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Project "ZZ". Putin’s main opponent is not Grudinin, but national indifference

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The absenteeism of the masses in Russia does not win, foreign experts say. Russians will not be lured to the polls by generous promises and promises of “prizes”, they cannot be overpowered by “creative” Kremlin propaganda, or drawn to ballots and ballot boxes by shrill “shows” on TV. The political apathy of the masses is great, and it is she who is the real opponent of Putin, who decided to rule the state for another six years. A low turnout at the polling stations will indicate a complete failure for the current owner of the Kremlin.




The president of Russia “will win the March 18 election,” columnist Frank Nienhuysen is confident. About this he writes in the newspaper «Süddeutsche Zeitung». Putin’s victory is a decided matter, because he “has long outgrown the state and parties.” In Russia, "apathy begins," says Ninghuizen.

But even if Putin’s victory is predetermined, it doesn’t make the election something calm. Especially for the Kremlin. Putin has a "new adversary" who is "difficult to control." He cannot be defeated by political persecution or exile from television. Who is this?

Not "who", but "what.

This opponent is “the unwillingness of Russians to vote at all,” the author believes. In addition, the refusal scenario is supported by Kremlin’s implacable critic Alexei Navalny: he called on his supporters to boycott the elections.

Kremlin strategists are “very creative” in their attempts to convince citizens to vote in the presidential elections to be held on March 18. First of all, the strategy is aimed at the younger generation, which, “having parted ways with state broadcasting,” has plunged into the abyss of a wide variety of online media. These are the young people who want to interest the Kremlin in elections.



And what are the ways?

Zamanuha. Young people are trying to "encourage" to take selfies at polling stations, and then publish pictures on social networks. The best photos will be “awarded prizes,” the German writes. It is also assumed that on election day there will be “big family games”, quizzes and even football matches.

In fact, such actions have little in common with politics, the author notes. And where does the political interest of people in Russia come from - in the state, which itself “gives people the feeling” that they “should not worry too much about politics: after all, the state is already doing it”.

Hence the dilemma, points out F. Ninhuizen. Putin would like to count on more than 70% votes. Question: what are the 70 percent? Of the total number of citizens? But after all, “in his own country, the president has long become a man who is above all politics. Putin is a Supra-Politiker, a figure standing above the state, above the parties, the author believes. He is portrayed as a “national leader,” which means that the government, but not “Putin himself,” is constantly criticized for failure.

Today, the Kremlin wants to prevent apathy, which could well lead to election failure. The Kremlin is trying to create the impression that the president is supported by at least "half of the population."

The fight against absenteeism of voters, with their tiny interest in elections, is also characteristic of Western Europe. However, in Russia there is a feature: the apathy of the population is connected here with the habit of the Kremlin power to control everything, which means the absence of real competition. The road to state-owned media is blocked by many oppositionists. True, the author writes with irony, today Ksenia Sobchak, who is “against Putin,” can again speak on TV. But this is a cure for boredom: if there were no Sobchak, even fewer Russians would be interested in the elections.

With the majority of candidates who nominated themselves, the Russian people are familiar "for almost two decades," reminds Ninghuizen. “In addition to Putin,” liberal Grigory Yavlinsky will “play again” his role. The “nationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky” will also perform. And only the Communist candidate, Gennady Zyuganov, this time “restructured”: from his party the non-party candidate P. Grudinin goes to the polls. This is the owner of the "fruit company" called "State Farm. Lenin ", said the German.

As for the former opposition, A. Navalny, the strongest protest vote, was simply expelled from the election race. In addition, the opposition in Russia is split. And someone will give a vote to K. Sobchak, someone to Yavlinsky, while others are boycotting the elections.

“Putin will reach the finish without a fight. As usual, ”laughs a foreign analyst at the Russian elections.



In the meantime, the support of the above-mentioned Pavel Grudinin is growing. Gradually, this man becomes a real counterweight to Putin, whom other forecasters have already recorded as winners "without a fight." It looks like the battle is still going on.

At the Central House of Writers, a 19th century mansion in the center of Moscow, a crowd came to listen to an 57-year-old speaker who ran a large part of his life at a former state farm. This is Pavel Grudinin, a communist candidate, one who challenged Vladimir Putin and “shook the election race,” writes Catherine Hill in Financial Times. And this new candidate has made the election more attractive “for apathetic voters” in Russia.

According to the pro-Kremlin VCIOM, today 7,6% intend to vote for Grudinina. This is a very high proportion; this is more than twice as high as the leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Gennady Zyuganov had a month ago.



Mr. Grudinin, the author recalls, is not even a member of the Russian Communist Party, but his rhetoric attracted the attention of left-wing activists.

In his speech in the Central House of Writers, Grudinin condemned the theft of “public money,” Hille said, and called for the lie to stop: there is nothing to tell people how they “live a good life.” In fact, "they live badly"!

The candidate also called for free education and health care, and also for the retirees to "live in dignity."

Mr. Grudinin believes that you can live in Russia with dignity. On his farm, the average monthly salary is 78.000 rubles, and this is more than twice the average for Russia. He emphasizes that he himself lives in the same house on the farm as the ordinary tractor drivers. In short, the author sums up, he presents his enterprise "as a socialist utopia." And he wants all people in the country "to live as we live." “And this is possible,” considers Grudinin.

With a gray hair and a mustache, he “hardly resembles Joseph Stalin,” Hille writes further. And the popularity of Stalin in the people today is growing again, since many Russians, ignoring the Stalinist kingdom of terror and forced industrialization, want to see their homeland "modern and strong." Some of those who support Grudinina, indulge in nostalgia for the Stalin era.

However, Grudinin is not Stalin at all. Besides, he is a businessman, a capitalist. According to the Central Election Commission, Mr. Grudinin has earned an average of 26 million in the past six years. per year (in 26 more than once more than the income of its tractor-neighbors, ironically Hille).

Social networks are full of “wonderful discoveries”: they say, Grudinin had bank accounts in Austria, and his parent company had “connections with Roman Abramovich,” the oligarch and owner of Chelsea football club in the UK. Such Grudinin, of course, has little resemblance to the director of the “socialist cooperative”. However, the journalist continues, Mr. Grudinin has since "closed his accounts in foreign banks." As for the company previously controlled by Mr. Abramovich, this tycoon sold his stake more than a year ago.

Mr. Grudinin does not pay attention to such attacks, the author of the article points out.

His campaign today includes classic communist slogans (the nationalization of key enterprises in the banking sector, in the sphere of public services and telecommunications). At the same time, he calls for the improvement of the business climate, the fight against corruption and the restoration of the rule of law. Critics say that some of his positions are “stolen” from Alexey Navalny.

Other analysts suggest that the Kremlin deliberately supports Grudinin’s candidacy in order to neutralize the potential response to the removal of Navalny’s figure from the election. After all, Mr. Navalny called for a boycott of the elections and for street protests. And Navalny’s threat “is not like an empty bluff, considering that tens of thousands of activists are working in his numerous campaign offices,” said Alexander Ivakhnik, analyst at the Center for Political Technologies. “It’s possible,” the expert believes, “that the Communists’ nomination of a new and really attractive candidate, Pavel Grudinin, is connected with the authorities ’desire to reduce these risks by giving the election campaign a sudden intrigue.”

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No matter how this sudden intrigue turned the whole campaign. With the rapid growth of Grudinin’s popularity and the transition to him not only by the communists, but also by a substantial part of the opposition electorate, the one that K. Sobchak presents as a caricature of the opposition, the Kremlin critic has some chances for victory.

However, everyone remembers how in 1996, Yeltsin won the election against Zyuganov. There is an opinion that Zyuganov eventually simply surrendered, not wanting to dispute his real victory. The broadest support of the extremely unpopular Yeltsin at that time by American political consultants and the White House is well known.

The Kremlin is now ponator in its own propaganda, American assistance is hardly needed. And the times are not the same: from the former friendship, the parties moved on to the war of sanctions. But are commentators in Germany right, and this time Putin will win again? And he will have 70%?

Why not? How many spits did United Russia endure? And nothing - behind a loud victory in the parliamentary elections.
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  1. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 17 January 2018 09: 24
    +8
    We’ve gotten into something, we hit plates all year,
    We have already eaten a dog on them, if the chef does not lie to us,
    A pile of medicines - we are in the toilet, who doesn’t ....
    This is life - and suddenly Bermuda, those times, you can’t do that ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 17 January 2018 09: 28
      22
      It’s more interesting there:
      We did not make a scandal, the leader did not reach us.
      There are few real violent ones - there are no leaders!
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 17 January 2018 12: 07
        10
        And then even more interesting:
        Those who were particularly fights, screwed to the backs of beds,
        Fought in a foam paranoid, like a witcher on a Sabbath:
        "Untie the towels, the heterodox, the fanatics,
        We have a bermutorn heart and a bermut heart! "
      2. Lexus
        Lexus 17 January 2018 15: 06
        +6
        Just yesterday, Kanatchikov’s cottage was recalled, commenting on the consideration by the Verkhovna Rada of the draft law “on the reintegration of DONBASS”.
        1. Alf
          Alf 17 January 2018 21: 35
          +5
          Quote: lexus
          Just yesterday, Kanatchikov’s cottage was recalled, commenting on the consideration by the Verkhovna Rada of the draft law “on the reintegration of DONBASS”.

          What about the Law on the prohibition of the release of garbage from the windows of cars? Not funny ? And the laws, according to the Constitution, are signed by the president. And how is it different from violent fat lovers?
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 17 January 2018 12: 52
      16
      In the Gorbachev era, invented the election of directors of enterprises. The director of the Altai Tractor, without doubting his victory, appointed an opponent - the worst head of the most lagging workshop. As a result, the protest "electorate" lost with a bang. Now there is no factory no elected director. lol
      1. woron333444
        woron333444 17 January 2018 13: 28
        +8
        This is a cure for boredom: if there weren’t Sobchak, even fewer Russians would be interested in the elections.
        As for the past opposition, A. Navalny, the strongest voice of protest, was simply expelled from the election race.

        That's for sure nonsense. If they were not in the elections, no one would have paid attention.
        1. dSK
          dSK 17 January 2018 15: 30
          +7
          Hello Sergey!
          Quote: woron333444
          did not pay attention.
          Grudinin is a capable businessman, the second Poroshenko. Look carefully at the photo, he has eyes trickyit's natural chameleon, has changed colors so many times, is seized with power - it will be “in Shekolada”, in Russia the treasury is much thicker.
          And the author is clearly cunning about the appearance, the Central Election Commission has the right strategy, 17 candidates, for every taste and color, voters will come. hi
          1. Mikhail Filippov
            Mikhail Filippov 17 January 2018 16: 45
            +7
            Grudinin is the second Lukashenko
            1. Elena Zakharova
              Elena Zakharova 17 January 2018 18: 11
              +9
              Quote: Mikhail Filippov
              Grudinin is the second Lukashenko

              Grudinin is not fit to occupy such a high post.
              I generally had suspicions that Zyuganov was simply paid to nominate him, because the Communist Party is heading for the abyss, and it has no support in Russia.
              Remember about 40% in 1996 year and how many Zyuganov took in the last election.
              And I hope you didn’t forget the failure with Kharitonov?
              Miserable seven percent ....
              With Grudinin, the situation will be even worse, my forecast is a maximum of FIVE percent.
              1. Rastas
                Rastas 17 January 2018 21: 12
                10
                Why not good? Grudinin is a successful entrepreneur, knows how to speak normal modern language with voters, in contrast to the same Zyuganov or Kharitonv, whose speeches were more like party congresses.
                1. Elena Zakharova
                  Elena Zakharova 17 January 2018 21: 32
                  +4
                  Quote: Rastas
                  Grudinin is a successful entrepreneur

                  In Russia, tens of thousands of more successful entrepreneurs than Grudinin.
                  Why did you ignore all of them?
                  Maybe because they don’t want to pay Zyuganov?
                  1. Freeman
                    Freeman 17 January 2018 21: 54
                    +4
                    Quote: Elena Zakharova
                    Quote: Rastas
                    Grudinin is a successful entrepreneur

                    In Russia, tens of thousands of more successful entrepreneurs than Grudinin.
                    Why did you ignore all of them?
                    Maybe because they don’t want to pay Zyuganov?

                    And which of them adheres to the image of a "capitalist with a human face"?
                    Grudinin, before “milking the cattle”, at least feeds it, albeit “not from the belly”.
                    Wasn’t this what many agreed in the 90s, since “socialism with a human face” didn’t work out in the late 80s?
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 17 January 2018 22: 00
                      +8
                      Quote: Freeman
                      And which of them adheres to the image of a "capitalist with a human face"?

                      You will laugh - Abramovich, for example belay
                      When he was governor of Chukotka, he at least fully adhered to this image.
                      And, I think, these are quite enough to form a motorized infantry platoon from them.
                      Or maybe a company laughing
                      1. Freeman
                        Freeman 17 January 2018 22: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Quote: Freeman
                        And which of them adheres to the image of a "capitalist with a human face"?

                        You will laugh - Abramovich, for example belay
                        When he was governor of Chukotka, he at least fully adhered to this image.
                        And, I think, these are quite enough to form a motorized infantry platoon from them.
                        Or maybe a company laughing

                        good Right! Only in the presidency did not go
                        But Prokhorov in the 12 year election received 5 votes (722%), 508rd place.
                        Such a "good" company.
                        I really didn’t vote for him. The item on the 12-hour working day did not like.
                      2. Freeman
                        Freeman 17 January 2018 22: 49
                        +3
                        Golovan Jack Today, 22:00

                        Freedom ↑ Today, 22:07 PM

                        Although not. If you think about it, then your example with Abramovich does not fit.
                        He did not run business there, but was a governor, working more on Putin’s image. Well, "earning" a "visa to London."
                        Prokhorov thus portrayed the "liberal opposition" for the West.
                      3. udincev
                        udincev 17 January 2018 23: 24
                        +1
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        When he was governor of Chukotka, he at least fully adhered to this image.
                        I think that if Abramovich "adhered to this image," in proportion at least a little closer to the "Sternine image", then besides such "nishtyaks" as the social network (affordable quality housing and not only in Anadyr, but in every personal plague; free for residents kindergartens, training and medicine), but every resident of Chukotka had a golden toilet (not as a luxury, but the most hygiene for).
                      4. udincev
                        udincev 18 January 2018 00: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Or maybe a company

                        \ In honor of the company’s commander in chief, the Yeltsin Center has already been opened.
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                  2. udincev
                    udincev 17 January 2018 22: 56
                    +2
                    Quote: Elena Zakharova
                    In Russia, tens of thousands of more successful entrepreneurs than Grudinin.

                    If you subtract from the number of "more successful entrepreneurs" tens of thousands of criminals "a la Chubais" and hundreds of thousands of their active followers and accomplices, then the bottom line ...
                    1. Elena Zakharova
                      Elena Zakharova 17 January 2018 23: 01
                      +2
                      Quote: udincev
                      then the bottom line ...

                      I state that you don’t know mother Russia well.
                      Many modern entrepreneurs in Russia have already erected monuments, avenues have been named after them ...
                      1. Freeman
                        Freeman 18 January 2018 00: 11
                        +3
                        Elena Zakharova Today, 23:01
                        Many modern entrepreneurs in Russia have already erected monuments, avenues have been named after them ...

                        Anatoly Fedorovich Deriglazov - typical (or rather, “atypical”) “red director”. Which "did not get angry", unlike the others, for which he earned a memory.
                        Is it possible to attribute Grudinin to such? Rather yes than no".
                      2. udincev
                        udincev 18 January 2018 00: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Elena Zakharova
                        Many modern entrepreneurs in Russia have already erected monuments, avenues have been named after them ...

                        I will not argue. But this is one of those that remained behind the “deduction,” such as Grudinin.
              2. horhe48
                horhe48 18 January 2018 07: 18
                +3
                If we talk about trends, the future of Russia is not a comprador republic of an offshore aristocracy, but a country of real social democracy. This is when there is private property, but mineral resources and highly profitable industries (for example, the production and sale of alcoholic beverages) are nationalized and the principle is implemented, from each according to his ability, each according to his work. In the March elections, Vladimir Putin will win, no doubt. As for Grudinin, then in the next six years his “shrinking and utrusion” as a real politician will not occur, then in the next He could well win the election. His possible opponents will not have the merits and charisma of Putin, (strengthening the vertical of power, suppressing the separatism of republics and regions, military reform, Crimea, Syria, etc.) and if you look at what economists offer liberals in the government, whose activities Putin is “satisfied” and social democrat Grudinin, the people will probably choose social democracy.
                1. Elena Zakharova
                  Elena Zakharova 18 January 2018 10: 37
                  0
                  Quote: horhe48
                  the principle is implemented, from each according to his ability, to each according to his work.

                  I'm just wondering who, according to your version, will determine how much I should pay zp for my abilities realized in production.
                  Can you answer intelligently?
                  And because of my naivety, I consider such a slogan delusional.
              3. Esoteric
                Esoteric 20 January 2018 20: 24
                0
                Quote: Elena Zakharova
                With Grudinin, the situation will be even worse, my forecast is a maximum of FIVE percent.

                Do not wang, without you divorced prophets in Russia. I watched his performance in St. Petersburg. So far - "not an eagle." They probably did not understand with whom they started the fight. This looping in words, at the work of the state farm ... The people expect from Grudinin that they did not wait for Putin. He did not wait for the power to ever hear him. If a miracle does not happen, Putin will win. And in this case, a miracle will happen when the people get up from the couch and come to the precincts ...
            2. Dimmedroll
              Dimmedroll 20 January 2018 20: 10
              +1
              Are you real? Rather Poroshenko.
            3. Victorio
              Victorio 20 January 2018 20: 26
              +1
              Quote: Mikhail Filippov
              Grudinin is the second Lukashenko

              ===
              Lukashenko is cunning, but this one is not clean at hand
          2. woron333444
            woron333444 17 January 2018 18: 38
            +1
            dSK In our street I don’t know those who don’t go to the polls. Both retirees and workers.
    3. Wayfarer
      Wayfarer 17 January 2018 18: 21
      16
      Oleg Chuvakin, we go to the website president-rf.ru and look at the results of the vote for candidates for the presidency of the Russian Federation: 102800 people voted, 57% of the vote for Grudinin, 30% of votes for Putin. And this must be understood that Grudinin is just beginning his campaign. Of course, the Kremlin and the Kremlin bribes have also just begun their activities to discredit Grudinin, but Oleg Chuvakin has little time for you, if you do not have time to reformat the brains of the voters, Grudinin will win.
      As for the article itself, this is a typical Kremlin agitation: it is argued that the Kremlin is benefiting from a high turnout, but there are no arguments why it is beneficial. And Chuvakin makes this groundless statement for one purpose, to brainwash us, to show that, allegedly for raising the turnout, the Kremlin “put forward” Grudinin.
      1. Why did the Kremlin allegedly “put forward” Grudinin, and now pour megatons of slander on him in all media? Grudinin really can win, why is Putin?
      3. Zombie TV retirees vote for Putin, the military will be brought in, the state employees will come under threat of punishment. Whatever turnout the elections take place and the lower the turnout, the greater the percentage of Putin. So why is Putin a big turnout? With a large turnout, a patriotic electorate will come and send this oligarchic power to the dustbin of history.
      3. The left front was put forward by Grudinin, whose leader served in the Kremlin dungeons for several years, and did not throw his people in jails, PDS NPSR, the Communist Party and the whole broad coalition of Russian patriots. With what side did Dude stick the Kremlin to Grudinin’s nomination? Well, come up with at least one argument, Dude?
      1. woron333444
        woron333444 17 January 2018 18: 42
        10
        This is for Grudinin vote forever offended by life. Instead of working, they cry for their hard life, not a crawl out of the computer
        1. Wayfarer
          Wayfarer 17 January 2018 18: 58
          18
          Quote: woron333444
          This is for Grudinin vote forever offended by life.
          Forever - how much forever? laughing Grudinin only a month ago as put forward.
          57% of voters are true patriots of Russia.
          What are you glad for? A failed foreign and domestic policy? The fact that Putin did not fulfill a single promise? What is the country in crisis, is there a total looting? Are you glad that the oligarchs are becoming more and more, and the Russian people are impoverished and dying out?
          That's what, dear, throw your TV box and watch the Internet.
          1. woron333444
            woron333444 17 January 2018 19: 34
            +4
            If you see a crisis, then I do not see it. I get my pension on time, I have enough money.
            1. Wayfarer
              Wayfarer 17 January 2018 19: 43
              +8
              Quote: woron333444
              If you see a crisis, then I do not see it. I get my pension on time, I have enough money.
              By billions a year, the country is robbed, Kremlin propaganda is deceiving, the country is not developing, has turned into a gas station, the standard of living of citizens is falling, science is being destroyed, education is being destroyed, health is being bent, and the number of people is decreasing. But you don’t see this and you won’t see it on your zombie TV. Or do you care about the country and the people, the main thing is that you are paid a pension?
              1. woron333444
                woron333444 17 January 2018 20: 54
                +5
                I have three children and an older granddaughter already working and there are enough salaries. In summer, the whole family goes to the mountains to relax. I didn’t live in Soviet times as I do now. And the mourners about all those offended have always been and will be, only in Soviet times they were hidden in a madhouse, and now freedom.
                1. Oorfene Deuce
                  Oorfene Deuce 17 January 2018 21: 30
                  13
                  You wouldn’t have a rest in the mountains, but would you drop into some provincial village or something, to see how people live ... Kurortnik.
                  1. Freeman
                    Freeman 18 January 2018 00: 49
                    10
                    Quote: Oorfene Deuce
                    You wouldn’t have a rest in the mountains, but would you drop into some provincial village or something to see how people live ... Spa.

                    Most likely a former deputy, possibly at the municipal level.
                    And about how they set their salaries and pensions, the entire Internet is littered.
                    1. woron333444
                      woron333444 18 January 2018 04: 24
                      +1
                      He worked as a master in Russian Railways. And the pension was earned by the railway engineer.
                  2. woron333444
                    woron333444 18 January 2018 04: 23
                    +1
                    Oorfene Deuce So I'm going to rest in a provincial village, and not to the resort. And I see how people live. In families of three to eight children. And this is young under 40 years old. Your household. We buy meat in the village from 100 to 130 rubles. Milk-20, and sour cream 60 rubles per kg. And no one cries that he lives poorly and the state does not care about him.
            2. Alf
              Alf 17 January 2018 21: 38
              +3
              Sorry, I put you in error by mistake. Can I find out the size of the pension?
              1. woron333444
                woron333444 18 January 2018 04: 26
                +1
                Alf To date, with the latest supplement 16450 +615 are veteran. I will repeat
                the pension was earned by the railway engineer.
                1. Freeman
                  Freeman 18 January 2018 08: 10
                  +3
                  Quote: woron333444
                  Alf To date, with the latest supplement 16450 +615 are veteran. I will repeat
                  the pension was earned by the railway engineer.

                  hi No offense to you, but you apparently adhere to a life position - "We did not live well, there is nothing to start."
                  You yourself write that in order to earn a pension, you left the work of a foreman in Russian Railways (apparently organizing and controlling the work of the railway crew, writing out orders) and became a "hard worker".
                  And you’re going to rest in a “deaf” village living in subsistence farming, where with “such money” you are simply an “oligarch”.
                  1. woron333444
                    woron333444 18 January 2018 08: 31
                    +1
                    Unlike you, I live well. What do you think is a good life? Is it a vacation in Turkey, a cool foreign car? For me, that everything was fine in the house, the children didn’t have big problems (we’ll deal with the little ones), that there was stability in the country (and I don’t feel like in Yeltsin’s times).
                    You yourself write that in order to earn a pension, you left the work of a foreman in Russian Railways (apparently organizing and controlling the work of the railway crew, writing out orders) and became a "hard worker".

                    He retired from the post of master. Gone day to day. And he became a master after the railway operator, because after the operation he realized that the commission for the driver would no longer pass.
                    1. Freeman
                      Freeman 18 January 2018 08: 53
                      +1
                      woron333444 Today, 08:31
                      Unlike you, I live well. What do you think is a good life? Is it a vacation in Turkey, a cool foreign car? For me, that everything was fine in the house, the children didn’t have big problems (we’ll deal with the little ones), that there was stability in the country (and I don’t feel like in Yeltsin’s times).

                      Everyone has their own idea of ​​happiness

                      He retired from the post of master. Gone day to day. And he became a master after the railway operator, because after the operation he realized that the commission for the driver would no longer pass.

                      Health to you. hi
          2. Dart2027
            Dart2027 17 January 2018 19: 43
            +3
            Quote: Traveler
            Throw out your TV box and watch the Internet

            Good site:
            https://sdelanounas.ru/
            1. Wayfarer
              Wayfarer 17 January 2018 19: 51
              +8
              Quote: Dart2027
              Good site:
              Watch the video about the state farm Grudinin - this is an island of prosperity. So what? Does this say anything good about power? On the contrary. The authorities did nothing for the state farm, it didn’t give a dime! Think about it: not a penny! Only contrary to power did Grudinin preserve and increase the economy and did it sincerely for the people. The Grudinin farm is an exception to the rule: all agricultural enterprises of the Moscow Region are destroyed. And this is the case for each working project, which seems to work in the midst of devastation, and even the profit is stolen by the Kremlin oligarchs, and people don’t get anything, humiliating salaries, and miserable pensions.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 17 January 2018 19: 54
                +4
                Quote: Traveler
                Watch the video about the state farm Grudinin

                Even without the commercials in which the “product is shown by the face” always, I can say that things are gradually going smoothly. Without heroic jerks, but also without their attendant problems. And the stories that they say that contrary to the state, I heard enough in the 90s.
                1. Wayfarer
                  Wayfarer 17 January 2018 20: 03
                  +4
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  "product is shown by face."
                  Yes, everything is fine with Grudinin: more than two billion profits in 17 g.
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  that it’s supposedly contrary to the state, I had heard enough in the 90s
                  Listen again: the state farm repulsed 5 raider attacks and all were carried out with the support of the authorities. The legislation is bureaucratic, bureaucrats' requisitions, predatory taxes - Grudinin overcame everything and won.
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  I can say that things are gradually going smoothly
                  They do not go in the right way: GDP growth in Russia over the course of 6 years has only been 1,7%, in the world during this time - 15%. Every year we lag behind in gross production and in technological level. Science is not funded, agriculture, industry, education, health, too. In all spheres of life, Russia is in a deep systemic crisis and is heading for the abyss.
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 17 January 2018 22: 48
                    +2
                    Quote: Traveler
                    In all spheres of life, Russia is in a deep systemic crisis and is heading for the abyss.

                    Judging by the fact that I see all these cries around are greatly exaggerated.
                    Quote: Traveler
                    The state farm repulsed 5 raider attacks and all were carried out with the support of the authorities.

                    If everything is so bad with us, then how did he repel something?
                    1. Wayfarer
                      Wayfarer 18 January 2018 03: 35
                      +5
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Judging by the fact that I see all these cries around are greatly exaggerated.
                      Duck you open your eyes - it's just that.
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      If everything is so bad with us, then how did he repel something?
                      Therefore, everything is so bad with us that, instead of helping the real producer, we had to fight back from the government, which was trying to destroy the state farm. And he fought off because a professional of the highest level, Grudinin saved his state farm and save Russia.
                      1. woron333444
                        woron333444 18 January 2018 04: 28
                        +2
                        If power gorges, then it will not be repelled. So I fought off the same as myself.
                      2. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 18 January 2018 06: 25
                        +2
                        Quote: Traveler
                        Duck you open your eyes - it's just that.

                        And I didn’t close them.
                        Quote: Traveler
                        Because everything is so bad with us, that, instead of helping the real producer, we had to fight back from the authorities

                        I join the opinion:
                        Quote: woron333444
                        If power gorges, then it will not be repelled. So I fought off the same as myself.
                  2. Senior manager
                    Senior manager 9 March 2018 23: 27
                    0
                    Traveler. Your preparation is excellent. Manuals of the State Department read immediately. It is useless to ask questions to you. The simple answer is that even China did not have a 15% GDP growth in its best years. and in the world GDP growth is many times less, there is no figure at hand. And your maxims on almost all issues are designed for people who know little, mostly young, but I want to congratulate you - you hang skillfully noodles, well, just like Voice of America, one to one.
                2. master35
                  master35 18 January 2018 01: 29
                  +5
                  Is it that way? Compare the video with photos and videos of Stalingrad after the well-known, eponymous battle!

          3. sashok1951.21
            sashok1951.21 18 January 2018 07: 35
            0
            What to watch on the Internet? What are you watching?
          4. Dimmedroll
            Dimmedroll 20 January 2018 20: 13
            +1
            Hmm Do you revised the Rain or the elephant? Or Perhaps the Constitution was poorly read. Dimon with deputies is responsible for domestic politics. But failing to name foreign policy is apparently you know what you are talking about. What is happening now could not happen sooner or later without GDP. You are funny.
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        3. Galaktionych
          Galaktionych 18 January 2018 01: 05
          +8
          Quote: woron333444
          This is for Grudinin vote forever offended by life. Instead of working, they cry for their hard life, not a crawl out of the computer

          Yes, yes, instead of working for 13 rubles a month, like some engineer of Roscosmos, they express dissatisfaction with the African standard of living and want to fight for a better future. Rebels!
        4. Esoteric
          Esoteric 20 January 2018 20: 41
          +2
          Quote: woron333444
          Instead of working, they cry for their hard life, not a crawl out of the computer

          I’ll tell you, but don’t be offended: it’s too late to swim in the Epiphany font, if the face is crooked. We have already worked, but our children have to look for work, "not sorting out" from poverty. Putin trampled his authority together with state sovereignty, the guarantor of which he was placed. If someone goes shouting: “For the Motherland! For Putin!” - this is his environment, who sits on the shoulders of the people and the “grabbed” national treasure, chews his pineapples with hazel grouse and wonders why there are such disturbances below? You and your kind, the real enemies of the Russian people. Not Russian, but Russian. We will carry out nationalization and put you on 10-12 thousand per month - we’ll see how you will bark, what you will sing there in unison ... Probably - “International”?
      2. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx 17 January 2018 20: 18
        +7
        Oleg Chuvakin, we go to the website president-rf.ru and look at the results of voting for candidates for the presidency of the Russian Federation: 102800 people voted, for Grudinin - 57% of the vote, for Putin - 30% of the vote
        If Lech Naklalny conducts a survey on his website, he will win with even greater advantage.
        1. Wayfarer
          Wayfarer 18 January 2018 03: 29
          +4
          Quote: svd-xnumx
          If Lech Naklalny conducts a survey on his website, he will win with even greater advantage.
          laughing Website president-rf is a state website, no private one. The voting data is fair, unlike the data from the Kremlin VTsIOM.
        2. Captain45
          Captain45 18 January 2018 10: 35
          0
          Quote: svd-xnumx
          Oleg Chuvakin, we go to the website president-rf.ru and look at the results of voting for candidates for the presidency of the Russian Federation: 102800 people voted, for Grudinin - 57% of the vote, for Putin - 30% of the vote
          If Lech Naklalny conducts a survey on his website, he will win with even greater advantage.

          In-in, and Levada gives the last alignment: 6,2% for Grudinin and 63,5% for Putin.
          1. volot-voin
            volot-voin 18 January 2018 15: 38
            +1
            Quote: Captain45
            In-in, and Levada gives the last alignment: 6,2% for Grudinin and 63,5% for Putin.

            He is somehow strange, an oligarch from the Communist Party. Either 37 million will be presented to him, then he forgets miscalculations abroad ... Who really believes that he is able to nationalize, for example, heavy industry or natural resources?
      3. Victorio
        Victorio 20 January 2018 20: 31
        +1
        Quote: Traveler
        . Vote for Putin zombie TV retirees, the military will lead the ranks, state employees will come under threat of punishment.

        ===
        as well as adequate, sane and decent people
      4. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 21 January 2018 16: 55
        0
        Quote: Traveler
        the military will be in formation, state employees will come under threat of punishment

        And the checkmarks in the booths will order a photograph and present. Or ballots will be smeared with plastic so that a checkmark can be put only opposite one name.
    4. volot-voin
      volot-voin 18 January 2018 14: 54
      0
      Quote: vladimirvn
      We’ve gotten into something, we hit plates all year,
      We have already eaten a dog on them, if the chef does not lie to us,
      A pile of medicines - we are in the toilet, who doesn’t ....
      This is life - and suddenly Bermuda, those times, you can’t do that ..

      Vote do not vote, you still get .....
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 17 January 2018 09: 26
    16
    Whoever won, but stuck a stick in the anthill and goose bumps!
  3. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 January 2018 09: 27
    +6
    The Communist Party could nominate its Voronenkov, but he was killed.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 17 January 2018 15: 42
      21
      And EP could nominate Khoroshavin, Zakharchenko, Belykh, Ulyukaev Nechaev, Nikandrova, etc. etc. - yes they were imprisoned! wassat
    2. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 18 January 2018 01: 08
      +2
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      The Communist Party could nominate its Voronenkov, but he was killed.

      And what prevented United Russia from nominating its Maksakova? Did she stay alive?
  4. apro
    apro 17 January 2018 09: 41
    +6
    There is nothing to change ... and there’s nothing ... so I choose from 2 or more candidates. I absolutely don’t see the meaning of the elections. The rest of the population either doesn’t give a damn or there are no forces or ideas to oppose a well-functioning state machine.
    1. AA17
      AA17 17 January 2018 10: 02
      38
      Dear, apro. I do not agree with you. You are mistaken in thinking that the population does not give a damn about the elections. I’ll bring you the words of one smart person (I completely agree with him): "... Economic rationalism multiplied by political populism, but it sounds good (we are talking about P. Grudinin - AA17). It is not known where the situation will turn in two months, but I I know that I definitely don’t want to. Another six years of sluggish schizophrenia in the economy and politics of the country with the same people ... "
      1. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 17 January 2018 12: 20
        25
        Dear AA17. I do not agree with you. You are mistaken in thinking that the population does not give a damn about the elections. Some part, maybe not, but a lot of people don't give a damn. Everything is rightly said in the article, popular indifference to elections and power is quite obvious, just as obvious complete indifference of those in power to the aspirations of the peoples of Russia. Who understands, who feels that it is impossible to build and build in this system, the system is completely anti-people, hopelessness is growing. In addition, the people will never agree with the results of privatization. A bunch of fraudsters and crooks brazenly and cynically appropriated popular good, took these funds out of the cordon, and continue to hamper the country in the last century. Authorities constantly violate an unspoken social contract; they no longer have faith, just as there is no faith and hope for a worthy future.
        “the volume of offshore capital of Russians exceeds the level of the country's foreign exchange reserves by about three times. In 2015, the volume of assets transferred to offshore amounted to about 75% of the country's national income. In other words, offshore centers contain almost as much finance of wealthy Russians as the entire population Russia keeps inside the country. "
        There are a lot of statistics: http://andreyfursov.ru/news/volja_pobezhdat/2018-
        01-13-682.
        “According to the Global Wealth Report, 1% of wealthy Russians account for 71% of all personal assets of Russia. For comparison: 1% of wealthy people in India account for 49% of personal assets, in Africa - 44%, in the USA - 37%, in China and Europe - 32%, in Europe - 17%. The average world figure is 46%, and here we have 71%, that is, the rich of Russia exceeded the world figures by 1,6 times. Another indicator by which the Russian leader is this is the share of the richest 5% of the population in the personal wealth of the country - 82,5%. The remaining 95, therefore, have 17,5% - and, as they say, do not deny yourself anything! Another killer figure: 96 "Russian billionaires own 30% of all personal assets of citizens of the Russian Federation. The average global figure is 2%. That is, Russian billionaires are 15 times steeper than the global average."
        These are objective data, confirmed by many sources.
        “in the Russian Federation, the number of multimillionaires with over 30 million dollars, cent millionaires from 100 million, and billionaires increased 2004 times from 2014 to 3,5 and, according to the forecast, will increase by 2024 times by 1992. And the other side the medals are as follows: from 2016 to 1,7, 25 trillion dollars were stolen from Russia in the form of illegal financial flows, raw materials were exported for 5 trillion dollars over XNUMX years. "
        Why would the people go to vote for the same hopelessness ?? !!! It is clear that Putin is the only sane candidate and let him win, but without my vote (I’ll ruin the ballot by writing on it everything I think about this thieving system). In my opinion, Putin has not done the 20th part of what he could, and without much effort. Maybe I'm wrong, and our sovereign 18 years was engaged in some other important matters, geopolitics, for example ... Only the results of the results are very deplorable and getting worse and worse.
        1. freddyk
          freddyk 17 January 2018 17: 33
          12
          Quote: Antianglosaks
          You are mistaken in thinking that the population does not give a damn about the elections. Some part, maybe not, but so many do not give a damn


          Well then, truly, the people are worthy of their ruler. People do not care about the elections, and the ruler of the people, everything is fair. Without going to the polls you still make a choice, and this choice is @ OPA. I liked how Grudinin said- "It’s scary not that we are in @ opera, but that we are starting to get settled in it"
        2. V. Salama
          V. Salama 17 January 2018 18: 06
          +5
          Strange article. The analysis of foreign political scientists is given. Is it not enough for us our clairvoyants or is it visible from afar? The conclusions are contradictory - on the one hand, the infantile people will not come to the polls, on the other - Grudinin has a chance. He killed the author’s question at the end: are the Germans right and again Putin will win with 70%? To sum up the damn ... I read the comments - once again I was convinced of the truth of the statement "you can’t understand Russia with your mind" ....
          "... Putin is the only sane candidate ... but I’ll spoil the ballot ... because he was sick of theft and hopelessness that nothing is being done ..."
          Dear Atri God, the soul of the mother, plug in your head and your knowledge, where you studied there, or finally look at the Ozhegov S.I. Dictionary that there is an “evolution" and at least do something for it. Or do you really don’t understand what you want?
          1. Galaktionych
            Galaktionych 18 January 2018 01: 10
            +3
            Quote: V. Salama
            connect your head and your knowledge where you studied there or finally look in the Ozhegov S.I. Dictionary that there is an “evolution" and at least do something for it. Or do you really don’t understand what you want?

            And where is it said that evolution is when you steal for 18 years and then want to steal for at least another 6 years?
            1. V. Salama
              V. Salama 18 January 2018 21: 09
              0
              This is not said anywhere. Evolution involves development. I wish it was progress. Grudinin has little chance of progress (if he becomes President), I think. But in the alternative, we will continue to steal.
          2. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 18 January 2018 05: 59
            +1
            Quote: V. Salama
            Dear Atri God, the soul of the mother, plug in your head and your knowledge, where you studied there, or finally look at the Ozhegov S.I. Dictionary what is "evolution"

            Power Evolution: in a wolf pack, the leader has personal responsibility for decisions made. He can be bitten collectively. In a tribe of people, responsibility is already shared with the shaman. Further responsibility is shared with the people who made the choice. And since one of the evolutionary adaptations of nature is defensive coloring and invisibility, Today's Real Power remains in the shadows and uses external atrutics: presidents, parliaments, to solve its problems.
            1. V. Salama
              V. Salama 18 January 2018 21: 44
              +1
              I agree. I hope you will not mind if I specify a little:
              Modern society includes three subsystems based on a single ideology, albeit not an official one. These are political and economic subsystems, and priesthood. Speaking of the latter, I do not mean the church (clergy), although it is also present there with a relatively small role. Priesthood means that social group that monitors the observance of ideological principles and controls the needful aspect of the effectiveness of the political superstructure (subsystem). In Soviet times, it was the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, and in capitalist society it is always a backstage social group with the highest political power. In our case, this is a comprador offshore financial oligarchy.
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 19 January 2018 07: 10
                +1
                Quote: V. Salama
                Priesthood means the social group that monitors the observance of ideological principles and controls the needful aspect of the effectiveness of the political superstructure (subsystem)

                +++ They beautifully said, however, the media (the Means of Mass Idiocy) with their advertising, the technique of economic news, and other methods of educating the Consumer Society fit this definition.
                1. V. Salama
                  V. Salama 20 January 2018 15: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  ... Media (Mass Idiotic Media) fits this definition with their advertising, the technique of economic news, and other methods of educating the Consumer Society

                  So this is one of their main tools, in addition, people who are affected by these media and reformatted by washing their brain also turn into their tool (a means of achieving their goals). Nothing new, even Lenin drew attention to this, arguing that "an illiterate person is always outside politics as a subject (the bearer of his needs and goals), and always in politics as a means", i.e. tool of another puppeteer subject. And it follows from his words that protection from this is to obtain scientific knowledge, remember the covenant - "Learn, study and study again ...". Therefore, they are beaten by education, that they are afraid. Educated citizens are not needed, even Zhirinovsky asserted this - and in AiF it was on YouTube a couple of times.
        3. Oorfene Deuce
          Oorfene Deuce 17 January 2018 21: 51
          +4
          Why would the people go to vote for the same hopelessness ?? !!!

          In psychology this is called - Learned helplessness. Very similar.
          ... a condition of a person or an animal in which an individual does not attempt to improve his condition (does not try to avoid negative incentives or get positive ones), although he has such an opportunity. It usually appears after several unsuccessful attempts to influence the negative environmental circumstances (or to avoid them) and is characterized by passivity, refusal to act, unwillingness to change the hostile environment or to avoid it, even when such an opportunity arises. In humans, according to a number of studies, it is accompanied by a loss of a sense of freedom and control, disbelief in the possibility of changes and in one's own strengths, depression, depression, and even acceleration of the onset of death.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 18 January 2018 05: 51
            +2
            Quote: Oorfene Deuce
            .. the condition of a person or animal in which the individual does not attempt to improve his condition

            after such a series of unsuccessful rulers like the communist gerontocrats, Gorbachev, Yeltsin ... Putin seems to be the best choice of what is. Outwardly, he is even more energetic than Grudinin. However, Putin's success lies in his long term in office. People already know him and are simply afraid to change the time-tested style.
        4. Esoteric
          Esoteric 20 January 2018 21: 06
          0
          Quote: Antianglosaks
          "the volume of Russian offshore capital exceeds the level of the country's foreign exchange reserves by about three times.

          Why sculpt such footcloths. All data is there, but you need to search. For example:
          The fortune of 200 Russian oligarchs ($ 467 billion) stop still!!! does not exceed Russia's external debt ($ 518 billion) fellow
          1. Esoteric
            Esoteric 20 January 2018 21: 23
            +1
            Quote: Esoteric
            The state of 200 Russian oligarchs ($ 467 billion) more !!! does not exceed Russia's external debt ($ 150 billion)

            If we add the state of the Russian oligarchs (only two hundred) and the external public debt of the Russian Federation -51 211 million $ then we get the strangely familiar 800 000 million $ for comparison:Russia's external debt ($ 518 billion)
      2. apro
        apro 17 January 2018 12: 25
        +2
        Dear AA17. Today the system of the state system of Russia is colonial capitalism. And Putin and Grudinin and Navalny part of this system. They do not refuse it. They only make up. Each for its purpose. But their goals and the hopes of the population are different. And no one will break capsystems in Russia. and without scrapping, there is no development and improvement.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 17 January 2018 15: 25
          +4
          Quote: apro
          will break the capsystem in Russia. without breaking no development and improvement.

          And how did the world survive for millennia without communism? request
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 18 January 2018 05: 47
            0
            Quote: Olgovich
            And how did the world survive for millennia without communism?

            The world will survive, but humanity is not
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 18 January 2018 06: 28
              +1
              Quote: aybolyt678
              but humanity is not

              While surviving.
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 19 January 2018 07: 17
                0
                Quote: Dart2027
                While surviving.

                it will be so far there will be much to expand, we traditionally treat the world as a dimensionless unit. Environmental issues say this is not so. And the regulation of numbers by wars is even worse for ecology. Therefore, very soon, it will be necessary to develop a social mechanism of survival, very similar to communism - Otherwise, the War
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 19 January 2018 19: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  will have to work out a social survival mechanism very similar to communism

                  That is, communism is birth control?
                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 20 January 2018 08: 13
                    0
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    That is, communism is birth control?

                    Communism is an alternative to War. And war is both the regulation of numbers, and control over resources and markets, personal slaves ...
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 20 January 2018 10: 32
                      +1
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      Communism is an alternative to War.

                      There is only one problem - people remain people, so building it is problematic.
                      1. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 20 January 2018 12: 20
                        0
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        There is only one problem - people remain people, so building it is problematic.

                        Do you mean that a person is a cross between a wolf, a rat, a monkey and a pig? laughing
      3. Galina Artamonova
        Galina Artamonova 17 January 2018 19: 08
        +2
        Look at the forces behind Grudinin! The Great Russia Party, which walks on a Russian march to a drum beat shouting "Russia is Russian Order!" I went with them three times, they invited me, and I figured out who and what went with everyone, who called, called the leftists, the Communist Party, anarchists and nationalists from Schukinskaya. So, I was disappointed in everyone, I saw in 2016 how some guy threw a zig on the Russian march, they had a black uniform, the day was cloudy and the police dogs barked. Associations were just terrible. Well, let it be a provocateur. then I’m a monarchist, although I love the Soviet past, and for the sake of this memory, I was in the Left Front and went to meetings with the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, I thought, people are calling, maybe it’s possible somehow to return until she realized - it’s impossible to go back into the past — neither in the tsarist empire nor in the Soviets s Soyuz.Rossiya -tsarstvo, but it should become a kingdom Bozhestvennym.Poka people do not change nothing, and it's better to talk .Pust Putin budet.Ya we feel he truly believes in God.
        1. Oorfene Deuce
          Oorfene Deuce 17 January 2018 22: 00
          +2
          And I thought he was already a saint ... No?
          1. Alf
            Alf 17 January 2018 22: 35
            +1
            Quote: Oorfene Deuce
            And I thought he was already a saint ... No?

            Not yet time ...
            1. Galaktionych
              Galaktionych 18 January 2018 01: 11
              +4
              Quote: Alf
              Quote: Oorfene Deuce
              And I thought he was already a saint ... No?

              Not yet time ...

              Yes, quickly already ...
    2. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 17 January 2018 14: 17
      10
      According to the idea of ​​Putin, it's time to leave, his main credo commitment to PR
      technology and show. His interests are purely clan, Russia is already on a residual basis. All that remains is the weak hope that he will turn to face the country and, for example, will not, from the budget, make up for the losses of his close circle, who came under regular sanctions from Uncle Trump. It somehow doesn’t fit into the head that the president will be a horse or Yavlinsky pulled out of mothballs.
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich 17 January 2018 15: 11
      +8
      Quote: apro
      There is nothing to change ... and there’s nothing ... so I choose from 2 or more candidates. I absolutely don’t see the meaning of the elections. The rest of the population either doesn’t give a damn or there are no forces or ideas to oppose a well-functioning state machine.

      In Russiagreat president.
      All can learn, work, live with dignity.
      What else is needed?
      Perfection is not and never will be.
      1. Galaktionych
        Galaktionych 18 January 2018 01: 15
        +5
        Quote: Olgovich

        In Russiagreat president.
        All can learn, work, live with dignity.
        What else is needed?
        Perfection is not and never will be.

        Can you name a country in which there is no free general education in the 21st century, the ability to work and live?

        On the question of "living with dignity" - China, Brazil, Iran and Mexico have already overtaken Russia in terms of living standards. In the dashing 90s, by the way, they lived poorer.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 18 January 2018 09: 22
          +3
          Quote: Galaktionych
          Can you name a country in which there is no free general education in the 21st century, the ability to work and live? On the question of "living with dignity" - China, Brazil, Iran and Mexico have already overtaken Russia in terms of living standards. In the dashing 90s, by the way, they lived poorer.

          They are poorer now, see. PPP rating. And everyone below Russia has a far worse education, the ability to work and live.
          1. Galaktionych
            Galaktionych 18 January 2018 11: 21
            +4
            Quote: Olgovich

            They are poorer now, see. PPP rating. And everyone below Russia has a far worse education, the ability to work and live.

            The trend is important here. In the 90s, all these countries lived much poorer than now. Now they have caught up with Russia, and in some aspects they have overtaken. And while they demonstrate steady economic growth.

            In contrast to Russia under Putin, when, against the backdrop of economic stagnation, monstrous theft and derban of the country take place.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 18 January 2018 12: 29
              +1
              Quote: Galaktionych
              Now they have caught up with Russia, and in some aspects they have overtaken

              They didn’t catch up: in China, for example, there are no pensions.
              Quote: Galaktionych
              In contrast to Russia under Putin, when, against the backdrop of economic stagnation, monstrous theft and derban of the country take place.

              In Russia, they always stole. Derban is like: Crimea is returned?
      2. master35
        master35 18 January 2018 01: 39
        +4
        It’s better to ask about worthy living for those 25 million citizens (this is only according to official statistics of the authorities) living in poverty, money less than a living wage.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 18 January 2018 12: 35
          +1
          Quote: master35
          It’s better to ask about worthy living for those 25 million citizens (this is only according to official statistics of the authorities) living in poverty, money less than a living wage.

          For example, we have a heating bill, often more than a pension. And this is only for heating! But there are other accounts and you want to eat. In Russia, this is not.
          In Russia, women have retired since 55 years, we have 63.
          In Russia, a lot of uncles, aunts, brothers are already retired, no one complains request
  5. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 17 January 2018 09: 45
    23
    the king’s main mission is to keep the Elite in check. Putin himself sets an example of what to do, but the elite is deeply into it ... that’s all people's dissatisfaction. The people should know that the elite is at work and is working out its title. This is not
    1. prodi
      prodi 17 January 2018 10: 04
      +2
      I agree, this is precisely that "smallness" that needs to be done even without essentially doing anything
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 17 January 2018 10: 35
      23
      Putin himself sets an example of what to do,
      to go fishing?
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 17 January 2018 12: 00
        +5
        Quote: Gardamir
        to go fishing?

        and this, too, he goes fishing in his country. Once again in the year I work as a “manager” of the country, very well. It works if others could do that ..
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 17 January 2018 13: 05
          27
          It works if others could do it that way.
          Are you hinting at a video where it boasts that it works better than Stalin and others?
          He goes fishing in his country.
          And in my country I can’t even go ashore, everywhere businessmen put up fences. And in our country, everyone could swim and sunbathe wherever he wants.
      2. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 17 January 2018 12: 03
        12
        Quote: Gardamir
        to go fishing?

        Not only - get out to play hockey, how many goals are scored at a time, they broadcast to the whole country! That would be someone to send to the Olympics, the legends of this game enviously sigh
        1. 406ppm2gv
          406ppm2gv 17 January 2018 21: 06
          +4
          get an amphora from the sea.
        2. Galaktionych
          Galaktionych 18 January 2018 01: 23
          +4
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Quote: Gardamir
          to go fishing?

          Not only - get out to play hockey, how many goals are scored at a time, they broadcast to the whole country! That would be someone to send to the Olympics, the legends of this game enviously sigh

          Well, and send him to the Olympics in Korea. Under the white flag. Everything as he loves.
      3. Conductor
        Conductor 17 January 2018 14: 07
        +8
        With cranes flying.
      4. Galaktionych
        Galaktionych 18 January 2018 01: 21
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        Putin himself sets an example of what to do,
        to go fishing?

        Well, why so?

        Not only fishing, he also enjoys skiing, goes down the bathyscaphe (though Dutch) deep into the Black Sea, flies with the Siberian Cranes, even plays the piano.
    3. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 17 January 2018 13: 23
      15
      Quote: aybolyt678
      the king’s main mission is to keep the Elite in check. Putin himself sets an example of what to do, but the elite is deeply into it ... that’s all people's dissatisfaction. The people should know that the elite is at work and is working out its title. This is not

      Uzdu - showed the elite
      Squeezed - reins
      - offshore all here, return
      But that elite, to p ... s))))
      wassat
      1. Galaktionych
        Galaktionych 18 January 2018 01: 27
        +1
        Quote: Tatanka Yotanka

        Uzdu - showed the elite
        Squeezed - reins
        - offshore all here, return
        But that elite, to p ... s))))
        wassat

        The elite is perplexed
        Something went wrong Himself

        Elite: What did Roldugin give money?
        Putin: Roldugin earned himself!
    4. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 18 January 2018 01: 19
      +4
      Quote: aybolyt678
      the king’s main mission is to keep the Elite in check. Putin himself sets an example of what to do, but the elite is deeply into it ... that’s all people's dissatisfaction. The people should know that the elite is at work and is working out its title. This is not

      Excuse me, what kind of example is Putin setting?

      When does she send her daughters to live abroad? Or when he distributes money to his fellow classmates from the state budget?
    5. master35
      master35 18 January 2018 01: 44
      +5
      Elite can be called S.P. Korolev, J.I. Alferov ... and certainly not the same *** who has one concern - how and with what to fill your womb.
  6. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 17 January 2018 09: 49
    +1
    His campaign today includes classic communist slogans (nationalization of key enterprises in the banking sector, in the field of utilities and telecommunications).

    there would still add the nationalization of transnational corporations, then there will certainly be a civil and external war
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 17 January 2018 10: 04
    +3
    This was a fluid for the German commentator with such a speaking surname to get into the national press!
    Now his calculations do not cause anything but laughter.
  8. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 17 January 2018 10: 06
    +1
    The nonsense of course is present. However, almost everyone among my friends will vote. Someone for Putin, someone for Sobchak, Zhirinovsky. A lot of young people support Navalny, but they didn’t let him into the elections. For quite a long time the party of communists was strong in our region, but now only pensioners, but rare young people who did not live in the USSR, vote for them. In general, the hodgepodge is still one.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 17 January 2018 10: 51
      13
      Navalny could have done one good deed in his entire political career - to urge his supporters to vote for Grudinin. But for some reason he does not.
      1. Maalkavianin
        Maalkavianin 17 January 2018 11: 33
        13
        And let's hope that he doesn’t. :-)
      2. freddyk
        freddyk 17 January 2018 17: 26
        +5
        Quote: uskrabut
        Navalny could have done one good deed in his entire political career - to urge his supporters to vote for Grudinin


        Well, yes, and they will immediately cease to be his supporters. After all, heaps are nihilists. Grudinin for them is a protege of the Kremlin. And for the Kremlin, a protege of the State Department wassat In general, I am grateful to Grudinin for the fact that he rips off masks from our corrupt political scientists and journals. I could not even think how mean and false they are. I wish him to razchelivat this adder, otherwise they are there in power in general have lost the coast.
  9. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 17 January 2018 10: 18
    23
    As always mixed everything and everything in a heap! (this does not apply to the authors of this article). But in one thing the adversaries are right, well, the people do not want to go to the polls without a choice! That's just what I dare to suggest is not apathy, but quite a distinct protest! A protest against manipulation of consciousness, a protest against doing nothing to the authorities, a protest against the simply boring "fat cats" in power.
    1. allaykbar
      allaykbar 17 January 2018 14: 18
      +4
      protest against the simply boring "fat cats" in power.


      vote for boring clowns. You know how.

      It's funny when characters apply the word "boring" to politicians.

      Are you definitely not Ukrainian? Is there enough fun? Should a politician be arrogant and not bored?

      See Petrosyan that you care about the fate of Russia on the forum
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 17 January 2018 15: 39
        +7
        Ahhhh! "daughter of a combat officer." Clown reincarnation of Sergeant Petrov laughing Nothing was expected from you.
  10. planetauuu.com
    planetauuu.com 17 January 2018 10: 23
    26
    "According to the pro-Kremlin VTsIOM, today 7,6% intend to cast their votes for Grudinin."

    A couple of hours ago I watched on YouTube the performance of Hazin. He says that a survey was conducted today, according to which 78% are ready to vote for Grudinin.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 17 January 2018 10: 53
      +1
      made a reservation
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 17 January 2018 11: 05
        +2
        Quote: planetauuu.com
        A couple of hours ago I watched on YouTube the performance of Hazin.

        Quote: uskrabut
        made a reservation

        Grudilin is like a litmus test highlighting all who they really are. Khazin did not make a reservation. He made his KU.
      2. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 17 January 2018 15: 41
        +1
        Freudian reservation wink
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 17 January 2018 12: 06
      15
      Quote: planetauuu.com
      "According to the pro-Kremlin VTsIOM, today 7,6% intend to cast their votes for Grudinin."

      VTsIOM is a public sector, and accordingly, the rating shows what kind of power is needed now. 2000 calls around the country are just unknown to anyone. Here, over 100 thousand voters have already translated and something does not fit with the VTsIOM data at all
      http://president-rf.ru/page/rejting-kandidatov
    3. vlad_vlad
      vlad_vlad 17 January 2018 14: 53
      13
      Quote: planetauuu.com
      "According to the pro-Kremlin VTsIOM, today 7,6% intend to cast their votes for Grudinin."

      A couple of hours ago I watched on YouTube the performance of Hazin. He says that a survey was conducted today, according to which 78% are ready to vote for Grudinin.


      nothing, tomorrow VTsIOM and Khazin confess all sins and change the result. Otherwise, the day after tomorrow they will become foreign agents or taxes not paid will be found.

      I watched a couple of days ago of your Solovyov with some experts. so there they are not shy about wetting this Grudinin from all sides. Seeing is actually dangerous for the king.
  11. Conductor
    Conductor 17 January 2018 10: 26
    11
    P in power since 1999 and what is the result.
    1. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 17 January 2018 10: 38
      +8
      P in power since 1999 and what is the result.

      Conductor, I am in no way a fan of P. Judging by the flag you are from Kazakhstan, so N has been in power since 1990, but what is the result?
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 17 January 2018 11: 42
        15
        I am a citizen of the Russian Federation, I am even a consular registered member. In the Republic of Kazakhstan for personal reasons at the moment, And here the result, deplorable, People are tired and the NAS has already bronzed as Leonid Ilyich. Was recently in Kyrgyzstan, so generally a nightmare, in principle, as elsewhere in the USSR.
        1. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 17 January 2018 11: 47
          +8
          I myself come from the south of Kazakhstan, I was in the summer, and in Kyrgyzstan too, the impressions are similar. In Kyrgyzstan, it’s like a guard at all, whoever says what, to remove cars and electricity - everything is like under the tsar-priest
        2. nickname7
          nickname7 17 January 2018 12: 48
          0
          Conductor
          You are from Kazakhstan, the VO website is opening, it seems. I am also from Kazakhstan, but the VO does not open, I have to take a roundabout way.
          1. Conductor
            Conductor 17 January 2018 13: 49
            +2
            There was a strange situation, before NG, and after, NVO did not open in any way, explanations, then the site is overloaded, then there is no connection. And you, Countryman from which city? I am from Almaty.
            1. Bulrumeb
              Bulrumeb 17 January 2018 15: 28
              0
              I am from Almaty

              Conductor, we are almost fellow countrymen. I am Jambul
      2. Conductor
        Conductor 17 January 2018 11: 56
        11
        By the way, housing and communal services are growing, and prices are rising. Example, I was a lawyer of L. Etoile in the Southern Federal District, the salary was 26 rubles after personal income tax, while in my jurisdiction the Rostov Region, Krasnodar and Stavropol Territories, Adygea, KBR, KCR and North Ossetia, not all regions are calm, the question is why sn is so small, you don’t want to go. My Ex-wife, at 100 offices in: RO, Krasnodar, Stavropol, Volgograd, Simferopol, received, at that time, 5 thousand, plus auto, VHI, payment for mobile communications, fuel and lubricants, and so on, in general, better, but worked for a European company. And ours do not pay, but they pay so I should be glad))) Even the Romans realized that poorly paid labor is not productive.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 17 January 2018 12: 19
          11
          Quote: Conductor
          By the way, housing and communal services are growing, and prices are rising.

        2. Alf
          Alf 17 January 2018 21: 46
          +2
          Quote: Conductor
          Even the Romans realized that poorly paid labor is not productive.

          So the Romans, and we are in Russia.
    2. uskrabut
      uskrabut 17 January 2018 10: 54
      +3
      The result is that he is in power. Vicious circle wassat
    3. Boris55
      Boris55 17 January 2018 11: 01
      +7
      Quote: Conductor
      P in power since 1999 and what is the result.

      Apart from the reign of the Medvedevsky clan?
      According to the results. Russia did not fall apart. Both food security and military security were ensured. It remains to get rid of the dollar, which is what Putin will have to do in the next 6 years. The next bourgeois who will not have time to escape in these six years will be dealt with by the next president.
      1. onix757
        onix757 17 January 2018 11: 06
        28
        It didn’t fall apart while loot was poured into the ethnic republics by cars
        In terms of food security, this is a myth. Food imports have gone up. Grains are not exported from a good life, but because there is nowhere to store. But the people are fed with feed grain and a palm tree.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 17 January 2018 11: 11
          +6
          Quote: onix757
          But the people are fed with feed grain and a palm tree.

          For less watch the horrors on TV. There is only business and not much truth.
          If before his arrival the question was how to feed, today the question is how to feed. What happened before Putin came to refresh memory:
          1. AA17
            AA17 17 January 2018 13: 09
            +8
            Dear Boris55. "... the question was how to feed, today the question is how to feed ..." - Your phrase is very interesting. In the late 90s and early 2000s, we (Russian citizens) reinforced eating “Bush legs” sourced from the USA and which were “rumored” to be inflated with anabolics. But there was no need to choose - there was something to eat. ("... Repeatedly conducted expert checks stated that in these chicken legs the concentrations of various hormones and antibiotics administered to the bird during its active growth are simply prohibitive. As a result, lovers of such legs began to undergo a significant decrease in the body's immunity and the emergence of various dangerous allergic reactions .... - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/321894/nojki-busha-kachestvo
            -myasa-i-ekonomicheskiy-aspekt).
            Now we eat our Russian chicken meat, which is “rumored” to be stuffed with something, too, we have no choice. (Chicken meat in the Russian market turned out to be hazardous to health. Chicken meat released to the Russian market turned out to be hazardous to health. This was the conclusion of experts from the non-profit organization Roskontrol after checking six brands selling broiler chicken thighs, writes “ Lenta.ru. "... In the course of research, an unacceptable number of microorganisms was found in all samples except Petelinka and Yasnyye Zory. In some samples, the level of the indicator was 20-30 times higher than normal, indicating violations of sanitary rules and manufacturing techniques, terms or temperature of storage and sale of meat Read more: http://www.km.ru/zdorove/2018/01/16/istochniki-vr
            ednogo-vozdeistviya-na-zdorove / 818007-kurinoe-mya
            so-na-rossiiskom-ry)
            PS
            1. Experts in the food industry say that if products are made according to GOSTs of the USSR, there will not be enough products in Russia, there will be hunger or urgent need to introduce food cards.
            2. In our region, the number of cancer patients has risen, probably not from healthy food.
            1. AlexKP
              AlexKP 17 January 2018 14: 30
              +3
              Americans eat white meat, and the legs are the so-called red meat; the maximum amount of chicken was laid in them. Feet do not go to the domestic American market, but go to third world countries.
            2. Boris55
              Boris55 17 January 2018 14: 39
              +5
              Quote: AA17
              In the late 90s and early 2000s, we (Russian citizens) reinforced eating “Bush legs”

              Yes. They also ate bush’s legs and canned food for dogs for people ... Then the question was biological survival. Today, the question is already about the quality of the products. This is a significant difference.
              ps. As soon as our problems disappear, we will have no country.
        2. stivev
          stivev 17 January 2018 11: 42
          +4
          TV is contraindicated for you
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 17 January 2018 21: 55
          +1
          And ethnic republics in autonomy will quickly bend.
      2. Sasha_Sar
        Sasha_Sar 17 January 2018 11: 26
        +9
        "With the local bourgeois who do not have time to escape in these six years" is who they are, announce the names. Isn’t that the one with whom he goes fishing and hunting ?!
      3. Conductor
        Conductor 17 January 2018 12: 00
        +8
        You tell doctors, teachers, retirees.
        1. 97110
          97110 17 January 2018 17: 53
          +1
          Quote: Conductor
          You tell doctors, teachers, retirees.

          About the wife’s salary of 75000 thousand rubles? I was joking. And without jokes. In 2007, he worked a little in medicine. Against the background of the very high salaries in the entire district, in the port (a good crane - 30 tyr per month, the average for the port - 10 tyr), I was pleasantly surprised by the average for the MHC of the Central District Hospital - it was 16 tyr, the average for doctors - 19 !! Pensioners are also not the poorest - if you have not succumbed to doctors, then it turns out more than the young for their selfless love for bosses. After 80 more will be added, we will heal !! Compared with the absolute majority, who today receive 10-15 tyr. Teachers do not care how much you pay - there will be little for their work. So they don’t pay ...
      4. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 17 January 2018 12: 10
        +4
        Quote: Boris55
        Provided as food security

        What are you, but the Ministry of Agriculture doesn’t think so
        “Last year,” the Ministry of Agriculture states, “milk production remained at the level of 2015 - 30,7 million tons.” Moreover, the share of domestic products is only 80% with the minimum required, according to the Doctrine of Food Security, 90%.

        “There is a need for imports,” the Ministry of Agriculture admitted, explaining the failure as a “long-term cost recovery in dairy farming.”

        “It will take at least 9-10 years to complete the import substitution,” officials write, not explaining why it is needed. Http://www.mk.ru/economics/2018/01/16/minse
        lkhoz-priznal-molochnoe-importozameshhenie-proval
        ilos.html
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 17 January 2018 14: 46
          +2
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          At the same time, the share of domestic products is only 80%

          Why only 80%? ALREADY 80%! We cannot completely shut ourselves off from the World, and such a task is, in principle, not worth it. Globalization of the World is on and it will be in Russian! Americans crap one's pants with this task.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 17 January 2018 16: 14
            +6
            Quote: Boris55
            Why only 80%? ALREADY 80%!

            That's it, what ALREADY, here's the infographics for you - milk production is not growing, but falling. There were 91 55.7 million tons, but now it has fallen to 30.7. Well, it’s logical that the number of cows falls, especially before palm oil was not indulged in production. And cows are walking canned food, in case of war - that is, there is no smell of food security request
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 17 January 2018 16: 26
              0
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              here is the infographics for you

              And here is the infographics for you laughing
              1. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 17 January 2018 16: 43
                +3
                Quote: Boris55
                And here's the laughing infographic

                And what, she does not match mine? - for milk production in 2013-2015 the same figures
      5. nickname7
        nickname7 17 January 2018 12: 51
        +6
        Food safety myth all milk from palm oil, there will be no oil, milk will disappear.
        1. woron333444
          woron333444 17 January 2018 13: 36
          +5
          Sheer lies, we have local milk. Do not like it, the farmer sell fresh milk.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 17 January 2018 22: 00
          0
          Yes, not all, I buy milk and dairy products - real.
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 January 2018 21: 53
      0
      The result is quite positive - in all areas.
  12. Gardamir
    Gardamir 17 January 2018 10: 33
    14
    Less than 50% came to the election of deputies of the Duma. Of these, less than 50% also voted for EdRo. This is enough for democracy. for justice not. People who want to vote for others do not come. Now it’s the other way around, the authorities want them not to come, and suddenly those who come are not voting for the current president. And provided that no matter how many voters come, one voter is enough. he himself will come, he will vote and he will govern himself further.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 17 January 2018 10: 52
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      Now it’s the opposite, the authorities want them not to come

      Interestingly, does this government have a surname? I now know that the KP editor, who is Putin's confidant, suddenly calls on Solovyov to broadcast throughout the country not to vote for Putin. What is it like?
  13. leonardo_1971
    leonardo_1971 17 January 2018 10: 36
    24
    Grudinin is reproached with 26 million a year! Yes, our officials receive such money a month!
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 17 January 2018 10: 47
      +4
      Quote: leonardo_1971
      Grudinin is reproached with 26 million a year!

      No matter how much. It’s important that he hid it, and Panfilov shut her mouth to the truth-teller about him. This is important. Everything else is blah blah.
      1. onix757
        onix757 17 January 2018 10: 59
        12
        From whom did he hide? What new have you learned, except that he was credited with 7 billion rubles.?
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 17 January 2018 11: 12
          +2
          Quote: onix757
          From whom did he hide?

          And you ask Punfilova why she shuts her mouth to someone who is telling the truth.
          1. Svist
            Svist 17 January 2018 16: 35
            +6
            Because according to the regulations, it is not necessary to list what was on closed accounts. The provocation was too obvious, and Panfilova is far from being a stupid woman.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 17 January 2018 14: 11
        +1
        blah blah.
        http://svpressa.ru/politic/article/190701/?utm_so
        urce = politobzor.net
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 17 January 2018 14: 51
          +5
          Quote: Gardamir
          ... The saddest thing, from the point of view of observing the norms of the law and just an honest election campaign, is that, in the news of many media outlets, of course, “by oversight” 25 million rubles in these already closed accounts of Grudinin turned into 7,5 billion rubles .. .

          The point is not at all how much money he has on FOREIGN accounts, but that he has them and he hid them. He, becoming president, will do everything so that his accounts do not freeze i.e. he will be controlled from abroad and will not act in the interests of Russia.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 17 January 2018 15: 20
            18
            Quote: Boris55
            He, becoming president, will do everything so that his accounts do not freeze i.e. he will be controlled from abroad and will not act in the interests of Russia.

            Why are you putting everything upside down? About offshore accounts "cellist", part-time president’s cum, you keep quiet! About rotenbergs, tmimchenkov with kovalchuki you are not interested?
            Try to explain why the above citizens are better than Grudinin?
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 17 January 2018 15: 28
              +3
              Quote: Stroporez
              Try to explain why the above citizens are better than Grudinin?

              At least the fact that they do not climb into the presidency!
              It remains to be seen how much dough and other property are held by his closest and other relatives abroad, whose interests he will protect in the first place, which means he will be controlled from there.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 17 January 2018 16: 21
                13
                Quote: Boris55
                It remains to be seen how much dough and other property are held by his closest and other relatives abroad, whose interests he will protect in the first place, which means he will be controlled from there.

                Here you are insistent, bring at least some significant amounts that were held by Grudinin and did not coincide with his declaration.
                Quote: Boris55
                At least the fact that they do not climb into the presidency!

                Grudinin did not go anywhere, he was put forward by the NPSR, the Communist Party and the combined patriotic forces, including monarchists.
                Grudini is absolutely transparent, he was not a portfolio holder of a dog, he has no dubious deeds in Leningrad, oligarchs are not among his homies.
                Grudini is not going to the polls with the Government of the People’s Trust and a program to bring the country out of the crisis!
                Where is Putin's program? Who is his team?
                List it! And you are trembling, sneaking up on stupid conspiracy!
                But Putin is just climbing., With the support of his homies, incl. the lady.
                1. Sergey Cojocari
                  Sergey Cojocari 17 January 2018 17: 03
                  +8
                  “At least the fact that they do not climb into the presidency!” - quote Boris 55.
                  This is the main idea of ​​all Putin's supporters. afraid ... females.
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 17 January 2018 17: 09
                    11
                    Quote: Sergey Cojokar
                    “At least the fact that they do not climb into the presidency!” - quote Boris 55.
                    This is the main idea of ​​all Putin's supporters. afraid ... females.

                    Main, but not the only one. Now tons of sewage will be poured onto Grudinin, litter-tv has already begun, and such as Boris-55 will support negative
                    1. Sergey Cojocari
                      Sergey Cojocari 17 January 2018 17: 14
                      +7
                      I think Grudinin and the parties and social movements supporting his candidacy knew what they were doing. Therefore, we must demand an open debate with Putin, and defeat him in the face of his electorate. Otherwise, victory is not to be seen!
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 17 January 2018 17: 19
                        +4
                        Quote: Sergey Cojokar
                        Therefore, we must demand an open debate with Putin, and defeat him in the face of his electorate.

                        I agree that Putin’s lies must be exposed.

                      2. 406ppm2gv
                        406ppm2gv 17 January 2018 21: 22
                        +6
                        Putin’s is the Achilles Heel-open debate.
                2. your1970
                  your1970 17 January 2018 18: 36
                  +3
                  1 point of his program is enough for me - "The program of sustainable development of the village will give him a new life, will revive large-scale agricultural production and social infrastructure in rural areas. For these purposes, we will direct at least 10 percent of budget expenditures. "- and not a word about dying villages, about villages where there are no large (and never will be) producers, small business in the countryside, about cadres in the countryside ...
                  And so on all counts, we’ll give you everything, everyone !!! trust me !!!
                  and people believe ..
                  Only about where I will take the money — no gu-gu, I canceled taxes, canceled the bribes, “Plato” canceled-and immediately promised everything: to the village and the defense and the poor and the housing and communal services by 10%, and no major overhaul (and who will give the money already fully repaired of private houses ?? Budget ??)
                  Balabol promise ....
          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir 17 January 2018 16: 07
            +7
            he has them and he hid them.
            He will not be able to hide, so he did not hide, but to some Seagull, Medvedev, well, to whose friend the cellist, it’s just enough to say what kind of nonsense everyone believes.
          3. Svist
            Svist 17 January 2018 16: 42
            +8
            If he had them hid, he would be removed from the election.
            Quote: Boris55
            he will be controlled from abroad and will not act in the interests of Russia.

            Straight Cassandra, or Wang at least! lol
    2. Sasha_Sar
      Sasha_Sar 17 January 2018 11: 32
      20
      He earns them, gives jobs and pays taxes. If there would have been at least something not in accordance with the law, the business would have been "squeezed out" long ago. But for what Miller with Sechin and K get millions? With us, the post manager can write himself a bonus of 100 "lyam" and this is "normal." The rector of the St. Petersburg University, I can make a mistake, “Gornovka” seems to have received 280 “Lyamov” per year, how is it?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 17 January 2018 22: 06
        +1
        Well, because Miller is the head of one of the largest company in Russia, which has responsibility for its functioning and much more, it’s clear that not everyone can pull such a job, that's why they pay dofig, plus dividends from a million shares.
        1. Sasha_Sar
          Sasha_Sar 23 January 2018 14: 33
          0
          Vadim, do you believe what you said? It is not necessary to pump the bowels of the land of Russian superpower. Our son, Sechin, Vanya at the age of 25 received “For Services to the Fatherland”, II degree, from President Putin, he is the first deputy director of the department of joint projects on the shelf of Rosneft. According to the decree, Sechin Jr. was awarded "for his great contribution to the development of the fuel and energy complex and many years of conscientious work." What is it like? You will remember yourself in 25 years and merits to the fatherland. In our regional center, gas is not in every house (the issue price is from 100 thousand rubles), but I am silent about the districts, villages and villages. "Edges" must be seen, understood in which country you live, how the people in this country survive.
    3. Alf
      Alf 17 January 2018 21: 51
      +4
      Quote: leonardo_1971
      Grudinin reproached 26 million a year

      2 million per month for a person who is responsible for EVERYTHING? Moreover, it answers REALLY, and not as our officials-crisis, sanctions, etc.
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  15. soldier
    soldier 17 January 2018 10: 54
    17
    Putin’s main adversary is not Grudinin

    That yes
    Although both oligarchs, the states are not comparable
    1. onix757
      onix757 17 January 2018 10: 58
      12
      You did not know who the oligarchs were. So, Grudinin did not merge with power
      1. soldier
        soldier 17 January 2018 11: 12
        17
        Yes, the Communist Party has long been "fused" with the current government - and serves the last 20 years, "pretending."
        But I will reformulate - both people are rich, but incomparably.
  16. Tochilka
    Tochilka 17 January 2018 10: 59
    +5
    About the "lure" in the elections delivered ...
    Itself not the first year I enter the election commission. I have never seen "big family games, quizzes, or even football matches." Who, according to the author of the article, will conduct them? And how much trouble will this add to the police, which are already becoming smaller? Rosguard fighters attract?
    There is encouragement for the first time to come to the polls: they give covers for passports, flash drives, badges. all with symbolism.
  17. groks
    groks 17 January 2018 11: 02
    +2
    We see the “creativity” of election bots here almost every other day. Not that, not that they were given little money.
    It seems to me that these same creators, who are above and set the task, chose the wrong path. It is necessary to bring out a competitor not a false communist and a wonderful girl, but something terrible. Superzhirinovsky can only without clowning. And heroically defeat him.
  18. Indifferent
    Indifferent 17 January 2018 11: 06
    +1
    There are a lot of letters, not very good. It's like, "The CPSU teaches that gas expands when heated." "Captain obvious".
    I liked only the author of the showdown F. Ninghuisen.
  19. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 17 January 2018 11: 17
    +6
    MAIN OPPOSITION PEOPLE'S INDIFFERENCE ...
    And notice, neither Grudinin nor Bulk achieved this ...
  20. lukewarm
    lukewarm 17 January 2018 11: 30
    15
    Much has been written both by the author and in the comments about the apathy and unwillingness of "elections without choice." It seems that elections for the sake of an election with at least a thousand candidates are not needed and just as not interesting. On "Comte" was an article that perfectly examines the essence of the "Putin majority." In short - 2000-2004 for saving the country from collapse, stability, the 2nd Chechen. Then - the "fat" oil years, prosperity stability. 2008-2012 - Medvedev, we do not comment, in short everything is bad. Wand for power (if it still somehow depends on the people laughing ) was 2014, Crimea, sanctions. That is rallying against an external enemy. The reason for the negative and apathy for the election is precisely because all these arguments stop working and the result is a systemic crisis. With empty pockets, snickering officials, "manual control" when a woman begins to be treated for oncology only at the personal direction of Putin. It can and touches the grandmothers of the TV: “The good king kicked the ass of the boyars and rescued the aunt” But for me - this is a sentence to the system. And the main goal of the authorities is to not change anything, to stretch the time for 6 years. They seem to be incapable of anything else. I'm not talking about Putin, but about the vertical.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 17 January 2018 12: 05
      +7
      Quote: unwillingly
      With empty pockets, snickering officials, "manual control" when a woman begins to be treated for oncology only at the personal direction of Putin.

      It really bothers me. There is no workable system, not even a simple mechanism!
  21. prior
    prior 17 January 2018 11: 32
    10
    How is Grudinin different from Poroshenko?
    Why is Zhirinovsky still not an honored circus worker?
    Is Sobchak not an elite woman with low social responsibility?
    Didn’t the “apples” from Yavlinsky rot in the last century?
    With Putin's re-election for a working man, will something change? (The minimum wage is equal to the cost of living - it is a victory over common sense).
    Channel, Anal, Failure or Bulk - is that what?
    Which of the following will protect my interests, a working pensioner, maybe Medvedev and Naibulina?
    Is that a choice? Well, then vote for that?
    Russia is great, and there’s nobody to plant in Moscow.
    1. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 17 January 2018 13: 40
      +1
      Quote: prior
      Is that a choice? Well, then vote for that?
      Russia is great, and there’s nobody to plant in Moscow.

      Johnson’s fight or Donya Trump’s call to the kingdom!))))
      1. gafarovsafar
        gafarovsafar 17 January 2018 14: 15
        +1
        I’m fighting for the kingdom! A stinking dog! Guilty of death! And don’s father to stake this first thing
    2. seos
      seos 17 January 2018 15: 16
      0
      Comrade Una for President !!!! good
  22. Runoway
    Runoway 17 January 2018 11: 40
    +6
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote: leonardo_1971
    Grudinin is reproached with 26 million a year!

    No matter how much. It is important that he hid it.

    Hidden only because it is not a plus rating! But he cannot openly say:
    "How not to keep accounts abroad, when you can plow your whole life and the valiant state will make you beggar in an instant, even an ordinary worker (there are enough examples: vouchers, 1998,2008,2014), not to mention
    about a business where they can freeze bills and select tenders "
  23. Pavil144
    Pavil144 17 January 2018 11: 46
    +8
    The comments show that people can’t be fooled. According to the "box" they say how everything is fine in Russia, everything is getting better - economic growth, etc. But somehow ordinary citizens do not feel this growth. And about the election, everyone knows the result.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 17 January 2018 12: 07
      +5
      But you can’t not walk. It doesn’t matter if Grudinin or another candidate doesn’t win, it’s important that the winner will see how many people don’t support him - at least some motivator to move on the throne.
      1. mkop
        mkop 17 January 2018 13: 54
        +4
        Can. But in this case, a person, in my opinion, should not then make claims to the authorities, because when there were elections he did not care who and how to win.
      2. seos
        seos 17 January 2018 15: 19
        0
        In this case, the United States will win because there will be a low legitimacy of power ...
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 17 January 2018 12: 59
      11
      I went to the store, and everyone has such sour faces, as if Crimea is not ours!
  24. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 17 January 2018 11: 47
    23
    But are commentators in Germany really right, and this time Putin will win again? And will he have 70%?

    Sagging, yes calm down you already. Even if Grudinin gains 95% of the vote, Putin will win with 70% of the vote. In the same way as united Russia won, for which almost no one voted. Wizards, why are there ...
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 17 January 2018 12: 11
      +1
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      for which almost no one voted


      other technologies now ... I noticed at the election of deputies that obviously impassable candidates were registered in other parties, the people chose the best of their worst, and they turned out to be edrosovtsy
    2. Korax71
      Korax71 17 January 2018 18: 18
      +1
      Andrei, why not material for the article ??? about the fleet it’s very bombing. As they say, if a person is talented, then talented in everything. I would love to read it in your performance. With respect.
  25. Des10
    Des10 17 January 2018 12: 14
    +3
    Well, looking at a photograph of Grudinin - not knowing his last name - who will say that he is at least a Slav? laughing
    C'mon, but here are the hands - covered with sleeves - some kind of weak.
    1. nickname7
      nickname7 17 January 2018 13: 02
      +4
      Looking at a photograph of Grudinin who will say that he is at least a Slav
      Maybe you do not like Shoigu? In Russia, the main citizenship, not nationality.
      1. Des10
        Des10 17 January 2018 13: 55
        0
        Quote: nickname7
        In Russia, the main citizenship, not nationality.

        certainly the first, but the second is already on business. Shoigu - yes, but G. - you yourself understand smile .
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        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 17 January 2018 14: 18
          +5
          [quote] [Shoigu - yes, but G. - you yourself understand / quote] And what is wrong with Grudinin. Free education, kindergarten, salary for employees of more than 70000
  26. Pavil144
    Pavil144 17 January 2018 12: 27
    +9
    Quote: uskrabut
    But you can’t not walk. It doesn’t matter if Grudinin or another candidate doesn’t win, it’s important that the winner will see how many people don’t support him - at least some motivator to move on the throne.

    It is necessary to return the column against then they will see.
  27. Loess
    Loess 17 January 2018 13: 11
    +2
    I look in an article in Grudinin already found an external resemblance to Stalin. They no longer know how to dodge in order to once again promote.
    1. seos
      seos 17 January 2018 15: 21
      +1
      But I see Yeltsin and Navalny in it ... and the meaning of their words is the same ... Look at his speeches carefully ...
  28. 4803010
    4803010 17 January 2018 13: 34
    +4
    Always voted for Putin. And I have never been disappointed in my choice.
    And now I will vote for him. At least 100 million Russians agree with me. And we will come to the polls.
    Whatever the Germans would prophesy.
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 17 January 2018 13: 53
      10
      You somehow surround for 100 million to say.
    2. Sansculotte
      Sansculotte 17 January 2018 14: 11
      +1
      And then you will vote for Putin’s successor, and then for the successor’s successor.
    3. Alexkorzun
      Alexkorzun 17 January 2018 15: 18
      12
      Will you vote for him again this time? Go ahead!
      A couple of days ago, the great news was broadcast on TV - the President ordered to write off tax debts from individuals and entrepreneurs !! Hooray!
      Such mockery can only be seen before the election.
      But in fact, the debts formed before 01.01.2015 will be written off, that is, the period for their collection is more than three years. But my friends, debts with a term of more than three years and so, by law, are automatically written off !!! We were divorced once again as suckers. It is for suckers that they hold us. They timed the automatic cancellation of the elections and stated that it was the good will of the President. A shame !!!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 January 2018 20: 26
        +2
        Well, and who are you offering the president sir, maybe Medvedev or crazy Sobchak, or a favorite of the West Navalny. Share a silly little thought with us.
    4. Svetlana
      Svetlana 17 January 2018 20: 47
      +3
      Quote: 4803010
      Always voted for Putin. And I have never been disappointed in my choice.
      And now I will vote for him. At least 100 million Russians agree with me.

      Putin's real rating is less than 30%. Where are you 100 million seen ???? !!!!!!!!! Maybe you are Chinese?
  29. shura7782
    shura7782 17 January 2018 13: 50
    14
    How much can you scoff at GDP? You see, a tired man, nothing happens at home. He will even be absent from the debates of candidates, because anyone will smash him. And he is very afraid of this.
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 17 January 2018 14: 11
      +4
      But to be afraid)) and why it’s getting into control, why, the meaning of power in the name of power itself?
      1. Giants
        Giants 17 January 2018 21: 57
        +3
        Quote: Conductor
        and why climbs on the management

        Because you can’t give the Gazprom Trough to the wrong hands. Immediately Stability will collapse!
    2. Pavil144
      Pavil144 17 January 2018 14: 46
      +5
      Again, for him, one of the United Russia party will tell stories
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      2. shura7782
        shura7782 17 January 2018 15: 31
        +3
        After the edros organized the election of Medvedev, I stopped voting for these crafty people. When the Dimon changed the constitution for himself with GDP and a presidential carousel was organized, it became extremely clear that Russia had gotten into trouble. I'm not talking about their "successes". It shouldn't have been like that. Above us, as a deb ..... mi, foreigners are laughing on our TV.
    3. Svist
      Svist 17 January 2018 16: 17
      +7
      I liked Peskov: “In his case, his candidacy, of course, proceeds according to other laws. Although according to the same laws as for everyone else. But the imprint of this presidency of the current one, of course, it will, let’s say, change the situation, ”Peskov pointed out, adding that such a debate is“ meaningless enough. ” (WITH)
      What is it ?! Klitschko, as they say, in a deep hole!
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 17 January 2018 22: 10
        +2
        Peskov, adding that such a debate is "meaningless enough." (C)
        You will not say anything. Well done. Beautifully fell off. This they can do.
  30. Evgtan
    Evgtan 17 January 2018 13: 51
    16
    Let’s choose Putin and immediately we will live well and richly, not like under Putin ...
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 17 January 2018 14: 14
      +6
      I’ll go specially for G to vote)))
      1. dSK
        dSK 18 January 2018 09: 40
        +1
        Quote: Conductor
        for g
        Do you have Russian citizenship? hi
    2. AlexKP
      AlexKP 17 January 2018 14: 37
      +4
      Let’s choose non-Putin and immediately we will live well and richly, not like under Putin ...
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 17 January 2018 22: 14
        0
        and immediately we will live well
        We will not, because the next one will have to disentangle a lot of things.
        1. AlexKP
          AlexKP 18 January 2018 15: 25
          0
          It was sarcasm, if that.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 January 2018 22: 10
      +1
      Under Putin, things went uphill, and not just me, I am for stable development and peace - for Putin.
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 18 January 2018 17: 29
        +2
        Under Putin, things were going against my GDP. Courts with architecture, procrastination with health deportation, etc. etc. through everything had to go through. If someone says that the state is for the development of small business, I laugh in his face. Because it is only in words.
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    1. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 17 January 2018 14: 22
      +5
      Quote: Sankyulot
      and the macron is the voters of France. For Merkel, the party, and for Putin, who? Officials and Caucasian bandits?

      And for the bulk, probably all of Russia? And .. no, all the progressive forces of the liberoid schoolboy.
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  33. NordUral
    NordUral 17 January 2018 14: 18
    15
    Putin’s main adversary is not Grudinin, but popular indifference


    No, not Putin, but Grudinin. Voter indifference to the elections and their failure to appear works for Putin and against his real rival. So then do not shout that everything is bad around. You will not come, you will not vote for a candidate of a single bloc of all forces that are aimed at developing an independent and socially responsible state, there will be no one to blame, except for yourself and your kind.
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 17 January 2018 14: 27
      +3
      Do not you think that the situation in the Russian Federation is slightly overheated? so to speak the masses are tired of P.?
      1. seos
        seos 17 January 2018 15: 23
        0
        There is no alternative .... either Putin or a US protege ... with a return to the saints of the 90s ...
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 17 January 2018 22: 11
        0
        It is only the masses who are tired of such forums - but their minority.
  34. Klaus
    Klaus 17 January 2018 14: 29
    12
    Whoever says anything, but they absolutely recognize that in the country, things are not going the best lately. And all this against the background of some wild obscurantism on federal TV channels ... some psychics, lie detectors, family squabbles of young and not very "stars" of pop music ...
    I’m watching right now News on Russia1: about the elections (!) In our (!) Country - 2 minutes; About America and Trump - 5 minutes. What's this? And by the way, the election campaign in the USA that year, on domestic television was covered at times more and more thoroughly than the current campaign in Russia. Probably because the owners overseas are, respectively, and the interest is different.
  35. Pavil144
    Pavil144 17 January 2018 14: 30
    +8
    Then it is necessary for Grudinin to know his program too. But on TV they show little about him and say mostly about another candidate. I saw him 1 time in one show, to drive his hotels into a dead end with all sorts of questions, but it didn’t work out, he answered sensibly.
    1. seos
      seos 17 January 2018 15: 28
      +2
      answered sensibly
      - the questions were adequate and most important ... but he wagged and bustled, did not give a normal direct answer ... And if you look carefully, it is clear that he is a fake bitch, the shadow government headed by the State Department will steer.
      You can find about his program on the Internet ... there are even points on the development of the bohemian parasite tribe ... and other artists ...
  36. BecmepH
    BecmepH 17 January 2018 14: 31
    +3
    The businessman-Poroshenko became president ... The picture is awful!
    He became the president of the businessman-trump ... That is sickening!
    The businessman-Grudinin will become president ... No words!
    A businessman’s brain is designed to think only of himself. "Nothing personal, just business" (C).
    And the president, first of all, should think about the people ... I wrote and I laugh myself. Laugh and cry ...
    1. Pavil144
      Pavil144 17 January 2018 14: 37
      0
      Well then, the candidate, respectively, from the people is necessary. At the moment, there are none and are not expected. Choose from whom to eat.
      1. Klaus
        Klaus 17 January 2018 14: 42
        0
        And the current candidates that were cloned on Mars and sent to us? laughing
  37. Megamarcel
    Megamarcel 17 January 2018 14: 42
    +9
    I will vote for Grudinin. Firstly, because he graduated from the same university as he, and secondly because the authorities need a person with a normal education, and not all these fake lawyers. All the same, it’s bad that we are poor at the Moscow State Agrarian University named after V.P. Goryachkin was taught to build, not to scratch his tongue.
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 17 January 2018 15: 07
      +2
      Last name Goryachkin does not inspire))))
  38. Evgtan
    Evgtan 17 January 2018 15: 00
    +5
    - We are all going to the polls. Whoever is for Putin puts a checkmark in front of his surname, who is against - a cross.
  39. Radikal
    Radikal 17 January 2018 15: 42
    +3
    Quote: Antianglosaks
    Dear AA17. I do not agree with you. You are mistaken in thinking that the population does not give a damn about the elections. Some part, maybe not, but a lot of people don't give a damn. Everything is rightly said in the article, popular indifference to elections and power is quite obvious, just as obvious complete indifference of those in power to the aspirations of the peoples of Russia. Who understands, who feels that it is impossible to build and build in this system, the system is completely anti-people, hopelessness is growing. In addition, the people will never agree with the results of privatization. A bunch of fraudsters and crooks brazenly and cynically appropriated popular good, took these funds out of the cordon, and continue to hamper the country in the last century. Authorities constantly violate an unspoken social contract; they no longer have faith, just as there is no faith and hope for a worthy future.
    “the volume of offshore capital of Russians exceeds the level of the country's foreign exchange reserves by about three times. In 2015, the volume of assets transferred to offshore amounted to about 75% of the country's national income. In other words, offshore centers contain almost as much finance of wealthy Russians as the entire population Russia keeps inside the country. "
    There are a lot of statistics: http://andreyfursov.ru/news/volja_pobezhdat/2018-
    01-13-682.
    “According to the Global Wealth Report, 1% of wealthy Russians account for 71% of all personal assets of Russia. For comparison: 1% of wealthy people in India account for 49% of personal assets, in Africa - 44%, in the USA - 37%, in China and Europe - 32%, in Europe - 17%. The average world figure is 46%, and here we have 71%, that is, the rich of Russia exceeded the world figures by 1,6 times. Another indicator by which the Russian leader is this is the share of the richest 5% of the population in the personal wealth of the country - 82,5%. The remaining 95, therefore, have 17,5% - and, as they say, do not deny yourself anything! Another killer figure: 96 "Russian billionaires own 30% of all personal assets of citizens of the Russian Federation. The average global figure is 2%. That is, Russian billionaires are 15 times steeper than the global average."
    These are objective data, confirmed by many sources.
    “in the Russian Federation, the number of multimillionaires with over 30 million dollars, cent millionaires from 100 million, and billionaires increased 2004 times from 2014 to 3,5 and, according to the forecast, will increase by 2024 times by 1992. And the other side the medals are as follows: from 2016 to 1,7, 25 trillion dollars were stolen from Russia in the form of illegal financial flows, raw materials were exported for 5 trillion dollars over XNUMX years. "
    Why would the people go to vote for the same hopelessness ?? !!! It is clear that Putin is the only sane candidate and let him win, but without my vote (I’ll ruin the ballot by writing on it everything I think about this thieving system). In my opinion, Putin has not done the 20th part of what he could, and without much effort. Maybe I'm wrong, and our sovereign 18 years was engaged in some other important matters, geopolitics, for example ... Only the results of the results are very deplorable and getting worse and worse.

    You have too good opinions about him .... hi
    1. AsKet84
      AsKet84 17 January 2018 17: 23
      +1
      I AGREE, BUT SORTING THE NEWSLETTER You will ruin the paper which has at least one copy and you will fake your coddle for one or two. On another form. A revolution is not possible, for the good of the people, because she will again use the wrong and not in that country ....
    2. Selvester
      Selvester 17 January 2018 17: 33
      0
      What about the views of Bendera and other pro-Western liberoid trash about Putin? Is it right? Then you are one of them. Change your profile picture - Hitler will suit you better, or some Vlasov.
  40. wachmann
    wachmann 17 January 2018 16: 51
    +2
    the communists knew a lot about it: there were always buffets with some kind of deficit at polling stations ...
    and now you can come up with something other than empty promises that you can’t spread on bread;)
  41. Natalia777
    Natalia777 17 January 2018 16: 58
    +2
    What is the purpose of the project "Grudinin"? Yeltsinoid and the Yabloko Boldyrev and the false communist Zyuganov organize a disguised color revolution pushing Grudinin to the presidency. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3RlYutStUQ
  42. Natalia777
    Natalia777 17 January 2018 16: 58
    0
    JOURNALISTIC INVESTIGATION LIFE NEWS:
    Laundry for the candidate. How Pavel Grudinin hid money
    http://stockinfocus.ru/2018/01/17/prachechnaya-dl
    ya-kandidata-kak-pavel-grudinin-dengi-perepryatyv
    al /? utm_campaign = 5006179 & utm_source = SendPulse
    & utm_medium = push
    1. Svist
      Svist 17 January 2018 22: 35
      +2
      Natalia, it’s better to tell how Shavkat Miromonovich Mirziyoyev is doing there, it will be at least believable. AND life news everyone knows the trash. yes
  43. Freeman
    Freeman 17 January 2018 17: 12
    +4
    Anti-Anglosax Today, 12:20
    It is clear that Putin is the only sane candidate and let him win

    May he win and sign this law faster
    MOSCOW, Jan 16 - RIA News. The Ministry of Finance proposes to remove all restrictions on the movement of funds in foreign bank accounts of Russian citizens, said Deputy Minister of Finance of Russia Alexei Moiseev at the Gaidar Forum.
    "The need is long overdue cancel и requirements for the repatriation of foreign exchange earnings, cancel accounting for the fate of the advance payment on imports, and besides, cancel any restrictions on the movement of accounts of citizens of the Russian Federation - both (currency - ed.) Residents and (currency - ed.) Non-residents, "said Moiseev.

    https://ria.ru/economy/20180116/1512714254.html

    And the way you write
    the volume of assets taken offshore amounted to about 75% of the country's national income.

    It will not be enough! You give 146% !!! wassat
  44. kvant21
    kvant21 17 January 2018 17: 13
    +7
    Only the strength, endurance, patience and literacy of our - PEOPLE'S PEOPLE P.N. GRUDININ will lead to victory in the March 18 elections! Well, of course, our strong and ACTIVE support and human agitation will become a great support to him in achieving our joint HOPES !!! In this situation, our INTERESTS are his interests, which he confirms in 20 steps from his election program. Dear like-minded people, we will vote for P.N. GRUDININ !!! And for the time being, let us actively and with determination engage in agitation. work for P.N. GRUDININ !!!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 January 2018 22: 19
      0
      This Grudinin is noodles for suckers, the dude has billions of rubles abroad, there is no boom in big politics, there is no development strategy - except for notes from the Communist Party loony bin and voting for him - it's like buying underpants for hemorrhoids for 80000, after the first advertisement about them , on TV.
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  46. istepanov
    istepanov 17 January 2018 17: 18
    +6
    Putin’s strategy is a quiet glanders, connivance of the liberals who have been encircled, to bring the country to the point of no return and give the Jews, not fictitious inflamed consciousness to the Jews, but a real burry (cut off on the 8th day and encoded by the Torah) zombone people. And bury civilization, as opposed to the efforts of Trump, and Xi Jinping and Nazarbayev, Iran and Turkey, which the liquid minded man brazenly tries to beat with the help of "Putin."
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  48. istepanov
    istepanov 17 January 2018 17: 44
    +2
    And so, the half-dead genetics of the East European Plain continues to undergo Jewish genocide-generating impacts like the Sobyaninsko-Mamutsky “ant renovation,” which generates several generations at the expense of the budget.
    The President, who does not see and does not hear the people, who does not understand the obvious conceptual development priorities, who does not know how to distinguish them among the host of liquid trojans, is obliged to collect the VUSS without hesitating and dragging on the unequivocal situation of the Jewishly controlled sternum, which is known to be negotiated with - marna prazia .
    The people that are discussed in the article, this is the highest goal-setting of this Supra-Politiker. Yes, it’s not simple, yes, it’s not understandable to everyone, in the usurious paradigm it’s generally not kosher, but with a divine providence. - HIGHER.
  49. turbris
    turbris 17 January 2018 18: 28
    +1
    “The Kremlin today has learned a lot in its own propaganda, American help is hardly needed. And the times are not the same: the sides switched from a former friendship to a war of sanctions. But are commentators in Germany right and Putin will win again this time? And he will have 70% ? " And who would doubt it? That will be so, and the turnout will be worthy, so the author’s hopes are unlikely to come true.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 17 January 2018 19: 32
      +2
      I believe that Putin’s election will end with the victory of the tsar. But by no means with a result of 70 to 70. The rhetoric is incomprehensible. I HAVE MUCH SO MUCH FOR 18 YEARS .. Do we have a presidential term of 18 years? Then, please, about achievements in 5 years. The deserved praises of 2000-2013 have already resounded.
      1. turbris
        turbris 19 January 2018 14: 27
        +1
        KBR109 - you choose your kings, and we are the president who has great authority both in the country and around the world. Maybe it's time to stop this whining? You have no alternative proposals, so your opinion is not interesting to anyone ..
        1. KBR109
          KBR109 19 January 2018 15: 20
          0
          My alternative suggestion is just compliance with the Constitution. And if some want to have a president for ten terms, then this had to be taken care of in advance, since the parliamentary advantage allowed. And at the moment this is the election of the king. And do not make yourself the ultimate truth.
  50. Kurochkin
    Kurochkin 17 January 2018 18: 36
    0
    That's the truth Russians !!!