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South Ossetian Voentorg for Donbass. Hello from "Abkhaz"!

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The probability of a sudden escalation of large-scale hostilities in the Donbass theater of operations in the coming 1-2 weeks continues to remain unusually high. First of all, this is evidenced by the third in the last week and a half a long reconnaissance flight of the strategic unmanned aerial vehicle RQ-4A "Global Hawk" in 35-45 km from the contact line, which allowed the US Air Force (and therefore the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine) to receive an extensive radar reconnaissance package , radio engineering and visual (optical-electronic / TV) information on the location of numerous artillery batteries of the buildings of the people's militia LDNR, as well as the majority of radio-contrast and radio-emitting units, Global Hawk radar and optical electronic devices.

Obviously, the patrolling flights in the lower layers of the stratosphere (1-7 km) made by 16 and 17 on January made it possible to get only the radar image of Donbass TVD using the AN / ZPY-2 MP-RTIP radar with synthesized aperture mode, because the use of the SYERS-2B / C high-resolution optoelectronic station was not favored by the meteorological situation (the Azov region and the Telman district covered in dense fog), but the radar image was not enough. By January 9, the cover cloud and fog dispersed over the Donbass and another “control” flight was performed to refine the data from the SYERS-2B / C optical module. This says only one thing: the US instructors and the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine armed themselves with the necessary amount of tactical information to form an offensive strategy of “throws” on the Southern Front of the DPR, as well as distracting artillery strikes against the central densely populated agglomerations of the republics, where assault “kulaks” of the republican armies are concentrated.

Secondly, the rather successful implementation of the barbaric plans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in relation to the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics is observed in connection with the Washington-provided carte blanche to exacerbate the situation, which will become a real “saving wand” for the Trump administration after a loud operational and strategic failure in Syria . This is particularly true of the impossibility of controlling territories on the west bank of the Euphrates River (including Deir ez-Zor and Abu Kemal). But the most notable driving factor for Kiev, without a doubt, is approval by the US Congress and the Government of Canada, in December 2017, of military-technical assistance packages, providing for the supply of small-arms and various light weapons, including large-caliber 12,7 mm sniper rifles, Barrett M82A1, reactive anti-tank rocket launchers, etc. As for the sale of “independent” FGM-148 “Javelin” complexes, here there continues to wander extremely contradictory information, the generator of which is the Ukrainian media.

For example, 9 January 2017, the Ukrainian agency Ukrinform, citing the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, reported that instead of the high-tech Javelin anti-tank missile systems, Ukrainian military formations would receive standard TOW-2A / B anti-tank systems. Nothing was reported about the exact modification, while the Americans are aware of several versions of the complex, the main ones are: the tandem TOW-2A (BGM-109E rocket), "TOW-2B" (BGM-71F) with radio command and control by wires and the possibility of striking a warhead of the "shock core" type into the upper projection of the enemy's unit or the "TOW-2B Aero RF" type with a millimeter radio Ka-band control channel instead of the wired one. And this radically impairs the tactical capabilities of the anti-tank forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, since the “shot and forget” mode is not implemented here. The operator of the complex must, throughout the entire flight trajectory of the BGM-71F (from the launcher to the target), hold the targeting marker on the target, which takes approximately 21 seconds.

As in the case of the "wired" version, and in the case of the radio command "TOW-2", the operator's position will be easily opened due to the relatively straightforward flight path with a smooth adjustment by the operator. At the same time, at the moment when the enemy uses the radio command version Aero RF, it will be much easier to calculate the location of the calculation by means of modern mobile electronic intelligence systems, because the control command transmitter antenna onboard the ATGM is installed in front of the TOW-2F Aero RF transport and launch container operating in the Ka-band (the operator automatically turns into a radio-emitting object).

The danger of the “TOW-2A / B” complexes falling into the hands of the Ukrainian junta is that the anti-tank guided missiles BGM-71E and BGM-71F-6 are equipped with a tandem cumulative warhead with a powerful basic cumulative charge, which can be used with a pattern, which can be used with a pattern, which can be used to be a good challenge. steel equivalent for dynamic protection. This is for us and the armies of Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics extremely unpleasant. news, since only a few main combat tanks hulls NM LDNR installed tandem explosive reactive armor "Knife" (on captured T-64BM "Bulat"). Most of the vehicles (T-64BV, T-72A / AV / B in the amount of 600 - 800 units) are equipped with sets of mounted DZ "Contact-1" (elements DZ 4S20) and complexes of built-in DZ "Contact-5" (EDZ 4S22). Despite their excellent ability to reduce the penetrating effect of conventional monoblock cumulative projectiles (about 80%), the level of resistance to tandem ATGMs in both "Contacts" is minimal, while the equivalent durability of even the most protected frontal armor plates in the above tanks without DZ barely reaches 490- 620 mm (1,2 - 1,7 times less than the penetration of the main charge of the BGM-71E ATGM). Here is such an unpleasant situation!

Moreover, getting rid of the coils of the “microwire” control system, the BGM-71F-3-RF / F-6 anti-tank missile, which is considerably lighter, has the ability to accelerate to supersonic speed, as well as defeat 1,2 times more distant objects (4500 m against 3750 m early modifications). All this forces to take appropriate responses. In particular, the tank brigades of the people's corps of the LDNR People’s Militia are in dire need of equipping their vehicles with advanced “Relict” dynamic protection complexes, which are able to effectively protect against modern shtatovskih or western European ATGM.

As for the Javelins, the 49-million contract for the delivery of which was submitted to the US Congress and the Trump administration directly, here it was decided to replace them with the TOW-2A / B / F ATGM only at the official level, while as Washington has a huge “maneuver” field, using Canada as a transshipment point, whose management ultimately approved the delivery of Canadian weapons to Kiev as part of intra block sales. As we clarified in our previous work, Ottawa has no military-political link to the “Norman format”, and also has absolutely no obligations to the “Minsk-2”. As a result, under the cover of allegedly “light weapons” deliveries, all types of American-made weapons (from FGM-148 to adjustable artillery shells and mortar shells) can be shipped through Canada.

The official response of Moscow, Donetsk and Luhansk to Ottawa’s decision was fairly standard and “dry”: Canada was accused of participating in the conflict in the Donbas and opening a Pandora’s box, which automatically aggravates the situation and internationalizes the conflict; about this, December 26 2017, said Deputy Foreign Minister of Russia Grigory Karasin. A more interesting reaction, which can be interpreted as an unequivocal warning, was reflected in the opinion voiced by the Ukrainian video blogger Alexander Medina of the international brigade “Pyatnashka” Ahra Avidzboy (“Abkhaz”). First, the commander of the brigade, distinguished in the battles for the DAP and Ilovaisk, rightly noted the rather “soft-bodied” (at least, not sufficiently rigid) position of Russia on outside aggression.

Secondly, and most importantly, he said that the deliveries of the same “Javelins” would be an excellent argument for South Ossetia and the homeland of Ahra - Abkhazia to begin full-fledged military-technical support for the NM regiments of the republics. Ahra also pointed out the possibility of transit through a “corridor” organized by Russia from the friendly republics of captured weapons seized during the Georgian-South Ossetian conflict in August 2008. As you understand, such statements from the kombriga “Abkhaz” would hardly have been heard without approval from above, and this says a lot. After all, both South Ossetia and Abkhazia, as well as Canada, do not participate in any pseudo-world “formats” and do not plan to report to anyone, especially since the “Canadian precedent” with the direct support of the criminal Ukrainian regime unleashes Moscow. This “mirror response” to military-political mayhem, which the “Square” is repairing under the auspices of the values ​​of the Western world, is a very long-awaited moment for the entire Russian population of Donbass, which has been suffering for more than three years from the actions of VSUshniki and do-it-yourself subordinates to the Interior Ministry and other Ukrainian security forces departments.

As for the trophies taken from the Georgian army in 2008, there are at least 150 units of armored vehicles and artillery alone, the most notable of which are the 5 203-mm self-propelled guns 2S7 “Peony”, 15 T-72SIM-1 (modernized by the Israeli company “Elbit Systems” T-72M1 received from the Czech Republic; the vehicles received an advanced multi-band radio station with frequency hopping “Falcon” from “HARRIS Corporation”, also having a scrambling and messaging mode), 4 155 mm self-propelled guns “Dana” of Czech production, as well as more than 15 amphibious composite speedboats Blac k Shark "and" See Doo Speedster ", which may come in handy for updating the special forces unit" Typhoon ", which is part of the Azov flotilla Donetsk People's Republic. However, the work in the above areas is very serious, because it is not by chance that official diplomatic and economic relations have been established with the South Ossetia today in the DPR, and it is no accident that Anatoly Bibilov arrived in the Donbass on a working visit just before the impending escalation of the conflict.

Information sources:
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201801102019-9r6v.htm
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/tow/tow.shtml
http://e-news.su/v-novorossii/207798-ahra-avidzba-abhaz-aleksandr-medinskiy-mir-na-donbasse.html
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  1. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 12 January 2018 06: 48
    +5
    Not just such statements are made! But what about the ammunition for the Danes? NATO caliber ...
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 12 January 2018 07: 46
      50
      It may be enough to loop, but recognize the independence of the LDNR, as South Ossetia and Abkhazia did. Sanctions from Russia will never be lifted.
      1. Dr_engie
        Dr_engie 12 January 2018 08: 13
        +5
        Yes of course. As in other countries the separatist should be recognized, so we are the first. And as the regions themselves are thinking about independence in the country themselves - so we quickly reassure them with riot police.
        1. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 12 January 2018 08: 37
          18
          Quote: Dr_Engie
          And as the regions themselves are thinking about independence in the country themselves - so we quickly reassure them with riot police.

          Where was that?
          1. novel66
            novel66 12 January 2018 09: 01
            23
            in someone's inflamed brain
          2. Baby sitter
            Baby sitter 15 January 2018 22: 32
            +1
            it's about his homeland. Romania
        2. lukewarm
          lukewarm 12 January 2018 09: 13
          41
          Quote: Dr_Engie
          As in other countries the separatist is recognized - so we are the first

          As befits a representative of the "civilized world," you have put everything upside down. These regions became "separatists" as a result of a coup d'etat in the country. In fact, they are not separatists, but supporters of the legitimate authority. And the mistake was just not the failed recognition of the so-called "separatists" but the recognition of the Poroshenko elections (which is equivalent to the recognition of the coup in Ukraine). Something like this. So far without a mat. Yes, you and your owners already know the above.
        3. Mih1974
          Mih1974 12 January 2018 10: 31
          22
          "I used to think that Democracy is the power of the People, but Comrade Roosevelt explained to me that Democracy is the power of the American People" (c) Comrade Stalin. laughing good
          Therefore - in other countries it is "exclusively the self-determination of peoples", and in Russia it is "hostile attempts by our enemies to destroy Russia" tongue
          1. Nick
            Nick 15 January 2018 21: 25
            0
            Quote: Mih1974
            Therefore - in other countries it is "exclusively the self-determination of peoples", and in Russia it is "hostile attempts by our enemies to destroy Russia"

            It should be so, and it always has been. Our scout in the rear of the enemy is our spy, the scout of the enemy in our rear is a spy. Nothing new. hi
        4. BecmepH
          BecmepH 12 January 2018 11: 26
          23
          Quote: Dr_Engie
          As in other countries the separatist is recognized - so we are the first

          And who are the separatists? Those whose neighbors kill cannons? Would you get out of here
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 16 January 2018 02: 51
            +5
            Quote: BecmepH
            And who are the separatists?

            Я
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 16 January 2018 05: 32
              0
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Quote: BecmepH
              And who are the separatists?

              Я

              "Well, du Ra! (C)
            2. hmiland
              hmiland 19 January 2018 15: 09
              0
              And me too! The real one!soldier
        5. Spez
          Spez 12 January 2018 14: 39
          +3
          But because we can. And what will you do about it?
        6. zloybond
          zloybond 12 January 2018 15: 57
          +6
          we do not think of the regions about it - they are stimulated in this from outside. Do not introduce delusions if you yourself do not own (or intentionally). But really, with the recognition of the DNI and LC - the issue is delayed. Indeed, in essence, Ukraine is striving to show everyone how difficult it was to live with the advice .... Since they themselves understood this question, it is time to rid them of the Soviet cargo that Ukraine does not like so much. This is understandable - they regret the regions attributed to them by the USSR. Industry .... Well, if it’s not necessary, it is necessary to recognize the self-falling off. That we are a little bit pregnant freshmen. No, no, no. Recognized and drove on. These let them flounder in their swamp. Or is someone scared? or is someone motivated from outside not to do this ?????
          1. Nick
            Nick 15 January 2018 21: 35
            +1
            Quote: zloybond
            No, no, no. Recognized and drove on. These let them flounder in their swamp. Or is someone scared? or is someone motivated from outside not to do this ?????

            It’s just that the people who make decisions on such issues know a little more than us and, therefore, see a little further than you and me ... A few moves. In a word, those are still chess, zugzwangs, gambits, Sicilian defenses. Solid E2-E4. Where should we go to poor peasants request bully hi
        7. kotvov
          kotvov 12 January 2018 19: 57
          +3
          so we quickly reassure them with riot police. ,,
          Take care of the Arabs before they tackle you. Do not stick your long nose to us, pincer.
          1. free_flier
            free_flier 13 January 2018 20: 55
            +8
            IMHO, it’s just the opposite ... the Arabs dealt with them. The EU itself gives a forecast that in the region of the 25-30s, the population of Europe will be 30% Muslim. And they are all threatened by Russia.
            1. kush62
              kush62 14 January 2018 18: 51
              +2
              free_flier Yesterday, 20:55 ↑ New
              IMHO, it’s just the opposite ... the Arabs dealt with them. The EU itself gives a forecast that in the region of the 25-30s, the population of Europe will be 30% Muslim. And they are all threatened by Russia.

              As long as they have the opportunity to peer out the “Russian threat” through the window, the Arab threat has them behind them. laughing
            2. passerby5
              passerby5 15 January 2018 16: 18
              0
              et you are right. the most important thing is that they DRINK with their samovar !!!! and geyropeytsi with their assimilation will certainly only be assimilated by them themselves through the ass))) friendship is when it is mutual. and one way ..... about 7 years ago I was indignant over a glass of tea (following a trip to Germany) how? all sorts of Arabs, Turks, Negroes, they take a pancake, and so from Russia you can get there. over time I thought, yes, and especially not. tolerant pancake
              1. Served once
                Served once 15 January 2018 23: 33
                0
                Exactly the same opinion, only on the basis of a trip to France. I watched and thought how many rabble had been launched into this country. Gypsies blow a question of English speakers with question. Two-meter ambals Negroes selling luminous parachutes at the Eiffel Tower, whole blocks of healthy black foreheads in the Saint Denis, where is it scary to go ...
            3. tun5t
              tun5t 20 January 2018 07: 46
              0
              There’s nothing to do with the threat, it’s a program embedded in the European schools in the fight against Russia (tartaria), it’s such an antiquity that now we don’t have enough mind to remember
        8. Baloo
          Baloo 14 January 2018 18: 17
          +2
          Quote: Dr_Engie
          Yes of course. As in other countries the separatist should be recognized, so we are the first. And as the regions themselves are thinking about independence in the country themselves - so we quickly reassure them with riot police.

          Does anyone have this?
        9. NG inform
          NG inform 15 January 2018 03: 13
          0
          That's right, the separatists from Kiev must deny the right to exist.
        10. cheburator
          cheburator 15 January 2018 15: 13
          0
          We are not you! With Romanians we are not on the way!
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 12 January 2018 14: 04
        27
        I support! They did something stupid in the 14th - they did not support all of New Russia,
        swallowed mass killings (killings, not just arson!) in Odessa and kept silent for a long time in the Donbass. It’s time to correct mistakes, albeit partially. Everything is the same - there will be no mercy for us, and it’s a shame to wait for it, we don’t have the same story, even with zigzags.
        But for this, it’s time to start going to the polls and vote correctly with your head and not your ears.
        In March, the country had a chance to renew the country, national-patriotic forces put forward a single candidate. And our duty is to vote for him. These elections are our ONLY chance for beneficial changes in the country! There will be no second chance! Putin, in the event of his re-election, will finally finish off the country, together with organized crime groups from officials and oligarchs of various kinds. With him, the collapse of the country and destruction awaits us, no need to hope for a different outcome.
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 12 January 2018 14: 34
          16
          Quote: NordUral
          These elections are our ONLY chance for beneficial changes in the country!

          Well done! Even without errors, reprinted from the training manual.
          I also worry about my homeland. Already in age. Sometimes they’re called wise, but I don’t know what to do.
          And everything is so simple for you.
        2. saigon
          saigon 12 January 2018 15: 19
          13
          Are you probably talking about the candidate from the Communist Party Mr. Grudin?
          Who obliges me to vote for the bourgeois?
          Where is the sense of decency among the gentlemen from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and Mr. Grudin.
          That's right, VI Lenin called some political ........., the word quote is known.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 12 January 2018 17: 11
            +9
            Quote: saigon
            Are you probably talking about the candidate from the Communist Party Mr. Grudin?
            Who obliges me to vote for the bourgeois?

            All bourgeois would be like that! By the way, there are many businessmen and rich people among the Communists. And Lenin was also from the noblemen! Does this plead like their revolutionary ideas about a fair redistribution of the final product of labor? In your opinion should the real communists bomb?
            I accept your attack as a banal attempt to mess up, dirty the name of an honest person, and a worthy candidate for president of Russia. It seems like the other candidates are against the bourgeoisie!
            1. saigon
              saigon 13 January 2018 10: 32
              +7
              How can you mess an honest person if he is honest?
              That's just the ideological opponent of the gentlemen, namely gentlemen, and not comrades from the Communist Party, well, should not have been their candidate.
              Such an ambiguous position is in the above-mentioned group of gentlemen from the Communist Party and the proposal of Mr. Sternum.
              Lenin, he fought against the system, and did not integrate into market relations, so to speak
              I can say that you shouldn’t exaggerate about homelessness, but you probably shouldn’t also call the gentlemen from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Communists (they are terribly far from the people).
              So do not do what can be interpreted in two ways.
            2. lukewarm
              lukewarm 15 January 2018 08: 37
              +1
              The idea itself with the nomination of a single candidate from the national patriotic forces is good, they have been talking about it for a long time and now. The question is in the personalities. Grudinin, by the way, is never a communist and never said anything like that, just as the Communist Party is “communist” only on paper. Therefore, there is no more faith in her. Another thing is who is behind Grudinin. I do not like the approval of Mr. McFaul. A dark story with foreign assets of Grudinin himself. The ideologist of the association Boldyrev (until recently respected by me) was messed up in the Production Sharing Agreement. I admit that all this is the machinations of their opponents, but so far I have not heard a clear answer.
              1. your1970
                your1970 17 January 2018 15: 20
                0
                Quote: unwillingly
                Another matter is who is behind Grudinin. I do not like the approval of Mr. McFaul. .... I admit that all these are the machinations of their opponentsbut I haven’t heard a clear answer yet.
                ie, McFaul Putin and the oligarchs forced Grudinin to speak out in favor ??? !!!
                "Abaldet !!!" ©
          2. the most important
            the most important 12 January 2018 18: 59
            +3
            Quote: saigon
            Who obliges me to vote for the bourgeois?

            Only the presence of mind and conscience ... but there is also a choice: latifundists with vineyards and ducks!
            1. saigon
              saigon 13 January 2018 10: 38
              +2
              My life experience, the experience just says to trust Mr. Grudin and the Communist Party of the Soviet nominees is not necessary, but about the conscience of someone who in this situation is not worth talking about.
              And the choice in favor of a citizen with beds against characters with ducks does not attract at all
              and which of them ray such a big question!
          3. kotvov
            kotvov 12 January 2018 20: 00
            +5
            so vote not for the bourgeois Putin and Co. Are you really blind? the richest country and so many poor people. and they will continue to suck blood.
            1. Valery Saitov
              Valery Saitov 18 January 2018 08: 11
              0
              Are you also a pauper? You don’t need to retell the Bredyat from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. According to information from the pension fund, we don’t pay 20 million people (they don’t pay for them) to the pension fund i.e. they work according to the "black" scheme, and another 7 million work according to "gray" schemes where at least 100-200 rubles are paid to the PFR. My friends who work in garages and have "black" salaries have not weak earnings: from 50 up to 90 thousand rubles. And for a black salary and a social pension it’s only 8500 rubles, and there is no funded pension, and this is another 6200 rubles. Therefore, the normal ones get 14700 rubles and more, my wife did not work for 7 years (reduced) the pension is 11200 rubles .
              https://kprf.livejournal.com/
          4. anosoff
            anosoff 16 January 2018 20: 21
            +4
            By the way, Lenin invented the NEP. The experience of China has shown how bourgeoisie can be made to work honestly for the benefit of the people and the state. So the "bourgeois" from the Communist Party does not scare everyone.
          5. DPN
            DPN 17 January 2018 21: 01
            +1
            PEACE they rule, having previously deceived the PEOPLE,
        3. zloybond
          zloybond 12 January 2018 15: 58
          +5
          Stupidity was done when they recognized the coup and still have not withdrawn recognition.
        4. vrazhin
          vrazhin 13 January 2018 06: 01
          10
          Oh how! Putin is bad .... and the uncle is good, he will disperse the thieves, he will return the loot ... believe the uncle, the uncle will not blow, I give a tooth .....
          Enough to hang noodles over the ears. Over 25 years have seen and heard about the good uncles who sleep and see how to help the people.
          Yes, Putin, the last few years, has moved away from improving the social conditions of citizens and this is very bad. He concentrated all his efforts on strengthening the state. It is necessary to support him so that he can finish his reforms, otherwise the good uncle will come and put everything under the dog’s tail, as has happened more than once in our history.
          A good uncle is usually either just a fool or a thief.
          1. zloybond
            zloybond 16 January 2018 19: 10
            0
            I don’t understand something, are you campaigning for or against whom ?????
            It is about recognition of the DPR and LPR and the recall of the legitimacy of the junta in Kiev. Everything that you have piled up here gently resembles agitation.
        5. Foxmara
          Foxmara 13 January 2018 10: 04
          +8
          Quote: NordUral
          In March, the country had a chance to renew the country, national-patriotic forces put forward a single candidate.

          I’m embarrassed to ask - do you mean the oligarch Grudinin, who forgot to indicate foreign accounts and investments in yards?
          Quote: NordUral
          And our duty is to vote for him.

          Whose is yours? "national patriots" who are for the oligarchs?
          Quote: NordUral
          There will be no second chance!

          Nobody will give you the first laughing
          Quote: NordUral
          Putin, if re-elected

          It is inappropriate to speak and write in the case. Not if, but March 18, 2018. All the rest are extras. Some as practice showed at the State Department’s RFP)) but still extras. There will not be enough votes for the "others", so the State Department pre-exposed the oligarchs in advance - either a coup d’etat or a loot.
        6. Sergey Polt
          Sergey Polt 14 January 2018 18: 59
          0
          A straightforward appeal to the Maidan ...
        7. passerby5
          passerby5 15 January 2018 16: 20
          0
          naive you. there is a subscription
        8. tun5t
          tun5t 20 January 2018 07: 50
          0
          Fig, election campaign somersault
      3. flicker
        flicker 14 January 2018 00: 38
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        It may be enough to loop, but recognize the independence of the LDNR, as South Ossetia and Abkhazia did. Sanctions from Russia will never be lifted.


        We need to understand who is fighting with whom, where and in what dimensions the front line passes. And to understand what is at stake - and the future world order is at stake.
        Donbassers are Real Warriors, we will later find out how much they have done in these three years.
      4. Dzungar
        Dzungar 14 January 2018 08: 30
        0
        LDNR will exist as long as Ukraine is aggressive towards Russia ....
    2. Nehist
      Nehist 12 January 2018 08: 30
      +4
      And with what fright DANA with a 155mm gun? As far as I remember 152mm our caliber, they in the USSR were even armed with 211 art brigades
    3. PSih2097
      PSih2097 12 January 2018 08: 55
      +5
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      NATO caliber ...

      Self-propelled guns "Dana" - 152 mm, unified with the D-20, but about the self-propelled guns "Zuzana":
      In the early 1990s, Slovak designers, trying to expand the market for their cars, developed another modernized version. Self-propelled guns "Zuzana" differs from the "Dana" mainly by a weapon. It is armed with a 155mm howitzer gun with a barrel length of 45 calibers. For firing all standard NATO ammunition can be used.
    4. boriz
      boriz 12 January 2018 20: 49
      +1
      Turkey will sell.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 12 January 2018 06: 53
    +6
    will be an excellent argument for South Ossetia and the homeland of Akhra - Abkhazia to begin full-fledged military-technical support for the corps of the NM republics.
    ... and this help will be provided, no doubt ...
    1. dSK
      dSK 12 January 2018 11: 32
      +3
      Hello Sergey!
      Quote: aszzz888
      help will be provided, no doubt
      "Leonid Bibilov recalled that South Ossetia is the only state to recognize the independence of the DPR and LPR and to provide comprehensive assistance to the republics of Donbass. According to him, South Ossetia's goal is to reunite with its historical homeland - Russia, and the republic is ready to hold the corresponding popular will. However, it will be implemented only together with Donetsk and Lugansk. "" South Ossetian scenario for the Donbass " (An article on the TV channel Tsargrad 12: 10., 30.12.17)
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 13 January 2018 06: 23
        +2
        Hello, Sergey. My name is Sheriff. Otherwise, I completely agree with you.
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 12 January 2018 07: 21
    13
    "North wind" from South Ossetia! Beautifully disguised!
  4. Olgovich
    Olgovich 12 January 2018 07: 23
    +4
    The article does not mention that the UAV examined not only the Donbass, but also flew around Crimea and the coast to Sochi..
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 12 January 2018 10: 33
      +6
      Well, what’s the problem - maybe even to Denmark along the coast near the Baltic, we can fly and “shine” the whole NATU lol . And if someone snoops around "intercepting" so he can be "enlightened" so that - no children, no more "hairstyles". repeat
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 12 January 2018 14: 06
      +2
      Duck and we need to fly a little, but really. And not a UAV, but our AWAKS, combing everything to the Dnieper.
    3. mihail7910
      mihail7910 12 January 2018 21: 48
      0
      Well ... with him!
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 January 2018 07: 43
    16
    captured weapons captured during the Georgian-South Ossetian conflict in August 2008
    Perfectly. And it is also encouraging that the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Bats will receive an answer from the weapons of the Georgian brothers, whom they adore so much. Symbolically.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 12 January 2018 14: 09
      0
      And I’m also glad that these brothers have already cut off from the Outskirts.
      1. free_flier
        free_flier 13 January 2018 21: 14
        +2
        they have a scent ... the northern fluffy is approaching, time is running out with impunity, so they burp.
  6. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 12 January 2018 08: 19
    +7
    units of armored vehicles and artillery alone, there are at least 150
    Sensible move, you can’t find fault. In any case, this technique is needed in the Donbass. The path will be on the western border, there it is now the place.
    1. KCA
      KCA 12 January 2018 15: 32
      +2
      And why is it even needed in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, if there are military bases of the Russian Federation?
  7. Altona
    Altona 12 January 2018 09: 24
    +8
    Quote: Dr_Engie
    Yes of course. As in other countries the separatist should be recognized, so we are the first. And as the regions themselves are thinking about independence in the country themselves - so we quickly reassure them with riot police.

    ----------------------------
    You blurted out of this thoughtlessness? Well, the region disconnected, then what? What military component will he defend? What cultural matrix will it be brought up and formed? Trayasku Matrasia Mare !? I see you have a Romanian flag hanging. What about Hungarian Transylvania? Or just how to shove Moldova so your government is ahead of the rest?
  8. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 12 January 2018 10: 25
    +5
    M-d-ah! Having run through this article with my eyes, I conclude: the author does not fully possess the information that he is trying to “bring” to readers! Immediately "catch" the "bloopers" with which the article is crammed! I will not further discuss this article - there is no sense and interest!
    1. myobius59
      myobius59 12 January 2018 11: 13
      +5
      Her, wait, saying A, and speak B. And so your post looks strange. It seems that you know something that the author does not know, but you don’t want to say .. Why then did you write THIS? You do not become like those who have not seen, not heard, do not know, but approve.
      Let's get to the point.
      And another question, on the Border, in particular the SS School in Progress, did you also light up? There really is an avatar without tsifirki.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 12 January 2018 11: 33
        +4
        Quote: myobius59
        Let's get to the point.

        So there’s nothing to say to him, that’s
        I will not further discuss this article
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 12 January 2018 14: 19
          +1
          Calm down, girls! I’ll show you something ...
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 12 January 2018 14: 37
            0
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            Calm down, girls! I’ll show you something ...

            So wanted to see, but no, again, deceived. He wanted to boast, took the ruler and ... changed his mind.
            One spray, from you, my dear.
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 12 January 2018 13: 14
        +3
        Quote: myobius59
        on "Pogranets", in particular, the SS School in Progress, did you also light up? There really is an avatar without tsifirki.

        Honestly, I don’t remember something like “SS school in Progress” ... And what is the “bazaar” about?
        Quote: myobius59
        It seems that you know something that the author does not know, but you don’t want to say ..

        I know no more than what the author can know .... moreover, I admit that the author is sure that he knows much more than others, since he decided to write an article. (I don’t dare to do this because " I know that I don’t know much "). I didn’t read the article carefully after I" saw "the following: 1." with radio command control over the wires (!); 2 .... TOW-2A (BGM-109E missile (!); 3.TOW-2B with 2my charges EFP (impact cores) .... Yes, in the "overwhelming majority" of sources, it is indicated "impact cores" (EFP), but they are found (much less often, but meet) "statements" that TOW- 2B at the beginning of production were equipped with 2 cumulative (!) Charges with tantalum lining, and the development of warheads with “true” EFP charges started later (and I have no information: when this development was completed and whether it was finished at all ...) In any case, information about 2's cumulative (or) charges; 2's (or) EFP charges must be double-checked ... 4.TOW-2B Aero RF can be accelerated to supersonic speed ... There is no information (!), that the produced TOW-2B Aero RF are dispersed (possess) supersonic speed! (As the saying goes, “will he drink a liter? Drink something, who will give it to him!) 5. In Georgia, the 152-mm self-propelled guns" Dana ", and not the 155-mm ...
        ....etc.
    2. vrazhin
      vrazhin 13 January 2018 06: 10
      0
      Not that word. I heard where the ringing, but don’t know what ...
      Sends trophies from Ossetia to Donbass ......
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 14 January 2018 18: 21
        +1
        Quote: vrazhin
        Not that word. I heard where the ringing, but don’t know what ...
        Sends trophies from Ossetia to Donbass ......

        I don’t think it will come to this. Too expensive pleasure-supply, training, service. Rather, a political gesture, like you are out of bed. wink
  9. Mih1974
    Mih1974 12 January 2018 10: 36
    17
    I don’t understand why bother so much - let the miners "find" anything in the storage mines good at least MSTA-S, at least "peonies, at least T-90 (and how much do we know what and how is formed in the mines of Ukraine repeat ) Yes, even if the "Iskander" find there and the "calibers" of the ground launch. (We don’t know anything - we are shocked belay where is it from in Ukraine lol ).
    1. Dimka75
      Dimka75 12 January 2018 11: 43
      +3
      and these people indignantly talk about a possible Ukrainian trace of explosives in a UAV in Syria))
      1. vasya.pupkin
        vasya.pupkin 12 January 2018 14: 07
        11
        Quote: Dimka75
        and these people indignantly talk about a possible Ukrainian trace of explosives in a UAV in Syria))

        And that Dima on the profile picture of your face is not a face from a fang? If I guessed right, then you probably have the same intelligence. One thing is not clear, what is the pan-and-leg doing here?
        1. Dimka75
          Dimka75 12 January 2018 20: 26
          +1
          Quote: vasya.pupkin

          And that Dima on the profile picture of your face is not a face from a fang? If I guessed right, then you probably have the same intelligence.

          an avatar is a test for foolishness
          1. free_flier
            free_flier 13 January 2018 21: 27
            +3
            those. Do you confess that the Trump's comb and erysipelas with broken brains are all yours?
            1. Dimka75
              Dimka75 13 January 2018 21: 49
              0
              yes my glorious diviner, you passed this test
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 14 January 2018 18: 22
          +4
          Quote: vasya.pupkin
          Quote: Dimka75
          and these people indignantly talk about a possible Ukrainian trace of explosives in a UAV in Syria))

          And that Dima on the profile picture of your face is not a face from a fang? If I guessed right, then you probably have the same intelligence. One thing is not clear, what is the pan-and-leg doing here?

          I came to work.
      2. kotvov
        kotvov 12 January 2018 20: 05
        +1
        and these people indignantly say,
        wait, you will be poking around again, it’s unpleasantly surprised. After all, you consider yourself the most intelligent and cunning, but the fact that you will experience it in your own skin will convince you.
  10. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 12 January 2018 11: 24
    15
    The probability of a sudden escalation of large-scale hostilities in the Donbass theater of war continues to remain unusually high

    God willing will carry
    It’s good to pour Slavic blood under any sauce.
    Better I swear under the distribution
  11. Terenin
    Terenin 12 January 2018 11: 31
    +7
    Everyone understands that in the Donbass, Russia and the Western Alliance are already measuring their forces. We, unlike them, have no other choice.
  12. Curious
    Curious 12 January 2018 14: 40
    0
    America will give weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, such as "Abkhazia" (it is clear who this Abkhazia is) DNI and LC. Fight, guys, for health, do not stop, mentally we are with you and we have our own income from this.
    1. boriz
      boriz 12 January 2018 21: 05
      +5
      Oh, you poor thing, everyone around you is to blame!
      Understand first, on what legal basis did you send MO troops and heavy weapons to the conflict zone, which you use against civilians. And what does the United States and the Russian Federation? You break your laws. Not to mention gangs like Azov.
    2. Antares
      Antares 14 January 2018 00: 11
      0
      Quote: Curious
      Fight, guys, for health, do not stop, mentally we are with you and we have our own income from this.

      ordinary business war with patriotic escalation. The rest are sitting on sofas supporting "their team."
  13. vissarion
    vissarion 12 January 2018 15: 48
    +1
    All is correct. If officially we are afraid to supply weapons to the Donbass (after all, the loot is in the West, and donations are just around the corner), then through Ossetia you can put anything you want. I think that the Minister of Defense is not and that understands this perfectly. Let's see what happens.
  14. opus
    opus 12 January 2018 15: 55
    +1
    Quote: Author
    The probability of a sudden escalation of large-scale hostilities in the Donbass theater of operations in the coming 1-2 weeks continues to remain unusually high. First of all, this is evidenced by the third long last week and a half long reconnaissance flight of the strategic unmanned aerial vehicle RQ-4A “Global Hawk” in 35-45 km from the contact line, which allowed the US Air Force (and therefore the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine)

    When did he fly something?
    Who fixed?
    -Board Transoder Number-?
    A statement at least someone (trustworthy), acre author-?

    that's when he flew (see year) and where


    Quote: Author
    since the use of the SYERS-2B / C high-resolution optoelectronic station was not favored by the meteorological situation (the Azov Sea region and the Telman district covered in dense fog),

    They (Americans) are stupid? forecasts do not read?
    Money "hens do not peck"?
    the cost of an hour of flight of the drone RQ-4 Global Hawk last modification is about
    $ 14 50

    Shl. he has AN / DAS-3 EO / IR, which also works in the infrared channel.
    ================
    about ATGM, howitzers Ossetia ...
    I read diagonally and did not understand:
    - whether I drank a little on NG
    is the author a lot or kurnul something
    wink
    Some kind of science fiction.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 14 January 2018 18: 29
      +2
      Quote: opus
      Some kind of science fiction.

      Do not read foreign newspapers at night. Do not suffer, go to the potty and sleep. Poseidon recently spun in the region you are interested in, and before that the UAV you mentioned. This happens on a regular basis — probing weaknesses. The C400 division and the Russian Guard are not in vain transferred to the area of ​​the Crimean bridge. There is a bargain for the Atlantic puddle. Biden and company need Donbass, McCain and company need Syria. And what about poor Trumpampam? it remains only to entertain the public with clowning. lol
  15. Radikal
    Radikal 12 January 2018 21: 23
    0
    Quote: Dr_Engie
    Yes of course. As in other countries the separatist should be recognized, so we are the first. And as the regions themselves are thinking about independence in the country themselves - so we quickly reassure them with riot police.

    I mean, themselves - in Romania? wassat
  16. iouris
    iouris 12 January 2018 22: 17
    +1
    "Dan" still need to master. And it's time to shoot down US scouts in the airspace of the USSR.
    1. Antares
      Antares 14 January 2018 00: 14
      0
      Quote: iouris
      And it's time to shoot down US scouts in the airspace of the USSR.

      I wonder how? And most importantly, how to explain? Say you violated the borders of the USSR? Delusional. The borders of the Russian Federation have not been violated, which means they cannot shoot down.
      Understand the confusion in the thought of “we can and we must,” even Americans do not always do.
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  18. skeptic
    skeptic 12 January 2018 23: 20
    +3
    And yet, LDnrovtsy does not prevent the launch of high-tech "home-made". Can Hybrid Legions of the USA launch satellite-plywood ... repeat
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 14 January 2018 18: 32
      +1
      Quote: skeptic
      And yet, LDnrovtsy does not prevent the launch of high-tech "home-made". Can the Hybrid Legions of the United States launch satellite plywood?

      Last year I was surprised that there really weren’t a single aircraft modeller left in Donetsk. Moreover, now sets of radio-controlled models and UAVs are sold on the Internet. Spell a little with the filling and get a banderlog grenade in the hatch of the tank. Of course, phones with geolocation are an expensive thing, but on Ali-baba they just do not offer any modules.
  19. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 13 January 2018 18: 15
    +2
    The situation in the Donbass is Putin's only problem in the presidential election. Because this trump card will be used by all pseudo-patriotic forces - communists, nationalists, monarchists.
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    1. Hadji Murat
      Hadji Murat 14 January 2018 11: 42
      0
      you're funny too ..... expert ....
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 14 January 2018 18: 33
      +4
      Quote: SANCHES332
      A funny site ... Some couch warriors .. WHERE ANALYTICS?

      This is just what you are looking forward to. Well, come on, get started, analyze.
  21. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 14 January 2018 11: 42
    +1
    it seems that many want a repeat of the summer of 2014 ... hawks are sucks ....
  22. Normal ok
    Normal ok 15 January 2018 02: 29
    0
    This is primarily evidenced by the third long reconnaissance flight of the strategic unmanned aerial vehicle RQ-4A “Global Hawk” in 35-45 km from the contact line

    So he has been flying there regularly for a couple of years. Moreover, it is always "long".
  23. anosoff
    anosoff 16 January 2018 21: 01
    +2
    I think that the Russian Federation can solve the Ukrainian question by military means in a very short period of time. But still this is a dead end. Suppose that polite people came and dispersed the entire junta! What next? For the foreseeable future, the Russian Federation will remain an aggressor-aggressor for the whole world. And the Western media will be wearing both the GDP and the Russian Federation. Moreover, in Ukraine itself, a very large part of the population considers the country to be full-fledged and want to see it independent. Patriots in a word. Therefore, Ukrainian citizens should bring order to the country themselves. With the sympathy and comprehensive assistance of the fraternal Ossetian, Abkhaz, Russian people. When can this be done? I am a couch strategist. Therefore, I’m wanging it like this: At the moment, Putin has two dumbbell elections and a Champion in football. request Therefore, he will not make any sharp (military) movements. Otherwise, you can break off with the championship as with the Olympics and you will have to go to the polls not as a peacemaker, but as a military arsonist. But after all, (elections and the championship) using aggravation in the Donbass, you can hit with a paw. Maybe (miraculously) suddenly the army of New Russia successfully go to Kiev? Or maybe Lukashenko, now unknown to anyone, will triumph in the presidential elections in Ukraine in 2019? Or Shoigu? Or Azarov? fellow So it makes no sense to drive horses. They waited almost four years - we will tolerate eight months. That's just Poroshenko probably also thinks like. Maybe the aggravation on the front line now and try to take control of the border with the Russian Federation. And if it does not work out, then at least it will impose martial law. To avoid the election. The law seems to be ready. yes