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Konstantin Semin: Tragedy in Perm - a diagnosis of our society

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Konstantin Semin: Tragedy in Perm - a diagnosis of our society



The situation with the massacre in the Perm school reminds me of a moment when a person who hasn’t looked in the mirror for a long time suddenly finds himself in front of a mirror and realizes how terrible he is, how much he has launched himself. And when our entire society is sometimes put face to face with such a mirror, a flash occurs, and it suddenly realizes what is happening to it. Not only our society is experiencing such moments. No wonder today, many remembered "Bowling for Columbine." The United States is a classic capitalist society. We all the time put it as an example, but it is experiencing such moments of illumination on 300 times a year. There, schools do not use knives in schools - mainly firearms. weapons, but, nevertheless, such situations occur constantly - not periodically, but constantly. They are calculated in tens and hundreds. And every time public opinion shudders, every time there is a reason for publicists to dip feathers in ink and write another article about how everything is triggered, how terrible everything is. But in general, the situation does not change. This is a diagnosis of society. This is not talking about the state of a particular person who has lost his temper. Something catastrophic can happen to everyone, everyone can lose their mind, probably - however, I am not an expert in forensic medicine and psychiatry. But when it happens in schools exactly as it is today in Perm or regularly in the United States, it does not speak about any particular problems, not about a separate stories individual person - it says about the problems of the system, that hurts the whole society.

The problem is that we will survive this incident and forget about it tomorrow. He will remain in the chronicles, in the reports of the investigating authorities, and we will wait for the next one. And my great sadness is that it is unclear how much this should happen, so that some critical mark can be reached, so that each of us finally realizes that it is impossible to live like this, it cannot go on like this.

We have similar stories (not by the plot of what happened, but by its enormity) also occur regularly. Recall the children who drowned on Syamozero, and the recent skirmish at a school near Moscow, and the killing of a Krasnoyarsk schoolgirl by her classmates, and the dead workers at a construction site in the Krasnodar Territory. Each story is special, but each story talks about one thing: we have moved to a completely bestial development platform. Although the “development” of what is happening to us today cannot be called.

And, nevertheless, each time having been horrified, each time having thrown up our hands, each time having plunged into gloomy thoughts, we continue to live as if nothing has happened, because nothing changes and nothing changes. That's what I think, watching how the passions boil again, accusations are spreading in all directions, the guilty are sought. Of course, a particular person is always to blame; they will probably find those responsible here too. And if it is not Lev B. alone, then surely the one who raised him, who supervised, who did not write in time, who did not report in time, did not prevent in time. But in any case, across the country, every guilty one will be a switchman. And it is to blame for what is happening the way it is going, how even 30 years ago we could not have imagined - the system of our economic and social relations. I say this every time and I will not stop talking.

I remember the words of Ulyanov in the film “Chairman”: “They have become corrupted in poverty and idleness”. Because, of course, a young man, busy as we were busy in our childhood - in our circles and, most importantly, in our dreams of a decent life - is unlikely to be an accomplice in a group on the social network that is dedicated to mass murder. This raises the question. If we have already remembered our Motherland - the USSR, it is clear that asocial, deviant types have always been and will be, this is inevitable, this is biology. But what do we read about these boys: there is both drug addiction and registration in a psycho-neurological dispensary, and dismissal from school. At the same time, I really "like" the information: "Lev B.'s family is prosperous" - however, he ran away from home more than once. Thus, we know that young people from the risk group were to be watched by “prosperous families”, psychiatrists were supposed to be watched at a mental hospital, they were supposed to look after a drug addiction line. There was nothing of this. Our guardianship and guardianship agencies are engaged in a completely different: apparently, they perceive children as a commodity, selling to foreigners. So what is the difference in the system of supervision of problem children in the USSR today?

It seems to me that the system of supervision, the system of education and all other systems today operate synchronously and look the same. No matter what the conversation is about, they are all put on the market rails. Attitudes of people towards people do not differ from institution to institution. Everyone thinks exclusively about their own skin. And there is nothing to expect that there will be some new Makarenko, which will pull out hopeless teenagers and treat them with creative work and high culture. In the Soviet Union, this method worked, as we know, from the times of Dzerzhinsky through Makarenko and up to the very last days of the existence of the Soviet Union. Soviet pedagogy, the Soviet educational school, even the Soviet correctional labor school worked, they brought back many people to life. Yes, of course, there were always renegades, we always remember some Chikatilo. But we have to compare today's statistics with what was then. And we all understand that today we are drowning in social problems, we are surrounded by social ulcers. Compared to what we see today, there was no drug addiction in the Soviet Union — there was none at all. They say that she is invincible - but she was defeated in the Soviet Union, it actually did not exist. Yes, somewhere it was possible to dig up something, but in principle for any ordinary person who lived in any Soviet city, there was no drug addiction. There was no prostitution. It existed somewhere there, under some kind of baseboards it could be picked out and find out what happens in Intourist. But across the country there was no prostitution. Again, they say that prostitution cannot be defeated - it turns out that it is possible. It turns out that it depends on how the state and society are organized. And the same goes for all other problems and social pathologies. The pathology that is now demonstrated to us in the face once again is the pathology of society as a whole.

We love the brave and selfless people who are in the service of the state, who at the right time will close the people from the terrorist, who at the right time rush to help, save and so on. But such initiative and selfless people are not enough to cover them with all the ulcers resulting from the development of capitalist relations. And always those who think about their own skin will be more, because this is the basis. What is the basis, such is the superstructure.

What we see in schools, on TV, in cinemas, and in VKontakte groups, and the insane currents of recent years associated with children's suicides - all this is a projection of our socio-economic relations. Once we have decided to live in a zoo or in the jungle, we will eat each other, and such completely crazy stories will happen. Until we realize that it’s not a specific deviation, not a specific deviation. We like to repeat often - this is a favorite liberal song - that every person is responsible for himself. That if a person is a criminal or a prostitute, it is because he himself decided so. The man went crazy, went and stabbed - you have to figure out who made it. No, that's not the point. Everyone, of course, is responsible for himself, but in general we are doing what we are ordered to do by a system of economic relations. Unfortunately, this idea very often eludes those who discuss our current problems. It is always easier to shift the responsibility for what is happening to a specific person, because a particular person was convicted, forgotten, and seemed to solve the problem. Nothing decided!

You look at almost every family today, at every single person. Every biography in us is a pathology. Show me a happy family today, show me a happy person, show me a person who is completely mentally healthy? We still have an avalanche-like increase in mental illness with 90. We all know this, we all understand it. And I think that even when we meet with our quite adequate and healthy friends, we ourselves note that we are not completely and completely healthy. Alas, what we are discussing now is a disease that has afflicted the whole society, has infiltrated it, has metastasized into all its organs.

We have become accustomed in the past few years to all our difficulties and troubles (at least of a systemic nature, because the whole country shuddered at what happened now) to blame someone who infected us with this - the CIA, some kind of hairy hand . But it is impossible to organize what happened in Perm. This is not what the CIA did — we ourselves became such. And in this mirror you need to look very carefully and honestly tell yourself that this is part of our current look. And this image needs to be changed, it is impossible to leave it that way, otherwise we will all degenerate sooner or later and will not even realize that this is happening. I would only add about the CIA, that if there is the CIA’s fault here, then this wine has been drawn since the Soviet times, when they bribed our top officials and leaders and forced us to change our system.

The problems we are discussing were most actively analyzed in Soviet art. In the literature, but especially in the movies. Recall the films of Vadim Abdrashitov, Valery Priemyhova, Kira Muratova, Rolan Bykov about difficult teenagers - how many of these films were there! Children - including me, and you - went to the cinema and watched these films. We saw ourselves as if in a mirror, were sometimes horrified, were afraid of the ways to the terrible that were demonstrated there, and were grateful for the ways of recovery that were also revealed there. And thus, the child went out to life prepared for such situations, and his life line became straight. Today we can even talk about sabotage, because what is in the field of cinema, as if sharpened by the fact that Leo B. was born and exclusively Leo B.

We here proclaimed in all the logic of market relations, right? That is, if we joined the WTO, then we joined not only the Cherepovets Steel Mill or Severstal - we also joined the market for our cultural products. It’s all a commodity, it’s all sold and bought, everything - starting from rental certificates, ending with tickets to the Bolshoi Theater. This is all a market. And since we joined a more powerful economic agent, this agent filled us in two minutes with everything he produces. Accordingly, computer games have arrived, where the giblets stick out from every corner. Does someone regulate it? I do not mean that it is necessary to prohibit computer games or the Internet. But the Soviet Union produced its own culture, because it is produced as in a factory. If you do not have such a production, you will be a consumer of foreign culture. And if the alien culture is bestial, then you too will be a beast. If it is explained to your children during 10 or 15 years that it is normal to come with a hatchet to pieces of a person, then sooner or later, out of several million people one will appear who will do it - necessarily. If he sees this in the movie - he will repeat. Because man is a creature that needs a role model. Man still behaves like a monkey - not only on our continent, on any. And if you give him a monkey standards of behavior, he will be a monkey, he will definitely repeat its properties. If you eat him like a monkey, he will sing along like a monkey. If you write books in monkey language, he will read it and produce it, calling himself a great writer or poet. All our popular culture has become a monkey. We neglect to pronounce these two words - mass culture, but it is different and can not be. Culture for the masses can not be mass. And since we do not own our culture now, we have practically nothing left of ours with a few, rare exceptions, and all that is, that is, is a pathetic copy and an attempt to portray what has already been done by someone - then here you are , the result.

And you know what I come to, arguing so? No one wants to rock anything, no one wants to see shocks. We are waiting in Stolypin for 150 years, so that everything can be adjusted by evolution. But what is the price of waiting? How long will those who wait grow old? And they will be replaced by one, another, the third generation, brought up by VKontakte groups about murders, brought up by films that do not experience any competition from high standards of national culture, because there are no such high samples. Thus, there is a degeneration of social and social fabric, the degeneration of society. And after a while this society in the mirror does not recognize itself. Even now it does not recognize itself. In 10-15 years, you can turn out to be a completely different nation, a completely different country, which, in fact, will not bind anything - no nerves, no tendons - with the high cultural and human patterns that the Soviet era left us.

And no matter how much our narrow-minded liberals turned up their noses and did not say that “you are dragging us into the past, this has already happened” - nothing has happened. Simply, there are several ways of development of society, scientifically known to mankind. And the fact that today they are trying to present us as a non-alternative given, as if nothing else can be, because, they say, the scoop is outdated and collapsed, and returning to it means going back to the past - this is what we are now returning to the past. Our present is the past before 1817. We fall into feudalism and deeper, sometimes into a slave system. This is what should be remembered by those who are trying to accuse us of excessive nostalgia and inappropriate references to times past.

When we were doing the third episode of the film “Last Bell”, we quoted Isaac Frumin, a well-known teacher in the broad, even not only in narrow circles, teacher of the Higher School of Economics. In the article 1992 of the year, it was called “Cooks children”, he talks about deviant, socially disadvantaged children who came to his experimental Krasnoyarsk school. And there he is tormented by the choice: a girl from the family of alcoholics, who has only abusive words in her tongue and who is always dirty and loosely worn or thrown out with all the good children? Froumin ends his monological argument with an interesting conclusion: “if we remove the disadvantaged from the class, then at some point these children will be waiting for us at the doorways with knives. If we do not want this to happen, so that our prosperous, licked, clean, bright, smartest children see these children with knives in the hallways, we must find some mechanisms of social adaptation. ” But in reality in these words, of course, there is a great cunning. Nobody will adapt anyone anywhere in the system built by the Frumins. The girl he described is doomed to go where they have identified since the days of Crime and Punishment and other classic works of Russian literature. And so the meeting of children from their "bright world" with the "dirty" is inevitable. Nothing can exclude this meeting. Sooner or later, what the Frumins raised in society will meet them at the entrance with a knife.
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  1. tasha
    tasha 18 January 2018 06: 08
    +5
    I can not agree with the last paragraph. In vain is he talking about Isak Frumin.
    Here is a great quote:
    “We must understand:“ the quality of education ”and“ educational conditions ”are not the same thing,” says Isak Frumin. “Why should an elite school differ in that it has a swimming pool, but not in a regular school? Situation, when some children study in palaces, while others in huts, it is completely unacceptable for a civilized country, but you have to understand that there are especially gifted children who need really special conditions, special programs and specially trained teachers to study, and the state should pay for this. Nobody minds about This is due to the fact that the teacher at the conservatory’s music school individually deals with each student, but now we’re talking about a different, general approach to the problem. If parents want their children in a secondary school to receive more services, so that they have more subjects in comparison with the regular program, so that there are five students in the class - well, let them pay for it. Private Elite Schools. "

    In countries that spend 5 percent of GDP on education (we have, as you know, 3 percent, and not GDP, but the state budget), it has long been understood that the state should support not elite schools, but those that work in difficult socio-economic conditions, they teach difficult children and show good results. These are the best schools. Experts call them resilient. But in our Ministry of Education they didn’t even hear such a word, which the Education Minister Olga Vasilyeva openly admitted.


    Isak Davidovich writes that it is necessary to look for children who are more than talented and smart, and for them to create conditions at the expense of the state .. Remember the PhysTech School, for example ...
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 18 January 2018 07: 00
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      The tragedy in Perm is a mirror of our life where no one wants to look. We say, and so "we live well, we do not need to change anything." There is no need to restore the Soviet, by the way the best school in the world, Soviet education programs and humanism. And by and large it is not necessary to restore a socially just society and the state - socialism.
      This is the trouble, the majority are satisfied with the existing predatory oligarchic system, led by the oligarchic clan of the current rulers.
      Any calls to legally, selectively change the system through a change of current leaders, V. Putin, are met with a mass protest of duped or paid people. "We are satisfied, We do not need Maidan."
      So, get and sign, unfortunately, in the next and not the last massive bloody terror.
      1. tasha
        tasha 18 January 2018 07: 13
        +4
        And by and large it is not necessary to restore a socially just society and the state - socialism.

        I can only agree with you on one thing - the so-called socially fair society and the socialist state that I can judge about - there is no need to restore it exactly ...
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 18 January 2018 07: 52
          +9
          I can agree with you only in one thing - the so-called socially just society and the socialist state I can judge about - there is no need to restore it for sure ... - Tasha

          And I can not agree with you. What I wrote above, which you cited, is my sarcasm in relation to those who affirm this.
          The trouble is when the majority are satisfied with the existing predatory oligarchic system led by the oligarchic clan of the current rulers.
          It is necessary to restore a socially just society and state. Now given, at least a small, but a chance to return to the last election of the President of Russia, the Communist Party candidate and the Left Front - Pavel Grudinin.
          1. tasha
            tasha 18 January 2018 08: 04
            10
            It is necessary to restore a socially just society and state.

            We do not need to restore anything. We need to move forward, not forgetting the mistakes and achievements of the past. The USSR that I remember - I do not need exactly.

            Communist Party candidate and Left Front-Pavel Grudinin.

            Communist Party candidate and the Left Front - businessman, owner of a large ZAO and owner of land in the suburbs of Pavel Grudinin ...

            Just like in the movie:
            - Jack Sparrow ...
            - CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow wink
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 18 January 2018 09: 24
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              Quote: tasha
              Communist Party candidate and the Left Front - businessman, owner of a large ZAO and owner of land in the suburbs of Pavel Grudinin ...

              Judging by business fellow
              1. tasha
                tasha 18 January 2018 09: 48
                +6
                Babac ... Well, you give ...
                Firstly, on the left - the signature is already false, actually. The owner of CJSC "...", a successful businessman and owner of land ... Right - "Legally elected president of the Russian Federation." Has cheating already begun?
                Secondly...
                I have a friend. The owner of the factory. Money - chickens do not peck (not like Grudinin’s, but anyway ..) .. Workers roll like butter and cheese .. So what? He does not need to be president ...
                Trump is a successful businessman. Poroshenko is a successful businessman. Are they good presidents?
                Thirdly..
                At the enterprise and in Russia. Do you understand the difference in the scale of tasks? Transfer the experience of the enterprise to the country? Ready to risk the country?
                Well, and more in the topic
                Right - Crimea. Left - a strawberry hangar built wink

                It's good to be kind when there is a lot of money wink
                1. Stirbjorn
                  Stirbjorn 18 January 2018 10: 25
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                  Quote: tasha
                  Firstly, on the left - the signature is already false, actually. The owner of CJSC "...", a successful businessman and owner of land ... Right - "Legally elected president of the Russian Federation." Has cheating already begun?

                  The owner of a 42% stake in the company, in fact, well, and the director of the position - where is the lie and deception in your opinion?
                  Quote: tasha
                  I have a friend. The owner of the factory. Money - chickens do not peck (not like Grudinin’s, but anyway ..) .. Workers roll like butter and cheese .. So what? He does not need to be president ...

                  You might think someone makes him
                  Quote: tasha
                  Trump is a successful businessman. Poroshenko is a successful businessman. Are they good presidents?

                  The businessman and the businessman are different, they are not raised in incubators. People have different social responsibilities. Lukashenko, a quite successful president, and there is more noise on Trump - he loaded his defense with external contracts, not even a hundred billion.
                  Quote: tasha
                  At the enterprise and in Russia. Do you understand the difference in the scale of tasks? Transfer the experience of the enterprise to the country? Ready to risk the country?

                  The country is already falling into the abyss under the current authorities - production is falling, prices are rising, money is being withdrawn to the offshore in billions, they are planning to raise their retirement age, taxes, etc., and Putin is satisfied with the work of the government.
                  Quote: tasha
                  Right - Crimea. Left - a strawberry hangar built
                  So what now, then you can live the rest of your life for yourself ?! If it’s built on the right, it’s the Yeltsin Center, and on the left the first in Russia, a robotic dairy farm, the best school in Europe, a kindergarten in the form of a castle
                  1. tasha
                    tasha 18 January 2018 10: 44
                    +2
                    The owner of 42% of the shares of the company, in fact, well, and the director of the position

                    This "Well, and the Director of the post" is a great deception. A good start ... Especially the "State farm named after Lenin." As a sundae "Soviet" - an advertising move. Successful...
                    You might think someone makes him

                    Not understood...
                    production falls, prices rise

                    Does businessman Grudinin also drop production?
                    The businessman and the businessman are different, they are not raised in incubators.

                    Want to take a chance? We put on red? Elections are not roulette, the country is not a bet ... How will businessman Grudinin behave when faced with problems not of the level of strawberry beds, but completely different?

                    I am there in the comments to the article "Echidna comments .." I propose to do forecasts .. Let's go there if you want wink
                2. Alex_59
                  Alex_59 18 January 2018 11: 25
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                  Quote: tasha
                  Right - Crimea.

                  Crimea is not on the right. Crimea in the center. Our Crimea is only thanks to the Crimeans themselves. If it weren’t for oil, it would have been, not Crimea. Putin only took what was in his hands. Thanks, of course, for not pushing away, but for accepting. But initially no one did any purposeful work on preparing people and the situation for the return of Crimea - there was no care for everyone.
                3. basmach
                  basmach 18 January 2018 12: 03
                  +9
                  And let's remember what Putin started with. Or is he the president om born. To no one in wide circles an unknown official becomes the prime minister and without having worked for three years as president.
                4. lukewarm
                  lukewarm 18 January 2018 17: 32
                  +7
                  Quote: tasha
                  Right - Crimea

                  Nobody argues. But this is from the category of "winners are not judged." If the Crimea did not happen, it would have to be invented, because before and after the continuous .... there is no word. Health care and education are ruined - I see it myself, editorials are not necessary. Housing and communal services - is prohibitive and everything is in ruins. You can buy cheese from palm oil for a salary. There is no money in the country, you hold on, but a couple of times a day jagged managers call a mobile phone and get loans. And this is all that Garant satisfies - the government is working fine, there is growth, import substitution rushing (though there are corvettes without German engines, but figs with it).
              2. To be or not to be
                To be or not to be 18 January 2018 11: 38
                +3
                Judged by cases, and not by promises ... I don’t like Turkish strawberries.
                Now a question?
                1. Here is the composition of the Communist Party "On January 1, 2013, 81 regional organizations, 2278 local and 13726 primary branches functioned in the structure of the Communist Party. In the past four years, there has been a steady increase in the total number of party ranks. Today the number of parties exceeds 157 thousand people"
                Taken from here http://kprf-saratov.ru/o-partii-kprf/
                Why wasn’t a worthy candidate for president of the Russian Federation?
                2. What does the link between communists and business (capitalists) mean? Tenitolka? Where ..? On the collapse of the Russian Federation?
                3. What kind of circus is arranged with presidential candidates
                -the driver of Zhirinovsky was in the last election from the Liberal Democratic Party. Vladimir Volfovich then knew how to sit on these pushed him -work dafFay work out .. with his eternal 4-5% ???
                - then the First himself came from the Communist Party ... Zyuganov ..but. as always. Now. in general, a feint with the ears .. On the side .. the sleeping and cherished woke up .. such an untouchable on the golden lands of the Moscow region Yes, and the union with other pseudo-left.? However..
                - Ksyusha from House -2 was turned into a presidential candidate ...
                Are miracles happening ??
                1. lukewarm
                  lukewarm 19 January 2018 09: 51
                  +1
                  Quote: To be or not to be
                  2. What does the link between communists and business (capitalists) mean? Tenitolka? Where ..? On the collapse of the Russian Federation?

                  In the first part. Grudinin was never a communist and never spoke about it. The bow is the right word, the left-patriotic opposition manages to unite. Boldyrev spoke about this for a long time. The Communist Party has long been communist only in name, so what prevents them from uniting? Let it go. What about the collapse of the Russian Federation? Honestly I do not know. Actually, the opposition from the other flank is working for the collapse. And the ruling elite has one win-win argument: "Do not touch us, otherwise everything will fall apart" Duck guys! Who brought something ?! You have finished it. Move over.
              3. leonid-zherebtcov
                leonid-zherebtcov 18 January 2018 15: 03
                +2
                This poster is a cheap and deceitful DIGITAL FORCE in the diaper ...
              4. Soho
                Soho 19 January 2018 05: 29
                +1
                Stirbjorn Yesterday, 09:24 PM ↑
                Quote: tasha
                Communist Party candidate and the Left Front - businessman, owner of a large ZAO and owner of land in the suburbs of Pavel Grudinin ...
                You have to judge by cases fellow

                you are a fool, a man. And your advertising piccha is designed only for a simpleton and fools. By analogy, I can pile the same one in which your sternum will look no less monstrous than Putin fool
                ps it is not clear why the admins did not kick you with the VO for political agitation.
                1. Stirbjorn
                  Stirbjorn 19 January 2018 09: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: Soho
                  ps it is not clear why the admins did not kick you with the VO for political agitation.

                  You would before the rules of VO, read before writing on the forum, but to appeal to the admins - or according to your rules they write for fools, but they are useless to smart people ?! - there is no such violation "for political agitation", but for rudeness, for example, there is fellow
          2. user
            user 19 January 2018 09: 54
            +2
            We love the brave and dedicated people who are in the service of the state,


            In order for people of this type to appear, they need to be educated (I don’t specifically say what) they need to be dealt with. Here in the USSR there were October people, pioneers, Komsomol members, and during the training everything was covered. Therefore, we have a community - the Soviet people (previously this name was often mentioned). And in the state, nothing like this could ever happen. But if you do not deal with the younger generation, then in addition to such incidents there are good boys with good parents and good reports in the Bundestag.

            And I would like to be mistaken, but this is only the beginning.
          3. Sterkh
            Sterkh 21 January 2018 19: 28
            0
            Unfortunately, Grudinin is a setup. This is Gapon. We need a different leader. I am sure he is, but apparently his time has not yet come to go into the light. Who knew in broad circles of Ulyanov-Lenin? Until the 17th year, few people knew about him.
            1. vladimirZ
              vladimirZ 22 January 2018 05: 33
              +2
              Unfortunately, Grudinin is a setup. - Sterkh

              Unfortunately, Sterkh, you do not understand politics or deliberately put a "shadow on the fence."
              The substitute is Navalny, Sobchak, and others, nominated as candidates for the President, calling people to unauthorized rallies or other illegal events, without a proper situation.
              And Pavel Grudinin is a legitimately nominated presidential candidate, from the real Left united opposition, to the current comprador oligarchic regime.
              Moreover, P. Grudinin differs from all the others in his main feature - he, unlike all others, from V. Putin to the same worthless Sobchak, has the IDEOLOGY OF SOCIALIST SOCIETY AND THE STATE with which all the people can win the election.
              Not Pavel Grudinin will win, - all the people of Russia can win the election with him, finding the way to the revival of a socially just state.
              And if Putin wins, the people will lose, because the comprador oligarchic class will again prevail, leading Russia into further predatory capitalism, which will inevitably put our country on the brink of collapse like the USSR, with inevitable grief for all the peoples living in Russia.
            2. V. Salama
              V. Salama 27 January 2018 22: 35
              0
              Quote: Sterkh
              Unfortunately....

              No, not a troll, for sure. "Shadows on the fence," yes. Well, not because I don’t understand politics only ... I will not make a diagnosis in absentia, I will wait until it appears. A normal guy, like a hero from a heroic family, leads the team, but I don’t understand the motivation. I'd love to test my assumptions, how much I can understand people ...
      2. A.Kaledin
        A.Kaledin 18 January 2018 10: 17
        0
        And you see the problem only in the system !? But in the Soviet system, wasn’t it like that?
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        2. dSK
          dSK 18 January 2018 12: 27
          +3

          Congratulations to the Orthodox participants in the Baptism of the Lord!
        3. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 22 January 2018 17: 43
          0
          And you see the problem only in the system !? But in the Soviet system, wasn’t it like that? - A.Kaledin

          Yes, only in the socio-political system. In a socially just society and state, under socialism, everything was aimed at the development of man and his improvement. Such a goal is declared there, backed up by a whole system of measures and measures for educating a person, and especially children and youth.
          I think it’s not worth reminding about children's mass organizations, beginning in October, pioneer and Komsomol organizations, which constantly and systematically dealt with children, upbringing, education, leisure, teaching them to self-organize.
          And it bore fruit, there was no mass child crime, absent as a phenomenon among them homelessness, drug use, drunkenness.
          Now what? They dumped everything on the teachers, on their mainly female authority, they are preparing "consumers" who know only their rights, mythical "freedom" unlimited by anyone, but do not understand their responsibilities to school, teachers, society, and the state. Yes, what can I say even in front of my parents.
          And this gives its results in the massive increase in child crime, so much so that it was necessary to introduce special juvenile justice in Russia. Massive negative outbursts in offenses, drug addiction, homelessness, drunkenness, and a lack of understanding of their place in society overwhelmed schoolchildren and youth.
          You don't know that? You can’t estimate the scale of what happened and WHAT has become?
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 18 January 2018 21: 00
        +2
        Quote: vladimirZ
        So, get and sign, unfortunately, in the next and not the last massive bloody terror.

        In the USSR there were also terrorist attacks and killings, and also at school.
        example-
        April 1950, 4 - terrorist attack in the village of Giska (vicinity of G. Bender, Moldavian SSR): a military teacher brought to the school packages with 12 kg of tol and blew it up during classes in one of the classes. The cause of the explosion was an unrequited love for one of his colleagues. The building was destroyed, 23 people died (including military commissar), many were injured. Graduation of the entire school that year totaled only 5 students. The tragedy was classified, it was forbidden to mention it. In 2007, a memorial monument was opened in the village
        1. onix757
          onix757 18 January 2018 21: 06
          +5
          In the USSR there were also terrorist attacks and killings, and also at school.

          Then it was a state-of-the-state emergency with serious organizational conclusions. Now, against the backdrop of the daily crime chronicle, it’s just "news of the day." And the president’s press secretary will either keep silent or say that he knows nothing.
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 19 January 2018 11: 25
            +2
            Quote: onix757
            And the president’s press secretary will either keep silent or say that he knows nothing.

            Central channels generally ignored this crime
      4. Petr1968
        Petr1968 19 January 2018 11: 03
        0
        Quote: vladimirZ
        Any calls to legally, selectively change the system through a change of current leaders, V. Putin, are met with a mass protest of duped or paid people. "We are satisfied, We do not need Maidan."

        86% paid .... hmm ... insanity grew stronger ..
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 20 January 2018 07: 48
          +2
          86% paid .... - Petr1968

          hmm ... insanity grew stronger .. First of all, fooled, and then already paid in their official places with a good salary, which people are afraid to lose, having their own opinion. And yet, of these 86%, more than half are attributed, as nobody will print real, objective data, fearing again for their place paid.
          We will find out the true rating when Putin leaves the government, as they learned the true rating of Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
      5. would
        would 21 January 2018 13: 05
        0
        No need to restore the Soviet, by the way the best school in the world, Soviet training programs


        Only, at least, the “best school in the world” had problems with the result, millions of its graduates invested in MMM, which is impossible at the high school math level.
    2. lukewarm
      lukewarm 18 January 2018 17: 24
      +1
      Isaac Davidovich can say whatever things are right, but he teaches at the Higher School of Economics - a nursery of systemic liberofascists and 5 columns. That is why K. Semin must have attributed it in the last paragraph to the builders of such a "bright" present. Moreover, he spoke the right words already in 1992. I could do a lot of wrong things, I don’t know what I’ve been watching, I’m only guessing. Judging by where he’s getting now
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 19 January 2018 11: 06
        0
        Quote: unwillingly
        HSE - a hotbed of systemic liberofascists and 5 columns.

        What is the problem to file an application with the FSB and the prosecutor’s office, that you have uncovered a network of fascists and traitors to the motherland ?? Do you know why you do not do this ... because you .... like this without a mat, when they grind with your tongue ... balabol, here, I found the word)))
  2. Stas157
    Stas157 18 January 2018 06: 12
    16
    . a young man busy as we were busy in our childhood - in our circles and, most importantly, in our dreams of a decent life - is unlikely to be an accomplice in a social network group dedicated to massacres

    So for this, clubs and sports sections should be available not only for wealthy families, but also for disadvantaged ones, too. The Soviet government could find money for their own children, modern Russia, unfortunately, no.
    Why, in the upcoming elections, give your vote to a man who was not enough 17 years old to help our children, and not the Kremlin oligarchs? Isn’t it better to give up your choice, really to the chosen one, the communist, Pavel Grudinin?
    1. tasha
      tasha 18 January 2018 06: 47
      +3
      people's deputy, communist, Pavel Grudinin?


      businessman, the owner of a large farm and the owner of land in the suburbs ...

      Donald Trump is a businessman. Petro Poroshenko is a businessman ... Are they good presidents?

      But in any case, the dependence of the future of the country on several dozen people in power does not cause anything but great sadness ...
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 18 January 2018 09: 28
        10
        Quote: tasha
        businessman, the owner of a large farm and the owner of land in the suburbs ...

        At the same time living in an ordinary high-rise building ... people are different of course
    2. raw174
      raw174 18 January 2018 07: 36
      +3
      good afternoon hi
      Quote: Stas157
      So for this, clubs and sports sections should be available not only for wealthy families, but also for disadvantaged ones, too.

      And they, dysfunctional, in their absolute majority, will not go to sections and circles, their interests are raised in the family ... In the villages and now sports sections are absolutely free. We have skis \ track and field athletics (one coach leads), volleyball and football, you can’t drive the dysfunctional there with a stick! Although even skiing, balls, etc. will give to classes!
      Yes, during the union there was a step-by-step education program, there were sections, but were children's colonies empty? Were there fewer child criminals? Not sure ... At that time, no one would have known about the massacre of adolescents beyond the neighborhood, well, of the town, because there were no means to transmit information ... I, in the Urals, would not have heard of the massacre ...
      There were fights at discos even then, who didn’t fight at school?
      In our village, high school students (3-5 grades) after school drove us to school and forced to fight among themselves, not with threats, of course, but with words like: “Are you not a kid?”, But we also watched all honor to honor: Do not beat lying, do not beat in the groin, do not use sticks / stones ... They all got off with broken noses and abrasions ...
      This does not negate the need for a coherent ideology for young people, but to instill it oh how hard ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 18 January 2018 07: 42
        +7
        Quote: raw174
        And they, dysfunctional, in their absolute majority, will not go to sections and circles, their interests are raised in the family ... In the villages and now sports sections are absolutely free. We have skis \ track and field athletics (one coach leads), volleyball and football, you can’t drive the dysfunctional there with a stick! Although even skiing, balls, etc. will give to classes!

        And as soon as Makarenko made them work? It’s not even skiing with a ball.
        1. raw174
          raw174 18 January 2018 07: 54
          +2
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          And as soon as Makarenko made them work? It’s not even skiing with a ball.

          Recently, in some kind of doc film about him (Makarenko) they said, yes he developed a methodology, it turned out, but this is a single way out ... apparently there aren’t such "Makarenko" now ... And will his method work nowadays? question...
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 18 January 2018 08: 07
            +2
            There will not be, because, like today's pupils of zones for minors and orphanages, no one will give good equipment for production, or there is land with tractors, and no one will put a decent salary for them. They felt themselves to be people, not a cattle juvenile. And they produced very high-tech products, at that time, on imported equipment. By the way, in Germany Makarenko’s experience was studied. As of now, I don’t know. Ours will still be able to think of introducing private prisons.
            1. raw174
              raw174 18 January 2018 09: 00
              0
              I don’t have the information, and after going to the factory, the Makarins went to work? I wonder how many of them later returned to the state house? ..
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 18 January 2018 09: 10
                +7
                Quote: raw174
                I don’t have the information, and after going to the factory, the Makarins went to work? I wonder how many of them later returned to the state house? ..

                Almost all went to Rabfaki, then to enterprises. Of course, there were incorrigible ones, not without it. But they did not sit, but worked. And not from under the stick. Colony them. Gorky became famous for her economy, them. Dzerzhinsky - produced machines no worse than American ones, and FED cameras on German equipment. "Pedagogical poem" Makarenko to help you.
          2. CONTROL
            CONTROL 18 January 2018 10: 46
            +4
            Quote: raw174
            Recently, in some kind of doc film about him (Makarenko) they said, yes he developed a methodology, it turned out, but this is a single way out ... apparently there aren’t such "Makarenko" now ... And will his method work nowadays? question...

            The commune schools by the method of Anton Makarenko exist and are successfully working in Germany, France, England, Italy, Japan, Cuba - a large network of commune schools ...
        2. sd68
          sd68 18 January 2018 10: 29
          0
          beat his face if necessary. in the literal sense of the word.
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 18 January 2018 11: 07
        +7
        Quote: raw174
        And they, dysfunctional, in their absolute majority, will not go to sections and circles, they have other interests brought up in the family ...

        But do not decide for them. There would be free sections, let's go. But when the parents have no opportunities, and the circles are paid, like this hour, then they definitely won’t go!
        Quote: raw174
        In villages and now sports sections are absolutely free.

        But he did not know. But, we must take into account the fact that the vast majority of the population in Russia is urban. And those in the village, so they have and so on household chores, concerns, more than urban ones.
      3. lukewarm
        lukewarm 18 January 2018 17: 41
        +5
        Quote: raw174
        In villages and now sports sections are absolutely free. We have skis \ track and field athletics (one coach leads), volleyball and football, you can’t drive the dysfunctional there with a stick!

        You can’t drive the dead away, but you have some kind of village ... not a village at all. Admit it, maybe you’re working at the State Farm at the “sworn Grudinin” laughing This is a joke, of course, because now from every iron about it. A typical village (15 km from the middle provincial town) runs a shuttle bus. A third of alcoholics, a little pensioners, the rest are wealthy summer residents (who no longer have a cottage and a cottage in the village) And there are no children or schools there, the land is sold for cottages. The rural school was closed 20 years ago; in its place, working men cut logs and sell them. This is needed of course, of Russia that has risen from its knees, more than schools
        1. raw174
          raw174 19 January 2018 06: 21
          +1
          Quote: unwillingly
          Admit it, maybe you work at the "sworn Grudinin" at the "State Farm

          We have our own “Grudinin”, though Kazakh, so Grudinbaev is more suitable))) He manages the state farm, grows grain and cattle, he is a dollar millionaire, his daughter in London, his son seems to be in Moscow, annually allocates about 2 million rubles . (despite the fact that the municipality allocates about 700 thousand, without s / n trainers), built with 0 FAP, gives interest-free loans to workers. A respected man in our region. There is one in every agricultural region, somewhere more greedy ...
          Quote: unwillingly
          15 km from the middle provincial town

          we have 200 km. the nearest city ... the population is about 9 thousand, in the 80s there were about 15 thousand people. (district center). 4 schools of 100-300 pupils, 8 kindergartens., 1 school for children, 1 school for children, production is only agricultural, they mine gold, not a lot, but pick it. the region is subsidized by 80%. The population is not rich, but we live, ourselves no, no, we dig a little gold with “Minilab”, a little bit ...
      4. would
        would 21 January 2018 13: 14
        0
        And they, dysfunctional, in their absolute majority, will not go to sections and circles, they have other interests brought up in the family ...


        Why not! Smart dysfunctional will go, even as. On the contact martial arts section, with absolutely clear goals.
    3. Bastinda
      Bastinda 18 January 2018 08: 23
      13
      In my opinion, there are few chances. But any new president will be better than today's hopelessness. I didn’t go to the polls for 18 years. I’ll go to these!
      1. raw174
        raw174 18 January 2018 09: 16
        +1
        Quote: Bastinda
        But any new president will be better than today's hopelessness. I didn’t go to the polls for 18 years. I’ll go to these!

        Maybe then Sapchak? If only to have time to dump in Kazakhstan, I’m not far here!)))
        1. lukewarm
          lukewarm 18 January 2018 17: 48
          0
          Quote: raw174
          If only to have time to dump in Kazakhstan, I’m not far here!)))

          You know better if you are near, but they wrote that Nazarbayev went to bow to Trump, brought a cloud of treaties to the military. I think this is not an option for a break. Everything is the same there. Plus, I heard that they are Russian ... not very generally, although they are, as it were, friends.
    4. raw174
      raw174 18 January 2018 09: 08
      +3
      Quote: Stas157
      Isn’t it better to give up your choice, really to the chosen one, the communist, Pavel Grudinin?

      Do not call it PEOPLE! What kind of people is he from? The National Assembly puts forward, a veche or some other circle, and then it will represent the people of a particular locality, and Grudinin - Zyuganovsky, the communist one can say, he still comes from the party ...
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 18 January 2018 11: 01
        11
        Quote: raw174
        Do not call it PEOPLE! What kind of people is he from?

        Extremely simple: Communists are for the people. EdRo and Putin - for the oligarchs!
        1. raw174
          raw174 18 January 2018 12: 29
          0
          Quote: Stas157
          Extremely simple: Communists are for the people. EdRo and Putin - for the oligarchs!

          Wow! This is a turn ... I personally have nothing against the Communists and Grudinin personally, I do not want to discuss its pros and cons, we are all not without a drawback, but still if the Communists are so good for the people, why don't people vote for them? But they really do not vote for them now ... Maybe they are for some other people? What did they do?
          1. Sasha_Sar
            Sasha_Sar 18 January 2018 15: 42
            +5
            Forgive me for interfering in your argument, but patience has broken about the elections. As we have already chosen, "no brainer" after September 10. Specifically about Saratov. At 18.00 p.m. the ballot papers are as clean as a bride’s dress (I saw it myself). And in the morning, 70% of the population came to the polls. Whom you do not ask, they voted for the Communist Party (O. Alimova), and the governor of the EP 70%. City manager (mayor) Sarayev in the morning writes a letter of resignation, the reason is the pressure on the IR. A commission arrives from Moscow from Elochka Panfilova, all the chairmen of the PECs fly with them. Including the Saratov region The result, instead of prosecuting Sarayev for violating the election law (they didn’t even initiate anything), he headed the center of metrology and standardization (diploma of a fireman-economist). Here we have such a "legitimately" elected governor, and you say the election.
            1. raw174
              raw174 19 January 2018 06: 34
              0
              Quote: Sasha_Sar
              Specifically about Saratov. At 18.00 p.m. the ballot papers are as clean as a bride’s dress (I saw it myself). And in the morning, 70% of the population came to the polls. Whom you do not ask, they voted for the Communist Party (O. Alimova), and the governor of the EP 70%.

              What about the observers? I worked at the PEC for 4 years, our observers didn’t get off the site, everyone with the magazines, everyone thinks, everyone is in touch with their headquarters, you won’t get any trouble, nobody wants to substitute in the commission ...
              Quote: Sasha_Sar
              Here we have such a "legitimately" elected governor, and you say the election.

              I haven’t been in your area, apparently the region is krymenalenky ... Such orders are usually established where the brothers hold the suit (sorry for the jargon).
              1. Sasha_Sar
                Sasha_Sar 19 January 2018 08: 47
                0
                No, "suit holds" the speaker of the State Duma Mr. Volodin V.V.
        2. A.Kaledin
          A.Kaledin 18 January 2018 17: 18
          0
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: raw174
          Do not call it PEOPLE! What kind of people is he from?

          Extremely simple: Communists are for the people. EdRo and Putin - for the oligarchs!
          And how many people are for the Communists to call each communist candidate popular ...
  3. Alex66
    Alex66 18 January 2018 06: 33
    +9
    Everything is right, since capitalism, then all its vices and no Orthodoxy will save us from them. When one person parasitizes on another, a strong one strangles those who are weaker; competition justifies this. Instead of helping the weak to become stronger, the evil to become magnanimous, we adopted a competitive system and abandoned the system of cooperation. And on this path we have no future. Russia will be destroyed, here the Western system is superior to us.
  4. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 18 January 2018 06: 46
    13
    Semin outlined everything correctly! There is nothing to add.
  5. EwgenyZ
    EwgenyZ 18 January 2018 07: 03
    +5
    Well done "expert" Semin, put everything in its place, and found the root of evil! It turns out that then, in the USSR, everything was so blissful, and there was no drug addiction, and the children were all good guys, because they didn’t stick out at the porches, but they were with mugs and sections. Someone cannot say this about their Soviet childhood, half of those with whom I ran around the yards have long been “not with us”, but oh well, He’s an expert, He’s better to know. Konstantin is lamented that for thirty years now we have been walking along the bestial path of development ... Oh, how lamented, but will the "expert" be cunning by chance? For me, duck, we embarked on this path a hundred years ago, when the new government "explained" to the people that people are not God's children, but intelligent animals, sort of very smart monkeys, but there is no God and there is only one life and everything must be taken from life. Some, however, didn’t understand this as they wanted in the CPSU (B.), Well, as they say: taste and color .... And now crocodiles don’t shed tears, after all, God is possible now and there isn’t eternal torment for crime. Just thirty years ago they ceased to be hypocrites and began to call a spade a spade.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 18 January 2018 07: 49
      +6
      Quote: EwgenyZ
      Just thirty years ago they ceased to be hypocrites

      Yeah, and at the same time they went to the racketeers, their fingers bent, non-hypocritical. Bear Kvakin was tearing apples, but these pioneers did not see the fields at all.
      1. RussKamikadZE
        RussKamikadZE 18 January 2018 10: 12
        +2
        These racketeers were brought up in Soviet schools and society. So about the "sinlessness and ideality" of people under the USSR, the author is not right.
      2. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 18 January 2018 12: 16
        +2
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Yeah, and at the same time they went to the racketeers, their fingers bent, non-hypocritical.

        Well, if, you remember the 90s, you should remember that almost all of these racketeers were athletes brought up in the Soviet sports sections ... Yes, and chubais, all sorts, they didn’t come from the moon.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 18 January 2018 12: 26
          +5
          Of course. They only appeared in perestroika, when the country rapidly began to lose conscience. Artificial deficit, on the one hand, cooperating on impudent prices, on the other, and their roofing racketeers, on the third. They all wanted to live beautifully. So today they just rule.
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 18 January 2018 14: 29
            0
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Of course. They only appeared in perestroika, when the country rapidly began to lose conscience.

            Okay, accepted. Perestroika, well, duck, perestroika is to blame. Clearly understood. And about the artificial deficit, you probably joked. Even Raikin, the Kingdom, He, Heavenly, joked - "Let everything be, but let something be missing." Do you remember? wink Although, I agree - artificial! Under the Communists, a lot of things became a deficit, even despite the fact that others had free access.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 18 January 2018 14: 50
              +1
              There was a deficit, I will not argue. It’s just that he arose under Khrushchev, who reassigned all the cooperatives to state property. And about 2 of millions of people worked in them. So Raikin would have to cry. Brezhnev, unfortunately, did not return anything back. And the curve rolled ... But there even TVs were released. And the quality was excellent. Almost all the little things, and not only, were made in artels. And they did not allow flailing. At 10%, not higher, sort of. In our city there was the Chemical Artel "Third Five-Year Plan", so now it belongs to the Americans. Launches detergents. And under Mechen, the market for imports began to become impudent. And we clapped our ears.
              1. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 18 January 2018 17: 31
                0
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                There was a deficit, I will not argue. That's just when he arose under Khrushchev.

                Pardonte, but who was Khrushchev? A bourgeois or something, or, most not at all, a communist ?! He entered the immediate circle of Stalin. Yes, and Mikhal Sergeyich, too, it seems, not from the oligarchs.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 18 January 2018 17: 56
                  0
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  He entered the immediate circle of Stalin.

                  Entered. Only before the war, Stalin cleaned his entourage periodically, and then they themselves cleaned it. They did not want to live modestly. And Mikhailo received a tidy sum for recognizing South Korea. Yes, and today is not calamity. He brought the country with his new thoughts and pluralisms.
                  1. EwgenyZ
                    EwgenyZ 19 January 2018 07: 27
                    0
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    Only before the war, Stalin cleaned his entourage periodically, and then they themselves cleaned it.

                    The sensible students were caught, they learned the lesson perfectly. And the teacher himself was "cleaned up."
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    They did not want to live modestly

                    But why?
                    Probably because the system was artificial, and when they “gave up the slack” everything went wrong. At that, not yet under Gorbachev, but immediately after the death of Stalin, and Perestroika became the logical conclusion of the experiment.
    2. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 18 January 2018 10: 44
      +1
      Quote: EwgenyZ
      For me, duck, we embarked on this path a hundred years ago, when the new government "explained" to the people that people are not God's children, but intelligent animals, sort of very smart monkeys, but there is no God and there is only one life and everything must be taken from life.

      That's just funny laughing ... And in the West, it seems they didn’t “explain”, in America (and not only) God is remembered in business and not in business, in vain, only the result is much more deplorable - there people have long become animals ... What is this for everything led everything we see on americipedi and geyrop. In addition, there is no clarity - and what kind of God is it in particular? And how will we consider God - from the point of view of religion or faith?
      For me, duck, we embarked on the bestial path 30 years ago, when the new "power" "explained" to the people that there is nothing sacred at all, and one life and everything must be taken from life.
      By the way, the Moral Code of the builder of communism is not much different from the biblical commandments. I agree that the Bolshevik Communists did not at all arrange all kinds of persecution of the Russian Orthodox Church and its adherents, it would be somehow softer and more harmonious to approach without pressure. But, it would be if they had not crap and the times were a little different.
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 18 January 2018 12: 06
        0
        Quote: Antianglosaks
        And in the West, it seems they didn’t “explain” it, in America (and not only) God is remembered in and out of business, in vain, only the result is much worse

        Do not worry, they explain, and began to do it much earlier than ours, though without our fanaticism, but "slowly and surely", therefore the results there are envy of our "drummers of the godless five-year plan".
        Quote: Antianglosaks
        In addition, there is no clarity - and what kind of God is it in particular?

        Well, God alone, why isn’t it clear? request
        Quote: Antianglosaks
        By the way, the Moral Code of the builder of communism is not much different from the biblical commandments.

        Well, as little as the Yak-40 and Tu-134, both jet planes, both fly but the tasks are different.
    3. would
      would 21 January 2018 13: 22
      +1
      For me, duck, we embarked on this path a hundred years ago, when the new government "explained" to the people that people are not God's children, but intelligent animals, sort of very smart monkeys, but there is no God and there is only one life and everything must be taken from life. Some, however, didn’t understand this as they wanted in the CPSU (B.), Well, as they say: taste and color .... And now crocodiles don’t shed tears, after all, God is possible now and there isn’t eternal torment for crime


      It’s immediately obvious that you don’t know how it was in the Republic of Ingushetia, you don’t know the mores of that time. Because then God was, and therefore any sins could be washed away for the bribe indicated. He raped his whole life? Robbed? Was he killing? Pay a bribe in favor of the Church and you are guaranteed entrance to the gates of paradise. God is some kind of corruption lol

      So state religion does not just change anything, but on the contrary gives the opportunity to wash away all sins.

      Secondly, the mores of that time were much tougher and more brutal than the current ones. Nobody, peasants, the aristocracy, the sexual exploitation of children was the absolute norm, and child prostitution in the Republic of Ingushetia not only flourished, but according to records from those years, it existed openly on boulevards and squares in broad daylight. It was in the 21st century that they came up with some kind of sexual inviolability of children, before there was nothing of the sort and the directing directors of the gymnasiums were not even removed from their posts. This was considered the norm in the Republic of Ingushetia, even the enthusiasm of the aristocracy. One was removed, but after very quickly returned back.

      And what? There are no indelible sins, pay the priest, he will wash away everything. And no eternal torment for crimes, they are for the poor, for those who can not pay in favor of state religion.

      So the revolution happened not just like that, oh, it’s not just like that.
  6. raw174
    raw174 18 January 2018 07: 39
    +1
    On January 17, schoolchildren stabbing happened in our country, in the Chelyabinsk region, in Smolny ... Now, are they all wearing knives at school?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 18 January 2018 08: 15
      +6
      I don’t know how now, but in the Union I always had a knife in my pocket. From the first class. And there were no such thoughts, what to stick into someone. Almost all of them had knives. All these pioneers, collective farmers, squirrels, tourists, hunters with sawn extractors, shepherds, fishermen, etc. Hundreds of models in the Union produced.
      1. raw174
        raw174 18 January 2018 09: 04
        +3
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        I don’t know how now, but in the Union I always had a knife in my pocket

        I didn’t have a knife, but they played with knives with boys when there was no carbide))) We also did without knife stabs, but somewhere it probably didn’t ...
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 18 January 2018 11: 17
          +3
          Quote: raw174
          when there was no carbide

          Ohhh, carbide, carbide! Great childhood toy! )))))
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 18 January 2018 08: 10
    +6
    I subscribe to every word of Semin ... That's right ...
    1. tasha
      tasha 18 January 2018 08: 30
      +1
      Much is true. So what? How many of them lamenting about the problems of modern Russia ... And nobody wants to work with a shovel ... wink
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 18 January 2018 09: 27
        +5
        I understand that you do not work with a shovel either ..
        1. tasha
          tasha 18 January 2018 10: 11
          +3
          And it happens with a shovel. I do a lot of things. wink
          I try to follow the principle of “I disagree, Criticize. Criticize, offer. Suggest - do.” .. Well, it’s true with Do sometimes problems. But I don’t get into analytic writers either ... wink
    2. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 18 January 2018 10: 48
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      I subscribe to every word of Semin ... That's right ...

      Such people, with a spotless reputation, with honor and conscience, must be prepared for the head of state.
      1. raw174
        raw174 18 January 2018 12: 32
        0
        Quote: Antianglosaks
        Such people, with a spotless reputation, with honor and conscience, must be prepared for the head of state.

        In a closed special school? but in politics it is impossible not to get dirty in. out of the ordinary, if you engage in it seriously ...
  8. Loess
    Loess 18 January 2018 08: 55
    +5
    The United States is a classic capitalist society. They always set him an example for us,
    who sets? Echo of Moscow and others like them?
    Every biography in our country is a pathology.
    Author, speak for yourself.
    Sooner or later, the frumins who grew up in society will meet them at the porch with a knife.
    To prevent this from happening, one should not write any garbage on the Internet, but "sow the rational, the good, the eternal." Do not get hung up on the negative, from this negative it becomes, only more, but write about people who do good, perform feats, for example:
    The author, if you write interestingly, the article’s rating will be no less than when you write about the negative. I do not urge to hide the negative, but young people should have an example that they want to emulate.
  9. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 18 January 2018 09: 21
    +5
    Dear author! I have already written about this for a long time. Very many problems of our society from blind copying of the liberal capitalist system, which our authorities blindly copied from the United States back in the 90s and still, being a vassal of this collective West, cannot refuse this system!
    1. alstr
      alstr 18 January 2018 10: 21
      +1
      In fact, everything is quite simple and complex at the same time.
      Our problem is that under the USSR there was some kind of common idea-goal. Yes. she was somewhat utopian and little attainable, but she was. And now there is no such idea, because personal well-being cannot be considered the ultimate idea.

      So it turns out that everyone rushed to fulfill their idea. But they are different - these ideas. So we get confusion and reeling. In addition, it is difficult to realize even your own idea.

      Therefore, until we all understand for what we live, except for our well-being, until then, this will happen for us.

      Well, of course, the author lied about drugs and stabbing. All this was, but much retouched.
  10. Captain45
    Captain45 18 January 2018 09: 32
    +2
    It seems to me that the supervision system, the education system and all other systems today work synchronously and look the same. It doesn’t matter what the conversation is about - they are all put on the market rails.(C)
    The school provides educational SERVICES, medicine, medical SERVICES, etc., etc. - the whole country is in the service staff or in the service. Born in the USSR, of course, it is difficult to be chaldean or sexual with a napkin on your hand, providing services, because "I would be glad to serve, nauseous to serve" (c), not the kind of upbringing, not the bourgeois "please -with". Another 15-20 years, and then we die out like mammoths, then the bourgeoisie will unfurl and the corresponding cadres will grow up and raise their children.
  11. Captain45
    Captain45 18 January 2018 09: 43
    +3
    Well, VO was completely corrected. I used in the commentary the printed name of women with low social responsibility, which could not be better describing a particular category of citizens from the managerial category, I could not publish it, they write that "the text of the comment contains invalid expressions." This is where it all starts, as in the army, all the troubles come from the unfastened top button. At first we can’t bashfully call a spade a spade, suddenly someone will be offended, and then we are surprised at the stabbing at school. We remember a physical instructor smoking a chuck with a ramrod from the “air” on the asses and no one complained, and the cleaner could rage the rag or broom. From the fourth grade the floors themselves were washed, and the desks were not even the same and nothing, no one was indignant and didn’t die, They worked at the school site, and then at the sponsored state farm. And now - God forbid, how is it to wash the floor in the classroom? belay So they get used to crap, because they do not clean with their own hands am
  12. CONTROL
    CONTROL 18 January 2018 10: 24
    +1
    Before the "Aeloes" and "Morlocks" - one step ...
    And he's already done!
  13. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 10: 52
    +3
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Any calls to legally, selectively change the system through a change of current leaders, V. Putin, are met with a mass protest of duped or paid people. "We are satisfied, We do not need Maidan."

    Zaputintsev’s main argument is “do you want it like in Ukraine?” They do not understand. that the power system built on 1 person will collapse after this person. This means that not a state was built, but a house of cards, which is bound to collapse.
  14. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 10: 56
    +2
    Quote: Antianglosaks
    Such people, with a spotless reputation, with honor and conscience, must be prepared for the head of state.

    Unfortunately, on the Olympus of power, people with a different life position! There SUCH not needed! “To serve would be glad, to be sick of sickening” - remains only in books
  15. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 10: 59
    +2
    Quote: tasha
    Right - Crimea. Left - a strawberry hangar built wink

    It's good to be kind when there is a lot of money wink

    it is possible in another way:
    Crimea to the right, Ukraine to the left.
    GDP has so much money. that another 100 billion S has been invested in the US economy.
    Who is poorer and more efficient?
  16. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 11: 04
    +7
    Quote: tasha
    Elections are not roulette, the country is not a bet ... How will businessman Grudinin behave when faced with problems not of the level of strawberry beds, but completely different?

    but it’s very well known how Putin will behave after the election.

    100 billion S bucks is not money for him, the main thing is the image!
    When choosing Putin, you know that you get Medvedev and Co., free of charge, "modernization" of health care and education, stratification of society by property qualification, etc.
  17. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 11: 12
    +7
    “If we remove the dysfunctional from the class, then at some point these children will be waiting for us in the porches with knives.
    ----------------------------
    In the 90s I had an interesting conversation with an entrepreneur who, in those years, slept with a TT under his pillow.
    He just explained everything to me .- “You understand, when you have everything and whoever has nothing, then there comes a moment when this hungry and deprived person asks himself a simple question - why so? He takes in his hand what he can — a club, armature , the gun goes and takes its own. He will kill someone, get in his car and be happy that he has everything. But he forgets that somewhere nearby he’s growing the same deprived and hungry who will come for him in a few years life. "
    This philosophy shows that our life will consist of a series of such incidents, for the way of our life is now flawed. It is impossible in a society where the power of money reigns and there is no social justice to achieve peace and universal love
  18. Alex_59
    Alex_59 18 January 2018 11: 14
    +2
    Of course, everything is written correctly, but I would have cut off the peaks of a sinusoid drawn by the author. Not so everything was great in the USSR, and not so terrible now.
  19. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 11: 16
    +2
    Quote: raw174
    Maybe then Sapchak? If only to have time to dump in Kazakhstan, I’m not far here!)))

    that’s the tragedy that the GDP cleaned up the site with its flights and dives so that there will be no alternative for a long time. After all, only Sobchak comes to your mind. And what, in Russia, apart from Sobchak, there are no personalities?
  20. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 11: 19
    +3
    Quote: RussKamikadZE
    These racketeers were brought up in Soviet schools and society. So about the "sinlessness and ideality" of people under the USSR, the author is not right.

    Do you want to say that these characters were in the USSR? They appeared when power lost power. Have you forgotten the "tower" for embezzlement on an especially large scale? 50 thousand stolen and you still have a shot!
  21. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 11: 20
    +3
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    I don’t know how now, but in the Union I always had a knife in my pocket. From the first class. And there were no such thoughts, what to stick into someone.

    but I walked freely at night and was not afraid, I didn’t carry knives, and I was sure of tomorrow
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 18 January 2018 11: 44
      +3
      Quote: Overlock
      but I walked freely at night and was not afraid, I didn’t carry knives, and I was sure of tomorrow

      I also walked at night, and was not afraid, but the knives were played like knives, they were thrown at the target, and it’s just necessary if there is a slingshot to cut, or a crossbow to make, or a bow there ... As a tool, in general, not like XO.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 18 January 2018 15: 55
        +1
        I agree completely
  22. Lexus
    Lexus 18 January 2018 11: 23
    +4
    Irresponsibility and impunity. Recall at least how deputies and officials "unanimously" defended Klaus Desyatnichenko.
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  24. Angor
    Angor 18 January 2018 11: 38
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  25. Radikal
    Radikal 18 January 2018 11: 57
    +2
    Quote: tasha
    I can not agree with the last paragraph. In vain is he talking about Isak Frumin.
    Here is a great quote:
    “We must understand:“ the quality of education ”and“ educational conditions ”are not the same thing,” says Isak Frumin. “Why should an elite school differ in that it has a swimming pool, but not in a regular school? Situation, when some children study in palaces, while others in huts, it is completely unacceptable for a civilized country, but you have to understand that there are especially gifted children who need really special conditions, special programs and specially trained teachers to study, and the state should pay for this. Nobody minds about This is due to the fact that the teacher at the conservatory’s music school individually deals with each student, but now we’re talking about a different, general approach to the problem. If parents want their children in a secondary school to receive more services, so that they have more subjects in comparison with the regular program, so that there are five students in the class - well, let them pay for it. Private Elite Schools. "

    In countries that spend 5 percent of GDP on education (we have, as you know, 3 percent, and not GDP, but the state budget), it has long been understood that the state should support not elite schools, but those that work in difficult socio-economic conditions, they teach difficult children and show good results. These are the best schools. Experts call them resilient. But in our Ministry of Education they didn’t even hear such a word, which the Education Minister Olga Vasilyeva openly admitted.


    Isak Davidovich writes that it is necessary to look for children who are more than talented and smart, and for them to create conditions at the expense of the state .. Remember the PhysTech School, for example ...

    And did our illustrious Soviet designers, scientists graduate from special schools for gifted children? Read the biographies of many - there you will not find any mention of it! Moreover, many of them graduated from the so-called SHRM at that time - the school of working youth! Therefore, your pathos about this Isaac Davidovich is somewhat inappropriate! hi sad
  26. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 18 January 2018 12: 31
    +1
    ..we have switched to a completely bestial development platform. Although the “development” of what is happening to us today cannot be called ... YES! This is true!
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 19 January 2018 11: 16
      +1
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Although the “development” of what is happening to us today cannot be called ... YES! This is true!

      Obama is to blame, definitely !!!!
  27. Luga
    Luga 18 January 2018 13: 33
    +3
    When in the beginning of the 80's I went to the first grade, children's disagreements were resolved “behind the school” one on one in the presence of “seconds” who made sure that the rules were respected. Without metal, you can’t beat it while lying there so that you don’t bite, you can’t break your hair, break your fingers ... The boy’s fight then was a manifestation of fortitude, the ability to stand up for yourself. Often after the fight, the guys became friends. Personally, my acquaintance with some of the guys, whom I later became very good friends with, began with a fight. Mutual massacre on equal terms generated mutual respect.
    When I finished school there were no such “duel fights”. It was considered valor to attack one “gopsha”, to overwhelm him and “stupid”, and the tougher, so, therefore, your “gopsha” is cooler. In high school, such “showdowns” among seven-eighth-graders were repeatedly dispersed with friends — five for one, seven ... And this turning point happened years ago in 1987-88. I then for the first time in a serious way from a company of about seven people. There was a conflict, we agreed one on one, they were imported, I ended up on top and immediately caught it from head to foot with all its amplitude, it only lay and closed. And the guys were acquaintances, from a neighboring village, we knew each other before that, including by name, and used to fight and make friends. What happened Why have concepts changed so dramatically?
    The author of the article is right in one thing - society is responsible for such behavior of children. Models of behavior are formed by upbringing, in which we all participate, as a society for all children as a whole and as a direct environment for specific children. But this idea could be expressed more concisely.
  28. vandarus
    vandarus 18 January 2018 13: 59
    0
    This is not a problem for our society. This is the problem of our civilization. Those who move civilization forward technically, culturally, etc. as a percentage, less per generation than the so-called human ballast producing nothing, not creating. I do not consider people ballast (because it already stinks of fascism), but the logic is that under capitalism (wild or industrial it doesn’t matter) whole generations of "extra people" appear. And these people without a future, without prospects, with education from Fursenko, living on handouts from the state. They are fed crappy food, stuffed with stupid television shows, arranged for them mundiales (just not buzzed), and from time to time thin out wars. Subconsciously, at the level of instincts, everyone feels it. This spills out into fan communities, AUE, etc. Increasingly, acts of seemingly unmotivated violence are occurring in many countries, but the reason lies in the socio-social formation that dominates the world (to one degree or another) - this is capitalism.
    What happened to us, and in particular how it was tried to pass off for some stabbing two 17-year-olds, who tried to separate the four-graders and the teacher, is only a special case. More will come next.
  29. Radikal
    Radikal 18 January 2018 15: 17
    +3
    Quote: EwgenyZ
    Well done "expert" Semin, put everything in its place, and found the root of evil! It turns out that then, in the USSR, everything was so blissful, and there was no drug addiction, and the children were all good guys, because they didn’t stick out at the porches, but they were with mugs and sections. Someone cannot say this about their Soviet childhood, half of those with whom I ran around the yards have long been “not with us”, but oh well, He’s an expert, He’s better to know. Konstantin is lamented that for thirty years now we have been walking along the bestial path of development ... Oh, how lamented, but will the "expert" be cunning by chance? For me, duck, we embarked on this path a hundred years ago, when the new government "explained" to the people that people are not God's children, but intelligent animals, sort of very smart monkeys, but there is no God and there is only one life and everything must be taken from life. Some, however, didn’t understand this as they wanted in the CPSU (B.), Well, as they say: taste and color .... And now crocodiles don’t shed tears, after all, God is possible now and there isn’t eternal torment for crime. Just thirty years ago they ceased to be hypocrites and began to call a spade a spade.

    About "Just thirty years ago they stopped hypocrisy and began to call a spade a spade" - that's cool !!! And now the power is all in white, and terribly fluffy! I sob from "tenderness", and "pride" for her! wassat PS My dear, where do you live? In a single ... TV? belay
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 19 January 2018 08: 50
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      I sob from "tenderness", and "pride" for her! wassat

      Keep on crying.
      Quote: Radikal
      And now the power is all in white, and terribly fluffy!

      These are your conclusions, I did not say that. It’s just that now a lot can be called by their own names, and thirty years ago, for such conversations and on the 70th article, you could "go"
      Quote: Radikal
      PS My dear, where do you live? In a single ... TV? belay

      I live in Mother Russia. Where are you?
  30. prior
    prior 18 January 2018 16: 59
    +3
    Whatever we write here, the question when it will be better, the answer was already there.
    Traditionally, the situation develops from bad to worse. It remains to wait a bit.
  31. A.Kaledin
    A.Kaledin 18 January 2018 17: 21
    +2
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: EwgenyZ
    Just thirty years ago they ceased to be hypocrites

    Yeah, and at the same time they went to the racketeers, their fingers bent, non-hypocritical. Bear Kvakin was tearing apples, but these pioneers did not see the fields at all.

    And not the pupils of that Soviet system went to racketeers? No!? Are Komsomol members retrained as racketeers !?
  32. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 19 January 2018 05: 29
    0
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    Quote: tasha
    Communist Party candidate and the Left Front - businessman, owner of a large ZAO and owner of land in the suburbs of Pavel Grudinin ...

    Judging by business fellow

    Campaign level Navalny with these wonderful pictures. And the “patriot” preferred to keep his money abroad. All you need to know about the oligarchs from the collective farm to them. Lenin
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 19 January 2018 11: 16
      +2
      Quote: Sergeant71
      And the “patriot” preferred to keep his money abroad. All you need to know about the oligarchs from the collective farm to them. Lenin

      So here patriotic security officials can pocket this money. Few cases of spin-off business? Even the Most “cellists” are kept in offshore.
      1. Plate
        Plate 21 January 2018 21: 41
        0
        Are those who take money offshore, suddenly become good uncles who are hiding from the security forces?
  33. Captain45
    Captain45 19 January 2018 11: 40
    0
    Today in the news: in Barnaul, a schoolboy with an ax and a bottle of gasoline ... Let the media write more, do advertising at @ rkam. fool DBL, BLT (c) Nothing else comes to mind with regard to the media, that of schoolchildren.
    1. vandarus
      vandarus 19 January 2018 12: 48
      +1
      Those. Is the reason the media are reporting this? Try to think.
      1. Plate
        Plate 21 January 2018 21: 39
        0
        Well, yes. Man is a flocking creature, as you do not try to deny it. And accordingly, if you see a lot of information about how people urinate people, then corresponding thoughts arise ...
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  34. turbris
    turbris 19 January 2018 17: 49
    0
    Of course, I do not agree that the tragedy in Perm makes a diagnosis for our society, here the author clearly went too far. But behind discussions about our current appearance, the role of parents in raising their own children has been lost, all hopes are placed on the state, on the government, on other public organizations. Who is primarily guilty of what happened in Perm? Of course, the parents of these juvenile delinquents and they should be held accountable for this, along with those whom they raised. In our country, parents have no responsibility at all for the upbringing of their children, they gave birth - they gave it in a nursery, and this basically ends the upbringing, but only care for the daily bread remains. And who are the parents? Either the child fell out of the window, then suffocated in his own bed, then the 5-year-old child stayed on the street at night, because the parents are drunk, then they generally offer their own 12-year-old daughter for sale for comfort - is that what? Of course, I am categorically against juvenile justice, but parents should be responsible for their children, up to their full age, and this should not be formally, but controlled by the relevant state bodies, otherwise complete impunity leads to such cases.
  35. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 19 January 2018 18: 32
    0
    Quote: Alex_59
    Our Crimea is only thanks to the Crimeans themselves

    I remember the signing of the agreement on the adoption of Crimea to Russia. The joyful faces of Aksyonov, Konstantinov and Chaly. And a sour, tortured smile on Putin's face.
  36. Radikal
    Radikal 19 January 2018 21: 22
    0
    Quote: EwgenyZ
    Quote: Radikal
    I sob from "tenderness", and "pride" for her! wassat

    Keep on crying.
    Quote: Radikal
    And now the power is all in white, and terribly fluffy!

    These are your conclusions, I did not say that. It’s just that now a lot can be called by their own names, and thirty years ago, for such conversations and on the 70th article, you could "go"
    Quote: Radikal
    PS My dear, where do you live? In a single ... TV? belay

    I live in Mother Russia. Where are you?

    I once explained to one character that 30 years ago there simply wouldn’t have been many reasons to write what we write here, but at the same time we would have sorted out those who are really the enemy of the country, and now feel quite comfortable traveling abroad grants, lives here, and "sprinkles" our history with mud! And nothing happens to them for that! As for Mother Russia, in which you, like I live, it turned out to be different for everyone! For some, it is an object for profit, for others, it is a territory for satisfying their own ambitions, the third and last category of people are truly patriots of their country, they remember that, and multiplies its glorious history, sometimes it gives its life! And how do you relate to yourself? sad
  37. Radikal
    Radikal 19 January 2018 21: 42
    0
    Quote: tasha
    I can not agree with the last paragraph. In vain is he talking about Isak Frumin.
    Here is a great quote:
    “We must understand:“ the quality of education ”and“ educational conditions ”are not the same thing,” says Isak Frumin. “Why should an elite school differ in that it has a swimming pool, but not in a regular school? Situation, when some children study in palaces, while others in huts, it is completely unacceptable for a civilized country, but you have to understand that there are especially gifted children who need really special conditions, special programs and specially trained teachers to study, and the state should pay for this. Nobody minds about This is due to the fact that the teacher at the conservatory’s music school individually deals with each student, but now we’re talking about a different, general approach to the problem. If parents want their children in a secondary school to receive more services, so that they have more subjects in comparison with the regular program, so that there are five students in the class - well, let them pay for it. Private Elite Schools. "

    In countries that spend 5 percent of GDP on education (we have, as you know, 3 percent, and not GDP, but the state budget), it has long been understood that the state should support not elite schools, but those that work in difficult socio-economic conditions, they teach difficult children and show good results. These are the best schools. Experts call them resilient. But in our Ministry of Education they didn’t even hear such a word, which the Education Minister Olga Vasilyeva openly admitted.


    Isak Davidovich writes that it is necessary to look for children who are more than talented and smart, and for them to create conditions at the expense of the state .. Remember the PhysTech School, for example ...

    As for the Frumin you mentioned, find on the Internet, in the NTV archive, the release of the program "PE, Investigation" for 19.01.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX. There is your idol in all its glory! wassat hi
  38. Axon
    Axon 20 January 2018 22: 33
    0
    in my opinion, this is a diagnosis to the author
  39. Plate
    Plate 21 January 2018 21: 36
    0
    Why did I learn about these VKontakte groups from this article? By themselves, of course, they do not judge, but ... I spend most of the time on the Internet just in this social network. And before that, I have not heard about the groups where the killers gather. Maybe this is not such a common phenomenon?
  40. Radikal
    Radikal 23 January 2018 14: 50
    0
    Quote: EwgenyZ
    Quote: Radikal
    I sob from "tenderness", and "pride" for her! wassat

    Keep on crying.
    Quote: Radikal
    And now the power is all in white, and terribly fluffy!

    These are your conclusions, I did not say that. It’s just that now a lot can be called by their own names, and thirty years ago, for such conversations and on the 70th article, you could "go"
    Quote: Radikal
    PS My dear, where do you live? In a single ... TV? belay

    I live in Mother Russia. Where are you?

    I forgot to ask - do you know the 70th article of the Criminal Code “in life”, or in work? wassat