Russian army will receive "smart" anti-slip mines

For the Russian army, an “anti-tank clock” was developed - the first anti-slip mine PTKM-1P, according to News.

This will be a fundamentally new, high-tech engineering munition, which will significantly increase the capabilities of combat engineer units in the fight against tanks and other modern armored vehicles. Prototypes are already being tested.

“Mina PTKM-1P is a green cylinder the size of an ordinary fire extinguisher and weighs about 20 kg. After installation and activation, it opens like a flower, the petals are separated from the case, holding it in an upright position, ”the publication says.

According to the newspaper referring to the military department, the submunition "is set manually and can remain on combat platoon up to 10 days at temperatures ranging from minus 40 to plus 30 degrees." After a specified period of time, the mine can self-destruct so as not to pose a threat to the civilian population.

The combined sensor (seismic and thermal) is able to detect the target at a distance of 150 – 250 meters. “When a tank or armored vehicle is detected, the mine is slightly tilted in the desired direction. When the target is in the affected area, the submunition is launched. It takes off to a height of several tens of meters, finds an armored vehicle with a thermal imager (reacts to engine heat) and shoots a hot metal from the heated tower into the roof of the tower, ”the newspaper writes.

Protection of modern tanks is becoming more perfect, new types of armor are being invented, tanks are becoming almost invulnerable in frontal projection. Therefore, the designers of anti-tank weapons are looking for ways to hit enemy combat vehicles in less protected parts of the corps. One of the latest trends is anti-slip ammunition that hits the turret or engine from above,

told the newspaper military expert Alexei Leonkov.

According to him, “smart” firing mines should not only increase the effectiveness of engineering barriers, but also facilitate the work of sappers.

Such a mine controls a fairly large area within a radius of up to 100 m, which means that there is no need for solid mining. A small group of servicemen with a dozen or so of such products can quickly block a decent front area. At the same time, trawls and plows are ineffective against such a “smart” minefield, since the destruction of equipment takes place at long distances,

The expert explained.

In the future, “smart” mines can be combined into a network controlled from a single console. The operator will be able to choose which mines to use for the destruction of the target, and which - to leave in reserve.

Comments

[Teberii]

An interesting development, I wanted to see her work. A rather complicated mechanism.

[Topotun]

Something similar, including including helicopters ....
https://fishki.net/1250065-protivovertoletnaja-mi
na-pvm-bumerang.html

[sivuch]

This is exactly against helicopters

[Lexus]

Here, along the way, she

[Brylevsky]

The upper part is the usual self-aiming ammunition, nothing unusual. Horns are similar to IR sensors. The central cylinder, most likely, contains a powder that emits a charge, - that throws the ammunition towards the target. Yes, and not casualty between the central and lower cylinders is seen a "wedge": it seems that there is something like a swivel. With its help, the central cylinder has the ability to tilt ... and the lower, obviously, can rotate in azimuth. In this case, everything is logical. Mina stands and “listens” to the ground ... As soon as the vibration exceeds a predetermined threshold, the microcontroller will turn on the IR sensors - they will help determine what angle the base needs to be turned so that the “bent” central cylinder fires ammunition in the direction of the target ... I think so. And maybe not so.

[Lexus]

In my opinion, a little tall.
American counterpart.

M93 HORNET

[Brylevsky]

A little tall, obviously, because it has the ability to pre-fire. And this one, apparently, shoots vertically, without preliminary guidance ... hence the smaller size. These white cylinders are 100% IR sensors. And on "our" mine, the "horns" are more like acoustic ones, I was mistaken ... the "American" has a whip antenna, maybe the mine can be translated into stand by - mode over the air, just like issuing a command to undermine in that case if the operator observes the target visually and expects it to be in the affected area ...

[Konstantin Kiselev]

The principle is the same.

[Herman 4223]

The thing is really interesting, the main thing is that the release is adjusted as expected.

[KVU-NSVD]

Such a device is very effective against armored vehicles on the march, until something similar is expected (otherwise it will be easily detected by the head engineer watch, as well as in a neutral strip in front of the defense line, where it is difficult to conduct engineering reconnaissance. Well, or in sabotage against the enemy about such reconnaissance PS In any case, the mass of such a mine does not threaten, because it costs no less than another foreign car, and therefore will go to specialized parts in a limited quantity.

[Astoria]

With Foliage debatable:

The combined sensor (seismic and thermal) is able to detect a target at a distance of 150-250 meters.

And this is what the Foliage was reported:

The claimed range of electronic systems of the machine is 70 meters. This means that it will be able to locate and disarm explosive devices not only on the road or roadside, but also at a fairly large distance from the highway itself.

[KVU-NSVD]

STATED TTX of new samples and their REAL capabilities are usually two big differences. The Americans overestimate them, we underestimate them. so it has long been the custom

[Astoria]

Well then, the mines may have more than stated.

[KVU-NSVD]

Can And it can not but rejoice Moreover, the analogues of Foliage in probable partners are not observed

[Genry]

The analogue is "Mine Anti-Tank M93 Hornet WAM (Wide Area Mine)"

Detects tanks by sound or ground vibration. shoots with a charge with a shock core at a distance of 100m, after which, in flight, the target is fired and shot by the core.

It can be delivered manually or by artillery.

[Genry]

Oh! Not about "Foliage" meant.

[Brylevsky]

As I understand it: a conventional self-aiming anti-tank ammunition shot from an aircraft cluster bomb. Only in this case, its carrier is not a bomb, but a mine. It can be assumed that in that "fire extinguisher", which is mentioned in the article, not one ammunition is installed, but their group: in a column, like cartridges in a store ... But what, it’s convenient. I took the finished ammunition, packed it in a container with a knock-out charge, added a set of sensors and an Arduino microcontroller to it all - that's it, the mine is ready. Cheap and cheerful. And something tells me that the shape of the cylinder was chosen for the container with submunitions for a reason: it is extremely tempting to adjust its diameter to the caliber of a MLRS ... hello, remotely mounted minefield.

[bouncyhunter]

Interesting anti-tank "frog".

[Dashout]

A living example of new developments in our defense industry! Well done! And then here on the forum as soon as it comes to financing new topics - it is sure to cut it! How can a new product be without new research? More research funding - more new developments!

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Dashout

And then here on the forum as soon as it comes to financing new topics - it is sure to cut it!

Or a reference to the Soviet developments. Pessimists will always find a reason to poke.

[lukewarm]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Pessimists will always find a reason to poke.

At me, sinful. But there are few reasons for optimism. Crimea was a long time ago, and after the Crimea there is nothing to accomplish.

[bouncyhunter]

Namesake, your words are not like what can be called nagging.

Quote: unwillingly

Crimea was a long time ago, and after the Crimea there is nothing to accomplish.

Is Syria also in passive?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Dashout

A living example of new developments in our defense industry!

New developments ??? Yes, this development years 20-25, if not more! Temp-20 and Temp-30 prototypes were once developed. Anti-helicopter "Temp-20" was finally adopted by the name of FDA (Boomerang (?) Its second name). But the anti-tank (antiturn) Temp-30 (a tick (?) Its second name) got stuck in the "bins" of the Russian Defense Ministry !!! So ... judging by those few descriptions, the "pre-production" PTKM-1 is similar to the "Temp-30", which is already many years old!

[Mountain shooter]

Our answer is "Javelin"! We’ll kill everyone, not even approaching the distance of the shot! This is what I call the "asymmetric response." In short, I foresee that the “toad throw” from the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Zhonbass could end for them more than sadly.
And it is not for nothing that our Krasnopol was used in Syria. Reminded ...

[voyaka uh]

"We kill everyone, not even approaching the distance of the shot!" ////

Mines need to be set up. Moreover, exactly where
tanks will go. Who will do this? - sappers. But sappers are not stealth.
If the activity of sappers is noticed near some road, then the enemy
will not send tanks there. Or pre-mine.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: voyaka uh

"We kill everyone, not even approaching the distance of the shot!" ////

Mines need to be set up. Moreover, exactly where
tanks will go. Who will do this? - sappers. But sappers are not stealth.
If the activity of sappers is noticed near some road, then the enemy
will not send tanks there. Or pre-mine.

As usual, the smartest ...

[Brylevsky]

But mines can be set not only manually, step-by-step ... They can be set by rocket artillery, aviation. Alternatively, the “agents” of the local intelligence network can put mines ... for example, in Chechnya, local residents mined roads on which trucks and other equipment of the federal forces were then blown up.

[Nikolaevich I]

Yes, sappers were given to you! You can drop it from airplanes, helicopters. Deliver it with tactical missiles, use UAVs (multicopters, for example) Of course, sappers can come in handy-charge the right way ... and it’s not at all necessary that the road is viewed every time! And sappers can install mines using methods and means of disguise.

[Glory1974]

Who will do this? - sappers.

In the United States, unlike Russia, practically no manually installed mines are used. All samples are designed for remote mining. In Russia, as usual, they have saved so far on this, but there are also remote ones.

[faiver]

30-40cm cylinder standing on the ground is a good target for training snipers

[rotmistr60]

A disguise for what? Yes, and will be installed in tank hazardous areas with a possible attack by the enemy.

[Maz]

Disguise

[Terenin]

A found ambush is no longer an ambush, but a trap. Change the sniper to the cylinder ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: faiver

30-40cm cylinder standing on the ground is a good target for training snipers

Yeah, and he will train in shooting, as in a dash? I do not envy the sniper who, when firing at the "fire extinguishers," will reveal his position.

[Strips]

KAZ KAZ KAZ ..

[bouncyhunter]

And what about KAZ? Are all the armored vehicles of potential opponents equipped with them?

[Strips]

Not all, but expect this.


KAZ is cheaper than a tank and other armored vehicles, and therefore it is better to spend money on installing a KAZ than salvaged armored vehicles. There is a KAZ for lighter armored vehicles.

By the way, you touched on an interesting topic. When there was a conflict with Georgia, Russia used, judging by the losses of armored vehicles, both old tanks and old armored personnel carriers. Either they did not have time to adjust the new ones, or simply they were not ready.
Therefore, of course, the question is in the priorities and means that are allocated. The enemy can enter on old machines and armored personnel carriers, or maybe on new ones and from KAZ.

By the way, I wonder how much such a mine will cost - also an expensive pleasure and most likely will not be used massively.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Tiras

Not all, but expect this.

I agree, underestimate the enemy - like death. But to overestimate its capabilities - bust and paranoia. KAZ are not a mass phenomenon.

Quote: Tiras

KAZ is cheaper than a tank and other armored vehicles, and therefore it is better to spend money on installing a KAZ than salvaged armored vehicles. There is a KAZ for lighter armored vehicles.

Undoubtedly.

Quote: Tiras

By the way, I wonder how much such a mine will cost - also an expensive pleasure and most likely will not be used massively.

Judging by what is written in the article about equipping a mine, it certainly won’t be cheap, but its prohibitive cost can hardly be called.

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: bouncyhunter

KAZ are not a mass phenomenon

This is only because until some great war is foreseen and in order to save money with this pull. But if the situation suddenly changes and the Western countries, NATO will be forced to use large armored formations against a large enemy, then KAZ will be gatantically delivered to hundreds of vehicles in the shortest possible time. But already on new machines, laser radiation sensors can be guided by a gun and destroy ATGM calculation (or attack failure) during missile flight, or even aiming, if we talk about protection from 3rd generation ATGMs.

[sivuch]

And, by the way, at the expense of KAZ-s. Can they work for goals that fall almost vertically?

[voyaka uh]

Trophy has a dead zone (cone) directly above the roof of the tower. This is not a military secret.
To cover it, you need one more radar up and set one "shooter" on
the back of the tower. Then there will be five radars in total, and three shooters.
A rise in price by about ... 100 thousand dollars.

[sivuch]

Easier to organize a mutual cover

[voyaka uh]

Much more difficult. Synchronize the network radars of different tanks and different
shooting games? One software ... is a dark forest. The Americans tried a simpler: in a group of tanks
goes through every few tanks with an armored personnel carrier KAZ and covers
group. Nothing succeeded. As a result, they bought Trophy.

[karabas-barabas]

So far, the "dead zone" of the KAZ over the roof, as well as weak armor, is not a problem, since neither China nor Russia have mastered the 4th generation RPGs and ATGMs, munitions, with different pickup modes.

[psiho117]

Quote: Tiras

KAZ KAZ KAZ ..

First - KAZ does not work on targets that fire outside its small (20 meters) interception radius
Second - KAZ does not intercept the strike core.
And the strike core that worked from outside its range is generally alles kaput.

[Troll]

“developed” and “prototypes are being tested” is not equal to “adopted”.
Poor tanks, the whole world is against them.

[san4es]

“Smart” firing mines should not only increase the efficiency of engineering barriers, but also facilitate the work of sappers

[Vadim237]

Antitank antiturn mine (Temp-30)

The mine is designed to destroy any tanks and armored vehicles at ranges up to 100 m. The seismic-acoustic system detects and identifies the target at a distance of up to 120 meters. When detecting signs of a target, the mine is first ejected vertically to the top of the pyrotechnic catapult, and then by means of a solid propellant rocket launcher, it accelerates to a speed of 160 m / s in 0,35 s and, when flying over the target, warheads are undermined. Impact core speed up to 1700 m / s.

Main tactical and technical characteristics:
Length:
- mines container - 1000 mm
- mines - 900 mm
Weight:
- a container with a mine - 25 kg
- starting - 10 kg
- warhead - 4,2 kg
Penetration - 100 mm
Caliber - 190 mm
Speed ​​- up to 160 m / s
Warhead caliber - 140 mm
Type of warhead - projectile-forming charge
The speed of the striking element - 1700 m / s

[Puskarinkis]

I remember how a bike went after Afghanistan, about how our tanks lost several from the analogs of such a mine, then they thought about it and began to tie a tank with a burning diesel fuel behind the tank - let an expensive child prodigy be induced ... The development is old. It's time to put such mines so that they cut down all the electronics from the enemy, preferably, reusable ...

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

Quote: puskarinkis

I remember how a bike went after Afghanistan, about how our tanks lost several from the analogs of such a mine, then they thought about it and began to tie a tank with a burning diesel fuel behind the tank - let an expensive child prodigy be induced ... The development is old. It's time to put such mines so that they cut down all the electronics from the enemy, preferably, reusable ...

Isn't it easier to drag an infrared spotlight?

[ROM1077]

But what will prevent the tank from recapturing a flying mine? Abrams equipped with analogues of our arena and curtains.