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The West loves Russia very much. Proof by the method of the Central Bank

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The Central Bank of Russia has published a report on its location in the form of gold and foreign exchange reserves — that same national wealth (not to be confused with the well-known giant company), which provides the main safety cushion for the Russian economy and, above all, for the Russian banking system. Someone after the holidays might well have thought that the situation in terms of storing Russian reserves has changed dramatically - the elections are all the same - with the placement of billions in funds the state needs to be extremely careful ... However, such people will have to be immediately disappointed. The report shows that nothing fundamentally has changed in investments, and their main part is still a feed for the American cut paper, as a result for the Western financial system.


Statistics of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation for the year 2017-th is as follows:

The assets of the Bank of Russia at the moment amount to almost 418 billion dollars. It is about assets not only in foreign currency and in gold, but also in government securities. Over 2017, these assets grew by almost 4%.

On the placement of these assets.

To begin with, it is worthwhile to present data on what volumes of reserves the Central Bank “holds” in Russia itself. Under the conditions of political sanctions and other pressure on the Russian Federation, it would have been possible for some economic nonsense (including your humble servant) to think that it would be better to transfer the lion's share of assets away from sin to relatives of the “bins”. But that is why most Russians and economic naughties, because with our meager little minds, it is difficult to understand the logic of the smart fellows who claim from the stands about the damned foreign russophobes imperialists who pinch Russia everywhere and at the same time persistently continue to sponsor the economy namely “Russophobes imperialists”. Well, that kind of logic ...

In Russia, the Bank of Russia holds (attention!) 7,2% of assets for "money" and securities, not counting gold. 7 as much as 2 percent. The direct gold in the Central Bank’s vault is 16,1%. This is worth about 67,3 billion dollars.

The West loves Russia very much. Proof by the method of the Central Bank


And where does the Bank of Russia hold more reserves, if not in Russia? Well, it just so happened that the largest percentage of all the funds the Central Bank placed, correctly, with our beloved partners - in the United States of America. The share is more than significant - 27,2%. At the same time, the internal Russian indicator in 7,2% is only the fourth. That is, our (or) Central Bank trusts more than the banks of at least two more countries of the world. This is France, where 12,5% of Russian assets are located, as well as Germany (11,7%). On the "three" goes 51,4%, and this is under 215 billion dollars.

In general, everything is good, everything is good ... They denounced foreign adversaries, denounced them, denounced them, and now they can increase their investments in their economies. Economically - everything is honed and verified, and politically ... so who asks ... slaves, then ... We will talk in the kitchen, and that's enough.

This is a strategy, friends, but because we have the main preceptors 90-x go almost in the main heroes of Russia. Why are they going there? They carry them in their hands: grants, subsidies, all that ... This ordinary entrepreneur can easily be strangled even by fire supervision, even by a sanitary epidemiological station, and a big business is nizzia - there, again, is a strategy.

Okay. Again we pass by - we go further.

6,4% of the reserves of the Central Bank (not much less than in Russia itself) are kept by the very “Englishwoman” who, as people tell in the well-known analytical Sunday program, is constantly shitting us. Apparently, 6,4% is a shit, but smaller. Perhaps just a little shit will ... on the head ...

By the way, they just said that we are very, very economically friendly with China. They also said that it was time, they say, to give up these damned dollars and euros in favor of the same Chinese yuan - well, sort of like strategic partners - this is how Moscow and Beijing officially position themselves. So ... And how much do you think the Central Bank decided to transfer its reserves into the Chinese national “strategically partner” currency? We try to guess from three attempts. If someone guessed, then this is definitely a bonus, and at least from the HSE ... And the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is investing in the yuan as much 0,1% reserves. Here it is diversified, so to speak. Here it is reoriented! ..

Of course, one can begin to pull head-on an analysis of the situation with statements in the style of “economic feasibility and economic laws dictate the correctness of the placement options for gold and foreign exchange reserves,” but any analysis (especially far-fetched) is broken about the reinforced concrete reality: Russia with whom? Central Bank with whom? Does the Central Bank of the Russian Federation have any guarantees that, in the event of a new stage of sanctions pressure, the “good uncle” overseas does not have the desire to “slightly freeze” billions of Russian assets of 150-200 Russian assets that are not found in the garbage?

By the way, the question (albeit crazy) is: what if there really is no guarantee, and increasing the assets of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation in the United States of America and Britain is a conscious strategy of “unknown persons” aimed at choosing the moment to cut off the oxygen of the Russian economy? They save, save, save, increase, increase, increase - and then - bang, and the “second shift”. Fie you, and as soon as such a head could come ...

And if we assume that the question is definitely delusional, then another question arises: the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is increasing its investments in the United States, knowing that no one will touch the assets under any circumstances? And from where only the Central Bank has such confidence ...

It was also thought: the multi-billion-dollar assets of Russia lie in the USA, Britain, France, Germany, and they lie without, thank God, frosts (I spit over my left shoulder and knock on wood), and here we are the United States, Britain, France and Germany — the very last words ... They love us, they help us, they keep our money, and we ... It remains to tear the remaining hair and repent, repent and once again repent for having doubted the depth and sincerity of the feeling of partnership.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 10 January 2018 07: 43
    24
    It has not yet been said that these investments are almost at zero percent ... in essence, this is a gift, free assistance, so to speak ...
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 10 January 2018 07: 53
      +8
      Quote: Vard
      It is not yet said that these investments are almost at zero percent ...

      not a fact, maybe under minus it’s about fifteen percent ...
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 10 January 2018 22: 12
        +7
        About such a business "partnership" of our Central Bank of the Russian Federation with Western banks, it’s even nauseous to read! How many years have we talked about this — the absence of financial guarantees abroad for Russian national sovereignty — and things are still there! Nothing changes!
        In general, a colony - it is a colony!
    2. dSK
      dSK 10 January 2018 07: 55
      10
      Quote: Vard
      this is a gift
      “War will show the plan”, we are waiting for the “fried rooster” to arrive. For Kazakhstan, the bell has already rung. hi
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 10 January 2018 09: 53
        +8
        Quote: dsk
        “War will show the plan”, we are waiting for the “fried rooster” to arrive. For Kazakhstan, the bell has already rung.

        Our bell may ring.
        1. Saburov
          Saburov 12 January 2018 06: 36
          +1
          Quote: Stroporez
          Our bell may ring.


          Greetings! It rings for a long time! Just our especially gifted among the underdeveloped ears were plugged with cotton wool from pseudo-patriotism. Moreover, the great-power dumbhead does not make it clear ... How so? The king is not real!

          I have long been here to a friend under the nickname osoboye mneniye wrote a comment about this situation. And he persistently proved to me that this is a cunning plan!

          Quote: Saburov
          In accordance with Articles 96.11 and 96.12 of the Budget Code of the Russian Federation, the Government of the Russian Federation decides: the Government of the Russian Federation has established the following requirements for these financial assets:
          1. the funds of the Reserve Fund may be placed in debt instruments in the form of securities of foreign states, foreign state agencies and central banks of the following countries:
          Austria; Belgium; Great Britain; Germany; Denmark; Canada; Luxembourg; Netherlands; USA;
          Finland; France; Sweden.
          3. international financial organizations, in which debt funds of the Reserve Fund may be placed, include:
          - Asian Development Bank (Asian Development Bank, ABD);
          - Development Bank under the Council of Europe (Council of Europe Development Bank, CEB);
          - European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, EBRD);
          - European Investment Bank (EIB);
          - Inter-American Development Bank (Inter-American Development Bank, IADB);
          - International Finance Corporation (International Finance Corporation, IFC);
          - International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD);
          - International Monetary Fund (IMF);
          - Northern Investment Bank (Nordic Investment Bank, NIB).
          5. The Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation has the right to establish additional requirements for debt obligations and deposits with foreign banks and credit organizations within the limits established by the Government of the Russian Federation.
          In accordance with the authority granted by the Government of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation approved:
          1. regulatory currency structure of the Reserve Fund in the following composition
          US dollar - 45%;
          Euro - 45%;
          pound sterling - 10%.
          3. the list of foreign state agencies in whose debt obligations the funds of the Reserve Fund can be placed (as agreed with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation):
          - Austrian Export-Import Bank (Oesterreichische Kontrollbank Aktiengesellschaft, OKB);
          - Agency for State Lending, Spain (Instituto de Credito Oficial, ICO);
          - Agency for financing motorways and motorways, Austria (Autobahnen- und Schnellstrassen- Finanzierungs- Aktiengesellschaft, ASFINAG);
          - Group of banks for reconstruction and development, Germany (Kreditanstalt fur Wiederaufbau Bankengruppe);
          - Canadian Agency for Export Development (Export Development Canada, EDC);
          - Municipal Bank of the Netherlands (Bank Nederlandse Gemeenten, BNG);
          - Medium-Term Railway Network Financing Society, United Kingdom (Network Rail MTN Finance CLG (Plc));
          - Agricultural rental bank, Germany (Landwirtschaftliche Rentenbank);
          - The Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, USA (Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, Freddie Mac);
          - Federal National Mortgage Association, USA (Federal National Mortgage Assosiation, Fannie Mae);
          - Federal banks lending to housing, USA (Federal Home Loan Banks, FHLBanks);
          - Federal Farm Credit Banks, USA (Federal Farm Credit Banks, FFCB);
          - Municipal Credit Fund, France (Dexia Group);
          - Social Security Debt Service Fund, France (Caisse d'Amortissement de la Dette Sociale, CADES);
          - French Mortgage Fund (Credit Foncier de France, CFF);
      2. 73bor
        73bor 13 January 2018 20: 07
        0
        I agree and just wait, I can’t wait for the big "unexpected" to arrive and how pale all these Grefs and Nabiulins will look!
        1. Soho
          Soho 16 January 2018 06: 13
          +1
          In the story of the Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch of the 2007–2008 crisis, the unexpected came in. But who was punished? How has the system for using sovereign funds in the Russian Federation changed? Has it become more transparent or less risky? Nothing like this...
    3. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 10 January 2018 09: 46
      +4
      What is the yield on US Treasury bills?
      1. Jingibi
        Jingibi 10 January 2018 10: 15
        +2
        If I'm not mistaken, 3%
        1. Captain Nemo
          Captain Nemo 10 January 2018 18: 54
          +3
          You are not mistaken. With 30 summer repayment term)))
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 10 January 2018 22: 23
            +2
            Quote: Captain Nemo
            You are not mistaken. With 30 summer repayment term)))
            The war will begin before they have something there - their debts - "pay off"! Where did you see that the owners of the financial pyramids completely "extinguished" their obligations to investor-investors ?! Yes, this never happened - and in principle it cannot be! Under various pretexts, the owners of the financial pyramids disappear along with the money of their investors. For their parasite gain, all this is done.
        2. opus
          opus 11 January 2018 02: 46
          +3
          Quote: jingibi
          If I'm not mistaken, 3%

          ERROR

          1,5% - MARGE. NOW
          1,25% (Probably from the second quarter of 2018)

          Nabiulina ... I would say, but I clearly will not understand
    4. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 10 January 2018 11: 13
      15
      This is not an investment at all, it is a tribute to the winner from the losers. No one will ever return this money to Russia. No them, forget it.
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 10 January 2018 11: 35
        15
        "... another question arises: the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is increasing investments in the United States, knowing for sure that nobody will touch its assets under any circumstances? And where does the Central Bank get such confidence ..."

        It looks like a pension for emigration. You need to live there for something ...
        1. Strategy
          Strategy 13 January 2018 20: 16
          0
          Confidence - from the "established" results of the upcoming presidential election in Russia!
      2. opus
        opus 11 January 2018 02: 51
        +8
        Quote: AKuzenka
        No one will ever return this money to Russia. No them, forget it.

        good
        Sound person

        +
        The question, then, is why:
        Elvira Nabiullina will remain the head of the Bank of Russia. President Vladimir Putin said that he would offer her candidacy for consideration by the State Duma. He says that, under her leadership, the Central Bank “did a lot to stabilize the situation in the economy as a whole” and will continue to make “necessary and timely decisions”. In practice, this means that the regulator will continue to pursue a tight monetary policy and “stripping” the banking sector.

        Putin is pleased with Nabiullina and will ask the State Duma to extend its powers

        Bank of RUSSIA?
        or a branch of the US Federal Reserve?

        more than 6 000 0000 000 000, 00 rubles naebu *** transferred to America ("Cold War", "our" and etc. and so on)
        1. serega61
          serega61 13 January 2018 06: 51
          0
          Nabiulina is the fifth Russian doll in the set. What they say to her is what she does.
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 10 January 2018 12: 11
      +6
      The United States will never return Russian gold. In the best case, exchange for pieces of paper and make them unnecessary. And it is stored there to perpetuate the American dollar, as the main world currency. laughing
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 12: 55
        14
        Quote: siberalt
        USA will never return Russian gold

        What, to the raven, is "Russian gold in the USA"?
        Have you read the article?
        Although the article and ... not honey, but such nonsense is not even there laughing
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 13 January 2018 06: 41
          +2
          Unfortunately, many believe that interstate transactions for the purchase of goods and services are carried out by simply transferring funds from one account to another. Although those who used eBay purchases through Pay Pall should already be aware that things are not so simple. For foreign public procurement, in the right country is a bank that agrees to accompany the transaction and takes a loan, which is usually repaid at the end of the year. That is, the transaction is conducted through a loan! And now we are starting to think, but where is Russia to get a loan in the face of ever tougher sanctions when the credit line has been limited? Everyone will say right away, in China! And here you go, Chinese banks affiliated for foreign trade do not give loans to those countries that are under sanctions for fear of losing this very “affiliation”. And where is the exit? And the bank accepts highly liquid securities — these very “treasuries”, which, if desired, are already converted into cash currency, to exit the mortgage transaction, that is, instead of a loan. Yes, there is a percentage loss, but this is better than "nothing." It is for these purposes that Russia is buying the Treasury.
  2. Altona
    Altona 10 January 2018 07: 44
    28
    It remains only to understand whether the GDP and its wrong boyars are true patriots? Does our king rule there? Did Ruguai Stalin, who “missed the start of the war”, have all our “generals” and “economy gurus” foreseen? Apparently jumping on a rake is our everything. More Kudrin and Chubais in the economy. So win!
    1. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 10 January 2018 08: 59
      17
      Quote: Altona
      It remains only to understand whether the GDP and its wrong boyars are true patriots? Does our king rule there?

      If you drop the verbal curtain and propaganda and judge only by deeds and results, the answer is obvious - no, no and no!
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 10 January 2018 09: 36
        +2
        What do you think should be done? What could I say - yes, yes. and yes!
        Only offers from the series "land to peasants, water to sailors" are not suitable. Will not work.
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 10 January 2018 10: 37
          15
          Let's start with the "small" one - we will sell ALL "American debts" and invest them in Russia, the ministers will always moan - there is no money for pensions, no money for military, no money for science. So we will invest in science, in schools, and sporting centers for children, in the army, in the railways, in the math help for children. And if "not enough" - then dismiss ALL from the Ministry of Finance and Economics (and ministers - to execute on Red Square). They say such methods with Ivan the Terrible and even with Comrade Stalin - they gave an excellent rezultat, even food prices fell good
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 10 January 2018 10: 58
            -1
            I will give the simplest consideration.
            For example, the so-called social objects. For their full-fledged work, a lot of employees, state employees are required, I pay attention, and just constant investments. Where do you intend to get money to pay for this new army of state employees?
            Imagine that you are the new Minister of Finance, instead of being hanged in the Red Square.
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 10 January 2018 11: 04
              14
              And can you say how many "extra" money is now on hand in the leadership of Russia? Any "reserves" there, funds, just "remnants of correspondent accounts"? According to some, the amount is breathtaking. And the Russian economy is now just suffering from a lack of money. There are no people who haven’t been uploaded to banks in which no one takes them at insane interest, but the population.
              I advise you to recall the words of Ben Bernanke "I am ready to throw packs of dollars over America, if only to increase economic activity" good And in Russia, the Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Economy, and others like him and at the head of their Central Bank - piiiiiiiiiii piiiiiiiiii piiiiiiiiii piiiiiiiiii. They raked out ALL money from people, the economy is literally suffocating. Even when prices are snowing under various pretexts, trade - can NOT achieve the attraction of turnover. The population - LITERALLY no money. negative
              I think this is the “dumb west” in the crisis - reducing the rate to ZERO, and some making it Negative or our Central Bank is too smart — raising it from insane 9% to 16%? am
              1. Spez
                Spez 10 January 2018 13: 19
                +1
                Quote: Mih1974
                According to some, the amount is breathtaking.

                comment on your statement, plz. If I take 0,001% of this amount for myself, will this percentage for a loaf of bread be enough or for an island in the Caribbean?
            2. dSK
              dSK 10 January 2018 12: 06
              +2
              Hello Sergey!
              Quote: Mestny
              Where do you intend to get money to pay for this new army of state employees?
              Stand the "Power of Siberia" on these frozen in the United States, and not to collect Chinese loans, and then drive gas to pay for them at half price for years. Stable and guaranteed income - a gas pipeline on its territory, onshore, not offshore. hi
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 10 January 2018 12: 17
                0
                Well. may be. Honestly, I don’t know how it works at the state level, and what are the real numbers.
                Only from the media, like all of us. And this, of course, is at least in doubt. well or not enough to wave a checker.
            3. Svist
              Svist 14 January 2018 21: 11
              0
              Quote: Mestny
              instead of the hanged man in red square.

              Here's another ... Area to fuck ... negative
          2. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 10 January 2018 11: 18
            +1
            Ahahahaha. The law forbids what you offer.
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 10 January 2018 11: 21
              +4
              The law is not a closet, you can "move". And in general - during the time of the Roman Empire, "free people" could kill their slaves (with impunity), with the Hamuras - in general, the devil that by modern standards was in the Laws and nothing - they somehow lived. So Laws are not absolute, if they do not meet the requirements of "time" and the demands of the people then they are changed.
              1. Spez
                Spez 10 January 2018 13: 26
                +2
                And in general - during the time of the Roman Empire, "free people" could kill their slaves (with impunity), at Hamмcheersпand - in general, the devil that by modern standards was in the Laws and nothing - somehow they lived.

                You have been misled.
          3. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 13: 02
            +6
            Quote: Mih1974
            annotate them to Russia

            Very correct offer! Let’s ... "Inveterate"!

            But here is the problem - the country's foreign exchange reserve will decrease exactly by the “invested" amount ...

            And this, believe me, is absolutely, completely not healthy ... and the region is not healthy No.
      2. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 10 January 2018 10: 18
        +5
        If you drop the verbal curtain and propaganda and judge only by deeds and results, the answer is obvious - no, no and no!

        Why so ??? They raised Russia from their knees and they have a "cunning" plan?
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 10 January 2018 12: 22
          -1
          It's simple.
          There is HPP, and there is HPT (Trump's cunning plan) for example, and many other HP. And they, as you might guess, have directly opposite goals.
          Therefore, the results of their implementation are somehow different from 100%, on both sides of the confrontation.
    2. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 10 January 2018 11: 17
      +1
      So Putin, like Stalin, has to maneuver between the interests of power groups and they are groups, almost everything (I don’t have accurate information, I just see the results), pro-Western. Everything is understood there by both the "boyars" and Putin.
  3. Serge72
    Serge72 10 January 2018 08: 03
    19
    I wish the West did not love Russia
    So well sucked ...
  4. Loess
    Loess 10 January 2018 08: 29
    +4
    The report indicates that fundamentally nothing has changed in the investments, and most of them are still fueling, as they say, for American cut paper,

    And the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is investing in yuan as much as 0,1% of reserves. This is diversified, so to speak. This is reoriented! ..

    The author, of course, writes the right things, but ... And what currency is now provided with at least something? If I’m not mistaken, both the yuan and dollars and other Tugriks at the moment are nothing more than cut paper ... And the ruble as well. Yes, it’s bad that we invest in the state economy, but it is hardly better to invest in the Chinese economy. Yes, and it doesn’t matter, whose securities are our money. As long as the global banking system is controlled by Western countries (and not by us), our money can be frozen anywhere and at any time. So I don’t see much point in transferring money from one currency to another. Unless speculate on exchange rates. The only sound option is to invest our gold reserves in various social, infrastructural and other projects in Russia, but in this case the money will end sooner or sooner or later and we will be left without an “airbag” in case of unforeseen circumstances. I’m never an economist and I don’t understand much in this kitchen, but it seems to me that our money is stored “over the hill” simply because the conditions for returning it to Russia have not yet been created. But such conditions are created or not - this mystery is great.
    1. eugraphus
      eugraphus 10 January 2018 08: 57
      +1
      Gold is a currency without a state. Gaddafi wanted to introduce a gold dinar, the United States did not. And he ended his life with a shank from a spade in the ass. Ours does not want such an end. Therefore, there will be no drastic changes. Gold reserves are gradually being built up, but on the whole we are behaving obediently.
      1. Loess
        Loess 10 January 2018 09: 05
        0
        I know about Gaddafi, and as for
        Ours does not want such an end. Therefore, there will be no drastic changes. Gold reserves are gradually being built up, but on the whole we are behaving obediently.
        then the conditions are still being created, it's just that the time has not come yet.
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 10 January 2018 09: 40
        +3
        Come on Gaddafi.
        And so, ordinary citizens of the country, together with the whole country, which he led, did not finish with the same result? Thanks to U.S. intervention.
        1. Dedall
          Dedall 10 January 2018 22: 27
          +1
          But how joyfully they finished.
  5. Gardamir
    Gardamir 10 January 2018 09: 06
    13
    and here we are the USA, Britain, France and Germany - with the very last words ... They love us, help us, our money is kept in us, and we ...
    one hundred pluses to the author. sometimes irony and sarcasm play a big role
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 10 January 2018 09: 45
      +2
      Well, yes, the author is right, that's just "love" and "have" is not exactly the same thing.
  6. Altona
    Altona 10 January 2018 09: 25
    +4
    Quote: Less
    The only sound option is to invest our gold reserves in various social, infrastructure and other projects in Russia, but in this case the money will end sooner or sooner or later and we will be left without an “airbag” in case of unforeseen circumstances. I’m never an economist and I don’t understand much in this kitchen, but it seems to me that our money is stored “over the hill” simply because the conditions for returning it to Russia have not yet been created. But such conditions are created or not - this mystery is great.

    ---------------------------------------------
    China does this and does not bother at all. China at one time went to the accumulation of American "hard" currency, to show that it will surpass the United States. The US responded asymmetrically to China by printing 4 trillion candy wrappers that China was so proud of. The point is to develop our own commodity support. We will have a currency, while we trade in natural resources, do not bother with this. Actually, Gazprom and Rosneft emerged as a source of currency for the USSR, but the currency guys broke the USSR and did the opposite. Apparently this is why they kept late Brezhnev for so long, discredited Soviet infrastructure projects by long-term construction projects, discredited the principle of payment according to work, and began to slander the engineering corps in order to break the USSR after Brezhnev's death. Brezhnev’s death coincided with the end of the construction of pipelines to Western Europe; commercial offices appeared in Europe, in which children of the party farm nomenclature settled. And perestroika took place, blessed by the "peaceful coexistence of the two systems and convergence."
    1. San Sanych
      San Sanych 10 January 2018 10: 54
      +3
      Perhaps the way it is. In short, the guys from the party nomenclature wanted to convert their privileges into hard currency, but only apparently miscalculated, forgetting that there were also big uncles and an older brother behind the hill, and therefore they would still be slaves.
  7. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 10 January 2018 09: 44
    0
    The only question is for the "analyst." What does not need to be stored, of course. And what do you need? Still with profitability
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 10 January 2018 09: 58
      +7
      Only question
      questions should not be asked by analysts, but by the president and the government.
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 10 January 2018 10: 43
      +5
      For the "alternatively gifted" - and what is the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the country "deposits of Democracy" (USA)? Oh - no matter what !!!! am So we need this - gold, platinum, diamonds in granaries, pour all the currency into the market (well, or an insignificant reserve, in the most extreme case). Stocks of money - not needed, "free money" must be invested in Russia good On the road, in high-quality education for schoolchildren and students, in science, in infrastructure, in the Army, in the health of the people of Russia !! good If there is "beggarly money" - reduce taxes on small and medium-sized businesses, raise the "tax-free income" to - 30.000 rubles per month good
      1. Spez
        Spez 10 January 2018 13: 39
        +1

        Do you know what this character would say in your words?
    3. AA17
      AA17 10 January 2018 12: 22
      +6
      Dear, Captain Nemo. "... And what is necessary? ..." is a good question. It is necessary to store in a well-developed and competitive Russian economy. It is necessary to keep young people in modern and technologically advanced education, in healthcare, in growing demographics. It is necessary to store in the construction of new factories for 25 million high-tech jobs in Russia. Yes, there are many places in Russia where you can store money. There would be a political Will.
      P.S. In the meantime, "... the funds invested by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation work for US citizens. By transferring national wealth to the Federal Reserve, our state will receive no more than 1,5 billion per year! At the same time, American citizens will be able to purchase these funds cars and real estate at a rate close to 3-4%. American business will receive an additional cash flow to finance investment programs at low rates, while Russian business will continue to make a miserable fortune by freezing equipment upgrades, as the opportunity to raise money at 10 and more than% per annum is not present at all. ... "
    4. Alf
      Alf 10 January 2018 20: 12
      +2
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      The only question is for the "analyst." What does not need to be stored, of course. And what do you need? Still with profitability

      And in what did the Soviet Union save money? In gold, he had a closed economy and felt himself in crisis times perfectly. No one ever answered the question. But what for do we need a freely convertible ruble?
  8. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 09: 52
    +8
    Quote: Vard
    It has not yet been said that these investments are almost at zero percent ... in essence, this is a gift, free assistance, so to speak ...

    Yeah ... help, having no trouble (s) Owl.
    At least some percentage is better than none.
    Reserves lying in green dollars, and this does not bring.
    Quote: PSih2097
    not a fact, maybe under minus it’s about fifteen percent ...

    belay What is it like??
    Quote: dsk
    For Kazakhstan, the bell has already rung

    And here is the treasure?
    Specialties, damn it negative
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 10 January 2018 10: 33
      +1
      wink It is seen Golovan that you never had savings.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 11: 02
        +4
        Quote: andrej-shironov
        you never had savings

        How much do you know ... Octopus.
        And it's not about savings, but about ... pocket money, in practice.
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 10 January 2018 11: 08
          +4
          laughing Everyone would have such pocket money! But by the way, this is really pocket money of the authorities and not of the people, here you are right.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 14: 01
            +5
            Quote: andrej-shironov
            this is really pocket money of power and not of the people

            Neither one nor the other.
            This is the pocket money of the state ... for, so to speak, unforeseen expenses.
            Quote: andrej-shironov
            here you are right

            Unlike you, I'm almost always right. Because I understand what I'm writing about. And I don’t write about what I don’t understand.
            Take an example wink
            1. AA17
              AA17 10 January 2018 15: 14
              0
              Dear, Golovan Jack. It is not very logical, or rather stupid, (if this happens of their own free will) to keep their "pocket money" in the pockets of a bandit from a neighboring yard.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 15: 46
                +4
                Quote: AA17
                Not very logical, or rather stupid ... to keep your "pocket money" in the pockets of a bandit from a neighboring yard

                Pocket money is an analogy. not exhaustive even once, but in the context of a conversation with a schoolboy andrej-shironov she just.
                If you want to argue on the merits - read (at least minimally) that there are treasures, what they eat with and why they buy it.
                Then, if there is a desire, come back and talk.
                1. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov 10 January 2018 18: 57
                  0
                  wink Do you juggle all the comments? You old cunning! Well, I’m making screenshots of important things to me.
            2. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 10 January 2018 15: 28
              0
              smile Is this an example from you? laughing As they would say in a youth party rzhunimaga!
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                1. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov 10 January 2018 15: 52
                  0
                  wink I noticed this to your smile.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 10 January 2018 11: 02
      +3
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      Specialties, damn it

      But the patriots. laughing Well, not everyone understands the economy and in these same treasure, but it’s a shame for the power. So let's still do a little less snobbery, but better without it. smile
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 11: 14
        +4
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        not everyone understands the economy and in these same treasure

        +
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        But the patriots

        =
        No food write about what you don’t understand. And you will be happy yes
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        So let's all the same

        Let’s go without let’s go, eh? And what shall I and whom to tell, somehow I myself will decide.
        It works out well for me, verified by experience wink
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 10 January 2018 12: 55
          +2
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          And what shall I and whom to tell, somehow I myself will decide.
          It works out well for me, verified by experience

          This is so, a wish. Type of health to you in the New Year, money, good luck in business and less snobbery. smile
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 14: 04
            +5
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Type of health to you in the New Year, money, good luck in business

            Thank you.
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            and less snobbery

            SNOB
            A man who is carried away only by external gloss and who seeks to blindly imitate the tastes and manners of bourgeois-aristocratic "high society"

            SNOBBERY
            The behavior, manners inherent in a snob.

            And somewhere you found in me "a blind imitation of the tastes and manners of the bourgeois-aristocratic" high society ""?
            In what, I apologize, place?
            A quote from Carroll about long and beautiful words used out of place asks right there in language ...
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 10 January 2018 14: 18
              +1
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              And somewhere you found in me "a blind imitation of the tastes and manners of the bourgeois-aristocratic" high society ""?

              “They also call a person who claims to be highly intelligent, refined taste or authority in some area, and at the same time arrogantly relating to those who, in his opinion, are deprived of these advantages.”
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              A quote from Carroll about long and beautiful words used out of place asks right there in language ...

              Snobbery is a fairly short word, although it can be beautiful. smile
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 10 January 2018 18: 59
                +2
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                And somewhere you found in me "a blind imitation of the tastes and manners of the bourgeois-aristocratic" high society ""?

                “They also call a person who claims to be highly intelligent, refined taste or authority in some area, and at the same time arrogantly relating to those who, in his opinion, are deprived of these advantages.”
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                A quote from Carroll about long and beautiful words used out of place asks right there in language ...

                Snobbery is a fairly short word, although it can be beautiful. smile

                Do not be offended and do not argue with Golovan; he is on a salary, his main task is to arouse a sense of disdain among the interlocutors
  9. Jingibi
    Jingibi 10 January 2018 10: 22
    +5
    About the Central Bank ... See our basic law. It stipulates its special status as an institution located outside any branch of government, it (the government) is not controlled. And about investments in other economies. According to the FKZ on the Central Bank, the central bank is not directly authorized to borrow to its government. Mongolia - it is possible, the Russian Federation - it is impossible. But this law is already under the "dad" adopted ... So.,.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 11: 04
      +6
      Quote: jingibi
      About the Central Bank ... See our basic law. It stipulates its special status ... the authorities are uncontrollable

      Exactly.
      And then we look at the Law on the Central Bank, and we see that everything is quite ... controlled.
      Quote: jingibi
      So that.,.

      ... learn materiel yes
      1. dSK
        dSK 10 January 2018 14: 07
        +1
        In February, Trump promises to tighten anti-Russian sanctions, and if another “surprise” falls out in the form of a Malaysian Boeing, they may not only arrest the treasure and write letters. hi
        Quote: Volodin Alexey
        Does the Central Bank of the Russian Federation have any guarantees that, in the event of a new stage of sanction pressure, the “good uncle” across the ocean does not have the desire to “slightly freeze” billions of such 150-200 Russian assets.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 15: 42
          +5
          Quote: dsk
          ... may seize not only the treasure ...

          It is unlikely (s)
          I'm talking about the "treasure".
          This entire market is based on trust in the issuer.
          Any sudden movement in this market threatens him, the market, with a collapse.
          And there, EMNIP, more than 6 trillion. raccoons in this paper.
          And the Americans, contrary to popular belief, are not at all so "stupid" to themselves a fork stick the pitchfork in the ass.
          Quote: dsk
          Quote: Volodin Alexey

          good laughing good
          You’ve been at VO for a year and a half and haven’t yet understood Volodin’s style?
          Really made fun, PLUS !!!
  10. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 10 January 2018 10: 32
    +4
    Aleksei, has repeatedly written that the Russian elite has long been integrated into the conglomeration of world elites, although on vassal terms. All these battles with the West are beneficial both to the Russian authorities and to the West. In our particular case, we can speak, in the language of lawyers, about a dispute between business entities, no more! The analogy is quite viable. There is no mention of any ideological component of the confrontation. The capitalist and the capitalist understand each other very well, but at the same time they must always keep the peoples of the country in good shape.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 10 January 2018 13: 55
      +1
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Aleksei, has repeatedly written that the Russian elite has long been integrated into the conglomeration of world elites, although on vassal terms. All these battles with the West are beneficial both to the Russian authorities and to the West ...
      ... The capitalist and the capitalist understand each other perfectly, but at the same time they must always keep the peoples of the country in good shape.

      It’s not without reason that the West constantly declares Moscow’s interference in democratic processes in Western countries (Putin chose Trump ...). And all these statements are just words, without evidence or justification; in the same row there are also scratches on test tubes with substitution of urine samples in commissions of mclaren-osvalds ... which allows them to bring the grounds for interference in the internal affairs of Russia - you are, well, here we are ...
      But there is a second side to the issue: since “Trump was chosen by Putin and Russian hackers”, then there are doubts about the legitimacy of the elections in the Western countries themselves, which makes it possible to use the possibility of denunciation of any and all international agreements.
      Starting a “hot” war with Russia is dumb, and not at all - the GDP is easily discouraged, and the Syrian operation to pacify ISIS dispels myths about Russia's military weakness.
      And now - “elections” await Russia; and these elections will be made not only by the people, but also by the authorities! If the "elite" is not on the same path with this state, and therefore not with the people, then it should have a legally justified "inglorious end"! Our entire vast banking sector will have to be cleaned up - starting with the Central Bank; since the practice of “crises” and “anti-crises” shows one thing: - no matter how much you pour into commercial banks, what’s a crisis, what’s not a crisis — money is transferred to the foreign exchange market, and not to the real sector of the economy. And without nationalization of the banking system, these flows cannot be deployed - "... bridges, railways, warehouses and banks.... ", like" the father of the proletarian revolution "?
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 10 January 2018 19: 01
        +3
        Dear Control! The current elite is no exception, never with the people! Elections are not waiting for Russia, waiting for a circus called "elections without a choice"
  11. Altona
    Altona 10 January 2018 10: 34
    +7
    Quote: Gardamir
    questions should not be asked by analysts, but by the president and the government.

    -----------------------------------
    Yes, it’s not the questions that need to be asked, but criminal cases to be opened and the firing squads to be assembled.
    1. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 10 January 2018 18: 56
      0
      To record you? In the executioners then?
  12. Altona
    Altona 10 January 2018 10: 35
    +7
    Quote: jingibi
    According to the FKZ on the Central Bank, the central bank is not directly authorized to borrow to its government. Mongolia - it is possible, the Russian Federation - it is impossible. But this law is already under the "dad" adopted ... So.,.

    -------------------------------
    Voooot! Right! RF and its regions niiiiizya-aaa. Never! That is, you can vacuum the money from the economy of the Russian Federation, and vice versa!
  13. Altona
    Altona 10 January 2018 10: 37
    +5
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    And here is the treasure?

    ----------------------------
    Yes, it’s not a matter of treasurer, but of the Anglo-Saxon system of law, where all your assets and the assets of those affiliated with you can be stupidly arrested as part of a legal proceeding in a private suit. All! That is, the American company "horns and hooves", as the Swiss "Foot" will try to arrest everything that it reaches.
    1. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 10 January 2018 18: 56
      0
      It seems to me, or American law and continental, is this still a small difference? Especially regarding securities?
  14. Sansculotte
    Sansculotte 10 January 2018 11: 11
    +3
    Well, the confrontation is for the lumpen patriots, vote further for the "indispensable" to whom "in the current situation I see no alternative"

    You will still find a patriotic justification for this
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 10 January 2018 12: 29
      0
      And you will probably still find the rationale for being "bad".
      I have talked about this many times, I repeat once again: In relation to one’s country, patriotism in ANY case is much better than pouring mud over the country and worshiping an enemy or rival. Even if this patriotism is expressed insufficiently well-reasoned.
      Just the fact of its presence is already good. And what's more, it’s only acceptable for a citizen of a given country.
      As they say, to respect the homeland when all is well, everyone can. You try to do it when she has problems.
  15. Serzh_R
    Serzh_R 10 January 2018 13: 19
    +3
    While in the Russian elite there will only be traders, and not the owners of world production - this will be so.
  16. CONTROL
    CONTROL 10 January 2018 13: 33
    +2
    Russia is, in fact, a capitalist country and latently follows a liberal course, and liberalism - a liberal ideology (and not the proletariat, as previously stated ...) - the grave digger of capitalism! But, perishing - capitalism strives to drag the whole world into the grave.
    The global financial system, which relies on bank financial capital - and in the modern world 92% of banking operations with financial capital are speculation without increasing the value of monetary units (and this is the dollar, of course!); and there is - has long been revealed! - a tendency to distrust the dollar, which is losing - but what is there! - not having real merchandise filling as a monetary unit! Money has three functions defined - they are a means of payment, a unit of account, and a unit of preservation of value. And cryptocurrencies entering the financial market (all kinds of bitcoins ... Chinese "phoenix" ...) can become a "cushion" to the soft, safe - alas, only for the USA !!! - the disappearance of the dollar as a world supranational currency. Which, of course, will entail the "disappearance" of US obligations - government bonds !!! - on investments in other countries in the American economy (why treasury! ... come on bitcoin ...); Well, the primitive swindle of Americans with foreign gold (and precious metal ingots were faked in state banks and state vaults, and ingots were re-melted with weight reduction ...) have been known since de Gaulle and Helmut Coll, and naughtily shyly look down their eyes and compensate for losses (theft !) are not going to!
    In offshore, crammed to forty trillion dollars financial capital. There is an overabundance of capital in fictitious - speculative, but profitable spheres, while the areas on which the future of the whole planet depends have a shortage of funds! Leading economists advising the banking business - consider financial, industrial and (!!!) environmental (and the significance of the latter was proved by attempts at large-scale development of shale gas deposits, for example ...) capital as equivalents - as long as financial capital grows - everything is fine! For example: Western producers of shale oil and gas now can only think about how to delay the inevitable default for another couple of months. But in the existing and servicing financial system, it is possible to delay the end - gaining more and more new loans in succession - for years when the refinancing rate is underestimated to near zero values.
    It seems that the cryptocurrencies entering into circulation - digital money - will absorb irretrievably(!!!) US public debt to other countries and the whole world. This is a grandiose financial scam introduced, driven in and implemented !!!
    Cryptocurrencies and the dollar https://www.planet-kob.ru/articles/6903
  17. Altona
    Altona 10 January 2018 14: 07
    +1
    Quote: Captain Nemo
    The only question is for the "analyst." What does not need to be stored, of course. And what do you need? Still with profitability

    -------------------------------
    Well, the United States has a government debt of 20 trillion of its own candy wrappers. Are you borrowing new amounts of money to your debtors? hi
  18. pepel
    pepel 10 January 2018 14: 15
    0
    Article 58, paragraph 1 is all that our "elite" needs. am
  19. Jarilo
    Jarilo 10 January 2018 15: 19
    +4
    Siluanov told Soloviev that freezing financial assets is an act of financial terrorism, that America is a civilized country, that it will never do that. And literally immediately after that, America freezes the financial resources of Kazakhstan. Who are these people: Siluanovs, Grefs, Kudrins? Are these people at all?
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 11 January 2018 08: 32
      +2
      Quote: Jarilo
      Who are these people: Siluanovs, Grefs, Kudrins? Are these people at all?

      Reptiloids! ...
      -------------------------------------
      There was such an American movie - "Visitors"; it's about them!
      ... oh, how they ate live rats there! You’ll admire ...
  20. Altona
    Altona 10 January 2018 15: 43
    +1
    Quote: Jarilo
    Siluanov told Soloviev that freezing financial assets is an act of financial terrorism, that America is a civilized country

    -----------------------------
    Siluanov found a very precise definition. He is a financial terrorist.
  21. Awaz
    Awaz 10 January 2018 17: 52
    0
    let's no tantrums. Now, if the grandmothers from the Russian Federation lay like, for example, the gold of Germany in the USA, it would be possible to yell and be indignant. However, fixed assets are securities, often government securities. Considering the fact that in the same USA there is an enormous amount of money from all over the world in these papers, they don’t have any particular security, except for reputation and honesty, and if one of two large and not even very large investors, after the US authorities behave uncleanly with these papers, they will start to sell them abruptly - a huge scandal will break out and if not the collapse of the entire economy but a cruel bummer. Anyone who has "extra" money stores them in different baskets, many of you have stash in dollars ...
    The trouble is not even that they keep it abroad. The trouble is that in Russia there is nothing to invest in. In Russia, nothing belongs to Russia. Even building for example high-speed rail is not so much for the Russians, but rather to accelerate the movement of goods between China and the EU ...
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 10 January 2018 17: 54
      +4
      Quote: AwaZ
      The trouble is that in Russia there is nothing to invest in. In Russia, nothing belongs to Russia

      Can I have a little more detail from now on?

      And by the way, what is the relation of those funds that are “stored” (reserves) related to “invest” (budget)?
      Quote: AwaZ
      The trouble is not that they keep abroad. The trouble is that in Russia there is nothing to invest
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 10 January 2018 18: 01
      +3
      Quote: AwaZ
      Even building for example high-speed rail is not so much for the Russians, but rather to accelerate the movement of goods between China and the EU ...

      You are very mistaken. In the light of further urbanization, just the HSR is extremely important for Russia. And in addition to urbanization, for example, to better connect the territories of the European part of Russia and Siberia with the Far East.
    3. CONTROL
      CONTROL 11 January 2018 08: 28
      +1
      Quote: AwaZ
      fixed assets are securities, often government securities. Considering the fact that in the same USA there is an enormous amount of money from all over the world in these papers, they don’t have any particular security, except for reputation and honesty, and if one of two large and not even very large investors, after the US authorities behave uncleanly with these papers, they will start to sell them abruptly - a huge scandal will break out and if not the collapse of the entire economy but a cruel bummer. .

      There were not one or two such scandals - with Middle Eastern oil countries: Iran, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia ... who else is there? And they refused to pay interest on treasuries, and the accounts were arrested ... And sho? ...
      ... America can do everything that "everyones there" is impossible !!!
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 11 January 2018 09: 38
        +4
        Quote: CONTROL
        There were not one or two such scandals ...

        ... example, please. It is especially interesting when and to whom
        Quote: CONTROL
        refused to pay interest on treasuries

        Og yes
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 11 January 2018 09: 44
          +1
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Quote: CONTROL
          There were not one or two such scandals ...

          ... example, please. It is especially interesting when and to whom
          Quote: CONTROL
          refused to pay interest on treasuries

          Og yes

          You, [Golovan Jack] that - were born yesterday?
          No! Today...
          (m / f "Wolf and Calf")
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 11 January 2018 09: 46
            +4
            Quote: CONTROL
            You, [Golovan Jack], were you born yesterday?

            I asked a question. Again:
            Quote: CONTROL
            refused to pay interest on treasuries

            To whom and when? Specificallywithout wagging ... "second of ninety."
        2. CONTROL
          CONTROL 11 January 2018 09: 56
          +1
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          ... example, please. It is especially interesting when and to whom
          Quote: CONTROL
          refused to pay interest on treasuries

          Og yes

          Tregeris -
          generic name of US government debt
          , "securities" issued by the Fed, not the US government!
          US debt to other countries is growing - the Fed prints "cut paper", paints it with greens, op-pa! - the debt is covered! You can also print "Treasure" - they are another color ...
          -------------------------------
          They did not pay, starting with de Gaulle - why did he withdraw the gold of France from Fort Knox!
          ... as they like to hint here: "Learn the materiel!"
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 11 January 2018 10: 00
            +5
            So. Once again, especially for fans to chat topic:
            Quote: CONTROL
            refused to pay interest on treasuries

            Quote: Golovan Jack
            To whom and when? Specifically

            And what is Treasure, I am in the know yes
            Quote: CONTROL
            They did not pay, starting with de Gaulle - why did he withdraw the gold of France from Fort Knox!

            By treasure? Did not pay? Starting with de Gaulle?
            Well, you, my friend ... a dreamer negative
            1. CONTROL
              CONTROL 11 January 2018 10: 02
              +1
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Well, you, my friend ... a dreamer

              And you, baby - a troll! Stone ... or "tuff"?
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 11 January 2018 10: 05
                +5
                Quote: CONTROL
                And you, baby - a troll!

                In what place, sorry?
                Initially, you say ... deliberate stupidity.
                To the clarifying question (the simplest), you are not able to answer ... thereby confirming that you said it was stupidity.
                And at the same time I’m still a troll and call me laughing
                Alright, swim further ... negative
                1. CONTROL
                  CONTROL 11 January 2018 10: 14
                  +2
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Alright, swim further ... negative

                  This is the style!
                  This is an image!
                  ... here it - karma?! ...
                  (Do I need to quote school - and university - textbooks of history and political economy? Or is it simpler to give Mum to read?
                  I lived in these times - when all these arrests of accounts, refusals in payments and te te - happened! And today, I see, he died ... because - in the school history textbook it is written about the atomic bombing of Japan, carried out by the evil USSR!)
  22. free
    free 10 January 2018 19: 21
    0
    They can only escape if anything, the money has already been transferred to safe places. So whose is the elite, ours or them?
  23. Dormidont2
    Dormidont2 10 January 2018 19: 46
    -1
    one more reason to vote for Grudinin and the Communist Party, you have to be an idiot to believe for 18 years that the “tsar" knows nothing; they don’t report to him!
  24. Ural resident
    Ural resident 10 January 2018 20: 23
    +1
    All these arguments about keeping money in American securities are already fed up.
    So you have earned money - you need to save it for a long time so that no default takes it from you - what will you do? That's right - take it where you consider it the most reliable.
    There, and the states - the money earned is stored in the most favorable places, and no feeding of these "partners" is just saving money. If in rubles, then these funds would have melted a long time ago. Yuan will soon be stable like a dollar - they will store it there. In the meantime, alas, the ruble is not the most reliable place to store, but to spend it immediately within the country, as some suggest here, thereby causing a new surge in hyperinflation - this is generally stupid. Then we definitely will not see this money - we will again consider the salaries in millions as in the 90s.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 11 January 2018 08: 20
      +2
      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      All these arguments about keeping money in American securities are already fed up.
      So you have earned money - you need to save it for a long time so that no default takes it from you - what will you do? That's right - take it where you consider it the most reliable.
      There, and the states - the money earned is stored in the most favorable places, and no feeding of these “partners” is just saving money. .

      The state is a little bit - just a little! - differs from the "reference fisted muzhuk-master"! And to "keep money" anywhere - even in a bank, even in Sberbank - he not only doesn’t need, it’s just bad ... They need to invest them - in the development of the real sector of the economy, in social programs that ensure the future of the country, its leading development: in science, in education, in medicine, in the patriotic education of youth, the development of culture; well - and to the economy, finally! To your own, not to someone else's ...
      Otherwise, we all for an indefinite period (maybe forever ...) will remain "residents of the Urals" ... Yeah, lower case!
      1. Thomas the Unbelieving
        Thomas the Unbelieving 11 January 2018 18: 10
        +2
        In fact, the country needs a currency for settlements, but no more than the amount of four-month imports. Since 1952, the USSR and the PRC kept the currency in Sovzabranbanks. This was done with the beginning of the Cold War by closing all accounts of foreign economic organizations in banks belonging to hostile countries. The country kept its reserves in monetary gold, which Comrade Stalin inherited in an amount that we do not have yet. In his opinion, which he expressed at a meeting with a group of learned economists in 1952, the Soviet ruble should be provided with gold and goods. According to Comrade Stalin and Mikoyan, export for currency is a loss for the country: the real quantity of goods in the country decreases, and the money supply increases. As a result, demand for goods grows with decreasing supply. This explains the increase in our domestic prices for gasoline and gas with any change in export prices - domestic prices do not depend on export prices, but on export volume. Therefore, the boast of power that export is growing shows its basic economic illiteracy.
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 12 January 2018 07: 40
          +1
          Quote: Thomas the Unbelieving
          the real quantity of goods in the country is decreasing, and the money supply is increasing. As a result, demand for goods grows with decreasing supply. This explains the increase in our domestic prices for gasoline and gas with any change in export prices - domestic prices do not depend on export prices, but on export volume. Therefore, the boast of power that export is growing shows its basic economic illiteracy.

          ... and the Central Bank is successfully fighting inflation! almost overcame already ....
          That speaks only about a decrease in purchasing power - and not only of the population, but also of business: it is a simple and primitive under-lending of industrial production! "No money, but you hold on!"
          ... the "work" of the Central Bank in its pure, unclouded by all sorts of "economic reasonings"! or, as it is called - "Elvira hurricane" ...
      2. Giants
        Giants 11 January 2018 21: 09
        +4
        Quote: CONTROL
        They need to be invested - in the development of the real sector of the economy, in social programs that ensure the future of the country, its faster development: in science, education, medicine, patriotic youth education, cultural development; well - and to the economy, finally! To your own, not to someone else's ...

        You know, the day before yesterday I read an article on this subject and there I came across just a fantastic quote from Expert. Check it out:
        The Central Bank cannot and should not refuse to invest in securities of foreign states. From a legal point of view, such investments are protected by the fact that formally the Central Bank is separated from the state and is not subordinate to the government.
        In addition, the refusal of such investments will lead to a decrease in the investment rating of Russia and problems with ensuring export-import transactions, said Roman Koenigsberg.
        “If you do not invest assets in US government securities, then the question immediately arises of what to invest in. Theoretically, it would be possible to lend to other countries. However, this immediately raises the question of their creditworthiness. For example, we gave Ukraine a loan of almost $ 3 billion, and what came of it? ”, The expert asks.
        This body does not even consider investing in our economy!
  25. NordUral
    NordUral 10 January 2018 21: 01
    +1
    He gave his wife to his uncle, but where did he go? To ............? They will throw us, and together with "our" financiers and criminals, liberal and pseudo-patriotic.
  26. Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 10 January 2018 21: 19
    +1
    Quote: Captain Nemo
    The only question is for the "analyst." What does not need to be stored, of course. And what do you need? Still with profitability

    In the USSR, the currency was in banks (Vnesheconombank), but all the gold reserves were stored in the country. And it was written on large banknotes that they were provided with all the gold reserves of the USSR, precious stones and all the property of the USSR. Therefore, the ruble was well quoted in other countries .
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 January 2018 22: 41
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      Well, the ruble in the USSR cost 0,63 dollars - but now the economy does not need a strong ruble, pluses are a lower price for exported goods and expensive imports, as well as a large money supply from foreign deliveries. And Russia is gaining mass in gold, silver, platinum, palladium, precious stones.
  27. Thomas the Unbelieving
    Thomas the Unbelieving 11 January 2018 17: 47
    +1
    The problem is actually that we don’t have a Central Bank at all. I wrote about this in our forum "Who are we and where are we going? Part 2. With such a first column, the fifth is not needed." An excerpt from this material relating to the topic under discussion: As an example, I would like to give an example of creating one of the most important obstacles to the development of the economy of our country. So, when forming an organization called the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, lawmakers and the country's leadership were simply brazenly deceived, or maybe they themselves were glad to be deceived. When they write that our Central Bank is independent of state power like the Fed (US Federal Reserve System), they do not tell us the whole truth. The fact that we call the Central Bank and have been terribly cursing lately for its activities to stifle the economy has nothing to do with the organization and activities of the Fed.
    Americans are well versed in money and banking. During the ⅩIⅩ century, they twice created and liquidated the Bank of the USA. And it would be very important to first understand why all this was done and why they did not immediately succeed. It would be worthwhile to first understand, and then reform our banking system.
    First, let's see why the Americans needed the Central Bank. Apparently, it was necessary, even in conditions of gold circulation, to solve one problem that was very important for the country's economic development. It lies in the presence of a bank that would be the lender of last resort. Translated into an understandable language, this means that you need a bank that provides loans in the national currency of the Government and commercial banks of the country. Not by irrevocable financing, namely by granting loans, that is, it is needed only in order to throw money back if necessary. Thus, to ensure stability in the activities of the state and the banking system, and through it the entire economy of the country. Nothing more is required from such an organization and it is not necessary to get into such areas of economic activity that depend on the activities of the government of the country, and at the micro-level, by commercial banks.
    If the task is clear, then the question requires an answer, but what did the US prevent from doing this right away. According to American experts (and we can only rely on their materials), the First US Bank was used to intervene privately in private banks and perform police functions over banks.
    We will not go into American history. Let us look at how we justified these fears after a century and a half. The statistics is as follows: at the beginning of 2014, there were 859 banks in our country with the right to conduct banking operations, at the beginning of 2017 there were 575 such banks. There were no bankruptcy proceedings against 284 banks. They just got their licenses taken away. This means that what our so-called The Central Bank with banks is really a police function that professionals could do better without letting those guilty with money abroad. Moreover, our Central Bank generally spits on the Prosecutor General’s Office, that is, the laws of the country.
    The second reason that prevented the rapid formation of the Central Bank of the United States was that society was convinced that Wall Street's financial circles, large corporations and banks could manipulate this bank, providing control over the economy in their own selfish interests.
    Let's see what is being done in this regard in our country and to what extent the interests of the oligarchs impede the harmonious development of the economy and society of our country. It is easy and simple to find out by looking at the activities of our Central Bank on lending to the country. We will not go into details, just look at the structure of credit investments of the Bank of Russia, for example, on 1.1.2017. It looks like this:
    1. Loans granted to non-residents (to foreign countries) minus their obligations - 96,9%
    2. Loans issued to domestic banks, net of their liabilities - 9,68;
    3. Cash in circulation - 38,3%
    4. Government bodies - - 27,19% (minus)
    Total -100%
    Is there any need to doubt after that that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is really independent from the Russian state, and indeed from the peoples of Russia. Almost all of the country's credit resources, including by a third and from the state budget, that is, of us taxpayers, are used to lend to foreign capital and its armed forces.
    The conclusion is this: if a bureaucratic apparatus is not reconstructed in the country and a system of checks and balances is created, public control over the activities of the entire state apparatus and especially the Central Bank is not required, we will not require any sanctions. Not girls need to be changed, but ....
  28. bobba94
    bobba94 12 January 2018 21: 26
    +3
    I read the comments and thought. Everything is disgusting and bad, as in the saying: "enemies are all around, treason rolls." Then he googled and calmed down a bit, it turns out that Russia is somewhere in 11th place in the list of 30 countries, after Japan, China, Great Britain, Germany and so on. Moreover, an explanation is given that the list includes only countries that have US bonds worth more than $ 1 billion, and there are much more countries holding American bonds. Somehow it turns out. Either all these countries are stupid, or commentators don’t know something.
  29. I love Russia
    I love Russia 13 January 2018 07: 22
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    ! How much can live with traitors in power !!! ??? Oooh! Lenin, where are you?
  30. Strategy
    Strategy 13 January 2018 20: 20
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    Quote: siberalt
    The United States will never return Russian gold.

    I think if our Strategic Nuclear Forces turn to the United States, the p.i.nd.s.d.su will not be able to refuse. Only the will of the top military-political leadership of the Russian Federation is needed.
  31. Forever so
    Forever so 13 January 2018 23: 37
    +1
    Everyone swears, they criticize Putin, but he’s just like a pre-collective farm from a joke about aphids, hemp and parachutists, paraphrasing the pre-collective farms, the activities of the current leaders can be characterized as follows: And in the year ahead, we’ll give back 2 tons of gold and let them bastards ..... But I believe that the fact that all the country's foreign exchange reserves are stored with the enemy abroad, production is densely covered with pelot, and that what belongs to foreigners, people except deputies, officials and Muscovites in poverty, is a clever ploy of a scout. It’s as if, before the Second World War, all the shells were taken to Germany, and the people were immediately collected in concentration camps.
    1. Strategy
      Strategy 14 January 2018 20: 51
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      A plus. Only the Great Patriotic War in the abbreviation is not necessary to reduce, it is sacred. With the filing of bureaucrats who are eager to save paper (and move their fingers on the keyboard), participants and veterans of the Great Patriotic War now in various instances, such as social security and polyclinics, are contemptuously called “vovchiki” ... Brother, do not save on this!
    2. Svist
      Svist 14 January 2018 21: 20
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      Quote: Forever so
      pro, aphid, hemp and parachutist

      I know about aphids, “let her choke”, but there’s no one about the skydiver, will you tell me? smile