Soldiers of Roosevelt and Churchill and "Operation Robbery"

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The “trophy fever” that really engulfed the Red Army in the last months of the war was by no means an exceptional phenomenon in the troops of the victorious powers. Meanwhile, the “trophy” theme is now being actively used for propaganda anti-Russian purposes. Suffice it to recall the sadly famous photograph in which a Soviet soldier and a German woman are pulling a bicycle in different directions. The accusers of the Soviet soldier usually forget to ask about what was happening in the allied forces. But there is something to compare.



There was an undermining of safes in order to assign their contents.

For example, the famous British historian Anthony Beevor writes about this:

“The facts of the robbery by the Allied forces were recorded long before their units crossed the Reich border. “On the basis of the items found in the soldiers,” the report said, prepared for the American command during the Ardennes battle, “we can make an unequivocal conclusion: the robbery of the property of the Belgian civilian population is carried out on a significant scale.” There was an undermining of safes in order to assign their contents. Before entering a village located in Central or Southern Germany, the American military police installed special posters that read: "Do not exceed the speed, do not rob, do not fraternize with the civilian population." However, all these warnings had no effect on the Allied soldiers.

Further to the north, British troops were advancing. An officer of the Scottish Guard, who later became a judge, noticed that it would be more accurate to call the operation to force the Rhine as “Operation Robbery”. He described how the broken windows of the stores were what might be called the “paradise for thieves”. “It was impossible to prevent robbery,” the former Scottish officer recalled, “only to limit it to the appropriation of small items.” Here tankers turned out to be in a better position, who could place everything in their combat vehicles - from typewriters to radio sets ... I began to shout at the soldiers of my platoon who were robbing the house instead of sweeping it. But suddenly I discovered that two binoculars stuck somewhere somewhere already hang on me! ”

Repatriated are widely occupied with robberies and flea deeds

More independent in their actions, such as, for example, SAS teams (special airborne service - auth.), Were respectively more ambitious. One officer later noted that "Monty was concerned about the problem of looting." Whereas Field Marshal Alexander, apparently, "treated her more calmly." In one or two cases, bold robberies were committed in the country villas, which could have been entered into history of the criminal world, since very expensive jewelry was stolen. One of the SAS divisions found a store of works of art that belonged to Goering's wife. He removed the cream from this collection of the unit commander himself. After which he allowed his subordinates to make their choice. The canvases were cut out of frames, rolled up and put in mortar barrels ”.

At checkpoints, American soldiers carefully examined all passing German soldiers, trying to determine if there were any SS, foreigners or civilians among them. Some Americans took away watches and medals from the Germans, as well as personal weapon.

However, the case was not limited to the military alone. The report of the military prosecutor of the 1 of the Belarusian Front on the implementation of the Supreme Command’s directive on changing attitudes towards the German population, prepared by 2 in May 1945, noted: “Repatriated, followed by repatriation points, and especially Italians, are widely involved in robbery and flea-trade Dutch and even Germans. In this case, all these outrages fall on our soldiers ... ".

That is, repatriated residents of the states occupied by Germany also contributed to this. They had their own attitudes toward German state and private property. She was not considered inviolable at all. It is curious whether there have been bouts of mass repentance in Italy or Holland about this? Or did they decide that people who were forcibly sent to work in Germany were entitled to secure themselves for the first time at the expense of German property? What can we say about the prisoners freed from concentration camps?

Prosperous Englishmen select watches from overgrown German soldiers

But the right to use the property of surrendered enemy soldiers primarily belonged to the soldiers of the victorious side.
Here's how German chief corporal Kopiske described his first meeting with the British military in May 1945 of the year when he surrendered to captivity: "A little further, at a railway crossing just before the village, we were met by a" weapons collection station and a watch. " I thought I was dreaming about it: civilized, prosperous Englishmen take the watch away from the overgrown mud of German soldiers! From there we were sent to the schoolyard in the center of the village. There have already gathered a lot of German soldiers. The Englishmen guarding us threw chewing gum between our teeth - which was new to us - and they were praising each other with their trophies, throwing up their hands, humbled by their wrist watches. ”

It is curious that modern exposers of the Red Army somehow forget to describe what was happening on the territory controlled by the troops of the “Western democracies”. Let us only try to imagine modern newspaper headlines: "Roosevelt and Churchill's soldiers carried out" Operation Robbery "," The part of Germany captured by the Western allies became "a paradise for thieves", "Field Marshal Alexander was calm about robberies, and Montgomery was concerned about them." Well, why not reflect on the behavior of the soldiers and officers of the Anglo-American troops?

However, neither American nor British soldiers could remind the Germans in their defense: “Do you remember what you were doing in our occupied territories, how much you stole?” The American didn’t have to return to completely destroyed cities after the war , in the village, where often there simply wasn’t a single unbroken house, where women began to forget what is not something beautiful, but just new clothes without patches, and the children simply didn’t know. It was just such a difficult return for the Soviet soldiers and officers. And now they must be condemned for having finally reached Germany, they tried to at least somehow compensate for their material losses at the expense of the executioners and robbers of their country, tried to send at least something valuable home to their families? Not to mention the fact that what was sent could have saved the family from starvation, often the package from the front simply gave the woman in the Union the only opportunity to dress in any decent way.
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  1. +10
    14 January 2018 07: 28
    «
    Trophy fever ", which really engulfed the Red Army in the last months of the war, was not at all an exceptional occurrence in the troops of the victorious powers
    Do not forget that reparations from Germany covered only 4 (four) percent of the damage caused to the USSR.
    The rest was forgiven by the new "friends." And if all damage had been repaid, then Germany would not have remained at all.
    What are the trophies of our soldiers? pennies.
    1. +4
      14 January 2018 07: 52
      I began to shout at the soldiers of my platoon, who robbed the house instead of cleaning it up. But all of a sudden I discovered that I myself already had two binoculars seized somewhere! ”


      Here is an artist smile
      shouted and go carry more ... little ... I want more.
      1. +6
        14 January 2018 08: 29
        Let's still decide on the terminology ... Robbery is the seizure of material assets a kind of threat ... And if you know that your house burned down and your family huddled in a dugout ... Then this is probably still a small compensation for the damage ...
        1. +6
          14 January 2018 10: 00
          This is called "debt recovery." And so I do not blame our soldiers, who picked up things useful for the economy in empty houses and sent them by mail to their relatives. It’s no secret that East Germany was practically deserted, the Germans, pumped up to the horrors of the Soviets by Goebbels propaganda, which hammered the Germans that the Soviets would force-kill and brutally kill everyone, almost without exception, Soviet soldiers fled to the west, and Soviet soldiers almost never met. This was only later, in March-April 1945, when there was nowhere to run, the German civilian population remained in their homes. Trophies have always been an inviolable reward for a soldier. In my opinion, for all these crimes against the Soviet people, the USSR had all moral and legal grounds to completely rob Germany, right up to the removal of bricks of dismantled houses, sleepers, rails, asphalt, pavers, woods and soil. I am sure that if the Germans would have committed such atrocities in the United States, the Yankees would have carried out general genocide of the German population, physically destroyed all Germans.
          1. +6
            15 January 2018 10: 28
            "And so I do not blame our soldiers, who picked up useful things for the economy in empty houses and sent them by mail to their relatives."
            According to the stories of my mother, who came to Berlin as part of the 370 Brandenburg Rifle Division, our soldiers and officers did not go in and stand at a stand in houses where there were no masters and the doors were closed. Another thing is the Americans. After meeting on the Elbe, they unobstructedly began to move around the locations of our troops, caught up with a huge number of Studebakers, and began a robbery. They knocked the locks off the doors with their butts and literally swept the property out of the rooms onto the cars. Where they could not open the doors or gates, they drove the cars backwards and broke out the doors. They exported all property to the Baltic ports of Germany and sent by ships to America.
            1. +2
              18 January 2018 08: 59
              European blood makes itself felt. The British, French, Dutch, Spaniards and Portuguese at one time notably robbed America, Asia and Africa, due to which rich people got rich.
              1. +3
                18 January 2018 10: 16
                "European blood makes itself felt. British, French, Dutch, Spaniards and Portuguese"
                The basis of all the nationalities you have listed is the clan haplogroup R1b1. These are the descendants of those who crossed Gibraltar over three thousand years ago and are still exploring the European space, moving east. But as they say: "And the old woman is a slammer." Now the "new Europeans" from the Middle East and Africa will master the living space they occupy.
      2. +1
        14 January 2018 11: 35
        but I wonder where in a simple house 2 binoculars? why are they there?
        1. +1
          14 January 2018 14: 47
          Quote: Long in stock.
          where in a simple house 2 binoculars?

          Do you think valiant allies chose to rob simple at home?
          1. 0
            14 January 2018 15: 57
            yes, I’m thinking .. if it’s just not the house of a naval officer ... just in an ordinary house, you’ll hardly find at least 1 but then 2 at once ..
        2. +1
          14 January 2018 20: 26
          Quote: Long in stock.
          but I wonder where in a simple house 2 binoculars?

          so one, probably, was him, and the second he "squeezed"
          1. 0
            14 January 2018 23: 06
            then the story should sound like this - I was surprised to find 2 binoculars on me ... and when I thought with even greater surprise I realized that 1 of them is mine .. after thinking about this topic, I suddenly remembered that before that we robbed a wine cellar ..
    2. +4
      14 January 2018 10: 37
      Quote: Olgovich
      Do not forget that reparations from Germany covered only 4 (four) percent of the damage caused to the USSR.

      I don’t understand why to raise this topic? In all Allied armies, soldiers and officers were allowed to send trophy packages home. If allowed, then there were no crimes. Finally. it is impossible to evaluate the life of a soldier in accordions, typewriters and gramophones, especially if he has a looted and destroyed house in his homeland.
      1. Cat
        +3
        14 January 2018 12: 43
        My grandfather told me how his colleague drove the carpet home. Based on his memories, the "carpet" was one for the whole car! And this is a minimum of two platoons of soldiers if not a company. The most important thing in his ernism and humorous story was that it was nooma. And fly into "such a trophy" ooh, how seriously. In other matters, the carpet never arrived!
        Grandfather directly said that the trophy is what was taken in battle, and the rest is “robbery”. Although this did not stop to bring home a 100mm sleeve from its anti-tank gun. Although, in any conversation, he emphasized that he did not fight with this gun. That native 152mm remained in Gkrmania.
        1. +4
          14 January 2018 13: 35
          My maternal grandmother dragged a coat from the front. Mom later said that they tried to take all the gold, which later helped to survive, and the grandmother on the coat began to take a look.
        2. +4
          14 January 2018 13: 56
          My father was engaged in the repair of watches and hunting rifles. What didn’t go through his hands. Already at a conscious age, having started to understand both watches and guns, he asked where such rarities are unique from in the district center. He replied that all this is from the war. But neither unique watches nor rare guns made a special impression on anyone in those distant years. But literally everyone paid tribute to the "intelligence and quick wisdom" of all respected by the grandfather's neighbors Hanan Solomonovich, who brought "from the war" a suitcase of sewing needles and presented them to all those in need. It was an item worth its weight in gold.
          1. +2
            14 January 2018 20: 21
            Quote: Curious
            a suitcase of sewing needles and presented them with all those in need. It was an item worth its weight in gold.

            so bestowed or worth its weight in gold? wink although about the "suitcase of sewing (gramophone) needles" I have already heard somewhere more than once
            1. +1
              14 January 2018 22: 04
              Yes, gramophone needles immediately after the war in the village were a matter of prime necessity. In each hut there is a gramophone, only cares what to sing and dance.
              I did not find this moment, but judging by the neighbors, he certainly did not profit from them.
              1. +1
                15 January 2018 05: 57
                Quote: Curious
                Yes, gramophone needles immediately after the war in the village were a matter of prime necessity.

                I understand your sarcasm, but besides the villages there were also cities, and there, oddly enough, they listened to music
        3. +3
          15 January 2018 05: 45
          My grandfather, an attack pilot, brought a Barcarolla accordion, a Vienna accordion and two Solingen razors from Germany. And he bought this on the market from local for brands. There was no hobbling around the houses. Grandfather very well played the accordion, harmonica and balalaika. Now the razors are kept with me.
  2. +18
    14 January 2018 07: 51
    But didn’t it happen with us?
    The whole thing trophies. A bunch of generals and marshals were involved.
    Dorval guys ...
    1. +3
      14 January 2018 11: 37
      Yes. we had a case of trophies. so that’s exactly what the case was - they condemned, they took the order in order. And they don’t ... from and the difference
      1. 0
        14 January 2018 19: 32
        Quote: long in stock.
        Yes. we had a case of trophies. so that’s exactly what the case was - they condemned, they took the order in order. And they don’t ... from and the difference

        Yes, it was a “trophy case”, a number of very serious military commanders were brought to justice on the orders of Stalin, but they put things in order. That's what A. Kibovsky, head of the department of displaced cultural property of the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation, told the newspaper Trud (No. 064, 09.04.2003)
        ... in the warehouses at first there were a lot of unaccounted for property, which the generals and their wives willingly sorted out. When the so-called “trophy business” began in 1946, among others, they interrogated the chief of the operational sector of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Berlin, Major General Sidnev, through whose hands many antiquities passed. He described in detail how the military commanders came to the depots and chose what they liked. By the way, many of the items for which Sidnev was responsible for the safety still come across in the antique market. Pictures and tapestries - with "native" frames, stretchers, it is clear that they were not taken out by a soldier in a shoulder bag. And another fact: only at the cottage at Zhukov, the MGB discovered during the search 55 paintings, which experts rated as works of art. The canvases were described, seized and sent to the warehouse by the administrators of the Council of Ministers. No one else heard of them.

        Those who had a direct duty to preserve trophy values, and were their main robbers in large quantities for personal purposes. First of all, this is the highest military and party nomenclature, and the functionaries of the NKVD of Soviet troops in Germany. In this “troubled” time, they also found themselves in the hands of numerous so-called cultural values ​​displaced by the Nazis, the fate of some of them remains unknown until now. Some of them are also still in special warehouses and dachas of the hereditary management structures of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, or in the ownership of descendants of the main figures of those years. Currently, studies are continuing to study the export routes of cultural property by the main characters of the NEA (Soviet Military Administration of Germany) of those years and their combat associates. Apparently, the investigation got to something very close. So the article appeared clearly custom-made. Why would they suddenly begin to recall some anonymous Americans and British and the events of more than seventy years ago, when they couldn’t be counted exactly like their own, with a stigma in Ukraine.
        1. +1
          14 January 2018 20: 25
          Quote: A. Privalov
          First of all, this is the highest military and party nomenclature, and the functionaries of the NKVD of Soviet troops in Germany. In this “troubled” time, they also found themselves in the hands of numerous so-called cultural values ​​displaced by the Nazis, the fate of some of them remains unknown until now.

          for these reasons they shot a good film "Dragon Syndrome" fantasy of course, but the plot is exciting
          1. 0
            14 January 2018 21: 27
            Quote: verner1967
            The Dragon Syndrome

            Are you talking about the 2012 series of the year with Mulyar and Merzlikin in the lead roles?
            1. +1
              14 January 2018 22: 04
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Are you talking about the 2012 series of the year with Mulyar and Merzlikin in the lead roles?

              me, me, naturlih
        2. +1
          14 January 2018 22: 51
          everything can be. but about anonymous British and Americans ... recent events are recalled - in Iraq, for example, yes, and in Syria .. it’s very strange when things stolen in museums by unknowns turned out very quickly at auctions in the United States .. yes and you can recall the opium wars. as they joked then - unknown looters who robbed the imperial palace dragged themselves behind the French army right from the Kremlin itself ...
          1. 0
            14 January 2018 23: 10
            Quote: long in stock.
            everything can be. but about anonymous British and Americans ... recent events are recalled - in Iraq, for example, yes, and in Syria .. it’s very strange when things stolen in museums by unknowns turned out very quickly at auctions in the United States .. yes and you can recall the opium wars. as they joked then - unknown looters who robbed the imperial palace dragged themselves behind the French army right from the Kremlin itself ...

            You're right. Someone stole somewhere and quickly sells. Marauders were not born today. It's about something else. Read The Great Temptation, one of the chapters of the book I mentioned:
            http://qoo.by/3Bwl
      2. +2
        14 January 2018 20: 23
        Quote: Long in stock.
        so that’s exactly what’s the matter, they’ve condemned, they put things in order. But they don’t ...

        so the fact is that the “trophy case” was used to displace the objectionable. For example G.K. Zhukov was not touched for a long time, and when it became necessary, he was immediately reminded of junk cars.
        1. +1
          14 January 2018 21: 20
          Quote: verner1967
          Quote: Long in stock.
          so that’s exactly what’s the matter, they’ve condemned, they put things in order. But they don’t ...

          so the fact is that the “trophy case” was used to displace the objectionable. For example G.K. Zhukov was not touched for a long time, and when it became necessary, he was immediately reminded of junk cars.

          Not quite so - "objectionable." I would say "dangerous." The fact is that the Best Friend of Athletes was terrified of charismatic personalities. And then, a whole galaxy of strong, proactive, able to make decisions in a difficult situation, enjoying the confidence of the people, returned from the front. At one time, he managed to destroy the old guard, but Georgy Konstantinovich — Marshal of the Soviet Union, three times Hero, etc., etc. simply could not be turned into an enemy of the people. Today, Zhukov is credited with a bunch of flaws and mistakes, and then, he was practically infallible. But infallible had the right to be only one. And there are spots in the sun. The main thing is to find. The order was given. So they found ...
          1. +1
            14 January 2018 22: 05
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Not quite so - "objectionable." I would say "dangerous."

            in this context, it is one and the same. )))
  3. +3
    14 January 2018 08: 21
    Well, why not reflect on the behavior of soldiers and officers of the Anglo-American troops?
    ... It's taboo and untouchable ... laughing White and puffy ... smile Probably no one has yet calculated how many cultural values ​​the Angles, French, Americans took out during the wars, what were and what are going on now ..
    1. +2
      14 January 2018 10: 07
      Europeans rose precisely due to the robbery of the whole world. Especially the British succeeded in this. Few people know that on the crown of the British queen is the Kohinur diamond, which was taken from the Indian people, and on the scepter of the British monarch the largest diamond in the world Cullinan, mined in South Africa - the British colony. The British dynasty has accumulated many other treasures over 5 centuries of robbery around the world. So it’s just funny to read the Forbes list, where all sorts of Gates or Mexican oligarchs take first place. Compared to the British dynasty, they are miserable rogues.
      1. +4
        14 January 2018 11: 32
        The queen is not a billionaire. She owns approximately 550 million pounds ($ 650 million)
        She owns Crown Property. Income is declared. Pays taxes like everyone else.
        Most of the wealth of the dynasty (palaces, lands) was nationalized by the Laborites in the 50s.
  4. Alf
    +2
    14 January 2018 10: 42
    The most interesting thing is that the robbery of the Allies was not considered out of the ordinary. Even in the series, the Brothers in Arms showed how the paratroopers from the 101st, entering the town, rushed to rob him.
    1. +4
      14 January 2018 11: 39
      these are the European values ​​of Vasily ... this is how a cultural person should behave.
      1. Alf
        0
        14 January 2018 21: 37
        Quote: long in stock.
        these are the European values ​​of Vasily ... this is how a cultural person should behave.

        Yes, I do not argue. What about cultural people and us-
        Zillions - you. We - the darkness and darkness and darkness.
        Try, fight with us!
        Yes, we are Scythians! Yes, Asians - we,
        With slanted and greedy eyes!

        For you - centuries, for us - a single hour.
        We are like obedient slaves
        Holding a shield between two hostile races
        Mongols and Europe!

        Century, century your old horn forged
        And drowned out thunder, avalanches,
        And a wild fairy tale was a failure for you
        And Lisbon, and Messina!

        You looked east for hundreds of years
        Digging and melting our pearls
        And you, mocking, counted only the term,
        When to train cannon vents!

        Here - the time has come. Wings are beating trouble
        And every day resentment multiplies,
        And the day will come - there will be no trace
        From your Paestums, maybe!

        Oh, the old world! Until you perish,
        While you languish with sweet flour,
        Stop, wise as Oedipus,
        Before the Sphinx with an ancient mystery!

        Russia - Sphinx. Rejoicing and mourning
        And bleeding black blood,
        She looks, looks, looks at you.
        And with hatred, and with love! ...

        Yes, to love as much as our blood loves,
        None of you have loved for a long time!

        Forgot you, that in the world there is love,
        Which burns and kills!

        We love everything - and the heat of cold numbers,
        And the gift of divine visions,
        Everything is clear to us - and a sharp Gallic meaning,
        And the gloomy German genius ...

        We remember everything - hell streets of Paris,
        And the Venetian coolness,
        Lemon groves are a distant fragrance,
        And Cologne smoky bulks ...

        We love flesh - and its taste, and color,
        And the stuffy, mortal flesh smell ...
        Guilty if we crack your skeleton
        In the heavy, gentle paws?

        We used to get used to the bridle
        Playing horses zealous,
        Breaking horses with heavy sacra
        And pacify the slaves of the obstinate ...

        Come to us! From the horrors of war
        Come in peace hugs!
        Before it's too late - the old sword in the sheath,
        Comrades! We will become - brothers!

        And if not - we have nothing to lose,
        And we are not above treachery!
        Century, centuries you will be curse
        Sick later offspring!

        We are wide in the wilds and forests
        Before Europe, prigozhey
        Let's part! We will turn to you
        His Asian mug!

        Go all, go to the Urals!
        We clear the place of battle
        Steel machines, where the integral breathes,
        With the Mongolian wild horde!

        But we ourselves are no longer a shield to you,
        From now on, we will not enter the battle ourselves,
        We'll see how the mortal battle is boiling,
        With his narrow eyes.

        We will not move when the ferocious Hun
        In the pockets of corpses will fumble,
        Burn the city, and drive the herd into the church,
        And fry white brothers meat! ...

        For the last time - come to your senses, old world!
        On the fraternal feast of work and peace,
        The last time for a bright fraternal feast
        Cries the barbaric lyre!
  5. +1
    14 January 2018 14: 52
    There is a book

    According to the published data of the Main Trophy Administration, about 400 thousand railway wagons were exported from Germany to the USSR, including 72 thousand wagons of building materials, 2885 plants, 96 power plants, 340 thousand machine tools, 200 thousand electric motors, 1 million 335 thousand livestock, 2,3 million tons of grain, 1 million tons of potatoes and vegetables, 0,5 million tons of fat and sugar, 20 million liters of alcohol, 1600 tons of tobacco. Telescopes from the Humboldt University Astronomical Observatory and the Berlin Underground cars were taken to the USSR.
    According to official figures, 60 thousand pianos, 460 thousand radio sets, 190 thousand carpets, 940 thousand pieces of furniture, 265 thousand wall and table clocks were exported from Germany.

    The capture of trophies was legalized by the order of Stalin from 9 on June 1945. The soldiers were allowed to send the regulated number of parcels plus everything that they could carry on themselves during demobilization. Generals were given free of charge by car, officers by motorcycle or bicycle. Carpets, furs, sets, cameras were sold to officers at low prices, and cars were sold to colonels.

    They brought from Germany ... everything! I note that the USSR received reparations not only from the eastern zone of Germany. About three hundred plants were planned to be transferred from the western zones to the USSR and Poland. And although due to the outbreak of the Cold War, the Western occupation authorities in every possible way prevented this, but of the 39 especially important factories located in the western zone of occupation and intended for reparations to the Soviet Union, thirty were completely dismantled by March 1948.
    Plants producing toxic substances in the Soviet zone of occupation were completely destroyed, but their equipment was taken out.

    According to German technology, in the USSR began the production of a number of synthetic materials that we had not previously produced. Among them are Naiolan, Perlon, artificial silk that was superior in quality to natural silk, Opponala, synthetic rubber substitutes and many other plastics.

    It is curious that not only the military and industry were engaged in the export of equipment and entire enterprises, but also everyone who was not lazy. So, 30 non-industrial ministries in their interests exported 16% of the total number of dismantled facilities. In total, the military and industry exported 202 enterprises, various publishing houses - 64, ministries of the interior - 55 and health care - 26, higher educational institutions - 23, Academy of Sciences - 16, Ministry of Education of the RSFSR - 11, AUCCTU - 7, State Committee for Arts - 2 The State Committee for Culture and the State Security Committee were taken out of the facility and one facility.

    The Arts Committee from the suburbs of Berlin Babelsberg removed a record factory with a total weight of 406 tons. The USSR Academy of Sciences dismantled the astronomical observatory of the University. Humboldt, equipment from the University of Greifswald, exported 80 tons in six document cars from the Reichs archive located in Potsdam. 328 tons of books were seized from the castle library in the city of Gotha and sent to the USSR in 23 cars. The administration of the Palace of Soviets, which was then being built in Moscow, exported a large number of various furniture from Berlin. The State Committee for Physical Culture and Sports instructed its teams to dismantle the swimming pools. The Lenin Library also sent its workers to Germany to collect and transport books and manuscripts to the USSR. Etc.
    1. +1
      14 January 2018 14: 53
      The seizure of values ​​from the defeated was the legal right of the winner. Let those who wish and call it robbery, but the situation does not change from this.
      1. 0
        14 January 2018 15: 53
        oh well .. why is this the authorities were silent about the indemnities until 1990 ... something I knew by that time not being one of the celestials .. a specific question, but then I was not particularly interested in this topic .. who wanted I knew.
        1. +1
          14 January 2018 16: 36
          Everything is simple. Previously, everyone knew everything, but no official 45 data was reported for years. In 1990, the Main Trophy Directorate of the USSR published documents testifying to the volumes of exported valuables.
          1. 0
            16 January 2018 23: 58
            Enough to invent non-existent controls. Uh, I do not like your nationality for lying.
  6. +1
    14 January 2018 14: 53
    EMNIP, in the world there are about 400 thousand more or less valuable samurai swords. Of these, about 75% are by no means in Japan, but in the United States. Guess how and when they got there laughing
    1. +1
      14 January 2018 15: 28
      Jewish scrolls are also not in Israel, but in the Russian Federation. Guess how and when they got there. laughing
      1. +1
        14 January 2018 15: 42
        Russia like Israel did not win? And there seemed to be no indemnities.
        1. 0
          14 January 2018 15: 45
          Quote: Curious
          Russia like Israel did not win? And there seemed to be no indemnities.

          Sozh-bo th won. laughing hi
    2. 0
      14 January 2018 22: 55
      this is where there are so many samurai to take .. by the way the question is, why the Japanese so sensitive questions of the preservation of antiquity do not collect samurai swords? from a tsuba from them many who collect and blades themselves, no ..
      1. 0
        14 January 2018 23: 15
        Under one of Shpakovsky's articles on samurai swords, this question was discussed.
  7. 0
    14 January 2018 18: 59
    Until recently, my family kept a whole trophy set for men's hygiene - a dangerous razor in a case, a comb, a brush, a toothbrush and a manual hair clipper. However, the grandfather himself exchanged this good for something, and someone else communized.
  8. 0
    15 January 2018 13: 28
    Meanwhile, the "trophy" theme is now actively used for propaganda anti-Russian purposes. It is enough to recall the infamous famous photograph in which a Soviet soldier and a German are pulling a bicycle in different directions.

    The author should clarify that this photo is very doubtful and is propaganda and staged. It has already been discussed and exposed at various resources (there are many links, it is enough to google it). if our soldiers in defeated Germany were really engaged in what Western propaganda (robberies, violence, mass killings, etc.) ascribes to them now, then the evidence of this in the form of photographs would probably be in abundance. For example, there are enough photos and film documents of Nazi atrocities in the occupied territory of the USSR, including those made by the executioners themselves. However, we are presented with evidence as the only dubious photo of the "terrible crime."
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      15 January 2018 16: 51
      "then evidence of this in the form of photographs would probably be in abundance" ////

      Whose photos? If the Germans took such a picture, then
      they would be shot on the spot by soldiers.
      If the soldiers took pictures, they would be arrested for this by SMERSH.
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        15 January 2018 17: 50
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Whose photos? If the Germans took such a picture, then
        they would be shot on the spot by soldiers.
        If the soldiers took pictures, they would be arrested for this by SMERSH.

        This was photographed by our allies, on their territory, it is said, the photo is staged.

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