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Where to live better: in Russia or in the West?

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Almost every one of us at least once in my life had a question: where is it better to live - in our own country or abroad? Of course - how many people, so many opinions. There are categories of citizens who are trying with all their might to "dump over the hill". Others only dream about it, and still others are very skeptical about such an idea.


Some really get to move to another country and live there happily until the end of their days. However, most people face intractable difficulties, and the result of the whole venture is a return to their homeland.

Moving to a foreign country with an unfamiliar language, a different mentality of people, alien to traditions and customs is a challenge. The decision to “pack your bags” cannot be made at random. Many believe that starting a new life in an unfamiliar place is easier than ever. Is this really so and what should you be prepared for, leaving your home country?

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  1. Terenin
    Terenin 17 January 2018 14: 14
    12
    I am responsible for myself. I really love Russia, and I want to live in my homeland! To those who leave I am calm.
    Ps Traveled (tourist) not a few countries.
    1. Vend
      Vend 17 January 2018 14: 22
      10
      Quote: Terenin
      I am responsible for myself. I really love Russia, and I want to live in my homeland! To those who leave I am calm.
      Ps Traveled (tourist) not a few countries.

      I agree, let everyone live wherever they like. But I’m not very good with people. who hate the country in which they live. Now there are especially many of them, not only among living, but also among migrants.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 17 January 2018 14: 28
        +8
        These people have such a mentality and gut, they will always, everywhere and everyone be unhappy yes
  2. Masya masya
    Masya masya 17 January 2018 14: 31
    +5
    Needed where was born...
    wink
  3. alatanas
    alatanas 17 January 2018 14: 48
    +7
    "It’s good - where we are not." Especially in the West you will always be an 2-grade citizen, as much as you will not try to be more Catholic than the Pope. In addition, houses and walls help.
    I can repeat that in Bulgaria you will not feel the 2 variety. Probably in Serbia and Montenegro ...
    There is such a saying - a person always feels best where his umbilical cord is thrown at birth.
    1. Vard
      Vard 17 January 2018 15: 02
      0
      I lived a little abroad ... Conclusion ... If you have a lot of money, you can live ... If not very, then it’s difficult ... Tired ... Not tired ... The lawn should be mowed ...
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 18 January 2018 04: 49
        +2
        Quote: Vard
        Conclusion ... If you have a lot of money, you can live ... If not very, then it is difficult ...
        We seem to be different. The difference is that as an intelligent specialist, you can earn more and afford more.
        1. In100gram
          In100gram 21 January 2018 21: 15
          +1
          Quote: Greenwood
          The difference is that as an intelligent specialist, you can earn more and afford more

          You need to be very sensible and narrow super-specialist so that the employer will attach a translator to you. Or know the language perfectly. These are units. Highly paid few. An example of a PIC leak to China is not to be offered; politics is mixed
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 17 January 2018 16: 58
      +1
      Quote: alatanas
      I can repeat that in Bulgaria you will not feel the 2 variety. Probably in Serbia and Montenegro ...
      There is such a saying - a person always feels best where his umbilical cord is thrown at birth.

      Behold, you are right. But you are less and less in Bulgaria, and more and more Turks and newcomers. Accordingly, the attitude will be tense. We are not relatives of the Turks, hundreds of years of continuous wars with them "for your and our freedom."
      1. alatanas
        alatanas 17 January 2018 20: 37
        +3
        We, too, are not relatives of the Turks and fought no less than you. I just made a statement about the relationship, and not an invitation to permanent residence.
        PS By the way, the Bulgarian Turks are quite different from the Anadolian Turks
  4. agent
    agent 17 January 2018 15: 36
    +2
    Title doesn’t match the content of the video. What they wanted to convey with this video is not clear.
  5. high
    high 17 January 2018 16: 17
    +7
    If rich Russia did not occupy 90th place, next to the poor countries of the world, in terms of living standards, then such an article would not exist.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 17 January 2018 16: 48
      12
      We are not proud, we will stay until 90th place. You are right, we have something to work on. I wrote the rest in my first post "I really love Russia, and I want to live in my homeland!" yes
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 17 January 2018 18: 12
        +3
        Quote: Terenin
        We are not proud, we will stay until 90th place.

        Speak for yourself, pliz. I, personally, would not refuse from the first place in this list.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 17 January 2018 18: 34
          +8
          Well, well, I speak for myself. I’m not proud, and I’m ready to fall into the gay-European liberal-tolerant abyss of the 90th, and not the first hi
          1. tchoni
            tchoni 17 January 2018 23: 08
            +3
            Quote: Terenin
            Well, well, I speak for myself. I’m not proud, and I’m ready to fall into the gay-European liberal-tolerant abyss of the 90th, and not the first hi

            Yes it is clear. Judging by the previous comments, you have little idea how to live a family of 3 people on a salary of 20 Tugriks and a child allowance of 10 (if you are lucky). Yes, in a rented apartment ...
            You don’t get it. so good for you in 90th place
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 18 January 2018 10: 10
              +5
              Well, well respected tchoniThen answer for me yourself, how would you like to hear my answer.
              But difficulties didn’t pass us by. There were times in the 90s, when in my family (as a senior officer) there were only 50 rubles left. And thanks to people from across the Caucasus who contain cafes and night bars to which they agreed to hire us (officers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc.) for guards and bouncers for the night. And in the morning we ran to the service, so as not to be late for the construction.
        2. In100gram
          In100gram 21 January 2018 21: 17
          0
          Quote: tchoni
          I personally would not refuse from the first place in this list

          And what are the criteria for this rating? "Announce the entire list, please" (C). The question is rhetorical
  6. tchoni
    tchoni 17 January 2018 18: 11
    +3
    Something new. I’ve been hanging out for a long time, but an article on the topic "do not go to the rotting west - it's bad there!" I see the first time. Surely everything is so bad? and it was necessary to shoot an agitation in the style of "do not tighten - it will be better with us"?
    And your comrade Malta is right
    If rich Russia did not occupy 90th place, next to the poor countries of the world, in terms of living standards, then such an article would not exist.
  7. 933454818
    933454818 17 January 2018 20: 08
    +3
    I have been living with my wife and son in Portugal for more than 15 years. I went to work in 2002, and still have. I soon retire (in Russia after 2 months, here after 6 years) we are thinking about where we will live, son to at that time he would graduate from university and go off to work somewhere — he doesn’t want to work here. So it seems that all three have normally dual citizenship (Portuguese and Russian), they have their own apartment, 2 cars (here the car is not a luxury, but without it it’s impossible to work you get-the schedules with my wife are different) there are no debts and loans, everything is paid off, calmly. One is crippling, the mentality of the people in Europe is different, not Russian. They will calmly deceive in their favor and, as if nothing had happened, would be suitable for talking again. Here, for a friend, they will not twist one’s pocket and soul. My wife wants to live in Russia and I agree with her. Okay, let's see.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 18 January 2018 03: 24
      +2
      Get to Asia. Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines. It’s cheaper to live there, and the climate is good, and real estate is inexpensive. Plus the sea is at hand. And the situation is generally calm, there are no migrant problems.
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  9. Greenwood
    Greenwood 18 January 2018 03: 32
    +1
    I study Japanese language and Japanese culture. I work in the field of information technology. I’m thinking about moving to Japan in the near future. The climate is softer there, there are no these unbearable frosts and ice, the sea and beaches are. The salaries of it-specialists are huge (especially for programmers), the vacancies in my field are sea. Well, the country itself as a whole is calm and comfortable for living, beautification at the highest level, America and Europe are resting. I think it will work out.
    PS I don’t want to scoop Russia and I won’t, but it got our total disorder in all areas of life, poor roads and roads in the streets, constantly rising prices and complete uncertainty about tomorrow.
    1. long in stock.
      long in stock. 18 January 2018 08: 47
      0
      correlate your dimensions and their apartments .. and think you fit in there ... the salary is huge .. but the prices are there ..
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 19 January 2018 08: 24
        0
        I have already been to Japan and lived there. The prices there are for some products at the Russian level (I mean the prices we have in Primorye), only renting real estate is much more expensive. And so there is not much big difference. About apartments wrote below.
    2. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 18 January 2018 22: 01
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      Quote: Greenwood
      I study Japanese language and Japanese culture. I work in the field of information technology. I’m thinking about moving to Japan in the near future.


      The Japanese mentality is very (!) Very different from yours, this can be a huge minus.
      and so, if you do not bother to consider the area of ​​the apartment in the tatami and not in meters, then you can live.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 19 January 2018 08: 31
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        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        The Japanese mentality is very (!) Very different from yours, this can be a huge minus.
        I studied at the school with the study of the Japanese language, I have been talking with the Japanese since 8 years old, and teachers and schoolchildren, and students, I have Japanese friends. So what is the mentality of the Japanese, I know.
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        and so, if it does not bother to consider the area of ​​the apartment in tatami and not in meters
        About the area of ​​the apartment is a brightly replicated myth. Small apartments are simply the cheapest, and if you live in the center of Tokyo, then the only option for many Japanese people who want to live in the center. Plus, foreign students also rent such apartments because of their low cost. And so most Japanese people live in full-fledged two-story houses. Tokyo itself, if you move away from the center, all consists of endless sleeping areas with cozy houses. I once lived in such an area.
        Getting a good salary, it is quite possible to rent such a house or a rather big apartment.
  10. Penzyac
    Penzyac 26 January 2018 18: 09
    0
    Quote: alta
    If rich Russia did not occupy 90th place, next to the poor countries of the world, in terms of living standards, then such an article would not exist.

    And the judges, who distribute the places in the ratings - who? If it’s like WADA, then you will get 90th place and this is still good ...
    ps: In contrast to the "promised land" in Russia, at least they do not shoot ...
    1. ILDM1986
      ILDM1986 26 January 2018 22: 09
      0
      Yes, and they shoot and blow. Don't watch the news? there is a whole series of attacks in schools. Everywhere, if you wish, you can find the cons, but the pros in living in Russia every year to look harder and harder.
  11. timgan777
    timgan777 31 January 2018 23: 14
    +1
    so in my family everything just happened - where I was born, it came in handy, I live in my country, I work, raise children and build my life in RUSSIA, I am a RUSSIAN person and I try to make my country as good as I can