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Putin compared communism with Christianity, and Lenin’s mausoleum with the repository of the relics of saints.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin compared communism with Christianity, and Vladimir Lenin’s mausoleum with honoring the relics of saints, reports RIA News.




Maybe I will say something now that someone might not like, but I will say it the way I think. Firstly, faith always accompanied us, it strengthened when our country, our people were especially hard. There were such very tough godless years when they destroyed the priests, destroyed the temples. But at the same time creating a new religion. Communist ideology, it is very similar to Christianity, in fact: freedom, equality, fraternity, justice - this is all laid down in the Holy Scriptures, it is all there. And the code of the builder of communism? This is sublimation, it's just such a primitive excerpt from the Bible, nothing new was invented,
Putin said in an interview for the film “Valaam”, an excerpt of which was shown on the Russia 1 channel.

He compared the attitude of the communists to Lenin with the veneration of saints in Christianity.

Look, Lenin was placed in the mausoleum. How does this differ from the relics of the saints for the Orthodox, but simply for Christians? When they say to me that there is no, there is no such tradition in Christianity, well, no, go to Athos, look, there are holy relics there, and here too there are holy relics,
said the Russian leader.

In fact, the new government did not invent anything new, it simply adapted to its ideology what humanity had long invented,
Putin added.
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  1. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 15: 48
    15
    Why did he suddenly decide to speculate on religious matters? He himself is a primitive copy of Christ.
    1. Looking Petrovich
      Looking Petrovich 14 January 2018 15: 51
      43
      Maybe preparing to lie down next to the "saint."
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 14 January 2018 15: 54
        42
        The elections are soon, you need to win over the elderly electorate, you don’t have any money in retirement. And here we are talking about burying Lenin.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 14 January 2018 16: 09
          26
          Quote: Teberii
          money is not retired.

          Pinocchio shake and how Vysotsky sang

          The crowd gasps in unison:
          "Shake your legs
          - You look - it will ring!
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 14 January 2018 16: 18
            12
            Looking Petrovich
            Maybe preparing to lie down next to the "saint."

            About N.S. Khrushchev also said exactly the same thing to the people - that Nikita allegedly “frees up a place in the mausoleum near Lenin,” when Stalin’s corpse was taken out of the Mausoleum and buried near the Kremlin after the provocative exposure of the “Stalin personality cult” from Khrushch himself.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 14 January 2018 17: 20
              43
              Tatyana, maybe all the same a body, not a corpse? Corpses without a refrigerator do not lie for a long time. Yes and no good to say this in relation to the Generalissimo.
              1. friend of animals
                friend of animals 14 January 2018 17: 33
                21
                From the fact that the corpse is embalmed, it does not cease to be a corpse. By today's standards, it’s wild to worship mummies or bones.
                1. The comment was deleted.
                  1. albert
                    albert 14 January 2018 18: 52
                    +9
                    Quote: KaPToC
                    That's it, they will bow to the pieces of dead people - necrophilia.

                    Try to say this to the Orthodox. In an instant, a storm and a hurricane of screams rise.
                    1. KaPToC
                      KaPToC 15 January 2018 08: 54
                      +1
                      Quote: albert
                      Try to say this to the Orthodox. In an instant, a storm and a hurricane of screams rise.

                      It’s time for the Orthodox to reconsider some of their rites, this is first.
                      Secondly - I criticize my own Faith, I'm sorry for such an expression, to pump up how representatives of other religions are perverted.
                      Thirdly, I said this to the Orthodox.
                      1. KaPToC
                        KaPToC 15 January 2018 09: 09
                        +5
                        I will say even more, I was given a warning for the fact that I equated the use of particles of dead people with necrophilia (maybe necromancy?), But what should I call this action if it is so?
                        In my opinion, the moderator maliciously violated the rules of the site by taking sides in the dispute and using an administrative resource for this.
                2. sabakina
                  sabakina 14 January 2018 18: 01
                  12
                  By today's standards, people are burned alive in an iron cage and roasted in an electric chair. Well, at least the guillotine was canceled.
                  1. Inok10
                    Inok10 14 January 2018 18: 08
                    14
                    Quote: KaPToC
                    That's it, they will bow to the pieces of dead people - necrophilia.

                    ... this is not the point ... the pharaohs were also embalmed ... and revered them ... the essence of the words of the GDP is simple and unpretentious that so many knew ... The communist idea is a Christian rewritten in their own way faith - Orthodoxy:
                    - The kingdom of heaven - Communism and to each according to his needs
                    - Righteousness - To each according to his deeds - Socialism ... that's just one thing, BUT ... they suggested we believe in the Idols ... Marx, Engels and Lenin and his Deputies in the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Politburo ... laughing
                    1. Sotskiy
                      Sotskiy 15 January 2018 01: 53
                      +5
                      Quote: Inok10
                      The communist idea is the Christian faith, rewritten in their own way - Orthodoxy:
                      - The kingdom of heaven - Communism and to each according to his needs

                      That is, if I understood correctly, starting in 1985, the remnants of Orthodoxy began to break down in the USSR in the form of the "Code of the Builder of Communism", implemented on this sinful land in the recent past, and in return they suggested to believe again in the supernatural and unattainable in this mortal world?
                      And I think that why since the days of "perestroika and glasnost" we simply divorced the darkness of sects like "Aum Shinrikyo", good uncles like Soros and painted folk nuggets, in the form of "psychics" Chumak, Kashpirovsky, June, Longo, etc. P. It turns out we are thus each to his own, but the true faith returned?
                  2. StVahmistr
                    StVahmistr 14 January 2018 23: 08
                    +2
                    The guillotine is nevertheless “more humane”, bang and you're done ...
                3. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 14 January 2018 18: 05
                  11
                  It’s too early to rush to Lenin’s mausoleum on Red Square!
                  The matter of building a socialist system has not yet died out and it has its fans and its future. History develops in a spiral.
                  Do not figs in the country to initiate society and arrange a "civil war" over the removal of the "body" of Lenin from the Mausoleum! Khrushchev didn’t have to take Stalin himself out of the mausoleum, since he was put there.

                  1. Inok10
                    Inok10 14 January 2018 18: 13
                    +6
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    It’s too early to rush to Lenin’s mausoleum on Red Square!

                    ... who honors history ... doesn’t think of such a thing ... although the Communists didn’t bother with the monuments of Architecture and Churches ... a good indicator ... of the cultural level ... the attitude of the CPSU to the monuments to I.V. Stalin is especially revealing ... laughing
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    The matter of building a socialist system has not yet died out and it has its fans and its future. History develops in a spiral.

                    ... died ... together with I.V. Stalin, a graduate of the Spiritual School ...
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Do not figs in the country to initiate society and arrange a "civil war" over the removal of the "body" of Lenin from the Mausoleum!

                    ... but whoever speaks of this, only provocateurs and downs ...
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Khrushchev didn’t have to take Stalin himself out of the mausoleum, since he was put there.

                    ... it was not worth the Communists to act like that at the Twentieth Congress of the CPSU ... well, you listen except Khrushchev and there were no one at the Congress, and who then voted ?! ... for the decisions of the congress ...
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 14 January 2018 18: 35
                      19
                      Inok10
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Do not figs in the country to initiate society and arrange a "civil war" over the removal of the "body" of Lenin from the Mausoleum!

                      ... but whoever speaks of this, only provocateurs and downs ...
                      You might think that this topic is not raised by people like you!
                      After all, it’s like you, the GDP responded about the “relics” of the Saints so that you and the Russian Orthodox Church would not become very radical against worshiping the “holy” communists in the mausoleum ..

                      In the comments we will not solve this problem with you. We are not in power and we can only compare the historical results of the leadership of our country in different historical eras - for example, the contribution to the development of the country by Stalin in Soviet times and the contribution of the liberal - communist shifter - Yeltsin in post-Soviet times.
                      1. Inok10
                        Inok10 14 January 2018 18: 51
                        10
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        You might think that this topic is not raised by people like you!
                        After all, it’s like you, the GDP responded about the “relics” of the Saints so that you and the Russian Orthodox Church would not become very radical against worshiping the “holy” communists in the mausoleum ..

                        ... Thank you ... You showed the Intellectual level ... and now, in essence, both in deeds and in history ... Orthodoxy was, before the Communists, Orthodoxy was under the Communists and Orthodoxy was after the Communists ... but, the communists only tried use the foundations of the Orthodox faith in order to plant false idols, the dead Marx, Engels and Lenin and the Living - the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Politburo ... laughing
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        for example, the contribution to the development of the country by Stalin in Soviet times and the contribution of the liberal - the communist changeling - Yeltsin in the post-Soviet era.

                        ... You are Communists — you took Stalin out of the mausoleum and debunked “unanimously” at the Twentieth Congress of the CPSU, now you don’t need to pour water here, that it was like I wasn’t ... Yeltsin is yours — the Communist! and Gorbachev is also yours, a Communist ... go and deal with YOURSELF ... DO NOT DISTURB TO US LIVING! ...
                      2. jrvp79
                        jrvp79 15 January 2018 09: 03
                        +1
                        And why without continuing? Who was the receiver of Yeltsin ??
                    2. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 14 January 2018 19: 13
                      12
                      Enoch
                      ... Stalin, you are Communists - you took out of the mausoleum and debunked "unanimously" at the Twentieth Congress of the CPSU, now you don’t have to pour water here, which was like I wasn’t ...

                      Enoch! Labels "communists" on me and on everyone who thinks so, do not hang! Firstly, you did not hold a candle at my feet, as they say.
                      Secondly, I have never been a member of the Communist Party. I just at the university studied qualitatively philosophical disciplines and my teachers were talented and thinking!
                      So, in your polemic with our sophists, you don’t need to “shoot me” at your opposition.
                      I am telling you that this problem is complex and your attack on it in favor of the Russian Orthodox Church does not work in Russia's favor.
                      1. Inok10
                        Inok10 14 January 2018 20: 27
                        10
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Enoch! Labels "communists" on me and on everyone who thinks so, do not hang!

                        ... well, for this, I can say that I’ve read your comments for several months ... there’s no doubt, now with the nomination of Mr. Grudinin, suddenly all the Communists put on masks ... this is a new strategy of the Communist Party, not to reflect, but to crap pretty well and not cleverly ... that's just what this comment of yours is worth, just yesterday:
                        I fully admit that this could be through our dependence on the IMF. The IMF, as a supranational instrument of the United States in the form of global money-lenders, may well absorb the Russian Federation - just like Ukraine. Just the amount of debt of the Russian Federation (any country) goes over time into a change in quality. At the same time, Harvard and Houston projects are in operation. Nobody has canceled them in the West.
                        ... in general, in your political orientation, it is difficult to make a mistake ... hi
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        You are at my feet, as they say, did not hold a candle.

                        ... uh ... don’t bring the Lord ...
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Secondly, I have never been a member of the Communist Party. I just at the university studied qualitatively philosophical disciplines and my teachers were talented and thinking!

                        ... I doubt, after your enthusiasm by Mr. Kasatonov ... illiteracy and idle talk ...
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        so that you do not need to “shoot back” from me in your polemic with your sophisms with your opposition.

                        ... the comments archive has not yet been canceled, what is written with a pen, can not be cut down with an ax ... not familiar? ...
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        I am telling you that this problem is complex and your attack on it in favor of the Russian Orthodox Church does not work in Russia's favor.

                        ... just for the benefit ... it is necessary to calculate the Wolves in sheep's clothing ...
                    3. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 14 January 2018 20: 52
                      10
                      Enoch! And why did you decide that if you are an Orthodox believer, then with your political and ideological apparatus of the Russian Orthodox Church, you can claim the ultimate truth ?! Why are you intolerant of dissent ?!
                      Enoch
                      Yeltsin-this is yours-the Communist! and Gorbachev is also yours, a Communist ... go and deal with YOURSELF ... DO NOT DISTURB TO US LIVING! ...
                      Eva, where you, as a liberal, are radically drunk! You see: "DO NOT DISTURB TO US LIVING!" !!!
                      This is how civil wars begin!
                      1. Inok10
                        Inok10 14 January 2018 22: 43
                        +9
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Enoch! And why did you decide that if you are an Orthodox believer, then with your political and ideological apparatus of the Russian Orthodox Church, you can claim the ultimate truth ?!

                        ... Feel Good People ?! ... wording! ... You will meet them more than once ... in different combinations ... TOTALITARISM IN MORDOR! (RF) ... laughing
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Why do you have such intolerance of dissent ?!

                        ... oh ... somewhere it was already about Not tolerance? ... ABOUT ! ... in Europe ! ... Tolerate Refugees and give them your Wives and your Children, Be Tolerant of their needs ... laughing
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        This is how civil wars begin!

                        ... DO NOT GET! ... INSTALL THE DUST TO SWALLOW! ... CHEAP PROVOCATORS ... laughing
                    4. asiat_61
                      asiat_61 15 January 2018 04: 05
                      +2
                      Inok10 ....... That's why I love smart people. After 60 years, everyone is smart.
                    5. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 15 January 2018 13: 21
                      +1
                      Quote: Inok10

                      ... it was not worth the Communists to act like that at the Twentieth Congress of the CPSU ... well, you listen except Khrushchev and there were no one at the Congress, and who then voted ?! ... for the decisions of the congress ...

                      First of all, dear, You need to know a little more.
                      1. The report of Khrushchev to the Congress was read to delegates the day after the closing of the Congress.
                      2. Not all delegates attended this report.
                      3. After the report, in violation of the regulations, the debate on the essence of the report was not opened.
                      4. In view of the lack of debate on the report, the Congress did not take any decisions on the report.
                  2. midivan
                    midivan 14 January 2018 18: 57
                    +5
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Do not figs in the country to initiate society and arrange a "civil war" over the removal of the "body" of Lenin from the Mausoleum!

                    Casus belli belay ? If, due to the removal of Ilyich, someone is ready to shoot at a fellow, then yes, the world has gone mad.
                    1. Abracadabrus
                      Abracadabrus 14 January 2018 22: 30
                      +6
                      Quote: midivan
                      Enoch! And why did you decide that if you are an Orthodox believer, then with your political and ideological apparatus of the Russian Orthodox Church, you can claim the ultimate truth ?! Why are you intolerant of dissent ?!

                      And from there intolerance, that he is the same Christian as the stump of the archbishop. A person is simply hiding behind the name of a Christian, but look carefully at what he writes - this is an ideology completely alien to Christianity, rather some kind of sectarianism.
                      1. Inok10
                        Inok10 14 January 2018 22: 59
                        11
                        Quote: Abracadabrus
                        And from there intolerance, that he is the same Christian as the stump of the archbishop. A person is simply hiding behind the name of a Christian, but look carefully at what he writes - this is an ideology completely alien to Christianity, rather some kind of sectarianism.

                        ... Man ... here The article is being discussed, and not my Personality ... go to the Person with Interlocutors and share your thoughts there ... Resource Rules IN, you accepted when registering ... be kind or don’t complain then ... laughing
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 14 January 2018 23: 58
                        +2
                        Inok10
                        Quote: Abracadabrus
                        And from there intolerance, that he is the same Christian as the stump of the archbishop. A person is simply hiding behind the name of a Christian, but look carefully at what he writes - this is an ideology completely alien to Christianity, rather some kind of sectarianism.
                        . Man ... here the article is being discussed, not my Personality ... go to Lichka with Interlocutors and share your thoughts there ... VO Resource rules, you accepted when registering ... be kind or don’t complain then ...
                        Enoch! But you yourself are the first in your arguments to prove that you were allegedly right in the polemic, switched to "arguments for the individual" - to all "communists" indiscriminately!
                        In a scientifically sound polemic on this topic, "arguments to the person" in the form of sticking labels for dissenting users scientifically sound arguments are not! There is no confidence in your reasoning!
                        GDP correctly spoke about the mausoleum and Lenin! And it’s good that he did it before the presidential election in the Russian Federation. Namely. GDP honestly - with an open visor - outlined its position. This is better than sweating before the voters, who suddenly then declare that he allegedly deceived their expectations. And this applies to both believers and communists, as well as just sensible citizens of Russia.
                        Users, Monk, users stop in your Christian radicalism about the topic of the article - the topic of expressing GDP about the Lenin Mausoleum as a religious subject for the Communists - and you, as if allegedly "Orthodox", are even more "boiling" over your opponents. Yes, and threaten the user Abracadabrus about allegedly violating his site rules!
                        Well, this is not good! Wrong! And ugly of you!
                        Abracadabrus expressed his opinion on your point of view on the essence of the controversy to this article.
                      3. Inok10
                        Inok10 15 January 2018 00: 23
                        +5
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Well, this is not good! Wrong! And ugly of you!
                        Abracadabrus expressed his opinion on your point of view on the essence of the controversy to this article.

                        ... oh, is it? ... not pretty? and not right? ... on whose side, maybe on yours! .... He expressed Opinion on the Essence or on my Person? ... we read, the benefit is not difficult:
                        Quote: Abracadabrus
                        And from there intolerancethat he is a Christian like a stump archbishop. Person just hiding behind the name of a Christianbut look carefully at what he writes - this is an ideology completely alien to Christianity, rather some kind of sectarianism.
                        ... it's just rudeness! ... what is the conversation about ?! ... go Tanya, do not cry ... your ball will sink very
                        coming soon ...
                        P.S. .... and also for the Gifted! ... in VO the article is being discussed ... but not Opinions! ... Learn ...
                      4. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 15 January 2018 01: 07
                        +2
                        Alexey! Controversy as an exchange of views on the article exists because in the dispute and in the discussion of various points of view, truth is born. For this we are discussing in order to come to a consensus. It is necessary to rally the people, not to disconnect!
                        Correctness in the dispute must certainly be respected.
                        And you yourself wound up and brought others! Hence such results.

                        Alexey! You look at yourself! Well, what is it?
                        Enoch
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        This is how civil wars begin!
                        ... DO NOT GET! ... INSTALL THE DUST TO SWALLOW! ... CHEAP PROVOCATORS ...
                        Well, who is discussing this?
                    2. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 15 January 2018 13: 31
                      +1
                      Quote: midivan

                      Casus belly belay? If, due to the removal of Ilyich, someone is ready to shoot at a fellow, then yes, the world has gone mad.

                      And if the one who tolerates Ilyich knows that they can shoot and still endures, then how?
                  3. RUSS
                    RUSS 14 January 2018 19: 24
                    +3
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    It’s too early to rush to Lenin’s mausoleum on Red Square!

                    The mausoleum is a monument, it will not be demolished, but Ilyich’s corpse must be removed.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 14 January 2018 20: 17
                      +9
                      Quote: RUSS
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      It’s too early to rush to Lenin’s mausoleum on Red Square!

                      The mausoleum is a monument, it will not be demolished, but Ilyich’s corpse must be removed.
                      The liberal authorities of Russia will also demolish the mausoleum! You can not doubt it! This has already been talked about.
                      Russian liberoids will uproot the entire historical memory of the Soviet period of our country in the same way as it is done in Ukraine, the Baltic countries, Poland, etc.
                      It’s just that these countries are smaller than the Russian Federation and therefore there these liberal historical anti-Soviet processes are going faster. Well, much depends on the leader of the country in this regard.
                    2. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 15 January 2018 13: 34
                      +1
                      Quote: RUSS

                      The mausoleum is a monument, it will not be demolished, but Ilyich’s corpse must be removed.

                      And you immediately feel better. You will receive incredible spiritual satisfaction. And the economy will immediately work. AND ALL TROUBLES IN THE STATE WILL RESOLVE YOURSELF.
                4. Lexus
                  Lexus 14 January 2018 18: 37
                  +2
                  By today's standards, it’s wild to worship mummies or bones.

                  Is this a "run over" to the Russian Orthodox Church?
                  1. friend of animals
                    friend of animals 14 January 2018 18: 46
                    +4
                    Why not, although an atheist, but I share faith and church. Worshiping bones is an invention of priests.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 14 January 2018 18: 54
                      +4
                      Quote: friend of animals
                      Why not, although an atheist, but I share faith and church. Worshiping bones is an invention of priests.
                      What kind of atheist are you if you share faith and church? You, as they say, according to your philosophical convictions, are just an eclectic, a person with erroneous, scientifically untenable logical constructions in your ideological thinking.
                      1. friend of animals
                        friend of animals 14 January 2018 19: 12
                        +3
                        What is the problem for you here? I’m not writing about my faith, but about the attitude towards believers and the church.
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 14 January 2018 21: 26
                        +2
                        friend of animals
                        What is the problem for you here? I’m not writing about my faith, but about the attitude towards believers and the church.
                        Yes, you just in that case inaccurately expressed!
                        Would write - I treat believers and church tolerantly! And so you have a semantic absurdity - a believer in the god "atheist".
                    2. Orionvit
                      Orionvit 15 January 2018 01: 22
                      +5
                      Quote: friend of beasts
                      Worship the bones - the invention of the priests

                      And the priests than you salted? And who do you think are priests in the church, if not priests of the Christian cult? Communism is also a cult, with its priests Putin correctly said, communism and Christianity are siblings. In terms of ideological influence on society, and the mechanisms are similar.
                5. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 14 January 2018 20: 22
                  +3
                  Quote: friend of beasts
                  From the fact that the corpse is embalmed, it does not cease to be a corpse. By today's standards, it’s wild to worship mummies or bones.
                  Yeah. Now they worship more Bitcoin, dollar, smartphone, etc. In my opinion, let people believe and worship what and anyone, if only they would not destroy each other and live humanly.
                  1. jrvp79
                    jrvp79 15 January 2018 09: 24
                    +2
                    Uh, nooo !! It won’t work out that way. All religions are invented for enslavement and war. We recall the baptism of Russia, the Crusades, the great cloud of covenants, in which the legs can be broken. All these so-called teachings lead mankind to the grave. It is sad to realize that most do not understand this.
                6. gromoboj
                  gromoboj 14 January 2018 21: 03
                  +1
                  To worship "relics" is not wild, but if a person has not yet been torn to pieces then wildly. Good logic.
                  Well, worshiping money is generally the same thing.
                7. Ace Tambourine
                  Ace Tambourine 14 January 2018 23: 13
                  +2
                  From one Jewish boy, no bones were left of mummies, but no! already 2000 years foreheads hurt ....
                8. Svist
                  Svist 14 January 2018 23: 58
                  +1
                  Quote: friend of beasts
                  By today's standards, it’s wild to worship mummies or bones.

                  148 article, insulting the feelings of believers ... lol
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 15 January 2018 01: 48
                    +2
                    Svist
                    Quote: friend of animals
                    By today's standards, it’s wild to worship mummies or bones.
                    148 article, insulting the feelings of believers ... lol
                    Why troll?

                    The State Duma of the Russian Federation has already raised the issue of the abuse by believers of expanding the scope of this article in Russia in order to expand the infringement of believers on the civil rights of atheists. Namely.
                    This article assumes application only to actions that offend believers in their field - i.e. in churches, during services, religious processions, etc. In civilian life - in the ideological secular field - this does not apply. Atheists also have a say. And then quite Orthodox atheists have already pinned the wall in the country and they are not given a chance to breathe, while, according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, Russia is still a secular state!
                9. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 15 January 2018 01: 17
                  0
                  Quote: friend of beasts
                  By today's standards, it’s wild to worship mummies or bones.

                  What strongly civilized steel? Oh well.
                10. Senior manager
                  Senior manager 15 January 2018 11: 19
                  +2
                  Friend of animals. Yes, and what to honor the ancestors - they are corpses. And you don’t need a story - it’s already in the past. This is very Bolshevik-to destroy their history. ISIS overlooked Palmyra too, by your standards it’s not savagery, but an ennoblement of the territory.
                11. Archivist Vasya
                  Archivist Vasya 15 January 2018 13: 25
                  +1
                  And why should you worship, if not Lenin and the relics of saints in your opinion? An iPhone or an i-Droid? Everything is as it should, not savagery - but tradition.
            2. AUL
              AUL 14 January 2018 19: 45
              +2
              Quote: Tatiana
              About N.S. Khrushchev’s people also said exactly the same thing - that Nikita allegedly “frees up a place in the mausoleum near Lenin”,

              There was then a joke: The mausoleum tripled security. What for? And at night, Nikita breaks with a racadushka there!
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          1. Teberii
            Teberii 14 January 2018 16: 14
            +4
            He is self-nominated, which means you need to be good for everyone.
            1. _person_
              _person_ 14 January 2018 18: 42
              +6
              By disclosing such information, the GDP will certainly not add to itself supporters either in the person of ardent admirers of Marxist ideology (not to be confused with the Bolshevik ideology), or in the face of adherents of the biblical concept. So he definitely won’t add points to himself in the election race. If he allows himself to announce this now, it means that the loss of a part of his points does not bother him now.

              But in essence, the following was presented to the Russian and any other thinking public. Religion is an ideology, communism is also an ideology. When, for the purposes of globalization, the elite was profitable to replace polytheism with monotheism, they planted fire and sword, including Christianity (ideology), including in Russia. But in Russia, this ideology mutated, acquiring the colors characteristic of the Russian spirit — justice, equality, fraternity, self-sacrifice for one’s own and through all this gaining freedom, having degenerated into Orthodoxy so hated by the West.

              In order to destroy the ideological (Orthodox) bonds of Russia again, the Marxist ideology, also fostered in the West, was called to help, and everything seemed to grow together, but again bad luck - the Bolsheviks came to power, the Trotskyists were pushed as far as they could, and the ideology mutated into Bolshevism, with those the same ideals as in Orthodoxy. Awl for soap turns out ..

              But there are also some other phenomena in these ideologies, which the president drew attention to. This is idolatry. To worship the bones of the dead, or other idols - objects of animate / inanimate nature is idolatry, i.e. that is what the prophets and Jesus and Muhammad opposed. And this phenomenon is inherent in both ideologies and communism and Christianity. This worship of idols and the dead has nothing to do with fellowship with God.
              1. Prjanik
                Prjanik 15 January 2018 05: 48
                0
                [/ quote] _man_ [quote]
                Respect. One of the few writers on the topic of the article, moreover, very competently.
          2. User
            User 14 January 2018 16: 14
            25
            This is some kind of quiet horror. To compare communism, where people are equal and free, and Christianity, which supported feudalism and the slave system throughout its existence, it is from God. It is just no words. fool
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 14 January 2018 16: 36
              28
              Quote: User
              This is some kind of quiet horror. To compare communism, where people are equal and free, and Christianity, which supported feudalism and the slave system throughout its existence, it is from God. It's just no words

              Christianity encourages a person to be a person, and not a beast when this condition is met, with any system you will be happy. But communism happened the same as with Christ, Judas betrayed him from among the apostles, only their name was legion
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 14 January 2018 17: 22
                11
                Quote: User
                This is some kind of quiet horror. To compare communism, where people are equal and free, and Christianity, which supported feudalism and the slave system throughout its existence, it is from God. It is just no words. fool


                Well, yes, under communism people are so even everything, the true truth.

                For example, a talented engineer, inventor are equal with the ordinary worker who is all fucked up,
                and party bonuses are equal to gods
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 15 January 2018 14: 49
                  0
                  Quote: bulvas

                  Well, yes, under communism people are so even everything, the true truth.

                  For example, a talented engineer, inventor are equal with the ordinary worker who is all fucked up,
                  and party bonuses are equal to gods

                  And why do you, dear, take for comparison a talented engineer, inventor and compare with a worker who is all fucked up? And I, in my lifetime, 43 years of working experience in one workshop and at the same factory, have seen enough of both engineers, whom it is a sin to call engineers, and working professionals, who do not care for everything. Yes, the Bolsheviks had a goal to make people equal, but not in yours, and not only in your understanding, but in equal access to education, honey. assistance, the right to work, rest, equality before the law, etc. Ask any anti-communist are you against such equality? He will say no. So why are you anti-communist? Yes, because on TV for 20 years they say that comm. an idea is bad. Did all the Bolsheviks manage to do? No, not all. But the desire for this was. With the death of Stalin, everything gradually began to be perverted. Yes, Stalin did not have time. He did not have time to create a theory for the further construction of a just society, without which, as he himself said, "we will die." He perfectly understood that Marxism and Leninism had already exhausted themselves. But before the war he had no time - he built the USSR, then fought, then restored the country. When he was. So, before blaming communism, ask yourself the question - what do I dislike about the communist idea? Understanding that 100 years is unlikely to be enough to build such a society. Especially with such "communists" as Khrushchev.
              2. bulvas
                bulvas 14 January 2018 17: 34
                +7
                Quote: Vadivak
                And the same thing happened with communism as with Christ; Judas among the apostles betrayed him


                They did not betray.
                They did not believe in communism, just as the smell of profit went unpunished, and they themselves rushed to break it first
                1. Vadivak
                  Vadivak 14 January 2018 17: 42
                  +6
                  Quote: bulvas
                  They did not betray.
                  They did not believe in communism, just as the smell of profit went unpunished, and they themselves rushed to break it first

                  Hello. Khrushchev believed, but he betrayed the dead lion of Stalin first, setting an example and a start was made
                  1. bulvas
                    bulvas 14 January 2018 18: 22
                    0
                    Quote: Vadivak
                    Hello. Khrushchev believed, but he betrayed the dead lion of Stalin first, setting an example and a start was made


                    I doubt that someone believed
                    They had nowhere to go, would dare immediately
              3. KaPToC
                KaPToC 14 January 2018 18: 01
                +5
                Quote: Vadivak
                Christianity encourages a person to be a person, and not a beast when this condition is met, with any system you will be happy.

                There are no annihilated peoples on the conscience of the communists.
                1. bulvas
                  bulvas 14 January 2018 18: 19
                  +4
                  Quote: KaPToC
                  There are no annihilated peoples on the conscience of the communists.


                  Only the Russian people are decreasing, and the country is becoming smaller as a result, and more enemies

                  Thanks exclusively to the Communists
                  In the first half of the century they reduced the population (before the Second World War), at the end of the century they still reduced and dispersed around the world
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 14 January 2018 21: 40
                    +4
                    bulvas
                    Only the Russian people are decreasing, and the country is becoming smaller as a result, and more enemies
                    Thanks exclusively to the Communists
                    In the first half of the century they reduced the population (before the Second World War), at the end of the century they still reduced and dispersed around the world

                    You do not confuse pro-Western Trotskyists with the Stalinists before the Second World War!
                    And at the end of the century, Khrushchev’s Trotskyists-shifters, just like Gorbachev, the EBN in the CCC / RF and the heads in the former nats, were just not finished by Stalin. Soviet republics, just came to power!
                    1. bulvas
                      bulvas 14 January 2018 22: 03
                      0
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      You do not confuse pro-Western Trotskyists with the Stalinists before the Second World War! And at the end of the century, Khrushchev’s Trotskyists-shifters, just like Gorbachev, the EBN in the CCC / RF and the heads in the former nats, were just not finished by Stalin. Soviet republics, just come to power!


                      Tatyana, do not get excited



                      Who cares, it was all one party, starting with Lenin

                      The result is obvious - the party officials who seized power and management of all resources in the country, ruined and destroyed the country for their own gain - the appropriation of these resources

                      This is the true price of the Communist Party

                      And do not blame everything on a handful of those who were in sight

                      In every corner of the country, party officials and red directors appropriated everything they could reach.

                      Inhuman, guided only by the instinct for the survival of officials, disregard for people, lying and demagogic.

                      These are its main qualities and led to the next destruction of the country
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 15 January 2018 00: 29
                        +8
                        bulvas
                        Who cares, it was all one party, starting with Lenin
                        The difference is very big.
                        At first. Lenin died in the year 1924, and before that he was very ill.
                        Secondly. In the CPSU (b) and the CPSU historically there were 2 ideological trends: Trotskyism and Stalinism.
                        Trotskyists advocated simply for the world proletarian revolution, but in essence, advocated under the banner of the proletarian International for the transfer of Russia to foreign globalist government from outside.
                        Stalinists opposed the Trotskyist globalists - i.e. advocated precisely the preservation of the national sovereignty of Soviet Russia from the foreign government of the country from the outside. For the fact that socialism can be built in a single country, and not burn Russia to the needs of the whole world.
                        The Stalinists defeated the Trotskyists only in the 1937-38 years. Prior to this, the Trotskyists dominated the party in the country.
                        Hence the results of different years of Soviet power.
                      2. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 15 January 2018 15: 04
                        +1
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Who cares, it was all one party, starting with Lenin

                        In connection with your misunderstanding of the complex, I propose a simplified version.
                        There was a collective farm; the collective farm had a chairman, Ivanov. The collective farm did not crawl out of loans and was a burden. Farmers lived poorly. Then they elect Petrov as chairman. A year later, the collective farm paid off loans. Well, etc. Catch the difference? Only in the matter under discussion was the opposite. With the advent of Khrushchev, not only did the pace change, but, most importantly, the course changed.
              4. flicker
                flicker 14 January 2018 18: 20
                +6
                good Very accurately noticed, in the top ten
                Christianity encourages a person to be a person, and not a beast when this condition is met, with any system you will be happy. But communism happened the same as with Christ, Judas betrayed him from among the apostles, only their name was legion

                Once more good
              5. SOF
                SOF 14 January 2018 20: 47
                +3
                ... well said!
              6. mark021105
                mark021105 14 January 2018 21: 24
                +1
                Yes, there was no communism. The goal was to build a communist society. They built socialism, but everyone is far from communism ...
            2. ProkletyiPirat
              ProkletyiPirat 14 January 2018 16: 45
              +7
              you confuse faith and religion, the problem is precisely that priests of certain faiths have usurped the mental images "faith", "believer", "non-believer". And so Christianity, and Islam, and atheism are all faiths, "faith is when you affirm something but cannot prove it, then you believe in your statement". Some argue that God exists but cannot prove it, others that he does not exist but also cannot prove it. So people who claim to have met with aliens are also believers. We are all believers, which of us did not spit three times over his shoulder? who didn't go around the black cat? Therefore, do not confuse faith and religion, the latter, along with faith, has other signs, in particular "sacred" places and "priests", as well as "sacred" books, candles, bottles, jars, pictures, figurines and all this can be bought . laughing And most importantly NO TAXES! laughing
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            4. friend of animals
              friend of animals 14 January 2018 17: 38
              +8
              Equal and free like a herd of sheep in a stall. Just as the ideas of Christianity were perverted by the priests, so were the ideas of communism by bureaucrats and power lovers.
              1. Stas Snezhin
                Stas Snezhin 14 January 2018 17: 55
                +1
                Equal and free like a herd of sheep in a stall.

                Let me find out where such knowledge, or personal memories come from?
                1. friend of animals
                  friend of animals 14 January 2018 18: 09
                  +1
                  From history, even when the stall was demolished, the herd remained in place.
                  1. Stas Snezhin
                    Stas Snezhin 14 January 2018 18: 36
                    +2
                    Well, dear history researcher, you don’t need to speak so indiscriminately for everyone, declaring their farm knowledge. If you do not breathe evenly to the past period of the history of our country, this does not at all give you the right to indirectly call herds living earlier. They don’t hint at you that personal bitterness probably comes from the fact that when something was pinched. So, do your household and don’t worry so much. What happened is gone ..
                    1. friend of animals
                      friend of animals 14 January 2018 19: 08
                      +1
                      Because communism is utopian, and therefore a herd of sheep under the wise leadership of the leader. The ideological communists were destroyed by Stalin and replaced by bureaucrats, and the population was finally disappointed in the ideas of communism during the reign of Brezhnev. Total at the time of perestroika, almost no one spoke on the side of the Communists. Unfortunately, the following years did not give relief, and people embellish the past. This is used by various political forces. So it is not far from Orthodox communism.
                      1. Svetlana
                        Svetlana 15 January 2018 11: 54
                        +2
                        Quote: friend of animals
                        Because communism is utopian, and therefore a herd of sheep under the wise leadership of the leader. The ideological communists were destroyed by Stalin and replaced by bureaucrats, and the population was finally disappointed in the ideas of communism during the reign of Brezhnev. Total at the time of perestroika, almost no one spoke on the side of the Communists. Unfortunately, the following years did not give relief, and people embellish the past. This is used by various political forces. So it is not far from Orthodox communism.

                        Tatiana lucidly explained to you that Stalin destroyed the Trotskyists, not ideological communists. So what in your head has such liberal porridge still remained? The bureaucracy began to prosper and prosper again after the death of Stalin under Khrushchev, for which Khrushchev arranged for this coup d'etat and the assassination of Stalin, that he himself was a Trotskyist and his failure was approaching if he (with the help of Western agents) could not have killed Stalin and his close associates.
                        Communism is not a utopia, it is an ideal society that could very well be built in the USSR, we went to this very quickly and successfully, despite the strong weakening of the country by the war against Germany and the machinations of the Trotskyists. Such a successful society, some had a bone in their throat, and some of those who invested 40 years of life and astronomical amounts into discrediting such a society.
              2. didra
                didra 15 January 2018 02: 21
                0
                Hello. And why did you decide that you figured this out?) I'm just wondering. What ideas do we have in Christianity ... and how the PRISONS perverted them !!! Can you read more?
            5. Stas Snezhin
              Stas Snezhin 14 January 2018 17: 49
              +5
              Yes, in communism it wasn’t such that the lines stood to kiss the remains of a corpse (which are relics). Yes, and slaves were not appointed ..
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 14 January 2018 17: 57
                +3
                Quote: Stas Snezhin
                Yes, and slaves were not appointed ..


                Slave means worker. God's servant means working for God.
                It was uninteresting for the masters to work, and this category of the human race was despised by them, and the abbreviated slave appeared.
            6. _person_
              _person_ 14 January 2018 19: 15
              +5
              The GDP, in its presentation of the vision of the situation, touched upon the deeper meanings of the processes and phenomena that are going on / running in society. See my comment above.

              And everyone already interprets this information to the best of their morality and intellectual capabilities.
            7. Ace Tambourine
              Ace Tambourine 14 January 2018 23: 16
              0
              But I wonder if PutinCenter YeltsinCenter will overshadow?
          3. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 14 January 2018 16: 44
            +4
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Quote: Teberii
            The elections are soon, you need to get the elderly electorate to yourself, you don’t have money on pension.

            And why should he? A new pointer came out: laughing
            Lovers of "breast" please do not get excited! lol

            laughing Neighing, thanks.
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              2. Vadivak
                Vadivak 14 January 2018 17: 43
                +4
                Quote: sabakina
                Horse what


                Rather a horse
                1. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov 15 January 2018 09: 43
                  0
                  More precisely, the stallion wink Envy is generally a bad feeling.
          4. Hoc vince
            Hoc vince 14 January 2018 17: 48
            +5
            Russian authorities should keep their people in a state of constant amazement.
            M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin
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        4. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 15 January 2018 05: 49
          +1
          Quote: Teberii
          The elections are soon, you need to win over the elderly electorate, you don’t have any money in retirement. And here we are talking about burying Lenin.

          Elections will be held, and the words printed and captured ---- will remain. And this is good, because it is necessary to shut up the nastiness and ridicule of the USSR and the Communists ----- these are all the achievements of the Soviet people, due to their country and preserved despite the betrayal of the 90s
      2. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO 14 January 2018 16: 05
        +7
        Quote: Looking Petrovich
        Maybe preparing to lie down next to the "saint."

        Yeah, in the ebncenter the place is prepared ... under a pot of ash
      3. Cadet
        Cadet 14 January 2018 16: 25
        10
        The elections are coming soon, but this is not the case.
      4. Galaktionych
        Galaktionych 15 January 2018 18: 20
        0
        Quote: Looking Petrovich
        Maybe preparing to lie down next to the "saint."


        Your comment made my day, as they say in the spiritless West :))
    2. Chertt
      Chertt 14 January 2018 15: 53
      +8
      Quote: Altona
      He himself is a primitive copy of Christ.

      Uh ... Dear, easier .... right now all the believers tensed
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      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 14 January 2018 16: 06
        +6
        Quote: Chertt
        Uh ... Dear, easier .... right now all the believers tensed


        They didn’t strain anything. Read the scripture.
        Being
        1:26. And God said: Let us make man in the image
        Our [and] in our likeness, and may they rule
        they are above the fish of the sea, and above the birds of the air,
        [and over the beasts,] and over the cattle, and over the whole earth,
        1. _person_
          _person_ 14 January 2018 19: 30
          +3
          "The Lord said: Let us make man in our image and in our likeness (Genesis 1, 26), and then we read: And God created man in his own image, in the image of God He created him (Genesis 1, 27). About likeness already Nothing is said. There are two goals in the intention, and only one in the realization. Therefore, the common patristic thought agrees that the image is this givenness, the potential that each of us has. Similarity is the goal that we have to achieve. "

          This is so, information for consideration.
          1. chikenous59
            chikenous59 15 January 2018 09: 23
            0
            I understand that you are studying / interested in BER?
            1. _person_
              _person_ 27 January 2018 15: 29
              +2
              Good day! I apologize for the late response.
              Yes, you understand correctly. Plus, I try to share my thoughts / knowledge with my friends to the best of my ability.
        2. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 14 January 2018 23: 19
          0
          Well, if you carefully read and count, then the women were created 2 (two) ... so I’m constantly tormented by doubts about where the second had gone after the expulsion of Adam and Eve from Paradise ... There is an assumption that she also gave her brother, and it was Cain who found her in the mountains ...
    3. karish
      karish 14 January 2018 15: 59
      11
      nothing but

      never mind.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 14 January 2018 17: 28
        +6
        Quote: karish
        nothing but
        never mind.

        That's why it comes to mind, but to your head! wink
        1. krops777
          krops777 14 January 2018 17: 51
          +3
          Is Sabakina in a bad mood? they called one horse, because he expressed one of the man’s reactions to humor on youth slang, another indicated that his thoughts came to his head and not to his mind, and that the mind was therefore not a derivative of the activity of the brain that is in the head, take a rest seagull do not spill your negativity on people. love
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 14 January 2018 18: 06
            +2
            Well, apparently, your mood is even worse if you do not want to call me by name.
          2. RUSS
            RUSS 14 January 2018 19: 29
            +1
            Quote: krops777
            Is Sabakina in a bad mood?

            "Dog" is a man laughing , I asked him why the nickname and avatar are like that, but he is silent laughing
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 15 January 2018 04: 33
              0
              Maksim, hi Vyacheslav is already tired of explaining to everyone. Those who know how to use the site can go to his comments and find the necessary information. Those who do not know how - they constantly ask.
    4. Slovak
      Slovak 14 January 2018 16: 03
      0
      Do you reason rightfully and from the position of a saint?
    5. starogil
      starogil 14 January 2018 16: 08
      +6
      These, his rants are more like a desire to smooth out what has been said and done
      them in November 2017: a meeting with the "human rights defenders" Fedotov-Aleksey,
      the opening of an "incomprehensible" wall, a monument in Livadia to Alexander III, all without discussion,
      without polls .... in any case, it doesn’t seem like an apology .....
      1. Dead duck
        Dead duck 14 January 2018 16: 44
        +5
        Quote: starogil
        These, his rants are more like a desire to smooth out what was said

        it is not a desire to smooth, but a desire to create something new.
        he had repeatedly said earlier that "there will be no return to the old" ... from a word in general ...
        but they are not going to revive the monarchy either.
        only it will turn out as always - "not ours not yours."
    6. Svarog
      Svarog 14 January 2018 16: 14
      30
      He does not discuss religious matters. He wants communism and the Soviet past. Because he has already been informed of the enormous popularity of Grudinin and the Communist Party. The Soviet past made him who he is. If Putin was born at that time, in the family that he was born (of workers), he would now be a gopnik some sort of simple worker. For what he managed to create for his rule is NOTHING! A form of state structure, as in Somalia or some other African country. There is no ideology, no prospects, no education, no medicine .. It is simpler to say that there is a handful of thieves, corruption that crushed all resources for itself and sheared the people like a black sheep. At the same time, this handful actively came up with its own, primitive ideology, which is based on patriotism, this is when the ideologists themselves and their children have citizenships of other countries, but at the same time they rub the population of Russia that everything (the West) is rotting .. and here in Russia everything blooms, “BREAKTHROUGH” and a little bit more and we will catch up and overtake ..
      1. kush62
        kush62 14 January 2018 17: 19
        +8
        Svarog Today, 16:14 ↑ New
        He does not discuss religious matters. He wants communism and the Soviet past. Because he has already been informed of the frenzied popularity of Grudinin and the Communist Party.

        After 18 of March we learn about wild popularity laughing
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 14 January 2018 17: 45
          13
          Quote: kush62
          After 18 of March we learn about wild popularity

          No, well, they’ll draw him how it should be possible ... All my entourage are 72 people, everyone will vote for Grudinin.
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          2. kush62
            kush62 14 January 2018 18: 32
            +1
            Svarog Today, 17:45 PM ↑
            No, well, they’ll draw him how it should be possible ... All my entourage are 72 people, everyone will vote for Grudinin.

            I would add, all 72 people sitting in the elected headquarters of Grudinin laughing
        2. albert
          albert 14 January 2018 18: 57
          +3
          Quote: kush62
          After 18 of March we learn about wild popularity

          Ha, Saddam also had a rating of 93%. What, did it help him?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 January 2018 19: 08
            +2
            Russia is not Iraq and Putin is not Saddam - so that will help.
          2. Dart2027
            Dart2027 14 January 2018 20: 22
            +1
            Quote: albert
            Saddam also had a rating of 93%

            He did not have nuclear weapons.
      2. spirit
        spirit 14 January 2018 17: 32
        +6
        A bit of humor in the tape, GDP will soon tell and not so laughing
      3. friend of animals
        friend of animals 14 January 2018 17: 41
        +3
        For communism, it was necessary to fight for the collapse of the union. And Grudinin is simply fresher than Zyuganov, but the Communist Party’s cause is still dead.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 14 January 2018 18: 23
          +7
          Quote: friend of animals
          For communism, it was necessary to fight for the collapse of the union. And Grudinin is simply fresher than Zyuganov, but the Communist Party’s cause is still dead.

          Why do you think so? In the United States, among young people, they conducted a survey on the subject of what state structure would you like to live with? 74% For socialism. So the ideas of socialism are very much alive ..
          1. friend of animals
            friend of animals 14 January 2018 18: 40
            0
            As they say, who in his youth was not a socialist, he does not have a heart. Socialism can be understood in different ways, they hardly plan to build communism.
      4. da Vinci
        da Vinci 14 January 2018 18: 13
        +1
        The same topic in the PRC: under the guise of comedy, children of party functionaries have fun as heirs to Arab sheikhs! negative
        1. Stas Snezhin
          Stas Snezhin 14 January 2018 19: 03
          0
          And Zapashny didn’t speak yet
          about this ..? )))
      5. _person_
        _person_ 15 January 2018 00: 20
        +3
        Briefly about what really was announced GDP in this message - see my comment above.

        GDP has long proved everything to everyone, and not by demagogy, but by deed.
        Already at least for the fact that he managed to assemble a country that, due to the betrayal and licking of our political elites before the West, de facto ceased to exist (unless on paper this had yet to be recorded and the next show of the parade of sovereignty of a number of subjects of the Russian Federation had not yet taken place) , as well as the end of the civil war in the Caucasus, a monument can already be put in life.

        And about all the other achievements, I will say one thing - remember how Russia was treated in the world and how it was considered with her and her opinion in the late 90s and early 2000s and how it is now. No solutions can be implemented at the global level without our participation. Is it possible to spoil us with sanctions and all kinds of "independent" "investigations" of the IOC, but by and large it is all an attempt to influence the domestic political situation in Russia, and from this level to influence our accommodativeness in the foreign political arena.

        And even without taking into account the various purely positive dynamics of various "statistical" indicators, the above is the most obvious indicator of Russia's success in restoring its economic, military and political potential and gaining state sovereignty in the full sense of the word.

        Now, think for a moment, who are you going to bet on? At the Communist Party - a miserable legacy of the same "elite" party democracy, which, starting in 1953, surrendered the interests of our country, simultaneously pouring mud on comrade I.V. Stalin, and blaming all their sins on the dead man, and as a result, those who sold / sold our state and all compatriots for a ghostly opportunity to enter the elite of the West?
        The oligarch, who was put forward by this party in the person of the Communist Party? That is, you yourself are opposed to the "bunch of thieves", offer to support a representative of this very bunch, just because they showed you a cool marketing of the farm named after Lenin and put pressure on nostalgic notes about the alleged return to the bright past?
        For a person who doesn’t even have his own program, he simply "built in" under the Communist Party program. "Ready to subscribe to every word in it." Is that an independent manager? Do we need such a head of state?
        The one who was supported by Zyuganov, who lacked the courage and political will to lead the country after winning the 1996 election? When the population by a majority vote supported precisely the “representative” of the so-called “communist” ideology, having plenty to eat at the head of the “Yeltsin family”.
        The multimillionaire Zyuganov?

        And after that you will tell us about how badly you live in Russia and about our state system, supporting the promotion of these nouveau riche to the presidency?

        Look at least the transmission of Solovyov with Grudinin. With all my skepticism towards Solovyov’s program and to himself, he smeared Grudinin, the latter could not really answer the main question of who Grudinina is — an independent politician or a Cossack sent by a party democracy. However, no adequate answer was ever given to any of the questions asked, which clearly characterizes the quality of such a manager. Leasing land for the construction of shopping and entertainment centers is certainly a very complex type of business, in which only "very competent managers" can succeed in the territories adjacent to Moscow.

        I am not saying that other parties in our country are better than the Communist Party, unfortunately today everything that is written above about the Communist Party is fair to say about other parties, be it EdRo, LDPR, and all the rest.

        But, if you are genuinely not indifferent to the fate of Russia - take a little time, see for yourself the following quite informative issue:

        "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IobYsp-yJGA&t
        = 4623s. "

        And to 72 your friends show it for thought. Dig the information yourself, weigh everything, discuss critically, there is still time before the election.

        Grudinin is not even being pushed to these elections; he is being promoted to the next. Now this “comrade” is needed in order to put sticks in the wheels of Russia too rapidly rising from its knees with GDP at the head, and first of all, Grudinin’s nomination is aimed precisely at knocking out the most patriotic electorate who could support the incumbent president, making him uncompromising a figure for our indiscriminate "elite" and untie our hands for further personnel cleansing, consolidating current achievements and further development of Russia.
    7. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 January 2018 16: 21
      10
      Quote: Altona
      Why did he suddenly decide to speculate on religious matters?


      And what does he not tell the truth? For us, Lenin was a shrine. And the Communists, with their shrine, acted as Christians did for centuries, copied cancer, crypt, etc. Only here, do not apply to these relics.
      1. sapporo1959
        sapporo1959 14 January 2018 16: 54
        +7
        So what's the difference? Then they worshiped Lenin, now I cut down the foundation of all the foundations. There used to be a drummer of labor in honor, now a tradesman and speculator beautifully named a businessman. Lenin was made a mausoleum now for Yeltsin. And I give a guarantee that as soon as he dies, the same will come up with a warm offer to put him in the mausoleum as a lifelong lifter of Russians from their knees. Only he and no one else if not even here to read which.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 14 January 2018 17: 14
          +6
          Quote: sapporo1959
          Then they worshiped Lenin, now I am ruble

          Do you personally worship the ruble?
          1. sapporo1959
            sapporo1959 14 January 2018 19: 19
            +5
            Well, as a Russian pensioner, I would be glad to bow to the ruble, but the government, while protecting me from these evil thoughts, amuses me mainly with upcoming imperialism, which, as it began to attack from the 17th year of the last century, is still coming, well and in the light of new trends, “how hard it is for the Ukrainians,” well, the victorious offensive of our army on the next accumulation of Assad’s enemies. Well, during breaks it’s the Olympics, the championships, or the stadiums at the cost of the latest American aircraft carriers ...
    8. lopvlad
      lopvlad 14 January 2018 16: 28
      +7
      He himself is a primitive copy of Christ.


      we are all primitive copies of Christ and the more we merge into a “civilized Western society” the more we fall into primitivism.
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 14 January 2018 23: 31
        0
        But Cho, I apologize, before Christ, people, Cho ?, wasn’t it?
        1. didra
          didra 15 January 2018 02: 29
          0
          Hello Tambourine. Christ is the new Adam. So consider that after Adam this is the first perfect person. If Cho.)))
    9. RUSS
      RUSS 14 January 2018 17: 50
      +5
      Quote: Altona
      Why did he suddenly decide to speculate on religious matters? He himself is a primitive copy of Christ.

      Putin used to compare communism with Christianity, I don’t know that now everyone is in a rage
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 14 January 2018 18: 04
        +2
        Quote: RUSS
        Putin used to compare communism with Christianity, I don’t know that now everyone is in a rage

        Are the Communists offended? And I would be offended if I were a communist.
        1. oldzek
          oldzek 14 January 2018 18: 14
          +2
          an amazing thing-a man asked to bury him next to his mother, and was put on display. almost a hundred years. I would be offended. And he would be interested if he knew in advance?
    10. sir_obs
      sir_obs 14 January 2018 18: 32
      +2
      primitive copy of Christ.

      Judging by everything, you, too, are someone's primitive copy, you certainly do not reach Christ.
    11. dSK
      dSK 14 January 2018 20: 08
      +1
      There were such very tough atheistic years when destroyed priests, destroyed temples. But at the same time they created a new religion. Communist ideology, it is very similar to Christianity, in fact: freedom, equality, fraternity, justice - all this is embedded in the Holy Scriptures, it is all there. And the code of the builder of communism? This is sublimation, it’s just such a primitive excerpt from the Bible, they didn’t come up with anything new,

      There are no guarantees that the rabid militant atheists, the atheists, will not repeat, if they again seize power.
      1. dSK
        dSK 14 January 2018 20: 35
        +1
        Look, Lenin was placed in the mausoleum. How does this differ from the relics of the saints for the Orthodox, but simply for Christians? When they say to me that there is no, there is no such tradition in Christianity, well, no, go to Athos, look, there are holy relics there, and here too there are holy relics,

        The imperishable relics of the "saints of God" the Lord God keeps from destruction, and the body of Lenin without formalin and other chemicals, worms would be eaten in a month. They go to the mazolas like a museum, to gawk at the "relic", to the miraculous relics - in the hope of real help, healing. hi
        1. lopvlad
          lopvlad 16 January 2018 09: 04
          +2
          The imperishable relics of the "saints of God" the Lord God keeps from destruction


          incorruptibility of relics is not a sign of their holiness. This is the official opinion of the Russian Orthodox Church.
          1. dSK
            dSK 16 January 2018 13: 53
            0
            Hello "rr"!
            Quote: lopvlad
            This is the official opinion of the Russian Orthodox Church.
            Flood. Where is the reference?
            1. lopvlad
              lopvlad 18 January 2018 17: 26
              +1
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мощи#Нетленность_мо
              cabbage

              At the initiative of the eastern patriarchs, the question of the imperishability of relics was the subject of discussion at the Great Moscow Cathedral [41] [44]. The Grand Moscow Cathedral adopted a decree saying [45] that if a person’s incorruptible body was found, then no one should honor this person as a saint without reliable evidence and conciliar determination; since the bodies of many people remain imperishable not from holiness, but because these people died under a bishop or priestly oath (curse); or remain incorrupt due to the fact that these people have committed crimes against the divine, sacred, rules and law. A man whose relics remain incorruptible can be revered as a saint only if this is determined by the Council of Bishops.
    12. iouris
      iouris 15 January 2018 00: 59
      +1
      He decided to speculate on scientific communism. But, it seems, he did not attend these lectures.
      1. Galaktionych
        Galaktionych 15 January 2018 18: 37
        +1
        Quote: iouris
        He decided to speculate on scientific communism. But, it seems, he did not attend these lectures.

        He generally skipped lectures at the University. With Arkasha Rottenberg steamed.
    13. Saburov
      Saburov 15 January 2018 05: 27
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      Why did he suddenly decide to speculate on religious matters? He himself is a primitive copy of Christ.


      The elections are soon, and to ... sit down and eat a fish ... it is necessary to please the Communists and the monarchists and the opportunists ...
    14. Rey_ka
      Rey_ka 15 January 2018 07: 59
      +2
      Primitive comparison. You still do not understand the essence of Christianity
  2. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 15: 54
    +5
    Quote: Chertt
    Uh ... Dear, easier .... right now all the believers tensed

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    The site administration tensed rather. I specifically put them such a plug. They will punish me in the evening for such a thought crime. laughing laughing
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 14 January 2018 15: 57
      +3
      With such stars, you can afford some liberties laughing
      1. Slovak
        Slovak 14 January 2018 16: 05
        +2
        With such a flag, a lot of clever people open their mouths out of business, does Boris take an example?
  3. askort154
    askort154 14 January 2018 15: 57
    14
    Any government needs leverage to control the wards. The most effective, in addition to power, is ideological, and it does not matter what it is called. I agree with the GDP.
  4. Observer2014
    Observer2014 14 January 2018 16: 01
    +9
    Putin compared communism with Christianity, and Lenin’s mausoleum with the repository of the relics of saints.
    And Putin himself with whom to compare? With the Antichrist belay repeat
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    2. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 18: 39
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      Putin compared communism with Christianity, and Lenin’s mausoleum with the repository of the relics of saints.
      And Putin himself with whom to compare? With the Antichrist belay repeat

      No, not quite ... So, a vassal of the Western elites.
  5. Masya masya
    Masya masya 14 January 2018 16: 02
    +9
    Caesarea is Caesarean, but God is God ... and there is no need to equalize ...
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 14 January 2018 16: 41
      +4
      plus for the verses in the profile.
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  7. anjey
    anjey 14 January 2018 16: 04
    +5
    I agree with the GDP, everything is intertwined and religion and politics, a good example is an official martyr recognized by the Russian Orthodox Church .... although opinions differ regarding him ...
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 January 2018 16: 29
      +4
      Quote: anjey
      , a good example Nikolay || is an official martyr recognized by the Russian Orthodox Church.

      Not a Great Martyr - Glorify as a martyr in the host of new martyrs and confessors of the Russian Tsar's family: Emperor Nicholas II, Empress Alexandra, Tsarevich Alexy, Grand Dukes Olga, Tatiana, Mary and Anastasia ”
      But I don’t understand why the emperor if he denied
      1. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 14 January 2018 17: 06
        +2
        Quote: Vadivak
        But I don’t understand why the emperor if he denied

        How the former emperor tortured Nicholas II. And it was precisely for this that they killed that he was an emperor, and not for the fact that he renounced it.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 14 January 2018 17: 22
          +2
          Quote: Sergei Medvedev
          How the former emperor tortured Nicholas II.


          Tortured just as the former, and remembered as regal
        2. zoolu350
          zoolu350 14 January 2018 19: 08
          0
          And how did they torture Nicholas No. 2, let me clarify?
          1. Sergey Medvedev
            Sergey Medvedev 15 January 2018 00: 17
            0
            Quote: zoolu350
            And how did they torture Nicholas No. 2, let me clarify?

            There are many versions. Both official and others. According to the official, his whole family was killed before his eyes. All the children. This is not torture in your opinion? Think nothing special? Want to be in his place?
            1. zoolu350
              zoolu350 15 January 2018 03: 35
              0
              So, according to the recollections of the performers, they were simply eliminated all at once. This Russian Orthodox Church is ready to voice versions that they tortured him with fire and other things.
              1. Sergey Medvedev
                Sergey Medvedev 15 January 2018 22: 30
                0
                Quote: zoolu350
                So, according to the recollections of the performers, they were simply eliminated all at once. This Russian Orthodox Church is ready to voice versions that they tortured him with fire and other things.

                Well yes. Eliminate, this is not the same as killing. And which company do you belong to? Zulu shamanic tomtoms?
                1. zoolu350
                  zoolu350 17 January 2018 06: 57
                  0
                  I am a specific babist, with experience. I am not a member of any closed joint stock company such as the Russian Orthodox Church, KTSV, IST, IShT, EII, I have my own IP on them.
                  1. Sergey Medvedev
                    Sergey Medvedev 17 January 2018 08: 35
                    0
                    Quote: zoolu350
                    I am a specific babist, with experience. I am not a member of any closed joint stock company such as the Russian Orthodox Church, KTSV, IST, IShT, EII, I have my own IP on them.

                    Baptist? Clear. Network religion. Each village has its own shaman (preacher).
                    1. zoolu350
                      zoolu350 17 January 2018 13: 01
                      +1
                      Quote: Sergey Medvedev
                      Baptist? Clear. Network religion. Each village has its own shaman (preacher).

                      Not a Baptist, but a BAB TIST and powerful MEMBERS of our most righteous religion, there are millions.
      2. didra
        didra 15 January 2018 02: 39
        +1
        The Romanovs were elected to the kingdom at the popular and omnipotent Zemsky Sobor, and legally they can be removed from the throne only in this way (no abdication in the presence of one and a half people is provided for by the procedure). So strictly speaking, the Romanovs are now the ruling dynasty in Russia.
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 15 January 2018 03: 40
          0
          Well, the decision of the Yekaterinburg Council on the liquidation of the family of the former emperor was confirmed by the corresponding directive from Moscow, so everything is legally correct. The Romanovs are now no one in Russia, no matter how the oligarchy of the Russian Federation puffed up.
        2. lopvlad
          lopvlad 16 January 2018 09: 34
          +2
          and legally they can be removed from the throne only in this way


          and that the Bolsheviks forced Nicholas 2 to abdicate, or was the provisional government recognized by the legitimate West still? in favor of whom Nicholas 2 abdicated?
          After the one to whom Nicholas 2 transferred power, the monarchy also renounced in Russia ceased to exist and the Bolsheviks had nothing to do with it since they took power later toppling not the tsar but the interim government.

          Romanov-elected to the kingdom at the popular and omnipotent Zemsky Cathedral


          only the first ruler from the dynasty, and the rest, the ruling monarch himself appointed and transferred power to them personally by his decree, order, testament. So about the insignificance and illegality of the king’s signature and his right to transfer power, it is better not to transfer power.

          And legally, and even more so, in fact, the Bolsheviks did not execute the tsar by overthrowing them from the throne, but shot a simple representative of the nobility with their family.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 14 January 2018 16: 46
      11
      great martyr
      What great martyr is he? Have few people been killed? Emperor Paul1 was betrayed and killed, but not a saint. Alexander 2, the Narodnaya Volya bombers blew up a bomb; And this one, like Judas, renounced and was immediately holy.
      Wait, Putin will serve another term and will make Yeltsin a hero-liberator.
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  8. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 16: 04
    +6
    Quote: Observer2014
    And Putin himself with whom to compare? With the antichrest

    --------------------------
    I tweeted and wrote "he himself admitted that the Antichrist." In general, Putin speaks very stereotyped, as if he sometimes opens and quotes his notes on political training. Or Korotich reread magazine.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 14 January 2018 16: 47
      +3
      Korotich reread magazine.
      I’ve got it and repeats it.
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    4. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 18: 41
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: Observer2014
      And Putin himself with whom to compare? With the antichrest

      --------------------------
      I tweeted and wrote "he himself admitted that the Antichrist." In general, Putin speaks very stereotyped, as if he sometimes opens and quotes his notes on political training. Or Korotich reread magazine.


      Putin reads all his speeches from a piece of paper, the press service and speechwriters wrote them to him.
  9. Million
    Million 14 January 2018 16: 08
    10
    The pre-election chatter has begun
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  11. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 14 January 2018 16: 11
    +3
    In Christianity, indeed, there is no such tradition. Find in the Bible where Christ speaks of the need to worship the bones of dead people? Rather, it migrated from paganism; there are more such distortions in the church now than true Christianity. So Lenin is in the mausoleum of the same opera.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 January 2018 16: 54
      +6
      Quote: _Jack_
      In Christianity, indeed, there is no such tradition.

      The Fifth Carthage Cathedral decided that no temple should be built except on the relics of a martyr, who relied on under the altar. Finally, veneration of the holy relics was enshrined in the Seventh Ecumenical Council
      1. _Jack_
        _Jack_ 14 January 2018 19: 58
        +1
        And what do you think of all these "Carthaginian cathedrals"? A bunch of people gathered, often far from being righteous, and let's change the Bible in your own way, and one cathedral accepts some stupidity, cancels the next. It was from there that this re-initiation of Christianity went to the needs of the authorities, etc. etc. The only universally recognized source is the Bible. Nowhere is there such nonsense in it.
    2. zoolu350
      zoolu350 14 January 2018 19: 11
      +2
      ALL religions need a fetish, even Islam, there is a Kaaba.
  12. Herculesic
    Herculesic 14 January 2018 16: 12
    +4
    Vladimir Vladimirovich, what about the masses of shot monks who were destroyed as soon as the revolution of 17 years in the country began? Your comparison is wrong!
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 14 January 2018 16: 40
      +4
      Quote: Herkulesich
      but what about the masses of shot monks who were destroyed as soon as the revolution of 17

      An ordinary religious war, in the spirit of a showdown by Catholics and Huguenots.
      1. zoolu350
        zoolu350 14 January 2018 19: 17
        +1
        Somewhat more complicated, because the ideological level of consciousness is higher than the religious. At one time, Abrahamic religions, relying on church organization and systematic propaganda, suppressed pagan mythology, so this is a process of development of society.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 14 January 2018 20: 19
          0
          Quote: zoolu350
          for the ideological level of consciousness is higher than the religious

          Human biology has remained unchanged for thousands of years, so all the complications, one way or another, are based on what happened before, adjusted for local specifics.
          1. zoolu350
            zoolu350 14 January 2018 20: 23
            0
            So all the same, human biology becomes more complicated, because hundreds of thousands of years ago, man was much more like a monkey, now I eat it.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 14 January 2018 20: 28
              +2
              Quote: zoolu350
              for hundreds of thousands of years ago, man was much more like a monkey

              I’m not sure that those who lived then can be attributed to our biological species.
    2. cost 75
      cost 75 14 January 2018 16: 55
      +3
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Vladimir Vladimirovich, what about the masses of shot monks who were destroyed as soon as the revolution of 17 years in the country began? Your comparison is wrong!

      But what about the Inquisition?
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 14 January 2018 23: 36
        0
        Yes, yes ... in fact ... Until now, no one has answered the question; Giordano Bruno fuel or scientist?
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  14. APASUS
    APASUS 14 January 2018 16: 17
    +5
    Something Uncle Vova got into the wrong topic:
    “Repay the Caesarean Caesarean and the God of God”
    and you will be judged according to your merits!
  15. captain
    captain 14 January 2018 16: 18
    11
    How many are red-flagged. Looks like they shot down Putin, just like in October 1917. Let the guys try, maybe if you win the chairman of the collective farm, your efforts will be counted. The assistant harvester corrected the country, let the chairman correct it now.
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    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 January 2018 16: 43
      +4
      Quote: captain
      The assistant harvester corrected the country,


      Judah he, and bury him, the best German of 1990 in the Nazi cemetery
    3. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 14 January 2018 17: 08
      +6
      Quote: captain
      How many red flag

      And, you, like a goby, rush at all red? Putin, it’s not like blue blood, either.
    4. zoolu350
      zoolu350 14 January 2018 19: 23
      +4
      Well, if under the chairman of the collective farm of all the slaves of the Russian oligarchy, neovlasovites, boulokhrusty, adherents of KhPP and edolubov send to the uranium mines, the construction of the monorail to the Magadan and the Trans-Sakhalin tunnel, and the owners of the Fed and their slaves (Zionists (fascists) b) then let rule over health.
    5. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 14 January 2018 23: 37
      0
      Well, Duc, along with Diman, they cut it on combines, if that ...
    6. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 18: 43
      +1
      Quote: captain
      How many are red-flagged. Looks like they shot down Putin, just like in October 1917. Let the guys try, maybe if you win the chairman of the collective farm, your efforts will be counted. The assistant harvester corrected the country, let the chairman correct it now.

      Well, for 18 years now, Sobchak’s assistant has been in power, his loyal portfolio holder rules. What it led to, we all see well.
  16. Herculesic
    Herculesic 14 January 2018 16: 18
    +6
    I express my opinion, and I fundamentally disagree with Putin's words! I don’t know who and why advised him to touch on this topic, but everything was done just wrong! The church has both faith and ideology, and Lenin, with his associates, denied and suppressed faith! The Bolsheviks, the only thing that had this ideology, and that is cannibalistic, in the beginning!
    1. karish
      karish 14 January 2018 16: 25
      +5
      Quote: Herkulesich
      The church has both faith and ideology

      Ideology? What is the ideology?
      Quote: Herkulesich
      and Lenin with the environment denied and suppressed faith

      They just cultivated faith, only God they had their own.

      Quote: Herkulesich
      The Bolsheviks, the only thing that had this ideology, and that is cannibalistic, in the beginning!

      lol ideology?
      “I am a little girl, playing and singing. I didn’t see Stalin, but I love him. ”
      1. Maz
        Maz 14 January 2018 17: 56
        +6
        Religion has always been written by the power of the holding and the most educated layers for themselves and for themselves. The goal is power, the convenience of leadership, and the main causal sequence - like: God commanded, and a vision came to us, and a miracle happened and a causal relationship came .... The one that is being built not in the right place will come to mind in a very specific way. If we drive these things from a young age into the heads of youths, then we get a formed crowd of parishioners, for whom the dogmas of the church are higher than reasonable principles of behavior and laws. And not involved in the cult and the parish - worse than animals. Doesn’t resemble anything? The technology is worked out, it all depends on the content laid in the brain.
    2. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 14 January 2018 17: 35
      +8
      Quote: Herkulesich
      The Bolsheviks, the only thing that had this ideology, and that is cannibalistic, in the beginning!

      It is written under the "Bolshevik" flag. Do you feel like an ideological saboteur? wink
      1. Voyager
        Voyager 14 January 2018 23: 04
        0
        he caught on while reading the comment laughing
  17. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 16: 22
    11
    Quote: captain
    How many are red-flagged. Looks like they shot down Putin, just like in October 1917. Let the guys try, maybe if you win the chairman of the collective farm, your efforts will be counted. The assistant harvester corrected the country, let the chairman correct it now.

    ------------------------------
    For 18 years, probably something could have been done more than Krymnash and the people did not hurt. As for Grudinin, no one is deceived, Putin and Grudinin are from one bourgeois field of strawberries. And you, Mr. Rotmister, is it not time for a steamer to Istanbul? Or are you hoping to join the Volunteer Army?
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 January 2018 16: 57
      +9
      Quote: Altona
      For 18 years, you could probably do something more than Krymnash

      Yes, for this alone the descendants will gratefully recall. Do you understand what Crimea is? What is territorial acquisition in general? The Chinese are building islands
      1. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO 14 January 2018 18: 24
        +2
        Return through a national referendum and build the island, as the Chinese-difference you understand? smile
        PS .. I have never dill
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    3. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 18: 45
      0
      Quote: Altona

      For 18 years, probably something could have been done more than Krymnash and the people did not hurt. As for Grudinin, no one is deceived, Putin and Grudinin are from one bourgeois field of strawberries. And you, Mr. Rotmister, is it not time for a steamer to Istanbul? Or are you hoping to join the Volunteer Army?

      No, Mr. Rotmistr hopes to join EdRo, so he is trying ...
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    1. karish
      karish 14 January 2018 16: 30
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: karish
      Ideology? What is the ideology?

      ----------------------------
      Oppochki, forerunners of all religions and even scientific communism have voiced their voices. Wallet, wallet! Which wallet? hi laughing laughing

      Get hungry on the topic, that is, what can I say?
  19. turbris
    turbris 14 January 2018 16: 30
    +2
    Quote: Altona
    Why did he suddenly decide to speculate on religious matters? He himself is a primitive copy of Christ.

    And you look at yourself in the mirror - you will see your primitive copy of an intelligent person.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 14 January 2018 16: 42
      11
      Quote: turbris
      And you look at yourself in the mirror - you will see your primitive copy of an intelligent person.

      That is, the cult of Putin’s personality has gone unnoticed for you? :))) Then ... it’s better not to look in the mirror at all. You won’t see anything good there.
  20. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 14 January 2018 16: 33
    +4
    Communist ideology, it is very similar to Christianity, in fact: freedom, equality, fraternity, justice - all this is embedded in the Holy Scriptures, it is all there. And the code of the builder of communism? This is sublimation, it’s just such a primitive excerpt from the Bible, they didn’t come up with anything new

    A parallel that is extremely deceitful and offensive to communism. In communism, a lot of everything that was not in the bible There are no words, only interjections.
    Although, in fairness, here Putin only repeated the words of Zyuganov
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 14 January 2018 16: 43
      +4
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      In communism, a lot of everything that was not in the bible

      Any ideology is in some way a religious cult and communism is no exception.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 14 January 2018 17: 40
        +6
        Quote: Dart2027
        and communism is no exception.

        I do not argue, but it does not follow from this that communism is a tracing-paper from Christianity.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 14 January 2018 18: 44
          +1
          Well, Putin did not say that. Here it’s different - all people have the same structure, so the basic methods of controlling them do not essentially change, and in this sense, Lenin’s mummification is indeed the creation of an object of worship.
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 14 January 2018 17: 10
      +6
      On this occasion, at the time, none other than V.I. Lenin. In his article "Socialism and Religion". There is nothing to add.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 14 January 2018 17: 39
        +4
        Honestly, I, as a Christian, do not completely agree with this article, because I do not see insurmountable reasons why a Christian cannot be a communist. Of course, the ideas of communism are much wider than Christian ones, but if we take the very idea of ​​Christianity (and not how those in power used it), then there are probably no insurmountable contradictions with communism in it.
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 14 January 2018 17: 53
          +6
          Andrey, frankly, this is not my topic, and I consider myself not entitled to argue on these issues. I do not want to seem like an amateur. But I remember the contrasts from school: on the one hand - “God's servant”, on the other - “we are not slaves, we are not slaves.” Although a little simplistic, but this is my position in life. That is how I was raised.
          I also do not think that the former member of the CPSU, Comrade Putin, V.V. so well versed in theology that he considers himself entitled to make statements on this subject.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 14 January 2018 18: 12
            +5
            Quote: Reserve officer
            But I remember the contrasts from school: on the one hand - “God's servant”, on the other - “we are not slaves, we are not slaves”

            The same thing, because I studied at a Soviet school. I just want to say that religion, including Christianity, is the same Kalashnikov assault rifle with which you can protect your homeland, or you can shoot innocent people. Moreover, many pre-revolutionary worshipers (they no longer had anything to do with God) were much closer to the second than to the first. A lot of people from those whom I knew and who managed to live at that time (but who had not been with us for a long time) believed in God, but the priesthood of those times did not carry over to the spirit.
            The sad thing is that today the Russian Orthodox Church is rapidly rolling there, and very many in it serve not God, but mammon. Although I personally know those who are quite the opposite. Then - let me take my leave! hi
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              Svarog51 15 January 2018 05: 14
              0
              Andrey, my respect hi
              The same thing, because I studied at a Soviet school. I just want to say that religion, including Christianity, is the same Kalashnikov assault rifle with which you can protect your homeland, or you can shoot innocent people.
              good
              A little off topic, but from the same "opera". A look at a problem from the past.
      2. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 14 January 2018 17: 55
        +2
        Quote: Reserve officer
        On this occasion, at the time, none other than V.I. Lenin. In his article "Socialism and Religion".

        Interestingly, Vladimir Putin read this article? It seems like it should have been. But ... not sure wink
        But, the fact that most of the authors of the comments have not read is sure.
  21. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 16: 34
    +2
    Quote: karish
    Get hungry on the topic, that is, what can I say?

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    Did you say something on the topic?
  22. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 16: 36
    +8
    Quote: turbris
    And you look at yourself in the mirror - you will see your primitive copy of an intelligent person.

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    I do not make such "high-wise" statements to the press. Comparing incomparable things. Lenin was buried in the Mausoleum as the head of state, these are the honors shown to him. And not the "preservation of relics."
    1. oldzek
      oldzek 14 January 2018 19: 34
      0
      moreover, his opinion (testament) was not taken into account. The man is nothing, and our collective collective is everything.
  23. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 14 January 2018 16: 43
    +5
    Yeah! Before the elections, you’re still not getting up to speed.
  24. parusnik
    parusnik 14 January 2018 16: 45
    13
    Why don’t you say, but Lenin is the founder of a state whose legacy they are trying to trample, spit upon, and still use the fruits of this state and cannot possibly plunder ...
    Communist ideology, it is very similar to Christianity, in fact: freedom, equality, fraternity, justice - all this is embedded in the Holy Scriptures, it is all there.
    ... And if so, what does modern Russia, according to the principles of Scripture, not build a state ...
  25. groks
    groks 14 January 2018 17: 08
    +6
    Nothing new at all. But the guarantor started changing shoes a bit late.
  26. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 14 January 2018 17: 11
    +6
    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: User
    This is some kind of quiet horror. To compare communism, where people are equal and free, and Christianity, which supported feudalism and the slave system throughout its existence, it is from God. It's just no words

    Christianity encourages a person to be a person, and not a beast when this condition is met, with any system you will be happy. But communism happened the same as with Christ, Judas betrayed him from among the apostles, only their name was legion

    Oh, how does it mean that good philanthropic affairs are attributed to the canons of Christianity? But the Jews repeat it, the Muslims, the Buddhists repeat it. It may be enough to engage in obscurantism and idolatry, and truly engage in caring for your neighbor, and not produce billionaires under beautiful phrases? 1% of wealthy Russians account for 71% of all personal assets. In the USA - 37%, in China - 32%, in Europe - 17%. The global average is 46%, i.e. our rich have exceeded the world figures by 1,6 times!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 January 2018 17: 27
      +2
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      .Maybe enough to engage in obscurantism and idolatry, and really take care of your neighbor, and not produce billionaires under beautiful phrases?

      Who are the billionaires? Tortured people in the name of Christ? Who are you talking about?
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 14 January 2018 18: 40
        10
        But there weren’t any other ideas tortured in the name of faith. Are the Communists, the Red Army non-partisan tortured no longer people? I’m talking about whom and the like. They offer a good alternative to us. You either believe in God or in communism, but he is still Christianity. The works of Marx, Engels, Lenin, heresy ?????????????????????
        1. oldzek
          oldzek 14 January 2018 19: 46
          +1
          by the way, one of these, namely the second on the right, seems to be already dead.
  27. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 14 January 2018 17: 14
    0
    Quote: Teberii
    The elections are soon, you need to win over the elderly electorate, you don’t have any money in retirement. And here we are talking about burying Lenin.

    There is pension money, you just have to shake the oligarchs and millionaires. But he will not shake himself. The mausoleum is a ziggurat that collects energy from visitors. Take a close look at its architecture.
  28. Maz
    Maz 14 January 2018 17: 24
    +5
    All religions built their Talmuds on the dreams and aspirations of the common people.
  29. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 17: 44
    +2
    Quote: groks
    Nothing new at all. But the guarantor started changing shoes a bit late.

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    86% rating did not have to draw yourself.
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 18: 49
      0
      Quote: Altona

      86% rating did not have to draw yourself.

      As Igor Strelkov ironically remarked, if sociological "research" is carried out at the direction of APeshechka, then soon the number of Putin’s supporters will exceed the country's population :))
  30. cedar
    cedar 14 January 2018 18: 00
    +2
    Quote: kush62
    Svarog Today, 16:14 ↑ New
    He does not discuss religious matters. He wants communism and the Soviet past. Because he has already been informed of the frenzied popularity of Grudinin and the Communist Party.

    After 18 of March we learn about wild popularity laughing


    Why wait? Once the people "strawberries" wanted, and even mad ...
    Get and see, to the root ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 14 January 2018 18: 20
      +9
      Quote: cedar
      Why wait? Once the people "strawberries" wanted, and even mad ...
      Get and see, to the root ...

      And what is there to see? Do you know that even the state in our country keeps money in the USA? And Grudinin, in one of his interviews, long before the election, explained why he was doing this. We all who have money keep it over the hill, they don’t trust our banks .. So what's the point of seeing it? Do you understand that?
    2. Svetlana
      Svetlana 15 January 2018 12: 17
      +2
      [quote = cedar] [quote = kush62] Svarog Today, 16: 14 ↑ New
      He does not discuss religious matters. He wants communism and the Soviet past. Because he has already been informed of the frenzied popularity of Grudinin and the Communist Party.

      After 18 of March we learn about wild popularity laughing[/ Quote]

      Why wait? Once the people "strawberries" wanted, and even mad ...
      Get and see, to the root ...
      And who would doubt that now dirt will pour from everywhere? They have all the media in their hands, funds from the state budget - Sing ditties, grandmother-hedgehog, Sing, don’t talk ...
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  32. da Vinci
    da Vinci 14 January 2018 18: 11
    +3
    I liked the GDP icons from myself! winked
  33. da Vinci
    da Vinci 14 January 2018 18: 19
    +4
    Let the GDP talk about the untouchables: Chubais, Medvedev, Smerdyukov, Vasilyeva and others like them! angry
  34. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 14 January 2018 18: 21
    +2
    There, they didn’t start to do the extension to the mausoleum yet ?? wassat
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 18: 51
      0
      Quote: Sergeant71
      There, they didn’t start to do the extension to the mausoleum yet ?? wassat

      Why at all? Putin, as a halachic Jew, will be buried in the Jewish cemetery of St. Petersburg. They say that the land there has already been bought out and is being improved.
  35. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 January 2018 18: 22
    0
    He still has to solve this problem. And like any sacred problem, the presence of Lenin in the Mausoleum and the cemetery near the Kremlin wall - it can split society ... So they try - to connect what happened - with the Christian tradition ... Perhaps this is the right approach
  36. k174oun7
    k174oun7 14 January 2018 18: 23
    +1
    We choose the GDP and do not lose. He entered the age of wisdom at the level of King Solomon.
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 14 January 2018 20: 06
      +1
      So he has a young wife. What kind of wisdom can it be?
    2. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 18: 52
      0
      Quote: k174un7
      We choose the GDP and do not lose. He entered the age of wisdom at the level of King Solomon.

      It’s not likely that Solomon is not remembered, but old Alzheimer ...))
  37. Bypassed
    Bypassed 14 January 2018 18: 30
    +3
    Faith speak? Oh well. And how many wars were due to the fact that someone's religion is better?
    The development is driven not by a believer, limited by the canon of dogma-prohibitions, but by a doubter. If there weren’t Galileo, Bruno, Copernicus, Magellan and hundreds of others, they would still have lived under a torch on flat Earth. And so their work now allows worshipers to live in mansions, show tricks with the disappearance of objects and sneeze at everything from the window of a cool car
  38. Bypassed
    Bypassed 14 January 2018 18: 35
    +1
    Evo how. Saint in Ziggurat
    Type in search engine
    1 How much and to whom Kaiser Germany allocated for the October Revolution
    2. Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution
  39. Stas157
    Stas157 14 January 2018 18: 36
    +5
    . Communist ideology, it is very similar to Christianity, in fact: freedom, equality, fraternity, justice - all this is embedded in the Holy Scriptures
    Putin said.

    So this is only a plus for Christianity! I don’t see what he saw the problem?
    But he, in turn, would like to ask, and what is his ideology? Does anyone know this? Maybe the other way around: injustice, inequality, fraternity? This is very similar to reality, looking at what kind of abyss separates the snickering elite from the common people.
  40. Weyland
    Weyland 14 January 2018 18: 37
    +2
    Communist ideology, it is very similar to Christianity, in fact: freedom, equality, fraternity, justice - all this is embedded in the Holy Scriptures, it is all there.

    That's just it: "the devil is the monkey of God" - the anti-Christians - "communists" could only be sober-minded (especially brightly - with the mummy of Lenin am ) It is the persecution of Christianity that convinces the Red-bellied people of the devilish nature: since the Middle Ages there have been a lot of communist movements - and all under Christian slogans such as "when Adam plowed ..." - and only Marxist-Leninists am staged persecutions that are superior in scale to the Diocletians! And for what? There was no practical need for this; Fidel hi good For example, he never arranged persecution of the Church - and this did not stop him from building socialism, but rather the opposite!
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 14 January 2018 23: 50
      +1
      Well .... Adam never plowed ... Even in Paradise, he lived with God in the bosom ... It was from abundance and idleness that he began to revolutionize, for which he received a kick ...
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 15 January 2018 05: 30
        0
        He would have continued to live, but his girlfriend got a hefty curious. She listened to the snake-tempter, shook the forbidden fruit, and both received a kick. wink What am I doing? Well yes! And mine is the same, an eye and an eye are needed, no matter what it spoils. lol
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 15 January 2018 14: 01
        0
        Quote: Ace of Diamonds
        Well well .... Adam never plowed ...

        And after the expulsion from paradise? Plowed, and how!
        Actually, I thought the phrase was too well known to quote in full: "When Adam plowed and Eve spun, who then was a nobleman?" This is the slogan of the English Lollards and the German "Black Gayer Detachment", the benefit of the rhyme spin / nobleman in both languages ​​coincides:
        When Adam delved and Eve span, Who was then the gentleman?
        Als Adam grub und Eva spann, wo war denn da der Edelmann?
  41. Naputeon bonaput
    Naputeon bonaput 14 January 2018 18: 46
    +3
    Rather, communism is not Christianity but Islam resembles. Good and peaceful teaching)
    1. Evgeny Strygin
      Evgeny Strygin 14 January 2018 19: 28
      0
      thin. If you do not open the history textbook.
    2. oldzek
      oldzek 14 January 2018 19: 49
      +1
      just believing it is normal. but bigotry is scary.
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 14 January 2018 23: 50
        0
        and not to believe, is even worse ...
  42. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 14 January 2018 18: 55
    +1
    Most commentators did not understand what Vladimir Putin said about the relics of the saints, the commandments in the Bible and the Gospel, and the theft of these commandments (primitively) by the Communists from the Holy Scriptures. To see V.Putin in the guise of "neither fish nor fowl" is beneficial to someone, and after all, the Russian people are inherent in culture, and not Western, but ours, Orthodox. But many who have noted here are sick of Christianity, give them the West, but with a colorful tinge.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 14 January 2018 19: 38
      +3
      Quote: Evgenijus
      Most commentators did not understand what Vladimir Putin said about the relics of the saints, the commandments in the Bible and the Gospel, and the theft of these commandments (primitively) by the Communists from the Holy Scriptures. To see V.Putin in the guise of "neither fish nor fowl" is beneficial to someone, and after all, the Russian people are inherent in culture, and not Western, but ours, Orthodox. But many who have noted here are sick of Christianity, give them the West, but with a colorful tinge.

      Political scientist Leonid Krutakov in a conversation with the FBA “Economics Today” noted that, despite the fact that 27 years have passed since the collapse of the Soviet system, our country continues to analyze this period of Russian history.

      “Actually, what Putin wanted to say here was what he said. Millennial traditions cannot be crossed out and eliminated in such a huge country as Russia, even within the framework of revolutionary events. This cannot be crossed out either from the heads of people or from those relationships that exist in society, ”Krutakov states.
      Cultural tradition cannot be taken and crossed out
      In fact, the president here voiced the well-known thesis that, despite the state turn of 1917, in practice, our country developed in the same cultural and political direction as before the events of the October Revolution.
      Moreover, all these Bolshevik undertakings quickly came to naught, and when Moscow, under the leadership of Joseph Stalin, began to restore the Russian state, the cultural and political elements that were banned in 1917 began to return to public and state life. Sometimes directly, and sometimes in camouflaged form.
  43. zoolu350
    zoolu350 14 January 2018 18: 57
    +8
    Here is the hired manager of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation and "hobbled" for the elections are coming soon.
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 15 January 2018 18: 53
      +1
      Quote: zoolu350
      Here is the hired manager of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation and "hobbled" for the elections are coming soon.

      He has such a job ....
  44. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 19: 11
    +2
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    I remember you wrote something about a plant that does something for farming ... and it doesn't work out very well.
    Question: and the rest of the plant’s employees, too ... dabble on Twitter?

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    Factory employees produce products. Does Twitter bother you?
  45. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 19: 13
    +5
    Quote: Vadivak
    Yes, for this alone the descendants will gratefully recall. Do you understand what Crimea is? What is territorial acquisition in general? The Chinese are building islands

    ---------------------------------
    I am comparing him with Stalin and the comparison is not in favor of Putin so far.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 14 January 2018 19: 18
      +7
      Quote: Altona
      I am comparing him with Stalin and the comparison is not in favor of Putin so far.

      Did you try to compare boots with cucumbers?
      Also very ... grateful occupation yes
      1. zoolu350
        zoolu350 14 January 2018 20: 24
        +2
        And who are your cucumber and shoes? Stalin or Putin?
  46. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 19: 18
    +1
    Quote: sir_obs
    Judging by everything, you, too, are someone's primitive copy, you certainly do not reach Christ.

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    You stuck the word sir in your nickname. They wanted to reach the lord, or did they emphasize their own greatness with such an appeal?
  47. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 14 January 2018 19: 22
    +3
    The mausoleum of Napoleon, the mausoleum of President Grant, the mausoleum of the Taj Mahal, the necropolis in St. Sophia Cathedral, the burial in the Kivsko-Pechersk Lavra and others, etc.
    Mausoleums, tombs, barrows, pyramids ... Does anyone have any thoughts about the demolition of the Timur mausoleum in Samarkand?
  48. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 19: 23
    +3
    Quote: allaykbar
    Altona, tell us what you have achieved in 17 years, after which the acquisition of several thousand square kilometers - causes you such skepticism


    I probably don’t know something. But if anything, I’m ready to start collecting signatures in your favor for the next election.

    Already looking forward to the length of your to-do list. I hope your case fit in one post. And there will be no need to do a separate topic on the new candidate.

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    I have been working in industry for 17 years, and in a single-industry town, moreover, in the "depressed" region. Although he could "change consciousness" and frankly profit from human stupidity. I am a propagandist and reflect every spit in the direction of the USSR. I expose the hypocritical essence of the new masters of life and try to explain to people their stupidity and error.
    PS And why do you have the nickname "Allahu akbar" in Latin? Do you have such a specific green truth?
  49. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 14 January 2018 19: 23
    +4
    Quote: Altona
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    I remember you wrote something about a plant that does something for farming ... and it doesn't work out very well.
    Question: and the rest of the plant’s employees, too ... dabble on Twitter?

    ------------------------------
    Factory employees produce products. Does Twitter bother you?

    No.
    I am somewhat surprised (and amused) by the welder-blogger.
    Who later complains that the brother of the owner of the factory where he (the welder) works, "does not want to buy their products."
    Still slightly annoying is the peremptoryness with which this welder pronounces his, ahem, maxims here.
    Cognitive dissonance is, you see. wink
  50. Altona
    Altona 14 January 2018 19: 25
    +2
    Quote: Evgenijus
    Most commentators did not understand what Vladimir Putin said about the relics of the saints, about the commandments in the Bible and the Gospel, and about the theft of these commandments (primitively) by the Communists from the Holy Scriptures.

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    Most commentators already see who stole what from whom. Do not moralize here.