Delivery to BMPT Terminator troops will begin in March

Uralvagonzavod (UVZ, Rostec) plans in March to begin supplying the Russian Defense Ministry with support vehicles tanks (BMPT) "Terminator," the corporation said.

The execution of the state defense order goes. The start of the transfer is scheduled for March

- Said the source agency.

As previously reported, the military in 2018 should receive more than 10 BMPT Terminator.

The Terminator, which the Russian army will receive, will be at the nodes and assemblies of the main T-90A tank, the UVZ corporation said

BMPT "Terminator" is a multi-purpose, highly protected combat tracked fire support vehicle with powerful weapons, advanced fire control devices and high maneuverability. It is intended to suppress and destroy enemy tank-dangerous manpower, including those located in shelters. "Terminator" is capable of hitting lightly armored targets, tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, together with military air defense to fight with helicopters and low-flying low-speed enemy aircraft, reports Interfax-AVN.

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[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Only old people go into battle. BMPT "Terminator" at the exercises exercises "West -2017"

[210ox]

About twenty years ago, this machine was created. At last, it was decided to adopt the equipment

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Only old people go into battle. BMPT "Terminator" at the exercises exercises "West -2017"

[Lexus]

For a long time our people are gathering together. Kazakhstan has been operating the BMPT for 7 years. It seems that Algeria has concluded a contract for the acquisition of 300 pcs. BMPT-72.

[trakks50]

this is a man without dignity, you need fluff lightweight from an octopus of airborne forces of 125 mm and installation with a pair of paired arrows or willows from drones of bombs or missiles mounted on the back side of a tower type

[Starover_Z]

Plus off the Syrian operation! Not field tests, but participation in real hostilities prompted the MO to purchase "Terminators" for the army!

[zadorin1974]

How many more taunts from Taburetkin will emerge. And how many copies were broken on the site because the Terminator does not fit into the doctrine of the Russian Defense Ministry.

[activator]

Quote: zadorin1974

. And how many copies were broken on the site because the Terminator does not fit into the doctrine of the Russian Defense Ministry.

So yes, he himself participated on the side of the opponents of this pepelats. And even despite the fact that the Russian Federation recognized the need for this weapon, it is still tormented by doubts not even in terms of its use, but about its weapons. namely 30mm guns. Because the main task of the terminator is to shoot manpower, and such a caliber is probably redundant, plus a low rate of fire, my IMHO. That shilka copes with this task better, a smaller caliber of high rate of fire allows it to complete tasks that are beyond the power of the terminator cannons. That's why if the armament is shilka, and the armor of the tank . On this occasion, I always remember the video where the Apache shot Babakhs from the cannon through the IR sight, they simply had no chance at the end, one just sat down and began to wait for his fate, understanding that it was useless to run.

[activator]

Quote: activator

Apache fired from a cannon of the broads through the IR sight, they simply did not have a chance in

Damn Apache fluff is also 30 mm and bk 1200, but for some reason I thought that there was 20 mm with such bq, I dreamed of sholi

[Spec]

Quote: activator

Because the main task of the terminator is to shoot manpower, and such a caliber is probably redundant, plus a low rate of fire, my IMHO. That shilka copes with this task better, a smaller caliber of high rate of fire allows it to complete tasks that are beyond the power of the terminator cannons.

Living force, at the time of tank attacks on it, tends to hide behind various defensive structures, so here the excess caliber is inferior to the guarantee of the destruction of the enemy.

[zadorin1974]

The use of BMPT is calculated not as a separate unit, but together with the tank. Accordingly, if it is necessary to destroy the structure, they will use tank ammunition, if the infantry is chased through floors and bushes, 30mm is enough for the eyes.

[Spec]

The house is falling apart in a tank, and the barn will ventilate the BMP. The same duval can’t be smashed (with the Afghan experience), very viscous, but 30mm, or a pair of ATGM volleys, or the AGS line ... Ensure the tank passes and eliminates the ATGM threat to it. There are many options for solving problems, and in conjunction with tank-bmpt we get effective fire action over a larger area in a short period of time, in the case of extended defense in layers.

[NEXUS]

Quote: activator

still tormented by doubts, not even in terms of its use, but about its weapons. namely 30mm guns.

And you do not take modernization into account. Well, 30 mm guns will turn out to be insufficient, they will put 57 mm ... The same T-72 also did not become the first thing it is now. The Armata platform will go into the series, they will begin to put an era on it, with increased BC and we will be happy.
After all, this machine is interesting in that it organically fits into the tactics of modern military operations.

[activator]

Quote: NEXUS

And you do not take modernization into account. Well, 30 mm guns turn out to be insufficient, they put 57 mm ...

On the contrary, it seems to me that 30mm is redundant for shooting manpower, because for this the terminator was created, and the tank can handle the fortifications well. And why raise the caliber to 57 mm and higher? to create a nedotank and re-BMPT, a lot of grenade launchers. and little fortifications

[NEXUS]

Quote: activator

On the contrary, it seems to me that 30mm is redundant for shooting manpower, because for this the terminator was created, and the tank can handle the fortifications well. And why raise the caliber to 57 mm and higher? to create a nedotank and re-BMPT, a lot of grenade launchers. and little fortifications

You did not understand my idea ... the question is not what BMPT will then put on it, but in the modernization resource, which will bring the platform to a successful, combat-ready unit. And it doesn’t matter what they put there later, it’s important that they will work on and improve it. But under a lying stone, water does not flow. And to argue that it is better, 57 mm or 30 mm for the Terminator is now pointless, since this platform is only at the beginning of its army and combat life.

[activator]

Quote: NEXUS

, it is important that they will work on and improve it. But under a lying stone, water does not flow. And to argue that it is better, 57 mm or 30 mm for the Terminator is now pointless, since this platform is only at the beginning of its army and combat life.

That, but it’s only worth the money, and there’s still the question of spending money on equipment, not quite understanding why it is needed now and with vague prospects in the future, or to buy T 90 tanks with this money, the use of which is quite conscious and there aren’t enough either. In general, I’ve already fantasized more than once on the topic of armata, that if she had a 30mm cannon can be smaller in a module independent of the main caliber, and a grenade launcher with an anti-aircraft machine gun, then there would be no need to fence the garden around the BMPT. I think that in any case it would be cheaper than a separate car.

[DMB_95]

Quote: activator

On the contrary, it seems to me that 30mm is redundant for shooting manpower, because for this the terminator was created, and the tank can handle the fortifications well. And why raise the caliber to 57 mm and higher? to create a nedotank and re-BMPT, a lot of grenade launchers. and little fortifications

The main thing is that the BMPT will go to the troops as a production vehicle, and not as an exhibit for exhibitions. And modifications may be different.

[zadorin1974]

Dear DMB_95. I don’t want to agree with you here. Machines should be of the same type in parts — or the Zampotech and MTO should fall off their head! Well, the Activator’s two kopeks — in urban battles, tanks are not a panacea — when destroying firing points on floors, the Terminator will be more practical than two T 90.

[activator]

Quote: zadorin1974

! Well, to the Activator, two pennies — in urban battles, tanks are not a panacea — when destroying firing points on floors, the Terminator will be more practical than two T 90s.

Well, read my fantasies on the topic of Almaty. In general, initially I was a supporter of the terminator and in the same way claimed that working on the floors was the same, but knowledgeable and experienced people explained that a tank was needed to work on the floors with the ability to raise the gun 60-70 degrees.

[zadorin1974]

activator. Honestly, I’m not sure. If the group is accompanied by a tank, I don’t really want to be closer than 50 meters from this fool when he starts shooting the upper floors (and indeed shooting someone) for two reasons. The first is if you’ll be shocked. Secondly, when a tank landmine arrives, fragments of brick, the remains of panels, plates and just any debris fly off over fairly long distances (you can believe me). And no one does ambushes for a kilometer. Well, a tank without infantry support (especially in development) is simply the community of a three-seater mass grave with a bunch of scrap metal on average for four raccoons.

[Dreamboat]

Only he wanted to write: you can put 23 mm. guns, but in parts nothing more than 23mm. does not remain, Shilki brought out, Panzeri and Tunguska by 30 mm. ammunition.
So the technique runs the risk of being left without shells. A 30 mm. the ammunition is unified with infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers now ... It is more convenient in terms of supply at times!

[TolTolich]

Good afternoon!
I watched a "movie" about the "terminator", there is still a gun there like 12,7

[trakks50]

you .. solely .. that you can do this half with 30 guns and half with 57

[vlad66]

If there weren’t Syria, then it should have been invented, in real combat products are tested, rather than wooden shields at the training ground.

[KCA]

Desert coloring, probably from Syria or Algeria brought

[Chertt]

Quote: KCA

Desert coloring, probably from Syria or Algeria brought

Let's think together, from Syria or Algeria

[Spec]

They forgot about Kazakhstan.

[Magic archer]

We’ve tested it in Syria and made conclusions. And now to the troops. Everything is as it should be! It is in combat and not in field trials that the technology should be brought to mind!

[Zomanus]

Well it’s good that we’ve even made out now.
Yes, and understood where this machine can be used.
After all, in fact, this is a lightweight combat module,
set on the shoulder strap of a tank platform.
And there are similar modules for BTR / BMP.
I think that that's why they didn’t accept
this car. And just, maybe there weren’t free tank
platforms in such quantity

[max702]

Quote: Zomanus

And just, maybe there weren’t free tank
platforms in such quantity

C'mon ... Why, then, but we have a lot of this good, any of them, from the T-54 to the T-90 ...

[Grits]

And I think that they didn’t accept it because they were waiting for the appearance of such a thing on the basis of Armata TBMP (T-15 or Barberry, as you like). However, then they realized that it was still very long and troublesome to finish the T-15, and something similar was needed in the troops. Therefore, they decided cheaper

[aszzz888]

... I suspect that this machine will also have a "job" ... and it must deal with it at least "well" ...

[assa67]

10 pieces in total .... they’ll put them closer to the western borders ... let them fear, fear has big eyes, as they say,

[Hey]

As previously reported, the military in 2018 should receive more than 10 BMPT Terminator.

One BMPT per month is a mockery or ....

[vetlan19]

How about protection from drones?

[vetlan19]

Quote: MUD

One BMPT per month is a mockery or ....

It’s just that you don’t need to bother, is it burning somewhere?
It doesn’t burn, so it’s not tearing.
If you want to write our military doctrine, be in the right place.
From his sofa swamp you can’t see what an eagle soars in the sky.

[PalBor]

Quote: vetlan19

Quote: MUD

One BMPT per month is a mockery or ....

It’s just that you don’t need to bother, is it burning somewhere?
It doesn’t burn, so it’s not tearing.
If you want to write our military doctrine, be in the right place.
From his sofa swamp you can’t see what an eagle soars in the sky.

Zhirnenkie we have such eagles. Everything is spoiled from above and stink like carrion. Especially in a zoo called rights ........ you understand me correctly.

[cannabis]

Around 30 mm guns heaped up 30 tons of iron. Not too thick wrapper?

[axenm]

BMPT needed !!
But not in the current flawed version (it only indicated the direction of development and thanks for that already),
and in the right one - with a 57mm machine gun with programmable shells.

[Spec]

The development direction was designated "Viper", and the "Terminator" confirmed the correctness of this direction.

[Chichikov]

Yeah! And an ammunition load of 150 rounds, instead of 1500!

[tchoni]

The moral of this fable is TBMP T-15, judging by everything, it’s getting out too expensive or technically not perfect (and you wanted to deploy the karma tank forward - read all the chassis, you have to redo the entire parade) And, most likely both taken together. So they decided a hole In the armament system of motorized riflemen and tankers of different types, jack up an ersatz device. I will not be surprised if in the near future they introduce something like BMOT into the state of tank (or even some assault and obstacle) units.

[The Siberian barber]

Confuses quantity, already "more than 10 pieces."))
"Generously" saturate the army .. (
Although ... I forgot, the day is dumb .. ((

[Alexey-74]

I think if military experts adopted the BMPT, then it’s worth it, it’s been tested in Syria ... although I still don’t understand the role of this pepelats well, for example, in an offensive in which BMPs and armored personnel carriers and so on take part other means of defeating the infantry .... well, as they say, wait and see.

[Doliva63]

And where will they be shoved - in TR, MCP or in PT NAM? Or create separate companies of terminators?

[cobalt]

For me, first, equip assault sapper units and operational units of the Russian Guard, i.e. Those who have to fight in urban conditions.

[Gartny]

Today it is already outdated Harnessed sooooo long.

[_Jack_]

As previously reported, the military in 2018 should receive more than 10 BMPT Terminator.

More than 10 is 11? If BMPT really showed its exclusivity in Syria, then the MO ordered at least several hundred.

[The poor man]

And how good is "Terminator" in the fight against drones?

[trakks50]

still need a 120.125 mm gun at least for the trial series and everything will go ... well, there’s not enough power