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Erdogan threatened to destroy the "border security forces" created by the US coalition in Syria

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan threatened to destroy the “border security forces” created by the US in Syria because they threaten Turkish national security.


Erdogan threatened to destroy the "border security forces" created by the US coalition in Syria


Now America near our borders is creating a terrorist army that threatens the security of Turkey. Our task is to strangle this army until it was born. If the US wants to cooperate with these wild creatures, that's their business. But we will not allow it
- quotes RIA News Erdogan.

In addition, as reported by Anadolu, Erdogan announced the completion of preparations for a new anti-terrorist operation in Syria.

An operation in Afrin bordering with Turkey can begin at any time.
- Erdogan said.

On the eve it became known that the coalition is creating in Syria a “border security force” to protect the zone under its control. The goal is to prepare about thirty thousand people, while 15 thousand will be from the "Syrian Democratic Forces" (VTS).

Ankara, in turn, accused Washington of creating a "terrorist army" in Syria.
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  1. gukoyan
    gukoyan 15 January 2018 15: 22
    10
    Let’s see what happens next, everyone can say, to make units ...
    1. Logall
      Logall 15 January 2018 15: 28
      16
      Well, Duc and Erdogan alone, in its copy ... Already It is not clear what to expect from it.
      1. Going
        Going 15 January 2018 15: 41
        +6
        Alexander, good afternoon! hi there, unfortunately, no one knows what will happen next.
        1. MoJloT
          MoJloT 15 January 2018 15: 56
          +4
          12) The Sixth Angel poured his cup into the great river Euphrates: and the water dried in it, so that the kings would be ready to go from the rising of the sun.
          18) And there were lightnings, thunders and voices, and there was a great earthquake, which has not happened since people on earth. Such an earthquake! So great!
          19) And the great city fell into three parts, and the pagan cities fell, and the great Babylon was remembered before God, to give him a cup of wine of the fury of His wrath.
          New Testament. Apocalypse ch. sixteen.
          1. hrych
            hrych 15 January 2018 17: 01
            +5
            Paisius Svyatorets (whom the Greeks consider a prophet) became famous for his interpretation of the prophecies of Cosmas of Aetolia and the Apocalypse. This text, decrypts, as a crossing over the Euphrates, drained by the dam of the 200 millionth Chinese army. And the collapse of the city ... Istanbul in three parts decrypts how a third of the Turks will fall, a third will be expelled, a third will accept Christianity.
            1. MoJloT
              MoJloT 15 January 2018 17: 03
              +4
              Thank you very interesting, but this small passage cited specifically who will be interested in reading and spreading everything here is stupid.
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 15 January 2018 21: 33
                +2
                The same case when you do not know what to say.
                The United States, by definition, cannot do anything good. But Turkey seems to be an ally of the United States, and did good for Russia only during the time of Attaturk. The fact that the United States created ISIS, and now after its defeat creates a replacement for it, is understandable. But you do not expect such criticism from Erdogan.
                request
            2. dzvero
              dzvero 15 January 2018 17: 39
              +2
              Or maybe about Jerusalem (also a great city)? How is Berlin at one time? That scream will be from such a decryption smile
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 15 January 2018 19: 23
                +3
                The joke is that one NATO country is ready to oppose another NATO country. laughing
                1. dzvero
                  dzvero 15 January 2018 19: 28
                  +3
                  And the joke is that in the NATO charter there is no direct ban on war between members, but only a call to discuss the problem smile
                2. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 15 January 2018 21: 45
                  +2
                  Quote: Kasym
                  The joke is that one NATO country is ready to oppose another NATO country.
                  This is not a joke. This will be the beginning of the collapse of the NATO bloc))) The mattress has two options - to swallow the grudge of defeat and get out of Syria, or to squeeze your interest in Syria with the creation of an independent Kurdistan, but be prepared for the collapse of your brainchild - the NATO bloc. There is of course the third option - to remove Erdogan and put his governor in Turkey, but Erdogan for some time has ceased to trust the mattresses and strengthened his guard. So to speak - a shot sparrow, more cunning than a raven.
                3. keeper03
                  keeper03 15 January 2018 23: 08
                  +1
                  All this NATA only on paper NATA! wassat
                4. Grits
                  Grits 16 January 2018 01: 33
                  +1
                  Erdogan stupidly bends his line. The fact is that all these pro-American forces are created not in Afrin, but behind the Euphrates. But Erdogash, like a bull, stubbornly wants to fight in Afrin, and spit on him that there are no newly created American structures
        2. Hammerlock
          Hammerlock 16 January 2018 03: 47
          0
          Quote: Going
          Alexander, good afternoon! hi there, unfortunately, no one knows what will happen next.

          and he himself doesn’t know
      2. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 15 January 2018 16: 22
        +2
        It may not be clear, but the message is clear - I do not like it, I have a crowd of wild people on the border - I will smother!
        Something like that with the United States and its upbringers and should be conducted. Once a warning is voiced and ... burn with a hot iron. Moreover, everything happens on the territory of an independent state and the USA has nothing to do there and no one called them.
        Shut up and swallow.
        1. Going
          Going 15 January 2018 16: 27
          +5
          Yes, everything seems to be correct, only Erdogan has nothing to do in Syria.
          1. Yuyuka
            Yuyuka 15 January 2018 17: 46
            +3
            Quote: Going
            Yes, everything seems to be correct, only Erdogan has nothing to do in Syria.


            he is currently the most negotiable, unlike the Americans. Americans do not have a topic in the East! If they leave, Russia will be able to put everyone at the negotiating table. None of the main players - Turkey, Iran - needs a war there. Moreover, the creation of Kurdistan by them has a bone in their throat, so for them the main thing today is to strangle all enemies that threaten the stability of their regimes. Well, then ... The East is a delicate matter ... Everyone will need to rest, look around, and continue to arm themselves, looking at their neighbor repeat
            1. Going
              Going 15 January 2018 18: 09
              +3
              Yes, if the United States leaves there everyone will sit at the negotiating table, and they will not create Kurdistan, it can only autonomy, but not in Turkey.
          2. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 15 January 2018 17: 47
            +3
            Quote: Going
            ... only Erdogan has nothing to do in Syria.

            This territory was Turkish only a hundred years ago. This is their border at the moment. Mattresses create forces that are a real threat to the territorial integrity of Turkey. Assad smokes bamboo and can not interfere with this process. What remains for the Turks to do?
            But the mattresses there are definitely superfluous.
            1. Going
              Going 15 January 2018 18: 07
              +4
              One hundred years ago, Poland was part of Russia and not only, what now will we cut in a new way? Dangerous is a process.
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 15 January 2018 18: 27
          0
          If only we could! AND?
          1. Galaktionych
            Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 46
            +1
            Quote: Kent0001
            If only we could! AND?

            Us? No, the Kremlin leprechaun will not pull. Here, excuse me, eggs are needed.
      3. hrych
        hrych 15 January 2018 16: 55
        +5
        Quote: Logall
        Already it is not clear what to expect from him.

        Oddly enough it sounds, but he is an open and predictable person, at least after the assassination attempt. His emotional statements are a manifestation of genuine emotions and they are predictable. If Americans and Kurds make such provocations, then what kind of reaction do they expect. GDP is unpredictable, because it’s not conducted on provocation and does not show emotions, but one way or another, his rule will be recognized as the Golden Age of Russia (not an electoral libel, but my opinion laughing )
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 15 January 2018 17: 25
          +5
          Quote: hrych
          GDP is unpredictable, because it’s not conducted on provocation and does not show emotions, but one way or another, his rule will be recognized as the Golden Age of Russia (not an electoral libel, but my opinion laughing )

          Yeah, especially participating in the 2018 Winter Olympics. Although for the oligarchs of the Russian Federation, his rule can and will be a golden age, as the time of Catherine 2 for the nobles.
          1. Yuyuka
            Yuyuka 15 January 2018 17: 52
            +2
            Quote: zoolu350
            Quote: hrych
            GDP is unpredictable, because it’s not conducted on provocation and does not show emotions, but one way or another, his rule will be recognized as the Golden Age of Russia (not an electoral libel, but my opinion laughing )

            Yeah, especially participating in the 2018 Winter Olympics. Although for the oligarchs of the Russian Federation, his rule can and will be a golden age, as the time of Catherine 2 for the nobles.


            But who remembers the victims there decades later ?? They look at what country remained after the rule of the tsar, sultan, general secretary, president ... But ordinary people never lived happily ... Here it is calm - yes, there were periods. But he had to plow at all times ... hi
            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 15 January 2018 17: 59
              +1
              Quote: zoolu350
              Yeah, especially participating in the 2018 Winter Olympics.

              For hammer a bolt to the Olympics.
              What are you crying like a woman. Many Olympic champions do you remember? Also an event for me!
              Games in Sochi mattered to us. 2018 World Cup matters. Since people from other countries come to these events, and most importantly, the broadcast is being watched by billions !!! This is an advertisement of our country with you, a demonstration of all these billions of greatness of our country.

              And games in Korea are a problem for Koreans.
              1. zoolu350
                zoolu350 15 January 2018 18: 25
                +3
                That is, the fact that some Russian-speaking athletes will participate in robes and under the rags that the owners of the Fed, IOC and WADA have installed is the problem of the Koreans, is not the "advertisement" of the country and these broadcasts will not be watched by billions, which will see the "greatness" of the Russian Federation?
                1. Galaktionych
                  Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 45
                  +2
                  Quote: zoolu350
                  That is, the fact that some Russian-speaking athletes will participate in robes and under the rags that the owners of the Fed, IOC and WADA have installed is the problem of the Koreans, is not the "advertisement" of the country and these broadcasts will not be watched by billions, which will see the "greatness" of the Russian Federation?

                  You still forgot to mention that the IOC forced Russia to pay 15 million euros to pay for a doping investigation, which resulted in us being deprived of the right to participate in the winter Olympics.
              2. Yuyuka
                Yuyuka 16 January 2018 11: 45
                +1
                Quote: Vladimir16
                Quote: zoolu350
                Yeah, especially participating in the 2018 Winter Olympics.

                For hammer a bolt to the Olympics.
                What are you crying like a woman. Many Olympic champions do you remember? Also an event for me!
                Games in Sochi mattered to us. 2018 World Cup matters. Since people from other countries come to these events, and most importantly, the broadcast is being watched by billions !!! This is an advertisement of our country with you, a demonstration of all these billions of greatness of our country.

                And games in Korea are a problem for Koreans.


                belay I'm finally not about the Olympics, but about the country that any ruler leaves behind! And he always said that it is better to send the IOC and not to take part - they will incur more losses and they will ask ... North Korea, on what knives from SaShuA - nothing, they go and with their flag!
            2. zoolu350
              zoolu350 15 January 2018 18: 26
              +2
              And what country will remain (if it remains) after the rule of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation?
              1. Yuyuka
                Yuyuka 16 January 2018 11: 54
                0
                Quote: zoolu350
                And what country will remain (if it remains) after the rule of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation?


                exactly or approximately to you? belay I can only Russian Mighty Swearing - request although now it can be described as sooo restrained optimism - after all, the army has changed? then we can defend ourselves! but with the economy ... request (see translation above)
          2. Kent0001
            Kent0001 15 January 2018 18: 28
            +1
            A cool comparison and probably true ...
      4. Galaktionych
        Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 48
        +1
        Quote: Logall
        Well, Duc and Erdogan alone, in its copy ... Already It is not clear what to expect from it.

        Yes, this is not Russian. You Know Who, who can only mumble and express concern ...
    2. Chertt
      Chertt 15 January 2018 15: 32
      12
      Quote: gukoyan
      in here to make units ...

      As the saying goes "do not scare away" .. The armed, even limited, conflict between the two (supposedly) strongest NATO armies is just a song for Russia
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 15 January 2018 15: 36
        +2
        Sultan-balabol ... such a position laughing
        1. Galaktionych
          Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 42
          +2
          Quote: marlin1203
          Sultan-balabol ... such a position laughing

          Well, at least this “balabol” was not afraid to openly send Turkish troops to Syria to protect the Turkomans, taking the opinion of the Syrian leadership and the international community.
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ 15 January 2018 15: 40
        +2
        What time is one strongest army bigger / smaller than the other?
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 15 January 2018 16: 02
          0
          Quote: NEOZ
          What time is one strongest army bigger / smaller than the other?

          Do you think that the armies of the USA and Turkey, as in a computer game, will converge on the same field and arrange rubilovo wink
          The conflict, if it is, will happen "by proxy", as the United States loves, for which they are preparing
          “Border security forces”
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 15 January 2018 16: 48
            0
            Armed, even limited, conflict between two (allegedly) NATO’s strongest armies
          2. dzvero
            dzvero 15 January 2018 17: 44
            0
            “border security forces” without American support, the Turks will sweep away at a time. Most likely there will be no direct collision, but "what the hell is not joking" wink
            1. Morozyaka
              Morozyaka 15 January 2018 18: 49
              +1
              Well, about the "time" I would not rush like that. During the “shield of Efrat,” the Turks had significant losses, but not much success, to put it mildly
              1. dzvero
                dzvero 15 January 2018 19: 02
                0
                The Shield of Euphrates was a local operation and - yes, the Turks did not act very well. Only I doubt that the "border security forces" (well, of course) will survive during a major offensive. Although, in a war, anything can be ...
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 15 January 2018 15: 38
      0
      Erdogan also has nothing to do in Syria, but he again sent tanks there.
    4. svp67
      svp67 15 January 2018 15: 38
      11
      Quote: gukoyan
      Let’s see what happens next, everyone can say, to make units ...

      Personally, I stock up on chips and popcorn and put it on ERDOGAN, he doesn’t need to shoot there, it’s enough to “threaten” to threaten ... and the United States may back down.
      1. Going
        Going 15 January 2018 15: 47
        +7
        The United States thought and understood that if they cry out and everyone will obey, they don’t know what to do otherwise, I also put Erdogan on. yes
        1. svp67
          svp67 15 January 2018 15: 49
          +5
          Quote: Going
          USA thought and understood

          Too far the United States has climbed from home, and Erdogan, he is behind the nearest mountain
          1. Going
            Going 15 January 2018 15: 50
            +5
            Too far USA climbed from home


            And spread all over the world.
            1. svp67
              svp67 15 January 2018 15: 51
              +4
              Quote: Going
              And spread all over the world.

              And besides, VERY stretched and vulnerable communications have ...
              1. Going
                Going 15 January 2018 15: 53
                +5
                And sometimes they depend on those who are threatened, in general, they play too much.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 15 January 2018 15: 57
                  +2
                  Quote: Going
                  generally played up.

                  Not yet, but VERY close to this
                  1. Going
                    Going 15 January 2018 16: 09
                    +6
                    They need to be helped to find a way out while preserving the faces of their faces; otherwise they can cause troubles.
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 15 January 2018 16: 20
                      +3
                      Quote: Going
                      They need to be helped to find a way out while preserving the faces of their faces; otherwise they can cause troubles.

                      If you allow them to "save face", then they will not stop. It is necessary that the completely "screwed up" would leave, as after Vietnam.
                    2. demo
                      demo 15 January 2018 16: 52
                      +2
                      No need to help them break the deadlock. It is necessary to help further break into a dead end. So that there is only one way out - the slaughter. Between Turks and Amers. And let Greece connect with Bulgaria.
                      This is a cool result.
                      1. Going
                        Going 15 January 2018 16: 57
                        +6
                        Do you think it will pass us by, drawn in and will not seem to anyone.
          2. BVS
            BVS 15 January 2018 15: 51
            +1
            And what did the US stop distances and oceans?
            1. svp67
              svp67 15 January 2018 15: 52
              +2
              Quote: bvs
              And what did the US stop distances and oceans?

              Sometimes even very ... get off to France, how many years were put off ...
              1. BVS
                BVS 15 January 2018 16: 14
                +2
                And still landed in France and in Italy. And most likely they put off that they were in no hurry. That is, they landed when they thought it necessary - however, a strategy.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 15 January 2018 16: 21
                  +3
                  Quote: bvs
                  And most likely they put off that they were in no hurry.

                  No, they calculated the losses and benefits. When the latter became higher, then they moved. But you can leave the balance for them "negative"
                  1. BVS
                    BVS 15 January 2018 16: 27
                    +1
                    In order to leave the balance “negative” for them, you need to have a larger military budget than theirs. And today, their military budget is multiple above all. Scaring them with all sorts of “alternative” threats is unproductive, because force crushes anyway - sooner or later.
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 15 January 2018 16: 29
                      +4
                      Quote: bvs
                      In order to leave the balance “negative” for them, you need to have a larger military budget than theirs.

                      What is good about military affairs is that this rule does not always work and there is a lot of evidence for this.
                      1. Going
                        Going 15 January 2018 16: 58
                        +3
                        “They fight not by numbers, but by skill” and there are many such examples.
                      2. Yuyuka
                        Yuyuka 15 January 2018 17: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: svp67
                        Quote: bvs
                        In order to leave the balance “negative” for them, you need to have a larger military budget than theirs.

                        What is good about military affairs is that this rule does not always work and there is a lot of evidence for this.


                        This rule, I would say, does not work at all. Sometimes, just the presence and demonstration of some military achievements can keep an adversary from aggression
            2. Esoteric
              Esoteric 15 January 2018 16: 59
              0
              Quote: bvs
              And what did the US stop distances and oceans?

              They were always stopped by the opportunity to get a snot, "the inevitability of a retaliatory strike on the territory of the United States. This was shown by a dive over destroyers in the Black Sea, and joint meetings with our aircraft in the sky ... and even the" impudent response "of the DPRK. Russia should make a statement, that the videoconferencing and CAA will not stand aside ...
        2. zoolu350
          zoolu350 15 January 2018 17: 31
          +2
          I also put on Erdogan. On the Kurdish issue, he will calmly agree with Iran, Iraq and Assad.
      2. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 15 January 2018 16: 24
        0
        So let it threaten. They will deal with him a bit later.
    5. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 15 January 2018 15: 59
      0
      1. It's like in the company of hooligans .. before a fight .. A little one breaks ahead and starts. Knowing that big boys are behind him around the corner .. They will decide the outcome of the fight.
      Just who are these big boys ??
      2. Or, I learned from Kim Jong-un .. too ostentatious lessons of eloquence and their results were indicative
    6. Rusland
      Rusland 15 January 2018 18: 43
      +8
      It may well be that for the Turks, that for the Americans it is a consumable.
    7. karish
      karish 15 January 2018 20: 06
      +3
      Quote: gukoyan
      Let’s see what happens next, everyone can say, to make units ...

      Erdogan sniffs every day.
      A dog (and this is not a metaphor for Erdogan) that barks does not bite.
      request
      So that all this is the efforts of the petty sultan who imagines himself to be the center of the world and unsuccessfully trying to convince others of this.
      so to speak from the last laughing
      Erdogan: “If the USA recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, we will terminate diplomatic relations with Israel”

      so how, we’re all waiting, we’re waiting request
      laughing laughing
  2. MoJloT
    MoJloT 15 January 2018 15: 23
    +4
    Erdogan threatens to destroy created by the US coalition

    So the Turks also seem to be in a coalition, but in any case, the more the Turkish army does, the less questions there are for the SAA.
    1. Ased
      Ased 15 January 2018 17: 04
      0
      How do you like this scenario: The Turks will be fired from NATO, and so that they don’t like the pretenders like Libya ...
      1. Ased
        Ased 15 January 2018 17: 05
        0
        They already got the whole EU.
      2. Seal
        Seal 15 January 2018 17: 24
        +3
        Dismissed from NATA - urgently we will accept in the CSTO.
  3. Now we are free
    Now we are free 15 January 2018 15: 24
    +3
    Rajepchik, dear, when will you punish two-faced Americans for their support of the “Kurds” (and, accordingly) stoking for the collapse of Turkey? ..
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 39
      +4
      Quote: Now we are free
      Rajepchik, dear, when will you punish two-faced Americans for their support of the “Kurds” (and, accordingly) stoking for the collapse of Turkey? ..

      For now, Rejepchik has become kindred to you ... But it is his fault in the destruction of the Russian aircraft.

      This is what happens when the leader of a relatively small Turkey behaves in the international arena more worthy of the nanogenious Multi-Walker ...
      1. parathyron
        parathyron 15 January 2018 20: 43
        +2
        We got these troll-like whiners. Why pay for the trolls if their free trynd without end. Erdogan is good, then bad, but certainly better than a multi-path driver. Traitors "well-meaning" fucking. The whole world begins to respect our president, and in every comment they consider it their duty to ride on it. Got sick
  4. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 15 January 2018 15: 26
    +2
    Words are not a boy, but a husband ... Drive them sc. a rag from there, Taif.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 15 January 2018 15: 39
      +6
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      Words are not a boy, but a husband ... Drive them sc. a rag from there, Taif.

      For many centuries, the Port, the Ottoman Empire, Turkey has never been a friend of Russia. Only a constant ENEMY. So there is no need to hope for any changes.
  5. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 15 January 2018 15: 27
    +6
    In this case, it is necessary to support the Turkish not quite comrades
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 15 January 2018 17: 01
      +2
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      In this case, it is necessary to support the Turkish not quite comrades

      The enemy of my enemy is my friend ... yes
  6. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 15 January 2018 15: 29
    +8
    Well, that’s it! now Erdogan will not be a democratic bloody tyrant who "must leave"! : D
  7. Lexus
    Lexus 15 January 2018 15: 30
    +2
    Erdogan threatened to destroy the "border security forces" created by the US coalition in Syria

    It may well.
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 36
      0
      Quote: lexus
      Erdogan threatened to destroy the "border security forces" created by the US coalition in Syria

      It may well.

      That's just the point that can. And there won’t be any “Minsk agreements”.
  8. izya top
    izya top 15 January 2018 15: 32
    +2
    Edik, so only an un-rocketman can go with a dodik. And you didn’t go out with a snout - Uncle Volodya has doubt in you
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 15 January 2018 15: 37
      +6
      Izzy hi -You can be entrusted with the leadership of the united Korea! good But there is no faith in Turk at all - it will throw us easily, as soon as he gets a little bit of heat! !! sad
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic 15 January 2018 15: 35
    +1
    Well, kill him, they didn’t pull the tongue, he said, do it! Or doesn’t it go blah blah blah? fool
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 35
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Well, kill him, they didn’t pull the tongue, he said, do it! Or doesn’t it go blah blah blah? fool

      Erdogan has repeatedly argued that his words do not diverge from deeds. He decided to protect the Syrian Turkoman - he openly sent troops to Syria, not afraid of the reaction of the "partners". The Americans tried to put pressure on him, staged a rebellion - threw American bases out of the country.
  10. Simon
    Simon 15 January 2018 15: 37
    +7
    Well, here, Ankara intervenes in the war with the states. I think that it is necessary to support the Turks in this matter and it would be good if they raised their military-industrial complex with weapons. wink
    1. ventel
      ventel 15 January 2018 16: 59
      +3
      Erdogan probably forgot the story of what happened to the Ottoman Empire. But they can once again divide.
  11. Egorovich
    Egorovich 15 January 2018 15: 40
    +4
    The reaction of Turkey to this mattress show off is quite expected. Syria and Iraq will react in exactly the same way. The Kurds will most likely run to Russia and agree.
    1. Going
      Going 15 January 2018 15: 48
      +3
      As far as I know, negotiations are ongoing and very intense.
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 15 January 2018 15: 54
        +4
        They are coming, but not with all the Kurds, but only with a small part. They have their own graters there, and even the Arabs are outraged by the Kurds. It is unlikely to do without Russia.
  12. flicker
    flicker 15 January 2018 15: 42
    +3
    For the Pentagon, such statements by Erdogan are just an opportunity to tame the Kurds even more.
  13. Simon
    Simon 15 January 2018 15: 43
    +1
    Quote: MoJloT
    Erdogan threatens to destroy created by the US coalition

    So the Turks also seem to be in a coalition, but in any case, the more the Turkish army does, the less questions there are for the SAA.

    Friends! I thought here, so it turns out the NATO war! recourse The war between NATO members ?! I wonder what will happen? request what I guess you need to bet wink
    1. iaroslav.mudryi
      iaroslav.mudryi 15 January 2018 17: 16
      +3
      Quote: Simon
      Friends! I thought here, so it turns out the NATO war! recourse The war between NATO members ?! I wonder what will happen? request what I guess you need to bet wink

      Well, nothing new, NATO countries have already fought with each other. The summer of the 1974 of the year, the Republic of Cyprus, the 4 of the NATO countries: Greece and Turkey led direct clashes, while the United States and Great Britain participated indirectly, for short ".... US aircraft intercepted Greek planes that flew towards the conflict."
      "...... Great Britain has pledged to help citizens of other European countries, as well as the Americans, in evacuating from the island ....." The British still have 2 military bases in Cyprus: in Akrotiri near Limassol (air base) and Dekelia near Larnaca, as well as radars on Mount Olympus in Troodos. The result of Operation Atilla is known - the island is divided, 200tys. Greek Cypriot refugees, the abandoned ghost town of Famagusta (60tys.), near 7tys. dead and missing civilians and so on.
      Losses of the armed forces:
      Greek Cypriots: 309 dead, 909 missing, 1141 wounded. 12 tanks, 7 armored personnel carriers, 47 guns (mostly abandoned).
      Greece: 88 dead, 83 missing, 148 injured.
      Turkish Cypriots: 70 dead,? missing? injured.
      Turkey: 498 dead, 1200 injured. 26 tanks, 4 armored personnel carriers, 24 guns, 1 destroyer.
      If in detail, then here (by the way, the Soviet Navy could not stand aside in that conflict):
      http://alerozin.narod.ru/cypr.htm
      https://www.kiprinform.com/stories_of_cyprus/kipr
      -1974-god-istoriya-voennogo-konflikta /
      https://sassik.livejournal.com/247069.html (много фото)
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Турецкое_вторжение_
      on_ Cyprus
      1. Seal
        Seal 15 January 2018 17: 46
        +3
        It’s more complicated. Formally, Greece, which was under the leadership of the so-called "black colonels" at that time, suspended its membership in NATO (or in its military organization, remaining political - I don’t remember, but to look for laziness).
        And it should be borne in mind that some of the Greeks fought not only with the Turks, but also among themselves. Especially at the beginning, when the Turks had not yet begun to land. Some Greek Cypriots fell in battles with the Greek Greeks, and some Greek Greeks, respectively, fell in battles with the Greek Cypriots. Let me remind you that the Greek troops of the "black colonels" landed on the island landed on the island before the Turks and supported the Cypriot junta, which overthrew the legal head of Cyprus, President Archbishop Makarios III and headed for the island to become part of Greece.
        But Makarios managed to escape, and the units loyal to him resisted both the putschists and the Greek troops who came to their aid.
        And then the Turks began to land on the island.
        1. iaroslav.mudryi
          iaroslav.mudryi 15 January 2018 18: 42
          +1
          That's right, colleague. In my previous post, I emphasized the fait accompli of the direct clash of NATO countries, which was in history, regardless of what reasons led to this.
          (I’ll repeat the link http://alerozin.narod.ru/cypr.htm), where it is detailed on the premises, the coup of the "black colonels" in Greece and the coup in Cyprus (EOKA and EOKA-2 here: https: //ru.wikipedia .org / wiki / EOKA). And Makarios III, still in Cyprus a very revered figure, near his tomb on Mount Troni next to the famous Kykkos Monastery - post No. 1 under the guard of the Cypriot Guard.
    2. Yuriy_999
      Yuriy_999 15 January 2018 18: 28
      0
      Herring Wars - Great Britain versus Iceland.
      1. Galaktionych
        Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 30
        +1
        Quote: Yuri_999
        Herring Wars - Great Britain versus Iceland.

        And the famous "Tomato War" of Putin with Erdogan there too ...
  14. Galleon
    Galleon 15 January 2018 16: 03
    +4
    Rejepchik, all your nonsense to help you: chop them in dogs, destroy them in Khuzars, well done!
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 27
      +3
      Quote: Galleon
      Rejepchik, all your nonsense to help you: chop them in dogs, destroy them in Khuzars, well done!

      And no matter how much you want it, Erdogan has eggs. And he repeatedly proved that he was ready to firmly defend the interests of his country. This is not a multi-guide ...
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 January 2018 16: 06
    0
    I would look with interest ...
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 January 2018 16: 07
    +3
    Erdogan himself will not die ...
  17. Streletskos
    Streletskos 15 January 2018 16: 11
    15
    So is he Turkish or NATO?
    They will lower Erdogan, not otherwise
  18. Baloo
    Baloo 15 January 2018 17: 00
    +4
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan threatened to destroy the “border security forces” created by the US in Syria because they threaten Turkish national security.

    He’s lying. yes He will not destroy anyone there. Quietly move and that's it. He is not this cool North Korean kid, I just can’t remember the name. Here he gave the Americans an asshole fellow made himself afraid and reckon with himself drinks .
    And what a clever move with the Olympics, in which it will turn out to participate, as it turns out, is only an ensemble of songs and dances. laughing
    And Erdogan will continue to looser for a long time, the motive is clear:
  19. Serving the Fatherland
    Serving the Fatherland 15 January 2018 17: 08
    +2
    Turkey is no longer expected in the EU ... This is a fact! With such statements, it’s not far to reach the expulsion from NATO ... How is it that the hegemon said that this is the new opposition, and the satellite is the terrorist army! T-erdogan right course go to the insight))))
  20. Seal
    Seal 15 January 2018 17: 33
    +7
    Quote: Piramidon
    For many centuries, the Port, the Ottoman Empire, Turkey has never been a friend of Russia. Only a constant ENEMY. So there is no need to hope for any changes.

    History did not have to skip. You look - there would be knowledge. In the order of educational program (once again, but they still breed).
    We had everything. There were wars. But keep in mind that out of 12 Russian-Turkish wars ..
    1568-1570 - the initiators of the Turks.
    1672-1681 - we are the initiators.
    1686-1700 - we are the initiators.
    1710-1713 - we are the initiators.
    1735-1739 - we are the initiators.
    1768-1774 - the initiators of the Turks.
    1787-1791 - the initiators of the Turks.
    1806-1812 - we are the initiators.
    1828-1829 - we are the initiators.
    The Crimean War (1853-1856) - and here we are the initiators more than the Turks.
    1877-1878 - we are the initiators.
    The First World War - Germans dragged Turkey into their ears, who were helped by you know who. Moreover, Enver Pasha personally authorized the raid to our shores, without notification to higher authorities. And then formally we declared war on Turkey, and not vice versa.
    And October 17th would not have happened if Turkey had remained neutral and we could have received the help of the Allies in the Black Sea ports. Ludendorff after the war said that if we had not been able to drag Turkey into the war, Germany would not have survived until 1916.
    But in any case, in our wars, neither we nor the Turks allowed themselves such vile things as the Swedish king Charles XII did, for example, after his victory at the Battle of Fraustadt in February 1706. In the battle of Fraustadt, an incomprehensible, truly bestial cruelty of the Swedes was revealed regarding the Russians. Indeed, in this national team of the army of Saxon General Schulenburg, there were Saxons, Poles, and even the French, and, finally, the Russians. After their victory (February 3, 1706), the Swedish army captured all those who were not killed and did not have time to escape. Everyone except the Russians! “Many Russians were beaten as well, and which of the soldiers were taken to full, and with those the enemy zealously acted mercilessly, according to the royal decree issued earlier about them, so as not to give them sorry, and abusively pricking a person 2 and 3 each one pricked "with their spears and baguettes. In such a barbaric way, the Swedes exterminated 4 thousand disarmed Russian prisoners after the battle."

    And the Turks did not start the war, as the Germans 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX without an announcement. Turkey always declared war in advance according to all the rules, and only somewhere in half a year did it begin hostilities.
    But there was cooperation.
    There was a time when the sultan defended Russia. So, for example, in 1621, the sultan sent a "blood saber" to the Polish king Sigismund, demanding that she be kissed as a sign of refusal of claims to Moscow. “Do not go to Moscow, for he is a great friend” (Vesti-chimes. Appendix 1. 1600-1631. M.: Nauka, 1982).
    In 1798-1799, our squadrons (Russian and Turkish), united under the command of F.F.Ushakov, smashed the French in the Mediterranean Sea, liberated the islands of Corfu, Malta, etc.

    There was a time when we (1833) landed an expeditionary force on the banks of the Bosphorus in order to protect the Turkish capital from the forces advancing on it against the Sultan of Egypt the Pasha. And Pasha did not tempt fate - he turned his troops back.

    In 1920, for 10 million rubles in gold, Atatürk surrendered Azerbaijan to the young Soviet Republic with all its intact oil fields.

    In 1941 and 1942, Turkey resisted the threats of Hitler and Mussolini and did not open its straits for the passage of warships in Italy and Germany (Germany could transfer the latest submarines) to the Black Sea. Hitler and Mussolini had to drag any trifle by rail in disassembled form or to drive along the Danube.
    1. insular
      insular 15 January 2018 23: 45
      +2
      Quote: Seal
      1672-1681 - we are the initiators.

      Ai-yai-yay, it’s not good to lie ...
      The history of the Russo-Turkish wars is the history of preventive measures against the greedy enemies of foreign lands. No more and no less. Besieged the Turks. And just 1672-1681 is an example of this. You can go further, but the general meaning of the confrontation will continue because the wars were fought all over the same lands, because further events are attempts to revenge that pass from side to side.
      In fact, these are all episodes of one confrontation.
      1. akims
        akims 16 January 2018 13: 43
        0
        Paradoxically, the Turks are nevertheless closer to us than Westerners. Almost their own, although there are many contradictions ...
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  22. Wolka
    Wolka 15 January 2018 17: 53
    0
    however, Erdogash is bluffing, nothing will happen, our VKS will have to bring down reptiles
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 28
      0
      Quote: Volka
      however, Erdogash is bluffing, nothing will happen, our VKS will have to bring down reptiles

      And why is it for our VKS to bomb someone? Or is Erdogan commanding the Russian VKS?
  23. Livonetc
    Livonetc 15 January 2018 17: 58
    0
    Quote: flicker
    For the Pentagon, such statements by Erdogan are just an opportunity to tame the Kurds even more.

    Ага.
    Mass deliveries of lotions will begin to remove the effects of Turkish lyuli.
  24. Kisso4kin
    Kisso4kin 15 January 2018 18: 36
    +1
    I hope not a chatter))) Erdogan !!!
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 19: 29
      +1
      Quote: Kisso4kin
      I hope not a chatter))) Erdogan !!!

      Well, you should not hope for Putin, after all!
  25. muhomor
    muhomor 15 January 2018 19: 57
    0
    Erdogan threatens to wet the stooges of the Americans? belay I'm afraid this is an empty phrase. Americans will give him such a maidan that there will be nowhere to run. fellow
  26. q75agent
    q75agent 15 January 2018 22: 55
    0
    Kurdish paramilitary groups fighting in Syria with the ISIS terrorist organization (banned in the Russian Federation) received a MANPADS party from the United States. It is reported by the inter-Arab publication Al-Masdar.

    According to the publication, the party was delivered to the municipality of Afrin. Delivery was completed last week.
  27. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 16 January 2018 13: 00
    +3
    Lovely scolding, only amuse. Now, if Turkey declared that it was withdrawing from NATO, it would be more serious.
    And so, you think, they threatened the barbarians to soak, which the United States is dragging. For the first time or what?