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Perm: it will only get worse

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Yes, I want to say a few words about it. The tragedy in Perm says that everything that happened is natural, and then it will only get worse.




The only question is which city is next. Where the roof of the next drug addict or the mentally handicapped will fly, blood will spill, scooped-up officials of all stripes and ranks run. And again there will be assurances at the "highest" level that "measures will be taken, vigils strengthened" and other nonsense and rubbish.

Actually, nothing, as late.

Yes, stupid and boring, I will again look back and regret the destruction of the system of ideological pumping and civic education of the USSR.

Gentlemen Democrats Yeltsin and Putin successfully destroyed the Soviet system.

Well, or so: the enemy of Russia Yeltsin for 8 years completely destroyed everything that was created in the USSR, and Putin for 18 for years could not build anything new or at least repair the old one.

Well, not before that: gas pipelines are more important.

It doesn’t matter here anymore, the fact is important: in 26 years - the most complete zero and social network as an educational factor.

Parents? I don’t even want to look, not to say anything in their direction. It is unfair to charge all teachers and parents at school. Parents have the main responsibility: to feed, clothe and pay for education.

So, sorry, it’s started. Parents need to plow first. And in the second too. Otherwise, the prospect, as Mr. Chubais said at the time, does not fit into the market.

And here are the first fruits. Parents fit into the market, teachers teach, not teach, their salary does not go to them. And the state arranges such a system, because it is much easier to manage the herd. Well, we already talked about this, right?

Of course, there were attempts. It was “Youth Unity”, which died as “Young Guard of“ United Russia ”, were“ Nashi ”, now there is“ Unarmia ”and“ Molodezhka ONF ”.

In general, if judged, simulators of vigorous activity.

So it is clear that after the speeches and demonstrations of the forces Navalny realized that something had to be done. That's just clear that there is no most important thing - understanding what exactly needs to be done.

Because quietly shizeeesh, visiting the group "Molodezhki" in contact. Milota, leopards, contests, songs and more. Internet cud for mentally disabled. But - "Molodezhka ONF".

On the "adult" site a little more interesting. But there is no main thing - there is at least some kind of ideology.

Calls and slogans enough. But how to create change, if there is no main thing: there is no understanding of the essence of change? Just shaking the Internet air by those who seem to have to do something, but do not know how.

And here is the logical result. Stabbing as a result.

Yes, as I said above, they will now devote all their forces to improving security in educational institutions, will have directors, and so on.

What's the point?

No one is going to do the main thing. At least to think about the fact that it is half the battle to knock out additional amounts for protection from parents. Somewhere will pay, but somewhere not. For you will not take money from the shelf if you have not put them there.

The main thing is the prevention of such cases, inspired by relevant videos and movies. And the way of life, promoted by dozens of talk shows in the style of “die you today, so that I die tomorrow”.

And here’s how not to recall the defective, totalitarian and stepwise preparation of citizens in the USSR? Oktyabrenok-pioneer Komsomol. Was it bad? And now is better, yes? Is tv-internet internet better?

Modern children, of course, are not perfect. But not idiots without exception, is it? Many will grow up and wiser. Many do not. But the whole question is what ideals will be written in their heads in the process of growth and intelligence.

By the way, Navalny just does not create "young people" and "ours", he has all his own. And he calls for young people to play completely adult games. Type Maidan Square and the House of Trade Unions.

And this is obviously more interesting and more productive than the milots and frankly retarded contests of the youth team.

And in general, I don’t remember who said it, but said great: working with the younger generations without ideology is training for those who have ideology.

The internet has ideology. So - to be continued.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 17 January 2018 06: 05
    +8
    Whatever the worse, you need to tackle the education system in the most serious way from A to Z.
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    2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 January 2018 06: 37
      11
      There, parents need to be educated, not transferred to school. And so, the Dulles plan works. Some children and teachers are being slaughtered, others are pretending to be gay, while others are driving gelendvagens and ferrari at breakneck speed, fourth animals are being tortured, etc. Yesterday in the news I read which cadets of the Ulyanovsk flying school shot a clip, there were no censorship words.
      1. raw174
        raw174 17 January 2018 06: 55
        +6
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        Yesterday in the news I read which cadets of the Ulyanovsk flying school shot a clip,

        Yes shtob them! I saw it! How to see now? !!!
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 17 January 2018 07: 21
        +9
        I remembered the club "Blue Oyster". wassat
      3. free
        free 17 January 2018 11: 01
        +1
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        There, parents need to be educated, not transferred to school. And so, the Dulles plan works. Some children and teachers are being slaughtered, others are pretending to be gay, while others are driving gelendvagens and ferrari at breakneck speed, fourth animals are being tortured, etc. Yesterday in the news I read which cadets of the Ulyanovsk flying school shot a clip, there were no censorship words.

        Scum without a drop of self-esteem!
      4. cariperpaint
        cariperpaint 17 January 2018 18: 48
        +3
        Yes, it was just banter) children) stupid children) why they all fell on them I do not understand)
    3. Prometey
      Prometey 17 January 2018 07: 42
      +2
      Once again?
      1. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 17 January 2018 12: 41
        +7
        Quote: Prometey
        Once again?

        It will only get bigger and worse!, There is no system of upbringing and education, parents plow in galleys, children sit in the internet - the western mouthpiece! The authorities do not care about the people and their prosperity. The country has no future !!! And without ideology and even more so!
        According to the Federal State Statistics Service, the number of people leaving the Russian Federation is constantly growing: 2011 - 36 people, 774 - 2012 people, 122 - 751 people, 2013 - 186 people, 382 - 2014 people. Of the 310 million people who left over the past 496 years, one and a half million are scientists, mainly young and promising. This is an asymmetric response to the situation in the RAS, which is determined by two factors: the inertness and inadequacy of the leadership of the RAS itself and its pogrom from the outside under the guise of reforms.
        I did not find data for 2017 (although it is clear that there are more than in 2016), in 2016 about 15% more than in 2015.
        The oligarchs and the government, which, in fact, expresses their interests, do not care about stagnation, because stagnation is their means of solving problems at the expense of the population.
        According to the project, less will be allocated to the social sphere of funds in 2018 than in 2017: 4,86 trillion instead of 5 trillion. And we have already been told that in 2019 there will be even less and there will be the toughest budget for all the years of the XXI century. That is, guys, tighten your belts, there is no money, but you hold on! It is clear: if this policy continues, the government will increase taxes and resort to more or less hidden forms of expropriation. One example is the "country story", which caused outrage.
        http://andreyfursov.ru/news/volja_pobezhdat/2018-
        01-13-682
    4. NordUral
      NordUral 17 January 2018 08: 58
      15
      It is necessary to deal with the system - that's for sure, moreover, from A to Z. To return to the country the ideology of socialism, renewed and just. Otherwise, everything will continue incrementally. They told you directly that we did not need clever men (we are not us, but they), we need sheep and consumers and stupid attendants.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 17 January 2018 14: 56
        +5
        Quote: NordUral
        The system must be dealt with - that's for sure, from A to Z.

        Exactly! System!
        Since with the lifestyle imposed by the SYSTEM, no teachers and parents combined can cope. Even if they quit working at all and will only be engaged in raising children.
        I did not want to mention, but I will say.
        Religion seems to have been legalized and exalted. Churches, temples, mosques were built in each district for a dozen. Believers increased. It seems that she is the victory of morality and spiritual wealth. But no, "Pussy Rioty" only breed. And all because the state should deal with the moral character of the nation, and the state, in the person of the system, tells us: “We owe you nothing, because the pipe gives more revenue with a minimum of costs, unlike some kind of illusory“ moral health of the nation. ” - you all go to .... business.
        According to this socialism (at least) there is no alternative, because only that system gave a positive result of the moral education of society taken from the totality of positive ideas of different religions of the country in the form of the "Moral Code of the Builder of Communism"
        1. Stin 55
          Stin 55 17 January 2018 22: 16
          +3
          For 30 years, the BARDAKA, especially the last 18 years, clearly show that only the Socialist System can exist in Russia. Russia has no other way.
          The next 6 years of Putin, Russia will not survive.
          Europe needs to be seen only as an ENEMY. The fact that they consider us as such is visible with the naked eye.
          If you take a quick look at the actions of the West around the World, you can see only one tendency.
          USA - where and in what condition are the indigenous peoples? South Africa, in particular the entire African continent? By the way - the richest continent. How do natives live in Australia? In New Zealand?
          Russia expects the same fate, or rather, its peoples.
          The West has long divided Russia into spheres (zones) of influence.
          Putin copes with the mission assigned to them by the West.
          Do you want our grandchildren to live on reservations? Vote for Putin.
          1. seos
            seos 21 January 2018 11: 56
            0
            Sisyan considers Europe as a friend and master of this, he directly speaks about it live ...
            By voting for Grudinin you vote for the liberals and Yeltsin ... and the 2nd Yeltsin is not something that the country, the people will not survive ...
    5. Vladimirsky
      Vladimirsky 17 January 2018 09: 26
      +7
      The author is able to spoil the mood with his super pessimism right in the morning.
      Yeltsin, Putin are to blame as always ..... Parents who brought up earflaps (not to say worse) are good, school figures are hard workers.
      Quote: “Parents? I don’t want to even look, I don’t want to speak in their direction. It is unfair to put all the responsibility on the teachers at school and parents. Parents have the main responsibility: to feed, clothe and pay for school.”
      Talking about the role of the country's leader in raising such idiots in an article is an opportunity for a pug to kick an elephant.
      1. seos
        seos 21 January 2018 12: 09
        0
        With the collapse of the Soviet Union, crime infiltrated all spheres of life, including schools, thieves in law supervise youth gangs and all their lives in schools, they cultivate their followers there ...
        At the moment, the only way to deal with this is private or elite schools ... but nobody knows how to put things in order in ordinary schools ...

        The liberal state has lost control over citizens, here it is not even an ideology, but liberalism itself ..
        Perhaps the only measure that can be taken in the distant future is the transition to a police state, with maximum tightening of control over the population and officials ... With the modern development of technologies and their use, this can give an amazing result ...
        Especially remember how tightening the nuts helped at the initial stage of the formation of the USSR, it was necessary to overcome the consequences of the civil war. Especially after the people calm down and get used to living by the rules, it will be possible to weaken control ...
    6. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 17 January 2018 09: 42
      11
      Was there a boy?
      Or did the system begin to produce results?
      First there were Urengoy boys and girls. Today, boys are from Perm.
      Where is tomorrow?
      System failures.
      Education and upbringing go together. There is no one without the other.
      On the other hand, whom do we teach and educate? Consumers of House -2 and the heroes of Lehi Navalnovnovgo., Lovers of the American dollar ...?
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 17 January 2018 09: 57
        +6
        Quote: To be or not to be
        Was there a boy?
        Or did the system begin to produce results?
        First there were Urengoy boys and girls. Today, boys are from Perm.

        And before that there were two swells from Khabarovsk who mocked puppies and kittens, and the plans included children. And Varenka Karaulov would not hurt to remember ....
        It went "berries", and the flowers were in the form of their parents. Soon there will be a plentiful "harvest".
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 17 January 2018 10: 03
      +4
      The story is already quite muddy. The version that two friends of the guys came to school peacefully, with knives (without causing suspicion of the guard) to cut each other for some reason in the elementary class, but instead they began to cut the throat of the teacher and stab the kids with knives, doesn’t go into any gates . belay
    8. free
      free 17 January 2018 11: 05
      +5
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Whatever the worse, you need to tackle the education system in the most serious way from A to Z.

      Changing the approach to education as well as to everything else (because you can not treat the head separately from the whole body) is impossible without changing this whole infinitely vile, unprincipled, thieves' system.
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  3. zzdimk
    zzdimk 17 January 2018 06: 21
    22
    What is the minor liberalism in the sauce of nostalgia socialist sense? the problem is not so much in the education system as in the minds of the parents of these children. All the dung came along with the rights of children and the advocates of these rights. The rods, the belt and the peas perfectly cure the turbidity of the child's mind.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 17 January 2018 06: 33
      14
      Quote: zzdimk
      belt and peas perfectly treat the clouding of children's mind.

      As yesterday, I remember the acquaintance of my ass with my father's harness fellow And as a reminder of the consequence of an unfavorable act, her constant presence on a hanger in the kitchen before my eyes during breakfast, lunch and dinner repeat
      And normal grew up, with the notion of what is possible and what is not request
      Personally, I think that education begins at home yes And the rest (schools and the Internet with armies and a street) only improve the basics of what the father and mother had driven into the head initially hi
      1. ghby
        ghby 17 January 2018 07: 41
        0
        Quote: Rurikovich
        As yesterday I remember my ass getting to know my father’s sword belt And as a reminder of the consequence of an unsuitable act, her constant presence on a hanger in the kitchen before my eyes during breakfast lunch and dinner
        And normal grew up, with the notion of what is possible and what is not

        Our lash was from rawhide, for educational purposes)))
    2. raw174
      raw174 17 January 2018 07: 01
      29
      Quote: zzdimk
      All the dung came along with the rights of children and the defenders of these rights.

      Exactly! Last year's case, when in the city of Troitsk, Chelyabinsk Region, prosecutors weakened the school principal for compelling us in the summer !!! children of grades 8-10 to water flowers on the school grounds! but this did not happen out of the blue, but according to the statement of the parents! Here it is evil! And in class 3 I went for potatoes in the back of a ZIL, he insulated the heating main in the school yard with glass wool at 8, school desks and chairs were repaired in the workshop ... I didn’t become a moron and my legs didn’t refuse ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 17 January 2018 07: 13
        18
        And on beets, in general, everyone with ax knives went. And I don’t remember that someone would chop someone down there, beside the tops and mice. And as soon as they lived?
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 17 January 2018 07: 20
          11
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          yes mice

          Mice - sorry crying
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 17 January 2018 09: 03
            0
            We removed the skin from them. And they also tried to catch gophers, but something did not work out. Several buckets were poured into burrows, but for some reason they did not climb out.
            1. vadsonen
              vadsonen 21 January 2018 00: 20
              +1
              We removed the skin from them. And they also tried to catch gophers, but something did not work out. Several buckets were poured into burrows, but for some reason they did not climb out.

              Yes, you, father, grew up a sadist.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 21 January 2018 08: 15
                0
                Judging by yours, any hunter is a sadist.
          2. Cat Marquis
            Cat Marquis 17 January 2018 09: 06
            +6
            Mice - sorry


            As the "cat" I say, "there is nothing to spare them (mice)!
      2. Prometey
        Prometey 17 January 2018 07: 31
        +2
        Quote: raw174
        prosecutors slaughtered the school principal for FORCING in the summer !!! children of grades 8-10 to water flowers

        Most likely a lie. Parents themselves are asked to attract children to not hard physical work.
        Quote: raw174
        And in class 3 I went for potatoes in the back of a ZIL, I heated the heating main in the school yard with glass wool

        I also went to potatoes, but not in the back, but on the buses. Although the glass wool and body responsible immediately to hard labor had to be sent.
        1. SPLV
          SPLV 17 January 2018 10: 00
          +9
          Quote: Prometey
          Although the glass wool and body responsible immediately to hard labor had to be sent.

          Yes, Prometheus is not the same. Once they gave the liver to an eagle, but now they are ready, of course, but only in a clinic and not all.
          That is, in villages and small towns where there were no buses, you can only walk on foot? And we knew about glass wool, which we were familiar with from the first class, since they were all the surrounding construction sites, than most modern adults. And some from 14-15 years and at the enterprises managed to work. By the end of school, we knew more about life and work than many now in 30. In addition to "sex", of course. He was not in the USSR.
          And they were familiar with responsibility for their actions.
        2. raw174
          raw174 17 January 2018 13: 36
          +2
          Quote: Prometey
          Most likely, a lie

          Definitely not a lie, 100%.
          Quote: Prometey
          Although the glass wool and body responsible immediately to hard labor had to be sent.

          Why, it didn’t diminish from anyone, even they brought home potatoes in a bucket)))
      3. Conductor
        Conductor 17 January 2018 10: 09
        +2
        Adults teach children from parents to teachers, and if everyone has chaos and fear in their head, losing their jobs, positions and so on, and all this was created by faithful Putiners. My niece was asked in grade 1 and what kind of car you have, the glory of God was normal, I explained to him that such a question didn’t exist in my time, but then by the end of 80 he began to raise up who was wearing what to start with.
      4. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 17 January 2018 14: 34
        0
        Quote: raw174
        And in class 3 I went for potatoes in the back of a ZIL, he insulated the heating main in the school yard with glass wool at 8, school desks and chairs were repaired in the workshop ... I didn’t become a moron and my legs didn’t refuse ...

        And not only you, but also many millions of Soviet people. However, the stinking manure, which is in power in Russia, is all uninteresting, and these nonsense laws pass what they and their western masters need, and not the majority of the population of Russia. We have all branches of power essentially anti-people, serving exclusively the interests of the oligarchs and the man with the dough. What can I talk about ?!
    3. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 17 January 2018 08: 56
      +5
      Quote: zzdimk
      the problem is not so much in the education system as in the minds of the parents of these children.

      The problem is in the education and in the minds of the parents. Old-style education (Soviet / tsarist) is gradually being dismantled in order to please Western values, where they are preparing not creators, but consumers ...
      Quote: zzdimk
      All the dung came along with the rights of children and the defenders of these rights.

      The whole "dung" is not only in the rights of children, and not so much in it, but in the upbringing of the parents themselves, when these parents were the children themselves. The mother of one of the teenagers who attacked the school refused to attend Him at all in the hospital. What is this? Is that right? This is Her child, whatever He may be. Children in orphanages with living parents, elderly parents in "Old age houses" with luxuriously living children, do not care about children (go play on the computer while I watch the series) ... Endless production shows with swearing and fights between close relatives. What values ​​were invested in the minds of fathers and mothers, these same values ​​“migrated” to the minds of their children, and were further worsened by the “cultural environment” of modern youth.
      It may be a little messy, but just boiling ....
    4. NordUral
      NordUral 17 January 2018 09: 02
      +2
      My friend, how do you combine liberalism and socialism? After all, they are, in fact, antipodes. And it was liberalism that led to the current state of affairs in the country.
  4. Des10
    Des10 17 January 2018 06: 29
    0
    "And this is obviously more interesting and productive than the cuteness and frankly moronic contests of the" youth team. "
    In general, it is true that many people have consonant thoughts - according to the article.
    The solution is what?
    And "milota" is just an Internet term.
  5. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 17 January 2018 06: 30
    +7
    and a friend of the Russian people, Putin, for 18 years could not build anything new or at least repair the old.
    This is of course the author’s bust! I do not agree with your opinion. Quite a lot has been built. Positive has been done during this time too. However, along with this there is a huge "black hole" in place of the ideology of the state and upbringing, education of the younger generation. This is where the trouble is complete.
    1. raw174
      raw174 17 January 2018 07: 04
      +4
      Quote: astronom1973n
      However, along with this there is a huge "black hole" in place of the ideology of the state and education, the formation of the younger generation.

      There is a problem, voiced, give suggestions ... I also agree with you, but so far I do not see a way out, I do not see a clear ideology ...
      1. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n 17 January 2018 07: 13
        +3
        Quote: raw174
        Quote: astronom1973n
        However, along with this there is a huge "black hole" in place of the ideology of the state and education, the formation of the younger generation.
        There is a problem, voiced, give suggestions ... I also agree with you, but so far I do not see a way out, I do not see a clear ideology ...

        In this situation, yes .. there is no way out. Is it really necessary to shake up again.
        And so the situation is interesting. It turns out that part of the population is important and necessary, but is it necessary above? Or is the main chic and show pretentious, and not the result and painstaking work? Ah ... is it true for some shows and chic, for others painstaking work? From the stands one thing sounds in real life and the performance is different.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 17 January 2018 08: 43
          +1
          “A lot has been built. It’s been done positive during this time, too.” What was so positive built in the education system in 18 years? The article is about the education system. The fact that the vast majority of universities have become paid, is the number of schools decreasing by the number of students, this notorious exam?
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 17 January 2018 08: 59
        +4
        Quote: astronom1973n
        This is of course the author’s bust! I do not agree with your opinion. Built quite a lot.

        It’s not enough, since such terrible things happen!
        I have a direct charge of power:
        - Why schools can not protect against drug addiction? It is schoolchildren in schools who are injected with drugs. The problem of addiction instead of solving - is hushed up! They don’t write about it or show it anywhere ... And the perpetrators of the last drama were just drug addicts.
        - The problem of AIDS. Russia is one of the most disadvantaged countries in this. But they are silent about it !!! Why in Russia there are no condoms available for young people (and not only)? If in other countries they are handed out free of charge, and they cost a penny, in Russia three cool guys captured the sale of condoms who forbid them to sell cheap, and everywhere they sell only their expensive ones (10 times more expensive) in various packaging and names that belong only to their companies .
        - Why there are no free sports sections ?. Sport does not develop among the masses! There are no courtyard teams like hockey. No boxes.
        - To training and education. Who is being raised in schools now? What ideals? What are some examples for students today to follow? Around one loot! Beautiful life, but unattainable for most! Therefore, you need to go over your heads, tear the blanket over yourself ... What they sculpt from the young generation, they get the output. Finished egoists! Who want to become not leaders of production, but torn oligarchs, who own 80% of all wealth.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 17 January 2018 09: 34
          +1
          So yes, the accusations are correct. But then what are the parents? After all, everything comes from parenting in the family! By the way, in recent years, it has become very noticeable that parents (mainly mothers) from 2 to 3 years old send their children to development schools, thus shifting the upbringing of children and their education "to the side", relieving themselves of these responsibilities. And at an older age and even more so - the child sits at the phone / computer and okay - the main thing is not asking for anything special
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 17 January 2018 10: 57
            +4
            Quote: Dangerous
            So yes, the accusations are correct. But then what are the parents? After all, everything comes from parenting in the family!

            And it affects parents, all that is bad and good happens in the state. There were families in the USSR, too, but the upbringing is completely different. And in Ukraine, what kind of education, if there the whole country rides in pots? They are not taught in families there.
          2. Sasha_Sar
            Sasha_Sar 17 January 2018 11: 47
            0
            All right, just what to live on then? My wife needs to work 60 hours a week to get 25 thousand a month. It’s good that she has me. We do not grow up three sons from hunger. But not everything is so, not everyone is so lucky ...
            1. Dangerous
              Dangerous 17 January 2018 13: 48
              0
              “It’s good that she has me” - as they say, you won’t praise yourself ...
              "not everyone is so lucky" - yes, we are all unlucky that we do not have you! laughing
        2. raw174
          raw174 17 January 2018 14: 14
          0
          Quote: Stas157
          Why can't schools protect against addiction?

          Yes, but how do you imagine it? On practice...
          Quote: Stas157
          The problem of AIDS. Russia is one of the most disadvantaged countries in this. But they are silent about it !!!

          Well, how silent! Have you ever seen people with red ribbons? and free testing 2-3 times a year (only in small villages they don’t)? Yes, and schools have whole stands and conduct lessons on this topic ... Again, periodically there is social advertising on TV, and quite often it happens, although it’s a very expensive pleasure.
          Quote: Stas157
          Why in Russia there are no condoms available for young people (and not only)?

          "Tumbler" - at any kiosk 10 - 15 rubles. for 3 pieces ...
          Quote: Stas157
          Why aren't there free sports sections?

          My daughter goes to an art school, we will play the saxophone, we pay 1 thousand rubles. per year, as a charity, the Sports School is absolutely free, but there are only skis, volleyball and football. Friends live in the city, there are very few free places in the sports school (i.e., like ours, but there are many more children there) ...
          Quote: Stas157
          for example, hockey.

          Have you played it before? in what? I had snow maiden skates, tied to felt boots and a stick with a feather from the kitchen board ... Now put this on your son ... or more or less dress the child - burn 60-70 thousand, so play hockey and It's not about politics or government ...
          I wrote about myself earlier that recently I have been engaged in anti-terror in my area (not in uniform), now we are making safety certificates for schools and kindergartens, I used to work in sports, because in the subject I’ll tell you that it all depends on the person who is at school supervises. The requirements are the same, but the approach is different! There are schools where everything is at a minimum, the stands are only compulsory and faded, and you go to another school, and there are war heroes and village workers and other prominent figures, everything is bright and beautiful, with soul! So everything is decided by the staff and their approach. I live in a village, we have more positive examples ...
      3. Conductor
        Conductor 17 January 2018 10: 12
        +1
        Why, Chubais Medvedev voiced the ideology - you need to fit into the market, but how to fit in there is the question, so far push your neighbor.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 17 January 2018 08: 50
      +5
      Built a lot. Made positive during this time too.
      Not all are sighted. Nineties, oddly enough, in our town many survived, as in a lethargic dream, believed in the democrats. Wait and let us live. But the Putin years came. Enterprises and collective farms began to close en masse. Yes yes exactly. Here is one example when Medvedev returned the chair to Putin.

      No one heard, neither leaving Medvedev, nor Putin, who was comfortably settled in his office. And the industrial Soviet city turned into a seedy village. That's what he was like in the Union.

      We then lived happily. And I know why I am against Putin.
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 17 January 2018 08: 59
        +3
        I was in Yaransk repeatedly ... The impression is utterly terrible. Moreover, your Kirovs call this place a cesspool. As I understand it, this is not in the sense of insulting, but such as "ass of the world." And each time, passing this town, I thought that in it live the same people of the same professions as in Moscow. Only Muscovites in the same positions have wages at times more, and housing conditions are better. The question is why ??
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 17 January 2018 09: 04
          0
          "ass of the world"
          Hard to say. Previously, there were no roads. You’ll come in and you won’t. But now there are through roads and nowhere to work.
          But we speak the language of the times of Ivan the Terrible.
          1. Dangerous
            Dangerous 17 January 2018 09: 36
            0
            I was surprised by the number of two-story wooden houses that had to be demolished for eleven years, and in them there were also shops, organizations located and people live
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 17 January 2018 09: 50
              0
              number of two-story wooden houses
              Well, of course, five-story buildings were built on the main street of Kirov, but mainly in areas on the outskirts. Falcons, Swamp, Distillery. I remember in the Falcons the house began to be built under the Soviet regime and ended under Yeltsin. So people finished building for their money, only to enter the apartments.
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 17 January 2018 09: 05
      0
      Everything is known in comparison of some 17 years with others. And then the fact becomes clear that comparing the present with those already distant, it’s just embarrassing for the present.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 January 2018 07: 10
    +5
    what ideals will be written in their heads in the process of growth and doubt
    The question is of course interesting ... Those that are being hard-pressed by the media today are oriented to the West - money, rejection of patriarchal principles, cosmopolitanism and further on the list. After reading the article, I came to the conclusion that the author dramatically changed his past position and found the main culprit in all this
    Putin’s friend of the Russian people for 18 years could not build anything new or at least repair the old
    .
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 17 January 2018 07: 24
      +3
      Putin, as president of the country, is directly responsible for everything that happens in the country.
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Today, the media is hard-pressed by Western-oriented media - money, abandonment of patriarchal principles, cosmopolitanism and further on the list
      All this is done with the filing (or silent approval) of the current authorities. The main thing is that budget cuts do not interfere.
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 17 January 2018 10: 19
        +1
        Quote: Greenwood
        Putin, as president of the country, is directly responsible for everything that happens in the country. .

        ...King!
        The king is responsible for everything! Especially - when the king is "fake"!
        -------------------------------
        What about the people? What is the demand from him, from the people ... He was called to the "veche" - he even called out the tsar of the "excise" king! Oh, that is - I threw the ballot into the ballot box ...
      2. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 17 January 2018 13: 14
        +1
        Quote: Greenwood
        Putin, as president of the country, is directly responsible for everything that happens in the country.


        When garbage is thrown out of windows - is Putin to blame ?! During the New Year holidays, he bombarded the facades of houses with explosives, Putin ?! Or maybe you need to stop "translate the arrows" and start the "perestroika from yourself ..." yourself ?!
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 17 January 2018 14: 04
          +2
          When trash is thrown out of windows
          Why, when they broke the Union, they did not blame the Soviet authorities for what, but now it turns out that 90% is a lie. As for Putin and the garbage, when he disconnected from the brain in a direct line, he forbade the removal of garbage to one landfill. Residents of nearby landfills were horrified, so all this will trample towards them.
          And then enough for children's troubles to confuse people. The claim to power is that everything is for the good of the oligarchs, foreign policy is completely a failure ...
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 17 January 2018 08: 42
      0
      past position
      And what could be the position in 2014? Only now many understand that it is not Crimea, but our Gref.
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 17 January 2018 09: 06
      +2
      Why he couldn’t - he was able to disguise a criminal group as a state.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 17 January 2018 09: 15
        +4
        If it doesn’t complicate you, I humbly ask you to explain which criminal group you managed to disguise as much and as little under the state? If you mean the oligarchs, then he once "equidistant" them from running the state and you can’t argue with that (compare the times of EBN and Putin). If you mean the "liberal" government, then here I can only support you. And in this case, for me personally, the thesis "we don’t give our own" becomes very controversial.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 17 January 2018 09: 54
          +1
          "equidistant"
          Not certainly in that way. He removed Yeltsin’s, brought his own, but he didn’t let his own sit on his neck, and in close symbiosis they enjoy the benefits of Russia. Not only did the number of billionaires increase with him, they also get richer during the sanctions.
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 17 January 2018 10: 01
            +1
            but he didn’t let his sit on his neck
            Is it good or bad?
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 17 January 2018 10: 04
              0
              Is it good or bad?

              what do you think if
              Now - they have concentrated all the power and resources in the country.
          2. Sasha_Sar
            Sasha_Sar 17 January 2018 11: 53
            0
            The number of billionaires has grown, and with them the poor. The imbalance between rich and poor is increasing. This is the answer to Rotmister’s question.
        2. Prometey
          Prometey 17 January 2018 10: 00
          0
          Quote: rotmistr60
          If you mean the oligarchs, then he once "equidistant" them from running the state and you can’t argue with that (compare the times of EBN and Putin).

          Under EBN - there were few oligarchs, now - they concentrated all the power and resources in the country.
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 17 January 2018 10: 08
            +2
            Under EBN - there were few oligarchs, now - they concentrated all the power and resources in the country.

            When were you born and where do you live? You, as I understand it, not only do not know the concept of "seven-barkivism", but have not heard! Young man, ask the elders and they will explain to you how they can.
            1. Sasha_Sar
              Sasha_Sar 17 January 2018 12: 06
              +2
              What is Semibankerschina I remember very well. The trouble with “Hodor” is that he decided to sway power and compete with P ... But he would sit quietly, wear a “denyushka in the common fund” and until now he would be happy.
  7. fif21
    fif21 17 January 2018 07: 23
    11
    The school of the USSR had discipline. Pupils outside the walls of the school drank, smoked, fought ..., smoked and fought in the toilets ... but the teachers were respected and afraid. Now teachers are afraid of schoolchildren! wassat Further will be even more fun request
  8. Strashila
    Strashila 17 January 2018 07: 25
    +2
    What to do the laws of the juvenile system in action ... d * beat is not touched.
  9. Vard
    Vard 17 January 2018 07: 25
    +2
    Acquaintances ... Mom is a woman with low social responsibility ... Dad is looking for clients ... The eldest son works as a militia ... The younger plays star wars from morning till night .... And both are excellent students at school ... All about this they know and everyone thinks that this is a normal family .... Public opinion has changed ... And what do you want after that ...
  10. Vadim851
    Vadim851 17 January 2018 07: 25
    +4
    Yes, and before such cases occurred, and now, just now nothing can be hidden, and then the negative information did not leak out too much. Crazy enough at all times. With the usual "district" fight, there were much more victims, with some minuses, the Internet and social networks have decently damaged this game.
    1. Bastinda
      Bastinda 17 January 2018 07: 46
      +2
      Yes, that's just 4 classmates did not participate in them, and at school, it would never have occurred to anyone to take money from them, for example.
      The most interesting thing is how cleverly the topic is hushed up. The case of the “repentance” of the student is bloated in all the media, but here - everything is fine, we will take measures. Perhaps because the names are not quite Russian? Such information flashed yesterday.
      1. Vadim851
        Vadim851 17 January 2018 07: 51
        +1
        4-graders are not the instigators of the fight, but casual victims. It’s easy ... they like to wave their knives, but we’ll wait for accurate information about the criminals.
        As for the case of “repentance,” the resonance is much greater in society, because the most acute topic has been touched upon.
        1. Bastinda
          Bastinda 17 January 2018 08: 31
          +3
          11-14 "random" victims?
          As for the case of “repentance,” the resonance is much greater in society, because the most acute topic has been touched upon.

          On the topic of "repentance" you can pump up patriotism, which is not bad before the election.
          Do you really think that 11-14 wounded children is a less pressing issue?
          The media create and promote topics that are needed and profitable.
          1. Vadim851
            Vadim851 17 January 2018 17: 39
            +1
            "Random" that, they did not plan to participate in this stabbing.
            Yes, I think, at the state level, the theme of the Second World War, the war that affected everyone. Especially for the background of the fact that in recent years there are many who are actively trying to revise history.
    2. groks
      groks 17 January 2018 09: 59
      +1
      With the usual "district" fight, there were much more victims

      What are the victims? Bruises and bumps? Enough of the blizzard.
      1. Vadim851
        Vadim851 17 January 2018 17: 35
        0
        And not only jaws, hands were broken, there were tremors. They fought what was needed. In our town, it was exactly like that.
        1. groks
          groks 17 January 2018 18: 04
          0
          I managed to break my arm and jaw without help. And in street fights there wasn’t more than a lantern. And to cut it. Zapadlo.
          1. Vadim851
            Vadim851 17 January 2018 18: 13
            0
            Zapadlo, I agree. Especially if the "friends" are fighting. But from another district or another village they didn’t particularly understand us, they could tear or shandarahnet with brass knuckles (they cast it from tin themselves)
            1. groks
              groks 17 January 2018 18: 26
              0
              We cast a lot of things, and the Shilovsky Forest supplied well. Oh, a dozen pistols, each area could put up easily.
              But. Then they would have surrendered this bomber, since the district police officers on such occasions arranged natural jihad. It was impossible to just play cards in the yard. And the article was serious. Therefore, in the battles of Solovka-Perkhora .... there were no seriously injured.
              PS I take this opportunity to say thank you very much to V.E., Makarov, our then district police officer.
  11. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 January 2018 07: 40
    10
    Roman, that you quickly changed shoes in flight — have you been massively banning objectionable people for such things to Putin? And how many people did you throw them for similar articles from the site? Do not remember archiving to help you! I mean, you always need to remain yourself, and not adapt to the political situation!
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 17 January 2018 08: 39
      0
      under the political conjuncture!
      Life is going. A lot is changing. And what is the conjuncture? What elections were held and Putin did not choose?
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 17 January 2018 09: 10
      +1
      I want to ask you a question - what is the current political situation in your understanding? And I apologize that I climbed in without demand.
  12. Prometey
    Prometey 17 January 2018 07: 40
    +4
    Honestly, . What ideology, what does it have to do with it? In Soviet times, we also had enough scumbags at school and even went with knives. In vocational schools there was general mess - there, after 9 classes, thugs were gathering, who could not go anywhere else. And the castrate pioneer-Komsomol organization could not do anything about it - except to get together and discuss. Two dyasitiklassnitsy - members of the Komsomol in our school are already on maternity leave - sex was not in the USSR.
    Nowhere to get away from all this. Morons have always been and will not go anywhere. That is life.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 17 January 2018 08: 37
      +3
      Morons have always been and will not go anywhere.
      The difference is that then it was an exception, and now the norm.
    2. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 17 January 2018 10: 01
      0
      I don’t know how it was at your school, but I remember for sure that we had such a frostbite going to special schools, and even to a colony for military schools. There was never a stabbing, there were fights where without them, but without criminality. But in the post-Soviet era, stabbing and extortion, and other things, just appeared.
      1. Prometey
        Prometey 17 January 2018 14: 58
        +2
        Quote: Bulrumeb
        But in the post-Soviet era, stabbing and extortion, and other things, just appeared.

        Maybe I lived in a different world. At my school in the 80s, the village shushara came to school to squeeze money. In the second shift, we didn’t go home for less than 3-4, so that we wouldn’t come home beaten. And once with a knife, a small gangster jumped on us once.
        My mother lived in a small town in the private sector. They also went home only in droves. There rape occurred every half a year. And robbed and cut - the time to idealize is also not particularly worth it.
    3. groks
      groks 17 January 2018 10: 02
      +3
      Two dyasitiklassnitsy - members of the Komsomol

      What is it? Scary mutants? They represent the Komsomol, in which, instead of a member of the ten-year student. Two!
  13. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 17 January 2018 07: 43
    +3
    You can write a lot, talk and bubble up and drool about the younger generation. It is necessary to change the constitution in general and in particular to introduce the concept of ideology and propaganda. Without this, an empty air shake.
    1. thinker
      thinker 17 January 2018 08: 47
      +5
      Or maybe just follow the long-known
      1. dSK
        dSK 17 January 2018 09: 05
        +4
        Hello Vladimir Alexandrovich!
        Quote: thinker
        just follow the long-known
        As the theologian Alexei Ilyich Osipov says: "You want your children to be angels - do not be the devils yourself." hi
      2. Bastinda
        Bastinda 17 January 2018 11: 00
        +2
        The commandments. 1,2,3 - not suitable for atheists. 8,9,10 are not suitable for politicians. 4 - doubtful, and not quite convenient. What is left?
        With mortal sins, almost as well ...
        1. dSK
          dSK 18 January 2018 00: 42
          0
          Hello Michael!
          Quote: Bastinda
          What is left?
          Matthew the holy gospel - 7:12 "So in all that you want people to do with you, so do you with them, for this is the law and the prophets." You don’t like it if you change your wife, lie, etc.
          The fourth commandment is not exactly conveyed - Work six days, and do all your work; and the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD your God. Christians have the seventh day - Sunday, in honor of the resurrection of the Son of God.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 17 January 2018 09: 12
      +2
      It is necessary to change the social system. And organized crime groups on the State of social responsibility.
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 17 January 2018 08: 06
    +1
    But as in the USA, there massacre or shooting in schools has become commonplace ..
  15. Gardamir
    Gardamir 17 January 2018 08: 35
    +3
    By the way, that's why I am against payments for a child. Thus, power depicts the appearance of caring for the people. In my school years there were more than 30 in all classes. For women gave birth, because there was stability, confidence in the future. And now only confidence in tomorrow. The bottom is there and tomorrow will be. Now about stability only on TV do you know how to turn off the TV, and stability has ended.
    In our town in the late 70s built a new bright school. And under Putin, the school was given to priests. This is how many priests must be in order to occupy an entire school?
  16. NordUral
    NordUral 17 January 2018 08: 53
    +4
    Or maybe the country, we all should think, those who are from the USSR, remember it and vote for Grudinin. Returning to the good, albeit with flaws, is not stupid. But living as we live is a crime against the future of our children and grandchildren, against the future of the country. However, the present does not provide for the future for us.
    Another 6 years of the Putin regime will finish off the country, but most importantly, they will finish us off as a people.
    The elections are coming soon, are we really going to vote for thieves and boors in power who are ready to cheat us on anyone, just to continue to rob the country. And they won’t calm down, they won’t grow wiser as the hunks and money-grubber Scrooge woke up in the Christmas fairy tale of the idealist Dickens (he recently watched a cartoon with this hero. Blissfully, but not ours, and not their case).
    Therefore, we need to lift our asses off the sofas and vote in March for Grudinin, as a single candidate, as our chance to return from the hassle of the last thirty-odd years.
    Otherwise, it will not just be worse, there will be an end to the story.
    1. Bastinda
      Bastinda 17 January 2018 09: 04
      +5
      100% of the security forces are Putin’s proteges, 95% of governors are Putin’s proteges, permanent representatives, ombie *** exchanges, etc. The conditions are set.
      If Grudinin miraculously wins the election, how much time will he be able to pursue an independent (his) policy?
      1. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n 17 January 2018 09: 32
        +1
        Quote: Bastinda
        If Grudinin miraculously wins the election, how much time will he be able to pursue an independent (his) policy?

        Here is the saying: "Not in the forehead, but in the eye!"
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 17 January 2018 09: 57
        0
        how much time can he
        cleaning again. I will only remind P.N.Grudinin if he is suddenly afraid to clean. How many people remain in their places after 91 years?
      3. CONTROL
        CONTROL 17 January 2018 09: 59
        +2
        Quote: Bastinda
        If Grudinin miraculously wins the election, how much time will he be able to pursue an independent (his) policy?

        ... and will it lead this policy?
        ... using personal "offshore" savings and shock labor detachments of migrant workers-Tajiks / Turkmens ...
        --------------------------------
        The cell "presidential candidate" in the upcoming elections with the candidacy of a person with an election program "to the right" of Putin - is empty! But the "liberals" - variants and in-variants of the "Sobchaks" and "Yeltsins" - registered up to 70 pieces like ... Nobody promises to disperse the State Duma, change the Constitution, change the leadership of the Central Bank and Sberbank, remove the liberals from the administrative apparatus of economic management .. Shake the Ministry of Culture and the Ministry of Education ...
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 17 January 2018 10: 17
          0
          this policy?
          well at least he has one offshore savings
      4. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 17 January 2018 10: 05
        +1
        100% of the security forces are Putin’s proteges, 95% of governors are Putin’s proteges, permanent representatives, ombie *** exchanges, etc. The conditions are set.

        Well, for 100% I wouldn’t get excited, for example, believe in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, not everyone is enthusiastic about GDP and others like it, and among the pensioners of the power departments there are such a minority.
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 17 January 2018 10: 22
      +1
      It is not clear what kind of state creates P.
  17. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 17 January 2018 09: 03
    +2
    If there is no state ideology. Not counting the unwritten one: "Get rich as much as you can at any cost." If the culture is aimed only at consumption and selfish expression. Education is only for the provision of services. The family is only concerned about survival. That result is logical.
    1. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 17 January 2018 09: 57
      +1
      that’s exactly what the service was made of education. And they should give the opportunity to get an education, there is no desire, you break the routine or commit offenses - twist your tails with your knee in the ass and the bulls.
    2. Northern warrior
      Northern warrior 17 January 2018 12: 41
      +1
      What is the connection between enrichment by any means and unmotivated stab stabbing? They came to rob a school? We are dealing with two scumbags who deserve a tower for their deeds. I would have understood if they had dealt with the offender, but here ... children. It was necessary for the cops to bring down these hatchets during detention, so that they no longer face them in the future. Now they will be given eight years each, and then released on parole.
      1. Prometey
        Prometey 17 January 2018 15: 00
        +1
        Quote: Northern warrior
        Now they will be given eight years each, and then released on parole.

        That you very strictly awarded them. Our “humane court” will make them take up their mind and wag their finger.
        1. Northern warrior
          Northern warrior 17 January 2018 17: 14
          +1
          Eight soldered for sure or sent to Durkee. If they cut one, they would probably get off with a three-ruble note or a five-piece. The resonance of the case is too great, and the dough you can’t cut much with them.
      2. vladimirvn
        vladimirvn 17 January 2018 16: 36
        +1
        Quote: Northern warrior
        What is the connection between enrichment by any means and unmotivated stab stabbing?
        The permissiveness of the powers that be is corrupting to everyone else. "If they can, then why can't we?" Here is the psychology of these earhooks.
  18. Pavil144
    Pavil144 17 January 2018 09: 23
    0
    I agree with the latter. The village had a large school and a kindergarten, the club worked. Now everything is closed, the children are transported to another village. Instead of a stoker they want to build a church. Where is everything going? We studied teachers respected. And now the sister works as a teacher, this tells ears are wilted.
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 17 January 2018 09: 49
      +5
      Quote: Pavil144
      I agree with the latter. The village had a large school and a kindergarten, the club worked. Now everything is closed, the children are transported to another village.

      The question should be posed to those who stopped giving birth, and not to those who:
      Instead of a stoker they want to build a church

      Do you agree at your own expense to maintain a "large school and kindergarten" when there are two / three students in groups and classes?
      Quote: Pavil144
      Where is everything going? We studied teachers respected. And now the sister works as a teacher, this tells ears are wilted.

      Also priests are to blame?
  19. CONTROL
    CONTROL 17 January 2018 09: 52
    +2
    There is no sense in their existence - young ones! Or - they don’t see him ...
    That graduated "it" school ... where next? In vocational school? So they are almost gone already; and in those that are - what can a young man get? Yeah, a profession ... And what it will give him, this unrespectable (any !!!) in our society profession? Livelihoods with which you can’t even get a family? Satisfying personal ambition? Something else - unknown to us - like the "collective unconscious"? So if you are not a drug addict - it is "unconscious", do you need it?
    ----------------------------
    You can talk a lot about this - yeah, about the loss of meaning! But one thing is clear - until the meanings of human existence in our country are changed, until the production / distribution / consumption system is changed, today it is fundamentally vicious. The social significance of the individual - should not depend on the vicious system of income distribution ... and the size of the individual's income - is determined by the decision of the community surrounding him ... Is nothing familiar? For example, in comparing the capitalist and socialist modes of production and the socio-political patterns of society - connected with these very “methods”? Although - what are there, in fact, the differences between the "methods"; work here and there! But to receive for this work - both material wealth, and social, coupled with moral satisfaction ...
    ---------------------------------------
    ... So who will win the "war of meanings"?
    The question of survival ... "Do we" re-educate them "- as their parents (which is extremely problematic in a capitalist society), or - will they" cut us "?
  20. Pavil144
    Pavil144 17 January 2018 09: 52
    +1
    And from what little to give birth, not from good living conditions
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 17 January 2018 10: 26
      +2
      Quote: Pavil144
      And from what little to give birth, not from good living conditions

      After the war, too, they lived well, and before the Revolutions, too, life was "like in oil, skated"
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 17 January 2018 10: 51
        +2
        Life was awful. But the inertia of the patriarchal values ​​of the Russian peasant community was still there (and peasants under 17 were under 90%). That’s the whole explanation.
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 17 January 2018 11: 04
          +1
          Quote: andrew42
          Life was awful. But the inertia of the patriarchal values ​​of the Russian peasant community was still

          Now there are no these values, but there are others: eat, drink, have fun, and do not give a shit about others.
        2. Bastinda
          Bastinda 17 January 2018 14: 41
          +1
          There was confidence that tomorrow would be a little better than today. After the army, you will go to college, you will work (they are already waiting), you will get an apartment, milk and other products will not rise in price, and the salary will gradually, but it will increase. It was possible to calculate the family budget for 10 years ahead.
          Who can make plans for such a period now?
  21. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 17 January 2018 09: 54
    +1
    . The tragedy in Perm suggests that everything that happened is natural, and then it will only get worse.

    absolutely right. While the school will be in a knee-elbow position, this will be so. Teachers have no rights, a student can be a moron, a juvenile delinquent, terrorize other students and teachers, etc. but you cannot expel, because you violate the rights.
  22. Rostislav
    Rostislav 17 January 2018 10: 03
    0
    Parents have the main responsibility: to feed, dress and pay for education.

    Or a clinical nerd, or a conscious enemy.
  23. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 17 January 2018 10: 08
    +4
    Dear author! I wrote and am writing, it will only get worse! How I would not like to be a messenger, bringing bad news! The authorities and Putin are not able to change the situation, because they think within the framework of liberal dogma, and hence are limited in tools. They are more important than their own organized crime group "Cooperative Lake" than the entire people of Russia and even she herself. All their gestures, issued as defending the people and Russia, are only populism in order to try to blow off the heat, and caring for the army and the Russian Guard is only the understanding that this is their protection from the people and other foreign privatizers! They have no idea or ideology, there was and cannot be in principle.
    Does it make sense to go to the polls without a choice, I think the question is rhetorical.
  24. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 17 January 2018 10: 41
    +4
    I don’t understand what the state has to do with it ... it allocates money; it builds schools; it pays salaries. Now should it raise children? can start yourself all the same? Is this what the parents of these ear-jacks did, what did they grow up? and do not need that idle talk about ideology and blah blah blah. all the good that I have in my parents instilled in me. although they worked no less than I do now. and I also try to do. and I know for sure that my children won’t do this.
  25. free
    free 17 January 2018 11: 10
    +1
    Think going to the presidential election, stop silly hoping and believing in a good king, down with thieves and traitors!
  26. Rodimtsev
    Rodimtsev 17 January 2018 11: 23
    +1
    This phrase was straightforwardly filled up with the phrase that Parents should not be responsible for anything, it’s like that, but why are they needed? There was such an idea in the Union, I read where I don’t remember that children just need to be taken from their parents and to children's homes, where the State will raise them, as he needs, and parents will pay accordingly, something like a tax, maybe a good idea? In light of recent events
  27. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 17 January 2018 11: 24
    +2
    I wrote a little higher that this should be published under the heading Opinions, not Analytics and deleted this comment ..
    Analytics is an impartial analysis, not an emotion.
  28. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 17 January 2018 11: 33
    +1
    These kids have already lost. They cannot be pounded by any forces. Will have to start from the beginning. It will not be very easy, because similar problems exist in any country where, for some reason, family life has been shaken (children no longer respect parents, old people and, as a derivative, teachers) and where there is a multiparty system. Yes, a multi-party system creates fragmentation of ideologies, and the principle of "one party, one youth" is not invented today.
  29. parma
    parma 17 January 2018 12: 27
    +2
    um .... there was enough mentally abnormal at all times ... Now there is more access to information, for example, to take maniacs and killers in the USSR, 30 years ago no one heard about them, but they were ... Yes, there are problems they are connected, as was correctly noted, primarily with the expansion of the “rights” of the children (or rather their impunity under the law and permissiveness) and the decline in respect for teachers ... In institutions this is not - in the institution (decent) there is a penalty of expulsion, which still stops yesterday's children ... And then you need to be very careful in working with the system ...
  30. nikvic46
    nikvic46 17 January 2018 12: 58
    0
    Indifference to villainy is what is scary. Strength is the top priority in the country. Think over how many guys we have.
    power sports and how much are passionate about Mental sports. This is a drop in a bucket of water. We got to the point that we entered
    a fight without rules. We believe that strong fearless people are the best defenders of the Motherland. Although one famous scout said about his partner "Yes, I’m brave for hell, I need smart" Previously, they were taken to the sambo section from the age of 16.
    Masters of Sports in boxing were afraid to fist on the street, could lose their title. I'm not talking about artistic crafts. Such guys can be counted on the fingers. I still remember, "I’ll tell your father, he will show you." There was a real commissure of society.
  31. Lars971a
    Lars971a 17 January 2018 13: 26
    +1
    Working with younger generations without ideology is training for those who have an ideology. It’s said to the point, you can no longer write, water
  32. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 17 January 2018 13: 40
    +1
    Parents? I don’t even want to look, not to say anything in their direction. It is unfair to charge all teachers and parents at school. Parents have the main responsibility: to feed, clothe and pay for education.
    And how can one not recall the flawed, totalitarian and further in the text step-by-step training of citizens in the USSR? October Pioneer Komsomolets.

    What nonsense ??? Does the family play no role in parenting? Only feed, dress and pay tuition? Can then immediately introduce juvenile justice in full and determine all the children in boarding schools? We were all October \ pioneers, without exception! But for some reason, someone grew up a normal person, someone a scum, a felon or a complete scumbag! So no ideology of the child brings up. The child forms the environment in which he is. And family is the main and fundamental part of this environment! And it doesn’t matter who works how much - before, they worked 12 hours a day without days off and holidays, and they somehow raised the children!
  33. pavelty
    pavelty 17 January 2018 13: 53
    +1
    Why are you whining? Nothing has changed ... Roman didn’t fight at school? And with knives and brass knuckles .. No need to escalate
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 17 January 2018 14: 23
      +2
      And in the USSR, they fought in schools, and tried to extort the loot from the fatty loot, but 1. The teacher was respected. 2. There were notions, boys, I transgressed them, it was terrible to hitalov, we got three of them, they entered the apartment where the boy was 10 years old, their boy’s younger brother in the district, they slightly robbed the house, then they don’t was screaming scared.
  34. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 17 January 2018 14: 21
    +1
    And in general, I don’t remember who said it, but said it cool: working with younger generations without ideology is training for those who have ideology

    good good good A smart person along the way said with experience.
  35. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 17 January 2018 14: 47
    +1
    I read all your comments and I can’t understand how the hedgehogs are .... and why the ships do not sink ???
    It seems that everything is responsible for either the school, or the king, or the whole System. We mean we sit, drink coffee and smoke nervously, observe everything that is happening next to us and also comment!
    And there were always dancing champions too. And in those days when the loaves cost 13 kopecks, they would simply be kicked out of school, and then service in the SA, and there, believe me, the brain would quickly fall into place.
    Remember, at Raikin: ,, ... Sidorov Jr., Sidorov Sr., smashed me like a goat ... ''
    One gets the impression that all of these breed eggs (I hatch from eggs)
    And that follows from this, but the following follows:
    - at Gorbachev M.S. were parents
    -E.B.N. were parents
    - Putin V.V. were parents
    True, Lukashenko AG, from his words his father died in the war, being a crumb he could not go to his father and ask, “What is good, what is bad?”
    I would also like to add that it is a pity that such an educational institution as a street is a thing of the past.
    This is my personal opinion and all the characters are fictitious, but for coincidence I ask sorry.
  36. q75agent
    q75agent 17 January 2018 18: 46
    0
    Quote: Northern warrior
    It was necessary for the cops to bring down these hatchets during detention so that they no longer face them in the future

    in the 90s I would still ride, and now the cops (I don’t take cabinet ones) and whoever works on the ground is afraid of everything
  37. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 17 January 2018 22: 10
    0
    Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
    Yesterday in the news I read which cadets of the Ulyanovsk flying school shot a clip, there were no censorship words

    And why be surprised if the rainbow "liberalism" stubbornly breathed in to us by the West through various pi ***** s mowing down as artists, creeps into Russia from all sides and already at the Bolshoi Theater - this world Temple of Art for state funds is put up a vulgar, which applauds the elite mired in glamor along with the "advanced" representatives of the power elite, including Peskov !!!
  38. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 17 January 2018 22: 48
    0
    The idea of ​​a psychopath will not help.
  39. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 19 January 2018 00: 49
    0
    What articles can you not find here, here’s another fool teaches me to live offended the entire population of the country, because now, schoolchildren, parents and teachers are sitting in front of the monitors .... but this “benefactor" offers us to build socialism in a separate country again, apparently this is the only solution from all the troubles of the peoples of the Russian Federation ...
    I think this article is part of the election campaign of the Communist Party .... we are waiting for articles from other candidates ...
  40. klev72
    klev72 19 January 2018 09: 17
    0
    The solution of the country's problems will begin from the moment the Constitution of the Russian Federation is changed, as it does not meet the realities of the country's current life inside and on the world stage. All other recipes, including those from other diseases of society, are closed on the basic law of the country. Baghdasaryan’s analysis of this law is very indicative - “The Constitution of the Russian Federation as the Constitution of a defeated state” - http://rusrand.ru/docconf/konstitutsija-rf-kak-ko
    nstitutsija-pobezhdennogo-gosudarstva. The need for change over time only grows and miss the opportunity to give direction to the development of society will not just be a mistake for the new term of presidency of our leader. This step, the adoption of the new Constitution, is the main thing that the best minds of the country should be directed at, as long as they exist and the authorities listen to them, because the generation of GDP will be replaced and already rolled up.
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 19 January 2018 23: 27
      0
      klev72 The solution of the country's problems will begin from the moment the Constitution of the Russian Federation is changed, as it does not meet the realities of the country's current life inside and on the world stage.

      Unlike the Armenian historian (an ungrateful profession in the Russian Federation) who has nothing to do with International Law and the Constitutional Law of the Russian Federation, the Constitution of the Russian Federation is quite suitable for me ....
      Baghdasaryan’s analysis of this law is very indicative - “The Constitution of the Russian Federation as the Constitution of a defeated state” - http://rusrand.ru/docconf/konstitutsija-rf-kak-ko
      nstitutsija-pobezhdennogo-gosudarstva.

      There is no analysis there at all, the stuffing of verbal garbage, there is no semantic load from the word AT ALL, I looked at his articles posted on the Internet (not only about the Constitution of the Russian Federation), it’s clear that the person was hospitalized (and it’s time for him to expand the Belomor channel manually on 5 meters in each direction) or writes all sorts of disgusting about the Russian Federation for money, although in the Russian Federation there are people willing to do this for free too ....
  41. Uma palata
    Uma palata 20 January 2018 04: 21
    0
    I repeat everywhere and many times: there is no ideology, there is no future. From our Fundamental Law, enemies, namely enemies, the most important has been removed. They forbade us to have an ideology. There is no direction where to go, so we dutifully go where the enemies sent ... in three letters.
    Ideology is not a panacea, not a guarantee that tomorrow among young people everything will be clear in their heads. No. Ideology is the basis for laws. Laws are adopted for the purpose.
    And here we have a span, the laws of our country are secondary, the priority is foreign laws.
    In this case, we should specifically talk about the complete lack of work with youth. Attempts to replace ideology with religion and stupid "associations" are worthless in their results. Children are brought up by the Internet, and there, excuse me, there are more enemies than there were on Kursk.
    What to do? change the constitution. To start. Then the Codes, in accordance with the provisions of the Basic Law.
    And then hard, but by law, clean the Power.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 04: 25
      +5
      Quote: Uma Palata
      From our Fundamental Law, enemies, namely enemies, the most important has been removed. They forbade us to have an ideology.

      Show me a place in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, where "it is forbidden to have an ideology."
      You’ll get tired, arekamshi ... but anyway - show me, you have to answer for the bazaar yes
      Quote: Uma Palata
      What to do? change the constitution. To start. Then the Codes, in accordance with the provisions of the Basic Law. And then hard, but by law, clean the Power

      You should clean your brains first. And train the materiel.
      Changers, damn it ... sofa cleaners negative
      1. MOSKVITYANIN
        MOSKVITYANIN 20 January 2018 14: 32
        +1

        Golovan Jack
        Quote: Uma Palata
        From our Fundamental Law, enemies, namely enemies, the most important has been removed. They forbade us to have an ideology.
        Show me a place in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, where "it is forbidden to have an ideology."
        You’ll get tired, arekamshi ... but anyway - show, yes, you must answer for the bazaar

        Yes, he is a troll ....
        In Russian federation ideological diversity recognized.
        No ideology cannot be established as state or mandatory.

        parts 1-2 Art. 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, gee ....
  42. gm9019
    gm9019 20 January 2018 13: 34
    0
    This is capitalism, and no radical changes can be done here. Ideology - a superstructure serves this very basis (only pebbles do not throw big at me please!)). The basis will change - the superstructure will also change. And all these arguments on the topic "what needs to be done to live well," they will remain a blatant voice, no more.

    The Internet, without any bloodshed, did what no dictator succeeded in - removed a significant part of the world's population from real life. Just supplied fun, constantly changing pictures and all. Hypnotized children got used to them very quickly. Smart and tough puppeteers from the real world constantly come up with new ones ... And only the strongest and not subject to hypnosis remain on the surface. Thus, the competitive environment becomes less competitive - those who live on the Internet cannot get out of there, and the few remaining become both more spacious and free. (with)
  43. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 20 January 2018 17: 42
    +1
    while students despise teachers, and parents directly tell teachers, you provide services here, you are just maintenance staff !!! When you catch a student with nasvaem, you call your parents in the director’s office, and the school is cadet. and the parent, instead of Schaub flogging his child, begins to scream in hysteria that his son is golden, and this school put him on the matter when the 8th grader of the director of the cadet school puts a three-story mat on his face in the whole corridor and leaves, and mom says it’s you teach so badly. until the parents take up there will be no order in the schools. In our time, the school administrators strictly watched the parents, and we were strictly raised by the boys in the area, and the young loafers were snot !!!
  44. Alexey Antonov
    Alexey Antonov 20 January 2018 20: 05
    +2
    Yes, yes, "it will only get worse!" All gone Putin
    How tired of you all are!