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In Syria, the C-200 air defense system shot down several Israeli missiles

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The air defense system C-200 "Vega-E" has recently been most often activated by air defense units of the Syrian army, writes Messenger of Mordovia.


In Syria, the C-200 air defense system shot down several Israeli missiles


A video of the night use of this long-range system, dated January 9, appeared on the Web.

“Aircraft of the Israeli Air Force, being in the sky over Lebanon, attacked objects in Syria. As a result of the response, several Israeli air-to-surface missiles and two ground-to-ground missiles were shot down, according to Dmitry Lemeshko, referring to SANA.

The video shows the launch of the rocket and its flight in the sky. “Of course, it’s impossible to draw any conclusions about the effectiveness of this launch,” he notes.

Nevertheless, experts note that the rather old Soviet development, thanks to the professionalism of the Syrian military personnel, still retains its combat potential.



According to the author, prior to the beginning of the civil war and foreign intervention, Syria could easily upgrade the C-200 air defense system with the help of countries that continue to exploit this weapon.

Video here.
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  1. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 18 January 2018 12: 00
    19
    Shot down the S-200? - Sit Israel in place! smile
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          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 18 January 2018 13: 17
            14
            They will not rush, but say that all they kill are terrorists, by definition, because Israel is killing them.
            In response, a blow-no-no, this is racism, anti-Semitism and generally a violation of all rights.
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          2. Maz
            Maz 18 January 2018 14: 00
            +7
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            You provаcator!

            Nerves, or a hangover tremor? wink


            There is the last day of the working week of “Yom Khameshi” - in the evening there is a great danger of accidents, accidents, and incidents. Jewish people are tired of five days of work and nerves play pranks on yom shishi and Shabbat laughing and vodka, anti-stress, you can’t drink - they will be poisoned. laughing
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            2. Hanokem
              Hanokem 19 January 2018 01: 27
              +4
              Maz, you still don’t know everything. S-200 shot down three F-35s, a sensation. And a child prodigy is an expensive thing, so you have to cut back your allowance from leumi beet
        3. Shura Perm
          Shura Perm 18 January 2018 12: 17
          19
          You’re not climbing into your territory, then you’ll download more rights ...
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 18 January 2018 13: 01
            +4
            Quote: Shura Perm
            You’re not climbing into your territory, then you’ll download more rights ...

            )))))
            Especially when this territory is occupied by a state that is at war with Israel;)
        4. 100502
          100502 18 January 2018 12: 41
          18
          We then know what kind of Jews you are fighters for tolerance, only you can all sing about it, although you yourself do exactly the opposite
        5. Piramidon
          Piramidon 18 January 2018 12: 58
          +6
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: Shura Perm
          Scha Jews will run to protect their fellow tribesmen

          The derogatory writing of the people is a provocation of a flame! You are a provocateur!

          The first one spewed right there.
    2. Chertt
      Chertt 18 January 2018 12: 30
      12
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      Shot down the S-200?

      In fact, such a serious statement must necessarily be supported by facts. Otherwise, we run the risk of slipping to western faknewsu
      1. opus
        opus 18 January 2018 14: 33
        +7
        Quote: Chertt
        Such a serious statement must necessarily be supported by facts. Otherwise we run the risk of slipping to western fakenews.

        This is a statement from the Syrians
        Syrian air defense forces launched an S-200 rocket against an Israeli aircraft that aimed at the Al-Qalamoun region 9 / 1 / 2018. According to the Syrian Defense Ministry, the rocket managed to hit the target.

        Al Qalamun area 200 / 9 / 1.
        According to the Syrian MoD
        voiced by the blogger Wael Al Hussaini.
        do we have something to do with it?
      2. Romulus
        Romulus 19 January 2018 00: 04
        +2
        Quote: Chertt

        8
        Chertt Today, 12:30 ↑ New
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Shot down the S-200?

        In fact, such a serious statement must necessarily be supported by facts. Otherwise, we run the risk of slipping to western faknewsu

        It's right.
        The video shows the launch of a rocket and its flight in the sky. “Of course, according to the frames seen, it is impossible to draw any conclusions about how effective this launch was,” he notes.
        Actually, this did not start fake news ended ...
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 18 January 2018 16: 49
      +1
      Quote: SRC P-15
      Shot down the S-200? - Sit Israel in place! smile


      What are you))) Now they’ll tear farts there ...
  2. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 18 January 2018 12: 01
    14
    Can you see at least one fragment from an Israeli rocket? Now, when RA air defense knocks something down, then debris from downed vehicles is shown. And here are just words.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 18 January 2018 12: 04
      +7
      Not always show, do not lie.
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 18 January 2018 13: 03
        +7
        Quote: Muvka
        Can you see at least one piece of an Israeli rocket?

        Contact Peta Powder for the display of debris. He arranges for inexpensive. laughing If you pay dearly, then his display of your debris may take place from the UN rostrum. laughing
    2. Maz
      Maz 18 January 2018 14: 06
      14
      And can you see how revelations came to Moses about chosenness, peculiarity and so on?
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 18 January 2018 20: 27
        +3
        Quote: Maz
        And can you see how revelations came to Moses about chosenness, peculiarity and so on?

        With this to the Patriarch.
    3. opus
      opus 18 January 2018 15: 20
      +7
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Can you see at least one piece of an Israeli rocket?

      Israel’s Air-to-Surface Missiles
      1.AGM-142 Have Nap
      Weight: 1360 kg
      Warhead: high-explosive fragmentation or penetrating I-800
      Weight of warhead: 340 or 360 kg
      Swipe: 1,98 m
      Length: 4,83 m
      Width: 0,53 m
      Distance: 80 km
      Engine: RDTT
      Guidance INS + IR / TV GOS

      / in my opinion you do not even have carriers for it, I do not know if you still have F-4 /
      Air Force Video Yu.Korei, but not the essence

      2.IMI MARS supersonic
      Range, km 100
      Length, mm 4400
      Diameter, mm 306
      Weight, kg 500

      The rocket is integrated into the F-16 ″ Fighting Falcon, F-15 “Eagle” / ”Strike Eagle” and F / A-18 “Hornet” / “Super Hornet” fighter jets. The manufacturer plans to integrate MARS into the Su-24, Su-25, Su-27, Su-30, MiG-29 aircraft systems, as well as the French Mirage 2000 fighter.

      3.SkySniper
      Weight 900 kg
      4 meter length
      speed - Mach 3,5,
      range - 250 km.


      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      show fragments from downed vehicles. And here are just words.

      You want, that after successful interception


      Are there any scraps?
      There is a warhead 13B6

      what
      We and after exposure OFBCH 5B14Sh
      filled up 87,6 ... 91 kg of explosive and equipped 37 000 spherical striking elements of two diametersincluding 21 000 elements with weight 3,5 g and 16 000 with weight 2 g,that ensured a reliable defeat of targets when firing on a collision course and in pursuit. The angle of the spatial sector of the static dispersal of the fragments was 120 °, the speed of their dispersion was -1000 ... 1700 m / s.

      Scattered IL-28 hard to find.
      And the interception of OTR 8K14 (in field conditions: they knew where they were looking for by radio tags)


      You want a lot from the Syrians (search for evidence).
      Rejoice that the F-16 and F-35 (I really want to try the penguin) do not knock down Hel Ha'Avir, ....


      BYE do not knock
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      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 18 January 2018 15: 36
        +3
        Quote: Shura Perm
        Rejoice, Jew, they’ll ban me))) the administration with the Jews arranged a gay club on the site ...

        Urgently rest! Sanatorium, water procedures .. you have a nervous breakdown, my friend.
    5. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 18 January 2018 16: 50
      +3
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Can you see at least one fragment from an Israeli rocket? Now, when RA air defense knocks something down, then debris from downed vehicles is shown. And here are just words.


      Can. Look at your health. We do not mind.
  3. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 18 January 2018 12: 06
    14
    Debris of downed missiles after all fell on Syrian territory?
    When intercepting, the entire tail section of the downed rocket usually falls to the ground.
    easily damaged (rumpled only).
    It is not difficult for Syrians to allow journalists to photograph such fragments.
    1. just exp
      just exp 18 January 2018 12: 17
      10
      here, in general, I agree, and there are no debris (but they are not always shown) and the fact that the S-200 worked on SD (they seem to have different goals even in the calculation).
      generally a weird statement.
      but there is another reason to think. why did Israel find no other goals?
      it was possible to bomb Jordan, or to gasp for the Saudis.
      1. max702
        max702 18 January 2018 12: 38
        +4
        Quote: just explo
        Well, or the Saudis gasp.

        What for? Saud and so they keep all the money in THEIR banks ...
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 18 January 2018 13: 07
        +8
        Israel bombed, as usual, warehouses and convoys with Hezbollah’s weapons.
        Weapons or Syrian, or Iranian.
        Warehouses are often located on the territory of the military bases of the Syrian army.

        If there were warehouses in the countries you listed
        with missiles for Hezbollah, then they would have bombed there too.
        We bombed arms depots and missile plants even in Sudan - quite far from us.
        1. SlavaS
          SlavaS 18 January 2018 13: 58
          +3
          and if in the USA?
        2. abc_alex
          abc_alex 18 January 2018 14: 05
          +8
          But tell me, how does Israel distinguish Hezbollah’s warehouses “on the territory of the Syrian army’s military bases” from the Syrian army’s warehouses “on the territory of the Syrian army’s military bases” ???? Are they specially painted for your scouts in blue? Or do you want to say that you have 10 spies in each hezbollah?
          Or maybe any broken warehouse of the Syrian army "in the territory of the military bases of the Syrian army" becomes Hezbollah’s warehouse automatically? :)
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 18 January 2018 14: 28
            +7
            "how Israel distinguishes Hezbollah’s warehouses" on the territory of the Syrian army’s military bases "
            from the warehouses of the Syrian army "////

            With intelligence, buddy! fellow
            1. abc_alex
              abc_alex 18 January 2018 16: 24
              +7
              That is, you just do not provide evidence that it was Hezbollah who bombed the warehouse, just as the Syrians do not provide evidence of downed missiles. Israel and Syria play the same cards on this issue. :)

              I believe that every second Hezbollah’s warehouse may well turn out to be the warehouse of the Syrian army. :)
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 18 January 2018 17: 38
                +4
                Syrians have never complained that they were bombed
                warehouses of their army. Because there’s nothing to complain about. The weapon did not belong to them.
                That's when the artillery several times jammed Syrian firing points near
                Golan (otvetki) - they - yes - expressed indignation, since the Syrian military personnel suffered.
                1. abc_alex
                  abc_alex 21 January 2018 22: 21
                  0
                  So Israel does not require confirmation of the downing. :)
          2. demo
            demo 19 January 2018 11: 51
            +1
            Arabs are in essence merchants. And to sell the homeland is not a sin.
            A hundred or two shekels (dollars, pounds, etc.) the pocket does not pull.
            And Israel always knew with what key these doors open.
            Arabs put beacons on those buildings where the rocket should fly.
            It's simple.
            If you didn’t catch the hand at the time of bookmarking, then everything is ok!
            If caught, then not ok!

            Although everything is prosaically simple. Place a radio emission scanner in the area of ​​100-200 meters when a new source appears, it is instantly clear - this is a friend of Israel. You can quench gavrika.
        3. opus
          opus 18 January 2018 16: 48
          +9
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Israel bombed, as usual, warehouses and convoys with Hezbollah’s weapons.
          Weapons or Syrian, or Iranian.

          words, words ... not confirmed ничем

          The bombing of a Syrian object in Al-Kibar by Israeli air forces has been shrouded in mystery for months.
          Exactly on 22.45 on the evening of September 5, the 2007 of the year, ten Israeli F-15 aircraft took off from one of the military airfields. Each of them carried an AGM-65 rocket with a 500 kilogram warhead. Near the Syrian border, three aircraft fell behind - the whole time of the operation they were to be in the air, but over Israeli territory.

          Seven continued flight already in Syrian airspace. After a few seconds, the first F-15 fired a missile on the Syrian radar. The hit was direct, the Syrian air defense was blind. Less than 20 minutes later, the planes bombed the reactor. All the AGM-65 fell exactly into the building, which turned into a pile of ruins. Twenty minutes later, ten F-15 landed safely on their base.

          Near the runway pilots awaited their comrades with a bottle of champagne.
          Shortly after the bombing in Turkey, additional fuel tanks dropped by Israeli aircraft were discovered. Western media also reported on Israeli special forces units that had been in Syria for a long time and about a spy that was deployed on a nuclear facility under construction.


          Operation Opera (Hebrew מבצע אוֹפֵּרָה), also known as Operation Babylon, is a military operation conducted by the Israeli Air Force to destroy the Osirak nuclear reactor of French production in Iraq in June 1981.

          All this
          Quote: voyaka uh
          as usual, warehouses and convoys with Hezbollah’s weapons.

          belay
          Response fool

          Can this
          Nuclear Research Center in Dimona Heb. הקריה למחקר גרעיני is an Israeli research center.

          Located near the town of Dimona.

          Opened in 1964 year. The center conducts research in various fields of physics. In the period from 1957 to 1964, a heavy water reactor (IRR-2) was built on natural uranium with the assistance of French firms. About 36 Israeli and French workers participated in the construction of the 1500 km² area. The reactor power is 28 megawatts. In the 1970-ies with the help of France, he was upgraded.

          Not under the control of the IAEA.

          In 1986, Mordechai Vanunu, a former technician at the Dimona center who emigrated from Israel, provided the British media with some information about Israel’s nuclear program [1]. It is alleged that the center is used to produce weapons-grade plutonium; various sources indicate that the annual output ranges from 15 to 40 — 60 kg, and that Israel produced 2003 — 510 kg of plutonium before 650. The official Israel does not confirm or deny this information (for more, see the article Nuclear Weapons of Israel).


          Too wipe?
          BOMB TO BABEN?
          After all
          Israel has not signed the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons

          Officially, the leadership of Israel has for many years been pursuing a policy called “nuclear uncertainty”, under which the existence of a nuclear arsenal is not confirmed, but it is not denied. However, most experts do not doubt the existence of Israeli nuclear forces, built on the basis of the classical "nuclear triad". The development and production of Jericho-2 missile delivery vehicles in the country, potentially capable of delivering the nuclear potential over distances greater than 1 thousand km, as well as the presence of a submarine fleet consisting of three modern diesel submarines armed with long-range cruise missiles can be considered as an indirect confirmation of this. .

          For many years, Israel has refused to accede to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) as a non-nuclear state and extend the IAEA safeguards to all its nuclear facilities. 25 September 1996. The Israeli government has signed the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT), but so far did not take steps to ratify it.

          Israel is seen as the main opponent of the creation of a nuclear-weapon-free zone in the Middle East.


          How the USSR was going to destroy Israel with a nuclear strike at 1968
          In March, the USSR 1968 sent a nuclear submarine K-172 to the shores of Syria with the aim of launching a nuclear missile strike on Israel and Lebanon.


          In 1967-1968, the nuclear missile commander, Captain I rank Nikolai Shashkov, had to complete missions in the hottest area of ​​the planet - the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea against the backdrop of the Arab-Israeli conflict. It is no secret that the USSR not only morally supported its Arab friends then, but also provided them with military assistance.
          I have no doubt that Captain I rank Nikolai Shashkov would have executed any command order if local conflict had grown to global dimensions.
          a.
          Admiral of the fleet Vladimir Chernavin.
          1. KKND
            KKND 18 January 2018 17: 02
            +1
            Anton, you don’t tell the people with your anger, but sit down at the C-200 remote control, and there we will see what your words are in “deed”.
            1. opus
              opus 18 January 2018 17: 27
              +2
              Quote: KKND
              and sit down at the C-200 console, and then we’ll see what your words are worth in the “case”.

              do not take.
              They say the old, and even with cerebral palsy (crossed out) with the group.
              Commissioned to clean, removed from the balance.
              But there are thoughts, as promised to fantasize, how to help the Syrians humiliate Hel ha'Avir
              it hurts them (see the word highlighted in bold and yellow declination in the answer "what are they doing?)
              Ilya Terentich! Forgetting the second prisoner commandment: not get pissed off..

              / A.I. Solzhenitsyn, “In the first circle”, 1968 g

              The word, of course, refers to coarse (but not obscene) vocabulary. At least in the present and in the interpretation in which it was used by Solzhenitsyn
              Shl. ban is not necessary, tse classics
              1. KKND
                KKND 18 January 2018 18: 37
                0
                Quote: opus
                But there are thoughts, as promised to fantasize, how to help the Syrians humiliate Hel ha'Avir

                Hard, we need more or less decent evidence. The wreckage is there. So far, the Syrians are extremely weak.
                1. opus
                  opus 18 January 2018 19: 21
                  +3
                  Quote: KKND
                  Heavy,

                  very much hotz penguin fill up !!!
                  And where is it found in the swamps of the Leningrad region,
                  current in Israel, they are found so far.
                  Norwegian then do not fly to us.
                  Quote: KKND
                  need proof more or less decent.


                  I wrote above:
                  https://topwar.ru/134039-v-sirii-zrk-s-200-sbil-n
                  eskolko-izrailskih-raket.html # comment-id-7785980
                  not even from AGM-142 Have Nap (not to mention IMI MARS and SkySniper) after a successful interception, after the kiss of the 13B6 warhead, no one will find, even more so in Syria (this is not a civilian polygon, you should carry out a search operation)

                  Quote: KKND
                  So far, the Syrians are extremely weak.

                  boom to teach
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 18 January 2018 17: 03
            +6
            "CLEAR ALSO?
            BOMB to beats? "////

            Wow! What big letters ... belay
            The state of Syria and the state of Israel are officially located
            at war for 50 years.
            Therefore, your perturbations are not very clear ... War.
            We ensure our safety as we can.
            What we wish you! fellow
            1. opus
              opus 18 January 2018 17: 32
              +3
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Therefore, your perturbations are not very clear ... War.

              Well, do not be offended and do not moan, if you arrive.
              And when the thread arrives


              Shukshin "I choose a village residence"


              [quoteOnly he grieved in the city, then he looked closer and realized: if a little wit, cunning and especially if you don't get pissed offthen it is not necessary to dig these pits, it is possible to live easier. ] [/ quote]
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 19 January 2018 00: 55
                +2
                "well, do not be offended and do not moan if you arrive." ////

                You, with your erudition, should know that thousands of enemy missiles have already flown to us. And Points from Syria, and Scuds from Iraq, and Grads and the like from Lebanon and Gaza. For this reason, the army command prefers to deal with the missile arsenals of the enemy in advance. While the rockets are still in stock.
                And do not burst on the streets of cities. And I agree with this concept.
                1. opus
                  opus 19 January 2018 11: 18
                  +4
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  And the points from Syria, and Scuds from Iraq, and Grada and the like from Lebanon and Gaza.

                  Let's flies from cutlets we are separating.
                  Point and Scud, there was a war (although I am absolutely against the shelling of civilians)
                  Grads (self-made) is terrorism.
                  Now you are hitting a bedridden, you know that there will be no otvetku, you are hitting “preventively”, just like that (you don’t understand the idea: you don’t need the whole state close by, goals are all there, etc.)

                  You just freak out Iran (Hezbol, weapons, missiles, the IRGC).
                  There you can get an answer.
                  And yes, it is possible for Syria, the more so all the "world co-existence" (with the exception of the "rogue") for this.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 19 January 2018 23: 29
                    +2
                    "Iran, you just want to strike" ///

                    Oh, what brave men give us advice ... Something I did not see the slightest "answer" when the Turks shot down a Russian plane and publicly shot the pilot.
                    Why? (Turkey, a strong army, their straits, aviation - can pile on lyuley). smile

                    "Now you beat the recumbent" ////

                    If we wanted to kill Assad, we would have done it a long time ago - with one point airstrike. And in the presidential palace there would be bearded barmels, and from Khmeimim there would be an evacuation. But we do not need it, it is not profitable.
                    Therefore, Israel very delicately teaches Hezbollah in Syria, but does not touch the Syrian army and Assad. It is a pity that you do not understand this.
        4. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 18 January 2018 16: 53
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Israel bombed, as usual, warehouses and convoys with Hezbollah’s weapons.
          Weapons or Syrian, or Iranian.
          Warehouses are often located on the territory of the military bases of the Syrian army.

          If there were warehouses in the countries you listed
          with missiles for Hezbollah, then they would have bombed there too.
          We bombed arms depots and missile plants even in Sudan - quite far from us.


          Well, that is, you do not deny and agree that this is the state terror of Israel. What then is your country worse than the American terrorists who eat people?
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 18 January 2018 16: 57
            +4
            Comrade, you were not taught in the courses to distinguish terror from military operations. We have a kind of war with Syria.
          2. KKND
            KKND 18 January 2018 17: 00
            +2
            Israel is clearly better than terrorists! They have good planes, tanks, air defense. Whoever has war against Israel, let him fight with him, and then tell them whether they are good or bad.
        5. Maz
          Maz 18 January 2018 20: 49
          +2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Israel bombed, as usual, warehouses and convoys with Hezbollah’s weapons.
          Weapons or Syrian, or Iranian.
          Warehouses are often located on the territory of the military bases of the Syrian army.

          If there were warehouses in the countries you listed
          with missiles for Hezbollah, then they would have bombed there too.
          We bombed arms depots and missile plants even in Sudan - quite far from us.

          Warrior, well, they will respond to us in Israel with another terrorist attack. You understand that you yourself send death to your citizens through Hamas right there, PLO cells, al-Aqsa defense wings ... Or, as Aron told you, to hell with them? The stick is about two ends.? Shaw, go buy a shocker with a spray can, or a patish hammer on a long handle? I saw a joke, the supermarket manager gave clubs to the guards.
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 18 January 2018 21: 23
            +2
            Quote: Maz

            Warrior, well, they will respond to us in Israel with another terrorist attack.
            do not cling to us.

            You understand that you yourself send death to your citizens through Hamas right there, PLO cells, al-Aqsa defense wings ... Or, as Aron told you, to hell with them? The stick is about two ends.? Shaw, go buy a shocker with a spray can, or a patish hammer on a long handle? I saw a joke, the supermarket manager gave clubs to the guards.

            It’s best for you to never come to Israel.
            1. Maz
              Maz 18 January 2018 23: 22
              +1
              Already, for a long time, even better, and I won’t ask you. Aron, you are our golden colleague. Never say never. Yeah, it’s not all the same for you countryman. You are worried. And damn you with them at all. There is hope.
        6. Grits
          Grits 19 January 2018 07: 18
          +1
          Israel bombed, as usual, warehouses and convoys with Hezbollah’s weapons.
          Izril bombed the territory of a sovereign state as usual. And from the territory of another sovereign state. And do you still consider such meanness an honor? Do not be surprised after that that everyone in the world hates you
    2. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 18 January 2018 13: 56
      +3
      depending on how many balls rake the target ...
      It was possible to see training goals, shreds of aluminum, sometimes fragments of rudders and planes ..
      In oncoming courses at such speeds, the PE rips the target into rags ...
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 18 January 2018 22: 03
        +1
        In general, judging by the frames, the rocket simply fell apart at launch.
    3. opus
      opus 18 January 2018 15: 29
      +4
      Quote: voyaka uh
      When intercepting, the entire tail section of the downed rocket usually falls to the ground.

      This is if the carcass of a tactical missile was operational.
      and depending on which warhead


      it happens and the head parts remain and oxidizer tanks

      and there is steel 2mm!
      What do you want from your puny air-to-surface missiles.
      Threat.
      Show the remnants of the "successful" interception of OTR "Scud" by Patriot complexes ...
      and we laugh
    4. Dalailama
      Dalailama 18 January 2018 15: 42
      +1
      It is you that you did not violate international law and they were not fired upon?
    5. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 18 January 2018 16: 51
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Debris of downed missiles after all fell on Syrian territory?
      When intercepting, the entire tail section of the downed rocket usually falls to the ground.
      easily damaged (rumpled only).
      It is not difficult for Syrians to allow journalists to photograph such fragments.


      You need ? So look for the wreckage itself.
    6. opus
      opus 19 January 2018 11: 24
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      It is not difficult for Syrians to allow journalists to photograph such fragments.

      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Can you see at least one piece of an Israeli rocket?

      Do not they happen?






      But these photos from 2014 ...
  4. Egorovich
    Egorovich 18 January 2018 12: 08
    18
    Again htrozh.opye Jews climb into the territory of a foreign state. They can’t sleep well. Well now at least in the face began to receive periodically.
    1. stone
      stone 18 January 2018 12: 35
      +5
      Receive in the face so far solely on bravura statements. The video just launches a rocket. Where are the debris?
      1. Maz
        Maz 18 January 2018 20: 54
        +2
        Go look. Or do you think saa affairs are no longer in the civil war?
    2. Shahno
      Shahno 18 January 2018 17: 01
      +2
      But what a foreign state the world does not conclude. Or are afraid of the Golan about .. fukat.
  5. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 18 January 2018 12: 12
    11
    But isn’t it too fat to shoot on air-to-ground?
    It’s easier to buy special warheads for Vega and immediately mock on a constant source of threats.
  6. jekasimf
    jekasimf 18 January 2018 12: 14
    +7
    I’m wondering where did Dmitry Lemeshko, the leading specialist of the leading website of the “Messenger of Mordovia” get such information ?!
    With 200, little is capable of shooting down a modern aircraft, in particular an Israeli one, so now it suddenly started to shoot rockets !!! What is it, let’s say, completely incapable of.
    I would rather believe that the missiles were shot down by the Shells that cover the 200 launchers.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 18 January 2018 12: 26
      +6
      Quote: jekasimf
      With 200, little is capable of shooting down a modern aircraft, in particular an Israeli one, so now it suddenly started to shoot rockets !!! What is it, let’s say, completely incapable of.

      I agree. Such unconfirmed statements drop confidence and put the Russian media on a par with Western fakeNews. You can provide evidence, better shut up
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    3. abc_alex
      abc_alex 18 January 2018 14: 44
      +2
      This is why the S-200 missiles cannot bring down a modern aircraft? Religious views will not allow? :)
      Subject to quality third-party target designation.
  7. q75agent
    q75agent 18 January 2018 12: 15
    +4
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Debris of downed missiles after all fell on Syrian territory?
    When intercepting, the entire tail section of the downed rocket usually falls to the ground.
    easily damaged (rumpled only).
    It is not difficult for Syrians to allow journalists to photograph such fragments.
    Reply Quote Complaint

    The people in Syria are in poverty, everyone is quickly dragging color meta to collection points wink official authorities cannot collect and take fragments bully
    1. HAM
      HAM 18 January 2018 12: 38
      +4
      You can’t imagine how right: an eyewitness from Ukraine told me that when there were intense battles with tanks, the people still took apart the warm, lined tanks for scrap, they dragged everything they could ... so it’s kind of a joke.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 January 2018 13: 05
      +2
      Quote: q75agent
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Debris of downed missiles after all fell on Syrian territory?
      When intercepting, the entire tail section of the downed rocket usually falls to the ground.
      easily damaged (rumpled only).
      It is not difficult for Syrians to allow journalists to photograph such fragments.
      Reply Quote Complaint

      The people in Syria are in poverty, everyone is quickly dragging color meta to collection points wink official authorities cannot collect and take fragments bully

      I agree. They also sell land there - the Golan sold to Israel ...))))
      1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
        Crane operator Nahamkinson 18 January 2018 13: 15
        +7
        I agree.
        You also sold your homeland.
        And more than once you sell.
        And nothing....))))))
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 18 January 2018 13: 38
          0
          Quote: Crane Operator Nahamkinson
          I agree.
          You also sold your homeland.
          And more than once you sell.
          And nothing....))))))

          This is to whom I sold and where is the money? ))))
          1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
            Crane operator Nahamkinson 18 January 2018 13: 43
            +5
            And where did the Syrians share the money,
            from the sale of the Golan ...?))))
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 18 January 2018 14: 07
              0
              Quote: Crane Operator Nahamkinson
              And where did the Syrians share the money,
              from the sale of the Golan ...?))))

              There, where and the money for the sold-in-color metal debris from a downed Israeli rocket))))
            2. gukoyan
              gukoyan 18 January 2018 14: 14
              +1
              "And where did the Syrians give money,
              from the sale of the Golan ...?)))) "

              The officials drank))))
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 18 January 2018 14: 53
                0
                Quote: gukoyan
                "And where did the Syrians give money,
                from the sale of the Golan ...?)))) "

                The officials drank))))

                Drank)))
  8. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 18 January 2018 12: 20
    +9
    Here's the question: for what reason was the blow struck? For what purpose?
    Well, the fact that they shot down ...
    They did absolutely right. Israel would do the same. Why is Syria worse than Israel?
    1. 100502
      100502 18 January 2018 12: 38
      +7
      They just have to spoil this way of life for everyone, history is a witness to that
  9. Livonetc
    Livonetc 18 January 2018 12: 22
    0
    Quote: Ace Tambourine
    But isn’t it too fat to shoot on air-to-ground?
    It’s easier to buy special warheads for Vega and immediately mock on a constant source of threats.

    And why are they especially still bullet?
    In general, how effective can this air defense system be today?
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 18 January 2018 13: 44
      +3
      200ka another 10 years will be effective ... although, of course, the life of a rocket does not last forever ...
      But 300 and 400 are far from the group goal, as well as the warhead. And TSU, as correctly noted below, can come from the side ...
  10. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 18 January 2018 12: 24
    0
    Well, sooo doubtful
  11. sleeve
    sleeve 18 January 2018 12: 46
    +7
    Well, why immediately tales? Well, what if a launch from a dense warrant with a "bold" exposure on the radar (in addition, target designation generally from s-300 or s-400) can happen? Suddenly, there is no maneuvering at the flight site? (And what for? According to the "Bushmen" they fire, all-conquering high technologies) ... Well then: "group target, distance, height, speed ..." and 220 kg warhead from the S-200 they will even demolish the AGM-142 Have Nap in the trash, especially if they go out on the oncoming ones ... There's also a general touch speed of almost "hypersound" and under 40 thousand fragments ... Well, how much can you do with 2 200 tons in the approach area if you have a dense racket group start up, and air defense for example to breed 100 meters?))
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 18 January 2018 13: 48
      +1
      I completely agree ... all the more, the warhead undermining occurs 60m from the target, and this is the addition of the counter speeds + additional speed from the warhead explosion.
      Tokmo is remembered by EMNIP at 200ki 27000 PE. Or is it 75ki? ... Sclerosis, years ...
  12. sleeve
    sleeve 18 January 2018 12: 50
    +4
    Not ... Of course it would be interesting to listen to the reaction of the brotherly people of Israel to a message like "in response to the treacherous attack on objects on the territory of the SAR, the Syrian aviation struck the air base ... such and such." But it’s somehow strange, the basic idea in the discussion is “hit-miss,” but “what kind of bolt are you creating, friends, comrades?” it sounds weak ...
  13. Azazelo
    Azazelo 18 January 2018 12: 55
    0
    Beauties !!!
  14. Zubr
    Zubr 18 January 2018 13: 05
    +1
    I’m wondering how many C-200 missiles were used up? All the same, not a business pleasure.
  15. morituri
    morituri 18 January 2018 13: 58
    +2
    Takeaway brain! Israel attacks the territory of another state, and all languages ​​in the ass assassinated!
  16. ioan-e
    ioan-e 18 January 2018 14: 01
    +2
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Israel bombed, as usual, warehouses and convoys with Hezbollah’s weapons.
    Weapons or Syrian, or Iranian.
    Warehouses are often located on the territory of the military bases of the Syrian army.

    If there were warehouses in the countries you listed
    with missiles for Hezbollah, then they would have bombed there too.
    We bombed arms depots and missile plants even in Sudan - quite far from us.

    I have only one question?
    Jews bomb someone else's property on foreign territory, do not hide it and the Americans are silent about this!
    Russia does not bomb Ukraine, which threatens to destroy Russia. All globalhocks, Poseidons and satellites from orbit cannot provide evidence of an invasion, and Russia is still an aggressor, according to Amers!
    How is this seen from Israel? Double standarts?
  17. Maz
    Maz 18 January 2018 14: 11
    +5
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Debris of downed missiles after all fell on Syrian territory?
    When intercepting, the entire tail section of the downed rocket usually falls to the ground.
    easily damaged (rumpled only).
    It is not difficult for Syrians to allow journalists to photograph such fragments.

    Of course, it’s not difficult in an area where the devil’s leg is broken by gangs, terrorists, criminals, and with complete devastation, a shaft of debris from technology - they just think how to find the tail of the Israeli killing muck that flew from its peaceful neighbors.
  18. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 18 January 2018 14: 35
    +3
    Here's more recent, about the previous “downs”, everyone has long been unsubscribed, as long as it went to Mordovia ... https://riafan.ru/1016712-siriya-vvs-izrailya-nan
    esli-aviaudar-po-skladu-khezbolly-okolo-damaska
    1. Oleg7700
      Oleg7700 18 January 2018 15: 30
      +5
      Are you still not rubbed here? https://riafan.ru/1016712-siriya-vvs-izrailya-nan
      esli-aviaudar-po-skladu-khezbolly-okolo-damaska ​​Numerous Arab reports have inflicted a blow on Iranian-Hezbollah arms depots. at the Mezze airbase
  19. Fanat85
    Fanat85 18 January 2018 14: 48
    0
    Syrian "BIRD" raged in earnest lol
  20. ADT
    ADT 18 January 2018 15: 54
    +4
    Decent people today stick out in the ice holes, and you suffer from such a trifle. A burnt warehouse of hezas is not something that the mysterious, wide and generous must worry about.
    If the long-suffering land of Syria does not give rest, then pay attention to what the "destroyed" do:
    * Terrorist units continue the offensive in the provinces of Hama and Idlib. According to unofficial data, during one of the latest attacks, they managed to recapture several settlements from the Syrian army and destroy the T-55 tank. Also at their disposal were weapons and ammunition, including machine guns and Kalashnikov assault rifles, AGS-17, DShKM and RPG-7. *
    1. abc_alex
      abc_alex 18 January 2018 16: 33
      +1
      Quote: ADT
      * Terrorist units continue the offensive in the provinces of Hama and Idlib. According to unofficial data, during one of the latest attacks, they managed to recapture several settlements from the Syrian army and destroy the T-55 tank. Also at their disposal were weapons and ammunition, including machine guns and Kalashnikov assault rifles, AGS-17, DShKM and RPG-7. *


      Destroyed do nothing of the kind. In Idlib, handshake "freedom fighters" are having fun, who, under the watchful watch of the "world community", were taken out from under the shelling of Syrian artillery and our aircraft. And Hama directly borders with Idlib, so there is no need for hints of the "destroyed."
      1. ADT
        ADT 18 January 2018 17: 19
        +3
        In Syria, everything is so confusing, for me they are all on one face and from one gang. Man-eaters and cannibals share the territory.
    2. Maz
      Maz 18 January 2018 20: 57
      +1
      You forgot to add that there is fog and the air force and artel are not working. It’s going to turn bad and drive all your toads into the ground.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 18 January 2018 21: 24
        +3
        Quote: Maz
        You forgot to add that there is fog and the air force and artel are not working. It’s going to turn bad and drive all your toads into the ground.

        Will you personally conquer?
        1. Maz
          Maz 18 January 2018 23: 18
          +1
          Classmates, students, fellow soldiers, fellow countrymen, like-minded people.
          1. ADT
            ADT 19 January 2018 08: 04
            +3
            Such like-minded people are not taken into combat units.
  21. KKND
    KKND 18 January 2018 16: 29
    0
    Hear, gentlemen of Israel, got 2-3 bombs to throw. Start the carpet bombing of Syria already, and we will check out the ability of the Jews to fight. In the meantime, if my grandmother had ....
    1. ADT
      ADT 18 January 2018 17: 17
      +3
      There are a lot of books, and on the net with YouTube there is enough of everything, who wants to check out, there are no barriers.
      For example, in YouTube, the Belarusian film "Cold War", the second part. There are also "air battles". It looks very good.
      And as for the carpets - we never have anyone, we didn’t even have planes for this, and probably will not.
      1. KKND
        KKND 18 January 2018 18: 35
        0
        Quote: ADT
        There are a lot of books, and on the net with YouTube there is enough of everything, who wants to check out, there are no barriers.

        You are a method of extrapolating facts, of course, but I personally am for the method of complete induction, it is more reliable.
        Quote: ADT
        And as for the carpets - we never have anyone, we didn’t even have planes for this, and probably will not.

        Well, about the carpet, it may not be necessary, but it would not be bad to drop 2-3 thousand smart bombs. Bomb the enemy in the "stone" age. Only yourself in the process do not rake from our "volunteers" for example.
        1. ADT
          ADT 18 January 2018 18: 42
          +2
          In the past, your volunteers have raked here more than once.
          Oh well .... who will remember the old.
          1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
            Crane operator Nahamkinson 18 January 2018 19: 03
            +4
            So you Jews, 2- two thousand years old, raked.
            Now from the Romans, now in Spain, then in France, then from Khmelnitsky.
            Yes, here is the last ogreb, not so long ago, from the Germans.
            Do not skid ....
            History ... it’s like that, repeating itself ...
            1. ADT
              ADT 18 January 2018 19: 25
              +3
              Oh foam went!
              And they raked it when the goats were not given back. Conclusions are made. And I hope they are not forgotten.
              1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
                Crane operator Nahamkinson 18 January 2018 19: 46
                +3
                Do not choke ....
                Wipe the keyboard.
                But the "k.z.ly" are the valiant Cossacks of B. Khmelnitsky?
                Or the French with the Spaniards?
                Yeah ...
                According to your affairs.
                And the attitude towards you.
                This is from your own book.
          2. synthwave
            synthwave 19 January 2018 00: 09
            +1
            Who raked, Jew? If the USSR, the hutsponosites took it seriously for you, there would be no wet place left from you and you understand this very well, so don’t swagger, you look silly. And so, there was a vain help to Arab friends from the elders from the Politburo.
            1. ADT
              ADT 19 January 2018 08: 09
              +1
              Well, not a Jew? If you were stuck here, well, only the tip of the muzzle was thrust? Did they get a code for it that bounced with a screech about the conspiracy of the international Jewish mafia?
              1. synthwave
                synthwave 19 January 2018 20: 25
                +2
                Once again, izya, no one has popped into your desert, and accordingly no one has bounced. Learn to read. They helped the Arabs with technology, but vacationers went for fighting. It was all just like one of the episodes in the confrontation, in the Cold War. The USSR, in general, first saved you, hutspovik ungrateful, from German stoves, and then gave tacit consent to the creation of your pseudo state. Or argue with that too? So dying die. I understand that when a mongrel has a strong host behind her, she wants to yap, but if in Moscow, all of a sudden, for some reason, they decide that you should disappear (which you would not be happy with), you will disappear and don’t blink. And neither the Americans nor your hutspa will help you.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 January 2018 17: 26
      +3
      Can not. Technically. sad We have no free-falling bombs left.
      All redone for accurate.
      1. ADT
        ADT 18 January 2018 17: 31
        +1
        Warrior, if you are here, there is a question (there is no one else to ask) off-topic - Israel produces its engines for F - 16? If it produces, then the blades are also ours?
        1. opus
          opus 18 January 2018 19: 37
          +2
          Quote: ADT
          Do their engines for F - 16 produces?

          no

          Quote: ADT
          If it does, are the blades also ours?

          especially not
          Israel Aerospace Industries Ltd.


          everything you have there is not easy (sorry, my Guguly translation from Hebrew is not high-quality)

          In 1981, the secretary of the IAI working group, Shmuel Kyklas, was found guilty of accepting a bribe as part of his work on behalf of the committee.
          In March, 2017, 13 senior aviation and security officers were arrested on suspicion of corruption, aggravated by fraud, money laundering, theft from a public servant, fraud and breach of trust. Senior service companies reportedly paid bribes to IAI senior officials for winning tenders. Strengthening the police investigation has caused suspicion in the political apparatus in the company, in which senior members of the working committee extorted other workers to visit them at the Likud party. And the former secretary of the Israeli aviation industry (IAI), Haim Katz, was under investigation, and his son Yair Katz is one of the suspects in this case.



          Quote: ADT
          In the past, your volunteers have raked here more than once.

          who, when, where?

          Soviet casualties in the war amounted to 35 military personnel who died, mainly "during Israeli air raids on military facilities in Egypt and Syria"

          wink
          1. ADT
            ADT 19 January 2018 08: 23
            0
            As for the engines, thanks for the answer, but they sent me something that pleased me. -
            Produce. The entire cycle, including the blades, since the time of licensed copying of General Electric J79 engines in the 70s.
            Bet Shemesh Engines Ltd.
            Here is a video of the production of the blades.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ste20P9TxVk
            1. ADT
              ADT 19 January 2018 08: 25
              +1
              About "when and where?" This is a big separate topic, a lot to write. But there are articles if you can search you can find not biased.
              The point here is not the number of people killed. The priority was not to kill, but to perform certain tasks. And they were fulfilled.
              And about the corruption, well, this mold is omnipresent. Russians do not know about this?
              1. opus
                opus 19 January 2018 10: 12
                +1
                Quote: ADT
                But there are articles if the search can be found and not biased.

                Well, you already put it like a couple of Ilovaisk boilers were organized by our volunteers in Syria and Egypt.
                That's what I am.
                Quote: ADT
                And about the corruption, well, this mold is omnipresent. Russians do not know about this?

                I'm current for.
                But for some reason: only us in this pile of shit poke and mostly comrades from Israel.
                1. ADT
                  ADT 19 January 2018 11: 54
                  +1
                  Yes, of course, no boilers. But in those conflicts, the military tasks that Israel set for itself were fulfilled.
                  In those temporary and in those situations, the union could not drive too many troops here. Those whom they drove - lost. I would have driven more, and if I had dealt with them harshly, and not mildly (Israel does not need an offended super-restraint), then the losses would have been not so modest.
                  If you do not imagine a nuclear conflict. That transport ships with troops and their combat escort would be destroyed on the way. A transport aircraft with troops on the way.
                  About corruption - I personally do not poke anyone. Your problems are your problems, and ours are ours.
                  1. ADT
                    ADT 19 January 2018 12: 08
                    +1
                    I could be mistaken (after prescription), like in one of Maxim Kalashnikov’s books (the pseudonym of a Russian politician of Turkish origin), a case was described that was said by one of the advisers involved in the war of attrition. How Israeli planes deliberately flew over the hostels where the advisers lived. During one of the attacks on a nearby Egyptian object, the force of the shock wave threw the advisers into neighboring beds. After such overflights, some had a nervous breakdown, one at the sound of flying planes, could not help it, lay down under the bed and shook.
                    Israel knew where the Soviet people lived, but did not bomb.
                  2. synthwave
                    synthwave 19 January 2018 21: 04
                    +1
                    In those temporary and in those situations, the union could not drive too many troops here.
                    Three and a half consultants and several pilots, is this a military? You didn’t fight there with the USSR, cut it on your nose at last. And it’s like the Ukrainians Ukrainians. They also put hundreds of Buryat tankers.

                    If you do not imagine a nuclear conflict. That transport ships with troops and their combat escort would be destroyed on the way. A transport aircraft with troops on the way.
                    Beckoning the world of a Jew ... What must be in the head to believe in such request ?
                    1. ADT
                      ADT 20 January 2018 22: 48
                      +1
                      How much evil foam out of you, along with the foolishness .... stamping of the current education, many of you are not Soviet.
                      On the topic of conversation.
                      1. We did not fight the USSR, it climbed here.
                      2 Read the operation "Caucasus", as one example of climbing here, there is an approximate amount.
                      3 Those parts that brought here, in the end, did not fulfill their task, not once. And dumped home.
                      4. In my large family of Ukrainians, Russians and Jews about the same. So I don’t care who it looks like and who I look like.
                      I am a Jew (buzz!), And when you mention this in your foam, it doesn’t. Another thing is annoying - when during communication with a normal person who has a different point of view, someone with an inflamed consciousness suddenly appears and begins to spit foam.
                      This is not good. Cut it yourself wherever you want.
                      1. synthwave
                        synthwave 21 January 2018 06: 21
                        +1
                        Quote: ADT
                        How much evil foam out of you, along with the foolishness .... stamping of the current education, many of you are not Soviet.

                        Oh, but our Jewess turned to personality. You broke early, and you could have left your rotten arguments ... You have a little resistance. Persecution taught nothing laughing .

                        Quote: ADT
                        On the topic of conversation.
                        1. We did not fight the USSR, it climbed here.

                        If it climbed, it would flatten you there, Jew laughing . But I agree with the first part. Finally it dawned on you. Nothing, not much, and you’ll start to understand global politics. And you will understand that the USSR "climbed" EVERYWHERE. And nothing personal. Like the United States, however.

                        Quote: ADT
                        2 Read the operation "Caucasus", as one example of climbing here, there is an approximate amount.


                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Группа_советских_во
                        Egyptian Specialists
                        Read. There were no regular combat units that Israel valiantly defeated in battle. What I told you about. 20 to people for 18 years of stay. As I said 3.5 engineers and 5 pilots. So shaw bogged down.


                        Quote: ADT
                        3 Those parts that brought here, in the end, did not fulfill their task, not once. And dumped home.

                        They had the task of helping the Arabs bend you. The Arabs lost. Yes, partly these experts were to blame for this (what nafig parts?). Tasks to bend you by the , in any case was not set. Do you feel the difference, or will you continue to rave that your amusing USSR army has bent? Well, as they dumped, they returned in 2014. Surprise mazafaka. laughing

                        Quote: ADT
                        4. In my large family of Ukrainians, Russians and Jews about the same. So I don’t care who it looks like and who I look like.

                        Are you so trying to get off the topic of hatred of the Syrian goyim? Well, they say, look how cosmopolitan I am and my family is multinational ... Not convincingly, beckoning. Do not respect the interlocutors and me on the drum what kind of blood you are. Your problem is in the head, and not in nationality. So what are you doing here in vain listing goyim relatives doing.

                        Quote: ADT
                        I am a Jew (buzz!), And when you mention this in your foam, it doesn’t.

                        And why did you decide that I do it so that you are calolo and a Jew? Or do you think the world revolves around your circumcised carcass, and around there are only anti-Semites lol ? It’s just amusing to me how you, former Soviet, sit there and make labor of Semites. I’m funny how you, who dumped from your country of birth, in a difficult moment to put your ass in the heat, tell us what is right and what is not. I’m funny how you, who thought 20 years ago that Russia was over, are tearing your farts here after Russia returned to the Middle East and gave you amer on a rotan. And you are proud of the old NON-EXISTING victories in your anger and powerlessness. So this is not anti-Semitism, my friend. Your behavior just amuses me. No, seriously, without you, the resource will lose a lot yes .

                        Quote: ADT
                        Another thing is annoying - when during communication with a normal person who has a different point of view, someone with an inflamed consciousness suddenly appears and begins to spit foam.

                        Yes, I'm normal, beckoning, it’s just that my true uterus is shaking your little world. There are people who fundamentally disagree with your point of view. You can call this foam, an inflamed consciousness, you can even do it, but you have to live with it. Accept this and relax the fart, your righteous irritation will not help here.

                        Quote: ADT
                        This is not good. Cut it yourself wherever you want.

                        What is good? To cheer on you in your Jewish-patriotic ravings? Understand izya, you are not just being torn from Egypt to Assad. So it’s not for me to cut it down, but for you to kill the hutspu.

                        Threat. Ehhhh I love to discuss with you. Write escho hi .
            2. opus
              opus 19 January 2018 10: 09
              +3
              Quote: ADT
              but they sent me something that pleased me. -

              You and I "sent" (and why it was silent) the same thing


              Your friend (who "pleased") has a nickname "Lord"(I would be embarrassed by this alone (although I am not a doctor). wassat
              He answered yesterday (probably sleeping)





              The distribution scheme of production of individual components and assemblies of aircraft by manufacturers


              Shl. I'm just for what?
              In the production of blades for THA and TRD, I was personally and practiced 2 of the month, and several Jewish comrades who worked for KZ had left for the promised.
              1.Manufacture know
              2.Contacts have
              1. ADT
                ADT 19 January 2018 11: 41
                +1
                How did the departed contacts evaluate the production in Israel?
                1. ADT
                  ADT 19 January 2018 12: 16
                  +1
                  I did not understand why the error popped up.
                  Oh shoulder blades .... I see. How do friends who have left here evaluate production in Israel?
                2. opus
                  opus 19 January 2018 12: 53
                  +4
                  Quote: ADT
                  How did the departed contacts evaluate the production in Israel?

                  Production in general? In general: +.
                  But turbine blades: the seams.
                  And this is understandable.

                  • Casting of working blades and nozzle blocks with equiaxial structure;
                  • Casting of working blades with directional and single-crystal structure (directional crystallization);
                  • Production of ceramic rods of various degrees of complexity for use in the casting of cooled workers and nozzle turbine blades (the formation of internal cooling channels).
                  • High-performance abrasive machining of blades and nozzle blocks;
                  • Electroerosive treatment of blades and nozzle blocks.
                  • The application of heat-resistant coatings on the surface of the working and nozzle blades of the turbine by the ion-plasma method;
                  • The application of complex protective and wear-resistant coatings on the inner and outer surfaces of the blades by gas circulation method;
                  • Laser powder surfacing of contact surfaces of turbine blades.

                  stereolithography and td and tp



                  The tolerances for other parameters of the profile of the working surfaces of the pen blade are as follows:
                  0,1 ... 0,4 mm thickness of the entrance edge;
                  30 ′ at the twist angle of the pen in cross sections;
                  0,2 ... 0,3 mm on the radius of the input edge of the pen;
                  0,5 ... 0,7 mm on the radius of the transition of the pen to the retaining shelves;
                  Ra = 1,25 ... 2,5 μm pen blade profile.
                  An important characteristic in the operation of turbine blades is also the wall thickness between the outer contour of the pen profile and the internal cooling cavity.
                  Tolerance for displacement of the inner contour relative to the outer
                  0,2 ... 0,3 mm.
                  In addition to the performance indicators of the working surface of the pen
                  blades, it is necessary to create a thermal barrier ceramic coating
                  250 microns thick.

                  Why should Israel master such a complex production?
                  Meaning?
                  But the restoration and overhaul of TRDD- yes.
                  1. ADT
                    ADT 19 January 2018 12: 59
                    +1
                    Thank you.
                    More than such knowledgeable interlocutors like you.
                  2. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 21 January 2018 10: 58
                    +1
                    Here is a video of the production of shovels for the F-16 engines
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ste20P9TxVk
            3. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 19 January 2018 10: 56
              +3
              The Beit Shemesh plant has a license for the overhaul of F-16 and F-15 engines. Complete disassembly, replacement or restoration of parts and assembly.
              With a fire test at the end.
              1. Oleg7700
                Oleg7700 19 January 2018 19: 03
                +2
                2012 movie.
              2. synthwave
                synthwave 19 January 2018 21: 08
                +1
                I in my garage can do the full kapitalku ICE car (except for block boring), but I can not do none parts for this engine 9for kapitalki app. I will buy parts in the store). Is the example clear?
                1. Oleg7700
                  Oleg7700 19 January 2018 22: 38
                  +2
                  But on their website and in the video is shown and said, in English, what do they produce, even turbine blades? And it does not look like this high-tech production is like a garage.
                  1. synthwave
                    synthwave 19 January 2018 22: 49
                    +1
                    I can also write in my garage "JSC Aircraft Corporation." The video shows how the robot dips some kind of figs into the bath with something. Turbine blades are for F16 or other details I do not know. Anyway, complete blade production cycle for modern motors in Israel not. Until recently, he was not in China, if that. And in Israel, it is unlikely to ever be.
        2. Maz
          Maz 18 January 2018 23: 14
          0
          Quote: ADT
          Warrior, if you are here, there is a question (there is no one else to ask) off-topic - Israel produces its engines for F - 16? If it produces, then the blades are also ours?

          Kaneshno make both steel and cast iron, and the converters are laughing
        3. synthwave
          synthwave 19 January 2018 00: 15
          +2
          Lol, the warrior ... found an expert ...))) Israel was not able to master even tank diesel engines and is putting German units on its fakes. And you ask about jet engines to fighters)))) The owner from overseas will present for faithful service, why should Bobiks strain? Be proud of vegetables and fruits, if you really want to get a vaccine for patriotism. wink Israel succeeded in this. But weapons do not, your element.
          1. opus
            opus 19 January 2018 10: 13
            +2
            Quote: synthwave
            Be proud better, vegetables and fruits, if you really want to get a vaccination for patriotism.

            electronics and in Israel = on 5 +, what can I do here?
            Quote: synthwave
            And do not do weapons, your element.

            them, them.
            Leaders. for 8 with + millions very worthy
            1. synthwave
              synthwave 19 January 2018 20: 31
              +2
              electronics and in Israel = on 5 +, what can I do here?
              Electronics there are no better than Western ones; they were developed by inertia from Western and Soviet engineers who moved there. None of the industry has created ANYTHING advanced. They simply repeated good samples and, according to Jewish ingenuity, they sell as their own. Not bad for the price, the quality turned out. No more.

              Leaders. for 8 with + millions very worthy
              You in one sentence contradict yourself. Decent for 8 million and leaders are two different things. They are not leaders, for sure. And if you tie achievements to the number of people, the most transmitting country is Monaco (no).
          2. opus
            opus 19 January 2018 10: 28
            +1
            Quote: synthwave
            Tavit on their fakes German units.

            L3 engine and transmission units with 1500 - a strong engine General Dynamics Land Systems (engine) General Dynamics GD883.
            MT883 engine parts are manufactured by the German company MTU, then selected by license from General Dynamics Land Systems in the USA, and only then the power plant, which received the GD883 index, is exported to Israel. Transmission, RK325, by the way, is also produced in Germany by Renk.


            It is understandable:
            Most Non-Exported Tank: Merkava

            absolutely not profitable to do their mto

            Good tank turned out (without irony)


            1. synthwave
              synthwave 19 January 2018 21: 39
              0
              MTO is a motor-transmission compartment (that is, just a place under the power unit with a box) and it is there by definition. And it’s not a matter of profit (this is a vital product for the country no one will count money), but of resources and skills. The first is not certain, the second is in question. And yes, carrots are a worthless tank. All that is good there is a German engine with a gun and an American SLA. Everything else, from layout to engineering solutions, well, that is Jewish, there is complete crap.
          3. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 19 January 2018 11: 05
            +1
            . "And do not do weapons, your element" ////

            In recent years, Israel has successfully knocked Russia out of several international arms tenders. Anti-aircraft ship missiles for India - Barak, machine guns for Vietnam - Galil. And Russia buys UAVs from Israel under license.
            So - not only vegetables. wink Although vegetables buy health fellow
            1. synthwave
              synthwave 19 January 2018 20: 40
              0
              Anti-aircraft ship missiles for India
              The key word here is india. Nobody needs to be beaten out there, the guys buy samples all over the world, according to the Schaub principle. India bought weapons from Russia in such amounts that you don’t have enough money for a hundred years.
              machines for Vietnam - Galil
              Badly copied Kalashmat. Not a competitor to labor Kalash either in price (cheap) or in quality (fake). Cheap and cheerful, that's why they took it. And the Jew himself goes with American rifles. Here is such a galil.
              Russia buys UAVs from Israel under license.
              Well then write how many they bought, since you touched on this topic. And yes, for copying good solutions and gaining experience to create your own samples, just enough. So it’s not you who sold us and welded. That we saved money and time.

              Still have something to be proud of? And then, all that you wrote, it costs less than one Russia-India contract for the T-90. No, of course. I say, your element is vegetables.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 19 January 2018 23: 49
                +1
                "I say, your element is vegetables" ////

                Speak on health. Your conversations do not prevent us from exporting military equipment worth $ 7 billion every year.
                Russia, of course, exports more military equipment:
                already belay 14 billion every year.
                1. synthwave
                  synthwave 20 January 2018 00: 44
                  0
                  Where do these figures come from about 7 and 14 billion? Bullshit ... Russia has the second place in the list of the largest arms exporters with a share of 23 percent. Germany is fifth and 5,6 percent. And Israel is not among the ten. Is the difference in money doubled? Oh well. You look, I’m also cool about how you make weapons (that is, bad, lol). You do not know how to do either. Although I do not argue that they buy it the same. But here it is not a matter of sales, but of characteristics and quality, because there will be a buyer for each product. Even Ukrainians manage to sell the “modernized” T-64 to Africa and armored personnel carriers in which the corps went cracked into Iraq. And entered the top 10 exporters recently. This is approximately your level.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 20 January 2018 13: 49
                    +1
                    "but in the characteristics and quality," ////

                    Exactly! Israel sells in most high-tech equipment: avionics, radars, a variety of missiles with complex seekers,
                    various SLAs. Moreover, not to third world countries, but to Switzerland, Germany, USA, Singapore. For cash, currency. And Russia mainly sells armored vehicles to developing countries. On the cheap. And planes on account of barter and loans.
                    1. synthwave
                      synthwave 20 January 2018 22: 03
                      +1
                      Moreover, not to third world countries, but to Switzerland, Germany, USA, Singapore.
                      Learn to read your own links:
                      The largest market for Israeli defense technologies in 2016 is the Asia-Pacific region, whose countries purchased weapons and technologies from Israel for $ 2.6
                      Not third world countries? Oh well...

                      And Russia mainly sells armored vehicles to developing countries.
                      Are armored vehicles and aircraft certainly not high-tech products? Neighing with mommy igerspert. How many Israel has sold armored vehicles and aircraft in 20 years? Zero units, sort of? That's all your high-tech. Copy the American radar (well, or a Russian machine), pass it off and get a profit.

                      On the cheap.
                      Well, where are we to the Jews in terms of making a profit laughing .

                      And planes on account of barter and loans.
                      We didn’t know, but I’ll explain. In the field of arms trade, a polytechnical component is very often present. That is, we are a loan or barter, and we are loyal to other issues, allied relations, etc. And Israel is not a country on a scale to play such games, so you trade exclusively for shekels, hence the nonsense about 7 and 14 lard. Fershteyn?
                  2. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 20 January 2018 13: 57
                    +2
                    Russian military exports in 2016 - $ 15 billion
                    https://topwar.ru/111622-itogi-rossiyskogo-ekspor
                    ta-oruzhiya-v-2016-godu.html
                    Israeli military exports 2016 - $ 6.5 billion:
                    http://stop-news.com/oryjie/eksport-vooruzhenij-i
                    zrailya-vysokotekhnologichnaya-produkciya
                    Russian population: 147 million
                    Israeli population: 8 million
                    hi
                    1. Hottabych
                      Hottabych 20 January 2018 15: 20
                      0
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Russian population: 147 million
                      Israeli population: 8 million

                      You forgot to compare the territories.))) Although, why all these comparisons, I do not quite understand ...
                    2. synthwave
                      synthwave 20 January 2018 22: 10
                      0
                      Bredyatina why explained above. Or barter is not taken into account, or underestimate, overstate numbers. In percentage terms, the difference is at least ten times. You don’t sell aviation, you don’t sell armored vehicles, you don’t sell the fleet ... in short, pug.
                      And the figures given for the population, I did not understand what was happening here. If you have something to say, speak directly, do not be shy. I can tell you a lot more.
                      1. ADT
                        ADT 20 January 2018 23: 24
                        +1
                        That's it: We don’t sell the fleet, and each trough gives large and beautiful financial reports. We do not sell the iron mass of armored vehicles (due to the fact that ours is imprisoned for us). We do not sell aviation - yes, there is something to argue about (among the citizens of Israel).
                        These are heavy military products and provide the main profit.
                        How many "Spike" and radars do not sell, one water trough will block financially not weakly.
                        But ...
                        Often, these iron masses that you sell are equipped with our electronics, and sometimes our weapons.
                        Often the amounts actually paid to you are much less than the numbers in the contracts that you proudly indicate in the reports. Sometimes it seems that they’re buying weapons from you, because you don’t have to give money. . You say thank you for that, licking those cannibals whom you arm you sometimes smiled at.
                        And sometimes you sometimes lend so tightly to your customers that a deal is more like a gift than a sale.
                        And yes - our narrow strip of sand, which is smaller than the Moscow region, where the country was revived by historical standards a second ago, without any fossils, constantly fending off your cannibalistic friends, taking in a bunch of emigrants, including completely illiterate ones underdeveloped countries, but sells a little (according to official reports) weapons for smaller amounts than you.
                        And what follows from this?
      2. Maz
        Maz 18 January 2018 21: 01
        +1
        Bombs Not redone. And received from American warehouses at the expense of annual military assistance.
  22. genpolitproekt
    genpolitproekt 18 January 2018 17: 44
    +1
    But what, you can not give true friends something newer ??? Turks, China and even the Saudis, S-400, and the Syrians, old stuff ???
    1. Romulus
      Romulus 18 January 2018 23: 58
      +2
      [quote = genpolitproekt] that, it is not possible to give true friends something newer [/ quote
      Your "friends" X without salt eat up .. S400 is too expensive a gift even for Assad's "friend" wassat
  23. dojjdik
    dojjdik 18 January 2018 20: 19
    +1
    Well, over the 50 years of the war, how the Jews are boasting here, they just captured one city at Jerusalem, if right; and of course, many are absolutely right here that the Syrians are at least somehow fighting with such a hydra as Israel; there is hope for normal air defense; but can we or the Chinese be able to “sell” to them, well, at least diesel submarines naturally equipped with Syrian submariners to retaliate against Israeli military facilities; because de jure we have nothing to do with Syria and at war with the Jews; because Israel receives the latest weapons from its American Jews and does not hide it at all
  24. Maz
    Maz 18 January 2018 21: 03
    +1
    http://yzdorov.ru/zdorovoe-telo/uprazhnenija-pri-
    sidjachej-rabote /
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "how Israel distinguishes Hezbollah’s warehouses" on the territory of the Syrian army’s military bases "
    from the warehouses of the Syrian army "////

    With intelligence, buddy! fellow

    American?
  25. Maz
    Maz 18 January 2018 21: 09
    +2
    Quote: Shahno
    Comrade, you were not taught in the courses to distinguish terror from military operations. We have a kind of war with Syria.

    This is not a war. War is when one on one. And then, in half, they beat a half-corpse of the country and are also proud of it. Eagles
  26. Maz
    Maz 18 January 2018 21: 17
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "CLEAR ALSO?
    BOMB to beats? "////

    Wow! What big letters ... belay
    The state of Syria and the state of Israel are officially located
    at war for 50 years.
    Therefore, your perturbations are not very clear ... War.
    We ensure our safety as we can.
    What we wish you! fellow

    That is, if we, the Russian Federation, soak the Japanese islands, then we can refer to the Israeli-Syrian relations and the precedent of the current launches?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 18 January 2018 21: 27
      +3
      Quote: Maz

      That is, if we, the Russian Federation, soak the Japanese islands, then we can refer to the Israeli-Syrian relations and the precedent of the current launches?

      And what about the headquarters of the terrorists who kill the Russians in Japan? If so, then you are in your own right.
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  28. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 18 January 2018 23: 34
    +3
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Maz

    Better to the Psychiatrist. Nobody saw the tablets. Only words... laughing

    Well, you know better whose help you need.

    Well, take your time until the East has gathered strength. And so you are scared - Hezbollahs are scared of being ridiculed, in the shadows, shoot it from all the guns! laughing
  29. egsp
    egsp 18 January 2018 23: 37
    +4
    Strange news. I think professional anti-aircraft gunners will support me: to shoot the S-200 with an air-to-ground missile is like a gun sparrow. In air defense of the SAR there is something to shoot at these targets, but not from the "two hundred"! Not for this it was created by the best minds of the Soviet Union!
  30. 72jora72
    72jora72 19 January 2018 06: 18
    +2
    Quote: Aron Zaavi

    11
    Aron Zawi Yesterday, 12:01 New
    Can you see at least one fragment from an Israeli rocket? Now, when RA air defense knocks something down, then debris from downed vehicles is shown. And here are just words.
    when WE engage in this entertaining process, then you will wash yourself with bloody tears ,,,,,,,,, and then neither the USA nor Yahweh nor Satan will help you ........ yes, you yourself are aware of them.
  31. Maz
    Maz 19 January 2018 10: 47
    +1
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Maz

    That is, if we, the Russian Federation, soak the Japanese islands, then we can refer to the Israeli-Syrian relations and the precedent of the current launches?

    And what about the headquarters of the terrorists who kill the Russians in Japan? If so, then you are in your own right.

    And what, we have concluded a peace treaty with Japan and the Russian Federation and there are no US military bases with nuclear weapons in Okinawa, from which the headquarters of all Washington plans to kill civilians of the Russian Federation in case of war? Why is America better than hezbollah? By the fact that the rockets are larger at times, the charges are more powerful, and the flight range is many times greater? Or by sponsoring the promised country in return for absolute humility, devotion and love? If so, these are just words
  32. Dimmih
    Dimmih 19 January 2018 11: 42
    +1
    Quote "" Of course, it is impossible to draw any conclusions from the frames seen about how effective this launch was. "And what is the news? Russians from Mordovia recorded launches of Syrian missiles in the white light. The result of the launch of military missiles on a military target was news about the fact that the missiles launched successfully !!!! The ground-to-air missile, and in this case others are more useful - the ground-to-plane missile. With the same success, it is more cost-effective to launch New Year's Chinese firecrackers.
  33. BVS
    BVS 19 January 2018 11: 49
    +2
    The video shows the launch of a rocket and its flight in the sky. “Of course, according to the frames seen impossible to draw any conclusions[b] how effective this launch was, ”he notes.
    And what about the article then.
  34. BVS
    BVS 19 January 2018 11: 51
    +1
    Israeli Air Force planes, being in the sky over Lebanon, attacked objects in Syria. As a result of the measures taken, several Israeli air-to-ground missiles and two ground-to-ground missiles were shot down, according to Dmitry Lemeshko, citing SANA.
    So did the Israeli Air Force launch two ground-to-ground missiles?
  35. Dimmih
    Dimmih 19 January 2018 11: 51
    0
    Quote: 72jora72
    Quote: Aron Zaavi

    11
    Aron Zawi Yesterday, 12:01 New
    Can you see at least one fragment from an Israeli rocket? Now, when RA air defense knocks something down, then debris from downed vehicles is shown. And here are just words.
    when WE engage in this entertaining process, then you will wash yourself with bloody tears ,,,,,,,,, and then neither the USA nor Yahweh nor Satan will help you ........ yes, you yourself are aware of them.

    Quote: 72jora72
    Quote: Aron Zaavi

    11
    Aron Zawi Yesterday, 12:01 New
    Can you see at least one fragment from an Israeli rocket? Now, when RA air defense knocks something down, then debris from downed vehicles is shown. And here are just words.
    when WE engage in this entertaining process, then you will wash yourself with bloody tears ,,,,,,,,, and then neither the USA nor Yahweh nor Satan will help you ........ yes, you yourself are aware of them.

    You this, that, accept a sedative. We will turn on ... War is not for you to jump on the couch, all strategists and warlords are off the couch. Have you long smelled carrots and gunpowder? It seems like never. Who sniffed, he will not write this. On a crawled-out couch in trainings with outstretched knees and a washed-up jump shirt, this is one thing, and crawling under the fire on caramels is another. Feel the difference, as they say.
  36. Maz
    Maz 19 January 2018 19: 04
    +1
    Quote: Hanokem
    Maz, you still don’t know everything. S-200 shot down three F-35s, a sensation. And a child prodigy is an expensive thing, so you have to cut back your allowance from leumi beet

    Allowance? No, I don’t live with alms, the military pension is enough from the Russian Federation and still remains .. And a trifle in leumi bits, you are nuts.
  37. Oleg Salov
    Oleg Salov 19 January 2018 20: 22
    0
    If Israel shells the territory of Syria from the territory of Lebanon, then the Syrians need to shoot down Israeli planes right in the sky of Lebanon
  38. synthwave
    synthwave 20 January 2018 23: 56
    +1
    Quote: ADT
    That's it: We don’t sell the fleet, and each trough gives large and beautiful financial reports.

    Trough? Lol, what are you then buying American ships and German boats? Is this also a trough? Do not know how to do, do not do, do not sell, do not receive profit. Keep all the other maneuvers with you.

    Quote: ADT
    We do not sell the iron mass of armored vehicles (due to the fact that ours is imprisoned for us).

    It is not a matter of “confinement," the fact is that this is trash that no one needs.

    Quote: ADT
    We do not sell aviation - yes, there is something to argue about (among the citizens of Israel).

    There is nothing to argue here for both citizens and non-citizens. You do NOT produce manned aircraft in principle, you buy it. And why not, do not sell. The same story as with the fleet. The question can be closed, everything else -
    maneuvers.

    Quote: ADT
    Often, these iron masses that you sell are equipped with our electronics, and sometimes our weapons.

    This is exclusively your enticing imagination. In a complete set for SU-30 for India could stand something from your electronics on Arrangements with the customer. In the Superjet (civilian side, well, since you remember ...) there is (or maybe was already) one of your units. ALL. Do not come up with fairy tales, to please your little world, in which the Jew is the kings of Silicon Valley laughing .


    Quote: ADT
    Often the amounts actually paid to you are much less than the numbers in the contracts that you proudly indicate in the reports.

    This is politics baby. Igspertu warrior, I already wrote about this. Read and enlighten.

    Quote: ADT
    Sometimes it seems that they’re buying weapons from you, because you don’t have to give money.

    Russia is not a country to which you simply can’t give something up, and you know this very well, Jew. Ukrainians 4 years ago also thought that once they became American mongrel, then in the "house". And now a bridge is being built in Crimea. Is the hint clear?

    Quote: ADT
    You say thank you for that, licking those cannibals whom you arm you sometimes smiled at.

    Vengeful Jews and Americans sell their weapons exclusively to angels. And the evil Ivans to some terrorists, yes a Jew? To you, scraps, even for the modernization of Georgian tanks before the 2008 war, the answer will fly, do not worry.

    Quote: ADT
    And yes - our narrow strip of sand, which is smaller than the Moscow region, where the country was revived by historical standards a second ago, without any fossils, constantly fending off your cannibalistic friends, taking in a bunch of emigrants, including completely illiterate ones underdeveloped countries, but sells a little (according to official reports) weapons for smaller amounts than you.
    And what follows from this?

    Well, maybe that behind the back of this country is the most powerful and powerful country in the world - the United States, and you are one of its main allies (you don’t mongrel mongrel, they are allies of the states) in the region that pursues an inhumane cannibalistic policy, including including and to the detriment of their interests in order to continue to receive protection from overseas? Yes, of course, no bullshit.
    1. ADT
      ADT 21 January 2018 21: 31
      +1
      Shalom foam. In the beginning, about the important: [Oh, but our Jewess turned to personality.]
      Why do you love so dear? Here is your first appeal to me - [Who raked, Jew?]
      Maybe you don’t know, but they don’t read the conversation like that. And then ... Izya .... hutsponosets .. something else there ... So I did not go, but you started from that. So I react. You never know if a comrade cannot communicate in a different format, but the conversation must be maintained. In general, I am a hutsponosi izya, you will be the god-bearer of Athos.
      I will not name the goy, do not wait. There are good people among the Russians (by the way, who are you in the nation?), I don’t want to offend my relatives and friends.
      And now on the topic.
      [Trough? Lol, what are you then buying American ships and German boats?]
      I did not put emotions into the word "trough", I meant a ship without filling. If it were ours, it would still be called a trough. So, your troughs are often bought, for reasons: they are the cheapest, you don’t have to wait for permission from any congress, and yes, of course, sometimes you don’t even have to pay for them. And often these troughs, like a shell, are filled with content produced in others countries, including ours. Although I admit of course, we are super-duper high-tech, but there are achievements.
      1. ADT
        ADT 21 January 2018 22: 11
        +1
        "The point is not" confinement, "the fact is that this is trash that no one needs."
        These tanks are imprisoned for our priorities, what are the priorities of others, it's their business, let them take what suits them best. And to call them trash ... do you have information about carrots? One of my sons in Latrun took my oath, but I know nothing. Carrots do their job, and not bad.
        But with the lack of aircraft production, this is the merit of one comrade who demolished the factories ready for opening and ditched not just Lavi, but the Israeli aviation future. The Chinese took it, and rose sharply on this. But here are our Israeli disputes and problems.
        [This is politics baby. Igspertu warrior, I already wrote about this. Read and enlighten.] This is a blunder Afonya! Well, what about the influence? What happened ? This freebie deplete the Union. This Chingachkug doesn’t step on the mop twice, but the God-bearers go their own way, you dance on it! You handed out to everyone who took, and these all ran away from you ..
        "Russia is not a country that you can’t give up." So how, did they give everything away? And something is not visible bridge under construction to Cuba for example. Or to Egypt, or to Iraq, or to Libya. There is no bridge to China, which, without hiding, tears your toys, and fights not so much for itself as for sale. Nicho, friends, you give the land, give a kiss (though he doesn’t turn to face you), but he threw the silk road in exchange for your initially unprofitable pipe. Well, where are the bridges? Ukraine alone believed you to be the guarantor of its territorial integrity, and gave away vigorous weapons. I am exactly equal to whose Crimea, but even so, what has happened shows that you cannot trust your promises.
        Influence ... Bullshit!
        America riches itself through economic development, the economy provides both military power and political influence, this influence often shoves arms contracts, and they enrich the economy. And that makes sense. You are wising something else - distributing weapons to the cannibals, licking, if only they would sometimes smile at you in the international arena. And they know their business. In general, you stick to them, they fool you. Do you think this should be? Well, flag in hand and your favorite mop under your feet.
        I'll write the rest later, no time. You are the only God-bearer to be on this subject, discuss, you love.
        1. synthwave
          synthwave 22 January 2018 09: 07
          +1
          [quote = ADT] These tanks are sharpened for our priorities, what are the priorities of others, it's their business, let them take what suits them best. And to call them trash ... [/ quote]
          What do you call “imprisonment” an unsuccessful layout, a heavy structure, weak frontal armor of the hull and dependence on foreign components? Well, if it's easier for you ..
          [quote = ADT] do you have information about carrots? [/ quote]
          I am a sofa igtspert. I read everything that I know in Internet. He analyzed and made conclusions. If you are not an active IDF tanker, I know more than you.
          [quote = ADT] One of my sons in latrun took the oath, but I do not know anything. Carrots do their job, and not bad. [/ Quote]
          Yes, noticeable, if you do not know why you are writing? Well, change the word "Merkava" to "Abrams" or "Leopard" in your sentences and nothing will change. Well, perhaps the word "not bad" to "good" or even to "excellent."
          [quote = ADT] But with the lack of aircraft production, it was the merit of one comrade who demolished the factories ready for opening and ditched not just Lavi, but the Israeli aviation future. [/ quote]
          You had READY plants that Kfira made. They were also killed by this comrade? In fact, everything is simple. At the very top, someone decided (and actually in Washington) that it would be more convenient to buy American planes and thus closed your aircraft industry by planting it on American cars. So you can say thanks to the Americans whose F-35 you love to praise here so much.
          [quote = ADT] The Chinese took it, and rose sharply on this. But here are our Israeli disputes and problems. [/ quote]
          Your Lavi wouldn’t change anything. He generally did not look like a finished plane. Looked more like an F-16 with a duck circuit and an old engine. And the Chinese did not rise on it, but on copying Soviet technology. And if you about J-10 there was a salad from the USSR and Lavi:
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-10
          [quote = ADT] This is a blunder Afonya! Well, what about the influence? What happened ? This freebie deplete the Union. This chingachkug twice does not step on a mop, .... [/ quote]
          And I did not say that it was cool and correctly executed. At that time it was too much, especially for the USSR. But if you want to have influence in the world, and not be an American cuckold (like you, lol), you need to give the natives a bead. Sanctified Americans do as well. So you Papuans have been fed laughing . And now you protect them as relatives. And this time, we did not begin to drive hundreds of the latest T-14s to Syria so that they would be destroyed ... (like with the T-54 at one time) and presented a bunch of T-62 from warehouses. So do not talk about a mop.
          [quote = ADT] So how, did they give everything back? [/ quote]
          Putin doesn’t report to me laughing .
          [quote = ADT] And something is not visible under construction of a bridge to Cuba for example. [/ quote]
          Sorry, the bridge to Cuba from where? From the belarus sea laughing ? You psaki bit laughing ?
          [quote = ADT] Or to Egypt, or to Iraq, or to Libya. [/ quote]
          With all these countries, Russia has better relations than with the sevends (which the latter 2 destroyed and wanted 3), and even more so with you.
          [quote = ADT] There is no bridge to China, which is not hiding and tearing your toys, and is tearing not so much for itself as for sale. [quote = ADT] [/ quote]
          Russia has such a turnover with China that everything is clear and so. And territorial disputes settled 10 years ago. So don’t manifest here.
          [quote = ADT] Nicho, friends, give the land, [/ quote]
          Who did we give the land to? Do you turn on hutsp again, Izya? If you crow such things, give proofs.
          [quote = ADT] give a kiss (though he doesn’t turn his face to you [/ quote]
          Stop it, nasty, I'm not on this part ...
          [quote = ADT] but as with the silk road, I threw it in exchange for your initially unprofitable pipe. [/ quote]
          Translate this nonsense into Russian ...
          [quote = ADT] Well, where are the bridges? [/ quote]
          Will be, hutspovichek, do not hesitate yes .
          [quote = ADT] One Ukraine believed you to be the guarantor of its territorial integrity, and gave away vigorous weapons. [/ quote]
          Ukraine gave back its weapons in return for security promises from the west and money with the west. Yes yes exactly from и of West, Jew. And the west threw them, moving his head to his lips (ETOGES Ukrainians ...). Russia was not there at all. We simply agreed to accept these weapons and then safely dispose of them. Or do you think it is still in service with us? You completely wandered old ... fool
          [quote = ADT] I am equal to whose Crimea, [/ quote]
          This does not concern you. You snotty, who will ask? The main thing is that you weren’t "out of line" whose Golan. And then, it may soon come together that you have to give. And so that it is not very insulting, it is better to refuse right now yes .
          [quote = ADT] but everything that happened shows that you cannot trust your promises. [/ quote]
          Yes, yes, they are evil Ivan. So what, these evil Ivanes of you, then got from the stoves? Well, this is when civilized Western Aryans pushed you there. Remember that, hutspovik? Likely that you then, so proud and independent, said your "fi"? You have a short memory. Therefore, you run hundreds of years from Egypt and vice versa, from the torchlight procession which so "loves you". laughing
          [quote = ADT] Influence ... Bullshit! [/ quote]
          No comment. Ygsper says the word .... laughing
          [quote = ADT] America is wealthy due to economic development, [/ quote]
          They enriched themselves after the First World War. World War II and after the victory in the Cold War. Right now they want to bend North Koreans and Iranians (by military force, of course) and are fanning a new cold war based solely on Russophobia to give their economic engine a new bone under the name “VPK”. So the economy is like that, sometimes it requires blood.
          [quote = ADT] the economy gives both military power and political influence, [/ quote]
          This military power gives influence, and it in turn pushes the economy. Nobody will sign contracts with worthless wimps and will not invest money in their country.
          [quote = ADT] this influence often shoves arms contracts, and they enrich the economy. And that makes sense. [/ quote]
          Oh, well, you can when you want .... come on, Izy, I believe in you. There are still neurons in your skull ...
          [quote = ADT] You are wising something else - distribute weapons to the cannibals, licking, if only they would sometimes smile at you in the international arena. And they know their business. In general, you stick to them, they fool you. Do you think this should be? Well, flag in hand and your favorite mop under your feet. [/ quote]
          Yes, you do not understand the Jew. Generous we just Generous laughing . You know the expression: “Russia is a generous soul”? Here we are laughing . Well, I understand, it's a shame, nothing falls into you. Well, the Americans feed you. What do you want to suck milk from two boobs or something (well, or not boobs and not milk ... laughing )? Nope ... it won't work ...
          [quote = ADT] I will write the rest later, there is no time. [/ quote]
          If you were a busy person, you would not write sheets to a stranger, but you would have closed your mouth and got down to business. Nobody reads your nonsense except me yes .
          [quote = ADT] You are the only God-bearer to be on this topic, discuss, you love. [/ quote]
          "God-bearer" is Th, your answer to the "God-chosen", after which I should be offended and start calling mommy laughing ? Want to poke me, be creative. And it turns out sucks and you just look pathetic and not serious. Your task is to make laugh (well, or to trigger laughing ) and do not be a laughing stock. And you have a second so far. And so at any time. I see, in your head there is still a lot of homna. Maybe you’ll become smarter after my sheets laughing .
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            No comment. Ygsper says the word ..

            The mighty cart .. 4 days wrote?
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  39. ADT
    ADT 23 January 2018 23: 47
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    ADT,
    As for "consider me an evil Russian" - kid, go see a specialist until you are pulled to a school with a knife.
    1. synthwave
      synthwave 24 January 2018 00: 33
      +1
      As for "consider me an evil Russian" - kid, go see a specialist until you are pulled to a school with a knife.
      Why are you answering your nickname laughing ? Do you have a split personality? Or is it such a form of narcissism, write an indignant message under bold its own by anyone? Well, the betman’s symbol is in heaven. laughing

      Threat. Your pathetic attempt to get to the age of the interlocutor, thereby belittling him, is another proof of your powerlessness, anger and degenerative behavior. Type: "look this is a schoolboy, and I'm an adult uncle, so I'm right." You talk like that, right? I will not upset you, but if you even lost the argument to a schoolboy, what good is in your years, in your experience? And finally, I won’t indicate my exact age, I’ll just say that I was born in the USSR. Can you count that I am already a working adult, I hope? So you can finish with “schools” and “boys”.
  40. ADT
    ADT 24 January 2018 00: 00
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    In general, have you piled so much porridge? I understand who I argue with, but there is a sin, even one wants to answer. And about sputum, and about generosity. And by the way, how generous is your generosity? At the beginning, agree on a price, and when you pick up the goods praisingly, and then show a cookie, not money, you say, “C'mon, we don’t need anything, we cannibals for you, we love our soul,” and they love!
    Still like love! When I was still illegally employed in Israel, I saw a picture: a foreman for bread. the factory - an evil Arab, Zeles in the decalte Russian illegal queen, pulled out a cross, and in a good Russian language he said "you still lacked here
    Everything, the day was difficult, and tomorrow will not be easier.
    I promise, I’ll be released, and calmly (otherwise I don’t recognize myself, I’ve picked up from you the way to prove something in the foam style) I will answer.
    1. synthwave
      synthwave 24 January 2018 00: 51
      +1
      Quote: ADT
      In general, have you piled so much porridge?

      I didn’t start it. But I will finish. According to the old Russian tradition, so to speak laughing .

      Quote: ADT
      I understand who I argue with, but there is a sin, even one wants to answer.

      You argue with a person who is smarter than you. And you probably already regretted it. On this site, retired construction battalion retirees sit and peasants for 45 from the CIS countries and the Israeli. Hence the "level" of the forum. But I am a representative of youth by age, from a completely different test. Like you see right through. This is where you pierced.

      Quote: ADT
      And about sputum, and about generosity. And by the way, how generous is your generosity? At the beginning, agree on a price, and when you pick up the goods praisingly, and then show a cookie, not money, you say, “Come on, we don’t need anything, we cannibals for you, we love our soul,” and they love!

      Who about what and a Jew about money ... laughing You directly confirm all stereotypes about Jews. Well, it would seem, well, what do you care about how much another country sold trunks to someone there? But no, the Jew’s heart aches, they asked a little, and they didn’t share it with him. I have already explained to you that the sale of weapons is closely linked to politics. It will be necessary, we will give trunks as in the Donbass or in Syria. And they are cannibals for circumcised Semites or senile Americans.

      Quote: ADT
      Still like love! When I was still illegally employed in Israel, I saw a picture: a foreman for bread. the factory - an evil Arab, Zeles in the decalte Russian illegal queen, pulled out a cross, and in a good Russian language he said "you still lacked here

      The time has come for drop dead stories. Today in the program, one Jew wants to prove to us that the Arabs hate Russians (with a Lviv focus on part-time work in the Izgail, infa hundred) more than Jews. Stay with us. And immediately after, the program "do not judge by one moron."

      Quote: ADT
      Everything, the day was difficult, and tomorrow will not be easier.
      I promise, I’ll be released, and calmly (otherwise I don’t recognize myself, I’ve picked up from you the way to prove something in the foam style) I will answer.

      Yes, there is nothing to answer you ... you threaten the second day. Foam, schoolboy, foam, schoolboy. You walk in a circle. And as for calm, you just imagine that I live in front of you. Taller than you (185 mine, and you I think lower), stronger than you (sports since childhood) younger than you (under 30 years old). Lying and being rude will immediately change your mind laughing .
  41. synthwave
    synthwave 24 January 2018 00: 24
    +1
    Quote: ADT
    You have a problem with the tower.

    A direct insult, I will complain to modernity, you do not mind laughing ?

    Quote: ADT
    Wrote, your answer appeared. Everything is fine.

    At first you did not see him. And then you wrote that answered on him, did not write nothing. Che stupid then? Are you so slow-witted that you got confused in your own comments?

    Quote: ADT
    And then I see you skating on the floor.

    Yes, I'm as awesome as an elephant. Your attempts to insult me ​​are even fun. I understand that this is from impotence yes .

    Quote: ADT
    There are objections to all your insanity, but you want more accuracy, with links. Oh, lush foam. My weekend is over. How to tear off time, I will definitely try to unsubscribe.

    Don’t strain the sawn-off shotgun ... I already understood everything about you. You will not have links not on the weekend, not in a month. For one simple reason. All you wrote bullshit and your manic fantasies. That's all. Just do not write what you DO NOT know and we will even.

    Quote: ADT
    It doesn’t require one time — Crimea is indeed equally divided, and the golan is not your dog thing.
    Here we have mutual understandings.

    I myself decide what is my business and what is NOT. Do you understand the paysonoets? But we don’t have anything mutual and thank God.
    1. ADT
      ADT 4 February 2018 22: 57
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      Start over . Who raked, Jew? Union raked. - https://topwar.ru/118850-voyna-na-istoschenie-cha
      st-2-kavkaz-na-sinae.html.
      By the end of December 1969, the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces and the General Staff of the Air Defense Forces had developed and submitted to the leadership a plan of operation "Caucasus".
      According to the plan, it was supposed to place in Egypt a grouping of Soviet troops, numerically corresponding to one air defense corps (32 000 people), which was to confront the Israeli Air Force. The plan was approved and the formation of a group of troops began.
      Organizationally formed group consisted of the following formations:
      Aviation Group
      35-I separate fighter squadron - 30 MiG-21МФ
      135 Fighter Regiment - 40 MiG-21МФ
      63-th separate aviation squad - 2 MiG-25Р, 2 MiG-25РБ
      Formation of anti-aircraft missile forces
      The 18 is a special anti-aircraft missile division - 24 zrdn, combined in 3 zrbr, 96 launchers C-125, 96 ZSU-23-4 and 48 launchers Strela-2.
      Naval group
      Warships and vessels from the 5th Mediterranean Operational Squadron
      90-I separate special-purpose reconnaissance aviation squadron (90-I odrae HE) - 6 Tu-16Р, 3 An-12РР, 3 Бе-12.
      EW Group
      Separate EW Center
      513-th Separate Shortwave Radio Interference Battalion
      separate company of VHF radio interference. These are not all advisers. Advisers on a specific topic.
      The task was not completed. Losses are low. Low for a simple reason - they are treated gently as children were treated. - From the memoirs of a participant in the events:
      “March 6 flew the main flight and technical staff of the regiment. After a long flight in close cabins of An-12 vehicles, Soviet pilots and technicians were still kneading their feet, taking their first steps on Egyptian soil, when a couple of “phantoms” with blue stars suddenly passed over GDP at 50 meters. After going to the end of the runway, the two effectively soared vertically upwards, then opened, then the aircraft dispersed with each other in courses at 180 degrees and left the horizon. Egyptian anti-aircraft artillery opened fire when the targets had already disappeared, but continued to "rumble" a few more minutes. A terrible cannonade stood over the airbase, because of which it was impossible to understand that the air raid had ended, and had not begun. The newly arrived Soviet "agricultural specialists", well-dressed, dressed as one, in white shirts and black trousers, fell into dust and sand, who stood where. The meeting was a success. So the Israeli pilots greeted their new opponents. And you could just bomb ... "
      Intelligence knew who arrives when it abides, and even the place and time of construction. And met second to second. Affectionately. What it looks like when it’s not affectionate - find somewhere a video of the very beginning of the operation "cast lead". Where the perfect brave Hamasniks, in the form, had just, somehow, secretly arrived after studying in Iran, built up, and then flew in. Dozens, if not hundreds, of torn carcasses.
      Air battle, you know - topwar.ru/28353-sovetskie-letchiki-protiv-vvs-izr
      ailya-pobeda-s-suhim-schetom.html
      More serious incident - /www.e-reading.club/chapter.php/145519/79/Grinevs
      kiii _-_ Scenariii_dlya_tret% 27eii_mirovoii_voiiny_
      _Kak_Izrail% 27_chut% 27_ne_stal_ee_prichinoii.html
      This is the result of all previous interventions here. Grunted and calmed down. In general, what got into it got it. I thought it would be serious to mislead, for Israel it was a threat of annihilation, and the reaction was an adequate threat. And they didn’t sit down and drowned. Motivation was then on top, the training of troops too. Of course, there is a problem with resources, but I think that the "peoples of the world" helped as much as they could, with great pleasure helped. But as you don’t try to philosophize about trips for the sake of vacation, you get bullshit.
      Carrot - a carrot worthless tank. All that is good there is a German engine with a gun and an American SLA. Everything else, from layout to engineering solutions, well, that is Jewish, there is complete crap. Again bullshit. Cannon - A new MG253 gun (a variant of the German Rh-120 cannon) was installed on the tank, designed for increased pressure of powder gases. Of course, the development of the German gun, but even so. There are differences. And then about Kalash, you can say that German. OMS - here you are out of habit a little bit of a lie. The MSA has its own Elbit, there was nothing like it, and so far there is no Sov.-Ross. tanks, maybe it will be on armature, but it will be. The engine is German, but hysteria about this is stupid. You have a TV, computer, cell phone, refrigerator. microgal, etc., etc. is everything domestic? You say a big beech tree in military production, do you have all the machines there?
      You can only dream of a device like a Jewish trophy - and yell that this is "complete crap" - complete idiocy.
      What do you dislike about the layout? It increases too much and puts the engine under attack. So to hell with that mass, it doesn’t interfere here, and the engine - well, it seems that battles in the WWII style are not planned. You can find in the photo a few carrots lined and comfort your soul. And you can find photos of not fragile owl cemeteries. technology in Afghanistan, Chechnya, and probably, if you look in Syria. Does the lightness of the T series really help? If you choose to serve your son in a coca tank, in a carrot or carriage. then choose Carrot. Everything else is here, yours, although controversial, but interesting. /topwar.ru/10139-tendencii-modernizacii-tanka-mer
      kava-mk-4-izrail.html
      Ukraine has given up its weapons in return for promises of security from the west and money from the west. Yes, yes it is from and from the West, Jew. And the west threw them, moving his head to his lips (ETOGES Ukrainians ...). Russia was not there at all. We simply agreed to accept these weapons and then safely dispose of them. Or do you think it is still in service with us? You completely wandered old ... I wandered? Why is this clowning
      Who and when signed the Budapest Memorandum



      CONTEXT
      Budapest memorandum
      What did Ukraine sign in 1994?
      Crimea.Realities 06.12.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX
      The memorandum (from the Latin. Memorandum - literally: what should be remembered) is a multilateral agreement that describes a common line of action. Such a document is also called a “first-level agreement”, which should be followed by legally stronger and binding agreements for signatory parties. The signing of the interstate document occurred on December 5, 1994. The leaders of Ukraine, the USA, Russia and Great Britain signed it: Leonid Kuchma, Bill Clinton, Boris Yeltsin and John Major. Two other parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons - France and China - made statements, but did not sign the document.

      What is written in it


      Despite Lavrov’s emphasis on only one of the points in the document, there are much more (points) there. Five commitments:



      Respect the independence, sovereignty and existing borders of Ukraine in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act.

      That is: never, never, never question the borders of Ukraine, established since the country gained independence. Not from the moment of the “referendum” in Crimea, which was recently announced by the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry.



      Refrain from the threat of force or its use against the territorial integrity and political independence of Ukraine and never use any weapons against Ukraine, except for self-defense or in any other way in accordance with the UN Charter.

      That is, it is not only about nuclear weapons, as Lavrov spoke of. The key phrase is “no weapons,” that is, Russia pledges not to use all-all-all weapons.



      In accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to refrain from economic coercion aimed at subordinating to its own interests the exercise by Ukraine of its sovereign rights and thus secure for itself any advantages whatsoever.

      That is, do not blackmail Ukraine, well, for example, with statements “we will turn off the gas for you”.



      Seek immediate action by the UN Security Council to assist Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon non-proliferation treaty state, if it becomes a victim of an act of aggression or is threatened with aggression using nuclear weapons.

      That is, do not veto resolutions in the Security Council aimed at helping Ukraine.



      Do not use nuclear weapons against Ukraine as a state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons that do not possess nuclear weapons, except in the event of an attack on them, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces or their allies by such a state acting together with a state possessing nuclear weapons or related alliance agreement.
  42. ADT
    ADT 7 February 2018 21: 27
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    We continue on the text. It’s to blame for so much pieces and without commas, there is not enough time, well, smart enough, you will sort and understand.
    "At the very top, someone decided (and actually in Washington) that it would be more convenient to buy American planes and thus closed your aircraft industry by planting it on American cars." This is exactly what I wrote. The main one in this matter (and not only in it) was lobbying for the interests of the United States - then Prime Minister Barack. But Lavi, although it was based on the F-16, was a successful aircraft, in terms of versatility, combat radius, ground maneuverability ... and the price is not high. In terms of functionality, it was a strike aircraft with a high level of maneuverability. Here he is mentioned https://topwar.ru/33122-f-22-otvety-na-voprosy.ht
    ml. And the fact that the Chinese have risen on it / Well, and the fact that for the Chinese it’s a breakthrough, I read it on Russian sites more than once, here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxEC11QS3sQ
    “Russia has such a trade with China that everything is clear even like that. And the territorial disputes were settled 10 years ago. So don’t be fanatical here.” Well, right. He didn’t squeeze out a frail piece of land for you, well, it’s not a union that put people for this land, they’re smart, be friends. Yes, and health. https://www.yaplakal.com/forum7/topic1555079.html
    There will be, hutspovichek, do not hesitate Such cries of idiots have been heard for too long. I think they are far from reality. So I doubt it.
    . So what, these evil Ivanes of you, then got from the stoves? Well, this is when civilized Western Aryans pushed you there. Remember that, hutspovik? What kind of stupid UDOD needs to be in order to insert such a muenya in disputes about the Middle East, or military equipment, or modern conflicts? Judging by your writings, you are the spiritual heir of those who at that time did not fight on the Soviet side, in Ukraine such ones appeared more clearly, maybe you should march along with them on the Khreshchatyk. My grandfather fought and died. And I don’t think that you deserve the right to philosophize about those Ivans and Abrams who, unlike you, were normal people and did their job.
    Your pathetic attempt to get to the age of the interlocutor, thereby belittling him .......... I really thought that I was in correspondence with a young impudent gopnik who climbed into VO. Wrong. But since you began, and continued so they write young cheers-morons. And you are an adult. To get fucked how upbringing collapsed!
    "You argue with a person who is smarter than you. And you probably already regretted it." Maybe smarter, but God be with you. But when such a thought magnifies to such a level that you begin to be rude to be rude, and do not disdain lies - with this also to a specialist. About regretted, but cho regret? True, there is a feeling that I entered into something. Well, what to do, it happens, you are standing in a crowded trolley bus, suddenly someone runs inadequate and starts yelling and spitting on everyone.
    "Who is what about a Jew about money." Who about what, and lousy about the bath. ETOGES, you are half a line on finance in export
    reasoned weapons, I simply indicated what part of the stated figures is summed up. And you have some kind of Jewish stake in your head, and you are yours again. This is a gap of logic. To a specialist.
    "The time has come for drop dead stories." The story is not drop dead - real.
    "And as for peace of mind, you just imagine that I am alive in front of you. Above you (185 mine, and you I think lower), stronger than you (sports since childhood) younger than you (under 30 years old). Lying and being rude will immediately overwhelm" Will I shut it down? Have a conscience, I only answer yours, and that is neat, you press the complaint like a real pianist. And my growth is smaller, in the best times of 182, there has never been much strength, probably the mass is not weak (and if you put a screwdriver in the eye, it will increase even more, just kidding), talking about age is vile - a pain point. But you think where I was born, where I lived? Do you think you didn’t have to talk with kami, who, on the basis of growth, did not allow themselves to yell "you are a Jew"? And most often it was nice to see how quickly their worldview changes, even if they won the brawl. You wrote somewhere about broken teeth, it’s stupid to press such a clave at a distance, and even to such a “calm elephant”. What you blurted out can only be verified by experiment. If you are so eager to knock it out, you seem to be able to come with money, I live in Ashdod. I promise I won’t be vile.
    "A direct insult, I will complain to moderator, do you mind?" You spit on quite a few branches with your rudeness, but it never occurred to me to complain, it wasn’t customary for us to do this. And you showed your wit, well done, really a different generation, the same - lost.
    "... I already understood everything about you" such an understanding reaches for the idea that you are smarter and more malicious - to a specialist.
    And about the Golan, then I think more than one extraneous dog should not care about this land.