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Defense Ministry will revive the "skins" Aviation Regiment in the Baltic

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The Ministry of Defense has begun to build up air power in the Baltic. One of the main elements of this program will be the revival of the legendary "Skyshkin" air regiment, according to News.


Defense Ministry will revive the "skins" Aviation Regiment in the Baltic


As the newspaper was told in the military department, "a decision was made in principle on the revival of the legendary 689 Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment (Gviap), commanded by many famous Soviet aces of the Great Patriotic War, including three times Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander Pokryshkin."

It is reported that the regiment will be based at the Chkalovsk airfield in the Kaliningrad region and will solve air defense tasks in the interests of the Baltic fleet.

“At first, the regiment will be armed with modernized Su-27CM (СМ3) fighters, and in the future it will receive a squadron of the newest Su-35,” the article says.

Full historical the name of the reconstructed unit is the 689th Guards Fighter Sandomierz Order of Alexander Nevsky aviation Regiment named after Marshal of Aviation A.I. Pokryshkina.

According to military historian Dmitry Boltenkov, the regiment will become the most important component of the Russian security system in the Baltic.

First of all, Su-27CM and Su-35 are interceptors. They will be able to effectively close Russian airspace not only from airplanes and helicopters, but also from drones and even cruise missiles. As the experience of Syria shows, if necessary, fighters will be able to hit ground and air targets with high accuracy. They have in their arsenal highly effective X-31 supersonic missiles, as well as adjustable bombs,
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  1. Alex_59
    Alex_59 11 January 2018 11: 03
    +6
    Exceptionally correct solution!
    Too bad they just disbanded at first. We love to break, and then build again ...
    1. KOH
      KOH 11 January 2018 11: 06
      +1
      Withdrew from the language .... "To the base and then !!!" ...
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 11 January 2018 12: 38
      +7
      Great news! good Only now will the next libertut and the “disarmament” reformer come and again the new glorious Russian tradition will rush, first break, then long and painfully restore. request
      1. figwam
        figwam 11 January 2018 14: 19
        +1
        Oh how, in Chernyakhovsk SU-30, and Chkalovsk SU-35, powerful.
  2. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 11 January 2018 11: 12
    +1
    Great news!
    Break-build-break-build)))
    Probably only we have a "tradition" like this))
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 11 January 2018 11: 32
      +5
      Yeah, how much more will have to be restored! But you have to ! hi
  3. Overlock
    Overlock 11 January 2018 11: 12
    19
    He knew the Pokryshkin family. The late Marya Kuzminichna was very sensitive to her regiment and the memory of her husband. She carefully kept Marshal's flight book. I held this masterpiece in my hands, with painted planes, maneuvers. I was happy and told about my trips to Chkalovsk. She will be glad there .... that her regiment is not forgotten. We are also glad that the military traditions of Soviet aviation will be preserved, that the name of Marshal will not sink into oblivion.
    And this is good!
    1. allaykbar
      allaykbar 11 January 2018 11: 24
      +4
      probably the first is your post where you are not struggling with power. Nice to read!

      If they revive, then means have appeared. The state is getting stronger and it’s glorious.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 11 January 2018 12: 03
      +2
      Quote: Overlock
      .We are also glad that the military traditions of Soviet aviation will continue, that the name of Marshall will not sink into oblivion.

      Interestingly, did the legendary Pokryshkin plane survive?

      They say it's him, but there are doubts
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 11 January 2018 12: 14
        +4
        I don’t want to deceive, but Marya Kuzminichna seemed to be talking. what is saved. Interestingly, Pokryshkin had a very high opinion of the AeroCobra and preferred it to Soviet aircraft.
        A copy of the Aero Cobra was delivered in Novosibirsk.
        Must be noted. that Pokryshkin among the marshals had many ill-wishers. Marya Kuzminichna called the names of those who had a hand. In fact, in his stellar age. Pokryshkin was excommunicated and transferred to DOSAAF
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 11 January 2018 12: 22
          +2
          Quote: Overlock
          , but Pokryshkin had a very high opinion of the "Aerocobra" and preferred it to Soviet aircraft

          See from 2.30
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 11 January 2018 12: 30
          +1
          I don’t know what happened after 2000. Most likely the plane was destroyed / sold / broken.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 11 January 2018 12: 35
            +1
            Quote: Overlock
            I don’t know what happened after 2000. Most likely the plane was destroyed / sold / broken.

            Last time was in Monino in 2010, the Aero Cobra stood, but a little different Royal
            Bell P-63 Kingcobra

      2. allaykbar
        allaykbar 11 January 2018 12: 43
        +2
        in the museum in Monino, it’s like LA Pokryshkina. In the hangar where the box office. Or Kozhedub, I don’t remember exactly. But I definitely saw the cobra there
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 11 January 2018 12: 55
          +3
          Quote: allaykbar
          in the museum in Monino, it’s like LA Pokryshkina. In the hangar where the box office. Or Kozhedub, I don’t remember exactly. But I definitely saw the cobra there

          In the hangar is a plane Kozheduba La-7


          Photo of Kozhedub

      3. Svist
        Svist 11 January 2018 14: 20
        +3
        Quote: Stroporez
        They say it's him, but there are doubts

        In the photo the plane is twice Hero of the Soviet Union G. Rechkalov
        http://airaces.narod.ru/all1/rechkal3.htm
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 11 January 2018 14: 42
          +2
          Quote: Svist
          In the photo the plane is twice Hero of the Soviet Union G. Rechkalov

          Thank you Kamrad! soldier drinks
    3. Train
      Train 11 January 2018 12: 04
      +1
      Here you are lucky! -Have in your hands That notebook that he described in the book ... I sincerely envy ..
    4. mashinist
      mashinist 11 January 2018 12: 32
      0
      Glad there .. where there? In the sky? Or maybe she is in hell
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 11 January 2018 12: 36
        +1
        why in hell? In my opinion, she lived an honest life, was a medic in the air regiment - that means she saved the fighters. And there ... I think in heaven, and God will figure it out without us, where and to whom. At a reduced rate or without
  4. Igor V
    Igor V 11 January 2018 11: 17
    +3
    God forbid
    They were based in Nivensky. When it was closed, they transported airplanes on trailers through the whole city to Chkalovsk. They should have been at night, but because of all sorts of delays they captured the morning. And I, on the way to work, met with them several times. A sad sight, like a funeral ... Well, now - fly!
    By the way, fighters from Chkalovsk still fly, apparently the squadron, nevertheless, remained.
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 11 January 2018 13: 07
      +1
      In Chkalovsk, just not long ago, they transferred ... And it seems not all ..? And so, Chernyakhovsk, along with the bombers ..
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 11 January 2018 22: 20
        0
        "689 Guards Iap Nivenskoe Kaliningrad 36 Su-27 Sandomierz Order of Alexander Nevsky named after Pokryshkin"
        Here, I found nectonlab on the site.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 January 2018 11: 20
    +6
    We will be alive, we will not die! With the revival, 689 guiap !!! good
  6. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 11 January 2018 11: 28
    +4
    A very correct decision, especially in this direction. The Baltic is a troubled area.
  7. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 11 January 2018 11: 36
    +1
    The news is great! Such a regiment will really control almost the entire Baltic.
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 11 January 2018 11: 46
    +4
    Traditions are of course glorious, revived and glory to God.
    Now work, work and work again.
  9. Overlock
    Overlock 11 January 2018 11: 48
    +2
    Quote: allaykbar
    probably the first is your post where you are not struggling with power.

    I’m not fighting with power. but with fools and embezzlers. I would like at least a little justice for ordinary people whom the government has forgotten
    1. novel66
      novel66 11 January 2018 11: 53
      +1
      in any government there are fools and embezzlers
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 11 January 2018 11: 54
        +1
        I don’t argue, but for some reason we have a lot
      2. Svist
        Svist 11 January 2018 14: 08
        0
        And who in our power can be called a fool? Something doesn’t come to mind ... Fools don’t get there, but if they do not get there for long.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 12 January 2018 00: 02
          0
          perhaps you are right. We are fools that allowed them to fill their pockets, eliminate free social medicine and education. That they consider us fools - "there is no money, but you hold on"
  10. Terenin
    Terenin 11 January 2018 11: 52
    +9
    In childhood, excitedly read the books of A.I. Pokryshkina "Sky of War", "Know yourself in battle", "Wings of a fighter" ...
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 11 January 2018 11: 57
      +1
      the late Marya Kuzminichna wrote 2 books about her husband:
      1.Come the star of memories
      2. In the air and on the ground.
      A fairly elderly woman, but easily operated on data about the asses of Germany and England, she knew for memory who, how much and how they shot down. The German Hammer was the antithesis of Pokryshkin (if he doesn’t change his memory).
      By the way, they lived modestly by today's standards. In Soviet, good. 3 apartment on Malaya Bronnaya. The house in which M. Suslov lived. By the way, a rather ascetic person was
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 11 January 2018 13: 14
        +1
        Hartman ... And the score, according to German "data", was 352 of the aircraft ... And on the Western Front, in the elite regiment on Messer 262, shot down about 20. All other Vost.front. Although the "Fritz" believe ...? request
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 12 January 2018 00: 02
          0
          exactly, Hartmann.
    2. novel66
      novel66 11 January 2018 12: 00
      0
      (C) .... "we were taught to be birds!"
    3. Train
      Train 11 January 2018 12: 05
      0
      Even from the book the sky of war becomes clear that he shot down much more .. The point is not only that he is Ass, but that he survived with 41!
  11. novel66
    novel66 11 January 2018 11: 54
    0
    still to pull up the bombers, so that their ships hiccup
  12. shura7782
    shura7782 11 January 2018 12: 19
    +1
    Pleases. Very good news. Maybe my native 886 ORAP will start flying again.
  13. Overlock
    Overlock 11 January 2018 12: 19
    0
    Quote: Zug
    It’s clear that I shot down much more.

    Marya Kuzminichna said that Pokryshkin was calm about the downed planes, there were times that he gave his shot down planes to his colleagues
  14. iouris
    iouris 11 January 2018 13: 12
    +1
    To revive the air regiment, you need to revive the USSR. The commander of the Ukrainian regiment. Kozheduba yelled "America is with us!"
  15. sergevonsohrn
    sergevonsohrn 11 January 2018 13: 27
    +1
    correct solution! It is high time! otherwise they disarmed sooner according to Western recommendations .... moreover, it is necessary, as far as possible, to revive all the legendary units and formations of the times of the WWII! look at the shavers: they still have the "royal hussars", "Scottish arrows", etc. .... and their military spirit rests on this! and what are we? ... and we will listen to all the liberals there? !!!
  16. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 11 January 2018 13: 55
    0
    Quote: sergevonsohrn
    correct solution! It is high time! otherwise they disarmed sooner according to Western recommendations .... moreover, it is necessary, as far as possible, to revive all the legendary units and formations of the times of the WWII! look at the shavers: they still have the "royal hussars", "Scottish arrows", etc. .... and their military spirit rests on this! and what are we? ... and we will listen to all the liberals there? !!!

    You need to have your head on your shoulders and think not only about stuffing your own belly, but also think about how to live tomorrow yourself and the day after tomorrow to children in this country, and to everyone. Then, for the policies of the ruling, we do not have to blush and be ashamed. hi
  17. kamski
    kamski 11 January 2018 14: 02
    +2
    Renaissance, does this mean that part of the equipment will be removed from all parts and create a regiment thereby weakening units ???
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 11 January 2018 19: 13
      +5
      I don’t know what to rejoice about here ..... To admit, having read the heading of the article, the heart trembled, really? Will revive? From scratch? But after reading about Chkalovsk, the joy subsided, now the Su27 are standing there, the next year the regiment is planning to re-equip the Su35, I have a one-fly there. That is, it turns out that the "sign" will be changed, transferred to a new mat.chast, and as there were 2 garrisons throughout the Kaliningrad region, it will remain so. Chernyakhovsk and Chkalovsk, but once upon a time the whole army was, even if the division were formed a full-fledged (they repaired 1-2 airfields and, in addition to the existing two, were equipped with a new mat.part, I understand this FORMED! Otherwise, we only have to change the names of the masters - but in fact, neither the number of personnel, nor the number of aircraft, nor the number of reconstructed airfields does not change, it’s good that at least su30cm and su35 will be there - serious cars
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 11 January 2018 19: 20
        +5
        They will not remove from all parts until there is a su27cm in Chkalovsk, and the planes partially withdraw from the garrisons where the transition to su30cm and su35 is completed or is being completed (the "extra" su27 are shoved into shelves that are only in the rearmament line and fly on the "old people" ) So far, su35 instead of su27 received only 2 regiments, in the Uglovka and Dzemgi, and from there they take. Su30cm are armed with regiments that previously flew for a moment29 (I don’t know why this happens), and this is Domna, Zernograd, Kursk.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 11 January 2018 21: 54
          +1
          Dmitry, hello hi So far, at the moment, according to the Kal.oblast, there are more statements than real cases ... Well, okromya C 400 and Iskander .. Mos-Minsk, they also announced .. But so far, strengthening (and updating), only the Marine Corps. Fighters, all transferred to Chkalovsk?
          1. Rushnairfors
            Rushnairfors 12 January 2018 08: 56
            +2
            As far as I know, no. Back in Belbek, in Khotilovo, in Krymsk (although there is su30 there), the same story with su24- Khurba is slowly transmitting to Shagol, the Morozovskys “share” with the fleet Monchegorsk, and the grouping is basically based on su24 in in general, the approach is correct, the old people are still at the level, the more they upgrade them, but of course this is not enough. It is necessary to rebuild airfields and recreate at least what was destroyed during the Serdyukov reform process, and that is about 30 airfields, I am sure that this is quite possible with the current defense budget (before, funding was less and nothing served, they flew, garrisons were supported by combat-ready ones).
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 11 January 2018 19: 37
        +3
        According to all reports, statements of serious ranks of pilots, technicians are not enough, the army is also a victim of reform.
        It is necessary to restore the training base and train ALL personnel for the Air Force, flight and ground ... in short, more than one year, if sales are horned.
        There are doubts, but we will hope for common sense of the command / authorities.
      3. Rriv
        Rriv 11 January 2018 21: 04
        +1
        Is Chkalovsk already functioning fully? I would rather.
        Today, the scouts of the adversaries again spun around our borders.
      4. Sergei1982
        Sergei1982 12 January 2018 06: 05
        0
        Quote: Rushnairfors
        That is, it turns out that the "sign" will be changed, transferred to a new mat.chast, and as there were 2 garrisons throughout the Kaliningrad region, it will remain so. Chernyakhovsk and Chkalovsk,

        Dear, there is such a version (for some reason, here is a truncated version of the article on topvar)
        The decision to revive 689 guiap was made as part of the rearmament and military capabilities of the national aviation program. The regiment will be formed on the basis of the fighter squadron, which is now part of the 72nd air base. At first, the regiment will be armed with modernized Su-27SM (SM3) fighters, and in the future it will receive a squadron of the latest Su-35
        maybe there will still be a second regiment at the same base?
        1. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 12 January 2018 09: 09
          +2
          God forbid, I honestly do not advocate that there should be more than one regiment at one aerodrome, at least in the current situation with the aerodrome network of Russia, because in the event of war and striking at such an aerodrome, firstly there’s nowhere to be relocated, secondly the amount of equipment itself implies an increase in the time to relocate (i.e., not everyone will be able to get out of the attack), and thirdly, it’s much easier for the enemy to plan an attack on three airfields than say 10, hence the conclusion, restore the airfields, to put equipment on them, to reduce the structure of the current regiments (from 4-5 squadrons, to do as 2-3 before the reform) and of course to train the personnel, otherwise we have a shortage of calls for pilots with ITS, and in 2009 themselves dispersed the ushlepki
          1. Sergei1982
            Sergei1982 12 January 2018 13: 20
            0
            Quote: Rushnairfors
            God forbid, but honestly I am not a supporter of having more than one regiment at one airport

            Well, you know very well what kind of regiments we have sometimes, sometimes sometimes there are only 20-25 aircraft, (I don’t know how many in Chkalovsk). If I’m not mistaken, at one time up to 70 combat aircraft reached Kilp'yavr in the USSR.
            Quote: Rushnairfors
            In any case, in the current situation with the airfield network of Russia, because in the event of war and striking at such an airfield, firstly there will be nowhere to relocate

            Well, Serdyukov’s reforms will hiccup for a long time to come.
            Quote: Rushnairfors
            from 4-5 squadrons

            We have an IAP where 4-5 esc. Each. ??? Sorry, I honestly did not know. If I’m not mistaken, for example, in Millerovo 2 esc., Yelizovo, there seems to be only one esc. MiG-31.
            1. Rushnairfors
              Rushnairfors 12 January 2018 14: 50
              +1
              Quite right, in Yelizovo 1ae, only you count the number of planes, there was a full-fledged miap there before the reform, then the states cut to ai, and the planes stayed, the last time there was in 2016, I counted 19 boards, this is without a pair on the database, a total of 21, the number of boards far from ae, agree.
              According to Millerovo: before the reform, there were 2 aeronautical forces, I agree, but as far as I know, after the reform, the regiment was dispersed and the military personnel and equipment were transferred to Zernograd, forming a 4 squadron airbase of the 1st category. Now, with the transition to the regimental system, that may have changed, but in Millerovo, as far as I know, now the commandant’s office (I can be wrong)
              And so we have more than one garrison where 4ae each, even 5 here and there. A couple of examples: Engels-2ae on tu95 2 on tu160, Belaya 4ae tu22m3 and one transport, total 5. Domna-2ae on su30cm and 2 ae on su25, total 4. Corner-2ae on su35 and 2 per minute31, total 4. There is more, but I will not list everything. However, there are also “standard” types such as Kansk, Volzhsky, Perm, in my opinion.
              1. Sergei1982
                Sergei1982 12 January 2018 16: 35
                0
                Quote: Rushnairfors
                I counted 9 boards, it’s without a pair on the database, a total of 21, by the number of boards far from the airport, agree.

                Well, but even falls short of two, not to mention 4-5.
                Quote: Rushnairfors
                According to Millerovo: before the reform, there were 2 aeronautical forces, I agree, but as far as I know, after the reform, the regiment was dispersed and the military personnel and equipment were transferred to Zernograd, forming a 4 squadron airbase of the 1st category. Now, with the transition to the regimental system, that may have changed, but in Millerovo, as far as I know, now the commandant’s office ( I can be wrong)

                Were mistaken and very much, in 2014, 31 IAPs were restored there, the regiment received the Su-30SM https://bmpd.livejournal.com/1835175.html. You were mistaken above by indicating that Zernograd received the Su-30SM, the formation of the 16th is in progress in Zernograd army aviation brigades (that is, helicopters).
              2. Sergei1982
                Sergei1982 12 January 2018 17: 38
                0
                Also, if Chkalovsk is not mistaken, this is an MA (correct if they are wrong), but the MA receives the Su-30SM, as you said, and as they say in the article, the Su-35S will go to Chkalovsk, that is, the Air Force would seem to be then.
                1. Rushnairfors
                  Rushnairfors 12 January 2018 17: 59
                  +2
                  Well, I’ve made a mistake, honestly in the “West” I don’t have much information, but in Zernograd, too, they stood for a moment29, a piece of iron, we had it “spare” when I flew as a cadet in Texas, it turns out they were in Millerovo ??? Their 2 regiments were for a moment29 in those parts - Zernograd and Millerovo, it turns out that Millerovo was restored, thanks for the information.
                  In Kamchatka, I didn’t mean that there are 4-5 there, I just wanted to say that there are enough planes for the regiment there (after all, 21 aircraft does not mean that there are so many and not more - 2-3 can be on ARZ, a couple where is the thread on the database sitting like Anadyr or Kuril), before that I was there in 2014 and there was more like, I don’t remember honestly.
                  Regarding Chkalovsk, until 2009 there was a “naval” regiment on the su27, then they were given to the Air Force, then to the MA again, and it seems to be again to the Air Force, 4 years ago, it was definitely the Air Force — the kashnik was transferred from Khotilovo, now I honestly have difficulty Considering that the sailors are buying Su30, and Chika is changing to Su35, it turns out the Air Force, you are right. On the other hand, it's the RUSSIAN ARMY !!! I won’t be surprised.
                  1. Sergei1982
                    Sergei1982 12 January 2018 18: 13
                    0
                    Quote: Rushnairfors
                    Well, I’ve made a mistake, I honestly don’t know much about the “West”, but in Zernograd, too, they stood for a moment29, a piece of iron, he was a “reserve” when I flew as a cadet in Texas, does it turn out to be in Millerovo ??

                    It's okay, no one is obliged to know everything, for example, I was not aware that we have regiments of 4-5 esc.
                    Quote: Rushnairfors
                    Regarding Chkalovsk, until 2009 there was a “naval” regiment on the su27, then they were given to the Air Force, then to the MA again, and it seems to be again to the Air Force, 4 years ago, it was definitely the Air Force — the kashnik was transferred from Khotilovo, now I honestly have difficulty Considering that the sailors are buying Su30, and Chika is changing to Su35, it turns out the Air Force, you are right. On the other hand, it's the RUSSIAN ARMY !!! I won’t be surprised.

                    Well, I would like all the same to, say, in Chkalovsk, a regiment of the Navy, and recreate the new IAP Pokryshkin (at least 2 esc) and transfer to another airfield, as you said.
                  2. Sergei1982
                    Sergei1982 12 January 2018 18: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Rushnairfors
                    In Kamchatka

                    In Kamchatka, if I'm not mistaken, Pushchino is empty, the runway is simply a dream of 3500 * 47, including you will be far away.
                    1. Rushnairfors
                      Rushnairfors 12 January 2018 18: 36
                      +2
                      Pushchino? I know only Yelizovo in Kamchatka, where we work from time to time and the Kamchatka Keys. Maybe this is Pushchino? There, the Strategic Missile Forces’s aviation seems to be there, isn't it?
                      1. Rushnairfors
                        Rushnairfors 12 January 2018 18: 37
                        +3
                        Tomorrow is a day off, on Monday I will leaf through the collection, I hear the right for the first time!
                      2. Sergei1982
                        Sergei1982 12 January 2018 18: 50
                        +1
                        Well, if I’m not mistaken, they left him after the reforms, there were plans
                        In Kamchatka, a military airfield proposed to make a backup for civilian airliners
                        http://trud-ost.ru/?p=108549 если не ошибаюсь в свое время там была авиация ВМФ.