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  1. +16
    9 January 2018 10: 00
    Only one thing proves: space for all is a complex and expensive task

    Commerce and competition are certainly needed - these are the engines of progress,
    but when new technologies appear and long-distance travels in space can be planned, many countries will forget about the differences and join forces.

    1. +18
      9 January 2018 10: 07
      It can be assumed that the investigation will result in a statement about the evil Russian hackers who broke the rocket and satellite. The CIA, the FBI and congressmen have not yet made their statements about "interference."
      1. +5
        9 January 2018 10: 10
        "the battle is not for glory, for the sake of life on Earth ..."
        dropped in response
        we will continue to be friends with partners
      2. +4
        9 January 2018 11: 02
        The satellite fell, it's Putin's fault))))
      3. +5
        9 January 2018 12: 27
        Quote: oleg-gr
        It can be assumed that the investigation will result in a statement about the evil Russian hackers who broke the rocket and satellite. The CIA, the FBI and congressmen have not yet made their statements about "interference."


        "News! Latest news about the satellite! Only with us! Only we can provide complete information about the size and number of scratches on the satellite! Several fingerprints with a Russian accent were found on the control codes of the satellite control management program! All details are detailed in the urgent report at the UN session ! Haley has already put on her makeup ... " wassat
      4. +3
        9 January 2018 18: 44
        Maybe another corporal will be awarded ... soldier
    2. +17
      9 January 2018 10: 33
      but who does the tongue turn to reproach us with joy at the death of the secret satellite of the Americans? go forest, furstein? This is a patriotic platform, not a MIR station!
      1. +9
        9 January 2018 12: 58
        Quote: Dimontius
        but who does the tongue turn to reproach us with joy at the death of the secret satellite of the Americans? go forest, furstein? This is a patriotic platform, not a MIR station!


        Yes that's right! winked I also became thoughtful - should I rejoice at the success of the Pentagon? Or our president, for example, if the test of the new ICBM of the Americans is unsuccessful, he will call Trump and cheer up - "Don’t be upset, you are still giving us ... next time .." fool Rejoicing at the failure of a potential adversary in the military field is the normal reaction of a citizen of his country! Otherwise, it is either a stupid person or a traitor. Another thing is if people die during these failures - it is always a tragedy in peacetime, but here is a piece of iron! And because in sports it’s a simple joy that the opponent turned out to be worse in something. hi
        1. +1
          9 January 2018 23: 47
          Zhelezyaka especially Military!
    3. +5
      9 January 2018 10: 54
      yes, new technologies ..... especially PR-technologies .... the work has not been done, but how beautiful it has not been done (the 1st stage has landed) .... the Roskosmos "effective managers" to study and study ....
      1. +16
        9 January 2018 11: 00
        Well, who was there applauding yesterday after the launch? Welcome to reality. Musk ignites.
        1. +3
          9 January 2018 11: 59
          The Mask step took off and sat down. And then "the sensor is incorrectly installed"
          1. +1
            10 January 2018 09: 30
            Quote: a.sirin
            The Mask step took off and sat down. And then "the sensor is incorrectly installed"

            First one. And the second bit the satellite. And Musk is not to blame here, he was not collecting, right? And how is it with us, so a screech to heaven: "That Roskosmos is to blame! No, personally Putin! He did not personally control every nut!"
        2. +3
          9 January 2018 15: 49
          Yesterday there was a notable squabble about this. I don’t even want to quote.
          In a nutshell: we have everything xy, they have everything ho.
        3. +3
          9 January 2018 16: 00
          Quote: figvam
          Well, who was there applauding yesterday after the launch? Welcome to reality. Musk ignites.

          Not only do our missiles fall with expensive satellites. It all reminds me of a war of deviation. Although it may be, the reason is simple, stupidly not calculated and not finalized.
          1. +2
            9 January 2018 21: 15
            And who ever said that he fell? Americans themselves? Ha, maybe he didn’t fall? Maybe he continues to fly in his own orbit and has already begun to carry out the task for which he was conceived? For some reason I think so. And after the cancellation of those ships that we had been designed to track the launches of American satellites, try to go now among the heap of piece of iron that fly now in near-Earth space.
          2. +2
            10 January 2018 00: 23
            Quote: NEXUS
            The reason is simple, stupidly not calculated and not finalized.

            Alexey, hi. You know very well that before you install anything on the spacecraft, this part is checked and double-checked a thousand times ...
            And then, that the satellite sank into the Atlantic, it can only be considered after the confirmation of our space control service ... And so, "surprise!" Is also possible. Remember how our satellite "came to life" and began to inspect the spacecraft in orbit ...
            Here it is, sometimes. But!
            1. +3
              10 January 2018 01: 13
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              Alexey, hi.

              Hello Sasha. hi
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              Remember how our satellite "came to life" and began to inspect the spacecraft in orbit ...
              Here it is, sometimes. But!

              Well, I'm not from harm, but from the hope that this is still not a surprise. All the same, according to our soul, this stray went into orbit.
    4. +4
      9 January 2018 18: 54
      Quote: bulvas
      Only one thing proves: space for all is a complex and expensive task

      Commerce and competition are certainly needed - these are the engines of progress,
      but when new technologies appear and long-distance travels in space can be planned, many countries will forget about the differences and join forces.

      what what what proves that the Americans brought the country to ruin !!! laughing laughing laughing
  2. +12
    9 January 2018 10: 00
    Well, not only our fall! Space is pretty risky! If only they didn’t refer to the glorious hand of the Kremlin and personally the GDP, it will become from our “partners”!
    1. +2
      9 January 2018 10: 24
      Quote: ydjin
      personally GDP

      Yeah, the guarantor personally, in overalls and with a mount climbed an amero-rocket and knocked down sensors. At night. laughing
  3. +16
    9 January 2018 10: 00
    This holiday will be in comments now. drinks
    1. +33
      9 January 2018 10: 04
      And you, apparently, mourning? Here it is, our "friend." Remember.
      1. +34
        9 January 2018 10: 06
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        This holiday will be in comments now. drinks


        So not we started it
        Short is your memory




        1. +6
          9 January 2018 10: 18
          Well, we have already discussed this topic with you a little earlier. And whoever needs it, let her gloat. wink
          1. +4
            9 January 2018 10: 25
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Well, we have already discussed this topic with you a little earlier. And whoever needs it, let her gloat. wink


            Wow, our well-wishers simply forgot how they tried to see bears and drunk men with balalaikas on every street in Russia

            Well, and much more, about which they were informed by the most truthful media in the world (for which Trump came up with a new name)
            1. +16
              9 January 2018 10: 28
              Russophobia has long become a trend in the West, so one should not be surprised that the Russians respond to the West with the same hot "love."
              1. +2
                9 January 2018 10: 29
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                Russophobia has long become a trend in the West, so one should not be surprised that the Russians respond to the West with the same hot "love."


                They believe that we started

                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                This holiday will be in comments now. drinks


                1. +7
                  9 January 2018 10: 32
                  Exactly . A purely Western approach: "We are not to blame, then they are to blame." Double standards are firmly rooted in the light arm of the Saxo-Saxon.
                  1. +4
                    9 January 2018 10: 32
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    Exactly . A purely Western approach: "We are not to blame, then they are to blame." Double standards are firmly rooted in the light arm of the Saxo-Saxon.


                    Well, to hell with them, they are not a decree for us
                    1. +4
                      9 January 2018 10: 37
                      Quote: bulvas
                      Well, to hell with them, they are not a decree for us

                      Indeed, that infuriates them and brings them to white heat. wink
                  2. 0
                    9 January 2018 11: 16
                    Just like in Russia. We also try to find State Department agents everywhere. What did you say about double standards lol
        2. +2
          9 January 2018 10: 32
          Quote: bulvas
          Short is your memory

          It’s more correct to say electoral Yes
      2. 0
        9 January 2018 12: 04
        Quote: Muvka
        And you, apparently, mourning? Here it is, our "friend." Remember.

        And for me on the drum. tongue
    2. +5
      9 January 2018 10: 14
      Yes, the holiday is not noticeable especially ...
      1. +12
        9 January 2018 10: 33
        You know, sometimes, thanks to commentators like Aaron, I don’t want to read the comments! Very similar to comments from other pages from sources from neighboring countries. And then something about the love of a neighbor begins to cry. You are waiting for some serious reasoning, analysis, conclusions, and dirt like him is being bred. Well, create a group on the expanses of the web for this, name it accordingly, and enjoy your health! There will not be a rebound from the evil ones! And here respect decency!
    3. +1
      9 January 2018 10: 26
      Don’t worry, fans, barrels of guano will roll up in the evening, and a great sketch will begin laughing
      1. 0
        9 January 2018 11: 16
        Jump from anger.
    4. +4
      9 January 2018 10: 47
      Yes, there is no holiday, this is the first impression. The question is different - which carrier will their satellites trust now, I’m talking about all the states.
      1. +5
        9 January 2018 11: 00
        The question is different - which carrier will their satellites trust now, I’m talking about all the states.


        Yes to anyone. The technical risk is the same. Choose wisely a reliable insurer, not a piece of iron.
        1. +2
          9 January 2018 11: 19
          This must be proved to those whose satellites are lost. I think the states will now trust us, although the devil knows him - the situation at the moment is a stalemate - a fact.
    5. +2
      9 January 2018 10: 52
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      This holiday will be in comments now. drinks

      Glory to the Russian hackers!
    6. +6
      9 January 2018 10: 54
      The shrill joy from other people's failures happens among Jews and Ukrainians but not in Russia.
      1. +1
        9 January 2018 11: 09
        The shrill joy of other people's failures happens among Jews and Ukrainians, but not in Russia. Mask's failure speaks of a problem in the creation of reusable rockets. A terrible nightmare failure - Shuttles.
        1. +1
          9 January 2018 20: 15
          "Failure Mask talks about the problem in creating reusable rockets." And what kind of problem is this with the creation of reusable missiles? - The missile fulfilled its function, the first stage landed safely - the problem is in the undocking unit. His superheavy rocket is already on the launch pad, and ours will be on the desk, according to the most optimistic estimates, only in 10 years.
    7. +9
      9 January 2018 11: 01
      The Russian people have wise sayings ... One of them is "What you sow, you will reap!" I hope the wise Jewish people do not need to decipher this saying .... Or is it needed? laughing soldier
    8. +1
      9 January 2018 13: 00
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      This holiday will be in comments now. drinks


      mind you first suggested it! feel and we just poured ... drinks laughing
  4. +9
    9 January 2018 10: 01
    ... there is enough space in the ocean for Merikatos’s satellites ... laughing
  5. +9
    9 January 2018 10: 01
    They ate the truth, it’s a balm for the soul, but they can also specifically say that it has fallen, but in fact, they brought something secret .....
    1. +5
      9 January 2018 10: 02
      Quote: q75agent
      then a balm for the soul
      Why balm? Are you glad that the cow died at the neighbor?
      1. +16
        9 January 2018 10: 12
        swim finely, if your joy is the death of an animal from a neighbor, then you are probably a flayer? I am glad that several billion have disappeared from the mattresses and that an object that poses a certain threat to the interests of the Russian Federation will not be able to fulfill its functions hi
        1. +4
          9 January 2018 10: 27
          Quote: q75agent
          if you have joy this is the death of an animal from a neighbor
          Do you understand me.
          Quote: q75agent
          I am glad that several billion have disappeared from the mattresses and that an object that poses a certain threat to the interests of the Russian Federation will not be able to fulfill its functions
          I’m used to rejoice at the successes of my country, but do not gloat over the failures of others.
          1. +4
            9 January 2018 10: 30
            each has its own shortcomings wink hi
      2. +9
        9 January 2018 10: 29
        A deadly enemy who repeatedly claims to be ready to kill you and your family.
        Neighbor, yeah.
        1. +3
          9 January 2018 10: 33
          Quote: Mestny
          A deadly enemy who repeatedly claims to be ready to kill you and your family.
          Hmm, and our beloved president always calls them "respected partners", "American friends", "colleagues." By the way, the daughter of our Foreign Minister Lavrov spent most of her life in the United States and has an American education. Like many other children of ministers and representatives of large Russian business close to the president.
          1. +4
            9 January 2018 10: 58
            And where does this daughter live now? Negotiate already.
          2. +12
            9 January 2018 11: 26
            My daughter, as the daughters of the vast majority of Russian citizens, does not live in the United States.
            And they are preparing to kill me. And generally us.
            So do I really not have the right to even calmly express satisfaction with the enemy’s failure, albeit insignificant?
          3. +3
            9 January 2018 12: 36
            Quote: Greenwood
            Hmm, and our beloved president always calls them "respected partners", "American friends", "colleagues."

            [/ b] Diplomacy [b], heard, not, for such a squiggle? wink
          4. +3
            9 January 2018 12: 44
            Hmm, and our beloved president always calls them "respected partners", "American friends", "colleagues."

            however, diplomacy request sometimes it’s better to step aside so that a “colleague” who has sat down in a puddle is better visible ... and the appeal - “p (artne) ry”, depending on the context, may sound differently feel
          5. +2
            9 January 2018 13: 58
            Quote: Greenwood
            By the way, the daughter of our Foreign Minister Lavrov has lived in the United States most of her life, has an American education

            By the way, Peter I sent the children of the boyars to study over the hill and then they fought if they did not study well, and he himself studied the case not at Moscow State University. So what? tongue
            1. +3
              9 January 2018 16: 11
              Quote: kirgiz58
              Quote: Greenwood
              By the way, the daughter of our Foreign Minister Lavrov has lived in the United States most of her life, has an American education

              By the way, Peter I sent the children of the boyars to study over the hill and then they fought if they did not study well, and he himself studied the case not at Moscow State University. So what? tongue

              Recently, I have been very wary of such “facts.” The realization that German historians are reporting this story to us does not contribute.
        2. +2
          9 January 2018 12: 44
          I agree. SGA is not a neighbor. A sane economy cannot have in the top three threats the neighboring economy (which does not spread to everything else without need military contingent around the world).
      3. +3
        9 January 2018 11: 19
        Of course people rejoice. How good it is when someone else x ..... in laughing
      4. 0
        9 January 2018 13: 02
        Quote: Greenwood
        Quote: q75agent
        then a balm for the soul
        Why balm? Are you glad that the cow died at the neighbor?


        then it’s more likely that I didn’t suffer for a long time ... I didn’t even “get sick”feel
      5. +2
        9 January 2018 16: 06
        Uh, no countryman, not a cow died. The puppy of the Rottweiler, whom the neighbor dragged on us, died. Not a bit of regret about this will be
    2. +6
      9 January 2018 10: 03
      I believe countries like Russia can track what really happened. wink
    3. +2
      9 January 2018 10: 15
      Several radio-optical observation stations, including floating ones, so that’s the norm.
  6. +3
    9 January 2018 10: 04
    Technique is technique. But, soon they will find the Russian "trace"!
    1. 0
      9 January 2018 10: 30
      Golden words!
      It remains to learn how to pronounce them in similar accidents with us.
  7. +16
    9 January 2018 10: 05
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    This holiday will be in comments now.

    The holiday will be when Syrian air defense will fill up your plane and preferably with video and photo of the wreckage and a pilot with a fingal under his eye wink bully
    1. +3
      9 January 2018 10: 08
      By the way they already write in the media that this happened am Israel on Tuesday morning launched three missile strikes at military facilities located in the Al-Katif region near Damascus.
    2. +1
      9 January 2018 12: 42
      Preferably fu 35.
    3. +2
      9 January 2018 16: 20
      Quote: q75agent
      The holiday will be when Syrian air defense will fill up your plane and preferably with video and photo of the wreckage and a pilot with a fingal under his eye

      I'm afraid that Fingal will not be able to demonstrate. The basis of Syria's air defense is our technology, it is unlikely that the pilot will survive, unless he shoots in advance
  8. +4
    9 January 2018 10: 08
    Are you kidding. It’s our rockets flying, tied up with electrical tape, and at the light of democracy, satellites, by the will of voters, are in orbit.
  9. +3
    9 January 2018 10: 09
    Now the Warrior Wow will appear and explain everything.
    1. +14
      9 January 2018 10: 15
      I already took all the blame (in a post about the Angara).
      Mask jinxed yesterday in his comments. Already called him, apologized. crying
      1. +5
        9 January 2018 10: 59
        Quote: voyaka uh
        I already took all the blame (in a post about the Angara).

        In vain, these are Russian hackers overdone feel
        drinks
      2. +1
        9 January 2018 12: 48
        Quote: voyaka uh
        I already took all the blame (in a post about the Angara).
        Mask jinxed yesterday in his comments. Already called him, apologized.

        What a cunning you are! The call will not be enough here, it’s a very serious matter, so my friend, get ready for the trip[/ b] How to activate the amulet of the red thread [b] According to the adherents of Kabbalah, who bring its essence and secrets to the masses, it is not enough to take the red thread from any ball, weave it on your own or buy an ordinary red lace to tie your wrist so that it can gain strength and begin to act for good. The red thread from Jerusalem has special properties: it is a powerful amulet, preserving health and affecting personal life, bringing favor to fate and success in various fields. It is believed that one of the important details in the ceremony of tying the thread is the choice of a congenial person who helps to make seven knots on it. He should be absolutely sincere with you and wish you only good, he should know that his role in the ritual is great and be aware that during the creation of each nodule you need with all your heart to want your wishes to be fulfilled. As a rule, this is the closest friend or relative, often a mother. By the way, babies who are not yet a year old, mothers also tie a red thread. [Quote] [/ quote] wink
      3. +1
        9 January 2018 13: 06
        Quote: voyaka uh
        I already took all the blame (in a post about the Angara).
        Mask jinxed yesterday in his comments. Already called him, apologized. crying


        MO expressed gratitude to you and congratulated you on the assignment of an extraordinary rank wassat all expenses incurred by you for intercity will be surely reimbursed drinks
  10. +7
    9 January 2018 10: 11
    Looks like Putin personally shot down a slingshot.
  11. +4
    9 January 2018 10: 11
    SpaceX РЅРµ сумелР° РІС‹ весС, РЁ РЅР ° РѕСЂР ± РёС, Сѓ СЃРµРєСЂРµС‚РЅС <Р№ СЃРїССРРСРЁРє Zuma
    They have one indisputable advantage, they can at any time declare that there is "secret information" that Russia is to blame
  12. +10
    9 January 2018 10: 13
    Where are the calls to dismiss Ilona Mask?
    Where is the moaning about the degradation of space in the United States?
    Where are the worries about employee salaries?
    1. +7
      9 January 2018 10: 15
      It is a pity here for our sufferers in this thread about Rogozin to joke is not an option.
    2. +14
      9 January 2018 10: 35
      Quote: ADmA_RUS
      Where are the calls to dismiss Ilona Mask?

      I urge to dismiss Ilona Mask !!! am
      Quote: ADmA_RUS
      Where is the moaning about the degradation of space in the United States?

      Oh, horror, how the US space industry has degraded !!! crying
      Quote: ADmA_RUS
      Where are the worries about employee salaries?

      When will they begin to pay employees normally ?! am And yes, instead of this satellite, you could build 100500 kindergartens and hospitals somewhere in Oregon, and spend cheap gas to remote corners of the American nation. What is it like for American retirees ?! In short, the damned Republicans brought the country ... wassat
  13. +6
    9 January 2018 10: 13
    Quote: bulvas
    but when new technologies appear and it will be possible to plan long-distance travels in space,

    What a trip !? To sssanoi Mars at least a year to fly ....
    1. +1
      9 January 2018 13: 10
      Quote: Absurdidat
      Quote: bulvas
      but when new technologies appear and it will be possible to plan long-distance travels in space,

      What a trip !? To sssanoi Mars at least a year to fly ....


      Well, why do we need it, pissed? belay By the way, when will drivers on the highway begin to punish this? get to Mars already ... wassat
  14. +5
    9 January 2018 10: 16
    That's what happened ... How many enthusiasms here were about the Falcons ... Just like ours are falling ...
  15. 0
    9 January 2018 10: 20
    Yes, they specifically said so that they would relax.
    1. +2
      9 January 2018 10: 32
      Yes it’s over. Well, it cannot be that the United States has - and something went wrong.
      All this is Trump's Tricky Plan.
  16. +5
    9 January 2018 10: 24
    This GDP or Russian hackers are to blame ???
    Seriously, who should be happy for what?
    Like right now, a parade of inadequacies will begin?
  17. +8
    9 January 2018 10: 28
    At the moment, no signs of sabotage or other interference have been established

    Come on! Can not be! What's wrong?! But what about Russian hackers ?! But what about the Great and Terrible Putin ?! Where are the bald accusations ?! Where are the new sanctions ?!
    Absolutely striped dogs do not pull service !!! Relaxed .....
  18. +4
    9 January 2018 10: 38
    SpaceX РЅРµ сумелР° РІС‹ весС, РЁ РЅР ° РѕСЂР ± РёС, Сѓ СЃРµРєСЂРµС‚РЅС <Р№ СЃРїССРРСРЁРє Zuma

    Is this something?
    1. +4
      9 January 2018 11: 33
      this is the filling of the satellite ... was winked
  19. +8
    9 January 2018 10: 42
    Lost Communication with Zuma Secret Satellite Launched on Sunday for US Government on SpaceX's Falcon 9 Booster Lost

    That's why he is secret - he does not want to share secrets with anyone. request
  20. 0
    9 January 2018 10: 46
    Well, everything is fine .. Not only Russian overclocking blocks fall in the wrong places.
  21. +9
    9 January 2018 10: 52
    I do not feel any special enthusiasm, but I honestly admit that there is a sense of inner satisfaction, even so it’s not
    commercial iron was rolled up, and a military satellite, which they probably planned to use against Russia.
    1. +2
      9 January 2018 11: 53
      I agree, absolutely! This news, does not cause puppy delight, but no one fell into depression, of those present here, probably))
  22. +5
    9 January 2018 10: 55
    Just yesterday, here about a record low accident rate, the Falcon 9 was flooded.
    1. 0
      9 January 2018 11: 38
      Which is associated exclusively with a relatively small number of starts of this system in general.
      1. 0
        9 January 2018 11: 43
        The largest launch vehicle in the past year.
  23. +3
    9 January 2018 11: 06
    The catastrophe of the military apparatus is a completely moral reason for gloating and spiritual satisfaction ..
  24. +3
    9 January 2018 11: 14
    This is all fake !!! Their companion is invisible with the latest super-duper stealth technologies !!! Only a device for its detection has not yet been invented!
    1. 0
      9 January 2018 11: 44
      The funniest thing about the US is the stealth satellite program
      1. +2
        9 January 2018 13: 19
        Quote: BlackMokona
        The funniest thing about the US is the stealth satellite program


        really, funny ... but our men don’t know ... (c)
    2. +3
      9 January 2018 13: 20
      Where is the information about "invisible satellites with the latest super-duper stealth technologies." At the end of the 80s, the USSR commissioned the Don2N radar (Moscow Region near Khotkovo). The Americans were offered in space to release an object for detection. Those did. Our radar detected 3 metal balls 15, 10 and 5 cm in diameter, the Americans were told. The Americans fainted. There is still no stealth technology in outer space, most likely due to the fact that the satellite owners themselves may lose contact with their device.
      1. +1
        9 January 2018 19: 03
        Sorry, next time I will make a postscript - "joke"
  25. +5
    9 January 2018 11: 32
    "Could not separate from the second stage, most likely, he broke or fell into the sea"

    They sold to the Chinese and didn’t launch anything .... besides the "sandbags" laughing
  26. +1
    9 January 2018 11: 33
    And I think the regular SpaceX chaplain used a Chinese brush when sprayed.
  27. +2
    9 January 2018 11: 39
    Quote: figvam
    Well, who was there applauding yesterday after the launch? Welcome to reality. Musk ignites.

    ----------------------------------
    So that they do not say there, so far the cosmos is weakly commercializable in such a way that the private trader launches complex systems. And I speak in this case about us too. Of course, it would be possible to tear a button accordion that a horse has died from a neighbor, but there is no need to gloat over every occasion and failure of the other side.
  28. +2
    9 January 2018 11: 47
    military and secret satellite ...
    what the lovers of watching satellites write:
    Zuma 895 x 905 km
    1 70000U 18999A 18008.04166667 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 09
    2 70000 050.0006 016.6385 0006870 048.9951 328.2490 13.98210309 00
    Zuma 995 x 1005 km
    1 70001U 18999A 18008.04166667 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 00
    2 70001 050.0003 016.6517 0006777 048.9870 328.8923 13.69880760 00
    If correct, this means Zuma might become observable in the N hemisphere about a
    week from now.
    and another note is not the separation of the satellite does not automatically mean the fault of launching:
    http://www.interfax.ru/world/384098
  29. +3
    9 January 2018 11: 50
    It was such a perfect satellite that it was marked "Destroy before use!"
  30. +3
    9 January 2018 12: 07
    In reality, this is normal - everything falls.
    But they worsened the statistics for themselves, now it is the same as ours and the Chinese. bully
    1. +1
      9 January 2018 20: 19
      No, they didn’t spoil it, insurance is less and the price of launching into orbit is the lowest - there will be a lot of customers as before.
  31. +1
    9 January 2018 12: 14
    Communication with the secret satellite Zuma, launched on Sunday in the interests of the US government on the SpaceX Falcon 9 launch vehicle, has been lost, the Wall Street Journal reported to RIA Novosti.

    Everything is fine. Everything works.
    https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/9/16866806/spacex
    -zuma-mission-failure-northrop-grumman-classified
    -falcon-9-rocket
    1. +2
      9 January 2018 13: 15
      Quote: professor
      Communication with the secret satellite Zuma, launched on Sunday in the interests of the US government on the SpaceX Falcon 9 launch vehicle, has been lost, the Wall Street Journal reported to RIA Novosti.

      Everything is fine. Everything works.
      https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/9/16866806/spacex
      -zuma-mission-failure-northrop-grumman-classified
      -falcon-9-rocket

      Israeli propagandists in their repertoire ...
      Quote from the article at the link:
      "So what actually happened? No one is saying for certain."
      Translated into Hebrew, and then into Russian, in the words "coolant" means:
      "Everything is fine. Everything works." lol
      Maybe I took this phrase out of context?
      then the final paragraph of the article:
      "But since Zuma is a classified mission, it seems doubtful we'll get a straight answer. It's possible that there's a dead government satellite in orbit right now, but it seems likely it succumbed to Earth's atmosphere over the weekend." ...
      “But since Zuma is a secret mission, it seems doubtful that we will get a direct answer. It is possible that there is now a dead government satellite in orbit, but it seems that it entered the Earth’s atmosphere last weekend.”
      Well - once again, an example to anyone - any affirmation of personalities from the Middle East must either be double-checked or ignored.

      The only thing in the informative article: it is discussed who is to blame for not separating the satellite from the 2nd stage: Space X or Northrop Grumman
      1. 0
        9 January 2018 15: 36
        Quote: axxenm
        Translated into Hebrew, and then into Russian, in the words "coolant" means:

        Young man, you read the whole article, and do not quote individual paragraphs. What is SpaceX writing about the launch? wink

        Right.
        When reached for comment, SpaceX said that the Falcon 9 rocket, which carried Zuma to orbit, performed as it was supposed to. “We do not comment on missions of this nature; but as of right now reviews of the data indicate Falcon 9 performed nominally, ”a SpaceX spokesperson told The Verge.

        Translate to you what means "performed as it was supposed to" Or do you manage it yourself? lol
        1. +2
          9 January 2018 16: 14
          Quote: professor

          Young man, you read the whole article, and do not quote individual paragraphs. What is SpaceX writing about the launch? wink

          Child, do not quote one phrase (interpretation of what came from a commercial organization. Interested in your PR), but read the entire article.,
          I did this and highlighted the key points - the result:
          write:
          Quote: professor
          Lost contact with Zuma’s secret satellite launched on Sunday for the US government on SpaceX’s Falcon 9 booster,

          Everything is fine. Everything works.

          maybe either the one who cannot read aglitsky can, or the inept roguish propagandist.
          1. 0
            9 January 2018 16: 45
            For those who in the tank I repeat the statement of Space X:
            When reached for comment, SpaceX said that the Falcon 9 rocket, which carried Zuma to orbit, performed as it was supposed to. “We do not comment on missions of this nature; but as of right now reviews of the data indicate Falcon 9 performed nominally, ”a SpaceX spokesperson told The Verge.
            A curtain. fellow
            1. +2
              9 January 2018 17: 11
              PS
              Summarize. Of all the launch participants (SpaceX, Northrop Grumman. US government), so far only SpaceX has made an official statement.
              The Falcon 9 rocket, which carried Zuma to orbit, performed as it was supposed to. “We do not comment on missions of this nature; but as of right now reviews of the data indicate Falcon 9 performed nominally"
              Everything else is blah blah blah from journalists and commentators from the abundance of arguments turning to the individual in the first comment.
              1. 0
                9 January 2018 20: 38
                There would be a link to Channel One, and blah blah of journalists would have been enough.
    2. 0
      9 January 2018 14: 19
      dream, suddenly an Angolan miracle will happen))
  32. 0
    9 January 2018 12: 39
    They bought their Chinese stuffing all the brains (those that were from the USSR lured) in retirement already. laughing
  33. +3
    9 January 2018 12: 49
    Judging by the fact that the device could not separate in time from the second stage and crashed into the ocean, we can assume that it was a secret submarine laughing laughing
  34. +3
    9 January 2018 12: 52
    And yet, yes, given that the cost of the satellite, manufactured by Northrop Grumman, amounted to several billion dollars, it cannot be excluded and a banal cut, they just launched a blank laughing laughing laughing
  35. +3
    9 January 2018 12: 58
    I didn’t read all the comments ..... exactly the secret satellite was lost (destroyed) or this info for "artiodactyls" as moral satisfaction, but in fact the satellite is already successfully functioning. Is there any confirmation besides the newspaper of Ova?
    1. 0
      10 January 2018 00: 31
      He did NOT fall into the ocean. He was put into orbit. But it is not clear: in normal mode or in emergency.
      1. +1
        10 January 2018 09: 50
        Phrase
        "Could not separate from the second stage, most likely, he broke or fell into the sea"
        precisely excludes the regular mode.
        At the same time, no loss of satellite is claimed.
        Our, imagining themselves patriots, in the comments are already messing about the loss (destruction) of the satellite.
        1. +1
          10 January 2018 12: 55
          The trick is that Zuma managed to get the catalog number of the satellites.
          So it was recorded that he was in space in a certain orbit.
          But the catalog also lists "dead" satellites (until they fall).
          That is, the catalog does not guarantee that it is serviceable. belay
          In any case, as it turned out, SpaceX is not to blame.
          Both stages of the rocket worked normally. Couldn't work
          payload adapter (Northrop design payload separator)
    2. 0
      10 January 2018 09: 29
      Ask the Pentagon, buddy.
  36. +1
    9 January 2018 13: 19
    Straight balm on the heart: not only do we drop rockets into the ocean. Interestingly, and their missiles, too, worshipers consecrate as we have?
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  38. +2
    9 January 2018 18: 47
    With all this, nowhere is it said that the first stage was reused. The system is then positioned as reusable, and steps launch new ones. How much can you store them.
    1. +3
      9 January 2018 20: 23
      Quote: Tarhun
      How much can you store them.

      until the next Amer bubble bursts in the form of the "genius" of the slug !!! wink Yes wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    2. 0
      9 January 2018 23: 54
      "With all this, nowhere is it said that the first stage was reused" ///

      Used 5 times already. Everything is successful.
  39. +2
    9 January 2018 20: 05
    How so Ilosha? Really and at you sensors began to mount incorrectly? Or did Chinese electronics fail? Although there is nothing to be guessed, now our friends from the land of "Israel" will appear and convince that Musk has nothing to do with it, he is still a genius and "our everything", and Roscosmos is before him ....
    1. +1
      9 January 2018 20: 20
      The next launch at Roscosmos is betting whether it will withdraw or not.
  40. +1
    9 January 2018 20: 30
    read all the comments. It’s kind of rotten among the defenders of the stronghold of Mask, and yesterday it was like talking, right where there ... Which once again proves the topicality of Russian folk wisdom (in all aspects) and the complexity of space exploration by any country.
  41. +1
    9 January 2018 23: 13
    Found in orbit high enough for a quick descent ... USA 280 NORAD ID: 43098
    Int'l Code: 2018-001A
    At the moment, Zuma is not visible from the Northern hemisphere because all passes are in daylight or earth shadow. This will change 1-2 weeks from now, depending on the exact orbital altitude. After 1-2 weeks in sowing. the hemisphere will be visible. Perhaps the rumors that the military screwed up by insisting on their traditional knot for docking military satellites (and not used by Mask!) Are true and their knot did not separate the payload ... We will observe. Yes
  42. +1
    9 January 2018 23: 38
    It seems they found the guilty.
    The device responsible for separating the satellite from the second stage (adapter) was manufactured by Norton Gruman, and not Space X. Like the head rocket fairing.
    Normally, Space X used its devices and fairings.
    1. +2
      9 January 2018 23: 53
      Photos from the plane and the land over Sudan show the regular termination of the second-stage engine, purging and twisting.
      1. 0
        10 January 2018 00: 28
        Yes thank you. I have already read that the satellite has not yet fallen and is hanging in orbits somewhere.
        Only incomprehensible, full-time orbits or emergency.
      2. 0
        10 January 2018 00: 48
        Here, came across this:
        All the SpaceX launches first reached a S2 stable orbit before satellite release.
        If Zuma suffered separation failure, surly mission control would leave them longer in orbit to try and fix the problem and not immediately de-orbit both

        As if, if the satellite could not immediately separate from the 2nd stage, a second attempt is given.
        And the second stage went into orbit. So there is some chance ...
        1. +1
          10 January 2018 09: 24
          Hope and wait, warrior.
        2. +1
          10 January 2018 15: 19
          Apogee 900+ km, slightly higher than estimated. As usual for such objects, orbit parameters are not given.
  43. +1
    10 January 2018 09: 22
    Nice little thing. As a New Year's gift to the whole world.

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