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In Crimea, responded to the proposal Groysman return Kiev fleet and peninsula

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Deputy Chairman of the Committee on Inter-Ethnic Relations of the Crimea State Council Yuri Hempel in an interview with RT responded to the proposal of the Prime Minister of Ukraine Vladimir Groysman to “return” the Crimea along with military equipment remaining on the peninsula.


The Ukrainian prime minister probably needs to go and check, is he a normal person or not. Today, in my opinion, Groysman and his ilk have gathered in Ukraine, who should be in a mental hospital.
- declared Gempel.

In Crimea, responded to the proposal Groysman return Kiev fleet and peninsula


According to him, the current Kiev authorities cannot “build a dialogue” and do not understand that “Crimea has become part of Russia and will never return back.”

This is a decision of the citizens themselves who live in the peninsula. There can be no way back
- underlined the parliamentarian.

Gempel added that the Russian side is ready for a dialogue with Ukraine and wants to "build partnerships and friendly relations with the neighboring state." However, positive dynamics from Kiev in this matter is not observed.

The fact that Russia is ready to transfer to Ukraine the remaining military equipment in the Crimea, including airplanes and ships, said Russian President Vladimir Putin on January 11. He noticed that she was "in a deplorable state."

But this is not our business
- said the Russian leader. He noted that the ships can be transported to Odessa for transfer to Kiev.

Ukrainian Prime Minister Vladimir Groysman responded to an offer from Russian President Vladimir Putin to return warships and aircraft from the Crimea to Kiev. According to him, Ukraine is ready to accept not only the fleet and airplanes, but also the peninsula itself "in the near future."
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  1. Dormidont
    Dormidont 13 January 2018 11: 56 New
    +7
    Groysman has a black belt in combat hutspe
    1. Rusland
      Rusland 13 January 2018 11: 59 New
      14
      Accustomed, the king of the market, began to joke.
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 13 January 2018 12: 04 New
        12
        Senya-militant joked more fun, one fence which only costs smile
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 13 January 2018 12: 09 New
          +9
          Groisman, to the rabbit, as to the moon on foot, as if not refined. lol
          1. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 13 January 2018 12: 25 New
            22
            Groysman's ethnic "roots" are immediately visible: "We accept wine and vodka dishes! You can not drain the contents!".
            Pasha, salute! hi
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 13 January 2018 12: 26 New
              +9
              Kostya, hello and with the upcoming! hi drinks
              Quote: Solomon Kane
              "We accept wine-vodka dishes! The contents can not be drained!".

              good That Yaytsenyukh, that Groysman - to both this can be attributed. lol
              1. Solomon Kane
                Solomon Kane 13 January 2018 12: 31 New
                +5
                Mutually, Pash !!! drinks good hi
              2. hrych
                hrych 13 January 2018 12: 46 New
                +5
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                That Yaytsenyukh, that Groysman - to both this can be attributed

                Happy Coming Brother !!! drinks And all forum users all the best in the New Year !!!
                And Senya, in some opinion, is not a rabbit at all, but a dog Senka-Tuzik laughing
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 13 January 2018 13: 06 New
                  +5
                  Mutually, brother Hrych !!! hi drinks
                  Quote: hrych
                  And Senya, in some opinion, is not a rabbit at all, but a dog Senka-Tuzik

                  So this wall builder is encrypted no worse than a spy. lol
                2. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 13 January 2018 15: 03 New
                  +2
                  Quote: hrych
                  And Senya, in some opinion, is not a rabbit at all, but a dog Senka-Tuzik

                  The analogy with Tsutsenyuk is not appropriate. "Senka-Tuzik", actually ours was, undercover, which the bandits killed in the first series.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 13 January 2018 17: 48 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Orionvit
                    The analogy with Tsutsenyuk is not appropriate. "Senka-Tuzik", actually ours was, undercover, which the bandits killed in the first series.

                    You watched a movie about 50 times, but you still didn’t understand that Vasya Vekshin was overwhelmed, and Senka-Tuzik was an urka, he returned and wanted to introduce Vekshin into the gang, or rather introduce him to her member.
                    Zhiglov and Vekshin says: "Senka Tuzik called! The bandits made an appointment!" ..
                    Here is a quote about how Zheglov (when he began to cut down) told everything. Senka did detector receivers. In short, the lads sold for the coil.
                    1. Orionvit
                      Orionvit 13 January 2018 18: 17 New
                      0
                      Quote: hrych
                      Zhiglov and Vekshin says: "Senka Tuzik called! The bandits made an appointment!".

                      I’m understandable, I watched it 50 times, but you’ve probably never carefully. The phrase "Senka-Tuzik called! The bandits made an appointment!", Not Vekshin told Zheglov, but Kolya Taraskin, for 4min. 50sec the movie. "Senka-Tuzik", it was the operational pseudonym of Vekshin. You have come up with some kind of leaked urku.
                      1. hrych
                        hrych 13 January 2018 18: 28 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Orionvit
                        And "Senka-Tuzik", it was the operational pseudonym of Vekshin. And you came up with some kind of leaked urku.

                        In short, watch the movie again, Vasya and Senya are not the same laughing Vekshin is an undercover operative, and Senya is an urka. Senya wanted to introduce a person to Zheglov (Vasya) with a gang member for implementation. To whom Senya did not call, he is an informant of Zheglov. Verbanul his Zheglov on the coils for the detector receiver. And Vasya Vekshin - a police officer, an officer, like Sharapov infiltrated gangs. That’s the whole difference. Not a policeman, Zheglov recruited to the coil wassat Hi Fox sent to the living, supposedly sentenced by the thieves community for cooperating with the police. And Vasya was stabbed for a long time, and the carrier, who was shot during the arrest of Fox. And do not argue, and then only disgrace laughingWe watch the movie carefully am
          2. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 13 January 2018 12: 26 New
            +9
            Rurikovich created Russia without looking back at finances. They did not have Kudrin. But it was possible, but they put it on a barrel of gunpowder - let it fly laughing
            And now they are afraid of returning the Russian lands. Like money is not enough. So they (money) are always lacking. After all, nothing has changed for hundreds of years - those living in Europe are stealing from Russia. At the moment, the land was stolen. It's time to return !!!
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 13 January 2018 12: 36 New
              +3
              Quote: Vladimir16
              Rurikovich created Russia without looking back at finances. They did not have Kudrin. But it was possible, but they put it on a barrel of gunpowder - let it fly

              Darkness. Rurikovich, were just a mercenary army, which was financed by an ordinary Duma clerk laughing That's when they passed the crucible of the Russian wives, they became tsars, and before that they were the gopop of a sub-fence. World History from Tusw Part Two fellow
              1. hrych
                hrych 13 January 2018 13: 09 New
                +3
                Quote: Tusv
                Darkness. Rurikovich, were just a mercenary army

                Vladimir Monomakh, Rurikovich, the grandson of the Emperor of the Roman Empire, conquered the princes and was prince with the Polovtsian khans and Hanuriks. Having made Russia marriages with neighbors super-dewy in essence and creating a noble elite, which included the Polovtsian. Also hiding from the Genghisids dynasty, who captured Scythia, the remaining Polovtsians went to the Poles and the nobility appeared, and the people became half Poles, i.e. Poles. The Polovtsians, of course, were of Aryan descent. The remaining "undeveloped", after dividing the Polovtsian clans by the elite of Poland, Russia and the Horde, made up the Great Don Army. And already an agreement between the Atamans and Tsars formed the Russian Empire. The treaty was shaken by the Pugachevsky uprising, but survived until the end of the Romanov dynasty.
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 13 January 2018 13: 22 New
                  +4
                  Quote: hrych
                  Vladimir Monomakh, Rurikovich, grandson of the Emperor of the Roman Empire, conquered the princes and princes with Polovtsian khans and Hanuriks

                  Ida to me as a co-author. If the Satyricon surpasses success on mullins bucks laughing
                  But it is worth considering that the syllable is clear there. Excerpt
                  The Gauls attacked Rome, but the geese sobbed so hard that the enemies retreated, killing the dead and wounded
                2. Tusv
                  Tusv 13 January 2018 13: 38 New
                  0
                  By the way. We organize a blog in Zhuzhu. "World History" and such pearls tuda kidai
                  1. jjj
                    jjj 13 January 2018 13: 46 New
                    +1
                    It's a pity the sponsor - Imperial Bank - has sunk into oblivion
                    1. Tusv
                      Tusv 13 January 2018 13: 53 New
                      0
                      Quote: jjj
                      It's a pity the sponsor - Imperial Bank - has sunk into oblivion

                      Well lucky for them. Our choice is not great Canary, Nara or teeth on the shelf
            2. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 13 January 2018 13: 39 New
              +4
              Quote: Vladimir16
              At the moment, the land was stolen. It's time to return !!!
              That's just Russian blood, pouring on Russian land, to please the enemies of our land is not worth it. Let them eat each other, groysmans and valtsmans, Yatsenyuk and Khodorkovsky die.
          3. sabakina
            sabakina 13 January 2018 13: 52 New
            +3
            Pasha, all of ours and not ours, with the upcoming Old New Year! Pasha, what would you do in the event of a specific failure of Ukraine to take the ships to your place? I have a thought, but first I want to hear yours.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 13 January 2018 14: 07 New
              +3
              Hello, Glory! Mutually! hi drinks
              Quote: sabakina
              and what would you do in the event of a specific failure of Ukraine to take the ships to you?

              Honestly, I somehow did not think about it. But, most likely, sent for scrap. Only at first would he cast a monument to the Ukrainian “thriftiness” with detailed explanations.
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 13 January 2018 14: 13 New
                +5
                Well ..... Pash, they wrote here, sawing them is unprofitable, drowning them, especially in their own waters, is not environmentally friendly. I would tow them to the raid of Odessa and let them do what they go with them. Their ships are with them and demand. And he would have arranged them so that it was problematic for the Berkeley mattress to swim ... How do you like this idea?
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 13 January 2018 14: 17 New
                  +2
                  The idea is very much, but such a stench will be lifted into the arms by yellow-black and star-striped ...
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 13 January 2018 14: 20 New
                    +4
                    Yes, what will they raise? Did we give them theirs? All! The rest is their problem.
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 13 January 2018 14: 24 New
                      +3
                      Well, you know that they can blind from any reason. wink
                    2. LSA57
                      LSA57 13 January 2018 15: 15 New
                      +2
                      Quote: sabakina
                      Yes, what will they raise? Did we give them theirs? All! The rest is their problem.

                      well, the ships sailed. and where the rest of the trash? there are no less than ships. airplanes certainly can’t be flown over the air, and armored vehicles simply won’t start laughing
                      Hi hi
                      1. Evgeniy667b
                        Evgeniy667b 13 January 2018 16: 21 New
                        +2
                        Vladimir Vladimirovich blurted out, without thinking, but he already raised a wave, which Russia doesn’t need anyway. Only in scrap metal, otherwise then everything will fly to us. (Ukraine already has experience in the restoration of equipment). In vain he did so! Ukrainians do what they want, but ours only make excuses and cheeks are inflated ..
              2. Tusv
                Tusv 13 January 2018 14: 28 New
                +1
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                But, most likely, sent for scrap. Only at first would he cast a monument to the Ukrainian “thriftiness” with detailed explanations.

                To teach Syabrov everything drinks. First of all, you need to find the owner, then you need to hand in an invoice for the storage of scrap metal. No answer - Our scrap metal
                We understand another problem. On the "Sea" It is easy to build three aircraft carriers on Ukrainian trash, but how they will pass through the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles recourse
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 13 January 2018 15: 18 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Tusv
                  On the "Sea" It’s easy to build three aircraft carriers on Ukrainian trash,

                  Well, if only such laughing

                  and escort ships laughing
      2. 210ox
        210ox 13 January 2018 12: 10 New
        +6
        Let them at least take what they offer .. And then the scumbags started looking for a catch in the proposal to return the scrap metal ..
        Quote: Rusland
        Accustomed, the king of the market, began to joke.
        1. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 13 January 2018 12: 29 New
          +9
          I, here, I think, maybe the Germans initiate claims on their "hardware" .... wassat
          1. andron-30
            andron-30 13 January 2018 13: 13 New
            +1
            It’s X to them, but you need to ask for disposal, well, not for nothing that they were smelted with us, in battle, not in any way good for the world.
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 13 January 2018 12: 41 New
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          Let them at least take what they offer.

          as a bonus, we will give half of the government
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 13 January 2018 13: 59 New
            +4
            Sergey, I propose together with the Duma in full force. And organize an evening. And then they got too much too.
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 13 January 2018 15: 20 New
              +1
              Quote: sabakina
              And then they got too much too.

              What are the senators doing there? what is the use of them?
        3. LSA57
          LSA57 13 January 2018 14: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          Let them at least take what they offer .. And then the scumbags started looking for a catch in the proposal to return the scrap metal ..

          this is not a pity laughing
    2. marlin1203
      marlin1203 13 January 2018 11: 59 New
      +1
      It’s sad when the prime minister is so stupid and pathetic trying to joke
      1. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO 13 January 2018 12: 20 New
        +8
        The fact that Russia is ready to transfer to Ukraine the remaining military equipment in the Crimea, including airplanes and ships, said Russian President Vladimir Putin on January 11. He noticed that she was "in a deplorable state."
        If only I had forgotten that parking in the Crimea is paid .. for Ukaina, the fee is like in a parking lot winked
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 13 January 2018 12: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          If only I had forgotten that parking in the Crimea is paid .. for urkaina the dachshund is like in a parking lot winked

          A good idea is to “vparit" the bill for protection and storage!
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 13 January 2018 12: 43 New
          +3
          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          If only I had forgotten that parking in the Crimea is paid .. for Ukaina, the fee is like in a parking lot

          already paid. the parking place is already ours
      2. Galaktionych
        Galaktionych 13 January 2018 14: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: marlin1203
        It’s sad when the prime minister is so stupid and pathetic trying to joke


        It is even sadder when the president of the neighboring country of Ukraine seriously asks the state, for the fourth year in a row, killing Russians in the Donbas to pick up military equipment ...
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 13 January 2018 15: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Galaktionych
          pick up military equipment ...

          TECHNIQUE ?????? see the video above. stupid is the president who agrees to keep foreign rubbish on his territory. urkaina herself doesn’t want to take her
    3. Chertt
      Chertt 13 January 2018 12: 01 New
      +5
      Putin knows how to "unexpected" to throw. Obama at one time from this, already whitened a bit
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 13 January 2018 12: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: Chertt
        Obama at one time from this, already whitened a bit

        Yes, not a bit, my wife barely recognized laughing
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 13 January 2018 14: 02 New
          +3
          Serge, judging by the protrusion on the dress below the waist, is not a wife, but a wife. laughing
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 13 January 2018 15: 23 New
            +1
            Quote: sabakina
            Serge, judging by the protrusion on the dress below the waist, is not a wife, but a wife.

            to each taste, said the Indian, pulling a monkey on a banana laughing
    4. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 13 January 2018 12: 21 New
      +1
      According to him, Ukraine is ready to accept not only the fleet and aircraft, but the peninsula itself "in the near future".

      Return, finally return the Crimea to Ukraine!
      In the form of Soviet political maps, where he was Ukrainian!
      Let them look and rejoice that he is theirs!
    5. LSA57
      LSA57 13 January 2018 12: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Dormidont
      Groysman has a black belt in combat hutspe

      in Durkee, or rad issued?
  2. Wolka
    Wolka 13 January 2018 12: 03 New
    0
    have already got their dill, what else ...
  3. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 13 January 2018 12: 04 New
    0
    Ukrofantasty develop their thoughts at an incredible speed, no one dares to compete with them. Open the eyelids of these heroes.
  4. Vanin
    Vanin 13 January 2018 12: 04 New
    +7
    We remember Berezovsky was .. And in Ukraine, there all the posts are clogged .. (sometimes change)) But the carnage continues!
  5. Tusv
    Tusv 13 January 2018 12: 07 New
    +3
    Agree Ukraine. So I see Ukrainian news. The fleet is back. We cut out tugboats, we seem to be Ukrainian escort ships. This is some kind of armadisch. Horror. Himself suddenly became scared drinks
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 13 January 2018 14: 05 New
      +4
      Yeah, and the submarine Zaporozhye waved the periscope and turned into a new Ashen ..... In, the fantasy broke out ...
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 13 January 2018 14: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: sabakina
        Yeah, and the submarine Zaporozhye waved the periscope and turned into a new "Ashen" ..... In, the fantasy broke out

        Duc Zaporozhye, then along the bottom of the Russian Sea, Parade, minting step drinks
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 13 January 2018 15: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: sabakina
        Yeah, and the submarine Zaporozhye waved the periscope and turned into a new Ashen ..... In, the fantasy broke out ...

        and new air forces appeared ....
  6. bald
    bald 13 January 2018 12: 11 New
    +3
    --- "Ukraine is ready to accept" - Take better on your chest and go into the fog.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 13 January 2018 15: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: bald
      Take better on your chest and go into the fog.

      therefore petyunya and is silent laughing
      1. bald
        bald 13 January 2018 17: 18 New
        0
        laughing I wish he got lost there laughing
  7. Terenin
    Terenin 13 January 2018 12: 18 New
    +6
    In Crimea, responded to the proposal Groysman return Kiev fleet and peninsula Well, Crimeans have patience and endurance request still trying to answer brainless clowns.
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 13 January 2018 12: 27 New
      +5
      Quote: Terenin
      In Crimea, responded to the proposal Groysman return Kiev fleet and peninsula

  8. Fedorov
    Fedorov 13 January 2018 12: 20 New
    +2
    and aircraft from Crimea

    At the time of the return of the Crimea, there were only three MiG-29s flying there, and then only once. Everything else is junk in the open. Under Yushchenko, one MiG was able to rise into the sky. So maybe the deprived can really give it to the colorimeter, cool sleds are obtained from them. In Kharkov, convicts are riveting.
    So damn it anyway plundered ..
    Anyway, it all looks like a Comedy Club. wink
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 13 January 2018 15: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Fedorov
      So maybe the deprived can really give it to the colorimeter, cool sleds are obtained from them.

      so GDP is not only a fleet for them, in general all their equipment
  9. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 13 January 2018 12: 21 New
    0
    Yes, all these junts understand ... they’re only afraid to open their mouths again, so that Natsik wouldn’t throw them into the tanks for that ... and they don’t need the equipment in that state of disuse)))) hryvnia it is necessary to repair it more than she is worth
    1. Alekseits
      Alekseits 13 January 2018 12: 31 New
      0
      And they have enough scrap metal. One cruiser "Ukraine" is worth it. And there and Getman Sagaidachny on the way ... laughing
  10. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 13 January 2018 12: 27 New
    0
    Quote: Dormidont
    Groysman has a black belt in combat hutspe

    On eating matzo, he has a discharge!
  11. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 January 2018 12: 29 New
    +2
    I would return the fleet to them in installments as the debts are paid off! We paid 10 percent - get your rusty anti-aircraft systems, another 10 percent paid - we will return the ship equipment. ..But, however, let them also pay for dismantling the weapons! !!
  12. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 13 January 2018 12: 32 New
    +4
    A classic fork - and you cannot pick up the equipment and leave it too, in any case, the trident will not understand and they will raise the howl.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 13 January 2018 12: 39 New
      +3
      Therefore, a suggestion was made - take your scrap yourself. Refuse - all for recycling.
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 13 January 2018 12: 48 New
        +3
        The Russian leader noted that the ships could be transported to Odessa for transfer to Kiev.

        Even with delivery, otherwise Ukraine will have at least half sank during transportation laughing
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 13 January 2018 13: 02 New
          +4
          I don’t feel like contacting the delivery somehow. This is a full-fledged evacuation operation, it will fly a pretty penny. Yes, then the howl will begin - after delivery, everything was gone! Three domestic cigarette cases, three tape recorders, three suede jackets. For me - it’s better to cut everything at once if they refuse.
        2. Galaktionych
          Galaktionych 13 January 2018 14: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: Sands Career General
          The Russian leader noted that the ships could be transported to Odessa for transfer to Kiev.


          Do you call the Russian leader a man who is ready to transfer weapons to a state fighting against Russians?
          1. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 13 January 2018 14: 23 New
            +3
            I saw this "technique" in the Crimea in 2014. Rusty trash.
          2. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 13 January 2018 14: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: Galaktionych
            Do you call the Russian leader a man who is ready to transfer weapons to a state fighting against Russians?

            Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
            I saw this "technique" in the Crimea in 2014. Rusty trash.

            Ah, I applaud. After all, this is how much headache they will have there with the advent of such "military equipment." And we "square" will be freed. wink
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Yes, noble trolling from the GDP turned out.)))

            wink
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 13 January 2018 12: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: Sands Career General
      A classic fork - and you cannot pick up the equipment and leave it too, in any case, the trident will not understand and they will raise the howl.
      Yeah, the noble trolling from the GDP turned out.))) There are not only dill, here also the mattresses are at a loss. For the fourth year, they have convinced the world that the Russian Federation attacked Urkaina, and the “aggressor”, having lost conscience, forces the “victims” to take back their undersized fleet, undersized aircraft and under armored vehicles, so long as it does not violate the ecology by products of oxidation. Now analysts are sitting in the State Department and they are scratching their turn on what to do with this offer of GDP when the Jewels are packed to fight the "aggressor" tanks. winked
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 13 January 2018 12: 54 New
        +3
        With the Javelins, too, a bummer happened, they want to supply TOW, and even so that the complexes were under the supervision of the Americans themselves and not on the front end, otherwise the cunning Europeans would plunder everything instantly))
        1. Galaktionych
          Galaktionych 13 January 2018 14: 53 New
          0
          Quote: Sands Career General
          With the Javelins, too, a bummer happened, they want to supply TOW, and even so that the complexes were under the supervision of the Americans themselves and not on the front end, otherwise the cunning Europeans would plunder everything instantly))

          The United States supplies Ukraine with the Javelins. Although in the future probably TOW too, they showed their performance in the Syrian war.

          Tramp draws a consistent and tough line into arming the Ukrainian army with modern American weapons. American instructors who will accompany the "Javelins" - just from this series. Although it is believed that these are not only instructors, but also operators ...
    3. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 13 January 2018 14: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Sands Career General
      A classic fork - and you cannot pick up the equipment and leave it too, in any case, the trident will not understand and they will raise the howl.


      Well, we are very afraid of misunderstanding and howling trident, right?

      Here we are not afraid of the continuation of the deaths of the Donetsk people who believed in Russia and who perish daily from Ukrainian weapons. Nobody promised them anything.
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 13 January 2018 14: 44 New
        +4
        I am from Donbass, and have been to the front end. Everything suits me. Have questions?
        Or are you just hammering your tongue, that everywhere around the zrad, even turned about us, without asking permission?
        1. Galaktionych
          Galaktionych 13 January 2018 15: 07 New
          0
          Quote: Sands Career General
          I am from Donbass, and have been to the front end. Everything suits me. Have questions?
          Or are you just hammering your tongue, that everywhere around the zrad, even turned about us, without asking permission?


          Do I understand correctly that this your replica is addressed to me?

          In this case, I wanted to clarify two questions:
          1) Do you live in the Donbass now?
          2) Do you agree with Putin’s opinion on the need to transfer Donbass to Ukraine?
          1. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 13 January 2018 15: 13 New
            +5
            1) I live in Lugansk, an indigenous Luhansk resident.

            2) Lugansk and Donetsk will not return to Ukraine. The train left.
            1. onix757
              onix757 13 January 2018 17: 54 New
              +1
              And in the corner of the photo the name of the site from which it was taken is visible. "Fishki. Net" laughing
              1. Sands Careers General
                Sands Careers General 15 January 2018 10: 13 New
                +3
                Because the URL of the photo was copied from there, I uploaded the photo there))
                But Putin believes otherwise - he wants to give the Donbass to Ukraine, which he has repeatedly said.

                That's why he is a politician to say that. But in fact no one will return anything.
            2. Galaktionych
              Galaktionych 14 January 2018 20: 59 New
              0
              Quote: Sands Career General

              2) Lugansk and Donetsk will not return to Ukraine. The train left.


              But Putin believes otherwise - he wants to give the Donbass to Ukraine, which he has repeatedly said.
  13. Monarchist
    Monarchist 13 January 2018 12: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    Groisman, to the rabbit, as to the moon on foot, as if not refined. lol

    Yes, the “rabbit” was not an imitation: what was the statement: “Stalin attacked Ukraine in 1943.”
    Our grandmother lives in our village, she knew the father of the "rabbit" in her childhood and told me: he is from dogs. In their village they told such a story, once a long time ago the landowner, an ardent dogman (like Troekurov) lived and somehow he sold or exchanged his dogs for a land plot and settled some strangers there. They were a servant in his house. All the settlers were angry like dogs and under the king and the Union they kept aloof, and the father of the "rabbit" was one of these "dogs"
  14. beeFrost
    beeFrost 13 January 2018 12: 37 New
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    I would like to take this opportunity to ask (as an indigenous resident of Alushta): did anyone hear that in Alushta they blew up the support of the power transmission line and in the neighboring village (zaprudnoy) gas pipe, and also after that they caught the Tatar for making the bomb? Has anyone heard that in Symph. Has the parcel exploded at the airport? And also, by the way, there was an incident with "drying" in the air over Symph. ...... Have you heard?
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 13 January 2018 14: 25 New
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      Quote: beeFrost
      I would like to take this opportunity to ask (as an indigenous resident of Alushta): did anyone hear that in Alushta they blew up the support of the power transmission line and in the neighboring village (zaprudnoy) gas pipe, and also after that they caught the Tatar for making the bomb? Has anyone heard that in Symph. Has the parcel exploded at the airport? And also, by the way, there was an incident with "drying" in the air over Symph. ...... Have you heard?

      Stop spreading decadent moods! Just think, they blew up something ... As if it was going to leave us.

      You’d better tell us how the rating of our Multinational Leader has grown, how it is respected and feared abroad, about the successes of our policy in Syria ...
  15. 1536
    1536 13 January 2018 12: 41 New
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    It is clear that the thought was that the Ukrainians would put the transferred “ships and planes” into scrap metal and at least somehow earn money to transfer the proceeds to, for example, the elderly and the disabled. Very humane, humanly! But this is not enough for Ukrainians. Give them the "whole peninsula" to sell it for dearly to the Americans, and still arrange cannibalism there. But this is an encroachment on the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation and an attempt on humanity! How can one sink to this? True, there remains a small fraction of hope, because not Ukrainians rule in Ukraine.
  16. Odysseus
    Odysseus 13 January 2018 12: 52 New
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    On most political issues, I do not agree with Mr. Strelkov, but it’s difficult to disagree with Ukraine’s reaction to Mr. Putin’s proposal to give military equipment to Maidan Ukraine.
    The West (controlling the former Ukraine) rightly regarded this proposal as a sign of weakness and cowardice, as one of the signs of the desire of the Russian authorities to beg forgiveness at all costs and answered predictably mockingly.
    Offering the Russian Federation to pay and repent. There will be no forgiveness for cowards.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 13 January 2018 12: 59 New
      +5
      Can you imagine the state of this technology well?
      This is scrap metal.
      And it will be transferred, as "military equipment", nonetheless.
      It’s quite at the level of trolling “independent” and her, ahem, the current rulers.
      And Strelkov ... well, what Strelkov? He’s now any reason to remind himself is good, and then, God forbid, they’ll stop feeding request
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 13 January 2018 13: 14 New
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        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Can you imagine the state of this technology well?
        This is scrap metal.

        At least, as a source of spare parts for aviation and infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers, it is suitable. And in them the army of Maidan of Ukraine is in great need. If we take into account the experience of 2014, then they can repair and use something transferred directly in the Donbass. Only the fleet is useless.
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        It’s quite at the level of trolling “independent” and her, ahem, the current rulers.

        What is trolling? Hand over the murder weapon to those who are going to kill you? I'm afraid the inhabitants of Donbass will not appreciate the humor.
        And besides, the West immediately showed that it also knows how to “humor”, suggesting that since you are returning military property from the Crimea, the main thing that is lost is the Crimea itself.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 13 January 2018 15: 46 New
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          Quote: Odyssey
          At a minimum, as a source of spare parts for aviation and infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers

          Sure? I don’t for some reason ...
          Quote: Odyssey
          they can repair and use something transferred directly in the Donbass

          I have no reason not to believe the Supreme: technology
          is in poor condition.
          But this is not our business

          All the rest is your speculation.
          Quote: Odyssey
          And besides, the West immediately showed that it also knows how to "humor" ...

          ... and this too yes
    2. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 13 January 2018 14: 28 New
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      Quote: Odyssey
      On most political issues, I do not agree with Mr. Strelkov, but it’s difficult to disagree with Ukraine’s reaction to Mr. Putin’s proposal to give military equipment to Maidan Ukraine.
      The West (controlling the former Ukraine) rightly regarded this proposal as a sign of weakness and cowardice, as one of the signs of the desire of the Russian authorities to beg forgiveness at all costs and answered predictably mockingly.
      Offering the Russian Federation to pay and repent. There will be no forgiveness for cowards.


      Your disagreement with Mr. Strelkov in psychology is called the term "cognitive dissonance." This is a situation where a false picture of reality ("Putin patriot") comes into clear contradiction with reality "(Putin gives up Russian interests around the world).
  17. izya top
    izya top 13 January 2018 13: 00 New
    +1
    ships can be transported to Odessa for transfer to Kiev.
    but will not take, turn off the gas (c)
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 13 January 2018 14: 31 New
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      Quote: iza top
      ships can be transported to Odessa for transfer to Kiev.
      but will not take, turn off the gas (c)

      This is when you turned off the gas to Ukraine? I don’t remember that.

      Ukraine often did not pay for Russian gas, it often stole it, but always received gas as much as needed.
      It is one thing to cut off gas for non-payment to Russian pensioners and quite another to respected Kiev partners. For the latter, you can get a hat from Uncle Trump.
  18. pvv113
    pvv113 13 January 2018 13: 06 New
    +3
    proposal of the Prime Minister of Ukraine Volodymyr Groysman to “return” Crimea with military equipment

    But is Groysman thumping with Parashenko? It’s painful nonsense.
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 13 January 2018 14: 45 New
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      Quote: pvv113
      proposal of the Prime Minister of Ukraine Volodymyr Groysman to “return” Crimea with military equipment

      But is Groysman thumping with Parashenko? It’s painful nonsense.


      Have mercy, but why is it nonsense?

      Ukraine has already gained recognition from the official Russian leadership of its right to the Donbass, drove out Russian officers from the Joint Armistice Control Center in the Donbass, and periodically conducts armed sabotage in the Crimea.

      Where is the nonsense here? There is quite a rational and quite successful policy of the Ukrainian leadership.
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 13 January 2018 16: 09 New
        +1
        Soon expel Russia from space wink
        1. Ronald Reagan
          Ronald Reagan 13 January 2018 16: 32 New
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          The most interesting thing is that the presence of Russia in space is minimal. laughing
  19. zloybond
    zloybond 13 January 2018 13: 13 New
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    In general, I see Ukraine is very burdened by the Soviet legacy ... everything that concerns the USSR is bad for them. It is time for them to voluntarily refuse since they so strongly want this from everything that the Soviets imposed on them.
    For example: Kursk Region - In addition to its current territory, they entered the Kursk region
    northern part of Belgorod region, as well as the surroundings of Glukhov and Putivl district of Sumy region. Ukraine.
    from here CONCLUSION: Ukraine urgently needs to do something to somehow return Kursk to its historical lands ....... And so on ... as Schnur says.
  20. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 13 January 2018 13: 45 New
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    Russia is ready to transfer to Ukraine its military equipment remaining in Crimea, including aircraft and ships,

    In order for Hempel to be able to transfer the fleet to Groisman, he will need a Pilot, a Navigator and a Boatswain, and certainly Katzman.
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 13 January 2018 14: 39 New
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      Quote: Polite Moose
      Russia is ready to transfer to Ukraine its military equipment remaining in Crimea, including aircraft and ships,

      In order for Hempel to be able to transfer the fleet to Groisman, he will need a Pilot, a Navigator and a Boatswain, and certainly Katzman.


      I have to disagree with you on this issue.

      In order to ensure guaranteed transfer of ships to Ukraine, the key role will not be played by Groisman or even Katzman, but by Sholomov.
  21. Evil 55
    Evil 55 13 January 2018 14: 11 New
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    Hempel-Groisman: brother-to-brother, "Izzy, remember my word, you are on the verge of a grand schucher
  22. Galaktionych
    Galaktionych 13 January 2018 14: 17 New
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    "The fact that Russia is ready to transfer to Ukraine its military equipment remaining in Crimea, including airplanes and ships, said Russian President Vladimir Putin on January 11."

    Oh, this is an unusually powerful move of the ingenious Nanostrateg!

    Some kind of very cunning plan that will make us great again and for the umpteenth time will lift us off our knees.

    Well, I will say this to irresponsible critics - did you want World War III? Will you go to fight yourself or continue to lie on the couch? Crimeans, by the way, no one promised anything.
  23. Lexus
    Lexus 13 January 2018 14: 23 New
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    According to him, Ukraine is ready to accept

    The co-chair of the "admission" committee has arrived.
  24. Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich
    Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich 13 January 2018 15: 19 New
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    "Ukrainian Prime Minister Vladimir Groysman responded to a proposal by Russian President Vladimir Putin to return warships and aircraft from Crimea to Kiev. According to him, Ukraine is ready to receive not only the fleet and aircraft, but the peninsula itself" in the near future. "
    But the face will not crack? Or is he hoping that the pan on his head (for lack of a helmet) will not allow the erysipelas to fall apart from anticipation of such a situation?
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  27. aleks700
    aleks700 13 January 2018 18: 29 New
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    Hempel added that the Russian side is ready for dialogue with Ukraine and wants to "build partnership and friendly relations with a neighboring state."
    Relations with the Nazis?
    The fact that Russia is ready to transfer to Ukraine the remaining military equipment in the Crimea, including airplanes and ships, said Russian President Vladimir Putin on January 11. He noticed that she was "in a deplorable state."
    It will be repaired, repaired and used against Russia. Have an unnamed senile insanity?
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 13 January 2018 18: 49 New
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      Quote: aleks700
      It will be repaired, repaired and used against Russia. Have an unnamed senile insanity?

      . ".. There are 70-80% of Russian-made equipment. Then the question arises, but whether Ukraine, which has not resolved the issue of import substitution, will be able to restore the technical ability of these ships. Also is needed very good political assessment, international legal assessment and especially financial component of this question "
      S. Gaiduk. Their admiral.
      https://24tv.ua/ru/ukraina_tag1119
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 13 January 2018 18: 57 New
        +4
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        S. Gaiduk. Their Admiral

        You write everything correctly.
        Only it is useless, basically.
        The local contingent is basically ... unpersuasive negative
      2. aleks700
        aleks700 13 January 2018 19: 46 New
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        The question then arises whether Ukraine, which has not resolved the issue of import substitution, will be able to restore the technical ability of these ships.
        Will be able. We left almost all shipbuilding to them. Kherson, Nikolaev. And there are sponsors. And they won’t buy what they themselves do.
        1. onix757
          onix757 13 January 2018 21: 52 New
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          Of course he can. In the 14th year, in the midst of hostilities, our all echelons transferred equipment from the Crimea. Then the "patriots" from the authorities said the same thing about trash and other crap. Meanwhile, the VSU are only getting stronger.
  28. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 13 January 2018 20: 42 New
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    Groysman’s RETURN DOES NOT fit ...
  29. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 13 January 2018 21: 48 New
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    Ukraine is gone. A dialogue with the Outskirts is also impossible - there is no one to talk with ..
    1. onix757
      onix757 13 January 2018 22: 04 New
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      Why not with anyone? But what about the presidential elections recognized by the Russian Federation? And the Minsk agreements for which our Foreign Ministry clings like drowning in a straw? And the increase in gas transit? Normally there they talk among themselves within the framework of the Washington consensus, only people from both sides hang noodles about insidious enemies.
  30. Berg berg
    Berg berg 13 January 2018 22: 48 New
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    Russia does not sell its land! Crimea Russia! Accepted by all as de facto, but not in a dare, the owner scolds terribly!
    1. Galaktionych
      Galaktionych 29 January 2018 11: 30 New
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      Quote: Berg Berg
      Russia does not sell its land! Crimea Russia! Accepted by all as de facto, but not in a dare, the owner scolds terribly!

      Russia doesn’t trade ... But Pyna is not even averse to trading Russian zemlyatse. The Kuril Islands have almost been handed over to Japan, Kaliningrad ...
      1. Berg berg
        Berg berg 1 February 2018 13: 00 New
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        Was it the information itself obtained from a direct source or were liberals with apple-horse heads prompted? Only the main Jap is indignant that he was again sent cunningly with islands.
  31. LeonidL
    LeonidL 14 January 2018 01: 36 New
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    Director of the market, he is the director of the bazaar ...
  32. sergevonsohrn
    sergevonsohrn 14 January 2018 01: 38 New
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    he would take the Crimea, of course, ... but who will give it to him !!!
  33. earloop
    earloop 14 January 2018 01: 55 New
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    ... I’m ready to accept not only the fleet and planes, but the peninsula itself “in the near future”. To accept such "gravity" - the navel will untie.
  34. Orionvit
    Orionvit 14 January 2018 02: 56 New
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    Quote: hrych
    We watch the movie carefully

    You can watch as much as you like, as well as fantasize about the plot. With the same success, Fox could say hello to the already dead Senka-Tuzik, as an accomplished fact, they say, it will be like this with all of yours. You understood some points in your own way. Of course, it’s better to ask the screenwriter, or better yet, read the book. True, I read it almost thirty years ago, but I remember exactly, the film is almost exactly from the book.
  35. Nemesis
    Nemesis 14 January 2018 09: 27 New
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    Russia needs to return (to Ukraine) the patriots of foreign states lost in the Russian Federation who are spying in Russia and informing embassies (Ukraine) about the movement of military units to the Russian Federation
  36. Romanenko
    Romanenko 15 January 2018 11: 37 New
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    No, Vovochka, as promised, the iron is conditionally floating, plus the iron is conditionally flying, well, and as a bonus, a couple of rolls of scotch tape - wind your faces and homies so that they don't crack.