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Ukrainian complex "Thunder-2" will not be supplied to the APU

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The “Thunder-2” missile system, developed in Ukraine and about which the Ukrainian mass media trumpeted the world, is not intended for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, said Sergey Zgurets, director of Defense Express, an information and consulting company, in an interview with Apostrof.


According to him, the armament was created on the order of one of the Middle Eastern countries.

Ukrainian complex "Thunder-2" will not be supplied to the APU


But it significantly reduces the financial and technological risks associated with the development of this weapons, which is necessary, actually, and Ukraine
- he said.

Zgurets noted that later, on the basis of the Thunder-2 complex, another one could be developed, already for the APU. The expert explained that, according to the calculations of the military, successful tests and deliveries of the party for the Middle Eastern customer will significantly reduce the cost of weapons refinement for Ukraine.

However, even the version for the Middle Eastern customer is still far from the full-scale tests of the “Thunder-2”. According to the representative of the company Defense Express, now checking the complex is at a very early stage, one of the engine stages is being tested. More or less extensive trials can begin only in two years.

At the manufacturers request, the launcher provides for the transportation and launch of two ground-to-ground missiles. "Thunder-2" will be able to hit targets at a distance of 280 kilometers. The design bureau "Yuzhnoye" is developing the operational-tactical missile complex "Grom" based on a solid-propellant ballistic missile.
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  1. newcomer
    newcomer 8 January 2018 19: 57
    18
    this was to be expected_ the same story as with the “stronghold”, almost the same.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 8 January 2018 20: 05
      10
      "about which the Ukrainian media trumpeted the whole world." As always. There is a lot of noise, but the reality is completely different.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 8 January 2018 20: 08
        14
        as they say: a good show is more expensive than money. and live on the same show-offs. realities do not interest them.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 8 January 2018 20: 12
          10
          By the way, why "Thunder-2"? In the original "Grim-2" smile
          1. LeonidL
            LeonidL 8 January 2018 20: 22
            +8
            I mean, well-made cardboard No. 2?
            1. drunkram
              drunkram 8 January 2018 21: 53
              +3
              In the sense of an OTRK with point-u-based missiles, from which people already suffered in the explosion of one of the engines that tried to pull out the point-u from the rocket, here is the analogy not with an ololot but with a mortar hammer
              1. Equalized
                Equalized 10 January 2018 09: 53
                0
                For starters, you would understand the materiel before writing nonsense about 9М79.
                At "Thunder" the engine weighs a ton more than the fully operational alert point-y.
                “Thunder” has an engine made of composite thread using the Cocoon technology, while 9М79 has an engine made of metal. Like the Iskander. In fact, the Ukrainian engine is more advanced technologically.

                It PHYSICALLY cannot be from the "Point" in any way. Starting with dimensions and ending with manufacturing technology.

                The fact that he exploded on tests is generally the norm, then they are TESTS. If I were you, I would be ashamed, not like a man, to gossip on the Internet without going into the essence of the matter and breed snot and false information.
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 8 January 2018 20: 13
          11
          A good show is good when there is someone to take on it!
          Hello colleagues!
          I am not surprised by the boltology of dill, it surprises me how they are conducted on it!
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 8 January 2018 20: 18
            10
            Hello Victor. of that and salt_ they are sure that the whole world is being waged on them. it's funny. but they truly believe in it. Example: Today I read on military materials the interview of a former Finnish officer who served on the Buka. they say, poor things, ukrzoldatn could bring down a Boeing by mistake.
            1. LeonidL
              LeonidL 8 January 2018 20: 24
              +6
              The error is ukrozoldaten - this is no longer an exception, but a rule.
            2. rocket757
              rocket757 8 January 2018 22: 03
              +5
              Hi Garik. By mistake, how? I know Buka, dropping a boot on the remote control, or splashing coffee / torches, you won’t launch a rocket !!! I have already proved to everyone who is free-democratic-minded on the fingers that the civilian side, in that situation, was determined at a time !!! Of course, if in the "cockpit" sat the RACKER, not the DLB. They lost this battle ... but anyway, their GDP is to blame ???
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 8 January 2018 20: 55
            +5
            Quote: rocket757
            A good show is good when there is someone to take on him

            the whole country has believed everything since 91
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              1. LSA57
                LSA57 8 January 2018 21: 31
                10
                Quote: lexus
                Already not the whole. And not a country at all, but a madhouse.

                Well, how much is left, still not a little)
                found in another discussion
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 8 January 2018 21: 51
                  +2
                  Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! good
            2. rocket757
              rocket757 8 January 2018 22: 09
              +6
              I agree to 101%! Bred, bred and will breed further! Entire countries, peoples, but what is there, a whole planet, for God knows how many centuries!
              Here, at least on the same rake many times do not step. I lie to my ego, I don’t step on many times, but all the same, I’m getting around the rake, it’s probably not always possible for anyone !!!
      2. 210ox
        210ox 8 January 2018 20: 26
        +5
        They talked about this OTRK about five years ago. So I'm not surprised.
        Quote: oleg-gr
        "about which the Ukrainian media trumpeted the whole world." As always. There is a lot of noise, but the reality is completely different.
      3. LSA57
        LSA57 8 January 2018 20: 54
        +4
        Quote: oleg-gr
        As always. There is a lot of noise, but the reality is completely different.

        Well, do not tell. look at the project

        and this went to the troops
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          1. LSA57
            LSA57 8 January 2018 21: 38
            +3
            Quote: lexus
            And here is the General Designer.

            here is another original idea

            and this is what went to the troops

            and here's another ....
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          2. assa67
            assa67 8 January 2018 22: 03
            +6
            laughing good ... funny .... took advantage in the comment hi
            1. The comment was deleted.
              1. assa67
                assa67 8 January 2018 22: 56
                +7
                but forgot about the evil squirrel that doesn’t leave them? laughing
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                  1. assa67
                    assa67 8 January 2018 23: 20
                    +7
                    belay they also began to grow a squirrel for intimidation of miners! ??? .... or is it a parsley snack? laughing
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 8 January 2018 23: 35
                      +2
                      Quote: assa67
                      they also began to grow a squirrel for intimidation of miners! ??? .... or is it a parsley snack?

                      how do you like that?
                      1. assa67
                        assa67 9 January 2018 12: 07
                        +5
                        this is a little squirrel from Victory Park in Donetsk yes
                    2. LSA57
                      LSA57 8 January 2018 23: 41
                      +3
                      Quote: assa67
                      they also began to grow a squirrel for intimidation of miners! ??? .... or is it a parsley snack?

                      there are also speakers
                    3. Lexus
                      Lexus 9 January 2018 00: 16
                      +2
                      or is it a parsley snack?

                      This is the unchanged second number of the "crew" of the "name tank" laughing laughing laughing
              2. LSA57
                LSA57 8 January 2018 23: 22
                +5
                Quote: lexus
                Selyuksky greasy genius - he is!

                this is not a genius yet, geniuses here

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                2. Kerensky
                  Kerensky 9 January 2018 05: 57
                  +1
                  this is not a genius yet, geniuses here

                  And they are right, it is possible ... But it is beyond the scope of the news.
                  Makovetsky, the book "Look at the root", there is a little mind ...
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 8 January 2018 20: 16
      +4
      And who knows what will happen to Ukraine in two years? belay
      1. LeonidL
        LeonidL 8 January 2018 20: 24
        +4
        What is Ukraine?
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 8 January 2018 20: 59
          +5
          Quote: LeonidL
          What is Ukraine?

          did not see??? this
          and it
          1. Smog
            Smog 8 January 2018 23: 22
            +5
            Quote: LSA57
            Quote: LeonidL
            What is Ukraine? Https: //topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2018-01/1
            515434421_1454898301_97632799_04p1260401.jpg
            did not see??? this

            And not only
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 8 January 2018 23: 37
              +2
              Quote: Smog
              And not only

              laughing I exhibited this 2 times, deleted laughing
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 9 January 2018 00: 27
                +2
                I am also surprised. Sometimes quite decent and harmless things are cut out. We have to correct.
      2. newcomer
        newcomer 8 January 2018 20: 27
        +5
        who knows, who knows. personally, I’m not even sure that there will be chesney in a week. all too boils and ingredients are not compatible.
      3. 210ox
        210ox 8 January 2018 20: 27
        +3
        And what should be? Canet into the annals? In vain we wait, this is for a long time ..
        Quote: siberalt
        And who knows what will happen to Ukraine in two years? belay
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          1. LSA57
            LSA57 8 January 2018 23: 39
            +2
            Quote: lexus
            Only we will not give them such pleasure.

            But how do you like it?
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          2. Antares
            Antares 8 January 2018 23: 53
            +3
            Quote: lexus
            Only we will not give them such pleasure.

            the same can be said about Russians waiting for Ukraine to freeze ...
            Our peoples love to wait for the "neighbor's cow" smile
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 9 January 2018 00: 30
              +2
              Quote: Antares
              Our peoples love to wait for the "neighbor's cow"

              Yeah ... and they give gas to the freezing city ... the same ones ... the same ones ... If we were waiting for this ... you would have definitely froze .. but our relatives there and I don’t want anything bad to them .. But to you do not care .. you vigorous bonba did not regret for us ..
            2. Lexus
              Lexus 9 January 2018 00: 43
              +4
              I do not know. Neither I nor my friends wish them anything bad. And there are relatives there. There was a time, they screamed like wilds “Yes, we’ll tear Russia into two!” Now they have quieted down, apparently, the understanding of reality has returned. I told them right away, even though they are “cuckoo”, if the batch starts, let them take the kids and come, I won’t leave them without a piece of bread and a roof over their heads, I won’t leave them in trouble.
              And, if we are joking here about their stupidity and greed, then all these stories did not appear from scratch. As they say, there is such a sin, especially for zapadentsy. Yes, not for everyone, but alas, there are many of them.
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 8 January 2018 21: 38
      +3
      Quote: newbie
      The Grom-2 missile system, developed in Ukraine and about which the Ukrainian media trumpeted the whole world, is not intended for the Armed Forces,

      The Grom-2 missile system, developed in Ukraine and about which the Ukrainian media trumpeted the whole world, is not intended for the Armed Forces,

      Here’s what situevina is ... if this “Thunder” can shoot, then apparently the Kiev authorities decided to stupidly not give downs from the Armed Forces, so that they would not shoot each other, but for one they didn’t even level the ground with Kiev.
      And if he is "not working," then it is all the more clear that this miscarriage of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine is imprisoned under the divorce of Arab nouveau riche, with subsequent numerous modifications that will require a lot of a lot of money from the customer.
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 9 January 2018 06: 08
        0
        And if he is "not working," then it is all the more clear that this miscarriage of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine is imprisoned under the divorce of Arab nouveau riche, with subsequent numerous modifications that will require a lot of a lot of money from the customer.

        Here I agree a little. Are the Arabs really dumb? I didn’t think so. Such complexes at any exhibition in bulk, with workers. Any sheikh will buy himself. But for whom the Ukrainians are cheating on him?
    4. Normal ok
      Normal ok 9 January 2018 05: 20
      +1
      Type Russia does not work on imports? “There” more new weapons are going than in their own army.
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 9 January 2018 06: 12
        0
        “There” more new weapons are going than in their own army.

        Where to go? BV stuffed with weapons on the tonsils! There the sheikh sits on the sheikh and the sheikh drives her. They bought everything for themselves, from helicopters to boats. This is the gun on stage in the first act. It should work in the third ...
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 9 January 2018 07: 36
        0
        Russia produces Real Complexes, not cardboard boxes.
    5. Kent0001
      Kent0001 9 January 2018 07: 20
      0
      Another painted cardboard mockup. Super overpowered pan-leg-heads and another victory over Russia.
    6. Buffet
      Buffet 9 January 2018 10: 33
      0
      And the country is also Asian. I won’t be surprised that China.
  2. flicker
    flicker 8 January 2018 19: 59
    +5
    Was there a boy?
    1. svp67
      svp67 8 January 2018 20: 07
      +3
      Quote: flicker
      Was there a boy?

      Why was it? It is only being CREATED, for the money of Saudi Arabia, for Saudi Arabia, with the calculation of the issue in Saudi Arabia.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 January 2018 20: 19
        +4
        It surprises me how they were given such an order, they finance it?
        There was not at the design bureau, a design school for the creation of rockets of this class ... and the technology was not needed !!!
        1. svp67
          svp67 8 January 2018 20: 24
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          It surprises me how they were given such an order, they finance it?

          The Saudis came to the "sale", they have already bought An-132d, now OTR. Not all to China and DPRK to buy
          Quote: rocket757
          Not at Extremely KB

          There was and still is - "Southern"
          Quote: rocket757
          design school to create rockets of this class ... and the technology was not needed !!!

          Yuzhnoye had all the information on the Soviet OTR and the Design Bureau that could create super-missiles of the Voivode type, I don’t think it was difficult to create something like that, especially since they started work on this topic in the USSR.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 9 January 2018 09: 58
            +3
            Hello! Did they make solid fuel rockets of small classes ??? They have the technology for the production of special POWDERS ??? YES. YES, VERY SPECIAL combustible mixture is used in these missiles. We have whole institutes developing it !!! A couple of factories MADE IT COULD !!!
            Tests with a babah do not suggest any thoughts ??? oh why there is not calculated! create a commission and everything will be a bunch !!!
            And let's see what kind of "bunch" they get ???
            Design Bureau Yuzhnoye was developing missiles of a different class, very different. By the way, the production took place in COOPERATION with our factories.
            1. svp67
              svp67 9 January 2018 10: 08
              0
              Quote: rocket757
              They have the technology for the production of special POWDERS ??? YES. YES, VERY SPECIAL combustible mixture is used in these missiles. We have whole institutes developing it !!! A couple of factories MADE IT COULD !!! A couple of factories MADE IT COULD !!!

              One of which was located in Pavlograd in Ukraine. So HAVE
              Quote: rocket757
              Design Bureau Yuzhnoye was developing missiles of a different class, very different. By the way, the production took place in COOPERATION with our factories.

              This is not who does not deny, nor is it the fact that they will create this in cooperation, but already with Western firms.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 9 January 2018 11: 55
                +3
                Exactly, we could make fuel ... then we will look for quality, that is, there will be the next broads or not.
                By the way, I did not write for cooperation with foreign companies, because it exists, it is understandable.
                We are waiting for the total result, fly or not.
      2. flicker
        flicker 8 January 2018 20: 42
        +4
        It looks like the project promises to be too long in time - Ukraine as a country may collapse earlier.
        Yes, and the Saudis are clearly worn out, then they take weapons from the states for more than 100 lards, then they buy S-400 from us, then they come to Qatar, they bargain with Ukraine ... at the same time they are fighting with Yemen, they are putting princes ...
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 8 January 2018 20: 50
          +3
          Quote: flicker
          Yes, and the Saudis are clearly worn out, then for more than 100 lards from the states they take weapons, they plant princes ...

          So, with this landing, they will just beat off 100 billion (or more). yes At the end of 2017, the princes began to pay off slowly.
          1. flicker
            flicker 8 January 2018 21: 01
            +2
            smile well, yes ... 100 billion. beat off. True, those who have recaptured laughing they will also beat something belay angry
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 8 January 2018 21: 39
      +3
      Quote: flicker
      Was there a boy?

      Only he turned out to be a girl.
      1. flicker
        flicker 8 January 2018 21: 46
        +3
        Well, yes, it’s fashionable for them now request
  3. svp67
    svp67 8 January 2018 19: 59
    +8
    The Grom-2 missile system, developed in Ukraine and about which the Ukrainian media trumpeted the whole world, is not intended for the Armed Forces
    How do they "PEREMOGY" very quickly turn into a "zrada" .... You wonder.
    Just yesterday, one of the "scammers" proved to me that their "Thunder" "curvature of the Earth" is not an obstacle and they "how to blow it from the Crimean Bridge ...." I tried to explain something to him, but he had "complete Maidan of the brain "and how will he live now with this news will be?
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 8 January 2018 20: 04
      +6
      wave it off and run to jump on. this is a clinic.
    2. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 8 January 2018 20: 05
      +2
      Nothing, survive. They have full double-mindedness in Orwellian style:
      “It seems that there were even demonstrations of gratitude to Big Brother for increasing the rate of chocolate to twenty grams per week. But just yesterday it was announced that the rate was reduced to twenty grams, Winston thought. Do they really believe that - after some days? Believe. "
    3. NKT
      NKT 8 January 2018 21: 36
      0
      And he did not think what would happen after the shot? wink or victory right away and the game is over? wink
      1. svp67
        svp67 9 January 2018 02: 56
        0
        Quote: NKT
        He didn’t think what would happen after the shot?

        He is “sincerely” confident that “the whole world is for them” and “NATO will intervene for them”
  4. alavrin
    alavrin 8 January 2018 20: 12
    +1
    Who would doubt ... Especially after the "Navozets" and the master class of Rostik Abramov Engineering and Technology of Kharkov Plant named after Malysheva.
  5. Simon
    Simon 8 January 2018 20: 13
    +2
    According to the manufacturers, the launcher provides for the transportation and launch of two ground-to-ground missiles --- Well, of course! Just take off, and then fall. They already launched the Oplot tanks and sent them to Pakistan, so he has been angry with them for a long time! Apparently work well.laughing
    1. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 8 January 2018 22: 05
      +3
      BM "Oplot" was delivered to Thailand)) For them, the whole battalion is more than enough))
  6. loginovich
    loginovich 8 January 2018 20: 14
    +2
    Quote: newbie
    this was to be expected_ the same story as with the “stronghold”, almost the same.


    This is not a story anymore - it's a joke and moreover a long-playing
  7. polpot
    polpot 8 January 2018 20: 17
    0
    Please announce the list of buyers of this product
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 8 January 2018 20: 20
    +2
    Thundered, it turns out "Grim" vna ukroine? fool Didn’t it go further than blowing bubbles? ?? lol
  9. Nemo
    Nemo 8 January 2018 20: 35
    +1
    Strange rocket chassis.
    1. Too small wheels, although acres are designed for a larger diameter
    2. It is strange that they closed 3 and 4 pair of wheels, I have an assumption that the axles are combined there for some reason.
    3. They combined the launcher and the KShM, unless of course behind the cockpit it is not an engine.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 9 January 2018 07: 41
      0
      This is the Ukrainians. Blinded from what was. They did not carry out such a deep analysis. And they need it?))))
  10. anosoff
    anosoff 8 January 2018 20: 39
    +1
    Interesting! And what base car is planned for the launcher? Something similar to MAZ. repeat
    1. Antares
      Antares 9 January 2018 00: 00
      0
      Quote: anosoff
      And what base car is planned for the launcher? Something similar to MAZ

      like almamater yes
      TM SPU Kharkov if that.
      PJSC Kharkov Plant of Transport Equipment with the participation of the State Enterprise Kharkiv Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering named after A.A. Morozov. " It was here that the first Ukrainian self-propelled 5-axle chassis, which was developed from scratch by Ukrainian designers, was created and embodied in a running model.
      Within the framework of the Thunder-2 project, two more special vehicles are envisaged - ТМ ТЗМ - transport-loading machine and ТМ ТМ - transport vehicle for transporting missiles. The self-propelled launcher itself (TM SPU) is equipped with two containers for ground-to-ground missiles:
      Note that previously in Ukraine there was no own chassis capable of being self-propelled launchers for this class of missile systems. The maximum that the industry could offer was the 4-axle chassis KrAZ-7634НЕ (KrAZ Н27.3ЕХ) with the formula 8x8.

      Suitable chassis are produced by few countries in the world - Belarus (MZKT), Russia (BZKT, KAMAZ), China (DongFeng), as well as MAN and a number of companies from the USA. The supply of such chassis is under strict export control and for some reasons was not available for the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. Therefore, Ukraine was forced to independently develop and master the production of missile chassis, thereby completely getting rid of dependence on the development of the OTRK.
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 9 January 2018 07: 44
        0
        Thank you for the bravura report on the next change. Can I have information on the tests and reliability of this chassis?
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 January 2018 21: 23
    +1
    Gy wassat Why am I not a bit surprised?
  12. Berkut24
    Berkut24 8 January 2018 21: 55
    +2
    Firstly, I have no doubt that no one has built the complex as such. Engine tests do not understand why with incomprehensible characteristics, the creation of the rocket itself with the necessary characteristics and the corresponding guidance system does not prove.
    Secondly, swineherds probably do not realize that in the world no one is buying weapons in countries that are not going to accept these weapons in their own army.
    Thirdly, the production base for such weapons does not exist in principle. Those. money for a deliberately unrealizable project was laundered, they tinkered on TV and everything was in vain.
    And in the fourth, even the characteristics declared by the Jewish Ukrainian are slightly shameful for our time.
  13. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 8 January 2018 21: 58
    +3
    For some reason I am not surprised. How many screams were about this complex, but in fact it all ended, too expensive for the APU.
  14. assa67
    assa67 8 January 2018 22: 02
    +5
    the "thunder-2 complex" will not be delivered to the VSU, it will immediately be taken to the trash
    Quote: lexus
    And this, apparently, is the General Designer. winked
  15. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 8 January 2018 23: 38
    0
    Thought there would be a “thunder" and in the end a "bunch".
  16. Antares
    Antares 9 January 2018 00: 11
    0
    Ukrainian complex "Thunder-2" will not be supplied to the APU

    for a simple reason, it is not there yet. It is only in development. CA pays for all work. APU will only have to find money for the finished product without paying for development. And not related to export restrictions.
    Nowhere does Zugurets contradict what the Ukrainian media “trumpeted” about this complex. CA takes care of development and development. It receives technology, and Ukraine is able to build a ready-made complex without spending money on development. At least I heard from the "Ukrainian media" both Russian and foreign.
    Ukraine itself concentrated on Older.
    For starters, the article is missing the source
    https://apostrophe.ua/article/society/accidents/2
    018-01-08 / ukrainskaya-armiya-jdet-novoe-moschnoe-
    orujie-vajnyie-detali / 16365
    We are looking for what Zgurets said (and his site is an analogue of VO in our country, but without commentators)
    - Can this complex become a powerful Ukrainian weapon in the hybrid war with Russia that is currently underway? Is it being done precisely under the conflict or is it a new powerful weapon for the Ukrainian army?

    - This complex is manufactured by order of a foreign customer, taking into account all the requirements that have been put forward by a foreign buyer. Based on this complex, an own complex can be created that will have the best tactical and technical characteristics, and the potential for this will be quite sufficient.
    The military expects that after the successful completion of the test cycle and supply of the batch for the foreign customer, this will significantly reduce the cost of finalizing the complex to the requirements of the Ukrainian military, which is higher than the requirements of the foreign customer.
    - How powerful is the Grom-2 complex?
    - We need this weapon because by far the most powerful APU complex is the Soviet Tochka complex, which is equipped with our first missile brigade.
    The Tochka missile system has a range of up to 120 kilometers. But at one time it was designed for the use of various ammunition, including a nuclear warhead and other things, which provided for the possibility of a sufficiently large deviation from the target. Today we do not have such a “far arm” that is capable of defeating the enemy over long distances. And if we say that the Alder complex reaches a range of 120 km, and ideally a little further, then the Grom-2 complex should reach a range of 280 km in the export version. And in the version for its own use, it can have a greater range.
    That is, in fact, this complex will be the first that will be able to hit targets at least twice as much distance, or even three times, than those weapons that are currently in service with the Ukrainian army. This is an indicator of range.
    The indicators for accuracy and power, I think, will be an order of magnitude higher than those indicators that are today associated with the "Point" complex.
  17. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 9 January 2018 00: 17
    +1
    Funds research and development and production of Saudi Arabia. For them, and rockets.
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 9 January 2018 06: 56
      0
      Funds research and development and production of Saudi Arabia. For them, and rockets.

      What for? Where are they going to shoot in 10 years?
      I was just recently in Abu Dhabi, at an exhibition, so there is plenty of such good ....
      Yes, and we have Saudi Arabia with the Academy of the Aerospace Forces does not get out ... Pieces of 300 specialists exactly prepared. And in Zhukovsky they specifically dug in ...
  18. sgr291158
    sgr291158 9 January 2018 07: 08
    0
    And what else could be expected from these clowns. First they’ll trumpet and then, well, in general, it’s clear.