Russia is not a serious country, and therefore there is no democracy in it

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In Russia, Putin is everywhere (even Superputin). The abundance of portraits and busts of Putin, exhibitions devoted to Putin, not to mention T-shirts, T-shirts and calendars with Putin, led to the formation of a personality cult in Russia, incompatible with democracy, Western analysts say. The democratic forms in the country simply degenerated: the “opposition” like K. Sobchak does not take herself seriously.





Rafael Manueco on site "ABC" spoke about the cult of the Russian president, which engulfed the whole of Russia. Such a cult does not know any precedents, because dictators like Stalin or Mao Zedong did not have social networks or the Internet at all in their times, where the personality cult would be heated. Putin has both the Internet and networks, the correspondent notes.

In promoting his own image, Putin is not new: there is a “tradition” in Russia that was discovered by “Soviet predecessors”. As Manueuko points out, in recent years, the owner of the Kremlin has not only "openly allowed to place his own portrait everywhere," but also allows "to establish busts in his honor." Moreover, art exhibitions are already dedicated to Putin! And this is not to mention such trifles as the images of Putin on T-shirts or calendars. The cult of personality is crowned by constant propaganda in the press: the first face of the state is invariably present “in all the Russian media”. Such a widespread predominance of Putin, the author with irony calls "broadcasting from every iron." And the situation is unlikely to change, rather, it should already be recognized as “permanent”. Only a “dissident” whose behavior will be deemed “undesirable” can refuse it.

Not only in the media, Putin’s image is being promoted. Sociological centers are also involved. Part of the hype around Putin - their merit. The author considers open polls about the popularity of the host of the Kremlin “bloated”.

The result of these events, Manueko, declares Putin's "personality brilliance" in the country and in the world. None of the political leaders on the planet could achieve anything like it.

Such a "brilliant" cult has a wrong side.

According to the author of the material, an overestimated assessment of the personality of the leader leads to the incontestability of his authority. As a result, the cult of personality becomes incompatible with freedom of opinion and the notion of democracy.

Putin has become a “father of the fatherland,” an indispensable and even one-of-a-kind leader who opposes “external enemies.” It is Putin who guarantees the country “stability and cohesion”, against which “adventurers” like Navalny are trying to oppose and in general any oppositionists - Sobchak or Yavlinsky who do not have “clear positive programs”.

A big success in Moscow was won by the exhibition with the pretentious name “SUPERPUTIN”. Well, then Putin will promote himself at the World Cup ...

The art exhibition SUPERPUTIN, we recall, has been operating in Moscow since the beginning of December. Photos from the exhibition can be viewed on the website. "InoSMI".

As the name implies, the exhibition exhibits pictures dedicated to Putin. Three dozen Russian artists presented their works on the Putin theme. The President of Russia is shown in the image of a superhero: the artists have emphasized the numerous “superpowers” ​​and “superpowers” ​​of Putin.

Of course, no opposition is able to “offend” such Putin. This writes Stefan Scholl in the publication "Berliner Morgenpost".

According to Scholl, the Kremlin made Ksenia Sobchak the “star” of the presidential election. Mrs. Sobchak for a reason appears on state television channels and looms constantly in political programs on TV. She is even allowed to say that from the point of view of international law, the Crimea is Ukrainian. Sobchak turned out to be the first opposition politician, who was allowed to give his opinion on state-owned TV in detail. As a result, she became the star of the Russian presidential campaign (after Putin, the journalist is ironic).

In Russia, no one doubts that Putin will win. For the Kremlin, one thing is important: the government wants to have a vote of confidence from the people — let Putin have an 70% of votes with an 70-percent turnout.

This is a very large turnout, and therefore the Kremlin "redid the list of candidates," throwing out those who "have already been forced into their teeth." Neither Sergey Mironov, nor Gennady Zyuganov are participating in elections today. But Pavel Grudinin and Ksenia Sobchak will test the forces. This is not to be bored, laughs journalist.

Over Sobchak in Russia really laugh. She is called “blonde with botox lips” (“Die Blondine mit den Botox-artig gepolsterten Lippen”), and she is reminded of the famous “vulgar” reality show - “2 House”. This oppositionist, as Scholl believes, "does not take herself seriously."

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A sensation, however. Western journalists and analysts have revealed the secret of Russian elections. Both Sobchak and Grudinin are invited by the Kremlin to turn the 2018 election into a spectacular show with the participation of a “blonde” declaring Crimea Ukrainian.

What role Kremlin political technologists have identified Grudinina, foreign experts have so far been difficult to say. Perhaps, if Xenia was given the role of an unserious opposition, Grudinin, on the contrary, got the role of a heavy counterbalance in the elections, to which the government assigns a few percent of the vote, just like Mr. Prokhorov was at one time. In 2012, Prokhorov received almost 8% of votes, but later did not manifest himself in politics. In the West, they believe that he was simply squeezed out of politics. And if the assumptions of foreign authors (in particular, Scholl) are correct, then Grudinina will have to be “moved” after the elections.

However, such assumptions very often do not come true, and the results of elections often surprise even the most seasoned politicians. In the United States, Hillary Clinton was in the lead in almost all polls, but Donald Trump, a man outside the clans and a businessman who passed through a series of scandals, came to power.

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  1. +13
    11 January 2018 07: 00
    GDP is good in that everything can be attributed to it ... and shortcomings and achievements. I think that the WEST has created for itself an unkillable horror story ... judge for yourself ...
    Any politician in the USA and the EU can now be easily called an agent of PUTIN ... at least Madame CLINTON at least MATSEREVICH.
    All hurricanes. Tornadoes. Tsunamis. Meteorites and unrest among the people are also the machinations of PUTIN.
    Honestly, in terms of popularity in the world, GDP rivals that unless with Christ what .
    1. +16
      11 January 2018 07: 33
      The fact that European countries advertise themselves as * democratic * and even dare to distribute * democracy * ratings to other countries is not surprising. A swindler always talks about the honesty of others, and a prostitute about the morality of others. This is despite the fact that countries that have declared themselves * pillars * of democracy have inherited royal power, inherited or purchased seats in parliament. It’s so democratic.
      GDP is convenient for European critics in that it does not hesitate to speak and even has the * impudence * to voice the interests of RUSSIA.
      1. +4
        11 January 2018 09: 31
        Quote: Vasily50
        The fact that European countries advertise themselves as * democratic * and even dare to distribute * democracy * ratings to other countries is not surprising. A swindler always talks about the honesty of others, and a prostitute about the morality of others. This is despite the fact that countries that have declared themselves * pillars * of democracy have inherited royal power, inherited or purchased seats in parliament.

        And for me, the democracy system itself was originally a deception, because even in the "cradle of democracy" to America, Mark Twain said "if something depended on the elections, we would not be allowed to participate in them."
        1. +7
          11 January 2018 14: 37
          Quote: SERGUS
          And for me, the democracy system itself was originally a deception, because even in the "cradle of democracy" to America, Mark Twain said "if something depended on the elections, we would not be allowed to participate in them."

          There is another good phrase:


        2. +2
          11 January 2018 17: 28
          Quote: SERGUS
          Mark Twain said "if something depended on the elections, we would not be allowed to participate in them."

          We must try, this is the last step for a peaceful resolution of the issue.
        3. +2
          12 January 2018 16: 16
          The misunderstanding is obvious, the article has a place in the opinions section, but not in the analysis.
          Quote: Oleg Chuvakin
          Both Sobchak and Grudinin are invited by the Kremlin
          Firstly, there are no references to sources, and secondly, it is unbelievable that all Western media are unanimous with the Kremlin propagandists regarding Grudinin. If everything is clear regarding the friend of Putin’s family, Ksyusha Sobchak, the unfounded claim that Grudinin was invited by the Kremlin is a slander to please the candidate for presidency in the 18th Putin election.
          Quote: Oleg Chuvakin
          Grudinin, on the contrary, received the role of a heavy counterbalance in the elections, to which the authorities assign a few percent of the vote,
          Another striking unanimity of the Western media and Kremlin propagandists. Why's that? Either the author of the article is confused and prefers reality, or holds readers for people who are unable to appreciate the custom-made nature of the article. By and large, this does not matter, the main thing is that this is a custom-made, propaganda article, which is dressed in the clothes of not biased analytics.
    2. +6
      11 January 2018 08: 00
      The fact that these gentlemen Rafael Manueko and Stefan Scholl, are looking for a "cult of Putin" speaks only about one thing .... They don’t understand anything in Russia *
      1. +7
        11 January 2018 09: 15
        but it has long been said, and not by us - “Russia cannot be understood by the mind” we have our own logic, if you like, the architecture of thinking. and if it’s big - there’s no democracy anywhere at all, only fig leaves
        1. +4
          11 January 2018 09: 42
          Quote: novel xnumx
          there’s no democracy anywhere, only fig leaves

          Absolutely right. Demo Kratia (by the way not to be confused with ochlocracy) is possible only in Polis, where everyone is familiar with each other personally, or "through one handshake" Everything else is manipulation
        2. 0
          11 January 2018 14: 45
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        3. +2
          11 January 2018 15: 33
          Dear novel, 66. "... there is no democracy anywhere at all ..." - your phrase. Let me disagree with you. All developed countries (USA, England, etc.) are countries with a democratic system. You do not quite understand the term "democracy." Under capitalism, democracy is the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie; under socialism, democracy is the dictatorship of the proletariat. "... The bourgeoisie is forced to hypocrite and call it" nation-wide power "or democracy in general, or pure democracy (bourgeois) democratic republic, which in fact is the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, the dictatorship of the exploiters over the working masses. ... Only the dictatorship of the proletariat is able to free humanity from the oppression of capital, from lies, falsehood, hypocrisy of bourgeois democracy, this democracy for the rich, it is able to establish democracy for the poor, that is, to make the benefits of democracy accessible actually for the workers and the poorest peasants, whereas now (even with the most democratic - to the bourgeois - republic) these benefits of democracy are virtually inaccessible to the vast majority of working people ... "(ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND DICTATURE. V.I. Lenin)
          "... Marx perfectly grasped this essence of capitalist democracy, saying in his analysis of the experience of the Commune: the oppressed are allowed to decide once in several years which of the representatives of the oppressing class will represent and suppress them in parliament! ..." (State and revolution. V.I. Lenin)
          1. 0
            11 January 2018 15: 35
            in fact, where are the contradictions, did I mean something like that?
      2. +4
        11 January 2018 12: 35
        Thank you, of course, to these gentlemen for your close attention to our humble people and for their ardent desire to help with democracy. But somehow we will deal with our own affairs. If they are so bursting with advice and analysis, then I advise you to pay attention to the western hemisphere. State democracy clearly needs to be treated.
        I understand that they are accustomed to - when at the helm of the country another clown. But here they can already sympathize.
    3. dSK
      +2
      11 January 2018 08: 06
      Hello Alexey!
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Honestly by popularity in the world GDP competes with perhaps CHRISTOSOM
      it means his good student and loyal follower. hi
      1. +8
        11 January 2018 08: 12
        Hello dsk! smile hi
        GDP has charisma and the ability to convince people ... in addition, he never does stupid things ... for a lightning rod, DAM is nearby ... all the bumps go to him.
        In a word ... the old Soviet school of KGB fighter training + talent = good resultsmile
        1. +6
          11 January 2018 09: 41
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          GDP has charisma and the ability to convince people ... in addition, he never does stupid things ... for a lightning rod, DAM is nearby ... all the bumps go to him.

          I agree with you, GDP is a bright leader, and he is good at doing real things, if you compare something like Peter I with history, of course, the personalities are different, but in terms of "brightness" in the history of Russia ... I think that after 200 his name will be publicly known.
          1. +12
            11 January 2018 13: 47
            Quote: SERGUS
            I think that in 200 years his name will be well known.

            I assure you that after 10 years, his name will be cursed and these days will be remembered as the most filthy in history.
            1. +8
              11 January 2018 15: 07
              If Putin had entered the debate with Grudinin, people would have seen his great bankruptcy before March 18. But he is cunning and will not go to debate - it’s not a royal case.
              The future of Russia is being decided, and he only cares about the reign of 4 term, which is illegal.
              1. 0
                11 January 2018 17: 44
                Quote: stas
                If Putin had entered the debate with Grudinin, people would have seen his great bankruptcy before March 18. But he is cunning and will not go to debate - it’s not a royal case.

                I agree, it would be much better if the presidential candidates were OBLIGATED to personally participate in the debate.
                Quote: stas
                The future of Russia is being decided, and he only cares about the reign of 4 term, which is illegal.

                But here I do not agree, all the same, the law is formally observed.
            2. +4
              11 January 2018 15: 17
              Quote: Stroporez
              I assure you that after 10 years, his name will be cursed and these days will be remembered as the most filthy in history.

              It happened in history and such, but still the most disgusting in recent history, probably the 90s will remain.
              1. +9
                11 January 2018 15: 33
                Quote: SERGUS
                It happened in history and such, but still the most disgusting in recent history, probably the 90s will remain.

                When the scale of the deed is revealed, the 90s will seem like a children's party.
                In this regard, I want to remind you that in 1998 we jumped out of man-made default due to the still working industry. And in the 2000s, heavy and precision engineering, machine tools, civil aviation, etc. were destroyed.
                By the way, "kinder surprise" is now the head of adm. the president.
            3. +3
              11 January 2018 21: 30
              Grudinin is a business, he is one with Menlnichenko. And Melnichenko has repeatedly stated that there is no need to pay unemployment benefits - there’s no need to pamper people, in his village he doesn’t hire 300 people in the village of the unemployed. In a 2012 interview, Grudinin says frankly, we’ll be called anything that our company will mean, and here the well-known brand “State Farm named after Lennin.” By the way, he called 15 salaries. And in the election year you can make 50 or more. They grind his teeth behind his back, grind claws. Still, perhaps, remember Putin: “Eh, how calmly we lived without executions, bloodthirsty, and the social sphere was, albeit not quite sufficient.” The last thing to hope for curculesses, although they promise you mountains of gold.
        2. +10
          11 January 2018 11: 07
          Eh Lech, Lech. Your talent for licking does not inspire respect.
          The King has a talent for changing shoes on the go.
          He was a member of the CPSU and became the leader of the Russian capitalists. He, as a KGB agent, was supposed to defend the USSR, he did not defend, and joined the liberals.
          He betrayed the case of EBN and awarded him a medal. He is devoted to the oligarchs, created everything for them to rob the people. Imperial beggarly handouts only humiliates people.
          If at one time they would have removed Humpbacked and EBN earlier, in Russia it would have been better. This will be the King.
          1. +1
            11 January 2018 15: 15
            Quote: stas
            He betrayed the case of EBN and awarded him a medal. He is devoted to the oligarchs, created everything for them to rob the people. Imperial beggarly handouts only humiliates people.

            He is certainly not ideal, but still, of all, let’s say the followers of EBN, he did not turn completely back to the people, and although his rating is slightly inflated, it is still high, which means most people are more or less satisfied with the situation. Something like this.
        3. +12
          11 January 2018 14: 02
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          he never does stupid things ... for a lightning rod, DAM is nearby ... all the bumps go to him.
          DAM is not a lightning rod. This is a real generator of problems for the Russian people (read the "bumps"), which he himself collects. What are his experiments with reforming the police into the police ($ 15 billion) and the fight against tobacco, when the Government stubbornly does not notice a “peaceful” boom that can stop trains and land planes without problems, creating a risk to the lives of hundreds of citizens, but at the same time According to the Government, "heavily" smoking passengers in vestibules prevent people from reaching the destination station. Education, medicine, housing and communal services and business development are generally a dull topic in the sense that DAM and Co. simply killed them.
    4. +2
      11 January 2018 09: 29
      Not with Christ, but with Christ. Oh, these educational reforms ...
      1. +1
        11 January 2018 12: 48
        Are you sure?
    5. +2
      11 January 2018 10: 13
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Honestly, in terms of popularity in the world, GDP rivals that unless with Christ

      Yes, he is the only president in Russia.
      1. +9
        11 January 2018 14: 51
        When to be serious, when there are so many buffoons and answer and explain to everyone.
        1. dSK
          0
          11 January 2018 18: 14
          Quote: Rusland
          to be serious
          "The scandal with VIP cameras in the Sailor Sailor Silence cost the workplace to the deputy chief. The deputy head of the Matrosskaya Tishina pre-trial detention center was fired after the scandal with VIP cameras, and three more employees were given a disciplinary sanction, according to the FSIN. Human rights defenders found cameras for VIP prisoners in December last year. It was noted that some cameras in Sailor's Silence were comparable to rooms in 4-star hotels. VIP chambers had gourmet refrigerators, modern televisions and toilets. " (Channel "Tsargrad" 10: 04., 11.01.18/XNUMX/XNUMX)
    6. 0
      12 January 2018 06: 19
      By fame, GDP has already overtaken I.Christ. in China and India not everyone knows about I.Kh. and about the GDP every day they watch the news.
  2. +12
    11 January 2018 07: 01
    Once again you are convinced that the “personality cult” of some kind of personality in Russia is created in Western countries and the USA, and then, by translating articles from the local media, it is passed for “opening” here in Russia.
  3. +5
    11 January 2018 07: 04
    What an infection. We are not a “democratic" country at all. Putin, Putin ... A personality cult, infallible, supernatural, intelligent, athletic, hard-working ... Age, of course ... But another term is enough.
    I suppose he will prepare a replacement for himself. In six years, it’s entirely possible.
    1. +10
      11 January 2018 07: 34
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What an infection. We are not a “democratic" country at all. Putin, Putin ... A personality cult, infallible, supernatural, intelligent, athletic, hard-working ... Age, of course ... But another term is enough.
      Leonid Ilyich, already ahead of schedule ...
      1. +1
        11 January 2018 07: 57
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Leonid Ilyich, already ahead of schedule ...

        Stalin is still far away ...
        1. +2
          11 January 2018 11: 28
          Not at all! This is how to count. Stalin single-handedly began to rule only by 28-29! 53-28 = 25 years. Putin is already 19 years + 6 years after the election. So almost catch up.
          1. +1
            11 January 2018 12: 14
            Quote: Artyom
            Stalin single-handedly began to rule only by 28-29!

            if you think so, then it will never catch up)) because Putin did not have such a one-man management, as was Stalin, no, and I doubt what will happen)
        2. +12
          11 January 2018 13: 34
          Judging by the deeds, then to Stalin, to him like to Beijing cancer.
          1. +2
            11 January 2018 13: 44
            Quote: Sergey Cojokar
            Judging by the deeds, then to Stalin, to him like to Beijing cancer.

            yeah. I respect Stalin with due respect (turning an agrarian country into an industrial superpower is a great achievement), but if Putin begins to use all of Stalin’s methods, then thanks, I personally don’t need such “kindness”. people idealizing Stalin somehow like to forget about all the methods used by the authorities at that time, and only remember the results.
          2. +4
            11 January 2018 14: 19
            Quote: Sergey Cojokar
            Judging by the deeds, then to Stalin, to him like to Beijing cancer.

            It depends on which belfry you are looking at. The history of Russia after 1991 can be divided into two stages - "BEFORE" Putin and "DURING" Putin. So, the time that was “BEFORE” is the time of the collapse, degradation and concessions of Russia in favor of the West. So from the point of view of assessing the well-being of the people, the period referred to as "TIME" is clearly in favor of GDP. Well, if you mentioned Stalin, then Putin does not have the smallest share to do things on his scale - liberals must go in stages and go in Stolypin cars to cut down the forest in the taiga, build roads in the Magadan Region and mine gold in Kolyma. So in vain you roll a barrel on it, since until now you have the opportunity to hang on the Internet and make comparisons in favor of Beijing, instead of benefiting the country on public buildings. Agree, he’s not such a tyrant, this GDP. Yes, and Russia, objectively, lives with him better than with EBNe.
            1. +3
              11 January 2018 22: 22
              If you compare the drunk EBNa with Putin, then naturally the latter looks better. He and the scale of theft oligarchs ahead of the social. competition. As much as under Putin they steal, they have never stolen under the law. Under EBN they stole thousands and millions, under Putin they steal billions and trillions. If one Colonel Zakharchenko steal 9 billions, then you can only imagine how many higher ones steal. So your flyly sermons about a good King are not convincing. Licking the king is always beneficial for some individuals.
              1. +4
                11 January 2018 23: 04
                Quote: stas
                If you compare the drunk EBNa with Putin, then naturally the latter looks better. He and the scale of theft oligarchs ahead of the social. competition. As much as under Putin they steal, they have never stolen under the law. Under EBN they stole thousands and millions, under Putin they steal billions and trillions. If one Colonel Zakharchenko steal 9 billions, then you can only imagine how many higher ones steal. So your flyly sermons about a good King are not convincing. Licking the king is always beneficial for some individuals.

                Think primitively, and argue no better. EBN left behind a country with default and huge external debt, which has a little more than 250 tons of gold on its balance sheet. Since 2000, the debt to the IMF and WB was repaid ahead of schedule, a stabilization fund and a national welfare fund were created, in 2017 the last balance of debt from the USSR was paid, the gold reserve increased by more than 6 times the amount left by Yeltsin to date makes 1800 tons. The military housing program has been almost completely completed. New weapons went into the army. Aunts in Russia are paid maternity capital. New gas pipelines are being built, railways bypassing urkaini, an energy bridge to the Crimea and the Crimean bridge connecting the peninsula to the mainland. Criminal cases have been opened against a number of governors and the Minister of Economic Development of Russia Ulyukaev. The mentioned prisoner Zakharchenko was arrested, the stolen was seized. And only stas, as "some personality" prefers to do what he loves
                Quote: stas
                Lick the king
                obviously American, because on the eve of the elections in Russia it
                Quote: stas
                always profitable
                So it’s NOT HAMY, but you will be UNHEOMABLE. angry
                1. +2
                  11 January 2018 23: 24
                  I don’t take offense at fly-butterflies, because they carry water on offended ones. Your position is interesting, who is not for Putin is for Americans. Communist Party and the NPSR you think, too, work for the Americans.
                  But do we need such a King. In the elections you will see that the Tsar does not have 86% support, this is a lie and a hoax.
                  1. +4
                    12 January 2018 00: 11
                    Quote: stas
                    I don’t take offense at fly-butterflies, because they carry water on offended ones. Your position is interesting, who is not for Putin is for Americans. Communist Party and the NPSR you think, too, work for the Americans. But do we need such a King. In the elections, you will see that the Tsar does not have 86% support, this is a lie and a hoax.
                    Quote: stas
                    Just do not demand on YOU, you did not deserve it
                    On you, so on you ...
                    I don’t know how about the Communist, but the fact that you are a “mino” tap on the fan is for sure. Where are the counterarguments - verbiage. Can you prove the opposite of all that I listed in my previous comment?
                    Quote: stas
                    Narobsky, because of personalities like you, cynics, thieves and crooks rule our country.

                    Nope ... It’s because of people like you that “reformers” Navalny, Yavlinsky, Sobchak and the whole collective West can return to finish off Russia. Then the 90s will seem like a fairy tale.
                    Quote: stas
                    When the Constitution turned into paper.

                    December 12, 1993. You need to know such things. fool
                    Quote: stas
                    Narobsky you believe that, power in Russia belongs to the people.

                    No. No.
            2. +1
              11 January 2018 22: 33
              Narobsky, because of personalities like you, cynics, thieves and crooks rule our country.
              When the Constitution turned into paper.
              Narobsky you believe that, power in Russia belongs to the people. Just do not demand for YOU, you did not deserve it, and you are not in the plural as WE are the Great King.
              1. +3
                11 January 2018 23: 50
                Quote: stas
                you are not in the plural as WE are the Great King.

                In, bent! laughing Great king, you are now in the plural ... Until you sober up! tongue
                In general, it’s not possible with people - rudely ...
                1. 0
                  12 January 2018 00: 10
                  It’s not possible with people, but with lizunami, if you do not respect it.
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      2. +6
        11 January 2018 09: 16
        on eyebrows and kisses still lagging
        1. dSK
          +4
          11 January 2018 09: 32
          Quote: novel xnumx
          still behind
          The modesty of our president is encouraging - he has honorary awards from other states that he almost never wears, a personal broadsword, Order of Honor (March 12, 1996), Order of Merit for the Republic of Dagestan (September 13, 2014). He deserved more. Leonid Ilyich did not fit all the awards on a tunic.
          1. +1
            11 January 2018 09: 34
            Well, I could have done at least one little photo with regalia, for fans, I would have downloaded
            1. 0
              12 January 2018 14: 11
              romance66 Yesterday, 09:16
              on eyebrows and kisses still lagging

              Quote: novel xnumx
              Well, I could have done at least one little photo with regalia, for fans, I would have downloaded

              Here is the campaign poster for the 2030 election campaign. wassat

              Threat. And this may not be a joke, if so we will vote for the “habitual” candidate.
          2. +2
            11 January 2018 14: 07
            Quote from dsk
            Pleased with the modesty of our president - he has honorary awards from other states, which he almost never wears, a personalized broadsword ...

            Yo mine! Who has a picture of GDP "with orders and broadswords"? fellow
    2. dSK
      0
      11 January 2018 09: 54
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      We are not a “democratic" country at all.

      Demokratia - the word is somehow not ours, it smells of gray, equalright better suited. hi
    3. +8
      11 January 2018 10: 41
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What an infection. We are not a “democratic" country at all. Putin, Putin ... A personality cult, infallible, supernatural, intelligent, athletic, hard-working ... Age, of course ... But another term is enough.
      I suppose he will prepare a replacement for himself. In six years, it’s entirely possible.

      And the oligarchs will continue to grow fat, and the people will die out and survive, who else is capable? No really .... Let the course change, back to socialism. Upgraded. Then we will support it. Crimea is not enough for me, you give social justice and a national idea without Masonic paper cut and exploitation by the huckster of the proletariat.
      Westerners are promoting the GDP in full, and now they have noticed the cult. So it is not far from the Father of All Nations.
      1. dSK
        0
        11 January 2018 14: 20
        Quote: Essex62
        you give social justice and a national idea
        Today, January 11, Russian President Vladimir Putin will meet with leaders of Russian news agencies and print media. As previously reported Editorial of Constantinople, heads of publications will gather in the newspaper "TVNZ". It is known that Putin’s conversation with reporters will be broadcast online on the publication’s website. We add that on Thursday a meeting with media leaders will be the second public for Putin. According to the Kremlin’s press service, the Russian leader will also get to know the children who wrote the best essays on the topic “Russia Looking Forward”.
  4. +8
    11 January 2018 07: 10
    Rafael Manueco on the ABC website told about the cult of the Russian president that swept all over Russia
    But Mr. Manueko is not aware that in the West, many (except politicians and the military) are well disposed towards our president. Therefore, the "cult" embraced not only Russia, but also the "educated" west. Well, you can agree about the opposition - it’s funny, clumsy and theatrical, but with big ambitions. Particularly “pleasing” are the botanists from Yabloko, which suddenly appeared from under the old foliage.
    1. +4
      11 January 2018 13: 16
      And Mr. Manueko is not aware that in the West, many (except politicians and the military) are well disposed towards our president. ,,
      as well as rotenbergs, sechins and chubays.
  5. +16
    11 January 2018 07: 19
    What kind of “democracy” for Benin’s mother can be in a country with so many heterogeneous subjects of the federation, with more than a hundred nationalities, with at least three world religions in mass confession. Russia has always been an empire, uniting all this patchwork in itself, keeping order among its constituents, and a regulating force for erupting conflicts and contradictions.
    Democracy is good in a mono-ethnic country such as Poland or the Czech Republic, but not in our vastness, where "you have been jumping for three years and you’re not getting anywhere."
    1. +5
      11 January 2018 09: 17
      and there, what the hell is democracy? elections create the appearance, no more ..
  6. +3
    11 January 2018 08: 00
    West! Smoke aside and envy silently.
    1. +10
      11 January 2018 11: 12
      What to envy?
      In Greece, the minimum pension is 500 euros.
      In Germany, unemployment benefits 700 euros. And we have a veteran of work with 40 years of experience and 200 does not receive euros. And the officials of the Tsar have a different pension system there and they have 70 thousand.
      There is nothing to envy. He is the King, the King.
      1. +2
        11 January 2018 12: 48
        Quote: stas

        1
        stas Today, 11:12 ↑ New
        What to envy?
        In Greece, the minimum pension is 500 euros.
        In Germany, unemployment benefits of 700 euros.

        Is it time to throw?
        1. +9
          11 January 2018 13: 19
          Is it time to blame? ,,
          someone? article: a comparison of the prices of Portugal and Russia, you can be proud, the prices are equal, but the income only from the guarantor's friends exceeds the income of the Portuguese ghouls.
      2. +3
        11 January 2018 12: 57
        Quote: stas
        What to envy?
        In Greece, the minimum pension is 500 euros.
        In Germany, unemployment benefits of 700 euros.

        Well, yes, it’s heavenly manna, not pension. You are here, as it were, a long time ago respected stas and in rank, and pour in unconfirmed data (you set a bad example, it is not accepted as it seems on the forum). You’ll either give links to the sources of such data, or do analytics. Pension is 500 euros, and bread costs - ... euros. And we have...!
        Well, specially for you, dear -
        "... Prices for the main products in Greece in 2018:
        water (1,5 l) - from 0,40 €;
        juice (1 l) - about 1,20 €;
        a loaf of white bread (500 g) - from 0,70 €;
        milk (1 l) - from 1 €;
        white rice (1 kg) - about 2 €;
        eggs (12 pcs) - from 2 €;
        olive oil (500 ml) - about 6 €; ... "
        https://make-trip.ru/poezdki-po-evrope/greece-tse
        ny-na-edu-v-kafe-i-na-produkty
        Further, housing and communal services - "... Utility bills in Greece depend on the area of ​​real estate and the number of residents. On average, for an apartment of 85 sq.m, electricity, water, heating and garbage collection will cost about € 150 per month ...
        "
        http://ee24.ru/greece/information/costs/
        Well, something like this!
        Then it will be clear that we live in poverty here.
        Well, about pensions: "... Today, a pensioner receives no more than 50% of his average salary. If you translate this into a monetary equivalent, then the amount of the pension at the base rate is only 360 euros. Exactly the same amount determines the cost of living in the country ..."
        http://pensiaexpert.ru/poleznoe/skolko-sostavlyae
        t-pensiya-v-grecii-v-2017-godu.html
        1. +5
          11 January 2018 14: 39
          Andrei, you’re like our LADY, you know how to powder brains. Only you will not smear your enthusiasm of the capitalist paradise on bread. And this you will see in the March 18 election.
          1. +3
            11 January 2018 16: 06
            Quote: stas
            Andrei, you’re like our LADY, you know how to powder brains.

            Excuse me, dear Stas, I didn’t powder my brains, but I suggested that you not state that
            Quote: stas
            In Greece, the minimum pension is 500 euros.
            , and do it with an indication of the sources. Thank you for understanding!
      3. +1
        11 January 2018 14: 12
        Quote: stas
        the Tsar’s officials have a different pension system there and they have 70 thousand.
        There is nothing to envy. He is the King, the King.

        M-d-ah! Someone we are not so 100 anniversary of the October Revolution celebrated ... No. request
        1. +3
          11 January 2018 14: 41
          The Tsar and DAMA did not celebrate the 100 anniversary, and when we celebrate the 110 anniversary they are unlikely to feel the same.
          1. +1
            12 January 2018 00: 05
            And you say there is no democracy ?! In another country, or at another time with us, for such conversations you would already be in full benefit of the state. And this is at best for you.
        2. +1
          12 January 2018 14: 25
          Nikolaevich I Yesterday, 14:12
          M-d-ah! Someone we are not so 100 anniversary of the October Revolution celebrated ...

          Yes no, normul sat ...

          / First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Ivan Melnikov and Chairman of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Gennady Zyuganov (left to right) at a reception of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation in the Renaissance Monarch Center Moscow hotel in honor of the 100th anniversary of the revolution. /
          source: http://visualrian.ru/category/politics/3230524.ht
          ml
    2. +2
      11 January 2018 12: 52
      Quote: shinobi
      Smoke on the sidelines and envy silently.

      With language removed.
      1. +3
        11 January 2018 14: 52
        When people cease to be silent, envy thieves and crooks in power, you will not be either, and you will swallow a cigarette butt silently with your tongue.
        I do not envy you and people like you. But office plankton also has a right to exist, earning money for bread with its own hands.
        Those who do not work should not eat full and fat, as is happening now.
    3. +1
      11 January 2018 14: 15
      Quote: shinobi
      Smoke on the sidelines and envy silently.

      And if not a smoker? stop Can sugar be compensated? feel
      1. +1
        12 January 2018 14: 31
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Quote: shinobi
        Smoke on the sidelines and envy silently.

        And if not a smoker? stop Can sugar be compensated? feel

        stop No, really. "Who does not smoke - that digs" / army "wisdom" /. laughing
  7. +1
    11 January 2018 08: 04
    Over Sobchak in Russia really laugh. She is called “blonde with botox lips” (“Die Blondine mit den Botox-artig gepolsterten Lippen”), and she is reminded of the famous “vulgar” reality show - “2 House”. This oppositionist, as Scholl believes, "does not take herself seriously."

    ... And who can take this "seriously", as it were, and not run into administrators ... well, in general, a very bad person in ALL respects?!? laughing
  8. +4
    11 January 2018 08: 07
    Such a cult knows no precedent, for dictators like Stalin or Mao Zedong in their days had neither social networks, nor the Internet at all, where the personality cult would be heated. Putin has both the Internet and networks, the correspondent notes.
    I also have internet. And the Internet appeared with me precisely under Putin. I think this is no accident laughing
    1. +2
      11 January 2018 09: 46
      Neither Sergey Mironov nor Gennady Zyuganov are participating in the elections today. But Pavel Grudinin and Ksenia Sobchak will test their strength.
      In vain Mironov did not go.
      With such a slogan, I think he would have won the first round good
      1. +6
        11 January 2018 11: 13
        He knows that no one listens to him, that’s what he says, until they allow him and kick him out of the rostrum.
    2. +4
      11 January 2018 14: 29
      Quote: Less
      And the Internet appeared with me precisely under Putin

      Internet is good! Adult Sites feel , online shopping with moonshine drinks ... What else does a pensioner need. To meet a "happy" old age ?! winked What should I say thank you to Putin? what Oh well ... stop the number of putriots is growing ... fellow there will be someone to tell ... bully
    3. 0
      12 January 2018 15: 11
      Quote: Less
      Such a cult knows no precedent, for dictators like Stalin or Mao Zedong in their days had neither social networks, nor the Internet at all, where the personality cult would be heated. Putin has both the Internet and networks, the correspondent notes.
      I also have internet. And appeared I have the Internet under Putin. I think this is no accident laughing

      And with me under Yeltsin. True, there were practically no "politoty" in it, but the "Dolls" program on TV was. Forgot?

      You can say a "prophetic" video.
      Putin "built", or rather, "threw" almost everyone who brought him to power.
      Well, except for Yeltsin - he built the Yeltsin Center for him.
  9. +8
    11 January 2018 08: 59
    In Russia, no one doubts that Putin will win. For the Kremlin, one thing is important: the government wants to have a vote of confidence from the people — let Putin have an 70% of votes with an 70-percent turnout.
    Something so far Superputin loses miserably to “invited by the Kremlin political technologists” Grudinin miserably - 29% against 57%
    http://president-rf.ru/page/rejting-kandidatov
    1. +2
      11 January 2018 09: 11
      Something so far Superputin loses miserably to “invited by the Kremlin political technologists” Grudinin miserably - 29% against 57%

      Anyway, Putin is to blame ... what
      Grudinin, as a politician, is weak ... all kinds of polls are of little value in truth ... in them you can make SOBCHAK a leader of voters. smile
      1. +5
        11 January 2018 09: 15
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Grudinin, as a politician, is weak ... all kinds of polls are of little value in truth ... in them you can make SOBCHAK a leader of voters.

        So what won't they do ?! Putin’s got 400 million in the election fund, yours is 19, and Grudinin’s only a thousand miserable, and such a result from the questionnaire - where are the attempts of all paid Internet trolls ?!
        http://tass.ru/politika/4860736
      2. +11
        11 January 2018 09: 50
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        all polls are now worth little in truth ...

        It's true.
        But why take away from Stirbjorn(and others like that) favorite toy?
        Let them make fun ... they have a little left, two months of some request
      3. +9
        11 January 2018 11: 15
        So what a strong Putin refuses to debate.
        1. +10
          11 January 2018 11: 46
          Quote: stas
          So what a strong Putin refuses to debate.

          I think, because he has something to do, besides empty thrashing.
          1. +8
            11 January 2018 13: 46
            In the sense? And what does he do in press conferences for 4 hours? It’s easy to answer everyone and nobody.
            1. +7
              11 January 2018 18: 29
              A press conference involves more or less constructive communication, during the press conference you can voice ... a lot of useful things, I’ll say so.
              Your favorite debate is Soloviev’s talk show, a waste of time and no constructiveness.
              1. +2
                11 January 2018 23: 56
                Golovan Jack is also special in licking the King. When do you linger, or never until the thieves stole.
                Jack is the King not obliged to carry out the Constitution.
                During the 18 years of his reign, he never spoke in debate. He is afraid that they will wash without soap in full.
                1. +6
                  12 January 2018 00: 04
                  Quote: stas
                  But is the Tsar not obliged to carry out the Constitution.
                  For 18 years of his reign, he never spoke in debate

                  Show me the place in the Constitution, where it is written about d'Ebats (tired of swallowing dust, I suggest. But anyway - show).
                  With your sobs, you lick to the Americans, who already openly say and write that Grudinin is their last hope.
                  Regrettably for you request
          2. +3
            11 January 2018 21: 33
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            I think, because he has something to do, besides empty thrashing.

            Putin’s empty thrashing:
            1. +8
              11 January 2018 21: 48
              What is this ... dung, excuse my French?
              When you learn to express your thoughts (if any) with words, come in.
              Leave the demotivators Sling cutterdo not beat the guy’s bread laughing
              1. 0
                11 January 2018 23: 12
                As always, someone has cockroaches in their heads, someone has dung beetles.
                1. +5
                  11 January 2018 23: 14
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  As always, someone has cockroaches in their heads, someone has dung beetles.

                  And someone has sawdust ...
                  It's me about Winnie the Pooh, if wink
                  1. +2
                    12 January 2018 00: 03
                    Jack, what about the fly in your head. Jack in you believe that, power in Russia belongs to the people. Or is it not the royal business of the Tsar to share power with the people.
                    1. +6
                      12 January 2018 00: 06
                      Stasik (not a cockroach), tell me better about Grudinin.
                      I’m kind to you - you only have two months left to play, and then you will have to forget your favorite toy ...
                      Pichalka request
                      1. +2
                        12 January 2018 00: 24
                        Jack, don’t tell a gop who will have sadness. If Pu wins, it will definitely be sadness and not for me alone.
                        But the King assumes, and God determines. Let’s look at 19 of March on Pu’s face, no matter how it turns sour, from Pyrrhic victory.
                  2. +1
                    12 January 2018 00: 11
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    It's me about Winnie the Pooh, if

                    A bunch of stink, dead flies
                    this is Perenius Pooh died
                    neither groaning nor nozzles-
                    Only a mountain of rotten sawdust .... crying wassat
                    Well, throw it on the fan and on. him to reverse Yes
                    1. +6
                      12 January 2018 00: 18
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      neither groaning nor nozzles-
                      Only a mountain of rotten sawdust

                      Not to rhyme ...
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Well, throw it on the fan and on. him to reverse

                      Yes, you're not right Sling cutter, Rifmoplyuiem laughing
                      Begin to master the white verse Sling cutter. Rhyme - not yours, well, not Pushkin even once.
                      Agitation here to stick up - then yes ... well, at least we learned Yes
                      1. +1
                        12 January 2018 00: 25
                        It’s better to hang noodles from the Tsar for 18 years. But there is an end to everything, and bad too.
      4. +9
        11 January 2018 13: 22
        Grudinin as a politician is weak .. ,,
        of course, whether Putin went to kindergarten became a competent politician.
    2. +2
      11 January 2018 09: 13
      Well, and you say-there is no democracy. The elections are ahead, let’s see.
      Some Western "partners" through the mouth of journalists thus express despair that the plans for the democratization of Russia have not come true. They doom ironically, realizing that this time they did not succeed in overthrowing Putin and Russia.
      And we will wait for the election.
      Suddenly, the aspirations of our “partners” will come true, and they will finally succeed, what have they been striving for so passionately for the past few years?
      Our job as voters is to either help them in this or to prevent them.
      The choice is yours.
    3. +4
      11 January 2018 10: 46
      Correct, everything will be fine. Otherwise, how, otherwise dispossession and felling.
      1. +2
        11 January 2018 15: 27
        Yes, crooks and thieves are afraid to go to jail for theft. They surely have a prison under Grudinin and work in the fresh air under guard, in sunny Magadan, to the benefit of all and not just their beloved ones.
  10. +16
    11 January 2018 09: 11
    As Aristotle said, pure democracy is possible only in a city (polis), whose population does not exceed 10 thousand people.
    So, in general, it is nowhere to be found.
    1. +1
      11 January 2018 09: 18
      In the days of Aristotle there was no Television and the Internet and the population was not able to read, write, lol
      1. +15
        11 January 2018 14: 25
        Television and Internet democracy do not add
        Mass manipulation tools
  11. +13
    11 January 2018 09: 20
    Forgive me for being rude, but let them go on a hoax with their democracy, zadolbali. They have a colloidal mixture of fine soil in their heads, not the brain. Yes, we have a strong leader, and he has serious authority in the country, and this leads to the fact that the information agenda cannot do without him. So what? Better when the steering clowns such as Hollande, Macron or May? Yes, to hell with him with a cult. There is nothing wrong with the fact that the majority of people relate to their leader with reverence, worse when the leaders are macaques in which only lazy dung does not rush. And the notorious Western "democracy" is a bugbear that makes me sick. The worst thing is that it has caused so many deaths and wars that it is time to consider the issue of criminal punishment for the propaganda of Western democracy, along with Nazism.
    1. 0
      11 January 2018 09: 34
      Your message is the best on the thread.
    2. +1
      11 January 2018 12: 24
      Western democracy ™ is not a panacea, nor an ideal of any kind, but simply a working scheme of government, which allows you to prolong power without any problems.
      Today we have developed a system that has obvious problems with continuity and prolongation. Therefore, Putin has been sitting as president since 2000. And he will sit until 2024. I believe that he would have been glad to be retired, but he cannot. Just because the state system in terms of transferring power in Russia does not work. There are no political parties (one props), so there is no constructive opposition. Of course, you can prepare successors, and choose them in virtually no alternative elections, but sooner or later (rather sooner) the government will stumble on someone like Gorbachev / Yeltsin / etc. And the rake will be repeated.
      You can scold the American system, and you won’t be denied one thing: it is protected from fools and mistakes. In fact, it’s not so important for the USA who is sitting in the White House.
      We also need to develop some kind of our own system, which ensures the prolongation of power and course. Today, these functions are performed exclusively by some unspoken agreements between the authorities and the oligarchy. While this is working. But will it work after the 24th? Is not a fact. And this uncertainty is very destructive for the country, and for the government, and for the nation.
      1. +2
        12 January 2018 00: 39
        Quote: Anyone
        You can scold the American system, and you won’t be denied one thing: it is protected from fools and mistakes. In fact, it’s not so important for the USA who is sitting in the White House.

        Just this and can not be allowed, as in the United States. There, greedy animals at the helm, who have no responsibility, because the president is formally ruled by a sex rag. As soon as she gets dirty - they change her. And before replacing her, they will wipe out the dirtiest places ... Remember Obama ... A man who wants to leave positive memories of himself when he leaves,
        NEVER will do such vile and stupid things. ONLY DIRECTED. This is where the states are dangerous, that there decisions are made by people who will not bear any responsibility for this! And in the states, ordinary people already perfectly understand this ... But here we have not everything fool
    3. 0
      11 January 2018 13: 49
      Only the miracle of the Lord and no other way, keep England and France in the leaders of the Western world. How are they without Putin?
      1. +2
        11 January 2018 16: 24
        You and the leaders somehow got excited. These countries have long been not leaders, but mongrels. Only now the owner began to bite sometimes. The only, not even a leader, namely the owner, the states. And all their leadership grows from the looting and subjugation of others, as the British Empire at one time.
        Do you propose to equal them? I am very grateful, I do not want to. Their system has an obvious advantage, the lack of responsibility for their tricks in relation to plundered.
        This is a serious question of the continuity of power, I agree. It’s easier for them in this regard, it doesn’t matter who pull the strings if the puppeteers continue to rob.
  12. +3
    11 January 2018 09: 28
    But Merkel, with her attempts to get out for the 4th term, is just a model of democracy ?! crying
  13. +3
    11 January 2018 09: 30
    I don’t understand where the author was hanging around (Rafael Manueco), that he saw portraits of our president in large quantities.
    The city of Nizhny Novgorod. Not a single portrait in public places, billboards, train stations, etc.
    Maybe they hang in the administration of the region and the city, so then they are supposed to lean on their faces (zadu).
    In the summer I was in Adler, Gelendzhik, Anapa, a lot of things where they sell, markets there, souvenir shops, T-shirts, mugs ... Well, as always. But there is no dominance of Putin. Along with the shirt "The best grandmother in the world."
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  15. +1
    11 January 2018 11: 19
    Ha ha ha ... INOSMI is confused by our Putin that he himself, his behavior both inside the country and in foreign policy does not fit into their understanding, well, there cannot be such a person in reality. All this is due to the fact that the peoples of the West have lost faith in their leaders, in their honesty and objectivity. From that, all Western leaders - imperfections, inconspicuous, indecisive, far from the true desires of their peoples, so all once attacked our PRESIDENT PUTIN with hatred and envy with the desire to destroy him, in order to do everything again as it was before Putin appeared. I wish our VLADIMIR VLADIMIROV a STRONG HEALTH and GOOD LUCK GOOD LUCK IN HIS UNDERSTANDING THE DESIRE OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE. I WISH GOOD LUCK AND OUR GREAT UNIQUE (and it is such in its history) RUSSIA
  16. +2
    11 January 2018 12: 04
    That rare case when I ABSOLUTELY agree with the Western media
  17. -1
    11 January 2018 12: 20
    They found a cult of personality ... in my house, a painted portrait of Putin, in the office of Putin and Shoigu. At the same time, of course, there is no adoration of the country's leader or fear of the “regime”.
  18. +1
    11 January 2018 12: 42
    Quote: stas
    What to envy?
    In Greece, the minimum pension is 500 euros.
    In Germany, unemployment benefits 700 euros. And we have a veteran of work with 40 years of experience and 200 does not receive euros. And the officials of the Tsar have a different pension system there and they have 70 thousand.
    There is nothing to envy. He is the King, the King.


    It’s ridiculous to read when they start shouting “what are their pensions and benefits”, citing various figures as “evidence” ... while not citing prices as an example, because you can get a pension of 500 euros, but “suck a paw” by the end of the month

    The richest country in the world is Zimbabwe; your EU pensioners and homeless people smoke nervously aside with their miserable 500-700 euros. The people in Zimbabwe receive hundreds of billions of dollars in wages.

    in Zimbabwe, the cheapest toilet roll cost $ 100.
    July 4, 2008 at 17:00 local time, the price of one bottle of the strongest beer was one hundred billion Zimbabwean dollars, and an hour later, fifty billion more.
    1. -1
      11 January 2018 12: 48
      Quote: Oleg Monarchist
      Quote: stas
      What to envy?
      In Greece, the minimum pension is 500 euros.
      In Germany, unemployment benefits 700 euros. And we have a veteran of work with 40 years of experience and 200 does not receive euros. And the officials of the Tsar have a different pension system there and they have 70 thousand.
      There is nothing to envy. He is the King, the King.


      It’s ridiculous to read when they start shouting “what are their pensions and benefits”, citing various figures as “evidence” ... while not citing prices as an example, because you can get a pension of 500 euros, but “suck a paw” by the end of the month

      The richest country in the world is Zimbabwe; your EU pensioners and homeless people smoke nervously aside with their miserable 500-700 euros. The people in Zimbabwe receive hundreds of billions of dollars in wages.

      in Zimbabwe, the cheapest toilet roll cost $ 100.
      July 4, 2008 at 17:00 local time, the price of one bottle of the strongest beer was one hundred billion Zimbabwean dollars, and an hour later, fifty billion more.

      In Israel, a pension (on average) is $ 1500 a month. Prices are on average twice as high, i.e. how to get 750 tanks in the Russian Federation - 42000 ₽.
      Moreover, the retirement age of men is 67 years, i.e. Mortgages paid, children unlearn, everything goes in your pocket.
      1. -1
        11 January 2018 15: 26
        And in Russia, the retirement age is 60 years. Seven years better.
    2. +1
      12 January 2018 00: 30
      The monarchist, he is the monarchist, it was not in vain that they threw her off in 1917. The monarchist is ridiculous to you, but for many who live on 8-10 thousand pensions, it’s not even funny. No wonder the monarchist supports the Tsarist regime in Russia.
      1. +1
        12 January 2018 11: 26
        stas
        The monarchist, he is the monarchist, it was not in vain that they threw her off in 1917. The monarchist is ridiculous to you, but for many who live on 8-10 thousand pensions, it’s not even funny. No wonder the monarchist supports the Tsarist regime in Russia.


        Are you a liberal? I’m asking, simply because the “monarchy” was not thrown off by the Bolsheviks, but by the liberals in February 1917, and only then the Bolsheviks bent the liberals. As for "not in vain" ... in the European Union, whose pensions you admire so much, large pensions are in the monarchies (Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Great Britain, Luxembourg) laughing
        Now about Greece and why it’s funny for me ... That is, you transferred 500 euros at the exchange rate, received more than 40 thousand rubles and went crazy of such happiness. But you see what the problem is, Greek pensioners spend their 500 euros not in Russia, but in Greece, and there 500 euros is "about nothing." This is “below the poverty line” for Greece laughing
        https://ria.ru/world/20160929/1478124933.html

        When will you stop drooling at the sight of Back Europe.
        1. 0
          12 January 2018 12: 12
          You are not a smart monarchist at all, I’m for the Soviet Motherland, without capitalists, liberals, oligarchs, swindlers and thieves.
          So, you yourself wipe your drooling, to see one gyrus does not allow to think really.

          Russia's most important liberal is Putin and his beloved and dear oligarchs, with capitalist ministers led by DAM.
          1. 0
            12 January 2018 12: 58
            stas
            You are not a smart monarchist at all, I’m for the Soviet Motherland, without capitalists, liberals, oligarchs, swindlers and thieves.
            So, you yourself wipe your drooling, to see one gyrus does not allow to think really.
            Russia's most important liberal is Putin and his beloved and dear oligarchs, with capitalist ministers led by DAM.


            Yes, there is no your Soviet homeland, your parteigenoss-swindlers and thieves ruined it, they ate it in the Obkomov canteen and the city special rations.
            Who created all these "union, like fraternal" republics? Bolsheviks. Factories, factories and all sorts of collective farms who sold out? Also the Bolsheviks. Because each director of the plant or the chairman of the collective farm, without exception, was a tribal Bolshevik.
            And what did you, all of yourself so really multi-sinuous, have done to preserve your "SAVIET Homeland" laughing
  19. 0
    11 January 2018 13: 01
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Quote: Oleg Monarchist
    Quote: stas
    What to envy?
    In Greece, the minimum pension is 500 euros.
    In Germany, unemployment benefits 700 euros. And we have a veteran of work with 40 years of experience and 200 does not receive euros. And the officials of the Tsar have a different pension system there and they have 70 thousand.
    There is nothing to envy. He is the King, the King.


    It’s ridiculous to read when they start shouting “what are their pensions and benefits”, citing various figures as “evidence” ... while not citing prices as an example, because you can get a pension of 500 euros, but “suck a paw” by the end of the month

    The richest country in the world is Zimbabwe; your EU pensioners and homeless people smoke nervously aside with their miserable 500-700 euros. The people in Zimbabwe receive hundreds of billions of dollars in wages.

    in Zimbabwe, the cheapest toilet roll cost $ 100.
    July 4, 2008 at 17:00 local time, the price of one bottle of the strongest beer was one hundred billion Zimbabwean dollars, and an hour later, fifty billion more.

    In Israel, a pension (on average) is $ 1500 a month. Prices are on average twice as high, i.e. how to get 750 tanks in the Russian Federation - 42000 ₽.
    Moreover, the retirement age of men is 67 years, i.e. Mortgages paid, children unlearn, everything goes in your pocket.


    Is everything in your pocket? This is good of course. Well, of course, you don’t need to buy food in retirement, you don’t have to pay for utilities either, you don’t need clothes, gas or travel to the general. transport is free, honey services are free ... Know store loot in your pocket laughing Well, maybe in Israel pensioners live more or less than normal, but in the UK there are about 30-40 thousand people. annually in their homes it freezes to death, because it will either buy it or pay for heating, and the heating prices there are decent. But pensions in pounds receive.
    1. -1
      11 January 2018 13: 03
      Everything in your pocket is not necessary to pay a mortgage and toss to children)))
      Honey. insurance services, clothing is slightly cheaper than in the Russian Federation, food, water, electricity are two times more expensive, medicines are subsidized.
    2. 0
      11 January 2018 23: 15
      Everything rests on cosmic energy there - part of it falls into the same pocket.
  20. 0
    11 January 2018 13: 07
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Everything in your pocket is not necessary to pay a mortgage and toss to children)))

    What does "mortgage and toss to children" ...
    If you write, for example, "they have a pension of 500 euros," then write how much the pensioner's living expenses.
    1. -1
      11 January 2018 16: 31
      Quote: Oleg Monarchist
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Everything in your pocket is not necessary to pay a mortgage and toss to children)))

      What does "mortgage and toss to children" ...
      If you write, for example, "they have a pension of 500 euros," then write how much the pensioner's living expenses.

      The average pension is $ 1500.
      Prices are twice as high.
      Those. it is as if in Russia to receive a pension of $ 750. (42000 XNUMX ₽)
      The second time I write)))
      1. 0
        11 January 2018 19: 15
        I'm Krasnodar:
        And what, in Russia, the average pension is 42000?
        This is where such, in which region? (Judges with prosecutors and deputies should not be cited as an example)
        1. -1
          11 January 2018 20: 34
          Quote: Kuzyakin15
          I'm Krasnodar:
          And what, in Russia, the average pension is 42000?
          This is where such, in which region? (Judges with prosecutors and deputies should not be cited as an example)

          )))))))
          In Israel
          $ 1500 average
          Prices are twice as high
          It's like in the Russian Federation to receive 42000 r per month
          I repeat the third time
          1500: 2 = 750
          750 * 56,9 approximately 42000 rubles
          About Israel wrote
  21. 0
    11 January 2018 13: 25
    It became interesting to me, but did the German inhabitants also get acquainted with the opinion of Russian journalists about the next re-election of German Chancellor Frau Merkel? Or are the French there, not to mention the Americans? And yet where is democracy? The fact that Sobchak and Yavlinsky political impotent is Putin too? In my opinion, these Scholl are PR and earn money on Putin themselves by nurturing, fanning and cultivating his image. Envy, as they say, silently, you will marry a smart one! Where are their Trumps, Merkel, Mayam and others to our Vladimir Vladimirovich!
    1. +7
      11 January 2018 15: 07
      Poor viewers of federal channels, for the most part they are fans of the current irremovable president ... Do you know how to analyze information or believe propaganda pouring from TV? People are rapidly getting poorer, prices are rising, money is being wasted on incomprehensible adventures such as the Syrian or the Olympics, world championships, Universiades at We forgive all debts for this. At the same time, we collect children by SMS on TV, salaries of 15000, pensions of 10000, general corruption and theft, gloom in healthcare and the horror of education .. we are 70th in GDP, but in the latter by life expectancy level of health care and corruption And this is in the richest country in the world where 40% of the world's resources are concentrated !! Why are a handful of cronies close to the people enjoying the wealth of the country? Where are breakthrough discoveries in science and achievements in the economy, except for gas transportation projects? Where are the 25 million slaves that they promised us? Where is innovation and import substitution? Where is the fight against offshore? All the largest companies are still registered in offshore and continue to withdraw money from the country. The last argument is WHO IF NOT HE ... there are 140 million worthy honest and educated people who can serve their homeland !?
      1. +1
        11 January 2018 15: 46
        You know, people like you are touching me with criticism of my thinking ... let yours, if you will ... and so the questions to you: - Why did you think that your truth is more correct than mine and your analytical abilities are higher than mine (or those with disagree with you), did you invent a durometer? - Tell me who, in your opinion, really has the support of Russian citizens and surpasses Putin in honesty of education, competence and other qualities necessary for the head of state? - Do you think the poor people are the goal of President Putin? -You know what salary is in Russia, and now name the USA for example and voice for us, poor viewers of federal channels, how much an appendectomy costs in the notorious America. - Theft, rampant corruption, is Putin pushing this too? -Offshores, so make merchants pay taxes, salaries, and withdraw from the citizenship of other states, only right there you will be told that the tsar, de, has flown off the coils, is violating democracy, destroying liberal values ​​and again a bad circle. -25 million jobs? So create at least 25 yourself, why do you think that someone owes you something? -You may think anything, they say that when it seems you need to be baptized, but the fact that you are trying to judge what you by your own admission do not understand anything characterizes you in a certain way, and since you are such an outstanding analyst, I suggest you make your own assessment. .. Or did Putin manage to do this too?
        1. +6
          11 January 2018 16: 41
          You do not juggle the dear, do you really think that our people are worthy of an irremovable president? I’ll say this about the support of Russian citizens if any politician had the same opportunity and media support, the chances of a protege Yeltsin and a friend Sobchak would have decreased significantly. The average salary in the United States for you, as you asked ... NURSES — from 3000 to 7000 dollars, CASSIR —1200 to 2000 dollars, will you translate into rubles yourself? ENGINEER FROM 5000 dollars. Theft and corruption is also the result of his government, or he doesn’t responsible for the bad? But like DAM and mythical liberals with whom he supposedly can’t do anything since 2000? My responsibilities as a citizen are not to fight offshore in the same way as to create jobs, for this there is a state and its head, who personally promised millions of slave jobs . Mr. Wrestler with State Department agents answered all the questions? Oh yes, you decided to make smart things about the cost of the operation, and so with the cost of the operation, for example, $ 100, you will pay $ 000-3 from your pocket, this is how insurance medicine works in the USA and most often for Your employer pays for your insurance. Although this country is not a leader in healthcare. Maybe ask about Canada, for example?
          1. +2
            11 January 2018 17: 19
            You don’t need to skimp ... dear, for people like you are always around and to blame for everything, just you are engaged in juggling, like the accusations of everyone and everything that is beloved by the State Department - no, they crap a little, much more harmful like you - living here and shitting, stupidly watering everything with sewage of everyone and everything ... go to the United States once you have been fed there or to Canada ... tell us for one thing how everything will be there and everyone should. Nurses really earn from 3 and up, only this is a very good salary there, the seller is about 1,5 ... uncomplicated appendectomy 20-35, policies, if this is not a successful dentist, they will cover 10 -15, 15-20 from your pocket ... so it’s not 3-5, although I frighten you off - go on, it’s waking you up well ... The analyst from you, excuse me, like a bullet from shit ... but who and what is worthy is not for you to judge, yours the level is very clear.
            1. +4
              11 January 2018 17: 39
              You will learn how to write correctly, a wrestler with agents of the State Department “...”. GO ”- it’s a disgrace, if my opinion doesn’t coincide with yours, you don’t need to be hysterical, and hang up labels too, a strange thing when the arguments end, EXIT HERE, STATE DEPARTMENT AGENTS, etc. some kind of trend By the way, your level of EXIT is already clear to me too
              1. +1
                11 January 2018 17: 56
                I asked simple questions in reply, except for the spelling lesson, I didn’t hear anything intelligible, but “go” to make it clear to you, there is a term such irony that you probably don’t know and return to you “when the arguments end” ... go, dear, you are not worthy, so long as your level is “go” so that it is clear that “Leningrad” has a good song.
                1. +1
                  11 January 2018 21: 17
                  Are you on a paycheck or is it really such a ... erratic?
                  1. 0
                    12 January 2018 09: 46
                    "Analyst", can you read? What a pitiful you are ... you started for the people, but ended up counting money in someone else's pockets. You are not sapiens you are erectus.
              2. +1
                12 January 2018 00: 37
                Sapiens, if the people get up then you won’t go, you will groan from the boot in the ass. It’s easier to drive out 2% of crooks and thieves, then the remaining 98% will heal better and more justly.
                So do not dissolve your little tree, it’s difficult to fight with the people.
  22. +1
    11 January 2018 15: 23
    Listen, guys, what will your grandfather tell you! "Our land is rich, there is only no order in it!" ............................. ..............
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    M.S. "Gorby" was a name for him ... because he was a serious. Solid person! Techniques are not sweet, but not lame in reason ... this brought order. That "roll the ball"!
    And then Borka began to reign .... "father" a lively contrast! There was no mind in reason ... only a lot of ringing!
    And the Third appeared, and he said: "Naughty! We are not children now!" (sent "pindosam" -shish ...)
    And now the earth is free from all evils and troubles! And it’s very farmer ...... And yet there’s no order ..............
  23. 0
    11 January 2018 15: 27
    And the elections in the "countries of true democracies" elections are held according to other scenarios. We hold elections to protect and preserve our country and we do not care about the so-called "the world democratic community of the Anglo-Saxons."
  24. +5
    11 January 2018 19: 39
    A. so Putin? Putin is a failed security officer (KGBist)
    - failed prime minister; not held ....
    But Ways a fully-held TRUS, he never went to debate.
    And why ALL "SINS" of socialism of currencies against Stalin, and from Putin like water off a duck? ....
    Think guys - think ....
    1. 0
      11 January 2018 23: 23
      But he gets in touch, in a straight line, with all of Russia.
      1. 0
        12 January 2018 00: 19
        And then she brags to DAMA - as I hung noodles for these sheep, study my son, you will be the eternal King, while these people believe.
  25. +1
    12 January 2018 01: 00
    Began!
    The captains of Russian business en masse buy tickets in order to dump in Malta.
    Alfa Bank twice betrayed Russia.
    Alfa’s statement on the Russian defense industry was shocked by many, but why aren’t you surprised by the behavior of the top management of the largest state bank in Russia - Sberbank? Gref openly, like Friedman, joined the anti-Russian sanctions of the West, refusing to open branches of the state (!) Sber in the Crimea and Sevastopol. Such a position is surprising even among Western politicians. Remember the words of the head of the IMF (Rothschild Fund), Mrs. Lagarde, who, in a fit of revelation, said: "If your largest state bank does not recognize that Crimea is Russia, then why do you require such a thing from us?"

    More than 70% of Russian large-scale industry is owned by foreign offshore companies. Consider almost the entire domestic economy is controlled "from behind the hill." And in the current federal government this fact is considered normal. Otherwise, how can one explain the decision of the “Shuvalov commission” about the impossibility of forcing deoffshorization, because it will lead to a systemic crisis in the Russian economy ?! Shuvalov is right: the system that he and his brothers (Kudrins, Dvorkovichs, Grefs, etc.) implemented in Russia will literally collapse. A system will be crumbled that is designed only for pumping money out of Russia. They do not care about the development of the economy, the impoverishment of the country's population, it is important for them to get the cache here and send it there.

    And much more:

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned), Kirill Budanov (included to the Rosfinmonitoring list of terrorists and extremists)

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