EP deputy from Estonia: During the meeting, I supposedly visited the USSR

The next meeting of the European Parliament was fully devoted to the “Russian threat”. During the meeting, more than fifty European parliamentarians spoke out for the fact that Russia “unleashed the information war against the West in general and the EU in particular,” and that “this Europe must resist.”

It all began with the speech of the German deputy Rebecca Harms, who said that Russia uses such resources as Russia Today and Sputnik with the goal (hereinafter the direct quote) of "carrying out bloody propaganda interventions (campaigns)."

Many proposed to allocate additional funds to counter the "Russian propaganda." In particular, MEPs announced that funding should go to the accounts of an international group East Stratcom Task Force.

The site contains a statement of the deputy of the EP from Estonia Yana Toom, which stated that such statements reminded her of the information policy of the Soviet Union:

I was born in the USSR and in my childhood I heard about anti-Soviet propaganda every day. If there was no meat, coffee, books and cars in the country, we always knew who was to blame: Western capitalism and personally Ronald Reagan. Today, when the European Union is facing challenges such as the crisis in Catalonia, problems with democratic institutions in member countries and a low level of confidence in the EU as a whole, some of my colleagues know exactly who is to blame: anti-European propaganda and personally Vladimir Putin. As a former journalist, I cannot agree with such a black and white approach.

Yana Toom said that restricting the rights of journalists from various media in the EU will not lead to a positive outcome for the EU. The MEP stresses that the EU today is “dangerously close to making mistakes of the USSR,” in particular, “to the introduction of censorship,” which contradicts European values.

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[Going]

The European MP emphasizes that the EU today is “dangerously close to making USSR mistakes,” in particular “to introducing censorship,” which contradicts European values.

The EU took all the worst that was from the USSR.

[Shura Perm]

The EU is a Nazi project, with all the conclusions that follow from this, they just took Europe with money, not weapons ... so I don’t agree that it is compared with the USSR ...

[Going]

I do not compare him, but in the USSR there were "stupidities" that they successfully adopted.

[bouncyhunter]

This is as always: what is hard to learn good, and bad itself sticks.

[Going]

They just don’t see other tools or they are problematic.

[nikolaev]

what does the USSR have to do with it ?! Aw, wake up. The USSR did not allow d..bilov to broadcast and print in order to protect the country. The ridiculous publicity of the humpbacked ruined this defense, which subsequently led to the collapse of the country. Good newspapers came out, great films were made, talented books were written, brilliant scientists and engineers worked! And abominations, stupidity, betrayal did not give a move!

[nikolaev]

And now, in the fascist EU, the truth about what is happening in BV, Donbas, in the EU itself and in the world in general is being circulated, they are spreading lies, falsifying history, spreading propaganda of abominations, molesting children, and ruining good families. Censorship in the USSR and censorship in the EU are different poles, like good and evil!

[DMoroz]

I absolutely agree that you do not agree. USSR socialist project. EU is capitalism. During the “birth and childhood” of this EP member of parliament, the absence of “meat, coffee, books and cars” was assigned to the Russians, although we practically smeared this window with oil, tearing it from ourselves and living on cards. And now "some of her" colleagues "use absolutely Nazi (Goebbels) methods, blaming the Russians exclusively for this, although these methods have been separated for so long ... Therefore, blaming the worst USSR in this case, she does not question EU policies , and it puts her in failure only in the "anti-European propaganda", in which Vladimir Putin was personally "guilty" ...

[Orionvit]

Quote: DMoroz

USSR socialist project. EU capitalism

By the way, the EU is structurally built in full accordance with the USSR. You forget that people lived there and there, and strangely enough, people have the same basic needs, and on all continents. Just the approach and methodology in the formation of public opinion, sometimes differ in the details, and so everything is the same. And I’ll tell you straight. Everything that was told to us in the Soviet Union about the “decaying west” turned out to be a true truth for verification, and we then, out of our stupidity, laughed, calling it “Kremlin propaganda”. Well, everything is back to square one, only now on the other side.

[DMoroz]

Just the approach and methodology in the formation of public opinion, sometimes differ in the details, and so everything is the same

That's why they say that the devil lies in the details (trifles). Only if the details are different, then the mechanism will not be the same, and the result is unpredictable. The goal is not that. So that

everything returns to normal, only now on the other side.

this is only the outside, although it may be the wrong side ...

[japs]

Looking at our and Russian media, I would like to return the censorship of the times of the USSR. Then half, if not more, of the channels on TV and the newspaper would have to be closed forever ...

[Angler]

But this is not worth it! The forbidden fruit is sweet, and therefore attractive. The same DB, nothing but disgust in normal people do not cause, and therefore little harm from them. Let them continue to throw on the fan, it’s worse only for them. Again, we know our “heroes” in the face, which does not cause any desire except to spit on him.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Monkfish

Again, we know our “heroes” in the face, which does not cause any desire except to spit on him.

Do you think that some “heroes”, in their quest for “democracy”, have lost so much coast that they want to give fashion. So, they got it purely humanly. And some in general, have long worked for the highest measure, even under existing legislation.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Going

The European MP emphasizes that the EU today is “dangerously close to making USSR mistakes,” in particular “to introducing censorship,” which contradicts European values.

The EU took all the worst that was from the USSR.

Not yet taken. So far, only choose. And not from the USSR, but from America.

[iouris]

Quote: Going

The EU took all the worst that was from the USSR.

The EU has never been the USSR, but rather the United States of Europe.

[anjey]

Yana Toom said that infringement of the rights of journalists of various media in the EU would definitely not lead to a positive result for the European Union. MEP stresses that the EU today is "dangerously close to making USSR mistakes"

The EU today is pumped hysterically Russophobia, close to the third Reich of Hitler ....

[Altona]

In the West, a conditionally collective Suslov appeared, which sets the vector of propaganda. By the way, our "propagandists" should also turn away from the "international" to internal problems. The TV and fridge diverge quite strongly in the readings.

[allaykbar]

The TV and fridge diverge quite strongly in the readings.

if you watch TV less, and devote this time to finding work / part-time solutions, you will look and it will become thicker in the refrigerator and it will not matter who the president, prime minister or what happens

PS on TV on the RBC channel they devote a lot of time to what is in the refrigerator of Russian citizens. About the bad officials and the distortions of the judicial / executive systems.

In addition to the RBC channel, Rain and others - there are many radio stations, sites and other media resources on which you can gather the information you need about hunger and cold and tyranny. The benefit of such truth-seekers is very well twisted in YouTube and put them on the tops.

Well, besides all this - there are city portals in every millionaire city - which were bought up in 2012 by our "partners". Just in order to tell citizens about a bad life. Just as they told about this in Tunisia, Libya, Syria and in other corners, where democracy decided to come in the wake of protests against the "open truth about corruption and the lawlessness of the executive branch"

I do not understand your desires. It seems to be flowing information from all angles and the most diverse.

Like on this site, and like everywhere else, in principle.

[Dedall]

When you work as a doctor 72 hours a week, and this is a priori the most highly qualified and highly paid job, but you get only 25 thousand rubles a month, then I'm sorry, but I want to find and punish the culprit. And again, because of the constant work, I go to all kinds of portals there (well, except for the "Military Review").

[S-kerrigan]

a priori the most highly skilled and highly paid work

I do not agree - engineering will be more complicated. IT engineering is even more complicated.
Even a weak AI is able to do a certain segment of the work of surgeons.

[S-kerrigan]

No, of course I was talking about a completely different level: this is when in the operating room there is not a soul, the human body is opened, operated - all entirely by automation, with hydro-pneumatic-servo drives, based on neural networks with the participation of all kinds of sensors, which provide machine vision in the mode real time.

Behind this is a radical future.

[The Siberian barber]

On earth, there is always room for idealists and dreamers. Only, as a rule, they rake a bunch of stones flying in their direction.
Pack your bags, ma'am - they can peck

[Basil50]

Primitive in the mind that the European Parliament, that this former journalist. And why think, strain. It’s simpler for the electorate to make everything clear and simple.
The fact that some allow themselves the irony is not for their electorate, but for the satisfaction of pride and nothing more.
All such speeches show the flawed progress of national cadres. Indeed, with such thinking, not only the Baltic states, but also in other suburbs of the former SOVIET UNION, where the main thing during the career was only * the correct * nationality.

[siberalt]

Well done Yana Toom! Well shamed the brothers in mind from a parallel world.

[zhekazs]

Quote: siberalt

Well shamed the brothers in mind from a parallel world.

Oh well, these are temporary glimpses of a single individual ...

[Serving the Fatherland]

Unfortunately, normal people in the EU have really become a minority! Around some buggers! And their children are taught the same!

[Andy]

Quote: zhekazs

Quote: siberalt

Well shamed the brothers in mind from a parallel world.

Oh well, these are temporary glimpses of a single individual ...

you and such a spawn was not. look who is Yana Toom before you open your mouth, Mr. Zhekas

[Dormidont]

Let not hope. We won’t feed them anymore

[Zubr]

He has done good things for the EU, a snout in the cannon, and they don’t want to admit mistakes, let alone work on them. And now, not one Dunce, never whipped himself on the ass.

[Russia]

It also happens to be pregnant. (And it’s as if she had visited the USSR)

[novel66]

garbage, will resolve

[rocket757]

This contradicts not some values ​​there, but the very existence of a single geyropa !!!
In short, the cat gave birth to kittens at .... and then you can develop a "thought" !!!

[Anyone]

Quote: Shura Perm

EU is a Nazi project ...

And what is "Nazi" in it? Or are you just rushing in terms?

[Herculesic]

“European values” - this phrase has long sounded like a mockery of common sense! !! Tired, worse than a bitter radish! !!

[pepel]

"... in particular," the introduction of censorship, "which contradicts European values." - censorship does not contradict European values, since it limits only RT and Sputnik. The rights of fagots and other values ​​are not censored, so Madame Toom therefore may not be worried.

[Andy]

yes for you she actually does not worry, copulate on health, Mr. ashes

[Altona]

Quote: allaykbar

if you watch TV less, and devote this time to finding work / part-time solutions, you will look and it will become thicker in the refrigerator and it will not matter who the president, prime minister or what happens

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No need to duplicate your nonsense about the "side job". Do you see yourself from the outside? I can offer you to open a meat market in a dying city or village. Why give deliberately stupid advice. Not only do you live in the world as you are busy and business "muscovites" like you. There are women, youth, pensioners with a small pension. You can "devote" and "search" for work. But only if you are thrown for money or thrown out in shorts from a shift train, will you still give such advice? So I advise you to cover up such a stream of your cleverness and not broadcast it unnecessarily.
PS And if you are so-and-so. Looking for work in a small town, and I, as your former employer, will tell everyone that you are incompetent, non-living, uneducated, without imagination. How fast will you find a job? Then tell me.
PPS For those especially smart ones like you, I once again inform you that I live in a single-industry town with a population of 60 thousand people and I don’t need to trend about "million-plus cities." For you, I can inform you that the salary in a Russian millionaire rarely exceeds 30 thousand rubles. But you probably don’t know about it, because you manage to play 10 high-paying balalaikas.

[allaykbar]

Not only do you live in the world as you are busy and business "muscovites" like you.

well, and not only those who are empty in the refrigerator and who constantly talk about this on the forum as a marshal. (i.e. you have spent enough time on the forum to achieve "success")

But only if you are thrown for money or thrown out in shorts from a shift train, will you still give such advice?

Well, I won’t choose a job for you where they don’t throw money and pay a white salary.

And if you are so-and-so. Looking for work in a small town, and I, as your former employer, will tell everyone that you are incompetent, non-living, illiterate, without imagination. How fast will you find a job? Then tell me.

I got up and found work in a nearby town. I did not like the salary of 12 in my single-industry town, where there was a single closed enterprise. He also went to study courses - being with a university diploma
And I found time and found the means. I think, if you wanted, you could also learn something new. Yes, and now you can start, instead of typing me the answer.

For you, I can inform you that the salary in a Russian millionaire rarely exceeds 30 thousand rubles.

and if you work as a security guard it will be even less. And if you learn a programming language, you will sit at home and earn 10 times more.

All you need is desire and the Internet. I don’t know about the first one. But the Internet is right at your fingertips.

[Dedall]

You are our dear! I can say that one so smart, like you, not only got to another city, but also began to live in London, but they hanged him, smart hearted, in a bathroom on a tie. Take care of yourself!
As for programming knowledge, I wrote BASIC programs back in 1985. Then he studied dBASE, C and Pascal. But the only thing is that in our country under such rulers nobody needs all this. As in that joke: "The wrong country was called Honduras."

[S-kerrigan]

Hands from the right place? Ok, then run for retraining - Java Enterprise is waiting for workers in any country of the "first" and "second" world (that is, in the Russian Federation).

But the only thing is that in our country, with such rulers, nobody needs all this

And this is wonderful! For languages ​​are outdated and nowhere where they fight for progress, this is not necessary.

[allaykbar]

I wrote BASIC programs back in 1985. Then he studied dBASE, C and Pascal.

it’s clear why you are not doing very well

It was necessary not to stop, but to study further.

[HMR333]

this is when she did not have meat and coffee and cars)))) let the boys pour out what she eats)))

[freddyk]

If the country did not have meat, coffee, books and cars

I wonder what I ate, drank in the morning before work, what I worked on, and what did I read in the evenings?

[svp67]

Yes, and where Estonia does not go, everything falls into the USSR, maybe it wasn’t worth leaving the real USSR

[23424636]

what can I say, well done At least one said something about the rotten west. .Estonians are ahead in their perception of the other world, which is hostile to the conspiracy of two scumbags Gorbi and the Red Fox (Shevardnadze) gave this Russian land conquered from the Swedes by Peter the Great, to some idiots who are not shy about opening their airfields for US fighters ..

[Altona]

Quote: allaykbar

well, and not only those who are empty in the refrigerator and who constantly talk about this on the forum as a marshal. (i.e. you have spent enough time on the forum to achieve "success")
and if you work as a security guard it will be even less. And if you learn a programming language, you will sit at home and earn 10 times more.

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I can post a photo of what is inside my refrigerator, I think you will envy, because I have a lot of things there. How much time and what I spend on is absolutely none of your business. And especially not your business how much I earn. If you think unemployment is normal, then I don’t think it is normal and I never will.
I know several programmers and just IT employees. Almost all of them wait for a modest salary and buy goods on Ali Express. There is such a thing as the labor market and there they will pay you as much as they currently pay. If you have any super skills, then you need to turn your product into a well-developed product, and it’s difficult to implement a good promotion. Moreover, there are large companies that already have a similar product and it is unlikely that they will agree to provide you with a worthy niche, which, however, does not cancel your abilities.

[APASUS]

Yana Toom said that restricting the rights of journalists from various media in the EU will not lead to a positive outcome for the EU. The MEP stresses that the EU today is “dangerously close to making mistakes of the USSR,” in particular, “to the introduction of censorship,” which contradicts European values.

Even the brakes have insight, why would it?