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Analysis of the situation in Russia from the point of view of the factory engineer-leader.


What is in Russia?

1. The economy is growing slower than the world average. They just got out of the pit and in 2017 achieved 2% growth (and even this due to a rise in world oil prices by 20% and a grain record, part of which has nowhere to go), and in the world the average growth has long been about 2,5% , and our main worst "partner" - about 3%. We are behind! Not only do we have material accumulations (structures, plants, agricultural complexes, roads, submarines, Tanks and so on) is smaller than that of enemies / partners (W / P), so we also accumulate more slowly than they do. But we still have quite liberalism in the export of capital. A decent portion of the proceeds from imports (oil, gas, timber, etc.) the Central Bank (CB) invests in V / P securities, in addition, our E (!) Litas legitimately invests in tangible assets from V / P, and also steals from us , and stolen massively leads to the military base. Do you see the difference, for example, in the behavior of the Central Bank and in the behavior of the government of the Moscow Region under the Governor (and now Senator) Gromov?

Our growth is like growth in tsarist Russia before 1914, when growth percentages were impressive, but profits were exported to the West, mainly to France. That is, our economic growth should be considered not ours, but American, English, etc.

But again, the forum was held named after he-dai-dar. From the point of view of a normal person, he worked as a bank director who opened the vault for a crook. The forum was marked by the unsinkable redhead Elita, who stood on the shuher when stealing from the repository, and further noted by loud victories in stealing the people's means. And with the support of GDP, the governor of the Sverdlovsk region wanted to organize an EXPO-2025 in Yekaterinburg. And then EXPO-2020 lost, and failed to spend, according to various estimates, from 3 to 20 billion dollars (!). After all, what next pyramids, oh, excuse me, the wards, could be built, and then, once every five years, to the glory of the peoples of Russia, hold rallies of market economists from neighboring galaxies!

To those who say that the author is lying (they say how many new cars the people have, and even came up with child support benefits), I answer: with a certain level of development of society, there will be savings even in the absence of economic growth. So we have them, but which are scanty in comparison with those of our Western B / P (I remind you that these are enemies / partners)!

Sad joke to the topic:

If our development depends on oil prices, sanctions and similar crap, then what does the government do?

2. Culture and ideology. I don’t know what to say if the presidential press secretary, the real state adviser of the 1 class (the highest civilian rank in the Russian Federation), goes to a performance directed by Serebrennikov, who is under investigation for the disappearance of state money in the theater. The performance is dedicated to the lower spinal preferences of the dancer Nureyev and the color of the country's intelligentsia was noted at the premiere. And the press secretary considers Venediktov from Gazprom Echo of Moscow his friend. Here they are, spiritual bonds! Artists with the help of the state (do not confuse the state and the country!) Are completely detached from their mission - to sow sensible, good, eternal. And we wonder why these children in school go with knives, light a cigarette from the Eternal Flame and mock their classmates and animals.

There is no need for a sad joke. Or go like this:

What are the times, such and songs. Culture at a meeting in the Central Committee of the CPSU: "Yes, we have not done everything for our people, for our audience, for our culture." The cultural figures of the president of the Russian Federation: “Yes, the state and society have not done everything for us, cultural figures!”

3. The medicine. On my site there is no fixed therapist. She quit from huge loads and with a salary of about 25 thousand for one and a half of the rate, and this is a doctor, not a paramedic. In clinics, girls-paramedics work as general practitioners; they try, but experience and knowledge are few, and often these girls, when receiving patients from patient, run to the senior therapist for help — and back to the patient. And the nurses receive 15 thousands, many of them raise a child ... According to statistics, more and more doctors, and according to the Ministry of Health, more and more doctors ... not enough!

Sad joke to the topic:

The little imp on the left shoulder is angry:
- Get out of medicine, who needs you here with your humanism? You'll go crazy!
On the other shoulder, a tearful angel whispers:
- Hey, but he says it.

4. Education. Eleventh grade is engaged only in preparation for the exam. Who has problems - forward to paid tutors. And no free circles! No money - no development for your child! High school is a separate song. The bulk of graduates with engineering degrees pulls only on the 70 — 80's technical school. And young people, in my opinion, are smarter than we are at the same age, but there is at least a minimum of engineering knowledge and skills after university. Yes, and reluctantly go to the engineers. It’s not for nothing that the humanities scholarship dean of the Moscow State University (MGU) journalism department said: “And this year we recruited aliens.” It is about the twos in the dictations of the first-year students at the beginning of their studies. Yes, you listen to the announcers of TV and radio, they do not know the declination of numerals! I, who has a triple in Russian at school, is ashamed of them! And not teachers are guilty, they were put in such conditions. Remember that in 2016 our prime minister advised a young teacher to do business if the state pays little money?

Sad joke in the subject. Even two:

Right from Fursenk and Lyavanov. The head of the adin about Ruski language is how to explain: “here” or “here”.

The Society of Young Teachers, Doctors, Educators and Nurses believes that the basic salary of parliamentarians and ministers in 400 is thousand rubles. redundant, because the living wage they set about 10 thousand rubles.

5. Foreign policy. Our main "partner" spent 5 billion dollars and received from Ukraine an evil enemy for us. Only since 2000, we allowed to steal and gave Ukraine much more than 100 billion dollars. And what did we get? At the end of last year, our president forgave Kyrgyzstan the next debts. And Kyrgyzstan immediately made 7 November the day to commemorate the victims of the Russian tsarist regime. Our president even forgave debts for Gaddafi, and in those days ANY Libyan could study at Eton or Cambridge at the expense of the state. Show me our foreign policy successes. I see that we have one good comrade (but not friend) - this is Belarus. And just a friend - China. And there are no friends. Now, if we were economically developing at 7% per year, then there would be a line of people willing to learn and make friends. In the meantime, the irrepressible desire to please everyone and not to offend anyone leads only to contempt for the willing and the desire to “shod” and “bend”. Our main "partner" respects North Korea more!

Sad joke to the topic:

Report by Minister Lavrov:
- The attitude to Russia of our foreign partners is still very complicated.
Question to the speaker:
- Sergey Viktorovich, and you definitely do not embellish?

6. Defense. Enraged by the constant postponement of the commissioning of new ships, rockets, airplanes, etc. I remember that in decent organizations when they repeatedly failed to fulfill promises, the perpetrator was asked to write a statement of his own accord. This is the best scenario for the culprit. A "success" in space - with billions of losses! This is already beyond the limits!

Sad joke to the topic:

After what Rogozin did with the space program, he should marry at least Tereshkova.

* * *

Recently I argued with a familiar, honest and intelligent man. He is more than 80 years old and, naturally, receives information on the first and second buttons of the TV. He believes that in the country of disgrace from top to bottom, but it is necessary to choose the GDP, which is about to cope with idlers, thieves, talkers, enemies. On questions about the non-fulfillment of the GDP of their promises, about who put forward these useless ones, why the “Kudyshnye” did not appear over the 18 years, the acquaintance replies that you should vote for the GDP for the people. That's what life-giving TV does! It obligingly and competently brings the ready conclusions from the constant allocation of one person in the country.

Sad joke to the topic:

- Vitek, as the plant was closed, and you can not get a job?
- Well.
- As Serdyukov and Vasilyev were punished for grand theft, you know?
- Well.
- And what conclusions?
- Obama and Trump schmuck.

* * *

Question to the author: “And what?”

Author's answer: “Nyche!” This is only information for consideration.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 20 January 2018 06: 03
    50
    This is only information for consideration.
    so everyone thinks ... one how to stay at the feeding trough, and therefore, for the Acting, even in the font, at least in the church, and others understand that if the situation is not changed, then they will die in poverty.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 20 January 2018 06: 44
      26
      Dadcasty Today, 06:03
      for the Acting, even in the font, even in the church

      This time the GDP “pierced”, that that sign of the Cross does not look like the Orthodox at all.
      Although later, in the temple, he was already baptized correctly. So maybe the flimsy thing is this? recourse
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 20 January 2018 07: 15
        39
        does not look like it.
        and he is not baptized, but the electorate is raking.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 20 January 2018 14: 56
          13
          Kodla offended fulfills the west,
          You have problems, but of course Putin is to blame. wassat
          The same crap about Putin’s guilt in all the failures of the West is broadcast daily by CNN and another bunch of prostitutes.

          We don’t know what to do around the mess. Putin is to blame. wassat wassat wassat

          Problems and a mess in your head, offended. But of course the Kremlin is to blame laughing lol wassat
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 20 January 2018 16: 00
            40
            but of course Putin is to blame.
            I agree. Putin is not to blame. And also not to blame. Yeltsin and Gorbachev. I hope everyone understands. that neither Medvedev. nor Nabiullina. no others are to blame for anything. moreover, they are not all responsible for everything.
          2. Galleon
            Galleon 20 January 2018 16: 01
            37
            Vladimir, in 2000, when Putin began to steer, the 92nd gasoline cost 6 rubles 73 kopecks per liter. Now - 40 p. He does not know, they did not report to him? There is nothing to be done, is such a fight against inflation? Stop making people laugh. Everyone has already stopped laughing.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 20 January 2018 16: 58
              16
              Quote: Galleon
              Vladimir, in 2000, when Putin began to steer, the 92nd gasoline cost 6 rubles 73 kopecks per liter. Now - 40 p.

              And you do not tell me what the salary was in 2000? I remember - I had 2 thousand at that time. And now 30 thousand - the difference is 15 times! So, if you count for money, then gasoline should cost: 6 rubles. Multiply by 15 - it turns out 90 rubles! But the price of gas is now half as much! Is not it? Is Putin again to blame?
              1. Galleon
                Galleon 20 January 2018 19: 08
                20
                Salary in 2000 I had 400 in green money. Now about 1170. In your opinion, should I multiply 3 times? Do we live in different countries or is something wrong with your calculation? Why am I measuring in that very money - because their purchasing power compared to the ruble has remained virtually unchanged. What they do with the ruble is a separate song.
              2. Deck
                Deck 20 January 2018 19: 43
                +9
                And we have hard workers in the 90s, and 2000s, and now about $ 1000. So can gasoline pour 6 rubles 73 kopecks per liter?
              3. Train
                Train 21 January 2018 12: 20
                +3
                no need to tryndet- 7-8 thousand salary was, do not drive gray.
                1. Freeman
                  Freeman 21 January 2018 14: 08
                  +1
                  Quote: Zug
                  no need to tryndet- 7-8 thousand salary was, do not drive gray.

                  It depends on where and in what area. In 2000, my salary was 500 bucks (well, no one canceled the "trophies" winked ) Confectioner, Moscow, work in restaurants and hotels.
                  In 2008, he returned to the plant, according to the stories of "old-timers", in the late 90s - "the beginning of the zero", the machine tool workers "drove" up to 1000 bucks due to "overtime", "covens" and "leftist".
                  1. amr
                    amr 21 January 2018 14: 54
                    +2
                    I graduated from the institute in 2002, the first salary of $ 100 then the next 2-3 years did not rise above 300-400, this is subject to covens and 2nd work ...
                    but it was in the Crimea in UKRAINE))) that in prinu = tsype essentially does not change
                2. Deck
                  Deck 23 January 2018 16: 41
                  +1
                  He closed the outfits. 1997 - 6900 rub, from 1998 to 2013 from 24 tr to 55 tr now 60-65 tr Maybe your qualifications did not allow you to get more? Yes, the place is Peter.
            2. RomanS
              RomanS 23 January 2018 13: 50
              +2
              Hello to all Americans on the forum! The dollar (bucks, green, greens, etc.) is the US currency. So can you discuss YOUR president, Trump for example? What do you care about Putin? You made your choice, and today it works. And then, as always, the policy of double standards!
          3. Ivan58
            Ivan58 20 January 2018 19: 22
            29
            The main advantage of a leader of any rank is the ability to work with personnel, and the ability to demand the fulfillment of his orders. Damn, for 18 years, you could probably have prepared, a sensible Prime Minister, Minister of Finance, Chubais with a jigsaw to send a logger. And then shuffles from place to place Nabiulina with Golikova, Gref, etc. So, before thinking with your tongue, think.
          4. Stas
            Stas 20 January 2018 20: 00
            27
            Quote: Vladimir16
            Kodla offended fulfills the west,
            You have problems, but of course Putin is to blame.

            Well what are you saying! Of course, gentlemen Putin and Medvedev are great, these are the Russian people "stupid and ungrateful." Now I’ll fall off the chair.
          5. V. Salama
            V. Salama 20 January 2018 22: 47
            +5
            Quote: Vladimir16
            Kodla offended fulfills the west,
            You have problems, but of course Putin is to blame. wassat
            The same crap about Putin’s guilt in all the failures of the West is broadcast daily by CNN and another bunch of prostitutes.

            What does Putin have to do with it? As a person, as an official, as a President, finally ...? I recall one statement, no matter whose: "Small minds discuss personalities, medium ones discuss events, great ones discuss ideas." Let's pretend to be great and reason at the level of abstractions. In fact, domestic policy is the management of socio-economic processes in the country. Pretending to be an abstract-universal definition of the concept of what is management - Management is process A for consciously regulating a process in order to increase its effectiveness. (I’ll digress a bit: here we do not raise wages at the workplace due to the lack of growth in labor productivity, and among representatives of the managing subsystem it grows systematically. The question is why, if labor productivity is by definition a management function? Yes, because under our control " managers "often understand the following:" U. - there is an art to do their work with the wrong hands. "Not a damn slave-owning approach). So, the subject of management policy (process A) stands above the process and subject B and bears full responsibility for the effective functioning of the managed subsystem. But if you think that the state is the main subject of politics, then you are mistaken. The state in this scheme is more a means of controlling (politics) an object (controlled by subsystem B). Schematically: Subject - means - Object. Modern society always has three subsystems connected by a single ideology, albeit unofficial, it is A, B and priesthood. The latter has the highest political power. In Soviet times, it was known by name - the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee, under capitalism it is always behind the scenes, in our case it is a comprador offshore financial oligarchy. So what does Putin have to do with it? "The president is not power, it is a screen of power, power is something that cannot be rotated." So why blame the tool, the tool. Although the one who is in the service of a thief, distrust arouses no less than the thief himself and we also do not need him.
            1. V. Salama
              V. Salama 20 January 2018 22: 52
              +3
              PS for some reason, the letter "B" was not printed and does not allow to be corrected. should read "Management is process A for consciously regulating process B in order to ..."
          6. Train
            Train 21 January 2018 12: 17
            +8
            And who is to blame? - Did you take an oath on the constitution? -Yes-GUILT!
          7. Antianglosax
            Antianglosax 22 January 2018 09: 34
            +4
            Quote: Vladimir16
            We don’t know what to do around the mess. Putin is to blame.
            Problems and a mess in your head, offended. But of course the Kremlin is to blame

            No, of course, Eun is to blame.
            Does Putin have a mess and orgy of the 5th column and outright enemies in the country, or someone else? I repeat once again - shame on Putin & company (and with them the whole country) have already received a fair amount and more. No one doubts that we will teach war. The question is - why grovel in front of the West and lick their soles? There is no longer any desire to even just talk about the Kremlin rubbish; we have nothing in common.
            1. RomanS
              RomanS 23 January 2018 13: 44
              0
              Easy to rant in the comfort of the monitor. Try to chat with North Koreans at the household level. There is a completely different life.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 23 January 2018 13: 51
                0
                Quote: RomanS
                Try to chat with North Koreans at the household level. There is a completely different life.

                It is difficult for us and Ukrainians to communicate now - for the most part they believe that Putin attacked them. And in general in Ukraine, a different life is what we know without North Korea.
                https://ok.ru/video/429188649246?fromTime=2
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 20 January 2018 07: 39
        12
        I wonder how Sobchak was baptized, and Saakashvili. Something did not find the video. And Putin probably froze. Could heat up the water.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 20 January 2018 08: 16
          11
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Could heat up the water.

          All ukroSMI noted that the water was heated, because the park was coming from the water. But they didn’t note how they crossed themselves. Well, maybe he just waved his hand at everything?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 20 January 2018 09: 29
            +9
            And it seems like you need to dive three times. And he is two. Disorder again. sad
        2. AnpeL
          AnpeL 20 January 2018 09: 02
          10
          I wonder how Sobchak was baptized, and Saakashvili.

          These crosshairs begin to burn with a blue flame, therefore there is no such video
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 20 January 2018 09: 25
            +8
            Sobchak, after swimming in the sheep-river, it’s unlikely to get much more. Interestingly, many politicians once in a lifetime get into the water in winter, and that’s all.
      3. 210ox
        210ox 20 January 2018 09: 40
        +1
        When you get out of this water, you will immediately forget where the head is and where the shoulders are ...
        Quote: Freeman
        Dadcasty Today, 06:03
        for the Acting, even in the font, even in the church

        This time the GDP “pierced”, that that sign of the Cross does not look like the Orthodox at all.
        Although later, in the temple, he was already baptized correctly. So maybe the flimsy thing is this? recourse
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 20 January 2018 09: 58
          10
          Dear 210kv, bathing in the font is the power of habit, there is nothing wrong with that. I’ve been swimming for quite a while. smile
        2. Freeman
          Freeman 20 January 2018 15: 13
          +4
          210quq Today, 09:40
          When you get out of this water, you will immediately forget where the head is and where the shoulders are ...

          As if to him in the first.
          Spokesman for the Russian President Dmitry Peskov said that the Russian leader has for many years been committed to swimming in the hole in Epiphany.
          https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/471888-tradici
          ya-putin-kreschenskie-kupaniya
        3. Svist
          Svist 22 January 2018 09: 20
          +3
          When I looked, I thought it seemed that I crossed myself from left to right. Then in the temple I was already carefully looking - right. But no! Exactly Catholic. IMHO - window dressing.
      4. Knowing
        Knowing 20 January 2018 10: 26
        12
        Quote: Freeman
        This time the GDP “pierced”, that that sign of the Cross does not look like the Orthodox at all.

        Well, yes, one Grudinin you have without punctures, the most "popular" candidate. laughing
        1. Wayfarer
          Wayfarer 20 January 2018 10: 37
          45
          Quote: Knowing
          Grudinin you have no punctures, the most "popular" candidate.
          Grudinin is a popular candidate without any quotes. Putin to Grudinin, in this sense, as to the moon on foot.
          And in the last photo - this is a present from Grudinin to your sponsors - oligarchs good .
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 20 January 2018 11: 07
            18
            Question to the author: “And what?”
            Author’s response: “Nothing!”

            The men rebelled, went to the master! He comes out all so imposing: What are you guys? And the men are wrinkling, they don’t know what to say, so they dispersed silently.
            A sneaker sits, eats empty cabbage soup. And suddenly, as a fist on the table: Che, Che? - nothing !
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            1. ivankursk46
              ivankursk46 20 January 2018 13: 19
              +2
              What idea? He goes from the Communist Party, there to communism as to the moon
              1. Speedy
                Speedy 20 January 2018 13: 24
                +3
                Yes, which is what we are talking about in general. The Communist Party marginalized the idea of ​​communism and in the current situation with the current people, social society is in principle impossible. It was necessary, as in some countries, to freeze the idea of ​​building socialism in general for some time. And they stupidly exploit the nostalgia of citizens of the former USSR.
          3. St Petrov
            St Petrov 20 January 2018 14: 11
            11
            answer sternin - your pre-election account for the VO and a joint campaign "to power" with bulk and Khodorkovsky

            Your victory will be only in VO when you give each other shoulder straps from the marshal and above love

            And then 6 years of tears and moans on the forum

            Now you are a little bit offended by the photo, demons wassat

            1. Overlock
              Overlock 20 January 2018 23: 43
              16
              good photo i like. Plusan. Well done, that the army and navy are developing. That's just a problem with you! No one here objects to this!
              You can make another one, maybe you will like it?

              well, you do not mind?
              1. 210ox
                210ox 21 January 2018 07: 49
                +8
                Petrov does not see this, and probably does not want to. Blinders in front of him ..
                Quote: Overlock
                good photo i like. Plusan. Well done, that the army and navy are developing. That's just a problem with you! No one here objects to this!
                You can make another one, maybe you will like it?

                well, you do not mind?
              2. V. Salama
                V. Salama 21 January 2018 10: 52
                11
                Quote: Overlock
                ... No one here objects to this!

                I don’t even know how to object. Against this thought with which you want to reach out of course, do not mind. But what is concomitant makes you sad: The content of the President, in accordance with the relevant budget line, costs 41 million rubles. in a day. The maintenance of the pensioner - at 442 rubles per day. But if the same pensioner continues to vote for this President, then this distribution of resources should be recognized as fair.
                "... Formally, everything is correct, but essentially a continuous mockery ..." V.I. Lenin
                Vladimir Ilyich is certainly right, but what can we do, where is morality, where is logic?
          4. esaul
            esaul 20 January 2018 14: 21
            +8
            Quote: Traveler
            Quote: Knowing
            Grudinin you have no punctures, the most "popular" candidate.
            Grudinin is a popular candidate without any quotes. Putin to Grudinin, in this sense, as to the moon on foot.
            And in the last photo - this is a present from Grudinin to your sponsors - oligarchs good .

            ABOUT! Of course! He thinks about the people day and night, he cannot eat straight!
            https://ok.ru/video/528945648082
          5. Old shoe
            Old shoe 20 January 2018 16: 39
            12
            Grudinin is a popular candidate without any quotes. Putin to Grudinin, in this sense, as to the moon on foot.

            What are you saying! I saw how the "red directors" pulled out enterprises, drove people out on unpaid leave, and on the doorway of the checkpoint hung an ad: "We buy shares of the plant" And people walked and sold for a penny! And where to go? Children need to be fed! I went through it myself. The real communists are those who worked hard in the workshops, and all those who are now in the Communist Party and close by are people without honor and conscience!
            Sorry if I express myself too sharply, but to believe the current Communists and others like them ... well, you have to be ... how softer ... naive!
            1. V. Salama
              V. Salama 21 January 2018 10: 38
              +9
              Quote: Old Shoe
              ... I saw how the "red directors" pulled out enterprises, drove people out on unpaid leave, and an announcement was posted on the entrance door: ...

              Anhydride in your manganese oxide, I'm sorry if I express myself too sharply, but where is the logic? And then, instead of resentment - nothing ... If the "current communists" are not communists, then why are the past "red directors" real communists?
              Quote: Old Shoe
              Real communists are those who worked hard in the shops ...
              And if you think about it? What, the walls of the workshop are so sacred that from anyone who worked there, is it a real communist? I went to the temple many times - I did not become a believer. Yes, in the party that was in power, a lot of all the riffraff climbed, but "there was no protection from ...," and even now it is gone. But still try to compare Grudinin with your "red director" and see the difference, how much you can understand not only in people (personality qualities, motives of behavior) but also in their deeds and programs of action.
            2. V. Salama
              V. Salama 21 January 2018 13: 35
              +3
              Quote: Old Shoe
              ... Children need to be fed!
              100% without sarcasm, I hope now everything is acceptable, but we should not only think about our own stomachs ... ..... or should not? For the state is not offensive?
          6. woron333444
            woron333444 21 January 2018 09: 48
            +1
            Wayfarer If Grudinin has 7 billion. greens, then with what amount do you think the oligarchs begin? Near the country in chocolate haunts some, they want Russia in strawberries.
            1. Freeman
              Freeman 21 January 2018 15: 08
              13
              Quote: woron333444
              Wayfarer If Grudinin has 7 billion. greens, then how much do you think the oligarchs begin with? Near the country in chocolate haunts some, they want Russia in strawberries.

              ABOUT! Already the amount went to 7 billion. Greens. Why not 7 billion bitcoins? fool
        2. Freeman
          Freeman 20 January 2018 12: 19
          11
          Knowing Today, 10:26
          Well, yes, one Grudinin you have without punctures

          I have not claimed this anywhere. With foreign accounts, Grudinin turned up tightly.
          And the fact that the CEC, in spite of this, registered it, only says that the candidacy was agreed with the Kremlin. Grudinin’s figure was needed to increase interest in the elections and, accordingly, turnout at them. But something went wrong. “New Horse” took a too sharp start and now they are trying to besiege it by all means. IMHO.
          Let's see how further events will develop.
          1. Wayfarer
            Wayfarer 20 January 2018 13: 24
            12
            Quote: Freeman
            Grudinin's foreign accounts turned up tightly.
            There was nothing strong there, an ordinary situation. Grudinin is clean before the law.
            Quote: Freeman
            candidacy was agreed with the Kremlin
            This is your candidacy agreed with the oligarchs.
            Quote: Freeman
            The figure of Grudinin was needed to increase interest in the elections and, accordingly, turnout at them.
            All you know, you are clearly an agent of the Kremlin.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 20 January 2018 14: 18
              +8
              There was nothing strong there, an ordinary situation. Grudinin is clean before the law.


              how cute ok you worked now laughing

              you can write a picture in oil (or strawberry jam): "In the hope of falling to the trough."

              take screenshots of your posts - and believe in the daylight of the Sovkhoz cooperative
            2. Freeman
              Freeman 20 January 2018 16: 29
              +2
              Traveler Today, 13:24
              Grudinin is clean before the law.

              Clean, so clean. "The law that draws ..."
              This is your candidacy agreed with the oligarchs.

              Yes. It is a pity the State Department has not approved.
              Eh ... And what ... what kind of program did I have ... Grub from a belly ...

              All you know, you are clearly an agent of the Kremlin.

          2. esaul
            esaul 20 January 2018 14: 26
            +8
            Quote: Freeman
            And the fact that the CEC, in spite of this, registered it, only says that the candidacy was agreed with the Kremlin.

            You’re just like a crest - you see the Kremlin’s hand in everything laughing
            In my opinion, they simply did not raise a storm in a glass of water. The fact of hiding accounts was revealed after the CEC had already issued all the docks and put pressure on the brake, this means raising a wave of srach from the Communist Party and its adherents. Therefore, they decided to lower the brakes, but bring the revealed information to the electorate, so that the people would move their brains and think on the topic - who is hu.
            1. Freeman
              Freeman 20 January 2018 17: 58
              0
              Quote: esaul
              Quote: Freeman
              And the fact that the CEC, in spite of this, registered it, only says that the candidacy was agreed with the Kremlin.

              You’re just like a crest - you see the Kremlin’s hand in everything laughing

              In a state where "sovereign democracy" is governed by the "vertical of power", the "arm of the Kremlin" as the notorious gopher - you do not see it, but it is. Otherwise, why a government that does not manage anything.
              In the program of Grudinin, I am concerned about the item on the state council.
              On the one hand, this post was promised to them by Zyuganov.
              http://tass.ru/politika/4850273
              On the other hand, similar plans were announced back in 2016 (an article on VO "Volodin’s appointment: Putin closes the question of Yeltsin’s legacy")
              And the post was conceived for Putin. By the way, the State Council exists today, in the form of an advisory body. And Grudinin proposes to make him constitutional, with the powers of the chairman above the presidential.
              Here is an article with such a conspiracy version
              http://gipoteza.net/novosti/item/5014-chto-grudin
              in-poobeshchal-putinu

              Here is a video with such a hypothesis
              (you can skip liberoid delusions and watch from 9.21)

              Threat. I heard about such plans back in 2016 (see the article on VO)
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          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 20 January 2018 16: 28
            20
            he is liberal
            turn upside down. Your Putin is liberal and proud of it. He is much more than proud of the Mannerheim board. boy that does not want to protect athletes ...
        4. Overlock
          Overlock 20 January 2018 12: 42
          +5
          someone, and you Grudinin! Do not go in cycles, he is not worthy of Putin's heels!
          1. Wayfarer
            Wayfarer 20 January 2018 14: 11
            +5
            Quote: Overlock
            someone, and you Grudinin! Do not go in cycles, he is not worthy of Putin's heels!
            Grudinin is worthy of the heel of God.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 20 January 2018 14: 19
              +9
              laughing what kind of adish I read in a conversation between two intellectuals of a traveler and an overlock

              did you get into an election fever? will let go soon.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 20 January 2018 15: 06
                +5
                hi we ask you to take part in such an intelligent dispute
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 20 January 2018 15: 23
                  +4
                  you yourself are better among each other. engage in forum struggles and amuse yourself with hopes laughing
                  1. Overlock
                    Overlock 20 January 2018 15: 26
                    +4
                    yeah, it happened
                  2. V. Salama
                    V. Salama 21 January 2018 12: 56
                    +5
                    Quote: s-t Petrov
                    ... engage in forum struggles and comfort yourself with hopes

                    So many volumes have been written by clever people about the meaning of "forum struggles" for real politics that no sarcasm and juggling is impressive. Regarding "comforting oneself with hopes," it does not hurt either - everyone comforts oneself with hopes. You hope that in the summer you’ll warm your ass in the Crimea, so what? But here is what you should know, however, that the methods used by opponents in the controversy clearly reveal on whose side the truth is. Of course, the concept of "truth" is party and I am not going to speak on behalf of the people about the people's truth. But your truth is definitely not my truth, and you have greatly strengthened me in your own beliefs. Thank you so much for this.
              2. Wayfarer
                Wayfarer 20 January 2018 16: 08
                +8
                Quote: s-t Petrov
                swept the election fever?
                You are wrong. This thing is not available to you, called the love of the motherland.
            2. Overlock
              Overlock 20 January 2018 15: 05
              +4
              everyone is worthy of something
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              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 20 January 2018 15: 27
                +9
                Golovan Jack, it's funny to watch at least. Moreover, they themselves know that this is not an option at all and that only a 6-year struggle with the regime is ahead.

                It gives me pleasure to watch my opponents grimace and defecate with cheap sparkling impulses.

                But, at times, annoying. It should be sooner than March 19, spring, the sun, kebabs, mashlyk!

                Then I will go to Crimea on the new bridge and I will remember how it all happened.

                Opponents will also go, but they will be in a bad mood and again curse all this disgrace
                1. Wayfarer
                  Wayfarer 20 January 2018 16: 15
                  15
                  Quote: s-t Petrov
                  Golovan Jack, it's funny to watch at least. Moreover, they themselves know that this is not an option at all and that only a 6-year struggle with the regime is ahead.
                  It reminds me of a conversation at Vlasov’s headquarters: "Well, what are they hoping for there? Naive. The Wehrmacht is stronger by definition, crushed Europe, there is no hope. You have to be patient, then you will survive, you will get your liver."
                  The war of liberation will continue, the yoke will be dropped, victory will be ours.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 16: 34
                    +8
                    Quote: Traveler
                    victory will be ours

                    There isn’t enough tyam. Victory, panimish ...
                    You really can’t connect the two words ... winner negative
                    1. Wayfarer
                      Wayfarer 20 January 2018 17: 19
                      +8
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      You really can’t connect the two words ... winner
                      You have run out of lies and slander, I suppose, only slurred verbiage remains, and there is not far from masturbation, be careful to head off.
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 17: 24
                        +7
                        Quote: Traveler
                        You have run out of lies and slander

                        Well, where am I going to you ... you have this supply ... almost inexhaustible fellow
                        Quote: Traveler
                        only slurred bleating remains

                        Yeah ... I was very amused by your run over to the moderator.
                        Judging by the fact that you are still not in the bathhouse, you have simply been ignored.
                        In general, it’s right ...
                        No one is offended by Gd
                2. Overlock
                  Overlock 21 January 2018 20: 45
                  +2
                  It looks like a warrant officer report to the battalion commander, how much servility!
                3. Svist
                  Svist 22 January 2018 10: 02
                  +3
                  Quote: s-t Petrov
                  it's funny to watch at least. Moreover, they themselves know that this is not an option at all and that only a 6-year struggle with the regime is ahead.
                  It gives me pleasure to watch my opponents grimace and defecate with cheap sparkling impulses.

                  How much aplomb, what erudition! What a conceit! Poured gentleman, by golly! Do you know how to do anything except tongue wagging?
              2. Overlock
                Overlock 20 January 2018 15: 27
                +3
                this is mutual sarcasm, do not take for the truth
              3. Wayfarer
                Wayfarer 20 January 2018 16: 10
                +8
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                On the forehead, with a good swing
                I kind of did boxing, so I sympathize with your pipe dreams.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 19: 10
                  +7
                  Quote: Traveler
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  On the forehead, with a good swing
                  I kind of did boxing, so I sympathize with your pipe dreams.

                  About forehead and heel (Gd) - belonged to candidate G. With antennae and strawberry smell.
                  Do you need to Gardamirto meet you, he also says that ... he shoots well laughing
                  And here she’s also trying to troll ... yes
                  1. Gardamir
                    Gardamir 20 January 2018 22: 14
                    +6
                    He speaks,
                    is your pooch alive?
      5. iouris
        iouris 20 January 2018 12: 06
        +2
        Paris is worth the Mass.
      6. Wolverine
        Wolverine 20 January 2018 12: 28
        +2
        It turns out not one I noticed ... recourse
    2. Wayfarer
      Wayfarer 20 January 2018 10: 33
      34
      Thinking gives two options: vote for Putin and the oligarchs with their offshore and plunder the country, or vote for Grudinin and the people. Everything is simple. I choose Grudinin.
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      2. seos
        seos 20 January 2018 12: 34
        +5
        So you chose the United States and its pocket oligarchy .... you betrayed the homeland ...
      3. saigon
        saigon 20 January 2018 12: 37
        10
        Mr. traveler, and what side is the exploiter of the working people, Mr. Grudin, and yes, right after all for the people?
        Putin, oligarchs, offshore - Grudin, oligarchs, offshore what changes or oligarchs on the day of Grudin’s victory will succumb massively in protest and awareness of their detrimental influence on the life of Russia.
        Actually, it’s very interesting who added the (bourgeois) title of national candidate to the nominee from gentlemen from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation?
        It’s a very lovely situation.
        PS. I do not choose Sternum!
        1. Wayfarer
          Wayfarer 20 January 2018 13: 21
          +8
          Quote: saigon
          Mr. traveler
          "Comrade Traveler," I’m not your master.
          Quote: saigon
          Grudin and yes, right for the people?
          Open your eyes and look at the results of his work. It's simple.
          Quote: saigon
          Sternum, oligarchs,
          You lie and slander, Grudinin is not an oligarch and he does not have money in offshore companies.
          Quote: saigon
          nominee from the gentlemen of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation
          Grudinin represents all the patriots of Russia, including the Communist Party.
          Quote: saigon
          It’s a very lovely situation.
          You choose the oligarchs and the looting of the people, you are the fifth column.
          1. saigon
            saigon 20 January 2018 16: 50
            +8
            But you need to read carefully! Grudin, the oligarchs in the text are separated by commas, like Putin and the oligarchs!
            And what outstanding results did Mr. Grudin show?
            But the list of all patriots do not announce? All this is somehow extremely blurry no specifics.
            And who gave you the right to call me the fifth column? Yes, I do not like and do not inspire confidence the character of the capitalist going to power with the Communist Party in an embrace (where conscience and decency where).
            I directly and openly say I do not believe the brow from the word at all.
            So in my understanding, Grudin is not the kind of person who can vote for.
            Yes, and I will no longer vote for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. The fortress is too foul with the candidate these gentlemen issued.
            My country of the USSR has already been stolen and ruined from me once and I also do not want to see such collapse from Russia with such sorry Lord candidates like patriots!
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 19: 15
            12
            Quote: Traveler
            Grudinin is not an oligarch and he does not have money in offshore

            Not now. Until 08.01. this year - were.
            By the way, where it’s their affairs is still unclear.
            He told the journalists ... for some reason he refused.
            Quote: Traveler
            Grudinin represents all the patriots of Russiaincluding the Communist Party

            I know many Russian patriots whom Grudinin does not represent.
            Quote: Traveler
            I choose Grudinin

            Freedom - the will. Just do not impose this choice on others ... you have become too much. For you yes
            1. saigon
              saigon 20 January 2018 21: 14
              +2
              as it was not long ago, the traveler appeared and everything suffers for the sternum, but some of the nuances of the Russian language do not penetrate. Something does not trust such agitators,
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 20 January 2018 12: 59
      10
      Quote: Dead Day
      therefore, for the Acting, even in the font, even in the church, and others understand that if the situation is not changed, then they will die in poverty.

      Yes, they have already changed once - in 1991. Something like jumping off a mattress hook. We still disentangle. Well, let's experiment again and then the mattresses probably will not miss the opportunity to finally finish Russia by dividing it into 5-8 independent, but very “friendly” states, while cutting the population of Russians to the planned 15 million people, enough to service pipes and deposits. Probably forgot how “hearty and fat” lived in the 90s?
      1. Wayfarer
        Wayfarer 20 January 2018 14: 08
        10
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        dividing it into 5-8 independent, but very "friendly"
        Are you sure that this is beneficial for the West? laughing It is beneficial for the West that oil and gas flow smoothly to Europe. Why should Europe arrange a new redistribution in Russia? It is not profitable for them. Putin is completely satisfied with the west and oil prices have been rising for the past half a year - this is the real support of the USA before the elections.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 20 January 2018 14: 21
          +6
          Quote: Traveler
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          dividing it into 5-8 independent, but very "friendly"
          Are you sure that this is beneficial for the West? laughing It is beneficial for the West that oil and gas flow smoothly to Europe. Why should Europe arrange a new redistribution in Russia? It is not profitable for them. Putin is completely satisfied with the west and oil prices have been rising for the last half of the year - this is the real support of the USA before the elections.
          Ahem !? Are you serious? The West really lit up the prospect of losing global dominance in general, and you are talking about oil. For the West, Russia is not so much an economic threat as a military one. Partitioning Russia will nullify its nuclear triad; it will allow its military power to be nullified, which will allow Western corporations to establish their protectorate over the breakaway bits of the Russian Empire from which economic and energy resources will be pumped out practically without fear, without fear of receiving an impudent physiognomy. If Putin had suited them, then there would be no question of any sanctions.
          1. Wayfarer
            Wayfarer 20 January 2018 16: 02
            +5
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            The West really lit up the prospect of losing global dominance in general
            Only Russia, what side here? All claims to China.
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            The partition of Russia will nullify its nuclear triad
            Siberia, the Far East and Moscow will inherit nuclear power, but, God forbid, a civil war will lead to serious problems for everyone.
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            set your protectorate over the breakaways
            Look at the 90s, everything has long been established. Have you slept all this time?
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            from which economic and energy resources will be pumped out practically for nothing,
            Now what is happening, isn't it? Oil and gas leaves, and the people are poor. Look at Saudi Arabia, the situation there is fundamentally different from ours.
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            If Putin had suited them, then there would be no question of any sanctions.
            Was the West supposed to somehow react to the annexation of Crimea? Should. So much for the sanctions. But keep in mind, if the annexation of Crimea was contrary to the interests of the United States, then there would be no accession at all.
            1. Captain45
              Captain45 20 January 2018 19: 04
              +6
              Quote: Traveler
              Siberia, the Far East and Moscow will inherit nuclear power, but, God forbid, a civil war will lead to serious problems for everyone.

              Those. Have you already decided everything? Have you already shared everything with anyone that will come from Russia? Well, you and ... a bad person. Come on, traveler, where far away from Russia, to those who dream of sharing it.
              1. woron333444
                woron333444 21 January 2018 10: 01
                +3
                A traveler is the voice of the State Department. And how much of this psaki do not explain to him everything, like a parrot, some words in his head, but it would be better if his brains.
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 20 January 2018 19: 25
              +7
              Quote: Traveler
              Was the West supposed to somehow react to the annexation of Crimea? Should. So much for the sanctions. But keep in mind, if the annexation of Crimea was contrary to the interests of the United States, then there would be no accession at all.
              Greater nonsense was not read.
              Quote: Traveler
              from which economic and energy resources will be pumped out practically for nothing,
              Now what is happening, isn't it? Oil and gas leaves, and the people are poor. Look at Saudi Arabia, the situation there is fundamentally different from ours.

              You do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs. Until 2000, the export of energy from Russia was not taxed at all, i.e. the Russian treasury chronically did not receive any deductions for the exported raw materials, and the people, accordingly, were also in the promotion. As for S. Arabia, she did not have to pay any debts, as Russia did when paying for all the Union republics, inherited from the USSR for foreign debt. The rest of the debt was repaid only last year in the amount of 121 million dollars. S. Arabia, unlike Russia, did not encounter such a problem as state bankruptcy and default, as happened with Russia in 1998, after which it was necessary to form gold reserves and pay off IMF debts collected by Yeltsin and his clique from almost zero. So your comparison is insignificant, based on the economic conditions of the existence of these two states, at least for the period since 1991. to 2018.
              Quote: Traveler
              set your protectorate over the breakaways
              Look at the 90s, everything has long been established. Have you slept all this time?
              Do you catch the difference between the former Soviet republics of the USSR and the national republics of Russia? No! So this is your problem.
              Quote: Traveler
              The West really lit up the prospect of losing global dominance in general
              Only Russia, what side here? All claims to China.
              China is an economic threat to the United States, and Russia is a military threat. If China and Russia combine their potentials, the United States will very soon lose its position in the world. Now in the United States, only the most worn-out homeless person does not say that China and Russia are the main threat to the United States, putting Russia in first place in terms of danger. Did not hear?
              1. flicker
                flicker 21 January 2018 23: 25
                +4
                China and Russia are the main threat to the United States, putting Russia in the first place in terms of danger.

                That is why they are drowning for the American state farmer smile Lech was removed, he was hastily replaced by Pavlik, now they are inflating the bubble - although everyone understands that he will not become any president - the question is: why then inflate the rating? .... in order to make him a sacred sacrifice and declare the election not legitimate.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 21 January 2018 23: 30
                  +5
                  Quote: flicker
                  to make him a sacred sacrifice and declare the election not legitimate

                  Do not pull the owl? Right? wink
                  As for the "legitimate" - for-dol-bali already this term, to the place and out of place ...
                  How can this general direct election be ... illegitimate ???
                  Uzboslin belay
                  1. flicker
                    flicker 22 January 2018 09: 11
                    +3
                    How can this general direct election be ... illegitimate ???

                    They inflate (the real will be 0.0) the rating for strawberries and bang before the election. In fact, the rating is being inflated to him - this is more than about h e in and d about . Question: for what?
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 22 January 2018 09: 57
                      +4
                      Quote: flicker
                      In fact, they’re cheating on him ...

                      There is such a letter in the word ...
                      Quote: flicker
                      Question: for what?

                      What for? Why, who ...
                      On the website president-rf.ru two owners chop loot, for example.
                      Just now there was another website advertised, but it was too late, too lazy to dig.
                      For some, this is #business. For some, it’s the “light in the window” (it’s not your turn to be a wedge, og). In general - to each creature ... according to the hara laughing
                      Quote: flicker
                      and bang before the election

                      And here, IMHO, an obvious "owl" ...
            3. saigon
              saigon 21 January 2018 09: 07
              +3
              Mr. agitator for Mr. Grudin, a patriot, what did you agree upon before the partition of the country? The devil, he must remember the little things, Mr. agitator, you are our patriot, do you speak for the collapse of the country? So who is the fifth column? Not you ? Aren't you if the collapse of the country does not scare you or the collapse of the country is your goal?
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 20 January 2018 14: 12
        +7
        But are we now “prospering” or is “natural selection” of those who have enough money to raise, cure, educate (normal - paid) children and those who are “an extra person 15 million”, “need to reduce xx million pensioners”?
        there is a very simple option - revolution - the ultimatum of the USA "return ALL that was stolen from us and with the processes otherwise we will strike at you ALL that we have. Yes, you will answer us, but to us from the stolen and so on - so you scum grab " good
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 20 January 2018 16: 31
        +6
        hooks jumped off
        and whether they jumped off. if dollars to America are billions?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 20 January 2018 22: 22
          +6
          Quote: Gardamir
          hooks jumped off
          and whether they jumped off. if dollars to America are billions?
          Yeah. The wrong word came off. Those billions of them that are contained in their securities in the amount of 108 billion American rubles are not such a disastrous amount for Russia, for the preservation of which we would be ready to give up our sovereign right to decide how we should live and with whom to be friends. Our "Hercules merchants" have an external debt higher than the state. The alignment of the ratio is something in the region of 35 state / 250 comm, but nevertheless, their (western) creditors are waiting for the repayment of these debts in time and with interest, but are not at all ready for their loss. So, if you suddenly play against Russia in terms of freezing assets, then we stupidly stop all payments on external debts. Do you feel the difference between 108 and 35/250 (285)? Do they need it? There, damn even Trump, even Clinton (shu) will be torn for lost profits.
          1. Cossack 471
            Cossack 471 20 January 2018 23: 13
            +1
            NYROBSKY If you know everything. so make it clear who imposed such a debt on the country. what did such a huge amount of money go where built? Something else tells. what a list of banks. which were given state support twice and the list of banks that have lost capital coincides strongly.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 21 January 2018 00: 44
              +6
              Quote: Cossack 471
              NYROBSKY If you know everything. so make it clear who imposed such a debt on the country. what did such a huge amount of money go where built? Something else tells. what a list of banks. which were given state support twice and the list of banks that have lost capital coincides strongly.
              But what can I think, mostly babos and took on fin.speculations. Relatively speaking, they take it at 2%, they lend it at 22%, they returned the debt, put the margin in your pocket. A tax of 13% of the total amount was paid and everything is nishtyak. Bank investment in the industrial sector of Russia is almost zero, and debt is growing. "Someone" this "work" seems to have lifted to the edge, because the style of "work" of some bankers does not change regardless of the difficulties that the government faced in view of economic sanctions, so the state guillotine swept over the financial sector in order to moderate appetites are not the measure of "voracious" bankers, in view of the loss of the instinct of self-preservation. As I understand it. Maybe I'm wrong.
    4. Victor N
      Victor N 21 January 2018 14: 04
      +3
      In this article, as in most others, there is a statement of negative and denial (silence) of any positive. And calls to do something, but very, very vague, even lazy. The sentences are primitive, otherwise harmful. Like, I blurted out, and you itch. This is all extremely tired.
      Meanwhile, each of us is not only an observer, but also an actor - a guilty person in this situation. Here you have to determine your role in this.
    5. woron333444
      woron333444 24 January 2018 11: 54
      0
      Grandfather January 20, 2018 10:03
      so everyone thinks ... one how to stay at the feeding trough,
      And others how to break through to the manger. Ukraine lived in poverty, and now in chocolate, and you want Russia to be in strawberries.
  2. siberalt
    siberalt 20 January 2018 06: 07
    11
    We will live until May. We read new May decrees. lol It’s already good that they did not introduce prohibition.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 20 January 2018 06: 40
      23
      will not introduce ... almost all the alcohol under the rotenbergs ...
    2. Victor N
      Victor N 21 January 2018 14: 06
      +1
      What other decrees do you miss? No, just interesting.
  3. Moore
    Moore 20 January 2018 06: 22
    20
    I agree with almost everything, with the exception of:
    I see that we have one good friend (but not a friend) - this is Belarus.

    Not a comrade, but a friend - this is the Belarusian people. But Father But does not pull on a comrade - just a parasite on Russian problems.
    Cultural figures at a meeting in the Central Committee of the CPSU: “Yes, we haven’t done everything yet for our people, for our audience, for our culture”

    In the late USSR, these figures very sensitively grasped the tendencies and went out in confession to admit their deep anti-Sovietism. Because you want to not just eat, but eat deliciously.
    1. Wayfarer
      Wayfarer 20 January 2018 10: 10
      13
      Quote: Moore
      But But father does not pull on a comrade
      And who do you think he is? Belarus is the only ally of Russia with which there is an agreement on mutual assistance in the event of external aggression. And this is thanks to Lukashenko. So don’t blah blah.
      Quote: Moore
      just parasitic on
      If you are not satisfied with the form of cooperation between Russia and Belarus - all claims to the government of the Russian Federation.
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 21 January 2018 14: 11
        +2
        This is why: all claims ONLY against the government of the Russian Federation? Do you want to notice the dependent position of the Belarusian authorities? So we tell you.
  4. SPACE
    SPACE 20 January 2018 06: 32
    11
    . The author’s answer: “But nothing!” This is only information for consideration.

    Article from the series: View of the flies on the world, the meeting of insects is considered open ... Reflect ...
    Z.Y. Someone still can’t eat the last horseradish with salt.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 20 January 2018 06: 41
      29
      Quote: SPACE
      Z.Y. Someone still can’t eat the last horseradish with salt.

      this is how people should be hated to write like that? overeaten black caviar?
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 20 January 2018 06: 49
        32
        "Cosmos" -A glance of a fly on the world, a meeting of insects is considered open ... Reflect ...
        are Russians insects? Who are you? "space"? Who do you work for the troll for?
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 20 January 2018 06: 58
          24
          Who? who? ... a mossy traveler ...
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 20 January 2018 08: 34
            +5
            Quote: Dead Day
            this is how people should be hated to write like that? overeaten black caviar?

            I hate to say it out loud, just too many fools got divorced.
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            are Russians insects? Who are you? "space"? Who do you work for the troll for?

            By itself, but like you with the silk-driver, I also have my own opinion, different from you, not like it, well, these are your problems, bear with me.
            Quote: kepmor
            Who? who? ... a mossy traveler ...

            Rather, a nurse, although do not care anyone you call, I will remain with my opinion, wait and see who is right, but you continue to continue to engage in masochism.
            1. kepmor
              kepmor 20 January 2018 08: 59
              18
              you don’t pull on the orderly .... scavenger is more suitable for you ...
              1. SPACE
                SPACE 20 January 2018 09: 34
                +7
                Quote: kepmor
                you don’t pull on the orderly .... scavenger is more suitable for you ...

                Keep decaying further ...
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 20 January 2018 13: 06
        +8
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: SPACE
        Z.Y. Someone still can’t eat the last horseradish with salt.

        this is how people should be hated to write like that? overeaten black caviar?

        Billionaire Grudinin tells everyone how power is not fair in our country !! I look, they all know how to divide. The Communists became prostitutes, brought the owner to the Communist Party?
    2. Stas
      Stas 20 January 2018 15: 44
      +5
      Quote: SPACE
      Article from the series: View of the flies on the world, the meeting of insects is considered open ... Reflect ..

      My dear, do you have a brain or is an iPhone thinking for you? Be careful when cornering, do not insult people like that. Everyone has the right to express their point of view.
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 21 January 2018 14: 18
        +1
        It’s about the fact that some of the “points of view” are so immature that they got a lot. So take this with patience.
  5. vlad007
    vlad007 20 January 2018 06: 39
    +9
    And what do you suggest, dear author of the article?
    1. already a Muscovite
      already a Muscovite 20 January 2018 06: 50
      0
      Here it is ... Who do we choose then?
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 20 January 2018 07: 00
        22
        do not strain your brains ... Putin has long since solved this very problem for you ...
    2. My address
      20 January 2018 07: 18
      17
      Vlad007, Vladimir!
      I did not begin to write a sentence, moreover, based on my experience and on the requirements of the foundations of management. The long note will turn out, and the long not all read. And wait for the approval of all candidates.
      Anecdote in the topic:
      Grandmothers at the entrance opened the official website: "STALIN'S NOT ON THEM",
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 20 January 2018 12: 45
        +5
        Quote: My address
        My address

        You wrote everything correctly, vitally. good
        It is obvious that the television picture has nothing to do with real life.
        In the beginning of the 90s there was a strange film, but an excerpt about zombies
    3. captain
      captain 20 January 2018 09: 52
      15
      Quote: vlad007
      And what do you suggest, dear author of the article?

      He suggests not voting for Putin. He wants everything to be democratic, as it was under Yeltsin. Or under Gorbachev.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 20 January 2018 11: 51
        14
        Quote: captain
        He suggests not voting for Putin.

        What do you really need? belay
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 20 January 2018 13: 12
      11
      Quote: vlad007
      And what do you suggest, dear author of the article?
      He doesn’t offer anything. So, he raises dirty stinky linen and at the same time intentionally overlooks the root cause, which led to those "achievements" about which he broadcasts. And the root cause lies in the fact that those involved in the “achievements” while in power from 1991 to 2000, under the guidance of American advisers, created the prerequisites and ruined industry, agriculture, medicine and education, and being torn away from the feeder, they want to return to the slogans “Give new power "!, obviously seeing its return to the financial trough. Especially when since 2000 some money and a piece of gold have started up in this trough.
      Why does this author of the "radish" not give a breakdown on the economic condition of the Russian Federation before 2000 and as of 2018? Because he knows that the alignment will obviously not be in favor of the "dung" that he sprinkled in his article.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 20 January 2018 14: 37
        19
        Have you heard about the "fat boar"? The brothers had such a funky "method" in their 90s - they "took" the co-operatives or another "businessman" and helped him "unwind" with "fat to grow." And as in a couple of years (or earlier) he "entered the body" so he was "cut" - it is far from always literally, but his whole business or what profitable business was "prepared". And what about the "wild boar" - and the "wild boar" should have been glad if he was alive and whole.
        So it is with Russia - she "fed up", there Nabibulina and K. are already "cutting her", layer after layer of "fat" is removed and sent to the cordon. am
        They brought the country up to that - quite decent people in the markets "branded food" (the one that even the souks do not eat) start to buy am As Grudinin said above - do not buy more milk "milk product". am Maybe I’m ignorant or "dumb", but in my "dumb" understanding, Milk cannot have an expiration date of HALF A YEAR and lie quietly on pallets in the middle of the hall, and not in refrigerators. Maybe about the "milk palm" remember? And then about the "golden parachutes" and the "poor" ministers and deputies?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 20 January 2018 14: 46
          12
          Quote: Mih1974
          Have you heard about the "fat boar"? Such a cheerful "method" was with the brothers in 90
          Well, in our case, the “wild boar” is very fighting and has the ability to protect itself without relying on someone’s roof. And yet, yes, the 90s have passed for Russia, and the United States has missed this moment, but they are trying to resolve issues as in the 90s.
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 20 January 2018 14: 49
            15
            Those "wild boars" also thought that it was OK, until they stuck them in the side with a feather. I already wrote to you, while some veins are tearing something real to be done - Nabibulinka with Sulivanov all loots from Russia to the USA negative Banks close and destroy. And tomorrow, anyone - put up for loot, close the bank in which there was money from the company in which you work, the company goes bankrupt - and go "around the world."
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 20 January 2018 15: 36
            10
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            in our case, the “wild boar” is very fighting and has the ability to defend itself without relying on someone’s roof.

            If you mean the Russian Federation, then it is very doubtful. Tribute is paid regularly and without delays. You probably know the structure of the organized crime group, and if we assume that the organized crime group has captured the whole country, and the other organized crime group is the world (et. I fantasize wassat ), in this case, everything grows together. Some milk their "cow", while others take interest from "milking" and all with their own. When a government official of the highest rank by the name of Ivanov, calls billions of lards for the Fed. channel, associations arise instantly.
            And now the most important and global thing, who can explain on the fingers what all the same needs from the Russian Federation, in other words, to the bourgeois from the bourgeois?
            Bosom? download! Finance? give away! Market? here!
            Territory? so why ?, we dig it out with our own hands, cut it down, even process it from raw into a semi-finished product and we pollute our own environment, and cut down the taiga. And who needs a piece of permafrost, unsuitable for life? I agree, with small oases.
            Under the main condition that there are no contradictions, such as socialism-capitalism. Question.....
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 15: 44
              10
              Well, who was looking for trolls here? Here is a classic example: Sling cutter (TM)
              Nowhere to put stigmas request
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 20 January 2018 19: 43
              +5
              Quote: Stroporez
              You probably know the structure of the organized crime group, and if you assume that the organized crime group has taken over the whole country, and the other organized crime group world (this is what I fantasize), in this case everything grows together. Some milk their "cow", while others take interest from "milk yield" and that's it with their own.
              In principle, the structure of the political balance of forces and the relationship of these forces to internal and external influence is indicated by you correctly. Any state has power, which relies on the army and the courts. The first value is taken from the people, and the second is created in order to keep the people within the framework established by the authorities. In history, there was one state where power belonged to the people, and then for a short time it was the USSR.
              Quote: Stroporez
              And now the most important thing and global, who can explain on the fingers, what all the same is needed from the Russian Federation, in other words, to the bourgeois from the bourgeois? Bosom? download! Finance? give away! Market? here! Territory? so why ?, we dig it out with our own hands, cut it down, even process it from raw into a semi-finished product and we pollute our own environment, and cut down the taiga. And who needs a piece of permafrost, unsuitable for life? I agree, with small oases. Under the main condition that there are no contradictions, such as socialism-capitalism. Question.....
              Well, you yourself wrote "organized crime groups", there is no ideology. Small organized crime groups take stalls in the markets, and when they are not enough, they periodically arrange skirmishes in order to divide the spheres of influence. Here, transfer this script to the world showdown and get the answer to your question. Only the scale is different, they are not sharing a market with kiosks, but a planet.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 20 January 2018 22: 54
                +5
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                In history, there was one state where power belonged to the people, and then for a short time it was the USSR.

                Yes sir! soldier
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Only the scale is different, they are not sharing a market with kiosks, but a planet.

                To my mind and, apparently, to our regret, they share US, that is, those who can still resist ....
                1. Victor N
                  Victor N 21 January 2018 14: 52
                  +2
                  Where is the people to whom power belonged in the USSR? Where did it go - after all, it was time for him to answer for the collapse of the country!
                  Really: the power was separate, the people separately. And the power hid in the "people", but continues to nostalgic about previous preferences, shifting responsibility from myself ....
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 21 January 2018 15: 14
                    +3
                    Quote: Victor N
                    Where is the people to whom power belonged in the USSR? Where did it go - after all, it was time for him to answer for the collapse of the country!

                    The people are in place, not everything is true ... You have a serious semantic load in the text. If I answer, as I think .....
                    Quote: Victor N
                    And the power hid in the "people", but continues to nostalgic about previous preferences, shifting responsibility from myself ....

                    Rather, she fenced off from the people.
      2. Stin 55
        Stin 55 20 January 2018 16: 39
        17
        A good poster ... Only US - what is it from that? "Power of Siberia" - Russia is not yet gasified. "... NPPs - 225 billion rubles ..." - and tariffs rise every six months. 20 million BEGGARS ... The spaceport - 300 billion - was cut in half, so much was stolen. Remember Serdyukov. And the fact that 50% of the national product goes offshore. Industry? damn - where? We buy sewing needles and pencils in China (!). Eat what? Starch and palm oil.
        Look, Russia has already forgotten how to produce bicycles.
        Enumerate ... erase the keys on the "board"! And if in a printed format - "War and Peace" by Tolstov - he is resting.
        Take a look around! Russia will not survive another Putin term!
        The West has no time left. The bridgehead is prepared. Should a war happen, and They surrounded us in a tight - BANKS WILL NOT SERVE OUR "DEFENSE". They are now refusing the military-industrial complex.
        Think! Mother is OUR ...
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 20 January 2018 19: 33
          +8
          Quote: Stin 55
          Take a look around! Russia will not survive another Putin term!

          100% will not survive!
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 20 January 2018 22: 45
            +6
            100% of loafers and drunks will not survive, and those who work will survive and continue to live on.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 20 January 2018 23: 06
              +6
              I can testify, homeless people have become less. In the same time
              in 2010 city able-bodied population of the Russian Federation (men 16–59 and women 16–54 years old) amounted to 63% of the total population. With 2009 began a sharp decline working-age population on average per 1 million people annually, and further this decrease will occur at a rate of 0,8–1,1 million people per year.
              As a result to 2020 g. working age population will fall by 10 million, and its share will decrease to 55%.
              It should be borne in mind that this situation is long-term.
              We will lose half of these 10 million working-age citizens due to the ultra-high mortality of working-age men. In recent years, about 630 thousand people of working age die in the Russian Federation annually, of which about 500 thousand are men.
              Rosstat.
              so not everyone will live until dawn
            2. Giants
              Giants 20 January 2018 23: 34
              +5
              Pensioners and invalids are also loafers ?!
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 21 January 2018 11: 43
                +1
                Moreover, here are pensioners and people with disabilities - I'm talking about drunks and loafers.
            3. populist
              populist 21 January 2018 13: 12
              +1
              Vadim237
              and those who work will survive and continue to live on.

              In the late 80s, they thought so. And then there was the Russian cross, when mortality went up sharply with a sharp decline in the birth rate.
              They can put in conditions when there will be no place to work, etc. What happened in the 90s. am
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 21 January 2018 15: 33
                +1
                In the 90s, this happened due to the fact that the entire defense order flew off and with it the rest of the planned economy disappeared - a market appeared - profitability, demand - supply, competitiveness, all those enterprises that did not meet these criteria disappeared.
                1. populist
                  populist 21 January 2018 15: 56
                  +1
                  Vadim237
                  In the 90s, this happened due to the fact that the entire defense order flew off and with it the rest of the planned economy disappeared.

                  You completely misrepresent the events of the 90s. Not only the defense industry flew off. (But is it not needed?) The entire economy of the country has undergone deliberate destruction. Destroyed agriculture, light, food industry, etc.
                  And there is no free market anywhere. Now is not the 19th century.
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 21 January 2018 16: 38
                    0
                    We are already 28 years in this market.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 20 January 2018 22: 02
          +8
          Quote: Stin 55
          A good poster ... Only US - what is it from that? (according to the text). 20 million beggars ...
          In the 90s there were 80% of the poor. Progress on the face.
          Quote: Stin 55
          The spaceport - 300 billion - was cut in half, so much was stolen.
          Starts have already been made, which means the spaceport is working. Those who stole something with enviable constancy replenish the criminal chronicle and are arrested, i.e. the funds withdrawn are returned.
          Quote: Stin 55
          Remember Serdyukov.
          Remember. Only somehow suddenly after Serdyukov the army became more effective. I don’t understand why, but there is a fact of reform in terms of eliminating unnecessary control and coordination units, which led to the acceleration of the introduction of new weapons and the optimization of command and control.
          Quote: Stin 55
          And the fact that 50% of the national product goes offshore. Industry? damn - where? We buy sewing needles and pencils in China (!)
          Well, there is so far dependence on an import supplier, so we have never been 100% self-sufficient. There are mattresses without our nickel and rocket engines, also in the corral will be, despite the fact that you idolize them and consider the navel of prosperity.
          Quote: Stin 55
          Look, Russia has already forgotten how to produce bicycles.
          But we produce Armata and having no analogues S-400. Who will surprise with a bicycle now?)))
          Quote: Stin 55
          Enumerate ... erase the keys on the "board"! And if in print format - "War and Peace" Tolstova - resting.
          Yeah. Especially if you know the rules of the Russian language.
          Tolstoy my friend, LION TOLSTO. You can re-read "War and Peace" 100 times, but if you cannot correctly reproduce (decline) the name of the author, then you are definitely not Russian.
          Quote: Stin 55
          The West has no time left. The bridgehead is prepared. Should a war happen, and They surrounded us in a tight - BANKS WILL NOT SERVE OUR "DEFENSE". They are now refusing the military-industrial complex.
          Yes, the West has little time left, I agree. That surrounded, only adds optimism. Now we do not care which way to break through. But what have banks to do with it? You are gracious, being tightly disfigured by the perception of a pro-Western world order, how awkwardly you transfer the model of relations between the state and the financial structures of the West to the Russian field. We have no problems with banks. If tomorrow is war, then everything, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, will work for the good of Russia, or bank bosses will cut down the forest in the Komi Republic to set up dugouts in three steps. About 10 years ago, the system was built so that for the transfer of troops, it would be necessary to conclude agreements with Russian Railways on the provision of platforms for the Russian Ministry of Defense, but more recently, the Russian Ministry of Defense is the owner of so many platforms that, if built in one echelon, will take more than 600 km of roadway.
          Quote: Stin 55
          Think! Mother is OUR ...

          To know still where YOUR MOTHER lives.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 21 January 2018 01: 54
            +4
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Yes, the West has little time left, I agree. That surrounded, only adds optimism. N

            How do you imagine this?
            Well I asked a question, you do not confuse anything?
            And what date does the Mausoleum pass in defense of the Frontiers?
            Interestingly
          2. BecmepH
            BecmepH 22 January 2018 09: 04
            +2
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Remember. Only somehow suddenly after Serdyukov the army became more effective.

            So they themselves wrote
            after Serdyukov
            For example, he eliminated the divisions that are now being restored. It is effective in your opinion.
            I don’t understand why some people connect Serdyukov and the restoration of the army ?. He had no relation to the army before.
            For example, if Schumacher is put on a yacht, will he also overtake everyone?
        3. Train
          Train 21 January 2018 12: 51
          0
          I said something like three years ago that the end is coming soon, the west has no time, they have to go to the finish line and finish what they started in '45, everyone laughed at me, pushed me in, see what happens, and then the war in Ukraine started. Then I realized that everything had begun ...
        4. Victor N
          Victor N 21 January 2018 15: 00
          +1
          Yes, Russia has not forgotten how to produce bicycles, specific plants, specific teams. And each employee is to blame for this - let him seek his share of guilt. It was not Medvedev that brought the plant to bankruptcy, but a concrete collector!
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 20 January 2018 07: 12
    32
    A sad but honest article in which Alexander did not bother to honestly write the name of the person whom he would really see at least as a presidential candidate! crying Otherwise, everything is written correctly! My you Alexander ++++++++ megaplusche! !! good hi
    1. AUL
      AUL 20 January 2018 12: 51
      16
      The author is a huge plus! Despite the fact that he did not touch upon many problems in his post. This terrible corruption of power, bureaucratic lawlessness, the complete neglect of the laws of the poor, and much more.
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 21 January 2018 15: 04
        +4
        What did the author suggest?
        NOTHING!
        Plus for nothing!
        Here, with such experts, Russia will surely disappear!
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 21 January 2018 19: 43
          +1
          Quote: Victor N
          Plus for nothing!

          By the way, here in some topics affecting the Second World War, the authors carry nonsense on some fundamental military issues, but the public generously presents them with “+”, which indicates the level of historical and military knowledge of the pluses. But this is not even the point, but the fact that a principled discussion does not work out - the topics quickly go out, and then the authors' fantasies begin to surf the Internet with a link to VO.
  7. zyzx
    zyzx 20 January 2018 07: 16
    30
    An excellent article, it’s just that you didn’t touch the GDP in vain, so much brown substance will be poured on you now. And of course, a killer argument will sound if she is WHO.
    1. esaul
      esaul 20 January 2018 14: 31
      +7
      Quote: zyzx
      An excellent article, it’s just that you didn’t touch the GDP in vain, so much brown substance will be poured on you now. And of course, a killer argument will sound if she is WHO.

      So the substance is poured by your like-minded people, because otherwise they don’t know how.
      1. zyzx
        zyzx 20 January 2018 14: 55
        +9
        What are my like-minded people, those who do not consider him God? Or do not pronounce a mantra if not He then who?
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 20 January 2018 07: 23
    21
    And why do we live "better" now than in the 90s? Yes, because out of a hundred enterprises, one remains. There are no unemployed now, because after the closure of enterprises, everyone rushed to look for ways to survive.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 07: 52
      14
      Quote: Gardamir
      And why do we live "better" now than in the 90s? Yes, because out of a hundred enterprises, one remains

      Excuse me, cheating?
      In the 90s, the company I worked for (and another 6000+ people) It was. Just didn't work, and the salary did not pay for three months. And the record was six months without a salary.
      And now it works. Only from 6000+ there are 1000+ people left. But the enterprise works and produces ... well, it doesn’t matter to you that it was "numbered".
      So when is it better - now, or in the 90s?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 20 January 2018 07: 57
        22
        please?
        Well, for the hollow on my head!
        Here is my city in the USSR

        but the last enterprise is being closed
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 08: 03
          15
          So what?
          I gave a concrete example, to name the enterprises that were bent in the 90s, but have now come to life?
          I'm not hard wink
          And you draw some pictures here request
          You yourself are the word ...
          Quote: Gardamir
          barbarian

          Exactly yes
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 20 January 2018 08: 07
            20
            So what?
            And nothing, judging by everything, even the video didn’t let your idle talk look. You have the trolls because how, you say, deep truths, we owe you some evidence.
            And you draw some pictures here
            But this is an insult! This is my homeland!
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 08: 11
              15
              Quote: Gardamir
              And nothing, apparently, even the video didn’t deign to watch your slander

              And why should I look at the pictures that you post here and the likes of you ...
              These are not your thoughts, these are propaganda. I simply do not have time to watch all this nonsense. Only two days off, and de euel belay
              Quote: Gardamir
              But this is an insult

              Well, file a complaint ... you don't get used to camping laughing
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 20 January 2018 08: 13
                21
                Only two days off, and de euel
                well duck why are you a troll hanging around here?
                you really don’t need it, but at such a pace for the ranks, maybe you’ll go to the main moderators or move the admin.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 08: 17
                  14
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  why are you ... are you ...

                  This ... more careful ... I didn’t lap with you from the same bowl, and I’m not even going to wink
                  And generally speaking, Gardamir... take care of your nerves, and you don’t have to hell with it ... otherwise it will happen to you, fate forbid, I will be bored without you ...
                  I love a fresh troll for breakfast, you know good
                2. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 20 January 2018 09: 11
                  27
                  Gardamir, why are you even contacting Golovan ?! He’s really a troll. Not a single clever thought, not a single argument, all jokes and stupid excuses. To ignore him.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 09: 41
                    13
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    Not a single clever thought, not a single argument

                    I don’t know what thoughts you and others like you think are “smart” ... but, I note, not everyone here thinks the way you Gardamirth
                    There are enough arguments from me ... moreover, I note, with links to sources (than you and your kind, as a rule ... don’t bother).
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    completely jokes and stupid excuses

                    But this is just for you with Gardamirth yes
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    really troll

                    Again - to you with Gardamirth yes
                    And anyway, what did you fit in? You also think that in the 90s everything was good, but now everything is bad? fool
                    1. andrej-shironov
                      andrej-shironov 20 January 2018 10: 04
                      22
                      What are some sources? Do not make funny laughing You didn’t even bother to name the company. Everything is so sideways, around and around so that they don’t grab hold of the tongue, because everything is probably not the way you write.
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 14: 32
                        +8
                        Quote: andrej-shironov
                        You didn’t even bother to name the company

                        Easy. TSNIIMV Minobemash, Kaliningrad, which is near Moscow. Nowadays Composite NGO, Korolev. Are you satisfied?

                        Quote: andrej-shironov
                        Everything is so sideways side by side, so that they don’t grab hold of the tongue

                        Today is Troll Day.
                        You remarkably characterized exactly your manner of speaking, Sharikov.

                        Quote: andrej-shironov
                        for sure everything is not the way you write

                        Do not write, but write ... letters.
                        So, so ... I worked there for 10 years, and fellow students still work there.
                        So - by ... however, I am not surprised ... Sharikov.
                  2. Gardamir
                    Gardamir 20 January 2018 16: 03
                    +4
                    He’s really a troll
                    I agree, but walked around me for three days, I thought I became a man.
                3. Victor N
                  Victor N 21 January 2018 15: 18
                  +2
                  To deny the opinion of opponents is not good! Calm down, Gardamir!
          2. GradusHuK
            GradusHuK 20 January 2018 13: 27
            15
            Golovan Jack Today, 08:03 Remember Russian and be proud: Since 2005, Putin has closed more than 35 plants in Russia.
            Effective Putinism Management - More than 35 closed factories since 000. Z2005 thousand is not counting small factories and enterprises. Think about this figure, which indicates that the country has lost 5 plants every day since 9,6. Yes, no Hitler could destroy our industry with such intensity as Putin could do over the past 2005 years ...
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 20 January 2018 18: 55
              +5
              And since 2000, to the present time - several tens of thousands of enterprises have opened, including mine. Now in Russia there are more than 500000 different industries - from small to large.
              1. Train
                Train 21 January 2018 13: 01
                +1
                and these enterprises go in a double garage are placed? -One factory has opened in Karelia for us -Makes cardboard plates-myself !!! He came to the opening, screaming, nothing happened, the acre of the shipyard ... the old one, and just there, I started to do something again,
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 21 January 2018 16: 40
                  0
                  They are all scattered across 17 million square kilometers.
            2. Victor N
              Victor N 21 January 2018 15: 16
              +7
              Your admiration for GREAT and Terrible Putin, who personally closed 35000 factories, contrary to the will of millions of employees, is amazing! To give birth to such a story in a healthy mind is IMPOSSIBLE!
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 21 January 2018 20: 04
                0
                35000 closed factories are from Communist Party papers that they took from the ceiling like everything else.
        2. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 20 January 2018 10: 02
          16
          This is not just a hollow-necked troll. Do not feed. smile
        3. Sansculotte
          Sansculotte 20 January 2018 12: 10
          11
          What’s in their head, Putin has been in power for 18 years, their position is a consequence of all these 18 years
          Reminds a German grandmother who learned about the concentration camps and decided what is needed for this disgrace
          Well, slaves, finished slaves, but everything is right, the authorities do what they wipe their feet
      2. Alf
        Alf 20 January 2018 08: 51
        12
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        So when is it better - now, or in the 90s?

        In the 70-80s.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 09: 37
          +9
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          So when is it better - now, or in the 90s?

          In the 70-80s.

          It is impossible to argue with this. But it was about
          Quote: Gardamir
          And why do we live "better" now than in the 90s?

          But this is a direct lie, IMHO. What I pointed out request
        2. a housewife
          a housewife 20 January 2018 10: 03
          +3
          and even better - in the 60s?
          1. Victor N
            Victor N 21 January 2018 15: 24
            0
            Of course, he was then chairman of the trade union committee, and then secretary of the district committee. Worked, of course, but you had everything!
      3. MrK
        MrK 20 January 2018 10: 56
        12
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        And now it works. Only 6000 + left 1000 + people.

        And the rest 5 000 what they eat. Or suck ...
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 14: 40
          +6
          Quote: mrark
          And the remaining 5 what they eat

          For 5000 I will not answer, but for myself - I can. Since 1996, he has changed several jobs, ranging from a foreign company - a software developer to the current one - a leading manufacturer of equipment, clothing and other shnyaga for extreme sports belay
          It’s completely "fit into the market", which I wish for everyone.
          1. Stas
            Stas 20 January 2018 16: 06
            20
            Golovan, I read you periodically and noticed such a pattern. I have everything hurt, I fit into the market, I have everything hurt, etc. Very happy for you !!! But you are selfish !!! You do not care deeply about everyone else, and unfortunately there are enough of them.
            Everything is fine with me too, and maybe much better than yours. But I want my neighbors to get decent pay too, and not miserable handouts and not look at me askance.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 20 January 2018 18: 59
              +2
              The rest have a head on their shoulders and hands from the right place - they themselves will figure it out.
              1. Stas
                Stas 20 January 2018 19: 46
                12
                Quote: Vadim237
                The rest have a head on their shoulders and hands from the right place - they themselves will figure it out.

                Vadim, my mother is retired - TR 9 with a penny, grandma has a little more pension. Both worked all their lives. Well, I can help them. And for those whom children cannot help, themselves in loans and debts? Who will help them? My opinion, the state represented by the government, should bear social responsibility to all citizens of our country, and not to the "elect". Otherwise, why is it needed? Collect taxes and fees?
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 20 January 2018 23: 00
                  +2
                  Well, I agree that a decent retirement pension in Russia should be 30000 rubles — but this is a problem, due to what and to whom - every year, save 14.5 trillion rubles for this? Do not forget that our country is huge - with a worn-out infrastructure and the longest communications in the world, social services, defense, education, science, engineering, astronautics, etc. and so on - all this requires a lot of money, we spend more than we earn and how not to twist, we need at least ten times more than there is now - this problem is not a single decade.
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 21 January 2018 00: 55
                    +4
                    They would just write that you do not care. Why so many unnecessary letters?
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 21 January 2018 11: 45
                      +2
                      So you could not write anything at all.
              2. Victor N
                Victor N 21 January 2018 15: 30
                +1
                Yes, everyone should understand for himself, and not wait, let alone demand assistance (handouts) from the outside. And do not bite the hand of the server, which is now in vogue (Maaalenko too much allowance ..).
          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir 20 January 2018 16: 06
            +2
            clothes
            literate ???
      4. esaul
        esaul 20 January 2018 12: 10
        13
        Greetings, Golovan! drinks I welcome your patience in the confrontation with the “opponents” (not the opponents, but the unbalanced talkers) and your extremely correct answers, despite the explicit provocation of the above “opponents”.
        The forum users who witnessed this confrontation, I ask you to note that the method of persecution by Putin’s fighters has not changed at all over the years, and obviously they haven’t increased their minds. The man (Golovan Jack) expressed his opinion and then there were nervous outbursts that immediately turned into insults (hollow-necked), and, for no reason, unfounded “arguments”, false slogans - “This is my country!” and about statements about the usual "opponents" types of activities like
        Quote: mrark
        sucked off ...

        They had been talking in the same spirit before, and over the years had not learned to see the obvious at all. Or do not want to. it’s convenient for them - you can crap at all without fear for the consequences.
        Another characteristic feature of such children is that they take to judge the times, which they don’t know about, and judge by their childhood memories of the sandbox.
        Good luck to you, Golovan!
        And the moderators would not be out of place to stop monologues with insults that give rise to a banal Internet srach.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 20 January 2018 16: 08
          +8
          To moderators
          if moderators could stop it. your mongrel would fly forward his own screech
          1. Victor N
            Victor N 21 January 2018 15: 34
            +1
            Behave decently! Decent people gathered here. It’s unpleasant, you know ....
      5. Mih1974
        Mih1974 20 January 2018 14: 41
        15
        And sorry 5000 "lichen" where did it go? "Optimized" in the grave? In 90, even barter allowed to feed more than 500 workers of the engineering plant (my parents) and now there is a car wash, warehouses, a slaughter desk (for staff) for the production of sponges (the workers really die), a glass firm (trinkets) and FSE !! even a hundred people will not be typed. negative
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 14: 52
          +6
          Quote: Mih1974
          And sorry 5000 "lichen" where did it go? "Optimized" in the grave?

          I won’t answer for all 5000 (because I’m not responsible), those who wanted survived, many still work.
          Quote: Mih1974
          In 90, even barter allowed to feed more than 500 workers of the engineering plant (my parents) and now there is a car wash, warehouses

          In the 90s, “my” office was frankly bent, the thief in the leadership eats up everything, it fell over to the employees ... little and with more time lag.
          Now it works, and the "profile" is saved.
          Quote: Mih1974
          slaughter (for staff) ... (workers really die)

          But thank you very much for that good laughing good
          Great and powerful is our Russian language ... therefore it is necessary to use it ... with caution wink
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 20 January 2018 22: 07
            +2
            I probably heard about the “prisoners in the uranium mines”, but here it’s easier and worse - I’m making sponges of any “tasteless” chemistry and, of course, “the owner takes care of the workers’s health” am negative , everything was strictly ruled - "do not like it - you can quit" am . No one has been working there for several years - either they themselves leave either with poisoning or in a morgue. I don’t know the reason why all kinds of supervisory authorities "do not see point blank" what is happening, but fact is a fact.
      6. BecmepH
        BecmepH 22 January 2018 09: 09
        +1
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        So when is it better - now, or in the 90s?

        Again, these 90s (((And why not compare with the 70s?
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 20 January 2018 13: 31
      11
      Quote: esaul
      The forum users who witnessed this confrontation, I ask you to note that the method of persecution by Putin’s fighters has not changed at all over the years and obviously they haven’t increased their minds. The man (Golovan Jack) expressed his opinion and then there were nervous outbursts that immediately turned into insults (hollow), and, for no reason, unfounded “arguments”, false slogans - “This is my country!”
      They had been talking in the same spirit before, and over the years had not learned to see the obvious at all. Or do not want to. it’s convenient for them - you can crap at all without fear for the consequences. Another characteristic feature of such children is that they take to judge the times that they don’t know about, and judge by their childhood memories of the sandbox.

      And what did you want dear? From the very beginning of the discussion thread, they (wrestlers with cutting) had a complete idyll. Squirted from an enema of "justice and justice" in all directions to my delight, and here ........ Jack Golovan, with his commentary broke their orderly line of thought and train of thought))) Now they are cast out on the topic of how to declare Golovan " heretic "because stupidly they have no counterarguments. I note that these "guys" are always active in topics aimed at a "fair" change in the Russian state system, in favor of the interests of our geopolitical opponents.
      1. esaul
        esaul 20 January 2018 14: 28
        +6
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Squirted from an enema of "justice and justice" in all directions to my joy, and then ........ Golovan Jack,

        drinks good
      2. MrK
        MrK 20 January 2018 15: 51
        16
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Golovan Jack, his comment broke their orderly line and train of thought


        This is not true. Amiable Golovan just spit on those 5000. The main thing is its ... warm. And further. How can I get a job for a man who is for 50. Chances are zero.
        And further. Academician Tatyana Zaslavskaya, a big proponent of reform who was part of the presidency of President Yeltsin at that time, admitted after a decade and a half that in just three years of shock therapy in Russia alone middle-aged men died 8 million, and just over the years of the reign of EBN and Putin left 12 million lives of middle-aged men (!!!). But not Golovan. Everything is fine with him. But the crisis in Russia did not end. And then it will be worse. As the Strugatsky wrote: Only those who sit quietly on the sidelines are the ones who cut the most.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 16: 22
          10
          Quote: mrark
          Amiable Golovan just spit on those 5000. The main thing is its own ... warm

          Not certainly in that way.
          I am responsible primarily for those who depend on me. Well, and for myself, naturally.
          Each of those 5000 is similar, in theory.
          To keep it warm, I, ahem, made some efforts. And still I continue to apply them, ahem.
          Do not drown - do not rush (s).
          Quote: mrark
          And further. How can I get a job for a man who is over 50. Chances are zero

          In two years, he changed three jobs. Last time - in April last year. Nothing, I'm working. The bosses are sane, the salary is white (verified. Taxes are paid regularly), riding relatively close (well, 3+ hours a day on the road is not 5+, after all),
          I am 56 without 2 weeks, if.
          I repeat: be a specialist and do not be very greedy for salary, and you will be rewarded.
          Quote: mrark
          ... but not Golovan. Everything is fine with him ...

          Yes, it is quite. I repeat, I am primarily responsible for myself. And I urge all others above all to this.
          If everyone will at least be responsible for himself, life will be much more beautiful. IMHO.
          Quote: mrark
          And then it will be worse

          It will not be worse than with EBN. Swam, we know yes
          PS: and "sit on the sidelines" just you and your kind. And loudly, um, yelling that they offended you.
          This ... is not my method, I always only hoped for myself. Works, verified.
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 22 January 2018 09: 15
            0
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            In two years, he changed three jobs.

            Did they get rid of you, or didn’t you fit into the team?
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 20 January 2018 19: 05
          +4
          . "And it will get worse." You will have it - but we don’t, because we create, manufacture and work.
        3. Victor N
          Victor N 21 January 2018 15: 53
          +3
          I have 49 years of experience, age - over 50, I work.
          Even in Soviet times, it was necessary to look for "shabashki", although they even punished for it. Companions for shabboks have always been difficult to recruit - because there, under the conditions, you need to work hard, not be listed. Now - too, although it would seem that a difficult life makes you strain.
          This is - relative to the other 5000 - and I have to spare them ?!
          Golovan Jack - my respect!
          Our Russia will definitely survive!
          Putin V.V. - success!
      3. Overlock
        Overlock 22 January 2018 11: 46
        +5
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        because stupidly they have no counterarguments.

        stupid things. You are my pervert! None of you stubborn answered a simple question: WHY, with a growing economy and well-being, do children collect money for treatment on TV? Why is the fight against corruption a threat to the state? Your chatter and lies about the opposite are simply tired of many.
        It’s just that you are satisfied with corruption, theft, impunity and irresponsibility of the authorities for various reasons.
        And if you are afraid of talking about it, then only because you understand that the state is built on theft, corruption, and it cannot live without it. So does Yarovaya, your idol
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 22 January 2018 20: 29
          0
          Yesterday they answered - look.
  9. Bastinda
    Bastinda 20 January 2018 07: 27
    47
    “Santa Claus comes to the CEC:
    - Hello, please register me as a presidential candidate.
    Pamfilova:
    “Are you out of your mind !?” But you live in some kind of your own world and have no idea how ordinary people live! When you arrive, everything is clean, full of food tables, all smartly decorated, and you think that everyone always lives like that! When you make gifts to people, you do it at their own expense, and there is so much pathos as if it were personally from you! At various shows, you don’t feel sorry for any folk money, they are ready to lower everything! And pensioners ... !? It seems that for you they do not exist! And in general, no one saw your presidential candidate program ... - suddenly falls silent, sad. - Damn, everything is converging, you have to register. ”
    1. fa2998
      fa2998 20 January 2018 08: 35
      15
      To the author of the article, and to the bravo comment! hi
    2. passing
      passing 20 January 2018 11: 28
      11
      Quote: Bastinda
      “Santa Claus comes to the CEC:
      - Hello, please register me as a presidential candidate.
      Pamfilova:
      “Are you out of your mind !?” But you live in some kind of your own world and have no idea how ordinary people live! When you arrive, everything is clean, full of food tables, all smartly decorated, and you think that everyone always lives like that! When you make gifts to people, you do it at their own expense, and there is so much pathos as if it were personally from you! At various shows, you don’t feel sorry for any folk money, they are ready to lower everything! And pensioners ... !? It seems that for you they do not exist! And in general, no one saw your presidential candidate program ... - suddenly falls silent, sad. - Damn, everything is converging, you have to register. ”

      Fine! 100500 pluses laughing
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 January 2018 07: 55
    24
    again a forum named after egor-dai-don
    It’s time for the president to frankly admit that the so-called The Gaidar Economic Forum is a gathering of direct enemies of Russia, which today live as well as they did in the 90s. A so-called representatives of the “liberal” public even openly threaten that if the government’s economic bloc and course are changed, the Russian economy will collapse overnight.
    1. vfqjh
      vfqjh 20 January 2018 08: 25
      11
      If you cover, then who will be in his team, who will support ??? Eh ... Rosseya !!!!!!
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 20 January 2018 08: 43
        16
        don’t worry ... suffered in the country more than enough ... only marshals with generals can regain a whole regiment only in the military ...
        1. Cat Marquis
          Cat Marquis 20 January 2018 10: 26
          14
          Not ... those that the "Marshals" and "Generals" are just not "patience", but those who managed to "get into the stream" and stay in it to this day, they are quite consciously defending their choice, "patience" it’s just that those who, at low and medium “ranks”, “vote with their hearts” guided by the utterances- “but in the 90s, it was worse,” and “there is no one else ...”
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 20 January 2018 13: 00
      12
      The GDP growth rate in China in 2017 was higher than projected by the authorities by a few percentage points.
      At the end of 2017, inflation in China amounted to 1,6%, being significantly lower than the official forecast of 3%, while the producer price index showed positive dynamics for the first time in five years and grew by 6,3% compared to last year, when the rate fell by 2,4%. According to the results of 2017, industrial production increased by 6,6% compared to 2016.

      Investments in fixed assets grew by 7,2% compared to 8,1% and amounted to 63,16 trillion yuan (about 9,8 trillion dollars). The share of investments of state-owned enterprises increased by 10,1%, and the private sector - by 6% compared to 2016. Retail sales rose 10,2% to 36,62 trillion yuan ($ 5,68 trillion), while online retail sales grew 32,2% to 7,17 trillion yuan (1,11 trillion dollars).
      This is SCALE !!!!
      This is SUCCESS!
      The current indicator also turned out to be better than expected by the IMF, which in October last year raised the forecast for the growth of the Chinese economy for 2017-2018 to 6,8% and 6,5%, respectively. In fact, China's annual GDP growth in the first quarter of 2017 amounted to 6,9%, in the second - 6,9%, in the third - 6,8%, in the fourth - 6,8%.
      And we are pouring from empty to empty. What did the GDP say? - "The course towards liberal reforms remains unchanged." Who has any doubts about the prospects?
    3. Victor N
      Victor N 21 January 2018 16: 00
      0
      And you argue with them! Suggest other solutions. Pluralism of opinions is necessary.
      To argue with me - will not decrease. And plugging, driving underground is counterproductive!
  11. planetauuu.com
    planetauuu.com 20 January 2018 08: 23
    24
    "... Just got out of the pit and in 2017 year reached 2% growth ... and in the world for a long time average growth of about 2,5% ..."

    Actually, in 2017, the growth of the Russian economy was 1.5%, the world was 3.6%, this year the world growth will be 3.7%. In other words, the separation of the world economy from the Russian economy is increasing and pretty soon the standard of living in Africa will reach and surpass the standard of living in Russia. So think about whether to vote for Putin and his team? In another six years of the same?
    1. captain
      captain 20 January 2018 09: 57
      +6
      Quote: planetauuu.com
      "... Just got out of the pit and in 2017 year reached 2% growth ... and in the world for a long time average growth of about 2,5% ..."

      Actually, in 2017, the growth of the Russian economy was 1.5%, the world was 3.6%, this year the world growth will be 3.7%. In other words, the separation of the world economy from the Russian economy is increasing and pretty soon the standard of living in Africa will reach and surpass the standard of living in Russia. So think about whether to vote for Putin and his team? In another six years of the same?

      Well, that's the point of the article you indicated. Do you propose for Navalny or the chairman of the collective farm? We must not be afraid to write, to name names. And so just a chatter.
      1. Sansculotte
        Sansculotte 20 January 2018 12: 21
        +6
        The choice is to make, or rather you have already made it most likely, well, get ready to fall into the next 6 years of hibernation.
        Clearly, you want to live a quiet life and die without unnecessary shocks,
    2. SPACE
      SPACE 20 January 2018 10: 12
      +3
      Quote: planetauuu.com
      In other words, the separation of the world economy from the Russian economy is increasing and pretty soon the standard of living in Africa will reach and surpass the standard of living in Russia

      laughing this is where in Africa? In the country of Limpopo? You urgently need to make an appointment with Aibolit before it's too late.
      1. korvin1976
        korvin1976 20 January 2018 12: 13
        +7
        Well, in what other country. Of course in Limpopo. Are you not aware of the existence of such a country? Here is Osh in the know, there is still the tyrant Aibolit. Did not hear? Why are you my friend. I've heard the same thing about the growth of the "world economy", but I haven’t seen it. Apparently something with vision.
        The comparison of the “world economy” and the economy of the country under sanctions is especially touching.
        It turns out that they don’t build anything or produce anything. I live in a city in which industry is developed, and is very developed. But what happens in the city next door, in fact in a satellite city, cities are within walking distance
    3. korvin1976
      korvin1976 20 January 2018 11: 52
      +5
      The so-called separation of the "world economy" and its direct growth is almost equal to the level of increase in public debt, the main economic "developed" states. That is, an increase in the economy (income) is growing, debt is increasing. How strange it turns out. Maybe here all the same nad just apply simple math + on - gives 0.
      Just if you look at the numbers (which are freely available), then the whole "ala world economy" especially the "ala developed" countries, this is nothing like an increase in external debt.
      The entire liberal "ala world economy" is essentially represented by the countries of the "Big Six and the Osh", so they have just "growth" going on, only in the reverse order.
      And if you compare the same BRICS countries, then their growth goes up.

      As there was an anecdote in the article in the topic:
      Comrade, what do you see in front of you?
      - Tree
      And yet?
      - Wood.
      Well, also?
      - Wood, wood. many trees
      What about the forest?
      - What a forest, there are only some trees !!!!!!
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 20 January 2018 13: 49
      +6
      Quote: planetauuu.com
      ... Just got out of the pit and in 2017 reached 2% growth ... and in the world for a long time an average growth of about 2,5% ... "

      Our joy, these figures of GDP growth were achieved taking into account what we managed to build precisely during the years in which GDP was in power. Before him, the production base in the real sector of the economy was only declining. Yeah.
      Quote: planetauuu.com
      In fact, in 2017, the growth of the Russian economy was 1.5%, the world was 3.6%, this year the world growth will be 3.7%.
      Actually, few people in the world economy give out rapid growth of GDP in the context of economic sanctions, and even being bound by unilateral obligations under the WTO agreement, where Dima Medvedev hastily shoved us before the end of his presidency with the help of his friend Obama, who, surprisingly, could "persuade" Georgia not to impede Russia's entry into this organization.
      Quote: planetauuu.com
      In other words, the separation of the world economy from the Russian economy is increasing and pretty soon the standard of living in Africa will reach and surpass the standard of living in Russia.
      So why are you still here? Travel to Africa!
      Quote: planetauuu.com
      So think about whether to vote for Putin and his team? In another six years of the same?
      Of course it’s worth .... Let him be responsible for what he has done! And then he will leave, but he will disentangle another. No, really. yes
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 22 January 2018 09: 28
        +2
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        knitted by unilateral obligations under the WTO agreement, where Dima Medvedev hurriedly stuffed us

        Oh how! So the person to blame for our troubles is determined. And why, then, the Great and Almighty and does not leave the WTO? And didn’t he (GDP) then lead the government?
    5. Victor N
      Victor N 21 January 2018 16: 11
      +1
      Ek, the digital is fascinating! In reality, not everything is as bad as it seems. There are some subtleties that are not noticeable to everyone. GDP structure, for example. And not only.
      It is important to BE, not TO SAY.
      So pay attention, think: why is military power growing at much lower defense costs?
      So the economic successes of the real economy are more significant than macroeconomic indicators. Be careful, meditate in silence and do not rush to shake the air.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 20 January 2018 08: 41
    12
    Like, how many new cars do people have
    ... Which led to an increase in morality in society, horse-stealing decreased at times ...
  13. samarin1969
    samarin1969 20 January 2018 09: 05
    20
    Our president de jure "defines the foundations of domestic and foreign policy", in fact - "representative power" and no more: flies, rolls, says, is baptized, bathes, jokes ... and no more ... The peoples of Russia What is needed is not just a president, but a frantic spiritual leader, a fighter, his own “rakhbar”. ... For the legion of "offshore celestials" all the facts indicated by the author are quite satisfied. They are here only "guest workers of world business": they came to "earn money". And GDP absolutely suits them.
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 20 January 2018 10: 05
      +5
      Quote: samarin1969
      Our president de jure - "defines the foundations of domestic and foreign policy", in fact - "representative power" and no more: flies, rolls, says, is baptized, bathes, jokes, ... and no more ..

      This is the main task of the authorities.
      Quote: samarin1969
      The peoples of Russia need not just a president, but a frantic spiritual leader, a fighter, their own "rakhbar".

      The leader, leader, supervisor, the one who will wake you with a whip and drive you to the next construction site, wipe the snot and decide everything for you. Slave ideology, and what are they capable of?
  14. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 20 January 2018 09: 55
    +5
    Need a PRESIDENT! And not the president who is now in power! Need an idea and a leader, but this is not at all. True, the desired figure is not visible on the horizon, alas.
    1. MrK
      MrK 20 January 2018 11: 09
      14
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      True, the desired figure is not visible on the horizon, alas


      I’m writing for the fifth time. Well, vote for Putin in March. Only then will you endure for another six years. And remember: the groin of the oligarchs did not strain the problems.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 20 January 2018 17: 09
        +1
        For the forty-eighth time I am writing for the "tankers" I and my relatives do not go to this election at all. Fershteyn?
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 20 January 2018 20: 31
          +4
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          For the forty-eighth time I am writing for the "tankers" I and my relatives do not go to this election at all. Fershteyn?

          So what do you want to prove to those who go to the polls, and it doesn’t matter who they go to vote for? Yes, with your non-arrival you just facilitate the choice for the rest - the opinions of the ballast are always interpreted in favor of the winners.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 21 January 2018 10: 44
            +2
            Who told you that I want to prove something to someone or settle accounts? There will be no winners if less than 50% of the population comes to the elections, because this is a Pyrrhic victory! The authorities understand this very well and are nervous. Not only is the current government not legitimate due to the fact that at the time, Yeltsin practically made a coup d'etat, so it will look even more illegitimate in the eyes of the West because of low turnout. And my conscience will be clear. So the ballast is you, alas!
        2. MrK
          MrK 21 January 2018 01: 26
          +4
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          For the forty-eighth time I write for the "tankers" I and my relatives do not go to this election

          Well done. your ballot counting team will throw for Putin. It turns out that you secretly voted for him.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 21 January 2018 10: 45
            +1
            So they and yours can withdraw during recounting! And you will also vote for Putin.
    2. Victor N
      Victor N 21 January 2018 16: 18
      0
      There were never perfect candidates NEVER.
      We choose the best of the presented.
      Or, if you will, the "lesser evil."
      Whoever is chosen is worthy of the people.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 21 January 2018 18: 35
        0
        So there are no better ones! Liberals and populists. Putin is no better than neither Sobchak nor other personalities! By the way, you never answered how many children you have?
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  16. midshipman
    midshipman 20 January 2018 10: 09
    27
    Dear Alexander, you have published a wonderful article. I will add one fact to it (although I could add a lot). The PRC in 2017 filed more than 1,3 million patents in science and industry, and 26 thousand in Russia. Here is the innovative economy of the Russian Federation. I have the honor.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 January 2018 19: 17
      +4
      And out of these 1,3 million patents, it’s good if 1000 go live — and not a single breakthrough.
  17. SPACE
    SPACE 20 January 2018 10: 21
    +5
    Someone has another severe attack of all-polymers.
  18. free
    free 20 January 2018 10: 38
    +7
    That's what life-giving TV does!
    I would correct it. That's how TV does from living animals. Because they stopped thinking like that, it's already an animal.
    1. Pavil144
      Pavil144 20 January 2018 11: 00
      +2
      The rating must be kept.
  19. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2018 10: 41
    21
    The author of the article and I are very similar in their attitude to what is happening. Apparently the fruits of Soviet education and upbringing are impossible to beat out. And as engineers by training, we are not inclined to understate or exaggerate something, but honestly outline the problem as it is.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 20 January 2018 11: 58
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      . And as engineers we’re not inclined to downplay

      Excuse me, but what university are you in and when did you get your engineering education?
    2. Victor N
      Victor N 21 January 2018 17: 01
      0
      The mission of science is to see and evaluate the problem earlier than others, to warn and, at least initially, to outline WAYS of SOLUTION, which will be further clarified and specified. Here is the last in the article at all, without which elements for panic are thrown into society. Let's be more responsible, since we consider ourselves more knowledgeable.
      I wish you success!
  20. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2018 10: 42
    19
    Quote: housewife
    Not an article, but a yapping. And the vocabulary for the engineer is strange! And the comments are all from hungry unemployed homeless people.

    ----------------------------
    If housewives are richer than engineers in the country, then something is definitely wrong in the country.
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 21 January 2018 00: 36
      +6
      Not richer. I'm from simple. The husband, however, is an engineer by training. So thanks to Yeltsin and the humpbacker for having to work ... but who just did not work, except for the engineer. And earlier it was worse, just as when incomes are small, any improvement is felt. Why a housewife? Late children, it happened. 94th and 95th birthdays. You can imagine how it was with two babies then, the production stands, the shops are empty, there is a kindergarten, but it's expensive, it's cheaper to stay at home. Then she drove to school, plus a musician. Schools are far away to let go of six-year-olds. While they themselves began to walk, I was already forty, and they took up to 35 years of normal work more or less. Only a cleaner, a dishwasher. The husband said no! We need you at home. And over the years my plant was pulled away for rent, some were demolished altogether! I don’t know why I had all this ... The country lived like that. Just at the word, the housewife apparently represents a bored fifa. Yeah, I'm bored of all trades!
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 21 January 2018 17: 06
        +1
        Well-being and health to you, dear to your family!
        Your husband is a Worthy man, an example to follow.
        Good Luck!
        1. a housewife
          a housewife 22 January 2018 02: 10
          +1
          Thank you, Victor!
  21. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2018 10: 44
    13
    Quote: captain
    Well, that's the point of the article you indicated. Do you propose for Navalny or the chairman of the collective farm? We must not be afraid to write, to name names. And so just a chatter.

    ----------------------------------------------
    Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin-Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU (B.), Generalissimo. Arranges?
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 20 January 2018 14: 32
      +5
      Quote: Altona
      Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin... .

      You are ahead.
      I wanted to write, IV Stalin, a half-educated seminarist. wink
      1. MrK
        MrK 21 January 2018 01: 29
        +2
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        I wanted to write, IV Stalin, a half-educated seminarist.

        Who are you and who is Stalin. This is not even funny.
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 21 January 2018 12: 13
          +2
          Quote: mrark
          Who are you and who is Stalin. This is not even funny.

          You would be hungry manenko. Maybe go to a therapist. Prescribe pills. You should not behave with strangers like a street punks.
          Yes, Stalin is also a half-educated seminarist, but one of the outstanding leaders of Russia, one of the founders of the Soviet Union.
  22. faiver
    faiver 20 January 2018 10: 51
    12
    author of all 150% rights ...
  23. Scud
    Scud 20 January 2018 10: 55
    +4
    In Soviet times, slogans hung - if you don’t agree with something, offer your own.
  24. flicker
    flicker 20 January 2018 11: 52
    +8
    The author, if he is really worried about the country, should remember:
    that the medicine should not be more dangerous than the disease itself.
    Yes, the country (by analogy with the health of the body) is sick and if it is not treated, it will die (relatively speaking) in 10 years, if you start to treat it with radical methods, then it will die tomorrow. If you stretch for 10 years, then you may be able to find drugs.
    Today we are being pressured (primarily by Putin) from outside because we have never been pressed, and putting pressure on Putin from the inside is helping someone who is pushing from outside.
    1. onix757
      onix757 20 January 2018 11: 56
      10
      In short, there is no money, but you hold on.
      1. flicker
        flicker 20 January 2018 13: 30
        +6
        What do we want to offer?
    2. MrK
      MrK 21 January 2018 01: 37
      +6
      Quote: flicker
      If you stretch 10 years, you may be able to find drugs


      Putin has been looking for a cure for 17 years and will never find it. You think over the next 6 years they will bring him a magic lamp. That would be a day to search with fire.
      1. flicker
        flicker 21 January 2018 12: 11
        +3
        There is such an expression as "time heals."
        Take at least Maidan in Ukraine. And Maidan can be attributed to a radical measure, carried out, as it seemed to them, against the "thief", against corruption, against the oligarchs - was perceived enthusiastically then Almost 4 years have passed, everyone who has eyes and a little mind sees in him a tragedy.
        Over the 4 years, the world has changed a lot - in many areas with a minus sign, but in one area it is clearly with a plus sign, in understanding the processes taking place in the world. 3-4 years ago, many processes were poorly distinguishable or misunderstood. Sobering is happening now (albeit slowly). The war in Syria - its true goals are now understood much more clearly than 3-4 years ago. Or the role of the United States, its attitude towards the allies (for example, Georgia Saakashvili, Ukraine, the Saudi princes, Erdogan, etc.), for 3-4 years, the attitude towards them has noticeably manifested and changed. US influence is slowly but inevitably melting. Thanks to these processes, many countries begin to think about their sovereignty from the United States (Germany, Turkey, etc.). The world is starting to change. And our role in these processes is one of the main. So the main thing for us in Russia now is not to do stupid things (time plays against our opponents more than against us), and there we can calmly deal with the recovery of the country with knowledge.
        Try to look at the situation from this angle.
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 22 January 2018 09: 42
          0
          Quote: flicker
          time plays against our opponents stronger than against us

          Who said?
          and then calmly with knowledge, we will be able to tackle the country's recovery.
          And who knows how to improve the country? Current therapist? I doubt something ... lately
          1. flicker
            flicker 22 January 2018 10: 18
            +3
            Who said?

            The facts speak, first of all, of the reaction of our opponents: to the situation in Syria, Ukraine. The reaction of many states to the policies pursued by the United States. The split in the ruling world elite - and it is obvious: attacks on Trump, the Vatican’s speech, the confusion of the Arab sheikhs, the growth of the Chinese economy, etc. etc.
            And who knows how to improve the country? Current therapist? I doubt something ... lately

            The world as a whole must be cured, and through it we too. Now in the world the battle is not for oil, gas, dollars, yuan - now there is a battle for a new world order. Our role: to prevent the establishment of a world order with the help of military force. The role of China is economic victory, etc. That is why there is an attack on Russia, and Putin is at the head of Russia's position and policy. Therefore, they hit Putin.
      2. Victor N
        Victor N 21 January 2018 17: 12
        +1
        The disease is severely neglected, but there are no ready-made treatment methods. And the staff uses past knowledge, suitable for the treatment of other diseases.
  25. ccsr
    ccsr 20 January 2018 11: 56
    +8
    Author: Alexander writes:
    Our growth is like growth in tsarist Russia until 1914, when growth percentages were impressive, but profits were exported to the West, mainly to France.

    The blatant ignorance and ignorance of their history in this statement indicates that such "engineers" cannot be trusted.
    It was precisely the restriction in the export of profits abroad in tsarist Russia (it should not have exceeded 1/8 of the share, i.e. 12,5% ​​of the total net profit) that made foreigners and our entrepreneurs invest huge amounts of money both in the development of their own production, so in real estate construction, land acquisition, etc. It is on the territory of the Russian Empire. That is why we have preserved a huge number of architectural monuments, paintings, valuables acquired in the 19-20 centuries. even despite wars and revolutions. Moreover, many foreigners specifically accepted our citizenship in order to enjoy the benefits of a subject of the Russian Empire.
    By the way, the French just bought bonds in order to receive fixed, taxed profit on them, i.e. State control over the export of capital was established.
    1. Sansculotte
      Sansculotte 20 January 2018 12: 17
      +8
      That is, the non-alternative Vovik is even dumber than expected?
    2. nils
      nils 20 January 2018 21: 38
      +5
      Quote: ccsr
      The blatant ignorance and ignorance of their history in this statement indicates that such "engineers" cannot be trusted.
      It was precisely the restriction in the export of profit abroad in tsarist Russia (it should not have exceeded 1 / 8 parts, i.e. 12,5% of all net profit) that made foreigners and our businessmen invest huge amounts of money in developing their own production,

      BRAVO!
      Thought this moment no one will notice.
      1. MrK
        MrK 21 January 2018 01: 49
        +2
        Quote: nils
        Quote: ccsr
        The blatant ignorance and ignorance of their history in this statement indicates that such "engineers" cannot be trusted.

        Quote: nils
        BRAVO!
        Thought this moment no one will notice.


        From the book of A. Kurlandchik "Damned" Soviet power. on Proza.ru.
        "... In 1887-1913, the West invested 1 783 million gold rubles in Russia. Over the same period, net income was exported from Russia - 2 326 million gold rubles (the excess of income over investments over 26 years by 513 million gold rubles). Annually, payments of interest and loan repayments up to 500 million gold rubles were transferred abroad (in modern prices this is 15 billion dollars).
        From 1888 to 1908, Russia had a negative trade balance with the rest of the countries in the amount of 6,6 billion gold rubles, that is, more than it was imported annually for 330 million gold rubles. At that time, the amount of 6,6 billion rubles was 1,6 times the value of all Russian industrial enterprises and working capital for them in the 1913 year.
        In other words, having built two enterprises in Russia, the West built three enterprises on the money of Russia".
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 21 January 2018 12: 43
          +1
          Quote: mrark
          that is, more than 330 million gold rubles were exported annually than imported.

          I think that the author was slightly cunning, not to mention who exported money from Russia and why there was a shortage. For example, let me remind you that the Paris exhibition in 1900 was visited by 50 million people, and
          Thanks to the special friendly relations between Russia and France, the largest exposition area was allocated for the Russian department - 24 m².

          To participate in exhibitionse Russia spent 5 rubles (of which the government allocated 226, and institutions and exhibitors 895 rubles). The highest established commission was headed by the director of the Department of Trade and Manufactures V.I. Kovalevsky, in addition to him, Prince Tenishev was appointed as the general commissioner, and Petersburger R.F. Meltser was chosen as the chief architect.

          Everyone knows how Russian noblemen made money in casinos, but few people know that several tens of thousands of Russian merchants and workers visited exhibitions in Paris for their money to get acquainted with the latest achievements.
          But this is not the point, but the fact that for every ruble invested in Russia (the Baku deposits, for example), foreign investors received multiple profits, and even restrictions on their export, left them tremendous funds, which they had the right to legally take out from Russia. But the author of the article apparently did not hear about it, or did not want to write.
  26. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2018 12: 00
    +5
    Quote: ccsr
    Excuse me, but what university are you in and when did you get your engineering education?

    -------------------------
    Moscow Order of the Red Banner of Labor Road Institute (Moscow, 74 Leningradsky Prospekt), Department of DSM, 1992 graduation.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 20 January 2018 13: 12
      +8
      Quote: Altona
      1992 edition.

      I sympathize with the children of perestroika - you had neither the knowledge nor the experience of the work of Soviet engineers, which is why you are being fooled by all the nonsense that demagogues and humanities are trying to do.
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 21 January 2018 17: 20
        +2
        Your insinuations are at least strange.
  27. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2018 12: 09
    11
    Quote: ccsr
    The blatant ignorance and ignorance of their history in this statement indicates that such "engineers" cannot be trusted.

    -----------------------------------
    From the history of my family and the geography of my region, I can clearly see what happened in the Russian Empire and became under the USSR. Under the USSR, traveling and a small rural settlement became a rather large city with developed industry. Infant mortality was defeated (in the grandfather's family, two children died before the age of one year) and various diseases, in particular trachoma, common among the Chuvash, the huts were blackened and caused eye diseases. Profit for me is, in general, an abstract phenomenon, at some period a person is satisfied with his mathematical well-being and further turns into preservation of accumulated and already strains a person. As for the development of the Russian Empire, the question is also so controversial, industry was concentrated in several cities, the rest of the territory was also impoverished. The Soviet government spurred the development of industry at times, moreover, it removed banking and other spheres from under foreign influence.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 20 January 2018 13: 15
      +5
      Quote: Altona
      Soviet power spurred the development of industry at times,

      I am no less proud of you than Soviet history, but I also think that lying about the Russian Empire is unacceptable - we have a common history, albeit a tragic one, we must love and be proud of it, regardless of the current situation.
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    1. Victor N
      Victor N 21 January 2018 17: 24
      0
      I see, sankyulot .....
  29. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2018 12: 13
    +7
    Quote: flicker
    Today we are being pressured (primarily by Putin) from outside because we have never been pressed, and putting pressure on Putin from the inside is helping someone who is pushing from outside.

    -------------------------------
    Pressure will occur on any ruler of Russia if he pursues an active foreign policy, regardless of his name. The poor and jerked population will not be able to help Putin, just as it could not help the USSR in 1992, because then the country was also actively bitten from above and rapidly created the impoverishment of the people. If the current system is trying to reproduce the same picture, then the result will be the same.
    1. flicker
      flicker 21 January 2018 19: 36
      +3
      [quote = Altona]
      -------------------------------
      [quote] The poor and jerked population will not be able to help Putin, just as it could not help the USSR in 1992, because then the country was also actively bitten from above and rapidly created impoverishment of the people. [/ quote]
      In 1992, there was actually no one to help, there was no leader (GKChP tried and deflated).
      Now there is a leader.
      [quote] If the current system is trying to reproduce the same picture, then the result will be the same. [/ quote]
      It will be the same if fierce and irresponsible critics from below are added to the rodents from above.
      And yes, "a poor and jerky population that could not help the USSR in 1992,"
      now regret it. that then they could not save the state, even despite the fact that they were poor and shaken.
  30. seos
    seos 20 January 2018 12: 29
    +4
    The author writes everything correctly but the hatred of the people is trying to throw on Putin ... this is the legacy of the 90s, the liberals in power ... they are the ones who are responsible for all of the above ...
    With this opus, the author is trying to push the people to vote for the agent of the State Department with the call sign "Sisyan"!
    If the "Sisyan" comes to power, the 90s will really seem holy ....
  31. Overlock
    Overlock 20 January 2018 12: 43
    +7
    Quote: Freeman
    With foreign accounts, Grudinin turned up tightly.

    framed, will be punished. Do not be punished - not framed. There is no third.
  32. Overlock
    Overlock 20 January 2018 12: 45
    +6
    Quote: seos
    So you chose the United States and its pocket oligarchy .... you betrayed the homeland ...

    can shoot right away? But what about pluralism? Freedom of speech and press? Are you from the Cheka by any chance?
  33. Overlock
    Overlock 20 January 2018 12: 47
    12
    Quote: siberalt
    We will live until May. Read New May Decrees

    so even the old May decrees have not been fulfilled, and you are waiting for new ones. People will be confused that in the first place to fulfill, new or old
  34. Disorder
    Disorder 20 January 2018 12: 51
    +5
    Author's answer: “Nyche!” This is only information for consideration.

    Reflectors dofiga, no one to work.
  35. Loess
    Loess 20 January 2018 12: 59
    +9
    The author was ashamed even to indicate his last name ... This, however, is an indicator ....
    As for the lack of free circles, this is nonsense, I have children in different schools studying, each has free circles.
    Enrages from constant postponements of the commissioning of new ships, missiles, aircraft, etc.
    If it infuriates, I would go to work at the plant, I would show it as it should, so as not to infuriate.
  36. Overlock
    Overlock 20 January 2018 13: 08
    +8
    Quote: seos
    but the hatred of the people is trying to throw on Putin ... this is the legacy of the 90s, the liberals in power ... it is they who are responsible for all of the above ...

    Listen, you’re fed up with moans about liberals! Change the delivery address of your moans to him!
  37. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 20 January 2018 13: 09
    +1
    How humiliating and very feminine it is to sit and wait when they offer you someone to choose from. So they offer us something from which it is impossible to choose. Or unpromising stability or chaos. What will be the choice ?! He is predestinated.
  38. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2018 13: 25
    +8
    Quote: ccsr
    I sympathize with the children of perestroika - you had neither the knowledge nor the experience of the work of Soviet engineers, which is why you are being fooled by all the nonsense that demagogues and humanities are trying to do.

    -------------------------------------------
    Please feel sorry for yourself, where I work, the experience of Soviet engineers was small. And basically it was licensed. I studied hydraulics using licensed copies of pumps from Mannesmann-Rexroth (there was such a Kalinin plant in Moscow, produced 313,323,333 pumps and much more), now it belongs to the Robert Bosch group. Then he worked with car trailers, which our managers from the USSR shoved into the construction industry. And there, the axles were also licensed copies of the German ones, as well as in the main automobile industry. Pneumatics for our trucks are also old licensed copies of the WABCO and Knorr-Bremse pneumatic valves. I saw what and how was done by managers, who later declared "perestroika". If you have nothing to say on the case, then better not say anything.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 20 January 2018 20: 36
      +4
      Quote: Altona
      Please feel sorry for yourself

      And I was lucky to work with that part of the Soviet engineers who created what was the best in the world and defended itself as a state secret. That's why I can evaluate your level as a specialist - do not blame me.
  39. flicker
    flicker 20 January 2018 13: 46
    +5
    The first part of the text: list all the negativity in the country.
    The second part of the text (it is the same conclusion):
    Recently I argued with a familiar, honest and intelligent man. He is more than 80 years old and, naturally, receives information on the first and second buttons of the TV. He believes that in the country of disgrace from top to bottom, but it is necessary to choose the GDP, which is about to cope with idlers, thieves, talkers, enemies. On questions about the non-fulfillment of the GDP of their promises, about who put forward these useless ones, why the “Kudyshnye” did not appear over the 18 years, the acquaintance replies that you should vote for the GDP for the people. That's what life-giving TV does! It obligingly and competently brings the ready conclusions from the constant allocation of one person in the country.

    Well, this is understandable: Putin is to blame.
    An “honest and intelligent person”, even at the age of 80 (receiving information on 1 and 2 buttons of a TV), understands the situation better than an “advanced engineer”.
    Or maybe there are such problems in our country that these "honest and intelligent" have been replaced by "modern advanced engineers"?
  40. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2018 13: 48
    +8
    Quote: ccsr
    that’s why you are being fooled by all the rubbish that the demagogues-humanists are trying to make.

    ----------------------------
    It is difficult for a person with mathematical thinking and engineering education to boil rubbish, because he is used to operating the results of comparisons, rather than meanings and images. I will continue your cry for the “children of perestroika,” because you have the idea that such a powerful system like the USSR breaks down at once and it is difficult to see the genesis and the process of scrapping. The industry of the USSR was based on industry science, the so-called research institutes that developed products, technologies, tools and machines, seed and pedigree stocks and all this was given to industry and agriculture. How did decomposition begin? That's right, with the decomposition of the research institutes, when they began to laugh at their worthlessness, when they began to attach them to the thieves, as a laboratory assistant for light work. You remember Ryazanov’s films “Garage”, “Office Romance”, and others, where they ridiculed branch science and planning. An engineer in the USSR was mainly a conductor of ready-made solutions to research institutes and introduced them into industry. An engineer also needs appropriate equipment, a scientific base and research results, international experience, and qualified personnel in the end. Now there are few branch research institutes, but in a number of areas there are none at all, we use a western franchise. Today's engineer has many times more features, design and 3D-design programs, software, the ability to buy any element base, but there is no branch science. The Soviet engineer had branch science, but it was scarce with the implementation of what was planned, and there was not enough equipment and elemental base. Something like this. Therefore, when moving a slogan or thesis, do not make it unfounded.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 20 January 2018 20: 41
      +3
      Quote: Altona
      How did decomposition begin? That's right, with the decomposition of the research institutes, when they began to laugh at their worthlessness, when they began to attach them to the thieves, as a laboratory assistant for light work.

      In the eighties I had to work with the Sarapul Radio Plant and its design bureau, and I can say that what was done there (not the Ural receiver, of course) was in terms of its performance characteristics at the level of the best world developments (R-394 KM, for example). In terms of reliability and temperature range of operation, they were not equal at all. That was how they knew how to work in the USSR — now, however, I don’t know what they are doing, maybe even better. And interestingly, I did not see any decomposition there - on the contrary, they worked very responsibly.
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 21 January 2018 00: 55
        +2
        In general, what are the radio plants now? What are they doing? I worked on just one thing - in Novorossiysk on Priboy, so they ruined it, without even having time to finish it. It could not be ruined, because materials and components were received from Russia, the Baltic states, Moldova, Armenia. The Union collapsed, at the same time all production relations. The quality was very high. As an employee of the Quality Control Department, I know.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 January 2018 23: 34
      +2
      "The USSR industry was based on industry science, the so-called research institutes that developed products, technologies, tools and machines, seed and pedigree funds and all this gave to industry and agriculture" - USSR industry was primarily based on defense orders - which consumed 70% of GDP , more than half of civilian products went for free, to ensure half of the world - you have to support yours, but your "home" ones will tolerate - there is a plan, but they don’t give a damn, they put everything promising on the shelves, in every research institute and in the 90s the guys who created it all, dusted off the shelves, took their development and went to where their work will be evaluated and implemented.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 21 January 2018 01: 23
        +4
        Why not 90%? If you lie, so lie on a grand scale. According to the commandments of Dr. Goebbels.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 21 January 2018 11: 49
          +1
          Does it hurt my eyes? It was all that way - the USSR provided half the world, and when it collapsed, these friends - Russia simply spat in the face.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 21 January 2018 11: 56
            +2
            I see you really really do not like it. So where are the firewood about 70 percent of GDP?
            Argument or you are an ordinary whistler.
      2. ccsr
        ccsr 21 January 2018 12: 48
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        USSR industry was primarily based on defense orders - which consumed 70% of GDP,

        This is a lie because the defense order, even during World War II, could not reach such a value from GDP, if only because people had to eat, teach children, treat, search for minerals, build roads, etc.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 21 January 2018 16: 18
          0
          Considering how many countries of the USSR pumped up weapons and including spending money on the development of -70% of GDP, a very real figure was announced by one of the former generals of the USSR Ministry of Defense, an interview must be sought. “I couldn’t reach World War II” - of course I couldn’t, then there was no production: missiles, ICBMs, warheads, satellites, nuclear submarines and air defense systems, supersonic bombers, fighters, etc. For example, project 661 nuclear submarines cost as much as the Soviet lunar program — two billion rubles at 1968 prices — then the USSR budget was about 170 billion rubles, about 2% of GDP was spent on space exploration, 2% on housing construction, medicine 5%, science 4,5, 10%, agriculture 1990 percent, etc. In the 1000s, the USSR’s GDP was XNUMX billion rubles.
  41. 82т11
    82т11 20 January 2018 14: 17
    +4
    It’s interesting everywhere in the hospital, in production, in school, they try to put a person who has experience in the specialty as the leader.
    And here we are sucked in by Sobchak, Navalny, Grudinin, etc. who didn’t even manage the city and say that this one will definitely be pulled to be president.

    People, no one wants the surgeon to treat him only from the institute and who has never performed an operation !!! So why are you all being fooled by these clowns ?!

    With this logic, let's then do something like a bum to the president, and what really bums themselves just do not steal billions!)
  42. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2018 14: 24
    +9
    Quote: 82т11
    With this logic, let's then do something like a bum to the president, and what really bums themselves just do not steal billions!)

    ------------------------------------------------
    For a sustainable system, the vector of which is determined by certain communities, a collective mind, such as in the USA or China, doesn’t care who the Kenyan president is Barack Obama or the red-haired clown Donald Trump. For Russia, the choice of a leader for some reason is always historical, moral, state and whatever choice. It should not be so. Russia should have a patriotic elite, and not a bunch of multidirectional demagogues, which are really found in the same western banks, Moscow gay clubs and restaurants.
    1. 82т11
      82т11 20 January 2018 16: 21
      +2
      There is always a person who makes decisions, and not necessarily he will be in sight, but he always is.
      And about collective decisions they usually remember when they want to evade responsibility! Like I'm not the only one!

      Therefore, in any business should be professionals, not a team of professional talkers!
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 16: 40
        +4
        Quote: Altona
        Russia should have a patriotic elite, and not a bunch of multidirectional demagogues

        Eugene, "maya, scho maya". This "gathering" even arose under the Union (this is strange, huh?), And at one moment it cannot be torn.
        And now you just once again stated that "it is better to be rich and healthy."
        It is difficult (and not necessary) to argue with this, but you, as always, do not indicate the ways.
        Very reminiscent of an Owl from a joke about mice (and hedgehogs):
        And how do you become hedgehogs - think for yourself. My business is strategy ...
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 21 January 2018 01: 26
          +2
          This gathering arose earlier. So here you are a little missed.
      2. uskrabut
        uskrabut 24 January 2018 17: 17
        0
        Quote: 82т11
        And about collective decisions they usually remember when they want to evade responsibility!

        I agree! Each jamb has a specific surname, name and patronymic (year of birth and address)
    2. uskrabut
      uskrabut 24 January 2018 17: 20
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      and not a bunch of multidirectional demagogues, which are really found in the same western banks, Moscow gay clubs and restaurants.

      This is called a "full zop" ... sorry for the typo
  43. bandabas
    bandabas 20 January 2018 14: 34
    +8
    What to talk about? https://news.rambler.ru/army/3894
    0473-shoygu-nazval-novyy-vid-terroristicheskoy-ug
    rozy /? utm_source = head & utm_campaign = self_promo
    & utm
    _medium = news & utm_content = news] And this is stated by the super-duper Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. By the way, look at the government meetings headed by Dimon. Or to the Duma with the Federation Council. Almost EVERYTHING !!!!! on gadgets. And such a discovery, there are drones. It's not someone else's hands to rake the rubble, getting loot, titles and orders for it. Like I found out for the first time, a defective manager.
    1. sabotage
      sabotage 20 January 2018 15: 56
      +6
      Plague on the houses of government members.
  44. Giants
    Giants 20 January 2018 15: 46
    +8
    By the way, on the Kyrgyz debt of Russia. Yesterday's news:
    The State Duma ratified the law on writing off Kyrgyzstan’s balances of its debt to Russia in the amount of $ 240 million. This was reported in the State Duma database.
    Last year, President of Kyrgyzstan Almazbek Atambayev said the finance ministers of Russia and Kyrgyzstan exchanged protocols on writing off all debts to Bishkek.
    Subsequently, the State Duma Chairman Vyacheslav Volodin explained that the cancellation of debts of Kyrgyzstan is aimed at developing relations between the countries.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 24 January 2018 17: 15
      +1
      And for me it was better to spend this money on improving the lives of Russian citizens, but better on saving sick children, which we are asked daily on TV screens
  45. Overlock
    Overlock 20 January 2018 15: 48
    +1
    Quote: s-t Petrov
    Opponents will also go, but they will be in a bad mood and again curse all this disgrace

    you are clairvoyant, Wang is resting. The mood will be wonderful, because his shirt is closer to the body. And I have it very close.
  46. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2018 16: 28
    +5
    Quote: 82т11
    There is always a person who makes decisions, and not necessarily he will be in sight, but he always is.
    And about collective decisions they usually remember when they want to evade responsibility! Like I'm not the only one!

    ----------------------------------
    It is about developing the main program for the development of society and the desire to implement it. The program is usually developed by some community, not just one person. In your case, you are talking about tactical tasks, when the ruling community is hesitant and cannot develop any stable trajectory, or wants to make simple decisions. Now we are witnessing this in the US establishment, when simple forceful decisions are being pressed that are required to show strength, confidence, opportunity, but for the most part these are slogans that are easily stopped by the leader of a small but proud country.
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 21 January 2018 00: 58
      +1
      Where does the little flag come from so pretty?
  47. HEATHER
    HEATHER 20 January 2018 16: 31
    +1
    Analysis of the situation in Russia from the point of view of the factory engineer-leader. Not a President yet? So lead the crowd. Do not go where you do not rummage.
  48. Galleon
    Galleon 20 January 2018 16: 38
    17
    160 comments, there will be more. What is truly surprising is the hatred of Putin’s supporters, which they pour on their opponents. As if we were not living in one country, we were breathing more than one air, we were not worried about common problems. Isn’t we all working for this country? No, it turns out that this means nothing.
    This is a matter of staff training: on the Internet, in the Russian Guard, in border guards or at customs, in the economy. Digital economy - there is money, but no people. People are not needed. Therefore, they are cutting hospitals and maternity hospitals, so they create unbearable conditions for doctors (if you want to live better, go to business), so teachers on the social ladder push them somewhere to the level of attendants. They have schools in England, hospitals in Germany, and it’s better to catch them here from Central Asia, because you can put a collar on a slave, but you can’t give a local one the collar.
    This is the real attitude of this government towards people - hatred. Because the time is hot, the masks are removed. This power began with the betrayal of the Kursk crew - and ends with all of us + Donbass.
    In general, the strange thing is the election campaign. So that I am for the Communists? And he listened to some, revered others - no, guys, that's enough. It's time for you to exit.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 20 January 2018 17: 57
      11
      they simply don’t have simple answers to simple questions. They immediately recall EBN and Ukraine. According to the current account, they have nothing to show: Syria is incomprehensible, but far from the end; Ukraine is understandable, there is no end in sight, Crimea is all clear; inside the country, it is clear that the mess and the end is not visible. That's so aggressive therefore. Some already offer to shut their mouths, and it’s not far to the demonstration shootings.
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 20 January 2018 20: 59
        0
        Overlock Today, 17:57
        they simply don’t have simple answers to simple questions.
        Some already offer mouths to shut up, and so on indicative shootings near.

        Correction
        - Evidence executions. These will be simple answers to simple questions.
        1. Galleon
          Galleon 20 January 2018 22: 22
          +4
          You would have been talking about evidence-based executions easier ... And then you’ll get someone who didn’t expect when the power will finally be replaced.
          1. Freeman
            Freeman 21 January 2018 08: 33
            0
            Quote: Galleon
            You would have been talking about evidence-based executions easier ... And then you’ll get someone who didn’t expect when the power will finally be replaced.

            Yes, I would not want to, either, but at least look at the situation on the site.
            Instead of discussing programs and what can come of it, we water each other like machine guns.
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 20 January 2018 22: 15
        +8
        But what do the dissatisfied want? The responsibility of the authorities, their succession, and most importantly, the possibility of a CHOICE, real.
    2. ccsr
      ccsr 20 January 2018 20: 45
      +2
      Quote: Galleon
      What really surprises: the hatred of Putin’s supporters,

      And the genuine hatred of the regular propagandists towards Putin does not surprise you, by chance?
      1. Cossack 471
        Cossack 471 20 January 2018 23: 49
        11
        There is no hatred. people just want to make Putin work for the people. and not to "business captains"
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 21 January 2018 01: 46
          +5
          Russia entered the top five major investors for offshore zones, and the assets of wealthy citizens in offshore reached 84 percent of Russia's GDP.
          In 2015 - 2016, the number of wealthy citizens of Russia with a fortune of more than $ 1 million increased by 19,7% to 182 thousand people, according to a study by World Wealth Report 2017 of the French consulting company Capgemini. This is the fastest growth for the indicated period in the world, where on average the number of wealthy people grew by 7,5% to 16,5 million.
          The share of property owned 1% of Russian citizens with the highest incomesin 2015 reached 43% of all property of residents (compared with 22% in 1995), the Wid.world organization’s “Report on Inequality in the World” says. In 2017, according to Bloomberg, the 27 richest citizens of Russia increased their wealth by $ 24,7 billion (1,4 trillion rubles).
          The volume of offshore assets of Russian citizens, according to the US National Bureau of Research, as of August 2017, is three times the amount of the country's international reserves. In August, the amount of reserves amounted to 418,4 billion dollars, therefore amount of offshore savings, according to the conclusions of the bureau, may be about 1,2 trillion dollars, or 72,3 trillion rubles at the current rate. it 84% of Russian GDP 2016 following year.
          In the third quarter of 2017 the poverty rate was 13,1% of the population and became the highest third quarter in six years, the RANEPA study says. In general, in January-September, cash income of 13,8 percent of the population (20,3 million people) were below the subsistence level (10,3 thousand rubles per month).
          As follows from the RANEPA survey, 13% of the population assess their situation as "quite difficult, you have to deny yourself some goods and products." Another 4% "barely make ends meet." A survey by Romir shows that every fifth family (21%) from November 2016 to November 2017 rated their financial condition as difficult or very difficultbecause they were forced to refuse to buy some goods or even “barely made ends meet.” Only a third of the families surveyed rated their position as good or calm, as they could afford any daily expenses or major purchases.
        2. ccsr
          ccsr 21 January 2018 12: 53
          +1
          Quote: Cossack 471
          people just want to make Putin work for the people. and not to "business captains"

          In fact, this very people in the nineties voted for the capitalists. Why the hell are the capitalists OBLIGATED for the people — they care about their profits, and therefore all idle talk that the Way owes something to someone is absolute profanity. He leads the capitalist country, so take it as it is perceived throughout the world - in the USA, Haiti, Cambodia, Japan or on the Papuan islands.
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 21 January 2018 01: 29
        +3
        After reading Lenin, this is exactly what does not surprise, because it is a zealous defense of the current government and the system of the petty-bourgeois intelligentsia.
        1. Freeman
          Freeman 21 January 2018 08: 50
          0
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          After reading Lenin, this is exactly what does not surprise, because it is a zealous defense of the current government and the system of the petty-bourgeois intelligentsia.

          Why only by the intelligentsia? The proletarians in their classical form are no longer there. Almost everyone owns a property. In cities, this housing is in the countryside, land units (we will not take into account who and how has disposed of). So the overwhelming mass of the population can (conditionally) be attributed to the petty bourgeoisie, and the smallest one.
  49. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 20 January 2018 17: 06
    +6
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: andrej-shironov
    You didn’t even bother to name the company

    Easy. TSNIIMV Minobemash, Kaliningrad, which is near Moscow. Nowadays Composite NGO, Korolev. Are you satisfied?

    Quote: andrej-shironov
    Everything is so sideways side by side, so that they don’t grab hold of the tongue

    Today is Troll Day.
    You remarkably characterized exactly your manner of speaking, Sharikov.

    Quote: andrej-shironov
    for sure everything is not the way you write

    Do not write, but write ... letters.
    So, so ... I worked there for 10 years, and fellow students still work there.
    So - by ... however, I am not surprised ... Sharikov.

    And if the truth is on your side, why did you turn off commenting? wink And again I ran into the grammar when there are no arguments. Fe laughing eric interlocutor you golovan!
  50. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 20 January 2018 17: 44
    +6
    "After what Rogozin did with the space program, he is obliged to marry at least Tereshkova!" And she needs him? And then ... some mats! And what did Medvedev do? Medinsky? Skvortsova? Vasilyeva? ..... In general: Announce. Please, the whole list! The outrages that have done with astronautics, education, health,
    leadership ...... belong to the current socio-political "SYSTEM" !!! Which is "successfully" headed by, for eighteen years, the current president of GDP. You can write a big article about how many promises he did not fulfill! And most importantly: he did not break this vicious, full-time SYSTEM! And it was not very noticeable that he-Tried! I have never voted neither for Yeltsin, nor for Putin, nor for Medvedev. And now it turns out that this year there is no one to vote for !!! He laid eyes on Grudinin ... looked closely ..: the "outfit" is normal ... the "radio tape recorder" plays nicely .. and inside it is the "mash-up": who is pleased and who is stinky (!) ... who will get the burda? It seems that even now I won’t vote ... except that "with grief", for Zhirinovsky!
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 24 January 2018 17: 08
      0
      and for that, every year he listens to the stupid question of the population and gives his wise answers .....
      Only the questions are the same every year, which bothers me a lot, maybe he doesn’t understand what his people are asking for?