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The man at the head of everything. Is it time to change the priorities of domestic policy?

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A strange feeling triggered one letter, which was handed to me by friends. I do not know the author of the letter. Moreover, I did not even try to meet her. Distance ... But I met other teachers. The problems turned out to be similar. Russia is great for its lands. Great distances. Great people. But, most importantly, problems.




We are deservedly proud of our youth. We are worried about bad modern education, but in our hearts we rejoice in the diploma of our own child. See the publications of recent months. See your own comments. Bad at our school. Bad in high school. No, not so. Worse than it was in Soviet times. So, probably, it will be more accurate.

But tell me honestly, will you agree to the reduction of universities in Russia? Agree to pay a ruble or two less taxes, but subject to the closure of budgetary institutions and universities? No and no again! And I will present you a letter. A letter from a specialist who wants to be useful for the country, for people.

I did not specifically edit anything and did not remove it in this letter. To show the level of education and intelligence of the author. The author is a product not of Soviet, but of Russian education. Good, good product. And ... not needed by our country.

"Catherine, teacher stories, Voronezh.

Hello. I am writing to you from the city of Voronezh, provincial, but large and "confidently developing." I am 28, and the last 11 years of my life have been devoted to education and science. After graduating from the university’s history department, full of hope and dressed in rose-colored glasses, I entered the graduate school of my native department. Three years have passed in the permanent work in archives, conferences, writing scientific articles, pre-defense rush and now, finally: peace! Meet the finished scientist! Alas, no one needed a scientist. In my own department for the 10 years that have passed before my eyes, four teaching rates have been reduced. After endlessly sending out resumes, going to universities, I was convinced that localism — the system of appointment to the post in accordance with the nobility of the clan, abolished at the end of the 17th century — did not disappear. “Hasn’t a strong city asked for you?” Whose patronage are you? So what if you have recommendations, articles, 95% originality of the thesis? There is no load, you know what the situation is in the country! ”

At the same time, before my eyes, in high schools and elite schools, by calling those who are probably the best in science and teaching in this world, they took yesterday's students with no work experience or degree, with solid graduates in their diplomas. Now I work at school. For the salary of 12 thousand rubles for one and a half rates, where no one cares about the quality of teaching the subject, and only care about the ratings that you can get for participation in competitions, online contests, performances at pedagogical councils. I visited all aspects of the barricades of education, except, unfortunately or fortunately, the top management, and I am well aware that with the current trends of segregation and social Darwinism, an expert who just knows well and does his work with soul and not who is not someone's protege, will be counted among the ranks of "collective farm nags, not Arab racers."

Without education, there is no life. Without a teacher, teacher, teacher there is no education. Pay them decent salaries ?! Allow me! They should dress in children's love, pay for the apartment with the gratitude of students, eat the contribution to science ... What’s the most terrible thing, it’s not only the officials who think so. So think the parents of those we teach. I'm 28. I love and know my subject, I was loved by students and children. I intensively pull up a foreign language and prepare for emigration. Like all friends of my circle. "

Well, it was not scary from the bare truth? Not nude or nude. Just naked! Teacher's letter to nowhere. Cry crying in the wilderness. The pain and tears of the human soul. Russian soul.

Notice the difference between most of us and this young woman? The difference that we understand within ourselves, but we often cannot express it. She does not agree!

I do not agree to live for the future. I do not agree to be a "collective farm nag". We agree, but she is not. She is different. We lived, and many still live, for the sake of a "bright future." And she just wants to live. To live in accordance with the formation of talent, needs.

She is a good specialist. Moreover, she is a specialist for us. But the current system does not accept such a specialist. Not because there are no places. Just because "the marshal has his son." Let blunt, not far, but his.

Its further fate? If he fulfills his promise and leaves the country, he may be able to find himself somewhere. Somewhere, but not in Russia! It may even make a career in some Western university as a specialist in Russian history. And we will write about the brain drain to the West. About the perfidy of this very West, which takes the best.

Will stay? Then through 5-10 years will turn into an ordinary down-to-earth teacher. Not a teacher. The teacher with extinct eyes, which to damn students and the subject. Who knows how to conduct a "demonstration lesson", how to write some test work on teacher improvement courses, how, without straining, "to conduct the lessons as expected."

She does not write about modern training programs. She does not write about the load of the teacher. She does not talk about the insane load on students. The author is a modern teacher. Able to work in extreme mode. Able to teach the modern student to learn. But not needed by our school.

Someone will now say about the cowardice and rudeness of the author of the letter. We must fight, we must raise the school that sheltered her. You can not throw students. That's right. And for what?

In order for you to poke your poverty? To count pennies to paycheck? Maybe in order to see their students as academics, war heroes, notable inventors at the end of their lives? .. The old Soviet film ends this way. Just let us answer ourselves, based on the experience of our own family: do former students today often go to see their teachers?

But exactly the same situation in other state-funded sectors of the budget. Doctors who receive tens or even hundreds of thousands of rubles, have you met? I'm not talking about "thank you" in envelopes. I'm talking about legal wages. Maybe the kindergarten teacher your child goes to boasts three or four tens of thousands in his pocket? A scientist in a research institute? The beauty and pride of our science drives to Porsche?

Now there is an election campaign. They will promise us exactly the same as before, the golden mountains, milk rivers with honey and other stars from the sky. To promise in the hope of our forgetfulness.

It's time to collect stones ... We have to write, talk, shout about the need to change the vector of the country's domestic policy today. A person, a simple person with his problems and demands, should be at the head of all further transformations. In order not to dream the most about foreign salaries and respect.

A person who, together with pride in foreign policy successes in the refrigerator, will have a big piece of meat. A man who after work will rest in the theater, and not in the beer. A man whose even thoughts will not arise to change citizenship for the sake of a piece of bread. A man who, like in the famous cartoon about Mowgli, will be able to proudly say: “Yes, I am a man!”
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 18 January 2018 06: 11
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    this article to the Kremlin ... you can collect the signature. we have a category of people in “pink glasses”, or just comfortable ones — those who scream “we are doing well,” and those who are not doing well are exposed as whiners and liberals, even here on the site. they would be in the shoes of ordinary people, of whom there are millions. They would be sent to the salary of a nurse or a young doctor, teacher, or to a handout in the form of a "pension", they might come to their senses.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 18 January 2018 06: 25
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      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      this article to the Kremlin ... you can collect the signature. we have a category of people in “pink glasses”, or just comfortable ones — those who yell “we are fine,”

      I fully support! Author +++++
      Only, Friends, they are unlikely to hear us in the Kremlin.
      In health care, the situation is as shitty as in education.
      1. domokl
        18 January 2018 06: 40
        14
        Quote: Stroporez
        In health care, the situation is as shitty as in education.

        Can not argue with that. Beautiful presidential decrees are executed, probably?, In Moscow and a couple of other cities. But in general, a big big ass ... Talked with doctors who work in the laboratory. Weekly work with one or several cases of AIDS. But there will be no surcharges. Not a profile. And all salary increases are perfectly compensated by the removal of surcharges ...
        And demand? So there is no money, but you swore an oath to this Greek. Execute! ..
        1. Dzmicer
          Dzmicer 18 January 2018 08: 34
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          At the same time, I am sure that the head physician will have a salary of about half a million per month plus bonuses.
          This is how the system works. The chief receives 400-500 thousand, deputy - 200-300 thousand, the remaining 12-20 thousand. Thus, the average salary in the country is 37 thousand.)
          1. Alber
            Alber 18 January 2018 10: 50
            +8
            Quote: Dzmicer
            At the same time, I am sure that the head physician will have a salary of about half a million per month plus bonuses.
            This is how the system works. The chief receives 400-500 thousand, deputy - 200-300 thousand, the remaining 12-20 thousand. Thus, the average salary in the country is 37 thousand.)

            with the current system and the current government of injustice, what do we want to expect?
            until we disperse the current parliament and recruit new deputies
            from among the representatives of the native Russians, those who did not break away from the people, there would be no need to wait for changes
            1. fa2998
              fa2998 18 January 2018 18: 47
              +5
              Quote: Alber
              until we disperse the current parliament and recruit new deputies

              You just don’t have to shift the blame. We have the PRESIDENTIAL REPUBLIC!
              Dial tomorrow the full Duma, disagreeing with the opinion of the government and the president, we have that the tanks ended from the bridge on the Duma to shoot!
              The current Duma is only a tool in the hands of the president and the government. EP was created by the current president, and leads the party of prime ministers. And passes laws drafted by the government and approved by the president. am hi
          2. CONTROL
            CONTROL 18 January 2018 11: 21
            10
            Quote: Dzmicer
            At the same time, I am sure that the head physician will have a salary of about half a million per month plus bonuses.
            This is how the system works. The chief receives 400-500 thousand, deputy - 200-300 thousand, the remaining 12-20 thousand. Thus, the average salary in the country is 37 thousand.)

            That's right - the system!
            In summer I studied in Moscow - advanced training necessary for licensing activities ... Education - at the E. Gaydar Institute, this is not a pound for you ... something! But in fact - a milking machine for the legalized withdrawal of money (500 tons from the nose for the "increase" ...). Studying - almost all the same old pensioners like me, who have this "qualification" and experience - at least eat some singing ... And "Gaidar students" or "Gaidar" are "taught"? They give the solution to the so-called. "situational tasks", out of 22 problems - 16-18 result in either an erroneous solution or the tasks themselves are incorrectly posed (look in any textbook ...)
            ... eh, bullseye, kotissi kuda? or - quo vadis? ...
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 18 January 2018 17: 00
              +2
              Quote: CONTROL
              But in fact - a milking machine for the legalized withdrawal of money (500 tons from the nose for the "increase" ...)

              And teachers in the province are spread rot.
          3. Andrey160479
            Andrey160479 22 January 2018 10: 13
            +1
            And this is happening not only in the public sector. The company I worked for: Gen. the director shouts that there is no money for hard workers. At the same time, for the same salary, hard workers work for one and a half shifts. Well, I find out that my wife bought a new crossover, a new Mercedes, another cottage to the apartments that he already has. And all this from the difficult financial situation in the organization. Gene. the director is my former friend. I was the middle manager in this company. When I began to not obsessively point out these points, I had to leave.
        2. groks
          groks 18 January 2018 11: 24
          +2
          Beautiful presidential decrees are being executed, probably ?,
          Nuuuu ... are fulfilled. At first, Siluanov spat in physics, saying that he would try to fulfill his decrees in! 2 (!) Years at 18 (!). Then Shoigu repeated. Eeeestooooonskoe such an implementation.
      2. Moore
        Moore 18 January 2018 07: 02
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        Quote: Stroporez
        In health care, the situation is as shitty as in education.

        I will say that even in the civil service the situation is no better. Where nothing can be stolen, the ZP fund is being tipped. So the head of some regional office receives thousands of that way 80-100, and the girl-leading specialist (also accepted by competition) 12-15.
        Then we go around complaining that boors are sitting in the tax, and inadequate in social security ..
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 18 January 2018 07: 10
          +9
          Quote: Moore
          I will say that even in the civil service the situation is no better. Where nothing can be stolen, the ZP fund is being tipped. So the head of some regional office receives thousands of that way 80-100, and the girl-leading specialist (also accepted by competition) 12-15.

          That's right! 100%
        2. Dzmicer
          Dzmicer 18 January 2018 08: 51
          16
          The civil service in the Russian Federation is built so that even the most decent person who comes into the system is turned into a bribe taker. Because as soon as a person enters the civil service, he can count on a maximum of 10-15 thousand rubles a month. Is it possible to support a family with this money, to rent housing, to purchase a mortgage? No. For such money, these people should not work, they should engage in direct sabotage and sabotage in revenge for the humiliation of their human dignity.
          At the same time, in the Russian Empire, the system of remuneration of civil servants was much more logical: in addition to salary, it included table and apartment money. Thus, having entered the service of the fatherland, a person was able to provide for himself and his family, retained his human dignity, was interested in maintaining his place , and the system got at its disposal real professionals in their field.
          1. uskrabut
            uskrabut 18 January 2018 10: 13
            +4
            Quote: Dzmicer
            and the system got at its disposal real professionals

            Now too - the system received Siluanova for 1,7 million rubles per month laughing
            1. Dzmicer
              Dzmicer 18 January 2018 10: 21
              +6
              This is not a professional bureaucrat, this is someone's vassal who will fly away from his place as soon as his master loses his influence.
              We did not have a layer of professional bureaucrats (and everything possible is being done to prevent it), because it will inevitably come into conflict with our feudal lords.
            2. passerby5
              passerby5 21 January 2018 17: 48
              0
              and how many more such Siluanovs. a huge list can be given. Well, the candidates ...
          2. andj61
            andj61 18 January 2018 11: 42
            +2
            Quote: Dzmicer
            At the same time, in the Russian Empire, the system of remuneration of civil servants was much more logical: in addition to salary, it included table and apartment money. Thus, having entered the service of the fatherland, a person was able to provide for himself and his family, retained his human dignity, was interested in maintaining his place , and the system got at its disposal real professionals in their field.

            But what about Akaki Akakievich Bashmachkin from Gogol’s “Overcoat”? A typical "little man" and a typical official of the Russian Empire of a small level. And he also interrupted from bread to water. For almost two hundred years, nothing has changed in Russia in this regard! hi
            1. Dzmicer
              Dzmicer 18 January 2018 12: 17
              +2
              I take RI at the beginning of the twentieth century, she, as it were, has moved quite far since the days of Gogol.
          3. would
            would 21 January 2018 17: 15
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            Here are just those who receive 10-15 thousand rubles a month, if they turn into a bribe taker, then very quickly they turn into a convicted bribe taker.

            The system is designed so that there isn’t much to take "below", and if you take what is, you can easily put them up and report on the fight against corruption.

            And the salaries are different at the top, and it’s immeasurably more to take, and most importantly, it’s much harder to reveal corruption schemes than to put an official from the bottom for a direct bribe of a couple thousand rubles.
            1. passerby5
              passerby5 21 January 2018 17: 49
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              and therefore they turn into boors, general spoilers, brains ...- in, etc.
        3. Greenwood
          Greenwood 18 January 2018 09: 18
          10
          I confirm that I worked for 3,5 years in the civil service. The average salary of a leading specialist is 20-25 thousand, in Primorye it is a penny that you can’t live on. My legs will no longer be in state structures. I got a job in a private company.
      3. Alber
        Alber 18 January 2018 11: 03
        +9
        Quote: Stroporez
        Only, Friends, they are unlikely to hear us in the Kremlin.
        In health care, the situation is as shitty as in education.

        Why should they hear us?
        The government is anti-people. Parliament is also in doubt in the majority
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 18 January 2018 06: 37
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      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      this article to the Kremlin ..

      They will not believe there. After all, the president tells us something completely different. Ah, the president will not lie
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 18 January 2018 08: 32
      10
      The Bologna system of education is imposed on Russia by the West. He also controls it. And it was introduced specifically for the "leak of Mogza" from Russia. But none of our liberals in power and does not lift a finger to change something. This is the system and we have accepted it. hi
      1. Winnie76
        Winnie76 18 January 2018 10: 29
        +6
        Quote: siberalt
        The Bologna system of education is imposed on Russia by the West. He also controls it. And it was introduced specifically for the "leak of Mogza" from Russia.

        Those who want to learn will learn under any system, including Bologna. I personally found a situation when half went to engineers, half to masters. No difference.
        As for the brain drain - they want to leak - let it flow to all four.
        Regarding the girls. The country is objectively crisis overproduction of humanitarian. Lawyers, economists, historians, philologists. Nobody wants to study physics and mathematics. When she went to study as a historian, what place did she think? How did you imagine future work? She will sit in the archives, then write reports, and then receive decent money? And if there are thousands of such girls. In the field of history, philology and all others. And each such girl wants to satisfy her own curiosity at public expense. And what is the use of such girls for the state?
        Well, the salaries of teachers in our country have developed historically. They pay a little, but the selection is not serious. There are either losers, or extortionists, or fans.
        1. marline
          marline 18 January 2018 11: 44
          +3
          Quote: Winnie76
          The country is objectively crisis overproduction of humanitarian. Lawyers, economists, historians, philologists. Nobody wants to study physics and mathematics. When she went to study as a historian, what place did she think?

          Do you think that here at VO this is interesting to someone? Is this your adequate analysis and the right questions?
          I will disappoint you, at the VO in the comments to such articles it is not customary to understand the reasons, but it is customary to immediately write: "The entire educational system has collapsed!" and “Thieves in the Government!”, again for this you can get more pluses.
        2. Sapiens 63
          Sapiens 63 18 January 2018 22: 52
          +3
          Oops, but the faithful pulled themselves up ... yes, let the talented Russians go abroad, otherwise they’ll just wonder who is to blame and what to do? We don’t really need smart people here, right? Freethinking smacks of ....
          Regarding the girl .. to raise a patriot from a citizen, you need a competent history teacher. Which, by your logic, is not needed, I understand you are satisfied with the patriots from the Duma and the government who teach us to love our homeland, long ago transferring money having bought immovable property and sending a child to the west cursed by them.
          And you are probably a fan of our brilliant prime minister, who, in response to a question about low salaries, advises teachers to go into business.
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 18 January 2018 11: 29
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        The Bologna system of education is imposed on Russia by the West. He also controls it. And it was introduced specifically for the "leak of Mogza" from Russia.

        Talking with the "aliens" (they come "from there to visit / to their homeland) - I come to the conclusion: higher education is valued everywhere! And Russian (USSR-ovsky) is well-rated in the world, and in England, and in Germany, and in France and de ... The authorities of these countries pay for intensified language training, professional adaptation (manuals) and the maintenance of a specialist’s family, and even exams to confirm the qualifications! You see, it's worth it ...
        1. passerby5
          passerby5 21 January 2018 17: 56
          0
          certainly worth it. after all, the students of these teachers in the future will build their country, promote scientific thought, land it, in the sense of launching it into life. and it turns out in the end: (I already wrote somewhere somewhere) -see at any enterprise whose plants? I work in the north, whose technician? (only our shifts are trusted, well, small cranes). and where the load and endurance is needed, right-foreign cars. who invented them? That's right - these are the very students whom this same teacher from Voronezh wants to bring up and teach. and not a few of them. but really -system-will print this all desire
      3. andj61
        andj61 18 January 2018 11: 56
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        The Bologna system of education is imposed on Russia by the West. He also controls it. And it was introduced specifically for the "leak of Mogza" from Russia. But none of our liberals in power and does not lift a finger to change something. This is the system and we have accepted it. hi

        Criticism of the Bologna system has been imposed on teeth. And I basically support this criticism. It should only be remembered that the main argument for the introduction of the exam in the framework of this system was the practical impossibility of entering prestigious universities in the prestigious specialties of someone “from the side”, be it, this someone even seven spans in the forehead. And in this regard, the exam plays a role. That's just the exam with the Soviet education system needs to be combined, and not with the training of students to answer tests.
        Quote: Winnie76
        Well, the salaries of teachers in our country have developed historically. They pay a little, but the selection is not serious. There are either losers, or extortionists, or fans.

        My mother in the 50s - 80s, until her death in 1984, was a teacher of Russian language and literature. In the 50s and 60s they paid really little. But in the 70s and 80s, she earned one and a half bets with a full set of loads (head teacher, classroom teacher, extended day group, one and a half bets, etc.) of the order of 220-250 rubles. For comparison, my father, being at the same time the head of a rather large construction organization (more than 500 people), an order bearer (the Order of the Red Banner of Labor, the Order of Lenin and the Order of the October Revolution - to this day he receives an additional payment for his pension to the pension), etc. received 320-350 rubles. And back in the 70s there were men in schools - not so many, but they were. Now they are not at all. hi
        1. would
          would 21 January 2018 17: 17
          0
          The exam in the framework of this system was the practical impossibility of entering prestigious universities in the prestigious specialties of someone "from the outside", be he, this someone even seven spans in his forehead. And in this regard, the exam plays a role.


          So it plays that at Moscow State University both entrance examinations remained and remained. At all faculties, this is the only case in the country. And why? Is it because the leading university in the country does not want to go down due to a set of stobals who know nothing?
    4. Olgovich
      Olgovich 18 January 2018 09: 55
      +4
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      this article to the Kremlin ... you can collect the signature. we have a category of people "in pink glasses", or just comfortable, those who yell "we are fine," and those who are not good are exposed as whiners and liberals

      If you want to find out. what is “bad” - live in the former republics of the USSR. And then the nagging will stop.
      To work for her as a teacher, it is martyrdom and humiliating (collective farm nag "). So insulting millions of Russian teachers, you must completely lose your conscience. Also, I am an Arabian horse! Who admitted that she is a horse, not a nag?
      Judging by the refusals, the ignorance of the foreign, the singleness and childlessness, she is still a nag with exorbitant pride ..
      Let him leave and make a worthy career - dishwasher, breakdown, etc.
      1. dSK
        dSK 18 January 2018 11: 25
        +6
        Hello Andrey!
        Quote: Olgovich
        nagging will stop.


        Congratulations to the Orthodox participants in the Baptism! hi
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 18 January 2018 11: 39
        +4
        Quote: Olgovich
        If you want to find out. what is “bad” - live in the former republics of the USSR. And then the nagging will stop.

        I live! and - nothing, I do not misery ... To the best of my needs!
        The main thing is not to inflate them, these "needs"; but do not bring humiliating poverty! And this is achieved by "comparing" consumption levels again ...
        Judging by the refusals, the ignorance of the foreign, the singleness and childlessness, she is still a nag with exorbitant pride ..
        Let him leave and make a worthy career - dishwasher, breakdown, etc.
        That is - "no money, but you hold on"?
        -------------------------------
        Here is such a situation, for example: Work is so-so, the salary is small ... And then - (!!!) - a man comes and says: - There is a well-paid job! But - heavy ... - What is it? - Ah - shit to row! ... Will you? - Oh well ... The scum! ... And how much do they pay? ...- (!!!!!!) ...- Dap-dap ??? ... so when to go out?
        Question: who will get into this situation? and who will agree to this work? Say - a graduate of the history faculty of Moscow State University ... or a turner-milling machine of the "former specialized" defense industry enterprise?
      3. marline
        marline 18 January 2018 11: 48
        +1
        Quote: Olgovich
        Let him leave and make a worthy career - dishwasher, breakdown, etc.

        Well what are you, she as a patriot will write a new history of Russia!
        If she has liberal views, then about the bad Stalin, if nationalistic, then about the "Russ-Aryans."
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 18 January 2018 12: 46
          +6
          Quote: merlin
          Well what are you, she as a patriot will write a new history of Russia!

          But who needs her there with her Russian diploma?
          I saw German Germans in Germany (many with higher education) -work in wardrobes, cleaners, etc.
          In the West, confirming a diploma is a huge work and money. And when you confirm-: in FIG, you do not need anyway, your experts in stories-above the roof.
          So there they "do not understand" and "do not appreciate"
          1. marline
            marline 18 January 2018 12: 54
            +4
            Quote: Olgovich
            But who needs her there with her Russian diploma?

            That's for sure. It’s just that I didn’t try to joke so well.
            But seriously, it seems that the whole letter is sheer lies ... was written by a person who remotely, according to the stories of friends, tries to give out a tearful story about how "he lives badly in Raska and in general it’s necessary to bring down ...".
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 18 January 2018 16: 23
              +2
              Quote: merlin
              That's for sure. It’s just that I didn’t try to joke so well.

              It is quite successful and understandable.
              Quote: merlin
              But seriously, it seems that the whole letter is sheer lies ... was written by a person who remotely, according to the stories of friends, tries to give out a tearful story about how "he lives badly in Raska and in general it’s necessary to bring down ...".

              A letter from a loser, for whom everything around is to blame for her failures, but not herself
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 21 January 2018 01: 44
                +1
                It's funny to hear this from a monarchist who is to blame for all the troubles of the Communists. laughing
            2. passerby5
              passerby5 21 January 2018 18: 06
              0
              gelding yourself where do you live? the campaign also broke away from reality. drive to any secondary provincial school or hospital. chat with people working there. school, if without experience, from 11 tyr. the hospital is about the same. the kindergarten is simply from the minimum wage. (Then less is impossible). or you’ll also suggest everyone to go into business as our respected dimdim
              1. marline
                marline 22 January 2018 11: 15
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                Quote: passerby5
                gelding yourself where do you live? the campaign also broke away from reality. drive to any secondary provincial school or hospital. chat with people working there. school, if without experience, from 11 tyr. the hospital is about the same. the kindergarten is simply from the minimum wage. (Then less is impossible). or you’ll also suggest everyone to go into business as our respected dimdim

                Before criticizing the education system: learn to read carefully, write competently and politely address strangers.
                I have enough acquaintances and friends working in both high and high school. In addition, I worked long enough in the education system to have an opinion. I am well acquainted with how the defenses go to the degree, and what path the applicant goes to the defense. And on the basis of this experience, I made my conclusion: the letter is false.
                What experience do you have? Well, except - "one grandmother said infa 100%"
      4. Sapiens 63
        Sapiens 63 18 January 2018 22: 54
        0
        Quote: Olgovich
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        this article to the Kremlin ... you can collect the signature. we have a category of people "in pink glasses", or just comfortable, those who yell "we are fine," and those who are not good are exposed as whiners and liberals

        If you want to find out. what is “bad” - live in the former republics of the USSR. And then the nagging will stop.
        To work for her as a teacher, it is martyrdom and humiliating (collective farm nag "). So insulting millions of Russian teachers, you must completely lose your conscience. Also, I am an Arabian horse! Who admitted that she is a horse, not a nag?
        Judging by the refusals, the ignorance of the foreign, the singleness and childlessness, she is still a nag with exorbitant pride ..
        Let him leave and make a worthy career - dishwasher, breakdown, etc.
        1. Sapiens 63
          Sapiens 63 18 January 2018 22: 59
          0
          And you still compare with Zimbabwe life in the richest country in the world, which in the number of billionaires and stolen money will soon come first. Maybe we will compare with developed countries.? That profession is a teacher and respected and highly paid. And the fact that you are so talking about a smart and honest girl speaks of your extremely low mental development, you are probably just out of luck with the teachers.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 19 January 2018 08: 47
            +1
            Quote: Sapiens 63
            And you still compare with Zimbabwe life in the richest country in the world, which by the number of billionaires and stolen money will come first soon.

            Come when it becomes reality, not chatter
            Quote: Sapiens 63
            can we compare with developed countries.?

            To compare with the developed ones, it was necessary to develop the way the developed ones developed, and not come to a disaster for 91 years- in peacetime
            Quote: Sapiens 63
            And the fact that you are so talking about a smart and honest girl speaks of your extremely low mental development, apparently you were just unlucky with the teachers.

            And the fact that you judge her by one slippery letter speaks of your lack of mental development in general
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 21 January 2018 01: 47
              +1
              But you can judge then? Although, perhaps, yes, you and I have not some kind of aristocracy here you can have.
          2. passerby5
            passerby5 21 January 2018 18: 08
            0
            support
      5. a housewife
        a housewife 19 January 2018 11: 23
        +3
        In Soviet times, the teacher’s salary was approximately 150-170 rubles. And more than two hundred - and this is exactly having gathered a cool guide, one and a half bets, an extended day group and circles. This is now normal, no different. You can also dial about 30 thousand. And there are men at school. My swat works all my life at school. Gets 30 thousand. My daughter's classmate also works at school. My daughter is a history teacher. The download is incomplete, it works for the second year. So she has 4 days off a week. Salary - 10. But the system when the director distributes the salary without offending his beloved, must be destroyed! While she is, teachers will have low salaries. And this girl, the author of the letter, let her ride! If she were a physicist, maybe she would have made a career somewhere there! A Russian history teacher is needed in Russia. Arabian horse! The horses were always needed to show off. These are cars now. And for centuries, the economy has rested on work horses!
        1. zyzx
          zyzx 20 January 2018 14: 15
          0
          Do you understand the difference in mindset between a physicist and a historian?
      6. passerby5
        passerby5 21 January 2018 18: 01
        0
        Well, not everything is known in comparison of course. but that doesn’t mean let's go back to live in caves. lived there too. and there was no hot water, etc. there you can ponder what to speculate. and so is the 21st century in the yard
    5. Lexus
      Lexus 18 January 2018 10: 47
      +2
      this article to the Kremlin ... you can collect the signature. we have a pink glasses category of people

      From Chopard, Dolce & Gabbana, Bulgari ... Fat and the common people are despised.
    6. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 18 January 2018 10: 52
      +3
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      this article to the Kremlin ... you can collect signatures

      So what?
      They all know and understand perfectly, but the system is built in such a way that it cannot be changed without the “general approval” of the leading members. You will be very surprised when you look at what the Minister of Education can do with regard to this education. About financing - in general, who develops and adopts our budget?
      Until this system is broken through the knee, like Chubais communism in the Russian Federation, everything will be exactly the same.
    7. CONTROL
      CONTROL 18 January 2018 11: 09
      +2
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      this article to the Kremlin ... you can collect the signature. .

      There are such "articles" and "letters of appeal ..." do you know how many? Only I - not the most, I think, an active "social activist" - I collected signatures four times to four "letters" ...
      1. mgero
        mgero 18 January 2018 11: 42
        -1
        Skolko zdes liberalov sabralos? A NAS i zdes neploxo kprmjat!
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 18 January 2018 13: 16
          +2
          Quote: mgero
          Skolko zdes liberalov sabralos? A NAS i zdes neploxo kprmjat!

          ... do not bother, let me chew!
  2. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 18 January 2018 07: 02
    +8
    Here the problem is most likely not in the state, but in the system - money has become more expensive than a person. And it’s better to have money in the family than to get to a decent person ...
  3. Pavil144
    Pavil144 18 January 2018 07: 25
    +9
    THEY say that they lifted Russia from its knees after zero, in my opinion neither of which changes, or changes only for the worse.
  4. betta
    betta 18 January 2018 08: 05
    +5
    I agree with the author that the mess, but I do not agree with the heroine of the letter. We have schools and teachers who really create and give to children. She gave up and decided to earn extra money abroad, do not give a damn about the children. And which of them will be a detail of geniuses? Having left the country for money, it’s not a fact that he will find there what he wants. I would find a school where we could prove and create. In a nutshell.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 18 January 2018 09: 21
      +9
      Quote: betta
      She gave up and decided to earn extra money abroad, do not give a damn about the children.
      Children are children, but something also needs to be eaten. And pay for the apartment. And to start their children, the author is still a girl. She will feed herself and her child a lot on this snf ?! Well, if the husband will earn money normally, and if not?
      Quote: betta
      And which of them will be a detail of geniuses?
      You ask the president and the minister of education this question, not a simple teacher.
      Quote: betta
      I would find a school where we could prove myself
      I wouldn’t find the same adder everywhere.
      1. betta
        betta 18 January 2018 09: 41
        +4
        Strongly disagree. Some are like taxi drivers in the film, Brother 2, they only scold, others do. I read and saw a lot of videos about people who transformed others into themselves, raising them spiritually higher. It has long been known, Change yourself, and the whole world will change around. And it’s bad with us just because there are more whiners and silent people.
        1. uskrabut
          uskrabut 18 January 2018 10: 09
          +6
          "Whining" this young teacher did not start from a good life. She studied honestly, works honestly, only she is dishonorably paid. But she also needs to give birth to a child, and preferably not one, and raise, and raise, and need to live somewhere, and for something ...... She does not work in commerce, so "whining" is not about her. Just our power to spit on people and their problems.
          1. betta
            betta 18 January 2018 10: 30
            +2
            You can’t talk about power, we live in one country. Maybe she’s not doing her job? Since she could not organize the space around herself, then she lives wrong? If a person does not do anything to change for the better (and she is), then it turns out that ,, whiner ,,. And the salary has nothing to do with it. Not only one does not have much, but one who wants more. In other matters, this is a useless conversation; you cannot fill the Internet with words. Anyway, everyone will remain at his own.
          2. Victor N
            Victor N 19 January 2018 11: 16
            0
            The authorities should not deal with the structure of life of individual citizens - this is their own life task. Life in science is an endless competition where, under the conditions, losers must be. Lost - change your profession. This is the strict law of life.
        2. zyzx
          zyzx 20 January 2018 14: 16
          0
          Well, yes, to change the world around you, you must first pay and eat for the apartment.
      2. betta
        betta 18 January 2018 09: 46
        0
        I found about a rural school. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaMa3B5m_iU
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 18 January 2018 08: 06
    +8
    Time to collect stones ...
    ... No one ... the parishioners scattered around the cities ... they are looking for treasures ... What the author wrote, something like this at our enterprise ... Specialists in a good sense of the word, one or two were too short ... The rest, acquaintances of acquaintances, relatives .. They don’t work, they get paid ... Specialists work for them ... Why do they need it ..
  6. Loess
    Loess 18 January 2018 08: 23
    +7
    Once he went on a business trip, exactly to Voronezh and rode. A companion neighbor, a Muscovite, said that her neighbor is just a teacher at school, either retirement or pre-retirement age, receives 50 thousand rubles. 5-6 years ago it was. At the same time, she said that her son earns the same 50 thousand, but, according to her, for Moscow it’s a penny. Moreover, as it turned out, she herself was a refugee, from where she didn’t say, she received an apartment from the state. At the same time, personally, neither at that time, nor now in my province did I receive and do not receive fifty dollars, and I do not even hope ...
    1. passerby5
      passerby5 21 January 2018 18: 18
      0
      there teachers receive Moscow supplements. which as you understand it does not apply to Voronezh)))
  7. free
    free 18 January 2018 08: 27
    +3
    Why so? Ask yourself this question! As Comrade Stalin said, “every mistake has a last name,” everyone knows these last names. So is it time to change them?
    1. Dzmicer
      Dzmicer 18 January 2018 08: 39
      +4
      So is it time to change them?

      To do this, you need to violate a whole bunch of articles of the Criminal Code - one of your comments already draws on Part 1 of Art. 280. Or do you think that power in the Russian Federation can be changed with the help of “elections”? laughing
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 18 January 2018 11: 48
        +3
        Quote: Dzmicer
        So is it time to change them?

        To do this, you need to violate a whole bunch of articles of the Criminal Code - one of your comments already draws on Part 1 of Art. 280.

        This is not an "article"!
        There is no call for a change of power "by terrorist means" ... So - everything is in the way!
        1. Dzmicer
          Dzmicer 18 January 2018 12: 21
          +2
          Not the point. This I mean that one person can not do anything against the system.
          The system does not allow organizing itself in "interest groups" - it even rams up the loyalists to zero.
  8. Dzmicer
    Dzmicer 18 January 2018 08: 31
    +7
    Her further fate? If he fulfills his promise and leaves the country, then perhaps he will be able to find himself somewhere. Somewhere, but not in Russia!

    This is the essence of the system of controlled poverty operating in the post-Soviet space: in addition to oil, gas, metals and grain, the “colony” of the Russian Federation also supplies its “masters” with their best human capital — their best specialists in all fields, be they scientists, teachers, engineers programmers. All specialists who are able to learn a foreign language. Because what is the point of working here for beggarly salaries, when doing the same work you can get ten times more?
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 18 January 2018 12: 02
      +4
      Quote: Dzmicer
      Her further fate? If he fulfills his promise and leaves the country, then perhaps he will be able to find himself somewhere. Somewhere, but not in Russia!

      Before the New Year, I talked with a "relative" - ​​the son of a brother-in-law from the Baltic states. Son - graduated from high school, traveled to the USA - tried to study; returned - spit yellow saliva on their "education" and "democracy" ... Now he has left to "finish his studies" in England - he lives there in a small campus. Grunts - lives in a room with an Englishman; here he is - a scum and a loafer at least ... The town itself is also dirty, even by provincial Russian standards; Yes, and "teaching" at the university - .....
      The kid, meanwhile, was born and raised in the Baltic states; a little - Russophobe! supposedly - this Raska ... the invaders ... and maybe not a little ... I was in Russia once, 10 years ago - at my place. And now it’s aching: somehow I’ll endure this year! in this English garbage can with these Englishmen ... He stuck to a group of Russian students who are "on exchange" there - well, they are only three months old ...
      Here I feel - his "Russophobia" by itself will disappear - from such and such a life! ...
  9. soldier
    soldier 18 January 2018 08: 40
    24
    Is it time to change domestic policy priorities

    It's time to start domestic politics
    No external “successes” compensate for internal devastation
    Priorities to change - author rights
    1. Pavil144
      Pavil144 18 January 2018 09: 26
      +6
      Why, they are still engaged in domestic politics, their whole policy is how to patch holes in the budget at the expense of the people.
      1. uskrabut
        uskrabut 18 January 2018 10: 03
        +3
        Quote: Pavil144
        how to patch holes in the budget at the expense of the people.


        Elementary! For 2017, they didn’t pay me 40 tr, the rest from my department from 20 to 30 tr, while the payroll did not decrease. Only this money did not go to the budget, but to a pocket with a specific surname, name and patronymic.
      2. Dzmicer
        Dzmicer 18 January 2018 10: 25
        +4
        their whole policy is how to patch holes in the budget at the expense of the people

        This is only half of "their policy." The second half - the formation of holes in the budget through the privatization of taxpayer funds and their withdrawal in offshore))
  10. Korsar4
    Korsar4 18 January 2018 09: 02
    +3
    And there is. And in universities. And when they systematically reduce the teaching staff, and when do graduate school paid. No renewal - no prospects for the system.

    And about school. He began to read the book by Mikhail Tarkovsky "Flight of the Owl." Very close.
  11. uskrabut
    uskrabut 18 January 2018 10: 01
    +7
    “For a salary of 12 thousand rubles for one and a half rates, where no one cares about the quality of teaching the subject, but only the ratings that can be obtained for participating in olympiads, online contests, appearances at pedagogical councils. I visited all sides of the education barricades, except unfortunately or fortunately, of senior management, and I am well aware that, given the current tendencies of segregation and social Darwinism, a specialist who just knows his job well and who is not “selling services” and not being someone’s protégé will be the reason techniques, are the ranks of the "collective nags, not Arabian horses"

    The truth is really naked and cruel! Examples of horror how many. And the guarantor answers questions every year, and every year the questions are the same. He does nothing to the campaign to cope, then why should I trust and support him?
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 18 January 2018 10: 06
      +9
      Quote: uskrabut
      And the guarantor answers questions every year, and every year the questions are the same. He does nothing to the campaign to cope, then why should I trust and support him?
      As an example, his attitude to rising gas prices during his reign hi
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 18 January 2018 12: 06
        +2
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        ] As an example, his attitude to rising gas prices during his reign

        ... this music will be eternal
        if i replace the batteries
        this music will be eternal
        if I replace the batteries ...

        Author: I. V. Kormiltsev
  12. tasha
    tasha 18 January 2018 10: 01
    +2
    Written talented, written emotionally ..
    I wonder what would be the reaction of the author and readers of VO if the letter were not from a graduate of the Faculty of History, but from a communications manager or a graduate with a degree in Real Estate Appraisal, for example?

    There, on neighboring branches, professional historians generally throw stones. Conjuncturists, they say and understand nothing .. wink
    1. Pavil144
      Pavil144 18 January 2018 10: 24
      +1
      Wait, we’ll live, and they will write such articles about managers.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 18 January 2018 12: 09
      +2
      Quote: tasha
      I wonder what would be the reaction of the author and readers of VO if the letter were not from a graduate of the Faculty of History, but from a communications manager or a graduate with a degree in Real Estate Appraisal, for example?

      I am offered a job: ... Manager for sales of vip-real estate ... salary from 100 tyrov!
      ... but they don’t say - down from 100 or up? It seems - deep down !!!
  13. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 18 January 2018 10: 16
    +1
    And here no one and no one needs anyone, unless you work for someone’s PR or do not generate income. What about emigration? Well, everyone has their own choice. Our historians are hardly needed there. In the nurse's or dishwasher-velcom! And the pink glasses must be removed. Yes.
  14. Fight
    Fight 18 January 2018 10: 19
    0
    Quote: free
    Why so? Ask yourself this question! As Comrade Stalin said, “every mistake has a last name,” everyone knows these last names. So is it time to change them?

    Of course there are surnames! These are your relatives, neighbors, friends, do not take personally to yourself, this is figurative! The headmaster, the head physician, these are people living near you! .. That's all the names!
  15. Fight
    Fight 18 January 2018 10: 21
    +2
    Quote: uskrabut
    “For a salary of 12 thousand rubles for one and a half rates, where no one cares about the quality of teaching the subject, but only the ratings that can be obtained for participating in olympiads, online contests, appearances at pedagogical councils. I visited all sides of the education barricades, except unfortunately or fortunately, of senior management, and I am well aware that, given the current tendencies of segregation and social Darwinism, a specialist who just knows his job well and who is not “selling services” and not being someone’s protégé will be the reason techniques, are the ranks of the "collective nags, not Arabian horses"

    The truth is really naked and cruel! Examples of horror how many. And the guarantor answers questions every year, and every year the questions are the same. He does nothing to the campaign to cope, then why should I trust and support him?

    Does he answer exactly ?! There is sheer verbiage!
    1. Dzmicer
      Dzmicer 18 January 2018 10: 30
      +3
      The guarantor admitted that he had committed direct treason - and even henna.
      V. Putin: “We, as you know, even at the time in 2014 began the transfer of military property and equipment. Several echelons were sent from Crimea to Ukraine. The Ukrainian side has repeatedly raised the issue of the return of military equipment from the Crimea. Taking an opportunity, as they say, I want to say that we are ready to continue this process. We are ready to transfer warships to Ukraine, which are still in the Crimea, ready to transfer aircraft and armored vehicles. True, she is all in such a deplorable state, but this is no longer our business, she was practically like that, over the years she was not served by anyone, of course. But we are talking about dozens of ships, dozens of combat aircraft. ”

      If this is not a high treason (as our respected overseas partners say), then what else?
      And the man does not hide this, he speaks directly, openly about the shameful fact of the transfer of weapons to the “Kiev fascist junta”, which then killed pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass, perhaps with the same weapon!
      In this connection, I personally have very big doubts about the mental health of the "guarantor" and its adequacy.
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  17. Alex66
    Alex66 18 January 2018 10: 23
    +2
    All right, we are not needed by the state and there will be no gratitude to us. To take the same pension is a gratitude for many years of diligent work: who receives the greatest gratitude to officials, high-ranking security officials, and who is the smallest, and those who rob from the vastness of our vast country under their supervision and guidance, those who are forced to take sn in envelopes , work part-time, according to abbreviated schedules, and these are the doctors who treat and the teachers who teach and the workers who work and rob them all, they pay only for food, clothing and utilities.
  18. Fight
    Fight 18 January 2018 10: 27
    0
    Quote: Alex66
    All right, we are not needed by the state and there will be no gratitude to us. To take the same pension is a gratitude for many years of diligent work: who receives the greatest gratitude to officials, high-ranking security officials, and who is the smallest, and those who rob from the vastness of our vast country under their supervision and guidance, those who are forced to take sn in envelopes , work part-time, according to abbreviated schedules, and these are the doctors who treat and the teachers who teach and the workers who work and rob them all, they pay only for food, clothing and utilities.

    Doctors ?! Yesterday I was in the clinic, I am on sick leave! Fills out, medic, sick leave and does not know how to ask a colleague that she also does not know! I almost fell off a chair when she turned to Google request
    1. Pavil144
      Pavil144 18 January 2018 10: 33
      +1
      No one taught the physician, because there is no one to teach.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 18 January 2018 12: 47
      +1
      Quote: Fight
      Doctors ?! Yesterday I was in the clinic, I am on sick leave! Fills out, medic, sick leave and does not know how to ask a colleague that she also does not know! I almost fell off a chair when she turned to Google request

      This is the norm!
      They don’t know - because the form of sick leave - the "disability sheets" - is changing all the time, and filling them is so complicated ... They spoil them - 15%; and to change - according to a special application through the head physician, they are all numbered, encoded, the strictest reporting! Or, in a simple way - a madhouse ...
  19. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 18 January 2018 10: 59
    +7
    Also. Let’s count. 28 years. Of these, I gave education 11 years (cool). From 11 years-5 years, the university, 3 years of graduate school, remains ... 3 years of work at school. 3 years are not few? We want at once and a lot. In the country of the Russian Federation, state system is capitalism. Accordingly (honestly) nobody really needs anyone except himself. And knowing this, going to the "not popular" historical faculty, then graduating from graduate school without prospects. It is unclear. So either super fans and pros in the subject can act in our society, or simply from nothing to do. And where with the story? Salaries will not be big fact, didn’t she know? At school in the beginning there was always a minimum, and after increasing the length of service and increase in salaries, didn’t she know? In general, the girl drove herself into a corner, and everyone is guilty. I need to think. Nevertheless, she’s going to emigrate .Where? With this education in London? And who to work with? Not by profile, then why all this previous training. In general, the article is "populistly" written in anticipation of the elections. However, the problem of education is acute, and not an unimportant topic in this problem - teacher pay.
  20. Gardamir
    Gardamir 18 January 2018 11: 25
    +2
    It has already begun. They began to promise. Will people forgive the arrogant "go to business"?
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 19 January 2018 13: 54
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      It has already begun. They began to promise. Will people forgive the arrogant "go to business"?

      With these people you can do what you want, what TV will say, then you will do!
  21. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 11: 28
    +4
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    this article to the Kremlin ... you can collect the signature. we have a category of people "in pink glasses", or just comfortable, those who yell, "we are fine"


    do you think he doesn’t know? He knows, but he’s on the drum
  22. groks
    groks 18 January 2018 11: 28
    +1
    Staver = quality mark. Absolutely agree.
  23. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 11: 30
    0
    Quote: Dzmicer
    At the same time, I am sure that the head physician will have a salary of about half a million per month plus bonuses.

    are you sure about this I know that they have no less lemon. Rollbacks "up" must be done. The amount you specify is for small hospitals
  24. Overlock
    Overlock 18 January 2018 11: 35
    0
    Quote: Olgovich
    If you want to find out. what is “bad” - live in the former republics of the USSR.

    why compare? Everyone voted for self-determination
  25. nikvic46
    nikvic46 18 January 2018 11: 57
    +4
    We sculpt capitalism according to the American pattern. Only here the difference is this. A good specialist, "who carries the gold
    eggs, "the entrepreneur will never dismiss. Many countries have renounced American capitalism. And some capitalist countries can hardly be called such. In Norway, the posters" Who does not work, do not eat, do not hang. "But the tax authorities
    so vigilantly watching those who are too cunning and work in the gray business, that such people face a prison.
    As for migrants, they are being expelled from the country. And there are many such countries. And we are fixated on the criminal business, and this system does not need to be broken. It is not viable. We sell our resources at such a price that it’s not a sin to buy them, and then at an exorbitant price
    resell. This is usually done with third world countries.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 January 2018 08: 24
      0
      Quote: nikvic46
      We sculpt capitalism according to the American pattern

      What is it like? Do we place the most high-tech industries only at home, or print money for the whole world, or buy the best brains around the world, or attract wealthy immigrants ??? wassat
      as they said in the GDR, everything we were told about communism turned out to be fiction, but what they said about capitalism turned out to be true.
      1. nikvic46
        nikvic46 19 January 2018 14: 17
        0
        In the GDR, they lived smarter than in the USSR. And by the way, talk with East Germans, they may not be very
        politely object to you.
    2. Petr1968
      Petr1968 19 January 2018 13: 53
      +1
      Quote: nikvic46
      A good specialist who carries gold
      eggs, "the entrepreneur will never fire.

      Even as he fired. Not replaceable no. The main thing is loyalty and worship to the authorities, and if you are special, but do not honor the boss, you should not work. Believe me.
  26. AleBors
    AleBors 18 January 2018 12: 14
    +3
    Very sad. But it really is. And, unfortunately, the prospects for changing the situation are not visible.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 January 2018 08: 26
      0
      Quote: AleBors
      Unfortunately, the prospects for changing the situation are not visible.

      The prospect will appear if the government is puzzled by the problem of protecting the Internal Market from the World. Then the learned girls will have a perspective.
  27. faiver
    faiver 18 January 2018 12: 38
    +4
    after reading all this, only obscene words beg ... How can I pay the teacher 12tys. rubles? or doctor 15thousand? but the wizard of Siluans, who was about to turn Russia into Norway, received 2016mln back in 1,7. rubles a month ... this is a real mockery, vote further for Putin and edro ... cheers comrades ...
  28. Brigadier
    Brigadier 18 January 2018 12: 43
    +5
    "Now there is an election campaign. They will promise us, just as before, golden mountains, milk rivers with jelly banks and other stars from the sky. Promise in the hope of our forgetfulness."
    The author is right. If you don’t want the same “stagnation” that we have had for the last 7-10 years and further sliding into poverty (though, where so much further?), Then there is only one solution VOTE FOR BREAST !!!
    1. faiver
      faiver 18 January 2018 13: 16
      +2
      and I don’t believe this collective farmer-speculator ...
      1. Pavil144
        Pavil144 18 January 2018 14: 22
        +3
        Now people do not believe much, because they have not heard the truth for a long time.
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    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 January 2018 08: 19
      0
      Quote: Brigadier
      If you don’t want the same “stagnation” that we have had for the last 7-10 years

      you do not own a situation. Stagnation with us since 1968. And he is not quoted
  29. AID.S
    AID.S 18 January 2018 14: 26
    +1
    Confession of an unrecognized genius. And who promised that it would be easy? She just started working at school and wants everything at once. In the public sector, few people have everything at once. I would prepare several winners of school olympiads, I would feel the difference, I’m sure for some reason.
    1. faiver
      faiver 18 January 2018 15: 06
      +3
      excuse me but work for 12thousand? I am ready to spit in the face to the one who pays the teacher so much, even to the young ...
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 18 January 2018 18: 04
        +3
        You can also spit on many managers, for example, Russian Post, many entrepreneurs for such salaries from employees, many FSUE managers .... I'm afraid you will not have enough saliva! wink
        1. faiver
          faiver 18 January 2018 18: 30
          0
          I'm talking about doctors and teachers - the state pays them, and if the first person said that teachers and doctors should get above the regional average, then this should be so, otherwise why do we need such a head of state?
          as for the mail, yeah, there are questions ..., I don’t have any questions about entrepreneurs, I’ve already been a few years old, yeah I remember they called me zavgar to the UFSIN city salary I voiced, I sent them - a weekly salary taxi driver ..
      2. Petr1968
        Petr1968 19 January 2018 13: 51
        0
        Quote: faiver
        excuse me but work for 12thousand? I am ready to spit in the face to the one who pays the teacher so much, even to the young ...

        If you want to earn money, go into business or politics.
        1. faiver
          faiver 19 January 2018 14: 17
          +1
          don't tell me what to do and I won’t tell you where to go hi
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 January 2018 08: 18
      0
      Quote: AID.S
      Confession of an unrecognized genius. And who promised that it would be easy?

      And what topic of protection did she have? If she was worried about this topic, she would have written.
  30. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 18 January 2018 14: 47
    +2
    Quote: Stroporez
    In health care, the situation is as shitty as in education.

    rocking the boat again? Around the enemy does not sleep, and you ... Oh, people!
    "Putin is always alive
    Putin is always with you
    In grief, hope and joy - and - and - and!
    Putin in your dream
    In every happy day
    Putin is in you and in me! "
  31. Altona
    Altona 18 January 2018 14: 53
    +2
    Quote: Winnie76
    Regarding the girls. The country is objectively crisis overproduction of humanitarian. Lawyers, economists, historians, philologists. Nobody wants to study physics and mathematics. When she went to study as a historian, what place did she think? How did you imagine future work? She will sit in the archives, then write reports, and then receive decent money? And if there are thousands of such girls. In the field of history, philology and all others. And each such girl wants to satisfy her own curiosity at public expense. And what is the use of such girls for the state?

    -------------------------------------------------
    Do not immediately throw stones into the garden of this particular girl. The girl was doing what she was interested in. And the girl writes that there is no selection other than feudal in the country. If the girl was a radio physicist, then you would write "what place did the girl think, in the country there are no corresponding factories or vacancies." There are no retraining systems in the country either. There is primitive, if you are sent from the employment center to a hairdresser to learn or to a computer operator, to print in Word. That's all.
    1. a.sirin
      a.sirin 18 January 2018 17: 54
      +2
      In science, people do what they want, Marshal. This is the basis of science - curiosity and interest. If you still do not understand this, I am sorry for you.
      Like Russia.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 19 January 2018 07: 56
        0
        Quote: a.sirin
        In science, people do what they want, Marshal. This is the basis of science - curiosity and interest. If you still do not understand this, I am sorry for you.

        Since the beginning of the nineties, in science, people are only engaged in what they want money. And money does not want science in Russia.
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 19 January 2018 08: 40
        +2
        Quote: a.sirin
        In science, people do what they want, Marshal. This is the basis of science - curiosity and interest.

        The basis of science is curiosity and interest, strictly subordinate to the program approved by the higher scientific council and regularly and zealously serving the bank, company or state structure that finances the budget of “curious scientists” ...
        -------------------------------
        and out of "curiosity and interest" one can only and exclusively open and create a cho-thread "epoch-making", like a perpetual motion machine ...
        1. a.sirin
          a.sirin 19 January 2018 17: 18
          +1
          Tell the Game about it with Novoselov. And dig from the grave of Feyman, Landau, Einstein. You better not talk about science, not yours
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 20 January 2018 12: 35
            0
            Do you know how many Einsteins are in madhouses? I personally saw one, it is simply impossible to win in chess! I checked it with a computer! But ordinary science is plagiarized, for more than 60 years no discovery has been made. The graduate school accepts ambitious students, they determine the topic for half a year, and for the sake of two, supposedly “scientific” lines in the conclusions, after a year or two, they give out “scientists” to the mountain. Which obviously lose to patients of psychiatric hospitals. And curiosity and interest are memories of Soviet childhood. Or the feeling of a new smartphone laughing
            1. a.sirin
              a.sirin 20 January 2018 21: 06
              +2
              In Russia, yes. Fortunately, there are many other places in the world.
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 20 January 2018 23: 03
                0
                Quote: a.sirin
                In Russia, yes. Fortunately, there are many other places in the world.

                Unfortunately
                1. a.sirin
                  a.sirin 22 January 2018 18: 07
                  +1
                  You are mistaken. Otherwise, those who want to do science, but cannot - in Russia - would only have to hang themselves
  32. seacap
    seacap 18 January 2018 15: 28
    +3
    All kinds of stupid and endless economic forums with well-fed and self-righteous experts broadcasting how good things are with us and happy with our leaders who give in to them are very annoying. zero, and all the funds will still remain there in that economy of “our partners” or in offshore, in villas, yachts, etc. All our colonial business, like its servants, is not without personal interest, it’s a lie, a lie , various schemes and understandings. An official is a dynastic enterprise riddled with nepotism and money according to a well-established scheme, strangers are not needed there, because people are creative and thinking, not for this the education and upbringing system is destroyed and an “advanced consumer” is brought up, not for this, the school and the entire system of human education and upbringing were reduced to the provision of services, in order to grow a creative and competent society in the colony, to cherish and cherish talents, otherwise olonia will not be a colony and will remember her national identity and her role in the world and will begin to ask questions and look for answers, that is, having learned her real story, and not written by enemies under Peter and Catherine, which according to the Slavic calendar is more 7000 years
  33. turbris
    turbris 18 January 2018 17: 13
    +1
    "A strange feeling was caused by one letter that my friends gave me. I do not know the author of the letter. Moreover, I did not even try to meet her." Actually, it was more honest all the same to indicate the author of the letter, otherwise someone handed over, I do not want to know who. No one says that in budgetary organizations everything is fine with pay, but changes are taking place and for this you just need to ask the same doctors and teachers, and not use rumors of 5 years ago. Of course, in big cities they have higher salaries, but there are more responsibilities. The thing is different, what is the purpose of writing an article? Caring for ordinary people, so why this concern is shown only in the pre-election period. Of course, I completely agree with this: “We must write, speak, shout about the need to change the vector of the country's domestic policy today. A person, a simple person with his problems and needs, should be at the head of all further transformations,” but the author does not refer anywhere to the current government, because there are many presidential candidates, and it is from them that promises of golden mountains and dairy rivers are now coming. But our bloggers were about to send an article to the Kremlin, you first listen to what the representatives of other parties promise, then you will need the “pink glasses" yourself. No one will object to the opinion of those who have "everything is bad," but you don’t have to shift all the blame to the authorities, if everything is bad, you’ve moved a bit to improve the situation, but just voting about it on the site is an empty lesson.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 18 January 2018 17: 28
      +1
      Personally, I'm not here for you cool dude. Well, I’ve already spoken twice to both Avigdor and Sophia (Minister of Aliyah) one on one. For 3 years. And I'm not a member of the Knesset. Ordinary citizen. I wish you good luck too. These are the foundations of democracy. Every stubborn has an influence.
      1. turbris
        turbris 18 January 2018 17: 41
        0
        Well talked so what? Something has changed? Were any decisions made based on the results of your conversation? And what were you talking about, personal, or raised some pressing issues? And are these the basics of democracy? How do you understand democracy one-sidedly or just work for the public?
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 18 January 2018 18: 54
          0
          No, here we really considered issues of small business. And specifically, for those who came from the former union. Everything is complicated, but solvable. We want specialists to be in demand.
          1. turbris
            turbris 19 January 2018 21: 12
            0
            Shahno - of course no one forbids wanting, but according to my data, nothing has changed and it is still difficult for specialists from the former Union to confirm their education and find a job in their specialty, therefore one does not need to portray oneself as a participant in the government, enjoying the benefits of democracy. In Israel, many have friends and relatives, so do not drive the blizzard.
    2. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 18 January 2018 18: 01
      +1
      So here, too, often the "daughters of combat officers" write and nothing, no personalities. You Turbris from them and ask: Whose will you be? wink
  34. a.sirin
    a.sirin 18 January 2018 17: 53
    +1
    To change the vector you need money. Money can be more or less suitable to receive (without VOSR and GV) only by taking from the military-industrial complex and various parasites - such as the Russian Guard.
    If this is done, then the current "paradigm of survival in a hostile environment" will collapse. The classic phrase "... and the king is naked!" will get a new content.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 19 January 2018 13: 50
      0
      Quote: a.sirin
      To change the vector you need money.

      No, you need a leader!
      1. a.sirin
        a.sirin 19 January 2018 17: 19
        +1
        It’s like someone. Someone is building his own fate, someone is following the instructions
  35. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 18 January 2018 17: 59
    +4
    Alexander, I dare to assure you that, as the girl described, now in many areas of our lives. Power to the bulb these problems, they, together with the president, are focused on earning money. These "fat cats" use all sorts of Kohl from Urengoy in order to earn even more money. They wanted to spit on doctors and teachers, and they needed an army with the Russian Guard to protect a narrow circle of people from the people and invaders. But how much they sing before the election! Their words pour like honey, like molasses they fill the minds of non-critical people.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 18 January 2018 18: 04
      +1
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Their words pour like honey, like molasses they fill the minds of non-critical people.

      Listen to demographics.
    2. a.sirin
      a.sirin 18 January 2018 21: 35
      +1
      As the people say, “alas! But you are right!”
  36. Altona
    Altona 18 January 2018 19: 46
    0
    Quote: a.sirin
    In science, people do what they want, Marshal. This is the basis of science - curiosity and interest. If you still do not understand this, I am sorry for you.
    Like Russia.

    -----------------------------------
    I somehow do not care if you feel sorry for me or not. I just say that the girl was educated and there were vacancies in her profile, but they did not go to her. If you do not understand this, then I am sorry for you. I see there are a lot of gray-haired men who like to teach young girls, instead of helping them with employment. No need to be a hypocrite and a hypocrite.
    1. a.sirin
      a.sirin 18 January 2018 21: 39
      +1
      If I hurt you with something, I apologize. Apparently, I did not understand you correctly. (It seemed to me that you did not approve of her scientific choice).
      As for "help in finding a job", I’m busy with robotics, so her profile ... is not ours
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 19 January 2018 08: 33
        +1
        Quote: a.sirin
        As for "help in finding a job", I’m busy with robotics, so her profile ... is not ours

        A diode in a rectifier bridge ... uh ... work, dear?
        1. a.sirin
          a.sirin 19 January 2018 17: 21
          +1
          No, you know ... the owner of the comp. development and production of small manipulators. But you think how you want
  37. Altona
    Altona 18 January 2018 19: 52
    0
    Quote: a.sirin
    To change the vector you need money. Money can be more or less suitable to receive (without VOSR and GV) only by taking from the military-industrial complex and various parasites - such as the Russian Guard.
    If this is done, then the current "paradigm of survival in a hostile environment" will collapse. The classic phrase "... and the king is naked!" will get a new content.

    ----------------------------------------
    They changed the vector. Specifically, Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Nemtsov and a number of liberals were also removed from power. They gave Khodorkovsky a hat. Successfully ate money from his Yukos. And this is good, because the United States promised to remove Hodor, and keep the money from him in dollars. This did not change the paradigm and could not, the "patriotic" security officials and the heads of state corporations also want to eat and there are a lot. They also dump offshore in the USA offshore and successfully degenerate from “patriots” to “globalists”. Only a return to socialism, that is, a change in the social system, can change the vector. Any jumps within the framework of capitalism will quickly return us to the starting position.
    1. a.sirin
      a.sirin 18 January 2018 21: 40
      +3
      I do not believe in socialism ... sorry
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 19 January 2018 07: 52
        0
        Quote: a.sirin
        I do not believe in socialism ... sorry

        In vain! read Parshev, Khodov ...
        1. a.sirin
          a.sirin 19 January 2018 17: 08
          +1
          For 58 years I read a lot of things ... and studied
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 20 January 2018 12: 37
            0
            Quote: a.sirin
            For 58 years I read a lot of things ... and studied

            In vain! Hodov is a science fiction writer. But the philosophy is there !!! Download, I recommend.
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 19 January 2018 08: 28
        +1
        Quote: a.sirin
        I do not believe in socialism ... sorry

        ... Srul Aronovich ... Stanislavsky ???
        1. a.sirin
          a.sirin 19 January 2018 17: 22
          +1
          "tolstonogov"
      3. Petr1968
        Petr1968 19 January 2018 13: 49
        0
        Quote: a.sirin
        I do not believe in socialism ... sorry

        Is there an alternative ??
        1. a.sirin
          a.sirin 19 January 2018 17: 08
          +1
          For me personally, yes
    2. Nehist
      Nehist 19 January 2018 00: 30
      +2
      Unfortunately, it was not the vector that was changed, but only the people who headed this vector
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 January 2018 07: 49
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Only a return to socialism, that is, a change in the social system, can change the vector. Any jumps within the framework of capitalism will quickly return us to the starting position.

      You have a somewhat outdated look. Capitalism is a system in which conditions are created for the development and accumulation of Capital. Proceeding from this, we do not have Capitalism, capitals flee the country ... Socialism is an ideological orientation aimed at increasing the value of socially useful actions to the detriment of personal ones. Give such an ideology legal force in order to create the conditions for the development of socialist capitalism, and we will win! laughing
    4. Victor N
      Victor N 19 January 2018 10: 44
      0
      All modern states are social - they take into account and satisfy the interests of society, but, of course, not all and not fully. Everywhere there are "public goods" that the state distributes for free. It is not necessary to change the “social system”, but to improve the system of distribution of public goods, and honestly pay taxes to increase them.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 20 January 2018 12: 38
        +1
        Quote: Victor N
        All modern states are social - they take into account and satisfy the interests of society,

        Yes! and the merit in this is precisely the Soviet Union.
  38. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 18 January 2018 21: 07
    0
    With actions on the left, the hope of a revival of the right is growing.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 January 2018 07: 42
      0
      Now everything turned upside down that 40 years ago it was left now right.
  39. gladcu2
    gladcu2 19 January 2018 01: 40
    +4
    The author, as well as this girl historian.

    You do not understand the advantages of the Soviet SYSTEM education

    Graduates of the Soviet system in communication with each other with a high probability come to a consensus. Thus, such a system forms a cohesive society. And the country receives a people with a patriotic attitude.
    1. Klaus
      Klaus 21 January 2018 16: 20
      0
      There is one caveat here. Unanimous opinion and a cohesive society, in a very united manner, first voted to preserve the USSR, and then they also buried it in solidarity and silently.
      It is not worth society and society to liken a herd of sheep, unitedly reacting to the shepherd's whip. To such a society it makes no difference who the shepherd is, and where he will lead them ... Significant cost, don’t you?
  40. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 19 January 2018 07: 40
    0
    I read all the comments, I asked myself: - what to do? how without a revolution, without an Idea to improve life and see a future?
    I read the Green Book of Muammar Gaddafi. the same problems. And their decision. For this he was killed.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 19 January 2018 10: 30
      +1
      You need to do everything yourself. And, above all, equip your life, your family. To demand help from someone is foolish and immoral. Social assistance from the state is carried out to the extent possible and only from those resources that we transfer to the budget. And you need to know and remember that now in Russia more than 20 million able-bodied taxes do not pay in fact, but they use social benefits, social infrastructure.
      What EVERYONE of us should do: work for ourselves, pay taxes, participate in elections, express our opinion in an appropriate form.
      AND THE MAIN THING: to strengthen the state (remember Gaddafi!). A weak state will certainly not help anyone.
      Well, you can’t fasten - so at least do not weaken: you don’t like the President — but he was elected — you must respect him, and next time you will vote for another.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 19 January 2018 10: 50
        0
        Quote: Victor N
        You need to do everything yourself

        The state should provide an opportunity for people to do something. The "elite" should not have allowed Russia to turn into a point of sale for second-rate goods, and very expensive yachts. And people having opportunities usually use them
        1. a.sirin
          a.sirin 19 January 2018 17: 14
          +3
          The state (like the elite) owes nothing to anyone. These citizens must control their state, its institutions. If citizens expect that a certain "state" will provide them with something, then the flag is in their hands. In fact, such a “state” will - as an instrument of coercion and enrichment - be used by a group of the most unprincipled and cunning people who will make it in their self-interest - i.e. citizens - a source of their own enrichment.
          It is strange that I, the hereditary “anti ...”, should remind you, for the most part of the Communists, of the conviction:
          "until then, people will remain stupid victims of deception and self-deception in politics, until they learn to distinguish between the interests of certain classes for one or another beautiful words and phrases."
          Lenin
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 21 January 2018 02: 01
            +1
            It is strange that at the same time you are anti. Apparently you have a little logic.
            1. a.sirin
              a.sirin 22 January 2018 18: 13
              +1
              Everything is fine. VIL at the end of time, when I was still thinking something, I said - as you remember, I think - "NEP is seriously and for a long time."
              Why should I not recognize the truth of a person who - at one time - was (in my understanding, of course) - a bastard and a bastard, but then moved on to more or less realistic ideas about life?
              In addition, his words about "people ..." in one form or another were formulated by many Western politicians.
              In general, "... it doesn’t matter what color the cat is - the main thing is that it catches mice" (D.S. Pin)
      2. Klaus
        Klaus 21 January 2018 16: 55
        0
        Your logic is contradictory. The paternalistic nature of relations was established by the state itself.
        Let's be honest: we do not pay taxes, but the state, through employers, TAKES taxes from us. We get salaries after deducting everything. And in the store we also buy goods minus all taxes. And so on on the list.
        That is, in the existing scheme of interaction between society and the state, the state has an unconditional right to a part of our income, but at the same time, according to the constitution, it undertakes to unconditionally provide social guarantees. And everything would be fine, but ...
        The problem is that our state wants to cut two sheep at once: both ordinary people and employers. The latter, in this situation, so as not to be cut off bald, get out of the situation in 2 ways:
        - either go to the "gray" pay scheme
        - either reduce costs by paying their employees.
        In any case, the employee remains in flight. Therefore, the employee, the common man also has 2 ways:
        - as our teacher, endure and eke out a miserable existence
        - go to a gray or black employer.
        You urge us to strengthen the state ... But how to do it, if the state itself stubbornly does not want to "strengthen" ???
        1. a.sirin
          a.sirin 22 January 2018 18: 22
          +1
          I am NOT calling you to anything. The problem of Russia - IMHO, of course - is that people never became citizens, i.e. did not realize their character of this state. Therefore, they want a LEADER (personalization of a certain abstract "justice"), and not an effective management system, all parts and elements of which are accountable to them through elected bodies.
          The state is YOU, not Putin and other subjects of your political activity
          And on paternalism - yes, you are right
  41. Zjiou
    Zjiou 19 January 2018 10: 30
    +1
    I’m reading and understand that I’ve reached the point where there is a burning desire to change something in my country. I live in the Novgorod region, in the 2nd largest city (Borovichi). The population of the city is 54 people. The situation is such that we just want to howl. Once (about 000 years ago), all from neighboring regions came to the district central hospital for treatment, giving birth, and performing operations. Now the situation is such that the doctors in the hospital are stupidly gone. ZP at the doctor 7-20 thousand, at honey. sisters 25-10 thousand. The heads of the doctor 15 thousand rubles. Naturally, no one wants to go to our city because of this RFP. Therefore, everyone goes to be treated, give birth, etc. in V. Novgorod for 200 km. Until last year, there was an excellent maternity ward. At the end of last year, the order was given to the clan. compartment to reduce to 180 emergency beds. A car arrived and all the women in labor were taken to Novgorod. Now everyone is going to give birth to the regional center.
    In the children's clinic of our children, paramedics and nurses without a higher education are treated (examined) because there are no doctors. Salaries in the nursery are the same as in the Central District Hospital.
    With education, the same trouble. My wife works at school. Experience 6 years, higher education, first category. RFP 13-15 thousand. Although the average school RFP 27 rubles. But the director every year carries his entire brood (family) to Egypt, Turkey, Thailand, etc. relax. And my wife and I have not even seen the sea. I’m 500 years old my wife 35. A communal apartment with a kindergarten eats 30 thousand, everything else goes to food and clothes.
    There are no roads. Nobody needs anything. And so in all areas. I'm already tired of all this. Friends, you need to change something. I never went to the polls, but this time I’ll go and bring all my acquaintances and friends. And certainly I won’t vote for the current president! It's time to change something.

    Thank you for understanding. Boiling up.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 January 2018 10: 55
      +1
      Quote: ZJIOu
      Friends, you need to change something.

      did not try to change yourself? when buying, specify whose production? make a choice for Russian, ugly and expensive? We are minimal economic units, similar to each other, creating this chaos, supporting Foreign Money.
  42. Petr1968
    Petr1968 19 January 2018 13: 47
    +1
    A person, a simple person with his problems and needs, should be at the head of all further transformations.
    Liberasts love this .. But at the head of everything should be the interests of the State! Honor, pride and glory of the Country above an individual person ... Otherwise, we will experience the experience of geyropov !!! Putin’s policy is understandable and close to me, unlike liberal whiners about the value of one person. If you have teeth and fists, you will break through. and we don’t need wimps !!
    1. Alexey Z
      Alexey Z 19 January 2018 20: 24
      +1
      Stick your fist at your time. Yes, and teeth at the same time. It's about the right teachers in the country.
  43. tracer
    tracer 21 January 2018 18: 54
    0
    He himself came across a “system” when for participating in combat operations with “illegal armed groups”, injured, he received two coupons for Czech sneakers and a sports suit in TsUME. The medal "came" in 2 or 3 years ... But I did not serve for this. I am for my MOTHERLAND ... Then study at the St. Petersburg University. Unlearned well, and in the same way kicked everywhere and everywhere, and put on my "excellent diploma" all and sundry. From the perspectives, work for a beggarly salary, drenched tightly on a small dormitory dormitory, and out of the joys of life, wearing a medal on a vest on the day of the airborne forces with a drunken snout. Therefore, with my soul, the surname and culture of a deeply Russian person, the flag on the site is not taken away from Russia.
  44. Stepan Kudinov
    Stepan Kudinov 22 January 2018 10: 35
    0
    “We must write, speak, shout about the need to change the vector of the country's domestic policy today” - not the vector, but the Jewish liberals whom the foreign advisers planted. You need to remember your story, remember the struggle of JV Stalin with the “fifth column”, remember what this struggle led to. And these to work on the southern shore of the Laptev Sea to clean up the territories. Without protection, without food and drink. They permeate themselves, according to their own words, foreign ones, calculations. A white Misha will protect them from the evil eye.