Antitank hummingbirds

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Modern armies put on increasingly robust armor. Marines - in bulletproof vests, mine action vehicles. Tanks bristled with active and passive protective equipment. Army anti-aircraft missile systems and artillery become self-propelled and armored.



To counter the impenetrable armada, new fire weapons are being developed. But most of them require either permanent retention of the target being struck with a beam of illumination (Chrysanthemum ATGM, Kitolov CS, mine Grani, etc.), or targeting at the moment of target acquisition and shot (Javelin ATGM). This allows you to detect and destroy the calculation. In order to secure it as much as possible, a scheme is proposed that combines the capabilities of the microbLA and military means of dealing with mobile and stationary targets.

The point is this: microscopic unmanned aerial take-off and landing devices with minimal equipment for controlling and searching targets are being developed. Their main task is intelligence and target designation. Such developments are already underway at DARPA. In our case, the devices should be able to be imperceptible as much as possible due to their size and low noise, to be securely fixed on the target surface and to send signals to which the weapons of the armored vehicle will be directed. The option of shooting a beacon from the UAV is possible, the ammunition will be sent to the signal, after which the drone will be returned to the operator, who is part of a linear unit or part of a reconnaissance and sabotage group. As for means of defeating targets, these are shells of barreled or rocket artillery, air munitions. The only condition is that they have a guidance system for the signal source.

The scheme of action of the complex is as follows: the operators conduct reconnaissance of objects, having discovered them, they direct and land the UAV on the target or shoot a beacon on it. Then report the coordinates to the firing position. The specified square is shelled with ammunition, equipped with a guidance system on the signal. The range is limited by the capabilities of a mini-UAV, today it is within three to five kilometers.

The smaller the drone, the lower the probability of its detection. The weight and dimensions of the power plant, UAV control systems tend to decrease. For example, restrictions have already been entered into the DARPA program: the size of the device should not exceed 15 centimeters in height, length and width.

The benefits of using a microblah are obvious. Sharply increases the likelihood of destruction of objects with a minimum consumption of ammunition. The shelling of targets marked with beacons can be conducted from closed artillery and mortar positions with guided missiles.

The data of American researchers speak about the effectiveness of this scheme: in order to hit a conditional strong point of a reinforced motorized infantry platoon with tanks deployed in trenches and BMP trenches, weapons and dummies, it took 2600 artillery 155-mm projectiles with shock and timer fuses. In this case, only about half of the tanks and infantry fighting vehicles were disabled. The direct hit of a large-caliber projectile induced at the beacon is guaranteed to destroy the target. The miniaturization of UAVs when applying the proposed scheme makes them more dangerous.
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  1. +8
    20 January 2018 20: 05
    For such "lice" the future. Cheap and cheerful.
    1. +4
      21 January 2018 06: 57
      Quote: lexus
      For such "lice" the future

      And why not "fleas"? Somehow "prettier", sounds ,,! wink
      1. 0
        21 January 2018 07: 00
        Flea people don't like it. wink
  2. +3
    20 January 2018 20: 52
    The nature of warfare is changing before our eyes. For every new poison - you need a new antidote.
  3. +1
    20 January 2018 21: 00
    people in the war --- and expensive and stupid (coming soon)
    1. +3
      21 January 2018 12: 30
      There is only one problem - robots cannot capture and hold territory No. There is a very old saying - until the foot of the infantryman has stepped on the territory, the territory is considered not captured.
      I understand that the "robots" can - make the territory deserted, so whatever you want, but the Soldier should occupy the "enemy trenches." Yes - first we cut ALL that could threaten our infantry, but without them, nowhere. laughing
      1. 0
        21 January 2018 14: 54
        it’s not from the amount of money even, from an outdated psychology.

        remote control - space, Mars, Poland, Japan and Alaska !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - DISTANCES ARE EQUAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        ARABAM OF THE EARTH IS NOT ENOUGH (AND THE JEWS PUSH)
        A AMERAM AND RUSSIAN?
        after victory, bananas (and others) can be transported through captured territory by unmanned KAMAZ trucks
  4. +3
    20 January 2018 21: 14
    The idea of ​​knocking out an opponent as partridge is quite tempting.
  5. 0
    20 January 2018 21: 40
    Until they need a compact and powerful source of energy to maintain a stable connection with the operator. I think the future is behind them, but a small neutron discharge will remove a bunch of problems.
    Something tells me that such should already be .. since there are atomic mines for mortars.
    1. +2
      21 January 2018 07: 01
      Quote: arhPavel
      Until they need a compact and powerful source of energy to maintain a stable connection with the operator.

      What for ?! In some cases, you do not need a "powerful source of energy"!
    2. +1
      22 January 2018 05: 41
      Quote: arhPavel
      a small neutron discharge will remove a bunch of problems.

      the neutron charge is triggered once, and you need to know when to use it + there can be many of these mosquitoes - one burned out, let the other go. therefore ... a controversial decision. however, mosquitoes still have problems - the same wind can blow them anywhere, and frost quickly gobble up the battery.
      in the future, probably, even the smallest combat unit will carry an electronic warfare complex)))
  6. +1
    20 January 2018 23: 23
    2 for chrysanthemum. It does not highlight the target.
    1. +1
      21 January 2018 06: 26
      Quote: Pattor
      2 for chrysanthemum. It does not highlight the target.

      And what cue on the entoy self-propelled gun MM-radar installed? Do you "trump" the fact that there are no missiles from the PAR-GOS? But the MM radar still glows! And when reconnaissance, target detection, and when pointing PT-missiles on the radio beam! Yes, even pointing PT missiles along the laser beam is now not as "secretive" as some time ago! NATO "villains" are developing laser direction finders capable of detecting a laser target beam of such ATGMs as the Cornet; "Chrysanthemum"!
      1. +1
        21 January 2018 09: 26
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        And what cue on the entoy self-propelled gun MM-radar installed?

        Not for backlighting.
        The Chrysanthemum missile can independently enter the PU-Target line either by means of laser beam control, or by means of a radar control, which is essentially its analogue. Those. in addition to the "laser trail" is also the "RL trail". Both the photodetector and the radio receiver of the systems are located in the stern of the rocket

        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        NATO "villains" are developing laser direction finders capable of detecting a laser target beam of such ATGMs as the Cornet; "Chrysanthemum"!

        So what? They can detect a missile using UV sensors. The question is that they will not be able to influence the management system.
        1. +1
          21 January 2018 12: 52
          Quote: Spade
          Not for backlighting.

          Did I really talk about the "backlight"? Moreover, I mentioned that there are no PT missiles with a semi-active radar seeker "on the chrysanthemum!" But the radar all the same "shines" at the "work" of "Chrysanthemums". The radar carries out reconnaissance of targets, observation ... it also forms a "radio path"! There is no separate radio generator there for “radiotropes! They can’t influence the control system? But they can detect this control system! And it’s not for nothing that it says: who is warned is armed! That is, there is a chance (chances) ... for example, for REP ...
          1. 0
            21 January 2018 16: 56
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            That is, there is a chance (chances) ... for example, for REP ...

            Sense? Switch to laser beam, and all business.
      2. 0
        21 January 2018 12: 34
        Sorry - SHO are you crazy? How will they detect a laser beam which, just for the sake of not detecting it, first shines "on top" of the target and only "falls" when the rocket approaches. That is, you can detect it, but it will already be “to the button” for you. Again, if the mattresses put certain filters under our emitters - stick in the ass and drum on the neck, in response to some time later simply massively “tune” the FCS to lasers of other wavelengths or “walking mode” tongue
        1. +1
          21 January 2018 14: 54
          You are smart, but fools are sitting in Paris ?! It is said: "luminium" means "luminium"! “He said” that France and another NATO country developed laser radiation direction-finding receivers for detecting ATGMs such as “Cornet”, “Chrysanthemum” (with 1000 amplification (?) Times), which means they need it; so they know .how to apply it! And, if we are talking about "Chrysanthemum", then there is laser guidance in 2-m place, and radar-in 1-m ...
  7. +1
    21 January 2018 00: 27

    On December 6, 2017, the Ministry of Defense of China presented a photo report on the tests carried out on a laser-based UAV counteraction system.
    “Short-range air defense system”, located on the chassis of two vehicles with standard 20-foot ISO containers. On the first platform, UAV detection and electronic countermeasures are located, on the second - a laser emitter.
    According to Chinese media, during the tests, the UAV-intruder was detected within 10 seconds. at a distance of about 1 km and struck by a laser beam. Judging by the photographs, during the tests of the complex, the possibility of hitting small UAVs with a laser beam that burns through the fuselage and destroys various key components of the unmanned aerial vehicle was demonstrated.
    There is an antidote for every poison.
    1. +4
      21 January 2018 00: 48
      Such mobile lasers are likely to be deployed at airfields and military bases. But carrying them along with tanks is difficult. They themselves are vulnerable.
      1. +2
        21 January 2018 01: 06
        To accompany tank units, all this can be done on the basis of the tank.
        1. 0
          21 January 2018 17: 46
          Actually, we had a "laser tank" in our plans.
          But the laser was not going to replace the gun, horse, but a machine gun
          on the tower. Fire on unarmored targets.
          In principle, a small submarine is quite suitable as such a target.
      2. 0
        21 January 2018 14: 59
        everything has a price.
        but did the Jews save Schaub on their army?
    2. +4
      21 January 2018 12: 50
      Here the "speed of destruction" is important. Remember the massive raid on Khmeimim negative more than 10 objects, and with an airplane scheme they are very fast, that is, out of 10 you can catch only 2-5, and the rest will fly sad . Again, the radius and "atmosphere transparency" are important, I understand that as in the photo, etc. easy to shoot down. And in our northern and "foggy" regions, and what if in the autumn with drizzling rains? negative
      And if the drone "with an envelope of terrain" and appears suddenly and with little time for reaction? For a single purpose, this is not a problem, but there has already been a massive raid and how then?
      Okay, this is all garbage, which is a much more dangerous moment - the “jurisdiction” of the launched UAV !! That is, if the mattress UAV may have a “US ownness” marker, then for an attack of “indirect force” with such “artisanal” carriers, but with professional and proprietary information, what to do? What to “wipe”, but it’s not an option, because it allows you to destroy important nodal defense objects during X and only after a success carry out an attack. am
      Remember how the USA screeched when the Chinese caught their BPPA, which checked the waters of China? Indeed, on the one hand, the United States did not risk anything, on the other, they invaded foreign territory. Merikases send their strategic UAV along our Crimea, can we consider its actions "aggressive" and bring down to hell? good Why not actually? After all, it seems that so far the "jurisdiction" of only ships and aircraft is legally stipulated. That is, ANY UAV at the moment is outlawed, like pirates and they can be destroyed. Yes, then Merikasy will be rude, but legally we are Right. tongue
      By the way, this will be a good reason or “kick” which “motivates” the United States to sign a legally binding agreement. good
      1. 0
        21 January 2018 15: 05
        I wrote a year ago-- "with the development, saturation with missiles and UAVs, the rear is lost, everywhere is advanced, militia is needed everywhere, repair of the destroyed and control of the territory" CHANGE THE CONCEPT OF FLIGHT TIME AND "DISTANCE TO MY NATIVE HOUSE" - BY HOW INTERNATIONAL LAW IF THE HOUSE DO NOT EXPLODE ANYBODY WHO AT ANY TIME
        as soon as 1 or 113 cases - so an international conference and the definition of "how will we live?"
        not the Russian Federation and the United States are likely to become a little excited, but China- India, etc.
  8. +1
    21 January 2018 00: 46
    But isn’t it easier to immediately use kamikaze drones than bother first with a mark of the target, and then destruction by homing ammunition?
    1. +2
      21 January 2018 01: 50
      Both of them will find work. The advanced units of the infantrymen will "spray" these chicks into the battle formations of the enemy, and they will be covered from the depths, all who see the mark are artillery, bombers, or the very same kamikaze drones. mass character can greatly facilitate reconnaissance and target designation.
    2. +1
      21 January 2018 06: 33
      Quote: Corporal
      But isn’t it easier to immediately use kamikaze drones than bother first with a mark of the target, and then destruction by homing ammunition?

      Kamikaze drones? Play catch-up? And if the enemy drone is faster and faster? wink
      Some NATO countries (as well as China, for example ...) have already developed 60-mm and 40-mm missiles ...
    3. +3
      21 January 2018 09: 51
      Such drin-kamikaze will not be miniature anymore, but here the whole point is to reduce weight and dimensions
    4. +1
      21 January 2018 12: 52
      There are slightly different things, the “flea” shown can be dozens in “every trench”. A "shock UAV" is a large object that is already under the gun of both electronic warfare and air defense. Actually, the “shock UAV” is the ATGM. lol
  9. +2
    21 January 2018 06: 16
    The idea is interesting, but the question immediately arises. And what will this lighthouse be?
    Radio? Due to its small size and power is small. It is muffled without problems.
    Laser? The beam is narrow. Or precisely in the direction of the attacker to shine (guidance system on each beacon). Any illumination to arrange on the floor of the sky.
    But as a beacon (radiation source) is located directly on the attacked object, it is easier to detect it. Well, they’ll put a large analogue of a fly swatter instead of a machine gun on the tank. "Rang" on the armor. Slops. "And the mustache was gone."
    1. +4
      21 January 2018 09: 48
      Quote: Monar
      the question immediately arises. And what will this lighthouse be?


      1.
      Quote: Monar
      Laser? The beam is narrow. Or precisely in the direction of the attacker to shine (guidance system on each beacon). Any illumination to arrange on the floor of the sky.

      That you "claim" present .......... to the directors of the films: "Special Forces" or "Landing"! It’s somewhere there DRG fighters “laser beacons” scattered! And so ... I think that something can be figured out. For example: there are Chinese laser pointers (the dimensions are small, they’ll hit at 10 km or more ...), we put the diffuser on a miniature piezoelectric motor .. the laser beam scans "the upper hemisphere at an arbitrary angle to the horizon ...
      2.
      Quote: Monar
      Radio? Due to its small size and power is small. It is muffled without problems.

      The beacon is activated not long before the attack of the target (object), the frequency is not known to the enemy, the digital signal is encrypted. Action plan: the bomb (OTR warhead) from the ANN is "thrown" into the target area. 1. In the area of ​​the target, a radio interrogator is activated on an aerial bomb (warhead). 2. The radio beacon, having received the radio signal of the interrogator, turns on; 3. The ammunition is aimed at the "beacon" ... This is a simplified diagram, without "nuances." With laser beacons, the “story” may be similar ...
      1. 0
        21 January 2018 10: 36
        A. If the beacon does not turn on, dear ammunition down the drain?
        1. +2
          21 January 2018 13: 34
          Quote: sd68
          A. If the beacon does not turn on, dear ammunition down the drain?

          And this is a "nuance"! laughing wink
          Well ...... ex-a-e-e-e. ! 1. Alas, but almost always there is a "percentage" of faults: ammunition, machine guns, artillery shells, guns, missiles, planes, tanks .... And, of course, sometimes you have to put up with it if the notorious "percentage" does not go beyond margin of error.
          2. Attacking ammunition can be equipped with a "spare" guidance system ...
          3. A “radio beacon” can be equipped with: A) a secretive remote diagnostics system. (For example, self-diagnosis is carried out ... the results are transmitted in encrypted form with minimal power, disguising themselves as “white noise” from “harmless devices and, better,“ enemy ”) .... but this makes the system more expensive. C) The multicopter, having “placed” the beacon, immediately carries out diagnostics with saving the results on the “flash drive”, the multicopter can move away from the object and transmit the “diagnostics” via the radio channel.
        2. +1
          22 January 2018 10: 56
          A beacon can be "hooked" not one!
      2. 0
        21 January 2018 11: 43
        Well, if laser pointers hit 10 km, then seeing them on the armor is even easier. Especially if the beam is deployed. Full gas with incomplete combustion of fuel. And pass a little back. Not a single laser breaks.
        A beacon on any "phonite". And the armor has the highest signal level. Detecting is easier than bonBe or rocket. )))
        And then a fly swatter. )))
        1. +1
          21 January 2018 14: 35
          Quote: Monar
          . Full gas with incomplete combustion of fuel. And pass a little back

          As far as I know, the “aerosol” from ,, incomplete combustion of fuel ”is not a significant obstacle to the laser beam of modern target designators ...
          Quote: Monar
          Beacon on any "phonite

          But is not enough equipment placed on the tank? Which is "phonite"! A beacon can cling to in any (!) Place .. do you suggest sticking a tank around it with fly swatter? belayHow many will they need? And if the "fly swatter" surveillance device, the thermal imager slam? And the adversary "cockroaches" will launch? And the anti-cockroach slippers will cost more than the fly swatter! wink
          1. 0
            21 January 2018 19: 38
            What does "anywhere" mean? On the bottom? In practice, only the top of the hull and tower remain. And the same thermal imagers in armored casings. Go clap. )
            And the equipment of the tank is really "fonit". But not from the tip of the gun to the log. And the characteristics of this "background" are known.
            1. +1
              22 January 2018 10: 50
              Quote: Monar
              And the equipment of the tank is really "fonit". And the characteristics of this "background" are known.

              Excellent that "phonite"! fellow It’s just great that they are famous! good For example, the "headache" of security services is electronic "bookmarks": "bugs", "wiretaps" ... They, of course, are found, But they are still kept in "tone", "jimmy" ... And why? what Yes, because the radio channels of these devices are masked by spurious electromagnetic radiation ("white noise") from the equipment (including household ones) located in the building, the radio channels are digital and encrypted ... this is the problem of "notching". Thus, "beacons" can be arranged ... yes, they, in fact, are arranged, some models designed to track cars.
    2. +2
      21 January 2018 12: 58
      Write nonsense. How will you jam the radio if for example there are beacons for example 10-20 frequencies preset on the “box” and even more so if the signal is not constant but discrete? It’s either putting a very powerful jammer in position - which will make problems for you, and on the other hand it’s very easy to fly the first projectile at such a “loud” muffler good
      The article is correctly written - in addition to high-tonnage shells, there are quite accurate ones and with an increase in the flight range of missiles and shells (google like a long "tornado") it will be possible even for a "simple infantryman" to fight any "suddenly" appearing enemy armored vehicles.
      1. 0
        21 January 2018 19: 31
        And jam over the entire range. Moreover, the mosh here is not necessary. The bug is here it is. On you. ))) Yes, and its power is scanty. )))
        And the problem that the jammer is hostile will notice ... So the bug is already on the tank. He had already discovered it.
        1. 0
          23 January 2018 23: 29
          In order for such a UAV to land on a tank, this tank must first be discovered.
  10. +2
    21 January 2018 07: 15
    This idea is familiar to me, he himself proposed it .. for the "snap" DRG! By the way, in an earlier version this idea “looked” like this: a “beacon” in a ,, grenade ,, fired from a grenade launcher like “Armbrust” or in a correctable (!) Mine, fired from a mortar like “Gall”, or another type silent mortar (with "choke" and "mine" in the pan ... for example, "caliber": 65 / 60-mm)
  11. 0
    21 January 2018 10: 26
    8)))))))))))))
    Like any other too complex system will not work.
    What they won’t come up with when super-duper shells with LPS guidance do not justify themselves despite a lot of money invested in them. The classic case from the joke "... well, you are a mug, around the corner the same tie is 10 times more expensive ..."
  12. 0
    21 January 2018 14: 56
    Who has small radio-controlled helicopters? You, I think, will not deny that their main minus is the time of work.
    I have the usual palm-sized Giro, a little larger. I took off all that was superfluous for the flight time. As a result, a maximum of 15 minutes of continuous flight. Further: if you do not charge it once every 2 months, the battery runs out.
    Third: I went out with such a flea into the yard - with a light wind it blows it off course, I have to constantly adjust it, and this is the consumption of scarce energy!
    What do we have in the end ?:
    A mini UAV that has been in the “delivery vehicle” for some time and the batteries are half dead (the idea of ​​keeping all UAVs “on the wire” can be discarded - there will be more wires in the “carrier” than the UAV.
    At the same time, to bear the smallest payload weight (laser and / or radar) - a significant reduction in radius of action!
    Next: the weather! The slightest breeze - extra battery consumption. And rain, trees, mosquitoes "on the oncoming" in the end!
    The following: electronic warfare against such mosquitoes - can be assembled on the knee (not to mention army capabilities).
    Last: any such "armada" is easily handled by anyone .... a hunter with a fraction of 3 and below!
    In the end: in my opinion, all these "swarms" of mini UAVs are rare ravings!
    PS: I also forgot about the network - there is nowhere cheaper from such "swarms" ...
  13. 0
    21 January 2018 15: 32
    It seems that there is already a device. Veil if not mistaken. Blocks any radio signals at short range. Laser is harder. We'll have to jam the receiver on the ammunition.
  14. 0
    22 January 2018 09: 49
    UAVs, UAVs, guidance shells - cluster bombs are incredibly accurate, they will inevitably fall to the ground.
    1. +2
      22 January 2018 09: 55
      the vigorous bomb is much more accurate - it always falls into the epicenter
  15. 0
    23 January 2018 23: 27
    What prevents to pour thousands of beacons on the battlefield just in bulk on the ground, to interfere?
    It’s better to just highlight the target with a laser.
  16. 0
    23 January 2018 23: 40
    And by the way, the operator of such a UAV will not be scared?
    The range is a maximum of 5 km. While the drone flies he himself will be discovered.
  17. 0
    17 February 2018 09: 20
    I’m embarrassed to ask: How many tanks are armed with a reinforced motorized infantry platoon?