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Yuzhmash wants 8 million dollars from Russia

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The press service of the Ukrainian Yuzhmash said that Russia should transfer the company about 8,25 million dollars as part of the program to build the Zenit-2SLB rocket.


From the report:
The contract was signed in 2011 year. The manufacture of a Zenit-2SLB launch vehicle has been ordered. Customer - FSUE “Center for the operation of ground-based space infrastructure”, Russia. To complete this contract, Yuzhmash expects to receive 8,245 million US dollars. This will allow to complete the assembly of the product and ship it to the Baikonur cosmodrome for launch.


The Zenit-2SLB rocket was first needed by Ukraine itself, since with its help it was planned to launch the first Ukrainian satellite, Lebed (Lybid).

Yuzhmash wants 8 million dollars from Russia


Lybid is a geostationary telecommunications satellite, which was built on the order of Ukrkosmos to create a Ukrainian national satellite broadcasting system. It is noteworthy that today the “first Ukrainian satellite” itself is stored in the territory of the Russian Federation. The launch of the satellite into orbit was to take place in January 2014 of the year, but the well-known events in Ukraine prevented the launch. A few months later in Kiev announced the break of cooperation with the Russian Federation in the rocket and space industry.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 12 January 2018 17: 25
    33
    but well-known events in Ukraine prevented the launch. A few months later in Kiev, they announced the severance of cooperation with the Russian Federation in the rocket and space industry.
    "Yuzhmash" come on bye. laughing
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 12 January 2018 17: 31
      38
      Ukrkosmos, even sounds ridiculous ...
      1. electrooleg
        electrooleg 12 January 2018 17: 33
        24
        Isn't Lybid ridiculous? laughing For me - so this is the one who constantly smiles lol
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 12 January 2018 17: 34
          +6
          Well, for the past few years, they have not poked at me every day, but as many ancient ukrov as possible.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 12 January 2018 17: 49
            15
            Today, the “first Ukrainian satellite” itself is stored on the territory of the Russian Federation. The satellite’s launch into orbit was supposed to take place in January 2014, but well-known events in Ukraine prevented the launch. A few months later in Kiev, they announced the severance of cooperation with the Russian Federation in the rocket and space industry.
            To return Ukraine to their Ukrainian satellite - and to close this topic for discussion in general!
            And then, you see, the Ukrainians themselves do not need to regain the satellite back to themselves, but they just demand money from Russia! But does Russia need their satellite? No, not needed!

            It was generally necessary for Russia to not store the Ukrainian satellite, but to immediately return it to Ukraine, as soon as Ukraine in the 2014 year terminated the agreement on its launch with the help of the Russian Federation.
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 12 January 2018 18: 02
              11
              Quote: Tatiana
              To return Ukraine to their Ukrainian satellite - and to close this topic for discussion in general!

              Quote: Tatiana
              It was generally necessary for Russia to not store the Ukrainian satellite, but to immediately return it to Ukraine, as soon as Ukraine in the 2014 year terminated the agreement on its launch with the help of the Russian Federation.

              Tatyana! Did the Hohlomanians return the money paid under the contract for the supply of gas turbines?
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 12 January 2018 18: 13
                +4
                kapitan92
                Did the Hohlomanians return the money paid under the contract for the supply of gas turbines?
                Unfortunately, I do not know these subtleties. In which case, we leave ourselves the gas turbine. GTU will be useful to us ourselves.
                Most likely, the Ukrainians didn’t pay for the gas turbines of Russia, since the Ukrainian satellite still stores the Russian Federation. I thought that Russia keeps a Ukrainian satellite in it for friendly reasons to the fate of Ukraine and its peoples. And then after all, return the satellite to the Ukrainians - they will thieves it for parts and will be dismantled for criminal sale.
                1. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 12 January 2018 18: 38
                  17
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Unfortunately, I do not know these subtleties. In which case, we leave ourselves the gas turbine. GTU will be useful to us ourselves.
                  Most likely, the Ukrainians didn’t pay for the gas turbines of Russia, since the Ukrainian satellite still stores the Russian Federation. I thought that Russia keeps a Ukrainian satellite in it for friendly reasons to the fate of Ukraine and its peoples. And then after all, return the satellite to the Ukrainians - they will thieves it for parts and will be dismantled for criminal sale.

                  Tatyana! You have not figured it out a bit. We paid for gas turbine units for our Navy. The outskirts imposed sanctions and our 3 destroyers were left without a “fiery motor”. No refund, no delivery of finished products.
                  Fuck them, not a companion!
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 12 January 2018 19: 17
                    +3
                    kapitan92
                    Tatyana! You have not figured it out a bit. We paid for gas turbine units for our Navy. The outskirts imposed sanctions and our 3 destroyers were left without a “fiery motor”. No refund, no delivery of finished products.
                    Fuck them, not a companion!
                    If this is indeed so, then I, too, are only in favor!
                    Let the Ukrainian satellite lie with us! If anything, then we will sort it ourselves for parts and for sale!
                  2. Yngvar
                    Yngvar 12 January 2018 19: 39
                    0
                    In-in! The cheek will burst!
                2. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 12 January 2018 18: 38
                  32
                  "Lybid" - a geostationary telecommunications satellite,

                  “Lybid” - read this word from right to left. yes
                  1. spech
                    spech 12 January 2018 18: 44
                    18
                    either "Grobik", then "Dybyl" karma however good
                3. activator
                  activator 12 January 2018 18: 41
                  +2
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Unfortunately, I do not know these subtleties. In which case, we leave ourselves the gas turbine. GTU will be useful to us ourselves.

                  wassat Oh mommies ...
            2. 97110
              97110 12 January 2018 19: 11
              +9
              Quote: Tatiana
              To return Ukraine to their Ukrainian satellite - and to close this topic for discussion in general!

              Already stunned ... What kind of communist approach? In a capitalist society, tea, we live! Let them pay for storage, after payment they can pick it up at own expense. If they are late, do not give back - let them pay again! There, storage rates for 3 years should grow every 30 times! Everything will be ours! We’ll hand over for scrap! And their requests to challenge! There is nothing of them already!
            3. tol100v
              tol100v 12 January 2018 19: 29
              +2
              Quote: Tatiana
              It was generally necessary for Russia to not store the Ukrainian satellite, but to immediately return it to Ukraine, as soon as Ukraine in the 2014 year terminated the agreement on its launch with the help of the Russian Federation.

              There are serious suspicions that its production was not paid! Otherwise, a howl would have stood for a long time!
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 12 January 2018 17: 51
          +6
          First, it’s ridiculous to laugh at a language you don’t understand. It's ridiculous and rude.
          Second
          “Swan” (“Lybid”).

          To fuck it, damn it, not a swan nirazu, with the legendary co-founder of Kiev.
          1. Spez
            Spez 12 January 2018 18: 05
            +5
            Lybid (Russian Swan) - a kind of flying dinosaurs described in the novel of the Ukrainian science fiction writer Alexander Shakilov, “The Mole War”.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 12 January 2018 18: 20
              +6
              Who is this writer and what effect does his novel have on the formation of the Ukrainian language?
              The swan in Ukrainian sounds like LEBID (I write in Russian letters). This I declare to you as a native speaker.
              1. Spez
                Spez 12 January 2018 18: 31
                +4
                Those. and the swan bird in Ukrainian sounds and is written in a completely different way, and you say that the legendary princess had a huge influence on the formation of the Ukrainian language?
                By the way. if you started this topic yourself, then the satellite as a result, having received this name, turned out to be useless to anyone, and now lies “beyond the river”. It’s sad.
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 12 January 2018 18: 43
                  +3
                  I affirm that your quote about a science fiction writer there is absolutely incorrect. And I also say that
                  the name is in Ukraine the last 100 years, the polar and "their"

                  And that laughing at him is the same as laughing at all Ukrainians (well, except that I don’t consider Canadian Ukrainians, they probably don’t care) put together, and this 1 - not clever 2 - frankly speaking, it’s harmful.
                  1. Spez
                    Spez 12 January 2018 19: 04
                    +6
                    It’s not my fantasy, but quite Kiev’s, and if the satellite was named after the princess, then this means that there are enough Petrosyans in Ukrkosmos. I agree only that laughing at other languages ​​is not smart and harmful. sometimes even for health.
                  2. Smog
                    Smog 12 January 2018 19: 19
                    +4
                    Quote: alexmach
                    you have to laugh

                    Probably need ..... especially laugh, ...... at all ....... 9 and not only Ukrainians). This is so, by the way ......
              2. Smog
                Smog 12 January 2018 19: 04
                +3
                Quote: alexmach
                Who is this writer and what effect does his novel have on the formation of the Ukrainian language?

                And this question is not for us, and not even for science fiction. This is straightforward to Farion. If something is not clear, Toffee will explain ...... No, you can still to the ancient Sumerians ......
              3. eugraphus
                eugraphus 13 January 2018 02: 08
                0
                -Sinepupenko, marveling at the yak, the surname is funny - Vorobyov!
              4. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 13 January 2018 06: 28
                +1
                Quote: alexmach
                The swan in Ukrainian sounds like LEBID (I write in Russian letters)

                Having said A, we must say B .... they wrote in Russian letters, write and "non-Russian":
                Swan, Winch, Swan.
          2. NordUral
            NordUral 12 January 2018 18: 23
            +5
            To the language, my friend, all this has nothing to do, more likely to the story, more even to the legends. Lybid is the legendary sister of the legendary founders of Kiev. Only. It’s a pity that our story has been scattered around the farms and is being changed for the sake of surely not the people.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 12 January 2018 18: 27
              +1
              I know, my friend. Only here is the name in Ukraine over the past 100 years, the polar and "their own", and for you - friend-alien. Throwing insults and haste at him - you and your friend provoke above nothing more than ethnic hatred.
              1. mihey
                mihey 12 January 2018 18: 57
                +7
                In Russia, it is also its own - they begin to teach this in the elementary grades, as well as the fact that Kiev is the mother of Russian cities. If someone forgot, it means that he studied. There are no reasons for mutual insults, and just indicating a mistake is quite enough.
              2. 97110
                97110 12 January 2018 19: 18
                +4
                Quote: alexmach
                provoke nothing more than ethnic hatred.

                And we, the carriers, are already the same for us. Hopes that the human appearance will return to the “carriers" are not the slightest.
                1. Mestny
                  Mestny 12 January 2018 19: 52
                  +3
                  Calmly. This is a descendant of ancient ukrov got out for a walk. Threatens us that we do not believe in the foundation of Kiev by Ukrainians.
                  Indeed, these diverse varieties are not wanted to be disassembled, and there is no time for that.
                  So for now - homeric laughter. But the club, however, is nearby, so that immediately along the snout.
                2. alexmach
                  alexmach 12 January 2018 21: 58
                  +3
                  That you have now demonstrated your human appearance to understand?
              3. Smog
                Smog 12 January 2018 19: 34
                +4
                Quote: alexmach
                Only now the name is in Ukraine the last 100 years, the polar and "their",

                Oh! But in Russia, it’s completely “alien”. And I think and why is it that Alexander Sergeich back in 1831 (mind you, it's more than a hundred years) wrote a fairy tale. Name the full name?
                Please.
                “The Tale of Tsar Saltan, of his glorious and powerful hero Prince Gvidon Saltanovich and the beautiful Princess Swans” (a shortened version of the name is “The Tale of Tsar Saltan”). And this event happened already, it’s not even scary to think, in 1831. And you are 100 years old, 100 years old. But Rimsky-Korsakov wrote and directed an opera on this subject in 1900. And also much more than 100 years of the ones you mentioned have since passed. But Vrubel, no. Just think. Vrubel even wrote a picture on this subject. Oh, these ancient Ukrainians ......... ancient Sumerians ....... And what is that name for them ?? ???? Plagiarism ...., pure water
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 12 January 2018 19: 49
                  +1
                  Once again, the last one, for the dull. Lybid is a proper name and not a swan. In any case, in the modern language. So the work of Alexander Sergeyevich is past the box office.
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                  2. Smog
                    Smog 12 January 2018 20: 01
                    +7
                    Quote: alexmach
                    Lybid is a proper name and not a swan.

                    Duc for the princess is also kind of like a proper name then. Tsarevna is she. Swan ....... So what AU ...., dancing and not past the cash register. But what about Rimsky-Korsakov and Vrubel ???? Che, not that either? Do not dance ..... ????? Ay, yay, yay ..... Oh, what a sadness. No, you definitely need to Pharion ......
                    Well and still ... From the immortal -
                    Oh, how many wonderful discoveries to us
                    Prepare an enlightened spirit,
                    And the experience of the son of errors difficult,
                    And genius, the paradoxes friend
                    Dare, and the glory of mykola galychanin will overtake you ......
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 12 January 2018 22: 44
                      0
                      Kostya, my respect hi Though I found you here. There will be time - let me know. There is a thing. drinks
                    2. Filxnumx
                      Filxnumx 13 January 2018 09: 05
                      0
                      Well, what did not bring the TSA quote to its logical conclusion ?. Ile without Vicki no longer remember that:
                      And the case, god is the inventor.
                      or maybe you are not a native speaker
              4. purple
                purple 12 January 2018 21: 07
                0
                Well, not knowing the story, grabbing at the top of the "Ukrainian" begins some kind of nonsense. What is it there? In Vladimir, for example, there is a stadium with the name Lybed ..
                We Russians know our history ... we do not need to invent fantasies and pass this off as history.
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 12 January 2018 22: 05
                  +1
                  I grabbed on top? And you and the commentators above, such as the one to which I probably answered, have just demonstrated the depth of my knowledge?
                  Quote: elektroleg
                  Isn't Lybid ridiculous? For me - so this is the one who constantly smiles


                  What is it there? In Vladimir, for example, there is a stadium with the name Lybed ..
                  We Russians know our history ... we do not need to invent fantasies and pass this off as history.

                  Right? Then conduct a mental experiment, you, the “Russians,” “knowing” your story, and think about where you are, under the friendly “hee-hee” you just didn't give a damn.
                  1. Vlad.by
                    Vlad.by 12 January 2018 23: 09
                    +4
                    In fact, one attentive person noted an interesting feature of reading the word on the contrary. Actually where does the Ukrainian language?
                    Maybe you should not tear the vest on the chest? Well, you are a native speaker or not a native speaker - neither you personally, nor the Ukrainians were indiscriminately and specifically no one was going to offend. As an example, I will give a story with the renaming of a renos car Kalos. After all, no one in France had the idea to tear a throat on the topic of misinterpretation of the name. Just quietly took and renamed for the Russian market.
              5. eugraphus
                eugraphus 13 January 2018 02: 16
                0
                -Mykla, wondering how Muscovites feel called - PI-IVO !!! Wow would leave!
                Just jokes, and you have a provocation to incite ethnic hatred.
              6. sogdy
                sogdy 13 January 2018 19: 01
                +1
                Quote: alexmach
                Only now the name is in Ukraine the last 100 years, the polar and "their",

                As a "native speaker" you, apparently, know its etymology, and, accordingly, where these very words are kept.
                So, in your place, I would not insist on your submission, but confined myself to the politically correct Swan.
            2. captain
              captain 12 January 2018 18: 29
              +6
              Poor Russia owes it to everyone, it bothers everyone, its trace and its aggressiveness are visible everywhere. The guys in the West raised a monster! I read and involuntarily pride begins to burst. To whom should we not be in the World and whom we have not offended?
          3. activator
            activator 12 January 2018 18: 37
            +1
            Quote: alexmach
            To fuck it, damn it, not a swan nirazu, with the legendary co-founder of Kiev

            Yes, that's right. Lybid is the sister of Kia, Cheek and the choir.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 13 January 2018 02: 10
              +3
              Quote: activator
              Yes, that's right. Lybid is the sister of Kia, Cheek and the choir.

              There is another version: Lybid - the daughter of Kia. And because of her pickiness in the suitors, she remained in the old maids. After the death of her father, she was forced to move to a simple hut on the outskirts of the city, where she ended her days. If you were in Kiev, then this story was told at one time by the guides at the Decimal Church of the upper city. Rather, the remains of the foundation of this legendary structure ... But then we were brothers, then there was the Soviet era ... Now the "brothers" became enemies, but not the peoples - Russian and Ukrainian. I am sure that history will put everything in its place, over time ...
              IMHO.
              1. Spez
                Spez 15 January 2018 12: 28
                +1
                There is another version that she did marry a European, but happiness did not last long, because she turned out to be a walker and was killed by a cuckold husband almost at the time of adultery.
          4. KaPToC
            KaPToC 12 January 2018 20: 53
            +2
            Quote: alexmach
            First, it’s ridiculous to laugh at a language you don’t understand. It's ridiculous and rude.

            Much depends on what language you speak. Is it like an advanced operating system for a computer or have you downloaded a simple MS-Dock into your computer? Going from a developed advanced language to a primitive dialect is ridiculous and rude.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 12 January 2018 22: 15
              +1
              Are you hinting at this message in Russian and Ukrainian? Is the Ukrainian language a primitive dialect? Listen, but in the laws of the country in which you live there is no criminal article about inciting ethnic hatred?
              1. KaPToC
                KaPToC 12 January 2018 23: 15
                +3
                Quote: alexmach
                Listen, but in the laws of the country in which you live there is no criminal article about inciting ethnic hatred?

                There is a law on inciting ethnic hatred, but there are two but.
                First, incitement of interethnic hatred within the country, and “differing” with the nations of other states can be arbitrary.
                Secondly, there is no interethnic discord if a less developed language is called less developed. The Ukrainian language has split off from Russian and is its lateral branch, only it is inferior to Russian in many respects. The Ukrainian language has long been just a dialect of Russian. Notice, I'm not trying to defame the Ukrainian language, but I'm not trying to embellish it either.
          5. a housewife
            a housewife 12 January 2018 21: 15
            +4
            Well, the founder. And her name means swan. So what? By the way, in Russian, both masculine and feminine, this bird is written the same way. White Swan. White swan. And, of course, no one would laugh, if the country was normal.
        3. PalBor
          PalBor 12 January 2018 18: 05
          +5
          Quote: elektroleg
          Isn't Lybid ridiculous? laughing For me - so this is the one who constantly smiles lol

          Really: Lybid, Ukurkosmos request
        4. The black
          The black 12 January 2018 18: 08
          +2
          Give me moneyXXX fiends .....
        5. sanja.grw
          sanja.grw 12 January 2018 18: 59
          13
          For that the cat in the Crimea was lucky
        6. GradusHuK
          GradusHuK 12 January 2018 22: 48
          0
          Sing me a swan, a white bird
          How I love him.
          Sing me a white swan bird
          How I love him.
          He flew away with a swan bird whom I love so much.
          White snow, white swan, whom I love so much.
      2. Proxima
        Proxima 12 January 2018 17: 49
        +5
        Quote: Muvka
        Ukrkosmos, even sounds ridiculous ...
        . The absurdity of Yuzhmash’s ambition! belay almost all components from Russia. I’m not talking about engines - the first stage, the second, upper stage .. Of course, you can’t say that a rocket is being assembled in Dnepropetrovsk, just like the Vietnamese are making down jackets in the basement, but you still need a conscience sad
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 12 January 2018 18: 40
          +3
          Quote: Proxima
          but you still need a conscience

          What conscience?
          in Kiev announced the breakdown of cooperation with the Russian Federation in the rocket and space industry.
          The ship had already sailed, for which they fought for it and ran into it.
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      4. sgazeev
        sgazeev 12 January 2018 18: 36
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        Ukrkosmos, even sounds ridiculous ...

        Beggars, give them all the trash from the Crimea along with a companion.
      5. Alex20042004
        Alex20042004 12 January 2018 18: 40
        +7
        I agree.
        And this is the first Ukrainian cosmonaft:
        1. a housewife
          a housewife 12 January 2018 21: 16
          +1
          So their rocket is hell? It can be seen...
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 13 January 2018 06: 06
          +1
          Quote: Alex20042004
          And this is the first Ukrainian cosmonaft:

          And the engine is imported! Millard!
      6. antivirus
        antivirus 12 January 2018 18: 48
        0
        ukromore - this is creative
        they dug themselves, themselves and stand firmly on its shore (not daring to swim (?)
        and ukrkosmos - to sell to NAS, Kazkosmos will be
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      8. Esoteric
        Esoteric 12 January 2018 18: 55
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        Ukrkosmos, even sounds ridiculous ...

        It sounds ridiculous: "UKROSOSMOS" ... lol
      9. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 12 January 2018 21: 28
        +2
        Quote: Muvka
        Ukrkosmos, even sounds ridiculous ...

        And do not say yes
      10. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 12 January 2018 23: 04
        +1
        Quote: Muvka
        Ukrkosmos, even sounds ridiculous ...


        why so? in my opinion even symbolically winked "Ukrainian" with anything to connect all the same associations are the same ...
      11. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 13 January 2018 06: 11
        +1
        Quote: Muvka
        Ukrkosmos, even sounds ridiculous.

        Well, why? Very consonant with Kukryniksy!
    2. volodya
      volodya 12 January 2018 17: 33
      12
      Quote: Observer2014
      but well-known events in Ukraine prevented the launch. A few months later in Kiev, they announced the severance of cooperation with the Russian Federation in the rocket and space industry.

      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 12 January 2018 17: 35
        +6
        Aha found fools on four soldi lol
        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 12 January 2018 17: 38
          +7
          And Lie on a barrel of gunpowder - let’s fly laughing
          1. d ^ Amir
            d ^ Amir 12 January 2018 17: 41
            +5
            Clever !!!!
        2. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 12 January 2018 17: 48
          +5
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          Aha found fools on four soldi lol

          Exactly ! Give them money to complete THEIR rocket to launch THEIR satellite from the space center rented by US! Nifiga yourself inquiries! Can I give you more keys, from a bank with a gold reserve ?!
          1. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 12 January 2018 23: 19
            0
            So after completing the rocket (hypothetically), Yuzhmash quite specifically knows now that he cannot transfer it to Russia purely legally. Laws from Ukraine prohibit.
            Dee and after non-returned gas turbines - who is with such a partner on the same field, i.e. sits out of need? Well, voiced the relics, amused the people, themselves warmed up by the expectations of manna from heaven. Mustache, that's enough.
    3. Maz
      Maz 12 January 2018 18: 18
      0
      It is strange that not 80 mulions requested, by Israeli banks and standards: a fine, plus interest for three years, for a cutaneous day no payment.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 13 January 2018 02: 30
        +2
        Quote: Maz
        It’s strange that not 80 mulins were requested,
        Yeah ... Here the brothers didn’t give a big blow !!! And boast - "Ukraine is tse Europe!" It’s a bit small for Europe ... Won the European Union for the pork we have not bought that they need to make as much as 1,5 billion euros ... That’s “tse - Europe!” .... However ...
        Quote: Maz
        by Israeli banks and standards: a fine, plus interest for three years, no payment for a cutaneous day.
        And here you can’t say better than this "cartoon"!
        Truly - a Jew = twice a crest!
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 12 January 2018 18: 55
      0
      Everyone from Russia wants something. And Wishlist do not fall off? lol
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 12 January 2018 17: 29
    +1
    To hell with them and not dollars. And take a satellite to yourself or sell it to anyone. Broke the relationship ?! Run from a slingshot!
  3. Rusland
    Rusland 12 January 2018 17: 30
    +8
    Perhaps they won’t complete it, all the more they promise to bring it to Baikonur, nasty.
  4. Vasya_Piterskiy
    Vasya_Piterskiy 12 January 2018 17: 32
    +1
    Pros ... if you are lads and Lybidya and everything else ...
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 12 January 2018 17: 33
    +4
    Yes, you throw this "swan" to the pike and the crab in the hole - let them three of them look for it wassat ! And let ukroine 8 million dollars, let the State Department pay - the concubine must ask for money from the owner, and not from "achressar" wassat !
  6. Dormidont
    Dormidont 12 January 2018 17: 33
    +1
    Lybid ... but no more obscene name on the moven?
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      2. urman
        urman 12 January 2018 17: 50
        +1
        laughing Yes, everything is correct, wrote (andrej-shironov)
        Ukraine is the same geyropa.
        The same European Union requires payment for pork, but they don’t remember about their sanctions.
        Type and that for what. Insolence for them is the second self. We were not the first to start, now let them slurp what they themselves brewed.
    2. a housewife
      a housewife 12 January 2018 21: 18
      +1
      So they broke the contracts! And suddenly they thought of it!
  8. mitrich
    mitrich 12 January 2018 17: 34
    +1
    Died so dead. In the furnace, not only Yuzhmash, but also the entire dill.
  9. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 12 January 2018 17: 35
    0
    What the fuck ????? This is the height of cynicism ...
  10. izya top
    izya top 12 January 2018 17: 37
    0
    trot as always-give pennies request
  11. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 12 January 2018 17: 38
    0
    Yuzhmash wants 8 million dollars from Russia


    And what about "residual proshchevay" ?! belay recourse
  12. Rokossovsky
    Rokossovsky 12 January 2018 17: 39
    +5
    Yuzhmash expects to receive 8,245 million US dollars. This will complete the assembly of the product and ship it to the Baikonur Cosmodrome for launch

    The answer should be something like this:
    PSA "Yantar" expects to receive gas turbines for frigates pr.11356. This will complete the construction of the ships and transfer them to the Black Sea Fleet for service.
  13. Simon
    Simon 12 January 2018 17: 39
    +4
    I nevermind in their nose! Also show them the bill for storing their satellite in our warehouse! fool
  14. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 12 January 2018 17: 42
    +6
    On Lybid require 8 with tail lyamov. How much, interestingly, Ukrainian fantasies with the names of Kiy and Schek and Khoriv will cost. It's funny, but it feels like even if someone transfers money to them, this miracle will never reach Baikonur. moreover, it won’t leave the factory.
    1. assa67
      assa67 12 January 2018 18: 07
      +6
      Basil hi .... and what expensive transit ... we give shaggy 8 lyamas, for delivery we take 10 laughing ... although it’s better to throw them over the fence, let it rot ...
      1. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 12 January 2018 22: 29
        +4
        Good day, Andrew.
        How much the launch costs - I don’t know (I didn’t dig the topic), but I’m sure that only contact these .... problematic comrades and troubles will fall above the roof. And no two (three, five, but at least twenty five!) Lyamas will not cover image losses, if something happens with this wonderful companion. And what will happen is beyond doubt. People and nursing at the enterprise were hungry. They steal half, half will go to pay off debts for the salary, and the rest will evaporate in an unknown direction. And there will be a situation:
        Our Lybid fell into the swamp
        Kaya salary is such a job.
        And Russia will be to blame for everything.
        1. tsvetkov1274
          tsvetkov1274 12 January 2018 23: 44
          +1
          he is in a deplorable state in the ISS im.Reshetneva, Krasn.kray
        2. assa67
          assa67 13 January 2018 01: 19
          +6
          I agree .... from the dawn of the epic "we rumbled pypyski and on the pomp of the daunting plucker pliers dergaly
  15. Vanin
    Vanin 12 January 2018 17: 48
    +3
    The press service of the Ukrainian Yuzhmash said

    Boldly...! As I understand it, from the Yuzhmash enterprise, only the press service remains?
    "Lybid" you still leg and fan of the very one in .... on .. etc. ..))))
    I said everything like ..!
  16. Monarchist
    Monarchist 12 January 2018 17: 49
    +1
    And who does not need money? We decided in Yuzhmash
  17. Elephant
    Elephant 12 January 2018 18: 00
    0
    It is necessary to invoice ukram for storing their satellite or disassemble for parts.
  18. ded100
    ded100 12 January 2018 18: 00
    +9
    God will give Ukrainians! am
  19. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 12 January 2018 18: 07
    +1
    Yeah, we’ll bring it, on a plate with a blue border tongue
  20. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 12 January 2018 18: 12
    +2
    You can also return the satellite to them)))
    1. Going
      Going 12 January 2018 18: 51
      +3
      Quote: Geisenberg
      You can also return the satellite to them)))


      So the satellite is made in my Canada.
  21. ustinov.yuri
    ustinov.yuri 12 January 2018 18: 13
    +3
    I’ll try to systematize: the rocket is assembled from our components, they want money for assembly. The satellite was made by us, they are not going to pay for it, they do not ask for the satellite, they do not have a launch site. What is the problem? To pay them for the rocket, will they give it up or not (the rocket) is a big question. Next: should the rocket paid by us launch their unpaid satellite from our launch site? What buoy? Cho smokes their bosses?
  22. Wolka
    Wolka 12 January 2018 18: 26
    0
    now only their ears from a dead donkey ...
  23. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 12 January 2018 18: 32
    +2
    Why not 8 trillion? It's a bit small somehow. What, damn it, is there already no money for a corporate party, or what? Yuzhmash, paton, stick-trees, where is it all? Yes, you catapulted, idiots, into the BLACK HOLE, huh? Together with their jules, teddy bears, donkeys, drunks, and so on. fascists. Come, Satan, this year.
  24. gukoyan
    gukoyan 12 January 2018 18: 41
    0
    Well, if Ukraine broke off relations, let it be a forest. Recovered after half a year, made friends with Estonians?)
  25. Going
    Going 12 January 2018 18: 46
    +3
    The satellite’s launch into orbit was supposed to take place in January 2014, but well-known events in Ukraine prevented the launch. A few months later in Kiev, they announced the severance of cooperation with the Russian Federation in the rocket and space industry.


    Apparently, things are really bad, at first they tear everything, and now they suddenly remembered - the artists.
    1. 97110
      97110 12 January 2018 19: 37
      +8
      Quote: Going
      Apparently, things are really bad, at first they tear everything, and now they suddenly remembered - the artists.

      I wrote like that already. At the time of the independence of the VDRP (Volga-Don River Shipping Company, the city of Rostov-on-Don) received a malicious telegram from Makeevka that you, Muscovites, and not harsh slag (a free translation from the Russian text of the telegram). Well figs, so figs. Harshlag went to the Volga, if I remember, to the Apple Ravine. We stopped carrying, like the Volgars began to take gravel slag in the Shard. After three or four years, Makeyevka modestly reminded us that for some reason we did not take gravel slag from them. And she expressed hope for fruitful cooperation. Our answer was silence.
      1. Going
        Going 12 January 2018 20: 15
        +3
        A very colorful example ..., in this case, Ukraine had to pay Russia about a hundred million dollars. , of which Russia would pay Yuzhmash, there’s nothing further to talk about ...
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 12 January 2018 20: 44
      +3
      Quote: Going
      Apparently, things are bad

      The ass is full there, but not bad things. I thought here - and a misunderstanding far mushroom count roll out? What about Nazarbayev for the virgin land? With this 404th, it’s not even possible to pay for DneproGES at all. Yes, it’s just stupid, we don’t jerk. Flight of norms. What to take something from the poor, even bite them scary.
      1. Going
        Going 12 January 2018 20: 57
        +4
        Only this does not make it easier for us, it's all at our gates.
      2. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 12 January 2018 23: 13
        +1
        Quote: iliitch
        Quote: Going
        Apparently, things are bad

        The ass is full there, but not bad things. I thought here - and a misunderstanding far mushroom count roll out? What about Nazarbayev for the virgin land? With this 404th, it’s not even possible to pay for DneproGES at all. Yes, it’s just stupid, we don’t jerk. Flight of norms. What to take something from the poor, even bite them scary.


        why is there a portrait of Poroshenko ?? belay no, well understand holidays ... but why should the president take a picture ??
  26. prior
    prior 12 January 2018 18: 50
    0
    3 "lard" zaguchili, and 8 "lemons" require?!?!
    Interesting arithmetic for kaklov.
    1. 97110
      97110 12 January 2018 19: 39
      +1
      Quote: prior
      3 "lard" zaguchili, and 8 "lemons" require?!?!
      Interesting arithmetic for kaklov.

      Different legal entities. You do not answer for the debts of neighbors and namesakes. Although in general you are right.
  27. The Grubby
    The Grubby 12 January 2018 19: 20
    +1
    "Lybid"


    Well, it’s necessary to spoil the beautiful word “Swan”! The cat (in Ukrainian. Whale) is resting.
  28. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 12 January 2018 19: 31
    0
    Yuzhmash wants 8 million dollars from Russia

    In medicine, and not only in medicine, to those who want but cannot, there is a very definite name.
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 12 January 2018 23: 28
      0
      Is this a big deal?
  29. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 12 January 2018 19: 51
    0
    The whole world owes neighbors.
  30. Berkut24
    Berkut24 12 January 2018 19: 52
    +1
    The satellite’s launch into orbit was supposed to take place in January 2014, but well-known events in Ukraine prevented the launch.

    I will clarify the essence of the problem. Lybit was built by order of Ukraine in Russia by a Russian company. But Ukraine has not yet paid for the satellite. The satellite’s shelf life has now expired and some components need replacing. But Ukraine also does not give money for this. So the question is who owes to whom actually from the category of "I remember here, but I don’t remember here."
  31. Azazelo
    Azazelo 12 January 2018 19: 53
    0
    Ukrainians in the end fucked up !!! (you can of course ban modera, I’ll start a new account)
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  33. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 12 January 2018 20: 02
    +1
    Quote: Rude
    "Lybid"


    Well, it’s necessary to spoil the beautiful word “Swan”! The cat (in Ukrainian. Whale) is resting.

    If you only knew the word stool in Ukrainian! lol
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 12 January 2018 21: 22
      +1
      Oh no! wassat By the way, the cat in Ukrainian is a whale, our word “kitty” comes from this, and the whale in Ukrainian is a kit. If I am not mistaken. Are Ukrainians here? Tell me.
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 13 January 2018 00: 12
        0
        Irina, hi It just so happened, I was interested in the word "pischak" - they said "cat" in Ukrainian. I can not vouch for reliability. request
      2. Antares
        Antares 13 January 2018 00: 46
        0
        Quote: housewife
        If I am not mistaken. Are Ukrainians here? Tell me.

        if I say that you're right, do you think it will help? For the great-power Russians, all that is not clear is worthy of ridicule ... some Ukrainians are exactly the "great power" .. so there is parity.
        1. a housewife
          a housewife 13 January 2018 23: 48
          +1
          For normal Russians, there are normal Ukrainians. And we laugh at others.
    2. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 12 January 2018 23: 15
      0
      Quote: Dzafdet
      Quote: Rude
      "Lybid"


      Well, it’s necessary to spoil the beautiful word “Swan”! The cat (in Ukrainian. Whale) is resting.

      If you only knew the word stool in Ukrainian! lol


      I was told in childhood ... "fagot" winked I believed ...
    3. eugraphus
      eugraphus 13 January 2018 02: 39
      0
      There are many Ukrainian "languages". We said in the Donbass - stool, stilchik.
      Now zapadentsy are trying to throw out words similar to Russian from the Ukrainian language and replace them. For example - there was a "teacher" (teacher), it became a "brightener"
  34. groks
    groks 12 January 2018 20: 06
    0
    If we translate from journalistic into human, it will probably turn out like this. Russia ordered Yuzhmash rocket. Yuzhmash makes a rocket and to complete the production you need how much money.
    To draw any conclusions, you need to know at least a little what is in the contracts. And then I also want money, if I do what to anyone. And desire is normal.
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 12 January 2018 20: 18
      0
      I remember how some American office proposed to sell a large batch of tractors to the tsarist government and asked for an advance for the goods. But as it quickly turned out, with the money received, the company was going to build a plant, where to produce the indicated tractors)))
      "I need to complete the study another 5 years and 5 million dollars, but I have already built a mathematical model of a spherical horse in a vacuum" (c)
      1. groks
        groks 12 January 2018 20: 30
        0
        It seems that Galkovsky was talking about steam locomotives from Sweden. Most likely a rollback option. But maybe that rollback was needed for survival.
        Without knowing the specifics, you can invent anything.
  35. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 12 January 2018 20: 20
    0
    Guys, ask for the indicated amount of gold Half-time, when the Anglo-Saxons deign to return it with interest for 300 years)))
  36. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 12 January 2018 21: 18
    +4
    If
    in Kiev announced the breakdown of cooperation with the Russian Federation in the rocket and space industry
    then what kind of money are we talking about? Goodbye, a hole in a bagel from you in one place.
  37. Gleb Molchanov
    Gleb Molchanov 12 January 2018 21: 33
    0
    Billing for storage.
  38. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 12 January 2018 22: 09
    +1
    Russia should transfer about $ 8,25 million to the enterprise

    that kaklov, that psheks have an eternal feeling that they all owe something to them, soon they will surpass other "special" and "God-chosen" ones
  39. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 12 January 2018 22: 37
    0
    Give for just 8,25 million dollars for Petya Valtsman. It is necessary to be so smart ...
  40. Terenin
    Terenin 12 January 2018 23: 16
    +5
    Yuzhmash wants 8 million dollars from Russia yes, judging by your unpredictable behavior and imagination, ask for $ 80 million.
  41. Nord2015
    Nord2015 12 January 2018 23: 26
    0
    Let them first pay for the proposed launch of this money and pay Yuzhmash. In general, this situation is common for 404 - come on. I recall Ukraine’s attempt to charge for the passage of ships from the Sea of ​​Azov to the Black Sea in 2003.
  42. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 12 January 2018 23: 45
    0
    You can give it back. But only in exchange for paying off the sovereign debt of Ukraine to the Russian Federation wassat
  43. kriwo.alek
    kriwo.alek 12 January 2018 23: 49
    0
    Many want, few get. Died so dead.
  44. AID.S
    AID.S 13 January 2018 00: 04
    0
    The "first Ukrainian satellite" is stored on the territory of the Russian Federation.

    It is necessary to proliferate and paint in yellow-black color with oil paint.
  45. Antares
    Antares 13 January 2018 00: 56
    0
    The manufacturer is the Russian company Information Satellite Systems (ISS) named after Academician Reshetnev. Since then, Ukraine has been paying for its preservation and storage in warehouses in the Russian Federation for more than four years. Most likely, Kiev also owed it to the device itself - ISS produces satellites from parts ordered from abroad at its own expense. But such contracts are classified, and it is impossible to calculate the exact economics of the project, "the expert notes ....

    The Ukrainian company Yuzhmash on its website posted plans for 2018, one of the points is the launch of the first telecommunications satellite Lybid into orbit. The contract was concluded in the "zero" years. “We ordered the production of one Zenit-2SLB launch vehicle. The customer is FSUE Center for the Operation of Terrestrial Space Infrastructure. To complete this contract, Yuzhmash expects to receive $ 8,245 million, this will complete the assembly of the product, as well as ship it to the Baikonur Cosmodrome for launch, "it was informed.

    “This money should be allocated by the Ukrainian government - if it is found, the satellite can be launched. The specific satellite under the project is“ tied ”to a specific type of rocket, changing the type of carrier is undesirable and will require additional investments. But, as far as is known, Roscosmos has one Zenit rocket, which can be used to fulfill the contract.

    On the other hand, a satellite can be sold both on the ground and after being put into orbit. Although it is doubtful that there would be a buyer for such a specific product. Roscosmos is interested in fulfilling the contract - this is its direct profit. But in extreme cases, the contract can be terminated, especially since each agreement has a warranty period, and each device has a storage period. Now the situation, Kiev "hung in the air" - apparently, before making political and financial decisions, "- said the specialist ....
    At the end of December 2017, the Canadian company MDA stopped cooperation with Ukraine on the launch of the Lybid telecommunications satellite - it was she who allocated $ 2011 million in 292 under the guarantees of the Ukrainian government for the design, creation and launch of the satellite. In the process of transferring funds, Kiev used the offshore company Briklin Limited, during the transfer through which $ 8 million disappeared - the money did not come to Yuzhmash ...
    You need to fulfill several conditions. First, of course, Kiev will have to find the money to complete the project. The second - it is necessary to conduct an audit of the contract concluded with the Russian Federation in the initial contract in order to find out how much Kiev has remained owing to the results of four years of ISS Reshetnev - it is very possible that not all obligations are settled. There are also insurance issues and other points of a complex contract, which also apply financial penalties ....
    FBA "Economics Today" - Head of the Space Policy Institute Ivan Moiseev ....
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 13 January 2018 01: 34
      +2
      laughing good So the story turns out to be even funnier than the article says - the Canadians were thrown at the loot, We are out of business, we are sitting quietly and waiting when these horses will finish their rocket, the storage counter is ticking and more and more “puts the horses” on the headstock. And these clever men under this kolenkor decided to cut down dough from the courts from Russia laughing laughing . I could only expect such a joke from zadornov (the deceased), but that in real life from legal entities - this would "go into anal sex"
  46. akm8226
    akm8226 13 January 2018 01: 02
    +1
    He wants to want something ... but who will give him?)))
  47. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 January 2018 03: 24
    0
    Yuzhmash wants 8 million dollars from Russia

    Taki Russia does not want !!! laughing
  48. Koronik
    Koronik 13 January 2018 07: 00
    0
    “Lybid” is a geostationary telecommunications satellite, which was built by order of Ukrkosmos to create the Ukrainian national satellite broadcasting system. “It’s being built for Ukraine, but Russia, don’t get the money, take your scrap metal in Crimea, hand it over and complete it.
  49. kdakda
    kdakda 13 January 2018 10: 18
    0
    Eh, the Ukrainian patriot did not fly into space. Bendera in space, ahahahaha, I am still laughing.
    1. andron-30
      andron-30 13 January 2018 12: 04
      +1
      and why bring extra cholesterol into space, obviously the fat shmat would not have cost
  50. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 13 January 2018 11: 53
    0
    And they didn’t want the “key to the apartment where the money is”? Dreaming is not harmful, and most importantly for free ...