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In Ukraine, they want to resume the production of "almost nuclear" missiles

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In Ukraine, attempts are being made to resume the program for the production of missiles "close" to nuclear weapons due to destructive force. This was stated by the former head of the country's Defense Ministry, Anatoly Gritsenko, on the air on the 112 Ukraine TV channel.


According to the ex-minister, this is a project of the multifunctional missile system Sapsan, which is to replace the corresponding Soviet-made equipment.

In Ukraine, they want to resume the production of "almost nuclear" missiles

Illustration on the theme of the creation of the Ukrainian complex "Sapsan"


There is an opportunity to talk not about nuclear ammunition, but about high-power ammunition, which in their effect are not nuclear, but are close to that in terms of destructive power.
- declared Gritsenko.

We remind you that in 2006, the Security Council of Ukraine signed an agreement with the Dnepropetrovsk design bureau Yuzhnoye on the development of the multifunctional missile operational-tactical project Sapsan. Initially, the complex was supposed to enter service with the Ukrainian army in 2011-2012, however, due to insufficient funding, it was not possible to complete the development as scheduled. In 2013, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine abandoned this project altogether due to the inefficient use of state budget funds.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 11 January 2018 20: 17
    49
    Here in Ukraine over the past 30 years, almost ALMOST ... Almost a country, almost Europe, almost satiety, almost civilization, almost a president and almost people's power (according to the ideas of the Maidan) ... well, almost the military-industrial complex.
    1. Going
      Going 11 January 2018 20: 20
      +8
      In 2013, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine generally abandoned this project due to the inefficient use of state budget funds.

      And now everything is being used effectively. laughing
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 11 January 2018 20: 23
        +9
        Quote: Going
        And now everything is being used effectively.

        One thing is for sure, in Ukraine, good artists ... paint breakthrough combat systems in the conveyor mode. I wonder where is the well-drawn Tirex-Thunderstorm tank of Almaty and all Muscovites in the compartment?
        1. Going
          Going 11 January 2018 20: 27
          +7
          Only in the mock-up version, for another penny is dumb or small, there is not enough pocket. lol
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 11 January 2018 20: 28
            +6
            Quote: Going
            Only in the mock-up version, for another penny is dumb or small, there is not enough pocket. lol

            Well, yes, the Pan (Gritian Tauride) chieftain has no gold reserves ... soon the lads will start to scatter in all directions ...
            1. Going
              Going 11 January 2018 20: 35
              +5
              Although they have not bad specialists, they are still from the Soviet school, but not fate.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 11 January 2018 20: 48
                +5
                Vit, as it seems, many of the local specialists have already made their legs out of nenki.
                1. Going
                  Going 11 January 2018 21: 01
                  +2
                  Yes, and almost all of us, but something else can, with a lot of funding, this is only theoretically.
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 11 January 2018 21: 03
                    +5
                    Quote: Going
                    with a lot of funding, this is only theoretically.

                    And what striped doodle would give them money for this? what
                    1. Going
                      Going 11 January 2018 21: 15
                      +2
                      The Saudis have already fallen off and they are making Thunder for them.
                      1. bouncyhunter
                        bouncyhunter 11 January 2018 21: 26
                        +3
                        In the know, but in vain ...
                      2. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 12 January 2018 14: 16
                        0
                        Well, here again, "ALMOST." that is, it’s not that they dumped it, but they finance the development, and then very carefully. there will be results, there will be an order, but there are no results yet. after the epic with armored personnel carriers and tanks ukrov reputation so-so ...
                  2. Non liberoid Russian
                    Non liberoid Russian 12 January 2018 01: 29
                    0
                    In China they are the majority
                2. Going
                  Going 11 January 2018 21: 28
                  +2
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  In the know, but in vain ...


                  It is clear, but when your family is hungry and there is nowhere to live, it is very unpleasant for us.
                  1. Thrall
                    Thrall 11 January 2018 22: 26
                    +3
                    Ukraine. To the rats with the kids. Crazy dismantled the gas column, because there is Russian gas smile
              2. LSA57
                LSA57 11 January 2018 20: 49
                +9
                Quote: Going
                Although they have not bad specialists, they are still from the Soviet school, but not fate.

                they fled, these remained laughing
                1. Going
                  Going 11 January 2018 21: 24
                  +2
                  No, Sergei is still there and they are hungry, this is the whole danger.
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 11 January 2018 21: 55
                    +1
                    this is true - in a hungry man neither conscience nor honor - only the stomach
                  2. LSA57
                    LSA57 11 January 2018 22: 07
                    +2
                    Quote: Going
                    No, Sergei is still there and they are hungry, this is the whole danger.

                    I’m not going to feed them. let them get their own food. where is the food they know
              3. Captain Nemo
                Captain Nemo 11 January 2018 23: 47
                +7
                Specialists are aging and retiring, some to a different world. Estimate how old these specialists are today. We have won how many years money has already begun to tumble into the military-industrial complex, otherwise a sensor that doesn’t get into the connector because of "protection from a fool" will be hammered with a hammer, or else they will forget ... In science and technology there is such a thing as "school". This is when the luminaries of the young learn and educate from coming after high school to becoming winged. This is what was lost. We just started catching up and correcting mistakes, while Ukrainians have nothing to do.
            2. kefan
              kefan 11 January 2018 22: 02
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              Well, yes, the Pan (Gritian Tauride) chieftain has no gold reserves ... soon the lads will start to scatter in all directions ..

              You are mistaken a little, the chieftain has a reserve, but only hefty for himself.
          2. Vanin
            Vanin 11 January 2018 20: 35
            +4
            There is an opportunity to talk not about nuclear ammunition, but about high-power ammunition, which in their effect are not nuclear, but are close to that in terms of destructive power.

            For ISIS, by order of the USA .. But they will produce and distribute! Warehouses are military, then the USSR devastated already ...
            Kiev must be taken unequivocally, otherwise they will create such a thing there (under US control), the whole world will shudder! And Russia will again be to blame for not keeping track of and allowing, etc ...
            1. Going
              Going 11 January 2018 20: 41
              +2
              Vitaly, I understand everything, but they will not succeed, I mean quickly, even when opening financing.
          3. vlad66
            vlad66 11 January 2018 21: 26
            11
            Quote: Going
            Only in the mock-up version, for another penny is dumb or small, not enough for a pocket. lol

            They can do a lot, terrible ones. fellow
          4. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 11 January 2018 22: 03
            +1
            Quote: Going
            Only in mock-up version

            Damn it, but, after all, they have several decent offices producing prefabricated models. True, casting, nevertheless, doesn’t interfere with some people.
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 11 January 2018 20: 45
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          I wonder where is the well-drawn Tirex-Thunderstorm tank of Almaty and all Muscovites in the compartment?

          the boy who drew it has not yet grown laughing
          Sharia had such a plot. there a 10 year old "chenius" teaches designers how to make tanks laughing
        3. alexmach
          alexmach 11 January 2018 22: 06
          0
          This is not a completely correct comparison after all, it was a piece of work by crazy people from Azov to compare them with a serious design bureau and a factory that were one of the strongest links in the Soviet military-industrial complex, all the same, is not correct. Even despite the decadent state in which these design bureaus and the plant are now.
        4. Serg koma
          Serg koma 11 January 2018 22: 55
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          I wonder where so well drawn tank Tirex thunderstorm of Almaty
          Where, where, everything is there - on paper!
    2. 210ox
      210ox 11 January 2018 20: 26
      +3
      And in the end, almost a kaput ...
      Quote: NEXUS
      Here in Ukraine over the past 30 years, almost ALMOST ... Almost a country, almost Europe, almost satiety, almost civilization, almost a president and almost people's power (according to the ideas of the Maidan) ... well, almost the military-industrial complex.
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 11 January 2018 20: 42
      +5
      Quote: NEXUS
      Here in Ukraine the last 30 years, almost ALMOST ...

      only now they steal not ALMOST laughing
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 11 January 2018 20: 48
        +3
        Quote: LSA57
        only now they steal not ALMOST

        This is their national sport. wink
        1. Going
          Going 11 January 2018 21: 09
          +3
          This has already become the meaning of life.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 11 January 2018 21: 11
            +3
            Yeah, like the sweet word "freebie." lol
            1. Going
              Going 11 January 2018 21: 25
              +3
              So, and the dumplings themselves in the mouth, it's a classic.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 11 January 2018 21: 32
                +3
                Wow, the black mri of dill ... lol
                1. Going
                  Going 11 January 2018 21: 33
                  +3
                  And that would be patted on the stomach.
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 11 January 2018 21: 24
          +2
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          This is their national sport.

          such a fun. not wink winery
      2. faiver
        faiver 12 January 2018 04: 55
        0
        so we have "not almost" hi
    4. RASKAT
      RASKAT 11 January 2018 20: 47
      0
      Well, even if they create a rocket, which I strongly doubt. Firstly, what blocks will you put on it? There is not a single research reactor in the country, not a single reactor producing plutonium, zero fuel reserves, not a single institute on these issues. Where are you going to mine uranium? Or do you think someone will sell it to you? The second is where to experience such a rocket. Which country will the flight routes go through? Are you out of your mind there? Did dill get smoked?
      Insanity grows stronger, from year to year fool
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 11 January 2018 21: 26
        +1
        Quote: RASKAT
        There is not a single research reactor in the country, not a single reactor producing plutonium, zero fuel reserves, not a single institute on these issues. Where are you going to mine uranium?

        so they’re not going to do nuclear
        There is an opportunity to talk not about nuclear ammunition, but about high-power ammunition, which in their effect are not nuclear, but are close to that in terms of destructive power.
        - declared Gritsenko.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 11 January 2018 21: 59
          +3
          Sergey, hi you think correctly. The question is, how are they going to shove so much TNT into the rocket?
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 11 January 2018 22: 11
            +2
            Quote: sabakina
            The question is, how are they going to shove so much TNT into the rocket?

            they’re not going to shove anything there. Another PR. like this laughing
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 11 January 2018 22: 43
          0
          Probably a ton warhead - a volumetric explosion.
    5. Dormidont
      Dormidont 11 January 2018 20: 54
      0
      Svidomity-have become almost people
    6. Trevis
      Trevis 11 January 2018 21: 42
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      last 30 years all ALMOST

      almost over power laughing
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 11 January 2018 20: 19
    +2
    "close" to nuclear in striking power. This was stated by the former head of the Ministry of Defense of the country Anatoly Gritsenko on the air of the channel "112 Ukraine".
    It's like being a little pregnant. laughingNothing can be compared to a nuclear warhead. Do not feed on illusions.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 11 January 2018 22: 04
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      It's like being a little pregnant.

      In their version - alternatively pregnant. wassat Like there at Pushkin: "... but to the unknown animal ..."
  3. polpot
    polpot 11 January 2018 20: 22
    0
    We realized that only the second Chernobyl will save the Ukrainian economy
    1. 210ox
      210ox 11 January 2018 20: 28
      +1
      How is it? Will everyone stand in line to give long-term loans? .... Whatever God forbid, didn’t they?
      Quote: polpot
      We realized that only the second Chernobyl will save the Ukrainian economy
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 11 January 2018 21: 27
      +1
      Quote: polpot
      We realized that only the second Chernobyl will save the Ukrainian economy

      the second Chernobyl will save the world from the new advent of fascism
  4. ded100
    ded100 11 January 2018 20: 24
    11
    So many Wishlist from them in recent years that takes horror!
    1. izya top
      izya top 11 January 2018 21: 17
      +3
      Quote: ded100
      So many Wishlist from them in recent years that takes horror!

  5. engineer74
    engineer74 11 January 2018 20: 24
    +2
    That is, Kim in the DPRK is "insane" and he can’t rockets, but can hell’s big top in Kiev? Let's go far ... recourse
    1. Kamchatsky
      Kamchatsky 11 January 2018 20: 33
      +1
      "Well this is our s..n son," as they think.
  6. svp67
    svp67 11 January 2018 20: 26
    +2
    Peregrine Falcon ???????? But what about the more modern Thunder? All "thundered" his?
    1. Going
      Going 11 January 2018 20: 37
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      Peregrine Falcon ???????? But what about the more modern Thunder? All "thundered" his?


      They themselves are already confused, but really want to.
    2. Equalized
      Equalized 11 January 2018 20: 38
      +1
      Thunder is an export missile system for KSA, you know that very well.
      For MOU, they can make and call it at least “Owl” on its basis.
      Business has been given a move; it is a matter of time and money.

      The name has no meaning. R&D was carried out on the export project, the production of individual components and components was established on it. For themselves, they can already collect from this.

      Thunder has a range limit of 300 km under a rocket technology sales agreement. Although the dimensions of the engine (3150kg) allow you to have a range of more than 400 km. For the MOU, in the case of an order, the range will most likely squeeze out all the juices from the solid propellant rocket engine.
      1. Going
        Going 11 January 2018 20: 48
        +2
        Probably, the emphasis on the other is money and time, but they still retained the opportunity.
      2. Antares
        Antares 11 January 2018 23: 11
        0
        Quote: Equalized
        300 km under a contract for the sale of rocket technology

        280 km
        Quote: Equalized
        Although the dimensions of the engine (3150kg) allow you to have a range of more than 400 km

        ours want almost 600 km
      3. svp67
        svp67 12 January 2018 14: 47
        +2
        Quote: Equalized
        Thunder is an export missile system for KSA, you know that very well.

        "Thunder-2" and export, but there was also "Thunder-1"
        By the way, in the picture to the article, an older version of OTR "Borisfen", "Sapsan" looks like this ...
  7. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 11 January 2018 20: 30
    +6
    There will be a solvent customer, who can bet on thieving little hands, and for failure to fulfill obligations to get on the back of the moon - they will certainly be able to. All the developments are there - both in the chassis, and in the rocket, and in the ACS.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 11 January 2018 20: 39
      +3
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      All the developments are there - both in the chassis, and in the rocket, and in the ACS.

      I do not believe . There are no developments in the brains; the latter have been blamed for Ynke.
      1. Equalized
        Equalized 11 January 2018 20: 42
        +2
        Everything they have and is being done on an export order. Brains, power. They have everything.
        There was no money, so for the time of independence the OTRK did not appear until Saudi Arabia fit into the project and gave money.

        Ukraine has a big problem - there is the production of a huge number of different components, but to collect them together into the final product, money is needed, but they were not there and now the state does not particularly allocate many military orders.
        1. Dormidont
          Dormidont 11 January 2018 20: 56
          +4
          Do not build illusions. That was all. Pigsty left
          1. Equalized
            Equalized 11 January 2018 20: 59
            +2
            They didn’t have nichrome. Yes, Ukraine had 3 Soviet air armies, a huge military-industrial complex and a million-strong group of troops after the collapse of the USSR. But this does not mean that they really started from the level of "Second France".

            You understand that the Ukrainian SSR was a part of the system, the economy of the Ukrainian SSR as such was part of a huge system, and without this system itself it would not represent ANYTHING. In 90x, it was necessary to carry out simply unrealistic reforms in order to rise, and hell is clear in the post-Soviet space, this has not happened anywhere. The Ukrainian economy at the time of the end of the 90x-beginning of the 2000x was not able to contain such an army and military-industrial complex. There’s no reason for nothing. Therefore, from here the collapse of the army and the collapse of the military-industrial complex.

            In Russia, the situation was greatly saved by natural resources and the infusion of money into these areas, then the export of products.
        2. Ren
          Ren 11 January 2018 21: 03
          +3
          Quote: Equalized
          Everything they have and is being done on an export order. Brains, power. They have everything.

          Be careful, this was not about missiles, they knew how to do it, but about warheads with power commensurate with nuclear warheads - and this is tight. hi
          True, you can tato-bo'n'mbu, Mriya (An-225) they still seem to have wassat
          1. vlad66
            vlad66 11 January 2018 21: 32
            +7
            Quote: Ren
            Mriya (An-225) they still seem to have

            Mriy many enterprises of the USSR built, and not just Ukraine. hi
            1. Ren
              Ren 12 January 2018 16: 17
              0
              Quote: vlad66
              Mriy many enterprises of the USSR built, and not just Ukraine.

              That was built by many, with 100% raw materials (metal), 80% of the components were the RSFSR, the Ukrainian SSR was only an assembly, but when it was divided, it went to Ukraine. what
  8. Rusland
    Rusland 11 January 2018 20: 37
    +9
    Follow the behavior of the curator, he is calm. As soon as, doubtfully, things go uphill, all this will be covered up and something from BU will be steamed into them.
  9. Simon
    Simon 11 January 2018 20: 43
    +1
    I wonder where they will experience it. If anything happens. what
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 11 January 2018 20: 46
      +3
      In Ukraine, there is no suitable testing ground for missiles of such a range.
      The Saudi "Thunder" will have to be tested in the Saudi country when it is finished. And if they will buy them for the Armed Forces, you will have to shoot either at sea or with a range limiter.


      For MLRS "Alder" landfill (or rather a unique reserve) found, at 70 km total wink laughing
      1. poquello
        poquello 11 January 2018 21: 16
        +3
        Quote: Equalized
        when it's finished.

        this is the correct postscript
  10. Old26
    Old26 11 January 2018 20: 48
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Going
    And now everything is being used effectively.

    One thing is for sure, in Ukraine, good artists ... paint breakthrough combat systems in the conveyor mode. I wonder where is the well-drawn Tirex-Thunderstorm tank of Almaty and all Muscovites in the compartment?

    The artist draws what he was told. And always in design bureau, when there were no lumps yet, the artist was valued and capable of depicting the "thought" of the designer. And each advance project, and sketchy, too, always without pictures was zero
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 11 January 2018 20: 56
      +6
      Quote: Old26
      And each advance project, and sketchy, too, always without pictures was zero

      So 99% of all R&D in Ukraine ends precisely at the stage of decorating pictures.
  11. flicker
    flicker 11 January 2018 20: 51
    +2
    Need to cut while there is something. what
  12. Dormidont
    Dormidont 11 January 2018 20: 52
    0
    Non-profit raged
  13. Equalized
    Equalized 11 January 2018 20: 54
    +4
    In general, an inadequate bid from the territory of the territory is missing. I remember that the bloody pastor Turchinov mentioned the dirty bombs and their creation. Now here are the "almost nuclear bombs."

    Undoubtedly, if this continues, the US itself will hit them on the head. Rumor has it that the creation of the independent Sapsan OTRK at one time very sabotaged the Washington Regional Committee, for it did not trust. Now the Thunder is making concessions for the Saudis, after all, the “war with Russia” does not bother Kiev in this matter for political reasons, plus the country is now completely “underneath” for now.
    But they also hardly need the emergence of a new DPRK in Europe, such radical statements from Kiev will only hinder the strengthening of their missile program, why blow it, keep silent and work silently in their interests.
  14. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 11 January 2018 20: 55
    0
    Morons potrylegolovye! You still plan to fly to Mars! The chances of success will be the same, you are “weak” with us!
  15. DPN
    DPN 11 January 2018 20: 55
    0
    Considering that in Russia, instead of Soviet factories, they destroyed and put in their place shopping and entertainment centers, and after that Russia can do something else. Following in the footsteps of Russia and owning part of the Soviet potential with the help of the USA and Europe, it is not publicly known, and Ukraine is also likely to produce something. All the same, not horseradish, but the second part after R.F.
    In the year 14, when Ukraine was not really needed by the West, what could be done and now the train has left, it remains only to scare each other.
    1. poquello
      poquello 11 January 2018 21: 21
      +2
      Quote: DPN
      If we consider that in Russia instead of Soviet factories they collapsed and in their place they built a shopping center, and after that Russia can do something else.

      yes we know, tanks planes are directly collected in the mall, under the accordion
      1. DPN
        DPN 11 January 2018 22: 08
        0
        It was fortunate that the tanks were fortunate enough to help India make orders, and they flew on Russian planes for a long time, that they weren’t visible. The conversation is about Ukraine and their oligarchs are not dumber than ours.
        1. poquello
          poquello 12 January 2018 00: 13
          +2
          Quote: DPN
          It was fortunate that the tanks were fortunate enough to help India make orders, and they flew on Russian planes for a long time, that they weren’t visible. The conversation is about Ukraine and their oligarchs are not dumber than ours.

          and their type is not? Why did they jump onto the civilian fleet then? they are there, after the deliberate collapse of Russia's industry in the West (and not the construction of a shopping center), ships and production, and comparisons are generally inappropriate because there is nothing to compare with them - even if they drag with LDN they are still more or less comparable
  16. Herculesic
    Herculesic 11 January 2018 21: 03
    +1
    Honestly, many laugh in vain! Indeed, if in Syria drones' bombs were stuffed with explosives made in Ukraine, then for our specialists this unexpected person is the first alarm bell! And if the Yankees "help" in creating a "dirty" warhead, which they also want to test on our troops in the same Syria? They can create a "vacuum" weapon - the same Yankees will find money for it! So, the country's authorities need to forget the phrase "brotherly people", and prepare special forces to capture strategically important objects in the ukroine, otherwise rain from napalm, or OM, may sprinkle on our cities!
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 11 January 2018 21: 05
    +4
    They checked, argued ... in principle, they can do it with the help of "friends".
    There are doubts, probably somewhere and someone is stealing and the product will not work ... or the power will change, and then I don’t want to guess.
  18. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 11 January 2018 21: 10
    +5
    Almost nuclear at almost installations, so that they would almost fly where they needed to and almost hit almost the enemy.
    Almost smile
  19. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 11 January 2018 21: 16
    0
    In Ukraine, all sawing, but first of all - the country's budget.
  20. HMR333
    HMR333 11 January 2018 21: 16
    0
    what complexes))) right now even what was recently produced is not able to unlearn! looking at the fact that some frames of the house are being designed, those garbage cans with Chinese intercoms, instead of optics, about which developments you can stutter)))))) in the photo the best that they can produce right now)))
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 11 January 2018 21: 19
      0
      You are a typical person, a media man, as I call you, do not be offended.
      To be able to filter the necessary information from the stream of nonsense that pours into the media is good quality wink

      I can get you such crazy things from any country, even from SAINT America, this does not mean that the Americans are really stupid and can’t do anything. lol

      And the North Koreans “eat grass”, but at the same time launch intercontinental missiles .... learn to filter information.
      1. Astoria
        Astoria 11 January 2018 21: 44
        +1
        And the North Koreans "eat grass"
        eating - not eating the tenth thing, but Ukraine, up to DPRK, like from Konotop to China, has been unable to build a bridge in Kiev for 12 years, no matter how much money is allocated, everything is stolen, and then you sculpt every day about which missiles, planes. The Chinese did the right thing by taking at least those who could still do something, and the fools Arabs are waiting for the wunderwaffle to be done, and it will be like in that parable about the talking donkey. hi
  21. alavrin
    alavrin 11 January 2018 22: 34
    0
    Rather, the Americans will sell them on credit, of course, the written-off "tomahawks" under the pretext of combating Russian aggression ... This is the most likely scenario
  22. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 11 January 2018 22: 36
    0
    a program for the production of missiles "close" to nuclear in terms of destructive force. This was stated by the former head of the Ministry of Defense of the country Anatoly Gritsenko on the television channel "112 Ukraine". [Quote] [quote]. Ammunition that is close to nuclear ... Look, it will explode close proximity, and not from radiation ...
  23. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 11 January 2018 22: 59
    +2
    Almost a state with almost its own culture and history, as well as almost its own developments in the production of high-tech weapons, is almost going to almost develop and almost produce almost nuclear missiles. I almost believed and almost started searching for the nearest bomb shelter. belay laughing
  24. Cobra77
    Cobra77 11 January 2018 23: 20
    0
    Almost nuclear, almost renew .... Almost a country ...
  25. aszzz888
    aszzz888 12 January 2018 02: 56
    0
    ... the blue dreams of under-state ... laughing ... the Polynesian tribe can also declare this - they will have equal chances ... laughing
  26. Conductor
    Conductor 12 January 2018 03: 44
    0
    Almost nuclear))))) is that how?
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 12 January 2018 06: 14
      0
      Conductor Today, 03: 44
      Almost nuclear))))) is that how?

      ... by and large - no way, it's only ukrokaklovskie dreams ... dreaming, sick ... laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 January 2018 08: 32
        +3
        In principle, an over-powerful munition similar to nuclear weapons in destructive action, such as a round-explosive munition .... a very powerful thing, the most powerful of non-nuclear ones.
        They were taken from the extreme, i.e. I had the mind not to leave a very large grenade to the monkey !!!
        Will they be able to recreate? I hope not, for well-known reasons.
  27. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 12 January 2018 04: 37
    0
    "There is a desire ........, but there is no opportunity !!! - the best overseas friends led you to this. Capitalism understands only one thing - profit and money, but what should they get from the outskirts ???
  28. KCA
    KCA 12 January 2018 04: 56
    0
    THOSE. Do the guys want to make a heavy ballistic missile and threaten the Russian Federation? They somehow do not think that after the launch of the SPRN it will give an alarm and in return will no longer be "almost nuclear" missiles? A single launch can still be missed, but if 2 or more, then the Glass Sea will be exactly next to the Black Sea
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 12 January 2018 06: 16
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      ... to pay attention to all their “appearances” - no health will be enough ...
  29. sgr291158
    sgr291158 12 January 2018 05: 47
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    Wanting is not harmful, it would be enough for all the brains. And they just do not exist.
  30. serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 12 January 2018 06: 17
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    almost nuclear is almost pregnant!
  31. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 12 January 2018 08: 47
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    All the irony is in vain and underestimate the situation, more expensive for yourself! If North Korea is “hungry and isolated” making its missile shield, then the West will try to make Ukraine not just an irritant, but a country ready and able to carry “chestnuts out of fire” for it.
    The war is weighed by seven calculations and in this way determine the situation (Sun Tzu)
  32. Dimmih
    Dimmih 12 January 2018 09: 14
    +1
    Want and be able to do different things. And in the case of Ukraine in general .... Wailing wall Arseniy Yatsenyuk, mortar dangerous for use. This is the first thing that comes to mind. Now Sapsan is still left to do so that he sobbed in the assembly shop ..... In general, exemplary. And Ukrainians would have abandoned this business, reforged everything on a yelling-sowing plant just around the corner, you won’t be fed up with peregrine falcon.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 12 January 2018 10: 25
      +3
      Are you sho Great Ukrainians must declare (slander) in everything for their greatness !!!
      1. Dimmih
        Dimmih 12 January 2018 12: 44
        +1
        For our part, we should distinguish Ukrainians from ukrov, things are different. Ukrainians are one of the peoples of the world — ordinary, like the rest.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 12 January 2018 13: 42
          +3
          I distinguish in fact, I have someone to worry about in Ukraine.
          I feel sorry for them, sales of those who jumped in pots.
          Those who banderlog and other ... international bandits, temporarily lost under one specific flag!
  33. Evil 55
    Evil 55 12 January 2018 10: 00
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    Almost a real OTRK .. Since you don’t draw pictures with the complexes, UKRALINA hasn’t jumped yet, will not cry, will not change its mind ..
  34. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 12 January 2018 10: 09
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    Quote: engineer74
    That is, Kim in the DPRK is "insane" and he can’t rockets, but can hell’s big top in Kiev? Let's go far.

    It all depends on the identity of those who populate the upper floors of the security service.
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 12 January 2018 21: 26
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      To be precise - the third floor, in the building of the SBU it is allocated for the CIA)))
  35. trophy
    trophy 12 January 2018 10: 38
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    What kind of carrier must be blinded so that, according to the striking effect, the warhead pulls at least half a kilotonne of TNT? It will be interesting to see.
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 12 January 2018 21: 24
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      Instead of a warhead, an amplifier and loudspeaker will be installed, spitting up the UPA and Schenevmerlu anthem in flight. The calculation of Ukrainian strategists that our fellow citizens who have heard these masterpieces of world music will tear a pattern)
  36. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 12 January 2018 11: 30
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    In the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, only the archive remains valuable
  37. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 12 January 2018 21: 21
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    In the picture, KrAZ are drawn, and KrAZ, if I am not mistaken, recently completed the bankruptcy procedure and ceased to exist as a legal entity. Where do you get the chassis, are you sick of ours?)
  38. tTshka
    tTshka 15 January 2018 02: 50
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    And they want to EvropU)))
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 15 January 2018 07: 37
      +3
      Wanting is not harmful, although tiring, but the geyropa wants this extreme?
  39. Valery Saitov
    Valery Saitov 16 January 2018 10: 07
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    In 2013, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine generally abandoned this project due to the inefficient use of state budget funds.)))
    And they asked Russia for another 3 billion dollars in Eurobonds and .... and again the money flowed into offshore and so on ad infinitum.