this machine? Only for short-term cover are the same PU TOPOL, YARS. Otherwise, not I understand. Will cover the platoon in the forest standing on the field as a target? However.
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 18 January 2018 14: 49
      0
      What's in cover? 12,7 will take it apart for spare parts. So the 12,7mm and the armored personnel carrier will disassemble, the missiles will obviously not be fired from 1-2 km!
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 January 2018 14: 45
    +3
    The firepower of "Rosguard" is growing in front of an amazed audience. Not at all children's toys. God forbid, they will apply ...
  6. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 18 January 2018 14: 47
    +3
    The Federal Service of the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation (Rosguard) is the federal executive body of the Russian Federation.
    What tanks is the Rosguard going to fight with?
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 18 January 2018 15: 20
      +7
      Quote: _Jack_
      What tanks is the Rosguard going to fight with?

      In all likelihood, here with these:

      For other purposes, there is an army, navy, aviation, missile troops and artillery, special forces ... PMC fighters, finally ... request
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 18 January 2018 15: 35
        +2
        Roshydromet will receive 68 towed D-30 howitzers, and Roshydromet will shoot at parked cars near houses that interfere with snow removal in winter?
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 18 January 2018 16: 32
        +3
        I understand that these are the only enemies of the WG? And in the UK now we have peace, friendship, unicorns running and blue ponies flying?
        But this is all Putin’s propaganda:

        Quote: Esoteric
        For other purposes, there is an army, navy, aviation, missile troops and artillery, special forces ... PMC soldiers, finally ..

        An army can only be used domestically if a state of emergency is introduced. For WHO inside the country there were just explosives. It’s just that the First and Second Chechen Vovans weren’t enough (then the army was barely enough - 50 thousand bayonets were gathered throughout the country, a combined battalion of marines was recruited by the company from the fleet).
        And by the way, then nobody was worried about something - why did the explosives suddenly have their tanks, aircraft, artillery and MLRS?
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 18 January 2018 14: 47
    +5
    And will the Rosnazgvardia buy two nuclear aircraft carriers and receive thirty Su57 aircraft by the end of the year? fool They then "Cornets" why ?? recourse
    1. edeligor
      edeligor 18 January 2018 15: 03
      +2
      I don’t want to add 2 + 2 ..., but I thought about March 18 ...
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 18 January 2018 15: 10
        +1
        Choi is not at ease for me ... everything is fine! It may not be at ease if they will buy tanks and MLRS!
        1. Herculesic
          Herculesic 18 January 2018 15: 12
          +1
          Tanks and MLRS they will receive in the form of Sheva help! belay
          1. Alexander War
            Alexander War 18 January 2018 15: 17
            +1
            The US National Guard also has F-16 fighters and much more!
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 18 January 2018 16: 59
              0
              Quote: Alexander War
              The US National Guard also has F-16 fighters and much more!

              only now they are the reserve of the US Army, and our insiders are not, by definition.
      2. Alexander War
        Alexander War 18 January 2018 15: 33
        +1
        Roshydromet will receive 68 towed D-30 howitzers https://rg.ru/2017/11/12/rosgidromet-vooruzhili-g
        aubicami.html
      3. Archon
        Archon 18 January 2018 15: 38
        0
        Like to smoke people from houses and make them go to the polls?
      4. AndreyS
        AndreyS 18 January 2018 15: 58
        0
        Quote: edeligor
        I don’t want to add 2 + 2 ..., but I thought about March 18 ...

        Do not carry nonsense dear edeligor! They are going to buy, it means they just put up for sale the start of production, tenders for six months, the year of manufacture, and distribution for divisions for six months. Total ?!
        But the posts above about the war, I think very much to the point. In accordance with Federal Law No. 226 of July 03.07.2016, XNUMX:
        "...1. The troops of the National Guard are entrusted with the following tasks:
        1) participation in the protection of public order, ensuring public safety;
        2) protection of important state facilities, special cargoes, facilities on communications in accordance with the lists approved by the Government of the Russian Federation;
        3) participation in the fight against terrorism and extremism;
        4) participation in ensuring regimes of emergency, martial law, the legal regime of counter-terrorism operations;
        5) participation in the territorial defense of the Russian Federation;
        6) assisting the border agencies of the federal security service in protecting the state border of the Russian Federation;
        7) federal state control (supervision) over compliance with the legislation of the Russian Federation in the field of arms trafficking and in the field of private security and private detective activities, as well as ensuring the security of the fuel and energy complex, the activities of legal entities with special statutory tasks and units departmental security;
        8) protection of particularly important and sensitive facilities, facilities subject to mandatory protection by the troops of the national guard, in accordance with the list approved by the Government of the Russian Federation, protection of property of individuals and legal entities under contracts ...
        "
        Система ГАРАНТ: http://base.garant.ru/71433920/741609f9002bd54a24
        e5c49cb5af953b/#ixzz54XYvPcBe
        In your opinion, in accordance with 5, 6, such complexes may be needed ?!
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 18 January 2018 16: 42
          0
          Quote: AndreyS
          In your opinion, in accordance with 5, 6, such complexes may be needed ?!

          Forgot about point 4.
          4) participation in ensuring regimes of emergency, martial law, the legal regime of counter-terrorism operations;

          The CTO regime is, for example, Dagestan-1999. Then they even used the Su-25 with ODAB and artillery 122-152 mm.
          And the state of emergency is a full-fledged war within the country. At one time, they really did not want to introduce him in Chechnya - because his introduction formally transferred the CTO to the level of war.
  8. Assyrian
    Assyrian 18 January 2018 14: 53
    +2
    Interestingly, someone signed the procurement or weapons program, or as in the market, saw tangerines and bought them.
    Let someone convince me of an urgent need.
    No words, one obscene.
    1. allaykbar
      allaykbar 18 January 2018 16: 35
      +1
      If the Caucasus does not convince you, the book will not help either
  9. san4es
    san4es 18 January 2018 15: 26
    +1
    The Cornet will be able to have both a cumulative warhead for hitting promising tanks (9M133 missile) and thermobaric (9M133F)


    Also, by the end of the year, the Rosgvardia intends to purchase eight sets of Kornet portable anti-tank missile launchers (ATGMs)
    soldier
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 18 January 2018 15: 29
      +1
      Hello namesake! hi
      1. san4es
        san4es 18 January 2018 15: 46
        +1
        Quote: Alexander War
        Hello namesake! hi

        hi Wow. What is missing? ... keep the info fellow

        ATGM “Cornet” makes an attack on the frontal projection of armored vehicles, using a semi-automatic guidance system and using a laser beam. The operator’s task is to detect the target, point the target at it, fire a shot and hold the target in sight until it is hit.
        The Kornet complex is reliably protected from active and passive interference, the protection is realized by directing the photodetector of the rocket toward the launcher.
        Anti-tank guided missile (ATGM), which is part of the complex "Cornet", made according to the scheme "duck". The disclosing rudders are located in front of the rocket, there is also their drive, as well as the leading charge of the tandem cumulative warhead.
        An engine with two nozzles is located in the middle part of the rocket, behind it is the main charge of the cumulative warhead. At the rear of the rocket is a control system, including a laser receiver. Also located behind are four folding wings.
        ATGM together with the expelling charge was placed in a disposable sealed plastic container. Many experts (especially foreign ones) do not consider the Cornet a third-generation complex, since it does not implement the principle of homing a missile at a target. However, this weapon has a lot of advantages not only over the outdated second-generation ATGMs, but also over the latest Javelin systems. Here are the main ones:
        universality: "Cornet" can be used both against armored vehicles, and against firing points and field strengthening the enemy;
        ease of shooting from unprepared positions from different positions: "lying", "from the knee", "in the trench";
        the ability to use at any time of the day;
        high noise immunity;
        the possibility of using a wide range of carriers;
        salvo firing with two missiles;
        long firing range (up to 10 km);
        high missile penetration, which allows anti-tank systems to successfully deal with almost all types of modern tanks.
        The main advantage of ATGM "Cornet" is its cost, it is about three times lower than that of missiles with a homing head.
        Combat use of the complex
        The first serious conflict in which the Cornet complex was used was the war in Lebanon in 2006. The Hezbollah group actively used this ATGM, which almost frustrated the Israeli army’s offensive. According to the information of the Israelis, 46 Merkava tanks were damaged during the fighting. Although, not all of them were knocked out precisely from the "Cornet". Hezbollah received these ATGMs via Syria

        https://militaryarms.ru/boepripasy/rakety/ptrk-ko
        rnet /
  10. Strashila
    Strashila 18 January 2018 15: 40
    +1
    The optimism of developers always pins on the deployment of a large number of weapons on technology ... such as this is cool ... such as power ... ... do not flatter yourself, after the first launch the crew will think where and how to quickly hide, so as not to get an answer. There’s a couple on Chrysanthemum ... and that’s enough, better put a remote module with a heavy machine gun, a couple of ATGMs and make a universal place for installing disposable grenade launchers and flamethrowers ... but at least under the RPG-7 pipe, the launch from the car will be much more accurate than with hands.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 18 January 2018 16: 52
      0
      Quote: Strashila
      There’s a couple on Chrysanthemum ... and that's enough

      Chrysanthemum has 2 launchers, 2 guidance systems (2 anti-tank guiding channels), 15 anti-tank missiles in a missile defense.
      The Tiger: 2x4 launchers, 2 guidance systems (2 ATGM guidance channels), 16 ATGMs in the BC. Moreover, the complex can shoot two missiles at the same target with one launcher. That is, for 1 volley it is possible to launch 4 ATGMs for two purposes - half of the missiles installed on the launchers.
      1. Strashila
        Strashila 18 January 2018 17: 57
        0
        To begin with, who is the customer ... Rosguard ... the old Internal troops ... who is the enemy ... not regular units ... main tasks ... or escorting columns or actions inside settlements of different buildings and floors. Everywhere, first of all, the task is to detect the enemy ... there should be various systems for observing and identifying optical devices ... shooting ATGMs on sparrows is stupid and expensive ... this is what the Americans noticed in Afghanistan that shooting at every mujahideen from Javelin ... is very it’s unprofitable, therefore, as an alternative, the presence of a machine gun ... feel the price of solving the issue and the suggestion about the possibility of starting from disposable grenade launchers from this is the same ... to shoot with hands or from a machine are different conditions ... the use of ATGM is an extreme measure and expensive, Syria’s example is illustrative ... there are no naughty ATGMs from the hip ... there are cheaper and no less effective ways to destroy the target. And this machine is not direct contact in battle ... it will even be smashed out of small arms ... for mass use ... or to the extreme RPG-7.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 18 January 2018 19: 41
          0
          Quote: Strashila
          To begin with, who is the customer ... Rosguard ... the old Internal troops ... who is the enemy ... not regular units ... main tasks ... or escorting columns or actions inside settlements of different buildings and floors.

          Not only. In the Caucasus, explosives also operate in mountainous and wooded areas, outside populated areas. And in these cases even mortars are used.
          Quote: Strashila
          firing ATGMs on sparrows is stupid and expensive ... this is what the Americans noticed in Afghanistan that it’s very expensive to shoot every mujahideen from Javelin ... therefore it’s an alternative to having a machine gun ...

          And who is talking about the shooting at each Mujahideen? ATGMs are a niche weapon for disassembling fortified firing points covering bases and caches in the same mountains.
          And OT in those parts is enough. Pomnitsa, in 2000 in Dagestan in one of the villages suddenly found a whole UR.
          Quote: Strashila
          the use of ATGM is an extreme measure and expensive

          Not more expensive than the personnel that the enemy will put when trying to get closer to the effective range of the rifleman / RPG.
          Quote: Strashila
          on this, as an alternative, the presence of a machine gun ... feel the price of solving the issue and the suggestion about the possibility of starting from disposable grenade launchers from this is the same ... to shoot with hands or from a machine are different conditions ...

          That's just in case of arming with a machine gun or RPG, the Tiger will have to be substituted under enemy fire. Because no matter how hard the machine would be, no one canceled the same wind. So the effective firing range when using unguided weapons will be approximately equal to the effective firing range of the enemy. Oh yes, and have to shoot from the stop. In the case of anti-tank systems, however, too, but there the "tiger" can be moved away from the enemy by 2 kilometers and the missile trajectory can be adjusted during the flight.
  11. Bronevick
    Bronevick 18 January 2018 16: 04
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    Vote correctly or feel the full power of the Cornets.
  12. Alexander War
    Alexander War 18 January 2018 16: 11
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    soon at the traffic police to deal with offenders laughing
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 18 January 2018 17: 01
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      Quote: Alexander War
      soon at the traffic police to deal with offenders laughing

      based on the T-80 with the gas turbine engine, so that they could catch up ... smile
  13. groks
    groks 18 January 2018 16: 32
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    I can not say anything. If without a mat.
  14. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 18 January 2018 17: 41
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    It is strange that cars with 1 module do not ... UAZs or Scorpions ...
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 18 January 2018 17: 43
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    And the old BMP 1/2 would have looked very good during the modernization ... To remove the SAM from the tower from the roof with 12,7 mm and such Cornets to the place of the airborne squad ... Great! The engine is new, ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 18 January 2018 19: 44
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      And the old BMP 1/2 would have looked very good during the modernization ... To remove the SAM from the tower from the roof with 12,7 mm and such Cornets to the place of the airborne squad ... Great! The engine is new, ...

      So far, the BMP-2 is being modernized in a universal way: they put the Berezhok with an inhabited tower.
      The combat compartment of the B05Y01 Berezhok is equipped with a 30A2 42-mm automatic gun, an AG-30M 30-mm automatic grenade launcher, a PKTM 7,62-mm machine gun and two twin Cornet guided missile launchers.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 18 January 2018 20: 07
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        I meant in the version of ATGM. The cross is high and swims ...
  16. Glory1974
    Glory1974 18 January 2018 18: 41
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    Previously, explosives could operate only in the territory of their country. Now there is no such restriction.
    Considering that the Russian Guard is removing BMP-1 and BMP-2 BMPs, that is, without the 30 mm and 73 mm guns, it looks like some kind of replacement to compensate for firepower. But firepower is needed, there are such cases.
  17. dmmyak40
    dmmyak40 18 January 2018 20: 15
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    Quote: Alexander War
    Roshydromet will receive 68 towed D-30 howitzers, and Roshydromet will shoot at parked cars near houses that interfere with snow removal in winter?

    A bombardment of avalanches from machine guns? Think before you write ...
  18. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 18 January 2018 20: 16
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    He would have a machine gun there, so that in case of something to get rid of the infantry, in the same Syria, bearded cockroaches everywhere and always can get out, not with rockets on them.
  19. Varyag77
    Varyag77 18 January 2018 20: 30
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    Quote: Alexander War
    To that. Why is preparing and NATO from the United States at our borders! To the war!

    Right As many as 8 vehicles with anti-tank systems. NATO flutters.
  20. rumatam
    rumatam 18 January 2018 20: 39
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    WHO DOES THE OPRESSIANS ARE GOING TO FIGHT WITH? EXPECTED REVOLUTION?
  21. Stiletto_711
    Stiletto_711 18 January 2018 22: 16
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    Also, by the end of the year, the Rosgvardia intends to purchase eight sets of Kornet portable anti-tank missile launchers (ATGMs)

    A torn stump on their collar. The program for this year has already been laid out, there is no Rosguard there. Come in 2019 fellow
  22. Anyone
    Anyone 19 January 2018 10: 40
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    Quote: Alexey RA
    From the same place where they came from in 1991 - they were stolen or bought at army depots ...

    Now they can be bought or stolen at the warehouses of the Russian Guard. What has changed in etlm?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 19 January 2018 11: 58
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      Quote: Anyone
      Now they can be bought or stolen at the warehouses of the Russian Guard. What has changed in etlm?

      There are no tanks in the warehouses of the RG. Since 2006, no.
  23. Anyone
    Anyone 19 January 2018 12: 09
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    Quote: Alexey RA
    There are no tanks in the warehouses of the RG. Since 2006, no.

    Do not carp at owls. Let there be not tanks, but BTR-82. I spoke about something else: that the warehouses of the Russian Guard are no better than the warehouses of the Moscow Region. Who will guard the watchmen?