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How 99 people served 8 "Maximov"

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Machine gun "Maxim" from childhood is familiar to anyone interested in military history. Who does not remember film shots or photographs in which two fighters lying on a machine gun are firing? One - the first number shoots, the other - the second number supports the cartridge belt with his hands in the correct position.

At the same time, not everyone knows that once the Maxim machine gun looked more like an artillery gun.
The Killing Machine, created by Hayrem Stevens Maxim, a British gunsmith of American origin, was tested in Russia in 1887. The then “Maxim” was created under the Berdan 10,67-mm cartridge with black powder. Even Emperor Alexander III shot from it. After testing, representatives of the Russian military department ordered Maxim 12 machine guns of the 1885 model of the year under the 10,67-mm cartridge of the Berdan rifle.

Subsequently, the Berdan rifle was removed from service, and the Maxim machine guns were converted to the 7,62-mm cartridge of the Russian Mosin rifle.

In 1901, the 7,62-mm Maxim machine gun on an English-style wheeled carriage was adopted by the ground forces. The machine gun (the mass of which on a heavy carriage with large wheels and a large armored mass was 244 kg) was attributed to the artillery. Accordingly, the machine gun units were originally called batteries.

Then in the infantry regiments appear machine-gun companies and teams. The “riding” machine gun “Maxim” on a single-horse-drawn field wheeled gun carriage really looked more like a gun than the machine gun we used to. Even the extremely cumbersome and extremely noticeable “Maxims” on the field wheel carriage (sometimes machine guns were used on a tripod) proved to be extremely formidable weapons during the Russo-Japanese War 1904-1905's.

Great losses were inflicted on the Japanese by Russian machine guns under Bensio and in repelling the assaults of Port Arthur.

Russian machine-gunners proved themselves in the battles for the main Liaoyan position 20 – 21 in August 1904, causing great damage to the attacking Japanese. And this is despite the fact that the total number of machine guns in the Army in Action was not in the thousands or even hundreds, but in dozens.

It affects an extremely large number of soldiers serving machine guns. According to the state approved by 6 in May 1910, the machine-gun team was directly part of the regiment and was subordinate to its commander, but could be given to the battalions and even companies in whole or in parts. In it were the commander of the state, 3 chief officer - one older and two younger, 1 sergeant major, 2 platoon sergeant, 2 machine gun sergeant, storekeeper 1, 6 machinegun junior non-commissioned officers, corporals 8-gunners; 8 spare gunners, 24 carrier of cartridges, 16 soldiers with machine gun gigs, 8 riders for machine gun gigs, 8 riders for cartridge gigs, 3 soldiers for clockwork horses, 2 cook, 2 workers in the kitchen; 4 batman.

Thus, the regular strength of the machine-gun team was 99 people. All this hundred without one served only eight machine guns. What would the machine gunners of subsequent eras say about such a relationship?
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  1. bouncyhunter
    bouncyhunter 13 January 2018 09: 08 New
    11
    Thanks to the author for a brief excursion into history. hi
    1. Vard
      Vard 13 January 2018 09: 45 New
      +5
      And when he ... Machine gun ... put on a cart ... It turned out a mobile weapon. Actual still .... And what was the good of Maxim's machine gun ... The barrel did not overheat ...
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 13 January 2018 09: 46 New
        +7
        There were different cases, including with overheating of the trunk. yes
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 13 January 2018 11: 20 New
          +8
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          There were different cases, including with overheating of the trunk.

          The problem with barrel overheating was solved only in Maxim's bunker installation
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 13 January 2018 11: 27 New
            +6
            hi Two hoses for cooling the barrel, and the third one to the handles? what
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 13 January 2018 11: 38 New
              +3
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Two hoses for cooling the barrel, and the third one to the handles?

              Machine gun body cooling. At least that's what UR officers told us. In our city and around the city many bunkers have been built. The one that stood on the territory of our enterprise had installations under Maxim machine guns.
            2. igordok
              igordok 13 January 2018 12: 30 New
              +9
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Two hoses for cooling the barrel, and the third one to the handles?

              Two hoses on the left, this is the removal of powder gases, partly air cooling. The two hoses on the right are water cooling. In this figure, the lower water cooling hose is poorly distinguishable, but in the color drawing, it is clearly visible.
              1. jjj
                jjj 13 January 2018 14: 22 New
                +4
                By the way, with the hoses was the British brother "Maxim". So such a cooling system did not allow him to shoot upward at a large angle. And we have a quad system used in air defense
                Machine gun "Vickers"
                1. igordok
                  igordok 13 January 2018 14: 46 New
                  +5
                  Quote: jjj
                  So such a cooling system did not allow him to shoot upward at a large angle.

                  This is not for cooling, it is a steam outlet for collecting (condensing) water. At the most inopportune moment, water may run out. So they made such an inconvenience.
                  A pair of hoses is required for the cooling system.
                  1. hohol95
                    hohol95 13 January 2018 23: 02 New
                    +1
                    In Russia and the USSR, they didn’t bother with such things!
                    And they made a wide neck to fill the casing not only with water but also with snow and ice!

                    And then there was an episode in the story about revolutionary sailors who fought with Kolchakites in winter - a sailor asks if the water was heated for machine guns, the water went only for machine guns! Wounded from thirst, they ate snow !!!
                    1. serg.shishkov2015
                      serg.shishkov2015 15 January 2018 06: 03 New
                      +4
                      but guessed to do it only after the Finnish!
                    2. chingachguc
                      chingachguc 20 March 2018 16: 19 New
                      0
                      war veterans knew another way ... piss over there
                      1. hohol95
                        hohol95 20 March 2018 16: 28 New
                        0
                        Mel Gibson (as Lt. Col. Hal Moore) COOLED the mortars in the movie "We Were Soldiers" in this way.
                        I had to! In winter, this warmed up the weapon. In the summer it cooled.
                2. hohol95
                  hohol95 13 January 2018 22: 57 New
                  +1

                  Such hoses didn’t stop the Finns from firing at air targets!
                3. hohol95
                  hohol95 14 January 2018 18: 11 New
                  +3

                  Hanoi air defense position. Vietnam, 1971
      2. svp67
        svp67 13 January 2018 09: 58 New
        17
        Quote: Vard
        Machine gun ... put on a cart ... It turned out a mobile weapon.

        Do not overestimate the cart, it has a lot of shortcomings that it was possible to partially solve only by installing a machine gun on a motorcycle ...
        1. Cat
          Cat 13 January 2018 13: 12 New
          +8

          Do not overestimate a motorcycle with a machine gun, best of all - a wedge or tank!
          1. serg.shishkov2015
            serg.shishkov2015 15 January 2018 09: 23 New
            0
            in fact, an armored car and a wedge are a self-propelled machine gun, and even with armor, and if there is an amphibious option, your beauty
        2. CTABEP
          CTABEP 13 January 2018 18: 12 New
          +3
          A tachanka is just a means of moving a machine gun. In a battle against an equal opponent, dashing fire raids from her are very similar to suicide. The machine gun must be delivered to the position, camouflaged (which means the shields on Maxim were clearly in the way), fire back and, if necessary, change the position to the spare one.
      3. Alf
        Alf 13 January 2018 19: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: Vard
        The trunk did not overheat ...

        While there was water in the radiator.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 14 January 2018 08: 39 New
      +4
      My uncle, immediately after completing 10 classes in 1941, was taken to Arimia, somewhere near Krasnoyarsk. Then he liberated Prague and took Berlin. There is his photo, and on the back side with his hand it says that he studied at the "Maxim". They dragged a machine gun together, one part weighing 18 kg, the other at 14. They both served it and fired from it. Something like this. hi
  2. svp67
    svp67 13 January 2018 09: 51 New
    +9
    All this hundred without one served only eight machine guns.
    No served ... of the 99 people
    directly fussed with machine guns
    2 machine-gun non-commissioned officers, 6 junior machine-gun non-commissioned officers, 8 corporal gunners; 8 spare gunners, 24 cartridges, 8 sled to machine-gun gigs, 8 sled to cartridge gigs,
    total 64 people ...
    1. your1970
      your1970 15 January 2018 12: 21 New
      +1
      great-grandfather (a dashing person!) was a machine gunner in WWI, officially earned 3 (but the family always believed that 4) St. George's Crosses, including one for covering the retreat of the unit, the second for breaking out of the encirclement with weapons, the third for a large number of the destroyed enemy battle, the fourth for saving the officer ...
      1. your1970
        your1970 15 January 2018 13: 04 New
        +1
        From the provision of St. George's Crosses (directly machine guns)
        The second branch. About what feats on the battlefield are awarded the St. George Cross
        67. Innumerable and diverse military prowess of the victorious Russian army; therefore, in order to distinguish excellent feats worthy of being awarded the St. George Cross from ordinary ones, and to the bosses, upon honoring him, give examples in the manual that include signs of truly outstanding differences, according to the exact meaning of which or with respect to which they are obliged to decide their decisions, the following is determined :
        Worthy of rewarding the St. George Cross:
        I. For all kinds of weapons in general.-
        8) Who, leading his subordinates or comrades, will lead them by the example of his personal courage and save them captured by the enemy, or left behind in the mind of the enemy gun, machine guns or charging case.
        9) Who, behind the decline of officers, captivating the lower ranks with an example of personal courage, captures or destroys an enemy gun or machine gun, or repel an enemy bursting into a battery.
        12) Who, on their own initiative, behind the loss of officers, in a point-blank battle, put forward a machine gun at a dangerously close distance and its action will support the attack or defense.
        13) Who, after the loss of officers and left without infantry cover, the action of machine guns aimed at point blank range will repulse the nearest enemy attack, which threatened a close capture of machine guns.
        by artillery
        37) Who beats an enemy gun with a shot or machine gun and thereby cease the effect thereof.
        engineering
        39) Who is in battle when attacking an enemy or defending his position, with a clear danger to life, leading a team of workers or in person: a) he will perform important work to adapt the defense to a strong point; b) correct damage in our fortification, in the existence of which the fortification loses its ability to defend itself; at) adapt an important place to the machine gun or gun;
        40) Who during a siege of a fortress or fortification, with a clear danger to life, leading a team of workers or personally, will perform important work with a significant gain in time: a) to adapt the place to the staging of a gun or machine gun in the area of ​​prior work;
        41) Who, when defending a fortress or fortification, with a clear danger to life, leading a team of workers or in person, will perform important work with a significant gain in time: a) when removing counter-requests; b) to adapt the place to the staging of a gun or machine gun in the area of ​​counter-inquiry works;
  3. serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 13 January 2018 11: 08 New
    +2
    in the Rodina magazine I found the technical characteristics of the machine-gun cart of arr. it’s necessary to carry all this
  4. Amurets
    Amurets 13 January 2018 11: 14 New
    +6
    Probably now few people know about what V.A. Degtyarev, during the service, trained machine gunners. Here is how G. Nogaev writes about this. Head of the weapons range at the Officers' School, the mighty bearded colonel
    Filatov, called Degtyarev to him and instructed him to train military gunsmiths.
    Degtyarev was embarrassed by such a task, but the order was signed, and he set to work.
    Teaching army gunsmiths how to repair a machine gun, he simultaneously taught them
    making the most fragile and necessary parts ...
    The training of military gunsmiths was just completed, as Filatov received
    task - to teach a group of corporal gunners to shoot with a machine gun ..... German Nogaev. "Russian gunsmiths"
    1. serg.shishkov2015
      serg.shishkov2015 16 January 2018 06: 06 New
      +2
      interesting book, caught 30 years ago in a flea market
  5. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 13 January 2018 11: 43 New
    +3
    It is necessary to pour oil on the garden in the village where my great-grandfather dug something up)))
  6. zxc15682
    zxc15682 13 January 2018 11: 56 New
    +6
    At stake put Nicholas 2 and his commanders for such a war.
  7. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 13 January 2018 12: 17 New
    +3
    "What would the machine gunners of subsequent eras say about this ratio?"

    I don’t remember exactly what composition of the machine gun calculation father spoke of, but consider for yourself. The commander, 1- number, 2-nd number, 1 person carries a machine gun, 1-armored plate, 1-machine, 2 or 3-water, 2 or 3-ammunition .... This is back in the 39th.
    A glorious history with a machine gun, but depended heavily on water. Without water, "spit" lead in front of him. And the rate of fire is not high.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 13 January 2018 12: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      A glorious history with a machine gun, but depended heavily on water. Without water, "spit" lead in front of him. And the rate of fire is not high.

      I agree. The story is glorious. There are many shortcomings, which is also correct. But the main drawback, water cooling, is a great advantage for stationary installations in fortresses before and during the WWII and in the fortified areas after the WWII and to this day in the pillbox installations of fortified areas along the Soviet-Chinese border until their disarmament. Here is the mural exhibit of the Annunciation Museum. In the cover of this half-capier, there were several machine-gun pillboxes armed with Maxims.
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 13 January 2018 13: 42 New
        +6
        Quote: Amurets
        There are many shortcomings, also right

        Someday, after a hundred years, the descendants will talk about primitive things that we admire. wink Then maxim was perfection.
        Quote: 27091965i
        There was also a lightweight model.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 13 January 2018 12: 53 New
      +4
      As a child, he read the book "Warrior Happiness" by Chudakova Valentina. There about "spitting" and cooling is well written. If you haven’t read it, I strongly advise you to read it. In the internet there.
    3. 27091965
      27091965 13 January 2018 13: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      A glorious history with a machine gun, but depended heavily on water. Without water, "spit" lead in front of him. And the rate of fire is not high.


      There was also a lightweight model.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 13 January 2018 14: 09 New
        +8
        Quote: 27091965i
        There was also a lightweight model.

        Yes, not one. From the Soviet ones - the air gun of the Nadashkevich PV and the experienced and low-series Maxim-Tokarev, both air-cooled models. http://zonwar.ru/pulemet/Maxim_MT.html

        light machine gun MaxM-Tokarev
        1. hohol95
          hohol95 13 January 2018 22: 54 New
          +1
          2500 pieces - not a small series! He fought in Spain and China.
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 14 January 2018 00: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: hohol95
            2500 pieces - not a small series!

            Perhaps not small, but I compared the production of MT with the production of that easel Maxim, during the WWII Russian industry produced 27 machine guns for the army (571 units in the second half of 828, 1914 units in 4, 251 units. in 1915, 11 pcs. - in 072), and more than 1916 manual DP and its modifications.
            1. hohol95
              hohol95 14 January 2018 13: 46 New
              +1
              For the first Soviet light machine gun is quite an acceptable amount! They could have entered the WWII according to the “German technology” (MG-08/15/18) and instead of trying to put the Madsen into service, it might have been necessary to make a similarity to MT another year since 1915-1916.
              1. Amurets
                Amurets 14 January 2018 14: 54 New
                0
                Quote: hohol95
                For the first Soviet light machine gun is quite an acceptable amount!

                Maybe. I somehow did not ask this question, maybe "The eye is blurry," not only from me, but also from V.G. Fedorova. I remember how in his book "In Search of Weapons" he wrote about the presence of a large number of light machine guns in the first line of defense on the Allied front. I agree here the manual version of Maxim would be very useful. The only question is where to organize production?
                Quote: hohol95
                and instead of trying to put into service "Madsenov"
                With the Madsens, too, not everything is clear. Still, the construction of the plant in Kovrov was conducted by the Belgian concessionaires. In the ownership of Russia he was nationalized after the revolution. So I do not want to be a fortuneteller, where to organize its production, but such a machine gun was needed.
                1. hohol95
                  hohol95 14 January 2018 15: 49 New
                  +1
                  That's just neither Tula nor Sestroretsky weapons factories could produce "Madsen"! A similarity MT could produce and Tula - "Maxims" were produced there for the Russian Imperial Army !!! I just had to expand the factory! And it was necessary to build a new weapons and other defense plants earlier - a gross mistake was made - they refused to develop new types of weapons and relied on foreign purchases! And abroad showed a FICO - not enough !!! Lend-Lisa was not there then ...
                  General Belyaev, Assistant Secretary of War on August 22, 1915 wrote: “One of the issues that have not received any satisfactory resolution to date is the provision of machine guns to parts of the troops. When the enemy has not only regiments, but also companies equipped with machine guns - the number of machine guns in the infantry of our army is not enough, but in the cavalry generally insignificant ... Spare battalions have absolutely no machine guns. Therefore, for the training of machine gunners, it was necessary to form a machine-gun spare regiment, but even now it is not equipped with the necessary number of machine guns. ” Machine guns, like many other types of weapons, had to be massively purchased abroad. However, even here, according to Belyaev, "significant difficulties were encountered."

                  On 1 February 1916, three Russian fronts had about 4,4 millions of fighters and the following number of machine guns: Northern - 132 of the Colt machine gun, 1243 of the Maxim machine gun, 37 of captured machine guns and Gochks 2 machine gun; Western - 204 machine gun "Colt", 2411 machine guns "Maxim", 234 captured machine guns; Southwestern - 271 machine gun "Colt", 1724 machine gun "Maxim", 604 captured machine guns. Guns “Hotchkiss” on the Western and South-Western fronts were absent.

                  On 1, January 1917 of the year on the fronts was: Northern - 355 machine guns "Colt", 2553 machine gun "Maxim", 70 captured machine guns and 162 machine gun "Madsen"; West - 690 machine guns "Colt", 9660 machine guns "Maxim", 175 captured machine guns and 40 machine guns "Madsen"; Southwestern and Romanian - 687 machine guns "Colt", 4342 machine gun "Maxim", 99 captured machine guns, 133 machine guns "Madsen".
                  1 March 1917 of the year on four fronts were: 2433 machine guns "Colt" (6732 staff), 10793 machine guns "Maxim" (with 19032 staff), 1451 trophy machine gun. Note that in the Russian army during the war, the Colt machine gun was the second after the Maxim, the number of teams was slightly lower than the number of Maxim’s teams.

                  In total, three machine-gun systems (Vickers, Maxim, Colt) and three systems of light machine guns (Hotchkiss, Shosh, Lewis) were ordered abroad. The peak of the supply of foreign machine guns fell on November 1916 of the year - 2,2 thousand systems. Until the middle of 1917, deliveries were made as follows: in 1914, 828 domestic machine guns and 0 from allies; in 1915, 4251 and 500, respectively; in the 1916 year - 11072 and 628; in the 1917 year - 11420 and 7462. Total 27571 domestic machine guns and 8590 from allies.
                  1. Amurets
                    Amurets 15 January 2018 00: 40 New
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                    [quote = hohol95] But only neither Tula nor Sestroretsky weapons factories could produce Madsen! [/ quote]
                    It is difficult to disagree with you, but you forgot a few more problems: 1) the lack of rifles, so all three factories were loaded with production and had not only machine guns, but also rifles. It follows
                    2) the diversification of only the weapons that were purchased abroad. "The cessation of the production of Fedorov assault rifles was connected with the decision taken in 1924 to design and produce new models only for the domestic 7,62-mm cartridge model 1908, since the supply of Red Army cartridges were associated with great difficulties: for the Maxim magazine rifle and machine gun, 7,62 mm caliber cartridges were required, for the English machine gun - 7,71 mm, for the French machine gun - 8 mm, and for the Fedorov machine guns - 6,5 mm Japanese cartridge . " Bolotin. Soviet small arms. "
                    and a number of problems. And here you are right, the construction of the Kovrov plant was started too late.
                    [quote = hohol95] But only neither Tula nor Sestroretsky weapons factories could produce Madsen! A similarity MT could produce and Tula - "Maxims" were produced there for the Russian Imperial Army !!! I just had to expand the factory! But it was necessary to build a new weapons and other defense plants earlier. It follows that there was nowhere to develop new types of weapons and ammunition.
        2. serg.shishkov2015
          serg.shishkov2015 15 January 2018 06: 31 New
          +1
          MT-25 - about 2,5 thousand released, delivered to Spain
  8. Sasha75
    Sasha75 13 January 2018 13: 37 New
    +2
    Nothing strange. The weight of the maxim of that time was heavy. Yes, and in the Great Patriotic Cart to the machine gun gave and carriers of zip ammunition interchangeable trunks again, more than one liter of water. Decent weight.
  9. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 13 January 2018 14: 50 New
    +3
    The machine gun is serviced by the head of the machine gun and six fighters: an observer, a range finder, a gunner, a gunner’s assistant, two cartridge carriers, and a riding one. Each machine gunner must be able to fulfill the duties of any fighter machine gun crew in case you have to replace him in battle. The gunner is replaced by the gunner [1] [4].
    - Chapter 12. Service machine gun. Guide for infantry fighter. Military Training Directorate

    During the Second World War, the calculation of the machine gun consisted of 7 people, also a lot.
    1. CTABEP
      CTABEP 13 January 2018 18: 15 New
      +3
      By the way, these states have 7-8 people per machine gun, kmk is much more realistic than the current, when the 12,7mm "Cliff" calculation is 2-3 people.
    2. VladGashek
      VladGashek 13 January 2018 18: 48 New
      +3
      My father graduated from the training machine gun battalion of the 2nd Tyumen Infantry School in March 1943. He said that Maxim's machine gun crew consisted of 5 people. The calculation relied gig with sledding. There were 6 machine guns in the machine-gun platoon (part of the battalion machine-gun company). But in the battles of the Second World War, as a rule, 3, rarely 4 people were included in the calculation. The gunner always wore the body of a machine gun, and the second number was a machine tool and machine gun belt. Everything else was dragged by other fighters. However, as his father said, there was almost never a full-time staff. The huge losses of machine guns and machine gunners are to blame.
      1. Alf
        Alf 13 January 2018 19: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: Vladgashek
        Everything else was dragged by other fighters.

        This is actually normal practice. For example, in the state for Bren attached BC in 1000 rounds. Of these, 240 were carried by a machine gunner and an assistant, and the remaining 760 were carried by the squad in the order of the total load. Yes, and the Hans had similar. The video of the Germans entering Paris shows how several soldiers, never machine gunners, carried boxes of cartridges.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 14 January 2018 15: 15 New
          +1
          The Germans have a separate story, their machine gun was the main striking force of the infantry squad, and all tactics of the squad were built around the machine gun. The remaining fighters were an auxiliary force.
      2. moskowit
        moskowit 14 January 2018 19: 08 New
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        The huge losses of machine guns and machine gunners are to blame.

        The silhouette was too high, it showed up very quickly, and it was difficult to change the position. Almost 64 kg. weighed ....
        1. hohol95
          hohol95 14 January 2018 20: 24 New
          +2
          Easel machine gun Vickers
          Weight, kg: 18.1 (body), 35.4 (with a machine) = 53,5 kg
          Not much easier.
      3. hohol95
        hohol95 17 January 2018 18: 01 New
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        Calculation for carrying a machine gun.
        1. serg.shishkov2015
          serg.shishkov2015 18 January 2018 07: 34 New
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          was in a special issue of the magazine Arms All about Maxim machine guns, the people's militia, a training march-throw, And (attention!) fighters without personal weapons, equipment, material bags and a machine gun in the photo no more than 4 tapes
  10. tchoni
    tchoni 14 January 2018 12: 56 New
    +1
    Thus, the regular strength of the machine-gun team was 99 people. All this hundred without one served only eight machine guns. What would the machine gunners of subsequent eras say about such a relationship?
    Anic would not say. More precisely, nothing has changed. Now in the rifle compartment the same one machine gun. Just the right departments then were few.
    1. Michael HORNET
      Michael HORNET 27 January 2018 18: 38 New
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      So a completely normal distribution, taking into account the mass of the machine gun and its then “weight” in hostilities. There were a lot of people, there were a lot of cartridges too - since there were enough targets on the battlefield, they still did not know that it was useless to run on a machine gun), but in the course of the WWII they comprehended this. World War I - the finest hour of machine guns. By the way, they were lacking in all participating countries. War began to win industry and logistics. This is well stated in the article on weight lifting.
  11. serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 15 January 2018 06: 44 New
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    tachanka arr, 1926, - calculation of 3 people,, length without drawbar 2,9 m, width 1,38 m, total weight-976,45 kg, t, h, horse accessory and forage 47,6, auxiliary accessory 4,45, tools and spare parts 4,45, crew with things 245,4, speed up to 40 km / h, there were attempts to book, but the weight is too large
  12. Catfish
    Catfish 21 January 2018 01: 58 New
    +1
    The motorcycle with Maxim was completely destroyed. The PPSh on the steering wheel is particularly impressive. Where is he going to shoot somewhere, and even on the go? We have already removed the term papers on the T-55 as unnecessary. I tried on the T-54 to get at least something from the course of the SGMT and, of course, on the go - everything flies anywhere and in all directions smile . And on a motorcycle - from the realm of fiction in general. One thing is for sure, you cannot kill creative thought.
    1. serg.shishkov2015
      serg.shishkov2015 22 January 2018 08: 19 New
      0
      but it looks cool! the first time I saw this!
  13. vonWolfenstein
    vonWolfenstein 12 February 2018 10: 17 New
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    Maxim's machine guns were used back in the 80s in VOKhRe. Rather, they were stored in case of escort of especially important cargoes in case of war or during mass riots.