7 Armenian "activists" advocated the withdrawal of Russian border guards from the republic

Armenian edition Lragir It comes out with material that speaks about the new initiative of the so-called activists of the republic. We are talking about the proposal, which concerns the withdrawal of Russian border guards from the territory of Armenia, who provide assistance to their Armenian colleagues in the protection of the country's borders.

For reference: joint protection of the state border of Armenia by the Border Troops of the FSB of the Russian Federation and the National Security Service of Armenia is carried out on the basis of an intergovernmental agreement dated 1992. Russian border guards are involved in the border with Armenia and Iran.

Armenian activists whose names were published (Albert Baghdasaryan, Arman Melikyan, David Sanasaryan, Yeghishe Petrosyan, Karapet Rubinyan, Hovsep Khurshudyan, Petros Makeyan) support the Armenian border guards to carry out the functions of protecting the border without outside help. It is noted that the presence of Russian border guards in Armenia is almost a violation of Armenian sovereignty.

From the published “appeals” of the aforementioned activists, who never reported exactly which organization they represent:

The transfer of the protection of the state border of Armenia with the Islamic Republic of Iran to the forces of the Armenian border troops aims not only to restore the sovereign rights of Armenia, but also to strengthen our defense capability in the Meghri strategic sector - in case of an armed attack on us from Nakhichevan. That is, in this area, the Armenian border troops will carry out the functions of an additional defense reserve, which is not part of the tasks of the Russian border guards.

And then it becomes clear where the “legs” of this statement “grow from” and for what purpose it is voiced in some Armenian media:

We call on citizens of our country, social and political organizations and the media to unite efforts in the name of promoting the idea of ​​full restoration of the sovereignty of Armenia. If our above offers do not find proper response from the addressee, we reserve the right to take active protest, which will additionally notify the public.

Comments

[210ox]

Ramsik among them?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: 210ox

Ramsik among them?

I also immediately remembered him ... There’s even nothing to comment on, but simply to read Ramzik.

[Herculesic]

MIKHAN- Vitaliy, were you "reanimated" on the site? Well, forward to the mines and your favorite hehe to help you!

[alex-s]

7 Armenian "activists"

Ararat 7 *

[Pirogov]

Quote: alex-s

Ararat 7 * laughing

Take all seven and send to Turkey for (treatment).

[Slovak]

What for? To the border. Doesn’t the good 50% of Armenians in Russia interfere with their “sovereignty”? Let the struggle unfold for the return of all Armenians to their native land.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Slovak

Doesn’t the good 50% of Armenians in Russia interfere with their “sovereignty”? Let the struggle unfold for the return of all Armenians to their native land.

You just need to identify their relatives living in Russia and send activists to Armenia for a period "until the enlightenment of the mind". I assure you, in less than a week, these activists, who are blue from family beating, will be demanding an increase in the Russian military contingent with banners.

[ZVladimir222]

And also apply sanctions against Armenian entrepreneurs in Russia. Especially those who hold the bread business and sell alcohol day and night (we have a lot of such shops nearby).
There are no longer related and not only beatings will go!

[Scoun]

Quote: alex-s

7 Armenian "activists"

Ararat 7 *

No ... write nauseous)) so Lebanon.




The great satirist Zadornov left us, but his work lives on. I do not need to say that we are smart - were, now no. The nonsense that American officials at the highest levels carry is just a fairy tale. Moreover, in the place of the Ukrainians who won the Maidan - I would start to worry. In reality, their older comrades in democracy will soon be giving up.




In general, there will be time - I’ll make a list of the stupid statements of American politicians.

Well, really. They have already stated that they are exceptional. That they are a planetary conscience. What they have the right to be in Syria - because. And so, as Viktor Chernomyrdin said: it never happened again.


The US State Department has criticized a new Russian law requiring foreign-funded media outlets to register as foreign agents, Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty reports. According to State Department spokesman Heather Nauert, Moscow seeks to "strengthen its control over the media," and comparisons between this norm and similar acts in force in the United States are "unacceptable."


Do you see why our liberd is so dumb? Well, who taught so many years? And, thanks, it worked out. After all, everything is exactly 1 in 1. When Navalny publishes some kind of discharge, especially documents stolen from someone else's servers - this is an investigation. When merged also about Navalny - this is a violation of human rights. 

When Venediktov knocks - this is a civil position. When they knock on Venediktov, this is a denunciation.

When Sobchak calls the Russians "genetic garbage," she is worried about our future. When we call it also, it is an "atmosphere of hatred."

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Herkulesich

MIKHAN- Vitaliy, were you "reanimated" on the site? Well, forward to the mines and your favorite hehe to help you!

Well, with God's help, otherwise the checker began to become covered with rust ..
These are the things Herculesych in the tank-cavalry troops ..
Something from Armenia adequate forum users have disappeared altogether ... (I will not say the reason))

[Svarog51]

Vitaliy, And Herculesych then in the profile is signed as Vitalievich. You would, as a father, take action.

and then the checker became covered with rust ..

Did you keep the army belt?

[Geisenberg]

Quote: 210ox

Ramsik among them?

Surely)))

[Alexkorzun]

Maybe all the same Razmik? I do not know any Ramzik ​​....

And these seven - is that such a serious argument to spread on Internet resources? I suppose there are psychiatric hospitals in Armenia and there are a lot of patients there! Much more than seven. And now what, all of them need to be questioned about the Armenian border and Russian border guards?

[rocket757]

They press on all the “keys”, hopefully squeeze something out.
It can be sad, but it’s interesting to see what will crawl out of this crush ???
I think sho is not a jam it will be ???

[Servisinzhener]

But just which of them was hiding under this nickname?

[Sauron80]

And rightly so, they want to be friends with Turkey "crazy" - let them be friends, just like in the beginning of the 20th century. But then they themselves will come running - “Russia, save and save”, well, those who survive will certainly run, not only everything, few can do it.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Sauron80

But then they themselves will come running - “Russia, save and save”, well, those who survive will certainly run, not only everything, few can do it.

So this handful counts on it, to set the fire on fire to drive Russia in and topple to the west .. Everything follows the pattern!

[Herculesic]

Vitaliy! We are only angry on the site, and in life, if we come running, we help, even enemies! We are Russia! !!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Herkulesich

Vitaliy! We are only angry on the site, and in life, if we come running, we help, even enemies! We are Russia! !!

They dragged them in fights (with massacre and shooting) and we will continue this business, although then they will throw us together .. Such a fate is in Russia and Russians !! We don’t know how otherwise .. Internationalism is in our blood and just humanity!

[Felix99]

Well, you aunt! Just seven children needed a small window on the border. Well, there is barbecue-mashlyk or gerych-marafetych to pass on to relatives.

[Rriv]

For your information:
1. About relatives. Relatives of mostly Azerbaijanis live on the other side.
2. About the window. Armenians are already protecting (or controlling) the border with Iran with a length of more than 80 km (in a straight line). Under the control of the FSB FS, the border section is about 33 km (in a straight line).

[Felix99]

The drug mafia has relatives on all sides of the border.
The fact that the FSB FS controls only a small 33 km part of the border does not mean that there can be no interests in this particular section.
Handsome men with interests can call themselves patriots, ethnographers, environmentalists, whatever. But interests at the border always arise.

[vasilkovichi]

Not in a suction, but in a suction, followed by the burial of Armenians in a nearby gorge.

[PValery53]

If you quote "classic" (Klitschko), then mark, otherwise it turns out to be "plagiarism."

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Quote: Sauron80

And rightly so, they want to be friends with Turkey "crazy" - let them be friends, just like at the beginning of the 20 century.

Read the text carefully:

Security Transfer rthe state border of Armenia with the Islamic Republic of Iran The forces of the Armenian border troops have as their goal not only the restoration of the sovereign rights of Armenia, but also the strengthening of our defenses in the Meghra strategic sector - in the event of an armed attack on us by Nakhichevan.

I don’t know why we are protecting the border of Armenia (with Iran and Turkey) .... I think that there would be a job for the FSB border troops of the Russian Federation located in Armenia and at home ...

[Logall]

Only seven? Under my window, drunks gather in large numbers ... Against sobriety ...
Drop the article about this, please!

[210ox]

Alexander These are “hopeless fighters with the green serpent" .. And these Dashnaks are "ideological", although, like the "Sinegals", they are hopeless and not educated.

Quote: Logall

Only seven? Under my window, drunks gather in large numbers ... Against sobriety ...
Drop the article about this, please!

[Masya masya]

Quote: Logall

Only seven?

A mighty bunch, and a bunch of seven things ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Masya Masya

Quote: Logall

Only seven?

A mighty bunch, and a bunch of seven things ...

These seven little things, and with the money of such bloody business, can do it .. It has happened already!
No wonder they are trying to squeeze out the Russians .. (how many families in Asia and the Caucasus have gone nowhere) Now the military is alone and let it begin! Regret it ..
We won’t surrender Armenia ..

[Masya masya]

Quote: MIKHAN

These seven things, and with the money of such bloody business can do.

In the course of the miserly finances squeezed, only seven were enough ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Masya Masya

Quote: MIKHAN

These seven things, and with the money of such bloody business can do.

In the course of the miserly finances squeezed, only seven were enough ...

Clearly clamped ...! They didn’t even burn the Russian flag .. hehe Or the instinct of self-preservation worked!

[Masya masya]

Quote: MIKHAN

self-preservation instinct worked!

I'm not a coward, but I'm afraid...

[assa67]

what can I say, corrupt stuffed .... "reserve the right to take active protest" .... seven will get grandmothers from mattresses and go to protest ... no, they will go to a tavern and rejoice at how they lit up the merikos

[assa67]

and the shares themselves will result in shooting near the tavern

[x.andvlad]

We call on citizens of our country, social and political organizations and the media to unite efforts in the name of promoting the idea of ​​full restoration of the sovereignty of Armenia.
Apparently the idea of ​​full-fledged sovereignty like Ukraine or Georgia does not give rest to some Armenians.
First you need to urgently show the source of funding for these "screamers-champions of sovereignty."

[assa67]

Andrey, I completely agree .... although, you do not need to look far ... .... just remember the recent events in Iran ....

[BMP-2]

Andrei! And where to subscribe for the withdrawal of activists from the territory of Armenia? I am ready with two hands!

[anjey]

It is noted that the presence of Russian border guards in Armenia is almost a violation of Armenian sovereignty.

well, with such requirements, you will wait for the Turkish-Azerbaijani on their borders, like the ancient people like the Israelis-all the wise have already degenerated in our time, the ordinary ones remained ...

[BVS]

Russian border guards are involved in sections of the border of Armenia with Iran and Turkey - from the text.
And you - "wait for the Turkish-Azerbaijani on its borders." Where are the Azerbaijanis from?

[Metallurg_2]

Azerbaijanis are the same Turks)
Together with the Turks themselves, yes, they will provide such sovereignty there ...

[Russia]

They must close the road to Russia, maybe their minds will increase.

[Herculesic]

Then we will demand that all Armenian traders be withdrawn from our markets!

[rocket757]

Interesting idea!
Can we still think of sho?

[BVS]

And where does the border guards in Armenia? What is the connection?

[BMP-2]

So what is the connection between the Russian border guards and the sovereignty of Armenia ??? Or are they somehow miraculously preventing Armenia from pursuing an independent domestic and foreign policy ???

[BVS]

Why are they there? In Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan they are not there!

[BMP-2]

And by the way, yes: for starters, put a border guard at each merchant. With dog!

[Incvizitor]

Then I’m afraid that there will not be enough space in Armenia with such an influx of people ...

[vasilkovichi]

Here the Turks will be glad.

[Berber]

Your comment is the most correct. If we withdraw our troops, then Armenia and the state will not have.

[BMP-2]

But activists do not need a state. They need sovereignty!

[BVS]

In Kazakhstan, not Russian troops and Russian border guards either, but there is a state.

[BMP-2]

In the light of recent events, for how long?

[BVS]

Do you doubt the viability of the state of Kazakhstan? Do you have any supporting information for this, or do you just think so because of the simplicity of your soul?

[notingem]

When Nazarbayev will cease to be president I deeply doubt

[BVS]

And what do you think could happen to the state of Kazakhstan after leaving the current president? Fail in tartaras, drift to Latin America or join Uzbekistan?

[notingem]

Let's see what happens

[ZVladimir222]

- There is no state there! And it can’t be!
who told you that: "In Kazakhstan, not Russian troops and Russian border guards too"?
Have you forgotten about Sary-Shagan with Balkhash and Baikonur?
If there are no Russian troops in Kazakhstan today, tomorrow there will be Chinese!
Kazakhs are not oligophrenic and, unlike these seven Armenians, they understand this very well!

[BVS]

I did not forget about Sary-Shagan with Balkhash and Baikonur. In addition, the first had to serve in the Soviet years.
The Baikonur cosmodrome belongs to Roscosmos (a civilian agency, the military use Plesetsk), and the Russian military is not there, at least officially. Maybe a dozen plainclothes officers have pistols to protect secret papers.
The Russian missile defense test site Sary-Shagan does not have linear military units. There are only maintenance units of several hundred people.
There is a missile defense station on Balkhash, and even there is a whole company of its protection from local color pickers. As you know, it will not protect Kazakhstan from the Chinese.
There are no border guards of the Russian Federation in Kazakhstan!

[Berber]

Armenia and Kazakhstan. Two big differences. Kazakhstan is another problem. Now it is not so obvious, but it will be in the future. Pressure from cadres leads to degradation. For example, the introduction of the Latin alphabet.

[BVS]

And how is Latin harmful and why does it lead to degradation? In Kazakhstan, at the beginning of the last century, the alphabet was changed three times, and nothing.

[Berber]

Before the collapse of the USSR, Kazakhstan as a state did not exist. So what kind of state are you talking about at the beginning of the last century? But what is bad in Latin is that the layer of Russian culture that was fundamental before the collapse of the USSR was cut off. In short, you can forget about Pushkin, Lermontov and other Russian classics in the future. Because, to translate them into Kazakh and even in Latin, no one will. This is one argument. Is there some more.

[BVS]

"Before the collapse of the USSR, Kazakhstan as a state did not exist" -
There were republics within the USSR. Including Russian - on par with others.
"at the beginning of the last century" - from 1929 to 1940 the alphabet changed three times in the Kazakh SSR. Were - Arabic, Latin, Cyrillic.
And somehow the leadership of the USSR did not think about Pushkin.

[Berber]

The cities of Kazakhstan acquired their appearance thanks to the industrialization of the 30s. Before that, for the most part, they lived in yurts. Kazakhstan was practically pulled out of the Middle Ages. Modern Kazakh historians do not want to see this fact. Only the famine of 19-22, only nuclear tests and the ruined Aral Sea. All so that the younger generation hates Russians. As a result, you will return to yurts.

[BVS]

And the cities of Russia acquired their appearance due to which - Togliatti was absent before), Perm (was a trading store), Volgograd (destroyed during the Second World War), etc. All cities of the USSR acquired their appearance thanks to the industrialization of the 30s. Due to the hard labor of the Soviet people - Russians, Tatars, Ukrainians and Belarusians, Kyrgyz and Kazakhs.

[Berber]

That is precisely the work of all Soviet people. This is a time when all troubles and joys were common. And now everyone is trying to forget it. (The famine of the 20s was experienced not only in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, but also in Russia) And moreover, it was the Russians who bill it. Do you think this is fair? In my words, I am sure I myself lived in a national republic. And I know where nationalism leads to degradation. Latin is the first step. In Kazakhstan, there are many opponents of the transition to the Latin alphabet, but no one hears them. In a hurry to dissociate themselves from Russia. What happens will be shown by the future, but in my experience nothing good.

[BVS]

"Only the famine of 19-22, only nuclear tests and the ruined Aral." And is that not enough?

[Berber]

And what did they give in return? Few? About the Aral Sea I agree. And about the tests - radiophobia raised to the power. By the way, since you are a Slav, tell me about national patronage, when you are appointed to vacant posts in government agencies.

[Berber]

You can add that you do not need Russian literature. Just replace it? And how will this affect the future?

[BVS]

Literature we (I am Slavic) need world literature, including Russian, and Kazakh.

[BVS]

And why for Kazakhs, Russian literature should be a priority? There is world literature. Changes in the alphabet brought damage to any literature, including Kazakh.

[Berber]

Well, yes, multi-vector. No feeling de jou woo? We will step on the rake until the forehead is completely broken.

[urman]

assisting Armenian colleagues in guarding the country's borders.
It is noted that the presence of Russian border guards in Armenia is almost a violation of Armenian sovereignty. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
But do they want to maintain Armenian sovereignty,
so that Russia takes all Armenian citizens living on the territory of the RF AFTER 91 G back to their homeland, their mother7

[BVS]

And what, the presence of Russian border guards in the territory of Armenia somehow affects the friendship of the two peoples, political and economic relations, etc.? After all, in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan there are no Russian border guardsand nothing, and no one offers to bring all the citizens of Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan "living in the territory of the Russian Federation AFTER 91 G back to their Motherland, Their Mother." Why a different approach?

[urman]

But after all, no one there suggested that during the time of the cracking ground in Spitak,
Haha, experts came from Russia, (although before the fig they were from KUBAN) I still remember this lady, defender of Armenian culture!
Well, where are they now? Everything in Russia, gnaw stones!
And we have, the so-called Russian Armenians, with whom we are connected with a hundred years and more history !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Servisinzhener]

Armenian citizens or Russian citizens who received citizenship after 91 years, before living in the Armenian SSR and having a Soviet passport?

[Evil 55]

Cognac ate ​​or something .. or forgot April 23, 1915 ...

[flicker]

Seven, albeit Armenian, albeit activists could not reflect the opinion of the whole people

[SCHMEL]

7 Armenian "activists"

The Russian edition of Forbes magazine published a rating of “200 richest businessmen of Russia in 2017”, which included seven businessmen of Armenian origin. Coincidence?

[garnik]

One of them built at his own expense a stadium in Krasnodar, which will not pay off even during the life of his children (daughter), he said. Not counting children's football schools.

[APASUS]

Quote: garnik

One of them built at his own expense a stadium in Krasnodar, which will not pay off even during the life of his children (daughter), he said. Not counting children's football schools.

Stadiums, in principle, can’t pay off, it’s such a specificity, so this is why they often build multidisciplinary complexes for exhibitions, performances by artists and fairs. With this use, the building pays for itself at the time of demolition

[SCHMEL]

Quote: garnik

One of them built at his own expense a stadium in Krasnodar, which will not pay off even during the life of his children (daughter), he said. Not counting children's football schools.

Club president and became an investor, this is not a secret The Germans designed, built the Turks. The stadium of the highest category FIFA. And what money to regret, if only the memory remained kind, and there are no pockets in the coffin

[Servisinzhener]

He also ennobled the area around and built the park near the stadium. Thank you very much for that! And it’s hardly worth talking about payback here. I doubt that it was built for profit. For profit, it was more efficient to build more stores.

[Hadji Murat]

Albert Baghdasaryan, Arman Melikyan, David Sanasaryan, Yeghishe Petrosyan, Karapet Rubinyan, Hovsep Khurshudyan, Petros Makeyan what should they do now? Armenians do not want to embed them in full?

[Lekxnumx]

Hahah it's just a tin read comments!
Some kind of news came out, any negative about any former post-Soviet country.
At VO begins a howl, the same howl for all occasions, we deduce your merchants, migrants)))
That’s the contingent of military personnel in person, but in general these are the words of a simple Russian inhabitant.
A layman in the Russian Federation can automatically be ranked as a victim of Kiselev, Solovyov.
Exactly the same Russians destroyed the Soviet Union, and continue to destroy it.
So much so that you begin to disdain everything that is connected with Russia.
Citizens of his great mother by the foot of the state, in any incident with neighbors threaten to expel migrants))
Well, how can one be so stupid, but for ten years they have been expelling these migrants.
And those who stayed for the opportunity to work are paid to your state, others have received citizenship.
How can you frighten what your organs have been doing for many years? Why are you so impenetrable?))
Yes, the problem of fools and roads in Russia is unsolvable.

[BMP-2]

Lek (sandr)? Do not you think that calling people stupid, expecting them to grow wiser from this, is not at all what could be called wise behavior?

[Lekxnumx]

Seems to agree with you! But as they say, what contingent are such and topics for conversation.
At VO, any alternative opinion is met with bayonets. Comments on any topic confirm this.

[BMP-2]

Quote: Lek38

what contingent are such and topics for conversation. At VO, any alternative opinion is met with bayonets. Comments on any topic confirm this.

This conclusion seems to me too global and somewhat hasty. Of course, you are right, the contingent chooses those topics that interest him. However, there is still such a thing as the effect of self-fulfilling prophecies: everyone finds confirmation of what he considers to be true! It is clear that often - this is very far from reality ... Take, for example, the section of the Armament site - there, how can Kiselev’s influence be affected?
And about the “non-perception” of alternative opinions - well, everything is simple here: in general, it all depends on what purpose a person sets himself. Some just want to speak out. Others want to be heard. Well, therefore, the choice of words in the former is strikingly different from the latter.

[Lekxnumx]

Maybe it’s exaggerated, but the expected reaction from the environment, the phenomenon has become a regularity, I don’t argue with that. The question arises: what’s the reason? I can say my version, even voice the version of these opponents in advance, it’s predictable. ,same .
A well-educated society whose worldview cannot well be the same unless you draw information exclusively from one source.
Again, I can say exaggeratedly, from my experience I do not know the second people who live in their stereotypes created as the Russians do.
This can be checked on the same resource. The Baltic states are such Ukrainians, such Caucasians and so on and so forth.
Sorry, I'm on your site, and I will behave appropriately, that is, generalize. In other resources, I often defend you, but begin to rethink my position.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Lekxnumx In other resources, I often defend you, but begin to rethink my position.

Here we are all going to cry now from such a rethinking of you ..

[BMP-2]

expected reaction from the environment, the phenomenon has acquired a pattern with this I think do not argue

Argue? What for? Will we be happier if I prove that you are wrong? I think it’s unlikely. Therefore, I repeat: no matter how sad, but everyone sees only what he wants to see ... Of course, I did not attend ALL available resources, but of those that I saw, this one impresses me more. This is not a news site, with claims for operational coverage of everything and everything, although there is news. This is not an online encyclopedia, with claims to absolute truth, although there is a lot of cognitive here. This is not a smoking room, where it is customary to say "for life", but you can find out the opinions of others on various pressing issues here.

Regarding the “sameness” of upbringing and worldview, well ... because a society only then becomes a society when it has something the same. This same is called "values." Culture is built on values. Values ​​determine the attitude towards everything around, including the perception of what is considered good and what is evil, what is funny, and what is threatening ...

And on the account of “the Balts, Ukrainians, Caucasians,” you are right here, these are really stereotypes. In fact, of course, they are all very different. And those who for some reason forget it are here on the website about this from time to time.
But these are such trifles, if you remember why you go to this site at all.

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: BMP-2

Argue? What for? Will we be happier if I prove that you are wrong? I think it’s unlikely. Therefore, I repeat: no matter how sad, but everyone sees only what he wants to see ... Of course, I did not attend ALL available resources, but of those that I saw, this one impresses me more. This is not a news site, with claims for operational coverage of everything and everything, although there is news. This is not an online encyclopedia, with claims to absolute truth, although there is a lot of cognitive here. This is not a smoking room, where it is customary to say "for life", but you can find out the opinions of others on various pressing issues here.

Having written my words, to be honest, I didn’t think at all of answering to someone. But I answered you, precisely because there was no dispute in the plans. As you put it, this dispute is not grateful for the sake of the argument. My words are addressed not specifically to the content published by VO (although this is also there is a place to be places) and the administration. And to readers like me, that is, to the consumer. At VO I get a lot of information that is interesting to me, even if I don’t comment, I will read it every day.

Quote: BMP-2

Regarding the “sameness” of upbringing and worldview, well ... because a society only then becomes a society when it has something the same. This same is called "values." Culture is built on values. Values ​​determine the attitude to everything around, including the perception of what is considered good and what is evil, what is funny and what is threatening ..

I don’t agree, perhaps, not the best qualities of Russian society cannot be shared values. The values ​​of Russian society are all your fairy tales full of justice that bring up children. Your classics you gave to the world and so on. And modern society brought up by certain stereotypes, and they have already been raised by a bacchanalia around us all. A situation that has opened the hands of villains of all stripes and all peoples. It has led to the fact that we have stopped even listening to each other, images have already been created for us. As on the one hand, on the other.
A difficult conversation, but its opportunity is already pleasing, not everything is lost.

Quote: BMP-2

But these are such trifles, if you remember why you go to this site at all.

To purely draw information from my sphere of interest, but I will rarely comment.

[BMP-2]

Yes, the current value system can hardly be called perfect. And justice in it does not yet occupy the top of the hierarchy. But this does not mean that it cannot be otherwise: everything flows, everything changes, and everyone in this stream is part of the changes ...
In principle, the first two years I wasn’t even registered on the site: I just went in and read what was written. Then it turned out that it was much more interesting and more useful not only to receive information, but also to clarify, find understanding of others and better understand oneself.
Good people only have a chance to defeat villains when they cease to be locked in themselves. So, do not limit your possibilities, even if they seem to be stereotypes.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Lekxnumx But as they say, what contingent are such and topics for conversation.

In the hospital where you are lying, the topics for discussion are determined by the doctors, and here the editors of the site, that’s the whole difference ....
Publish your article on this site, i.e. revive the audience ...

[uranium]

In Armenia, there have always been sentiments against Russia. So the news is not new))

[garnik]

Do not confuse with the so-called. Azerbaijan. Moods against Russia appeared after the sale of their ally weapons to the enemy. And such moods are only in affiliates of the usa. In the people you can hardly find such people.

[Zaurbek]

Do Armenians have any complaints against the Russian Federation? There are always some kind of nationalists telling something .... It seems to me that their genes should have a memory of both Turks and Persians ....

[HAM]

All these "activists", most likely, drive their cars with Armenian flags on a dashboard somewhere in the Kuban, Stavropol or Rostov.
Motherland-Armenia must be loved from afar, and even there they can be called up for the army ...

[Zaurbek]

I’m from Krasnodar .... we’ll drive ours and the Russian Federation, they won’t leave ....

[Servisinzhener]

We know these anti-Russian activists. Also European oriented. It’s only convenient to choose the European path when you have a border with it and there is no border with countries in which, to put it mildly, hostility. And then after a break with Russia, it may turn out that the Armenian border guards are not needed. After all, why are they on the Turkish-Azerbaijani border.

[garnik]

In general, thanks to everyone who commented on me. Honestly, nice to read, sober judgments. It would be necessary to have these seven in the trenches on the border with the so-called Azerbaijan.
I think the problem is that on the Meghra section of the border with Iran, they created a free economic zone, and the paperwork, and not only, is dragging out due to the presence of joint Russian-Armenian border crossings. I think all this is solved.

[Yujanin.]

on the Meghra section of the border with Iran, created a free economic zone

I wonder which clever man managed to create an economic zone in a besieged country.

[K-50]

Eh, on the back would ask them, for whose money and under whose tune "banquet". Although of course everything is clear, it’s better to ask on the rack.

[japs]

And yet, it seems to me that a thermal-rectal cryptanalyzer is better than a rack, more reliable.
The results will be more complete. Mattress and Turkish liaisons, curators, appearances, accounts and manuals ...

[FLOOD]

Quote: MIKHAN

Quote: Sauron80

But then they themselves will come running - “Russia, save and save”, well, those who survive will certainly run, not only everything, few can do it.

So this handful counts on it, to set the fire on fire to drive Russia in and topple to the west .. Everything follows the pattern!

Duc is not about this bunch of thinking, but a vast mass ...

[Zaurbek]

There is the largest US embassy in the CIS ... if you dig up all kinds of thinkers will be great ... and the Russian Federation is the enemy for them - that’s the mystery. And the same song with the Georgians ... When the Turks start cutting (and this is in their blood), here we listen to the songs ...

[garnik]

And what prevents Russia from expanding its embassy in Armenia twice as much across the territory.

“The Caucasian peoples should treat the Russian people with understanding, taking into account that the Russian soldiers protected them from the invasion of the barbarians. Ganja incident leads to sad thoughts. This is not the way to treat the sons of Russia, who have shed their blood in our mountains for three years of struggle. The Russian people should not turn their backs on the traditional course of their fathers, forget about the blood shed by their fathers and grandfathers in the Caucasus Mountains ... In the Caucasus, all-Russian statehood should be preserved ... ”
Andranik Ozanyan is a hero revered by all Armenians.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

garnik
And what prevents Russia from expanding its embassy in Armenia twice as much across the territory.

A large embassy is being built where there are joint economic projects. Have you heard something about Russian-Armenian economic projects? Me not. Armenia drank all its enterprises of the Russian Federation for debts, therefore it is not capable of anything now ...

“The Caucasian peoples should treat the Russian people with understanding, taking into account that the Russian soldiers protected them from the invasion of the barbarians. Ganja incident leads to sad thoughts. This is not the way to treat the sons of Russia, who have shed their blood in our mountains for three years of struggle. The Russian people should not turn their backs on the traditional course of their fathers, forget about the blood shed by their fathers and grandfathers in the Caucasus Mountains ... In the Caucasus, all-Russian statehood should be preserved ... ”

Finish blasphemy. RI / USSR twice freed the Balkans, now they are almost all in NATO ...
Sooner or later, the United States will create Kurdistan in BV (of course, at the expense of part of the territory of Turkey, the SAR, Iran and Iraq), which will join NATO, then we’ll see who else Armenia wants to throw out of the foreign military from its territory ....

[garnik]

A large embassy is being built where there are joint economic projects. Have you heard something about Russian-Armenian economic projects? Me not. Armenia drank all its enterprises of the Russian Federation for debts, therefore it is not capable of anything now ...

So, do Armenians have joint projects with America? I did not know.
Armenia incurs debts to compensate for the weapons that the union state sells to the enemy its strategic partner in the other and in the near future. That is why it is necessary to sell its enterprises. Unfortunately, there is no oil and gas in Armenia.

Finish blasphemy. RI / USSR twice freed the Balkans, now they are almost all in NATO ...

And why did you get the idea that it smells of blasphemy here. These are the words of the Armenian commander said in the 20s of the 20th century.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

garnik So you have to sell your enterprises. Unfortunately in Armenia there is no oil and gas.

"Poor orphans." Already a tear struck. Why did he borrow it so that then they would have to repay the enterprises (or would they count on a freebie, like during the Union?), Maybe if they borrowed from the USA / EU, would they forgive everyone?

then the words of the Armenian commander said in the 20 years of the 20 century.

At that time, he could not say otherwise; such words were in the interests of Armenia ...

Solzhenitsyn notes that there were eight Russian-Turkish wars: four in the eighteenth and four in the nineteenth century. He writes: “Two unfortunate ideas relentlessly tormented and dragged all our rulers in a row: to help-save the Christians of Transcaucasia and to help-save the Orthodox in the Balkans. You can recognize the height of these moral principles, but not to the complete loss of state meaning and to oblivion of the needs of their own, also Christian, people ... ”

http://inosmi.ru/history/20110505/169100086.html

[garnik]

"Poor orphans." Already a tear struck. Why did he borrow it so that then they would have to repay the enterprises (or would they count on a freebie, like during the Union?), Maybe if they borrowed from the USA / EU, would they forgive everyone?

An imposed arms race.

At that time, he could not say otherwise; such words were in the interests of Armenia ...

Armenia has never treacherously treated Russia.

As far as I know, there were at least eleven wars with Turkey. You still quote him about the North Caucasus, where he proposed to leave from there. Yes, I also wrote like that. In the wars with Turkey for Christian Armenia, Russia surrendered part of the land never belonging to Turkey.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

garnik An imposed arms race.

By whom? Is it not the Russian Federation by chance?

Yes, I also wrote like that. In the wars with Turkey for Christian Armenia, Russia surrendered part of the land never belonging to Turkey.

Firstly, it was the same with the Bolsheviks in the 20s and not only Armenia, but also Georgia ...

[FLOOD]

Quote: Herkulesich

Then we will demand that all Armenian traders be withdrawn from our markets!

What other merchants ?! They have all the politicians, professors and, in general, Russia is holding onto them mother! And only our traders

[Cheldon]

Armenians got into power and central television. Menshov did not even want to announce the winner, but threw the envelope on the floor ("Bastards" of the Armenian producer). Like some historical poppycock, the Armenian producer.

[savage]

Quote: Lek38

Exactly the same Russians destroyed the Soviet Union, and continue to destroy it.

I completely agree that the leadership of the then Russia was guilty for the destroyed Union, but this howl about the expulsion of all migrants has already got it, this is your payment for the alliance. As soon as they are sent out, there is a 100% chance that Central Asia will fall under China, and he will force them to introduce a visa regime with Russia so that they do not have illusions about the restoration of their previous relations. You probably want to have “friendly” republics along the perimeter of your borders, such as Ukraine?

[MOSKVITYANIN]

savage I completely agree, the leadership of the then Russia is guilty for the destroyed Union

Well, in your opinion, it’s guilty, but my leadership of the RF then needed to put a cast-iron monument at the station, did a good deed, ruined the Union and saved the RSFSR from parasites (the RSFSR and the BSSR were always funded worse than the rest of the republics), the freebie ended like you ....

but this howl about the expulsion of all migrants, already got it, this is your payment for the alliance

What is the alliance of Armenia in the framework of the CSTO? Armenian military contingents led by the United States traveled to Iraq and Afghanistan, but I did not hear something about the military contingents from Armenia to the SAR, South Ossetia and Abkhazia (in the 08.08.08 war), during the period of aggravation of the situation on Afghan-Tajik border in the 90's and zero years?
With such allies and enemies it is not necessary ....

As soon as they are sent out, 100% chance that Central Asia will fall under China

They are doomed to this, because The Russian Federation has no joint economic projects with any of these countries of the former USSR, and it is not going to develop there (except Kazakhstan) in the next 1 000 years ...

he will force the introduction of a visa regime with Russia so that they do not have illusions about the restoration of their former relations

What the hell (even the United States is not beneficial for Ukraine to introduce a visa regime with the Russian Federation)? RF, EU for the PRC is the market for their goods and services, and the former Soviet Central Asia is the "gateway", the PRC is still the fate of the people living on this "gateway" ....

You probably want to have “friendly” republics such as Ukraine along the perimeter of your borders?

The border of the Russian Federation is on fire, and in those places where it borders on the former "brothers" ...
Sooner or later, a revolution will break out in Armenia, during which they will sweep away the natives of their Nagorno-Karabakh who have sat up in power, Azerbaijan will take back the NK under this matter, at this moment it is better for the Russian Federation to have as few of its soldiers in Armenia as possible in Armenia ..

[garnik]

Sooner or later, a revolution will break out in Armenia, during which they will sweep away the natives of their Nagorno-Karabakh who have sat up in power, Azerbaijan will take back the NK under this matter, at this moment it is better for the Russian Federation to have as few of its soldiers in Armenia as possible in Armenia ..

A revolution in Armenia may happen with inadequate concessions in Artsakh. It does not depend on who comes to power. Well, if your wish comes true, then it will become expedient to find a Russian base in Armenia. So far, by the efforts of the Bolsheviks, Armenia has only decreased in size.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

garnik Well, if your wish comes true

I don’t have such a desire and in none of my comments do I have this (all the more it’s not profitable for the Russian Federation), however, it is inevitable with the stagnation of the development of Armenia.

then it will be expedient to find a Russian base in Armenia

The WB of the Russian Federation in Armenia does not affect the domestic political situation in Armenia, but it can be a bargaining chip in the hands of Armenian politicians. Russia has signed with Armenia for a very long time (with the possibility of extension) an agreement on joint defense of Armenia, which the Russian Federation received in return, nothing. The Russian Federation dragged Armenia to the EAC (everyone understands that Armenia has been ordered the way to the EU and NATO), why should Armenia, together with Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, be able to get loans from the bank at the EAC?

So far, by the efforts of the Bolsheviks, Armenia has only decreased in size.

The RSFSR lost the most in the territories. And the comrades from Georgia and Azerbaijan would not agree with your statement, as part of their land is now part of Armenia ...

[FLOOD]

Quote: Evil 55

Cognac ate ​​or something .. or forgot April 23, 1915 ...

There was no April 1915! They hung all the noodles about the so-called genocide. If there was genocide, then there would be at least 3000 burials of 500 people each (claim 1 killed). Let them show the world 500 such graves. Turkey has repeatedly proposed to publish archival materials of those times, the Armenian side has always refused. So why???

[Butchcassidy]

The state position of modern Russia as a state is determined by the statement of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation “On the condemnation of the genocide of the Armenian people in the 1915 — 1922 years” of April 14 1995

Earlier in the joint Declaration of May 24, 1915, allied countries (Great Britain, France and Russia), the mass killings of Armenians were for the first time in history recognized as a crime against humanity.

So your position is marginal and is determined solely by the inability to recognize your own story.

[Cheldon]

Quote: ButchCassidy

The state position of modern Russia as a state is determined by the statement of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation “On the condemnation of the genocide of the Armenian people in the 1915 — 1922 years” of April 14 1995

Earlier in the joint Declaration of May 24, 1915, allied countries (Great Britain, France and Russia), the mass killings of Armenians were for the first time in history recognized as a crime against humanity.
So your position is marginal and is determined solely by the inability to recognize your own story.

When the war is on and all the men are at the front, and suddenly some guys in the rear took advantage of this and decided to realize their claims to the territory, I think few people like it. I had to remove the troops and pacify the rebels. I do not justify anyone.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Butchcassidy
The state position of modern Russia as a state is determined by the statement of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation “On the condemnation of the genocide of the Armenian people in the 1915 — 1922 years” of April 14 1995

your position is marginal and determined solely by your inability to recognize your own story

With the collapse of the Union of the Russian Federation, Crimea was also recognized as Ukrainian territory, so let's not be smart, in our country the history is always with an unpredictable past ....

[garnik]

Where are the Armenians? Where are the Assyrians? Where are the Greeks? And finally, the Russians?
Mostly Christians remained in Constantinople. The Turks had to save their face before the world, although there were pogroms there.
The archives were raised in the Vatican, after which he recognized the genocide. Or do you want to open archives in Turkey?

[bald]

I have about three hundred acquaintances in Armenia and many of them are servicemen. And no one has ever been against the presence of the Russian Armed Forces in Armenia, all for nothing! They understand that if there are no Russians there, they will simply be devoured. The Armenians - of the peasant faith, in a circle of turbulent Islam, Georgia did not count - were sold to the states.

[FLOOD]

The old song, as it is, will immediately include in the repertoire ...

[Zaurbek]

... fearless stupid people.

[garnik]

This is a consequence of the sale of weapons to you.

And yours for what with "love" belong to Russia. Probably did not wait for the second time forcible transfer of Ar.tsakh to the embrace of the "tolerant" so-called Azerbaijan.

[Servisinzhener]

The question is how widespread this position is. A dozen other people can be collected for anything, especially in a large city. Even for the transition of Azerbaijan to the ideas of Juche But such a demand will have a marginal number of supporters.
But at the same time, taking a similar photo and disseminating it in the media, we get that Azerbaijan supports North Korea.

[FLOOD]

Quote: bald

I have about three hundred acquaintances in Armenia and many of them are servicemen. And no one has ever been against the presence of the Russian Armed Forces in Armenia, all for nothing! They understand that if there are no Russians there, they will simply be devoured. The Armenians - of the peasant faith, in a circle of turbulent Islam, Georgia did not count - were sold to the states.

Yeah, Christian .. Islam is restless and Georgia is corrupt ...

[Sergeant71]

Quote: anjey

It is noted that the presence of Russian border guards in Armenia is almost a violation of Armenian sovereignty.

well, with such requirements, you will wait for the Turkish-Azerbaijani on their borders, like the ancient people like the Israelis-all the wise have already degenerated in our time, the ordinary ones remained ...

They didn’t degenerate, but they moved to Russia to trade on every corner and talk on languages ​​on talk shows. It is much more comfortable for us to fight with Azerbaijan, and most importantly safer.

[Servisinzhener]

We have no less than Azerbaijani vegetable dealers. And I see nothing wrong with that.

[FLOOD]

Quote: ButchCassidy

The state position of modern Russia as a state is determined by the statement of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation “On the condemnation of the genocide of the Armenian people in the 1915 — 1922 years” of April 14 1995

Earlier in the joint Declaration of May 24, 1915, allied countries (Great Britain, France and Russia), the mass killings of Armenians were for the first time in history recognized as a crime against humanity.

So your position is marginal and is determined solely by the inability to recognize your own story.

Well, firstly, this is not my own story. Secondly, State Duma Statements and Declarations of Europeans will be worthy of attention when the same documents are adopted with respect to the permissible Indians of America, the Rochinas in Myanmar or Algerians. You are like the smartest or the most objective ...

[Incvizitor]

I've been seeing all sorts of "Ramziks" (there are a lot of such people on the network, by the way) sometimes I think maybe they can remove the bases? Well, let their Turks and Azerbaijan endure, they’re tired already ...

[BVS]

Ukraine did not expel Russian bases from Crimea on time, and Crimea decided.

[Dormidont]

And the blame for the soft-bodied Stalin, who did not hang Bandera all to one

[BVS]

Do you miss the USSR of Stalinist times? There is only one question - who would YOU be at that time? After all, many were both camp guards and prisoners in those camps. And now it’s hard to predict who would be hung, maybe you. Good luck to you!

[Incvizitor]

Ukraine did not expel pi.dosov from the Maidan in 2014. and Ukraine lost.

[Assyrian]

Quote: bvs

Ukraine did not expel Russian bases from Crimea on time, and Crimea decided.

If it had not lost Crimea, Ukraine would no longer be.

[bald]

But there, not only they can climb - for America, a fresh field, to foment another conflict, with the help of his geek - terrorists.

[Dormidont]

All Judas always end badly

[unignm]

when neighbors knock, don’t yell.

[TsUS-Air Force]

I remember in Afghanistan there was also a Peshawar seven. 7 Muslims as if now called radical terrorist parties

[Cheldon]

YEREVAN, January 16, 2018, 21:49 - REGNUM A rally of students from Syria was held near the building of the Russian Embassy in Armenia on January 16. They expressed gratitude to Russia for facilitating peace in Syria.

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The action participants prepared a letter in which, in particular, it was noted: “On behalf of the Syrian students who study in Armenia, we express our gratitude to the President, the army, the people of Syria and all those who defended the Syrian people, while assessing their will to confront terrorist acts. Today we have gathered here to express our gratitude to the President of Russia Vladimir Putin, the Russian people, who throughout history had special relations with the people of Syria. All this time, Moscow was next to Damascus, both on the diplomatic front and on the battlefield, waging a struggle against international terrorism. We thank the friendly Russian Federation for the continued assistance to Syria. Glory to you, glory to the victorious Syria! ”

[Artyom1979]

The most reasonable solution is to shave these seven and send them to guard the border.

[Servisinzhener]

Send to Turkey. Turkey, after all, has been assassinated with the EU, let them learn from the experience of preparing for EU accession.

[rocket757]

Quote: Lek38

Hahah it's just a tin read comments!
Some kind of news came out, any negative about any former post-Soviet country.
At VO begins a howl, the same howl for all occasions, we deduce your merchants, migrants)))
That’s the contingent of military personnel in person, but in general these are the words of a simple Russian inhabitant.
A layman in the Russian Federation can automatically be ranked as a victim of Kiselev, Solovyov.
Exactly the same Russians destroyed the Soviet Union, and continue to destroy it.
So much so that you begin to disdain everything that is connected with Russia.
Citizens of his great mother by the foot of the state, in any incident with neighbors threaten to expel migrants))
Well, how can one be so stupid, but for ten years they have been expelling these migrants.
And those who stayed for the opportunity to work are paid to your state, others have received citizenship.
How can you frighten what your organs have been doing for many years? Why are you so impenetrable?))
Yes, the problem of fools and roads in Russia is unsolvable.

Fine?
He went into VO, looked around, with a proud look he lifted his nose higher and gave out -Why are you such and such Russians?
Trying to figure it out, understand why here, and many more where, happens just like that ... well, no way, why? The brand hung, as he spat, and so far, the friendship of peoples in such a great country of the USSR has been forgotten and buried forever !!!
There somewhere in the subject is your compatriot uranium gave out - In Armenia, there have always been sentiments against Russia. So the news is not new))
And why actually? Can you think why this was written in and who needs it?

[Labor]

30 pieces of silver probably don't smell

[rocket757]

Unfortunately, the game goes abruptly !!!
On the strings of the soul they play, nationalism, patriotism, itself ..... in short, at all, not fools, however, started all this. Yes, and our leaders behave like .... not writing down, I can’t express it in any other way!
In short, we lose on all fronts !!! We would have cheated, there would have been a commander, the leader of whom we believe and rushed forward, not the first time !!!
And now he is our main question for today - WHO WILL TAKE US FORWARD ?????????????????

[abrakadabre]

From the published “appeal” of the mentioned activists who did not report which organization they represent

And what is there to report? Here it is already clear what the US Department of State represents. It's not just ears sticking out. and just the same ear Everests.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

I believe that such comrades are useful for the Russian Federation, our border guards should have been withdrawn from there for a long time, but this should not be started from the Armenian-Iranian border, but from the Turkish-Armenian ...

[garnik]

Well, the Americans will come, but do you need it?
There is an interview with the ex-director of the NBA of Armenia. In the 90 years, during the active phase of the war in Arzakh, one of the senior Turkish generals contacted an American colleague and asked for permission to cross the Armenian border for the purpose of intimidation. the American warned that they would deal with Russia, the Turk convinced that he would agree with the Russian leadership, then you will deal with us, the answer is from the Amer general. This was at the level of the chiefs of staff of the two armies.
Sometimes reading such comments as yours, you increasingly believe that a repeat of the situation of the 20s can be expected.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

garnik There is an interview with the ex-director of the NBA of Armenia. In 90 during the active phase of the war in Ar.tsakh, one of the senior Turkish generals contacted an American colleague and asked for permission to cross the Armenian border for the sake of intimidation. the American warned that they would deal with Russia, the Turk convinced that he would agree with the Russian leadership, then you will deal with us, the answer is from the Amer general. This was at the level of chiefs of staff of two armies.

Figured it out myself?

Sometimes reading comments like yours

And you do not read. For me, the interests of the Russian Federation are more important than the interests of Armenia, it’s just not familiar to you ....
Armenia for the Russian Federation is primarily an outpost in the Caucasus (although after Abkhazia and South Ossetia became independent states, it no longer has the strategic role that it had after the withdrawal of the GRVZ from Georgia), land, radar posts, caponiers, air defense posts, airdrome, etc. .d., and not some kind of sacred land with a friendly population, which had to be protected by any means, this was the case under the USSR ....
The only reason I would go to fight for Armenia against NATO or the Persians is only because once the Armenians stood to death near Volokolamsk and Smolensk defending my Moscow ... from the Germans ...

[garnik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSlg-3wy9dU

Mistaken in the post of Turkish general. Although I largely disagree what has been voiced in this video.
Well, if you do not give a damn about the interests of strategic allies, then I don’t know what to answer, probably this attitude should be expected for yourself.
Thank you for the desire to defend Armenia in the future, only Armenians have one enemy, Turkey.

[Brut]

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

For me, the interests of the Russian Federation are more important than the interests of Armenia, it’s just not familiar to you ....

And this is correct, just as for me, the interests of Armenia are more important than the interests of the Russian Federation.
Just why is it not familiar to us? We are very used to it. It was in your interests to sell modern, offensive weapons to our neighbor, and you were selling. And we are used to it.

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

and not some sacred land with a friendly population that had to be protected by any means, it was like that under the USSR ....

Well, under the USSR, this land was the USSR itself, i.e. The USSR defended itself.
And the land, indeed, is not sacred, but ordinary, mountainous, but the population is friendly, at least until April 2016, 80% of the population were Russophiles (I hope the word is correct). But I do not believe that the Russian Federation does not have any interests in Armenia and holds here a base of sincere kindness to protect a friendly population.

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

garnik There is an interview with the ex-director of the NBA of Armenia. In 90 during the active phase of the war in Ar.tsakh, one of the senior Turkish generals contacted an American colleague and asked for permission to cross the Armenian border for the sake of intimidation. the American warned that they would deal with Russia, the Turk convinced that he would agree with the Russian leadership, then you will deal with us, the answer is from the Amer general. This was at the level of chiefs of staff of two armies.
Figured it out myself?

Well, maybe myself. And if not? At least the Turks do not climb to the Syrian Kurds, where there are mattresses, about ten people (exaggerated).

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

Russia has signed with Armenia for a very long time (with the possibility of extension) an agreement on joint defense of Armenia, which the Russian Federation received in return, nothing. Russia dragged Armenia to the EAC (everyone understands that Armenia has been ordered the way to the EU and NATO), why should Armenia, together with Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, be able to get loans from the bank at the EAC?

Maybe got the opportunity to obstruct the Iranian pipe? Indeed, many local commentators note that the Russian Federation entered Syria (suffered material and human losses) in order to prevent the Qatari pipe.
As for the EU. Armenia, even as a member of the EAC, has signed an agreement with the EU.

[Zomanus]

Armenian grant eaters.
The beginning of the next "spring"?

[ZVladimir222]

- Well, then, they must be made clear to them: "Of course, we will get it out." Erdogan is our "good friend." We will first promise him (as in 1918 - 1920, another 15 percent of Armenia (to choose a strategically important piece for us), in addition to Kars, and also Karabakh to Azerbaijan.
But only in this way: he - leaves NATO, then - (together with Azerbaijan) sends troops to all of Armenia for two weeks, we - do not interfere, close ALL borders for refugees (let Georgia accept). And after 14 days, the troops are withdrawn (so that we do not begin the operation of "peace enforcement"). A piece of Armenia in 15% is left to him.
We draw up everything in writing with him and Azerbaijan and go ahead.
The whole plan should be recognized in Armenia. Maybe they then shut up their mouths (better - with the ground) to these "activists" with Swiss accounts and American passports?

[garnik]

Tigran, are you an accomplice of a provocateur?

[Brut]

Quote: ZVladimir222

And after 14 days, the troops are withdrawn (so that we do not begin the operation of "peace enforcement")

And after your downed, combat aircraft, what operation did you start?

[weddu]

Historian Vladimir Makhnach.
Excerpt from the lecture “Results of the revolution”. House of Culture "Meridian", Moscow. 28.03.2001/XNUMX/XNUMX.

I will give you a fun digital. The first commissars, according to the calculation of the American intelligence officer, were 1918 in 386. For commissars of all ranks this is still not a very big bureaucracy. How many Russians do you think were among them? There were 13. There were 386 Russians at 13 commissars! Well, there were more than three hundred, everyone here understands, is not it? But mind you, the Chinese were 15! And there were 2 Negro commissars. There were more Chinese. There were more Armenians. There were 22 commissars of the Armenian. Of course, there were more Latvians. I would like to say something in favor of the Muslims. I often say this to students. When you think about Islam in Russia and about our Muslims in particular, remember that the Russians participated in the revolution, the Georgians and Armenians participated more, the Magyars, Latvians and Lithuanians even more. In addition, the Magyars were criminals, all completely foreign legionaries who did not make a revolution at home! And for this it’s legal even to plant or burn alive. And I’ll even keep silent about the Jews. But can you tell me offhand the revolutionary of a Muslim? Not? And no one can remember. I can remember Mahach, and there are a few more. But it’s true that you are lost and you can’t remember right away. You won’t find it right away.

Question from the listener: “What about the Baku commissioners?”

Answer: For 26 Baku commissioners, among the crowd of Armenians and Jews, one Turk was congregated for a percentage. Then Azerbaijanis were more often called Turks.

[Assyrian]

I read all the comments. I wonder how easy it is that 7 renegades pitted people. A slight provocation was enough to immediately spill out all the misunderstandings that exist in relations between different peoples. Those who gave them manuals on this and counted.
It is sad that so many members of the forum bought this burp.
Is it really so easy to solve the feat of tens of thousands of Russians in Transcaucasia and Persia? Or thousands of Armenians with their heads folded from the Volga to Berlin?
Destroy is very easy, difficult to create.

[garnik]

And what was bad written by the Assyrian brother.

[Assyrian]

Baptized. What don't you like?
By the way. Read the history of the baptism of Armenians, there is also a lot of interesting things.

[Assyrian]

Quote: Tigran Mazmanyan

about there are your ancestors who survived from the consequences of changing the ethno-confessional balance committed by the "co-religionists" by stuffing three mill. Muhajirs in OI were admitted to the Republic of Ingushetia only on condition of baptism, and you are proud of it ..

Gapon became a household name. But surely in Armenian history there was its own “Gapon” (unfortunately I don’t know the name), because this is a phenomenon.
Acting provocateurs on behalf of the Armenians did a fair job and achieved a certain result on this thread. Alas.
History must be taken in all its shades. Learn the lessons. TO BE Proud of their ancestors and to live according to CONSCIENCE.
That something like this.

[garnik]

Acting provocateurs on behalf of the Armenians did a fair job and achieved a certain result on this thread. Alas.

You just noticed. There is no such Armenian who could or would like to expose the Assyrians in an unsightly state, as well as the opposite. Tigran is more likely a werewolf.

[Assyrian]

Quote: garnik

Tigran is more likely a werewolf.

I understand this (specialization "Revolutionary and counter-revolutionary activity on the territory of neighboring states"). It is sad that many bought into a provocation.

[Assyrian]

When working with poison, it is easy to poison yourself.

[Seraphimamur]

And instead of the Russians, introduce the Turkish border guards!

[Marconi41]

The quality of articles on the site is getting worse and worse. Bloopers one by one. Even in this simple article and then ... No border troops in Russia have long existed. There is a service, and this is far from the same thing.
Well, if you undertook to write an article, so see what you write about.

[BVS]

Actually, the article and comments wrote about border guardsand not about the border troops. So watch what you write about.

[rocket757]

They got it! It squeezed out!

[garnik]

Do not be like local provocateurs. You only set your comments against the Armenians with your comments. Unless of course you are interested in this.
In the Ottoman Empire, all Christians were banned from wearing until 1908. And the fact that Armenians fought in large numbers for other states does not benefit Armenia from this.

[FLOOD]

Quote: Tigran Mazmanian

Quote: garnik

And what was bad written by the Assyrian brother.

The story can be real and straightened .. in the Persian army 20 thousand sardars of Armenians served. 200 years ago, the Armenian people of East Armenia were deprived of the right to bear arms .. A feat he is such a feat ..

Firstly, from 1461, Sultan Mehmed II facilitated the transfer to his capital of Istanbul - the residence of the Armenian patriarch (in the Byzantine era, there were not even Armenian churches as “heretical” ones). The Armenian patriarch was endowed with broad religious and administrative powers and was the head (bash) of a special “Armenian” millet (“Ermeni milleti”).

Secondly, the enormous privileges that Armenians had in the Ottoman Empire are evidenced even by the fact that all Christian communities that did not belong to the “Romanian” millet that united Greek Orthodox Christians in the Ottoman Empire testify to the “Armenian” millet.

Thus, all Catholics living in the Ottoman Empire, including those of Italian origin (Levantines), were legally subordinate to the Armenian Patriarch of Constantinople and, in fact, were dependent on the Armenians.

It turns out that the Ottoman sultans placed Europeans and people of European descent in their country - the same Italians - in a subordinate position with respect to the Armenians.

Armenians enjoyed similar privileges in the Egyptian Mamluk State, which existed until 1517 and which included Cilicia. Since the Armenians were “co-religionists” with the majority of the Egyptian Christian population — the Copts (whom the Ottomans included in the “Armenian” millet with the accession of Egypt), the role of the Armenian trade elite in the economy of the Egyptian sultanate, while it existed, was enormous.

Naturally, the Armenians enjoyed such privileges. They strongly encouraged the same Italians that Asia Minor and Cilicia are “ancient Armenian lands”, which, they say, are only temporarily under the rule of “barbarians” (as the Armenians called their benefactors - Ottoman and Egyptian sultans and the indigenous population of Asia Minor - the Turks) .
And now about Iran:
It is said that the Armenians have lived in Iran since the time of King Achamenid Darius, but these were mostly vassals who arrived in Persia to fulfill their obligations to offer gifts to the “Shahinshah” (king of kings). The Arshakid king Arshavir even before the penetration of Islam into Iran in the third century AD, and the Sassanian Shapur II in the fourth century after campaigning in Armenia (in 368-370) brought several hundred Armenians to Iran and settled them in Khuzestan and southwestern areas of modern Iran. After the Arab conquests in Iran, part of the Armenians, along with the Persians, converted to Islam.

[garnik]

You do not forget that the Armenians lived on their land, and through their activities benefited the Turks. And only because part of the Armenians supported Russia in the war with Turkey, genocide happened.
Whatever Iran was, but before the arrival of the Seljuks, relations between Armenians and Persians were tolerant.

[Butchcassidy]

Quote: Cheldon

Quote: ButchCassidy

The state position of modern Russia as a state is determined by the statement of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation “On the condemnation of the genocide of the Armenian people in the 1915 — 1922 years” of April 14 1995

Earlier in the joint Declaration of May 24, 1915, allied countries (Great Britain, France and Russia), the mass killings of Armenians were for the first time in history recognized as a crime against humanity.
So your position is marginal and is determined solely by the inability to recognize your own story.

When the war is on and all the men are at the front, and suddenly some guys in the rear took advantage of this and decided to realize their claims to the territory, I think few people like it. I had to remove the troops and pacify the rebels. I do not justify anyone.

Lies, lies and provocation. What are some other guys? What are you talking about? Armenians, like Assyrians, Greeks, Yezidis, etc. lived and live on their own land and do not pretend to be a stranger.

Speaking of the First World War, it was a very convenient occasion to crack down on the Armenian people, since all those who were more or less able to resist were called up for the army (about 600 thousand men), moreover, the majority bravely fought at the front. They were the first to be massively disarmed and destroyed. This is despite the fact that Christians were generally forbidden to possess and carry weapons.

In general, the Armenian Genocide began in the late 19th century. - 1894-1896 - The Cilician massacre (from 100 to 300 thousand), the climax was April 24, 1915, when the color of the Armenian nation was collected - the scientific, creative intelligentsia of Constantinople, only about 500 people were destroyed, the genocide continued until the 1920s, and the last Armenian pogrom in Istanbul was the 1970s.

For comparison: the beginning of the 14th century, the population of the Ottoman Empire about 5 million, of which: Turks - about 3 million, Kurds - about 2,5 million, about 2 million - Armenians, Greeks - about 80 million, etc. Now in Turkey, the population is about 50 million, of which 60-8 million are Turks, Kurds - 12-60 million, and Armenians - 19 thousand (!). Despite the fact that by the end of the 3th century. there were up to XNUMX million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire

Think and read before writing.

[FLOOD]

Well, about 60 thousand. You are clearly bent)) Yes, they are in Azerbaijan only according to official figures of 40 thousand.

[Butchcassidy]

You different sources indicated differently - from 40 to 70 thousand.

I don’t know about Azerbaijan; more than 100 thousand are usually indicated there along with Nagorno-Karabakh.

[Butchcassidy]

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

Butchcassidy
The state position of modern Russia as a state is determined by the statement of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation “On the condemnation of the genocide of the Armenian people in the 1915 — 1922 years” of April 14 1995

your position is marginal and determined solely by your inability to recognize your own story

With the collapse of the Union of the Russian Federation, Crimea was also recognized as Ukrainian territory, so let's not be smart, in our country the history is always with an unpredictable past ....

You may have an unpredictable past, but in Russia, everything is pretty good with history, like Crimeans in particular. And if not for the events of 2014 on the Maidan, Crimea would have remained Ukrainian.

[Butchcassidy]

Quote: TUFAN

The old song, as it is, will immediately include in the repertoire ...

;) yeah. In order for Western grants to be processed, banners are made in English. Is it in vain that the United States keeps one of the largest embassies in the world in Yerevan - 2 thousand employees?

[BVS]

“The United States maintains one of the largest embassies in the world in Yerevan - 2 thousand employees” - a lie!
The territory of the US Embassy in Yerevan is indeed the second largest US Embassy in the world, but not in terms of the number of employees!. But currently there are 70 Americans and 350 Armenians working here.
Dear comrades, check your tweets for truth.

[rocket757]

Yes, the Russian people quite adequately distinguish the muddy, gurgling slurry that has no purpose, from such real brothers in faith and spirit!!!
Everything is fine and we will live together. brothers!

[gukoyan]

I wonder if these seven were taken out of the country?)

[rocket757]

They will merge themselves when... well then, in general!

[Butchcassidy]

Quote: bvs

Ukraine did not expel Russian bases from Crimea on time, and Crimea decided.

In order to put military bases there at one time, Russia forced the Turks. So it is not for Ukraine to expel the Russian fleet from the city of Russian military glory - Sevastopol.

[Butchcassidy]

Quote: bvs

“The United States maintains one of the largest embassies in the world in Yerevan - 2 thousand employees” - a lie!
The territory of the US Embassy in Yerevan is indeed the second largest US Embassy in the world, but not in terms of the number of employees!. But currently there are 70 Americans and 350 Armenians working here.
Dear comrades, check your tweets for truth.

The embassy can accommodate that many people. You are right, we were talking specifically about size - why? The first place is the embassy in Germany. But this is understandable, taking into account the history of its deployment and the military contingent of about 100 thousand people. Why in Armenia? Obviously, not in order to develop American theater or ballet in Yerevan.

[FLOOD]

Quote: bvs

“The United States maintains one of the largest embassies in the world in Yerevan - 2 thousand employees” - a lie!
The territory of the US Embassy in Yerevan is indeed the second largest US Embassy in the world, but not in terms of the number of employees!. But currently there are 70 Americans and 350 Armenians working here.
Dear comrades, check your tweets for truth.

Well, firstly, this is an article dated May 11, 2013, and the number of people you indicated corresponds to the number of workers involved in the construction of the complex, that is, builders and engineers. http://www.2rd.am/ru/V-Yerevane-otkryto-vtoroe-po
-razmeram-posol-stvo-SSHA-v-mire You probably mean the article at this link.
And here's the second one:
In his article, Truman National Security Project (USA) analyst Daniel Gaynor tries to answer the question of why the United States attaches such importance to cooperation with Armenia. “The best explanation is the location. Armenia, a landlocked country of three million, is located in perhaps the most turbulent region in the world. Armenia borders on Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Iran. As a former Soviet country, Armenia relies on Russia for trade and military support. The United States has its stakes in all the five countries mentioned, and Armenia is in sight as a potentially powerful lever for promoting American goals,” the author believes. And so it can be stated that the buildings and “garrisons” of such an impressive size, about 500-600 The people, apparently, are called upon to carry out a mission that is by no means of a diplomatic nature, probably related to US interests in different regions of the world. Such missions can be associated with US aspirations to expand the area of ​​American interests in the Caucasus, the Middle East and the Balkans to the borders of its ally, Turkey.

Details: http://novostink.ru/armenia/139429-vtoroe-po-razm
eram-kakova-missiya-posolstva-ssha-v-armenii.html
#ixzz54biP6q8R
Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to NovostiNK.ru

[FLOOD]

An old article, but still relevant:
About the US Navy base in the center of Yerevan and the potential consequences of “complementarism”
Initiated by Robert Kocharyan (the second president of independent Armenia) with the prompting of Vartan Oskanian (the head of the Armenian Foreign Ministry during the reign of Robert Kocharyan), the “complementary” foreign policy, which continues to this day, will lead Armenia to disaster. Today, Yerevan is home to a US military base with 800 Marines stationed in the embassy bunkers, which is the largest embassy building in the world. Why did the Americans need to build the largest complex not in the capital of a great power, but in a third-rate state, I think there is no need to tell. Also, there is no need to remind us of what the American Marine Corps is, let’s just say that 800 Marines are half of the Armenian division in terms of combat power, professionalism, and ability to solve assigned tasks. That is, at any moment the Americans can stage a coup here, and local forces will not be able to take power from them. In principle, no one will dare to do this (“ask” the Americans to return power).
There are no official agreements between Armenia and the United States on the deployment of marines; more precisely, there are hidden agreements signed behind society’s back. And this is already illegal. What made Kocharyan agree to the deployment of American Marines? Was it difficult to refuse the Americans? Wasn’t it clear that 800 infantrymen were a threat to the state? And if it was clear, then why did the country’s leadership harbor this infection? Or maybe the country's leadership lives for today and is not interested in what will happen in two years? Did Kocharyan, at Oskanyan’s prompting, think that, in exchange for an American base, the US administration would make concessions to Armenia in the Karabakh issue? The only indulgence was recognition of the legitimacy of the Kocharyan regime, but was it really worth paying such a huge price for?
We started talking about the US Marine Corps base as a preamble, because this is not the most significant cost of “complementarism.” The real tragedy lies elsewhere. Thus, Edward Djerejyan, one of the leading experts on American foreign policy, says that the war in Karabakh will resume in 2014. He is not mistaken, because he knows exactly about the plans of his fatherland: the Americans need a military presence in the region like air, and there is no other reason than a new Armenian-Azerbaijani war. The new war will be a war of attrition: as soon as the Americans squeeze into the region under the pretext of withdrawing troops in Afghanistan, hostilities will immediately begin and will continue as long as the Americans need it. And they will need it for a very long time.
Alexander Gareginyan

[BVS]

“Today there is a US military base in Yerevan - 800 marines stationed in the embassy bunkers,” - can you indicate the source of your information? The number 800 is very beautiful.

[garnik]

FLOOD
Don't write nonsense. I’m reading the Armenian media, this is the first time I’ve heard such an author’s surname. This is from the series when ancient Arab historians. under fictitious names, they claim (probably to you) that Azerbaijanis inhabited the so-called Azerbaijan in the 7th century. Well, if Babek is Turkish-Azerbaijani (like you) then anything can happen.

[FLOOD]

to argue with you is to disrespect yourself

[FLOOD]

Quote: bvs

“Today there is a US military base in Yerevan - 800 marines stationed in the embassy bunkers,” - can you indicate the source of your information? The number 800 is very beautiful.

http://inosmi.ru/sngbaltia/20130402/207619984.htm
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[BVS]

The link is broken, that is, the original source is missing.

[garnik]

Firstly, this is a 2013 publication of the so-called original. And the original publication cannot be opened. Any citizen of Armenia will tell you that this scribbler (if such a thing exists) is a crap and a liar.

[FLOOD]

Quote: bvs

“Today there is a US military base in Yerevan - 800 marines stationed in the embassy bunkers,” - can you indicate the source of your information? The number 800 is very beautiful.

The new parliamentary system of government, which will begin to function in Armenia in 2018, will significantly reduce the powers of the government, and the carte blanche issued by the EU to interfere in the country’s internal politics will increase the pressure of the liberal pro-Western opposition on the government and the minds of Armenians. Considering the extensive intelligence network consisting of purchased politicians, media, non-governmental organizations and influential citizens of Armenia, such a step could end in a Maidan for the country. The protest, without any doubt, will be supported by the staff of the American Embassy, ​​who are comfortably located on an area of ​​9 hectares. Officially, there are 800 US Marines at the embassy. - Such is the diplomacy of the Anglo-Saxons. Armenian patriots, however, report that unknown young people regularly arrive at the embassy territory and never return. Apparently, specialists who arrived incognito can forcefully persuade everyone who tries to stop the upcoming Maidan to take the correct position. Like Germany, Armenia will be flooded by a wave of migrants, whom Europe wants to get rid of by fusing migrants who managed to acquire passports from European countries. Timid attempts by LGBT people to hold parades will turn into bravura marches of winners.
https://pandoraopen.ru/2017-12-11/neostorozhnaya-
tolerasnost-pogubit-armeniyu/

[BVS]

Again the same rake - The link is broken, that is, the original source is missing.

[SEER]

Quote: bvs

https://pandoraopen.ru/2017-12-11/neostorozhnaya-
tolerasnost-pogubit-armeniyu/
Again the same rake - The link is broken, that is, the original source is missing.

It looks like you just have a problem with your hands....