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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: UAVs launched from a distance of more than 50 km were used against the bases of the Russian Federation in Syria

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Militants in Syria used 13 drone drone when attempting to attack Russian bases Khmeimim and Tartus on the night of January 6, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.


The security system of the Russian Hmeimim airbase and the logistics station of the Russian Navy in the city of Tartus on the night of 5 on 6 January successfully failed an attack by terrorists with a massive use of drone unmanned aerial vehicles
- Said in the military.

Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: UAVs launched from a distance of more than 50 km were used against the bases of the Russian Federation in Syria


According to the Russian Defense Ministry, Russian air defense systems at a considerable distance revealed 13 small-sized air targets of unknown affiliation, approaching Russian military targets.

Ten assault unmanned aerial vehicles were approaching the Russian Hmeimim airbase and three more - to the point of material and technical support of the Russian Navy in the city of Tartus
- Said in the Ministry of Defense.

An attempt to attack terrorists on Russian facilities in Syria with the help of UAVs was repulsed by means of electronic warfare and Pantsir-S air defense systems, added to the Defense Ministry

Seven unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed by regular anti-aircraft missile-cannon complexes "Pantsir-S" of the Russian air defense units, carrying round-the-clock combat duty
- Said in the military.

According to the Ministry of Defense, six more UAVs were intercepted by Russian electronic warfare units.

Of these, three were planted in the controlled area outside the base, and three more unmanned aerial vehicles detonated during landing from a collision with the ground
- noted in the Ministry of Defense.

Also in the military, they added that the terrorists used to attack Russian military facilities in Syria, aircraft-type drones with GPS guidance. The data of intercepted drones deciphered, the exact place of their launch is determined.

At present, Russian military experts are conducting a detailed analysis of the design, technical stuffing and improvised ammunition of captured attack unmanned aerial vehicles.
- leads "Interfax-AVN" message of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
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  1. jolly deckhand
    jolly deckhand 8 January 2018 18: 39
    25
    Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 8 January 2018 18: 46
      14
      The main thing is that they intercepted. The rest is a matter of special services.
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 8 January 2018 18: 49
        38
        Quote: jolly deckhand
        Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

        Here are the official photos of intercepted drones and "bombs":


        https://m.vk.com/wall-133441491_120281
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 8 January 2018 19: 01
          29
          "Bombs":
          1. Anatoly R
            Anatoly R 9 January 2018 07: 20
            0
            These crackers except for the New Year to use. Or a neighbor in the cottage shit.
            1. Evgenijus
              Evgenijus 9 January 2018 09: 29
              +5
              Anatoly R:
              These crackers except for the New Year to use. Or a neighbor in the cottage shit.

              Or reset the refinery, here's the fireworks will be! Or to the civilian airport in Cairo (for tourists from Russia on the head) ... And how much kerosene in one Boeing? But does one Boeing stand at the airport for taking off or landing passengers?
              So much for the crackers ...
            2. Nikolay Fedorov
              Nikolay Fedorov 9 January 2018 10: 44
              +8
              Quote: Anatoly R
              These crackers except for the New Year to use. Or a neighbor in the cottage shit.

              You would serve in the army, preferably - to take part in hostilities. Then they would begin to understand a little about the ammunition and the consequences of their use. Kindergarten got lost ...
        2. Going
          Going 8 January 2018 19: 02
          11
          The conflict can go into another phase, and ours need to keep an eye out.
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 8 January 2018 20: 41
            18
            Quote: Going
            The conflict can go into another phase, and ours need to keep an eye out.

            ... they will spoil ... this is in English and gentlemanly, not the first time ...
            Quote: xetai9977
            God, what pathos! SHOCK UAVs! Are these the ones that are assembled on a knee on a do-it-yourself basis?

            ... well described here ... http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4860795 ... quote:
            "Engineering solutions used by terrorists in an attack on Russian targets in Syria could be obtained only from one of the countries that have high technological capabilities to provide satellite navigation and remote control the dumping of professionally assembled improvised explosive devices in the assigned coordinates," the Defense Ministry emphasized.
            According to the ministry, all terrorist drones are equipped with barometric sensors and elevator control servos. In addition, foreign-made fuses were used in improvised explosive devices of terrorists attached to aircraft-type UAVs, the Ministry of Defense noted.

            "At present, competent Russian specialists are establishing channels for delivering these technologies and devices to terrorists, and they are also studying the type and origin of explosive mixtures used for IEDs (improvised explosive devices)," the military department added.

            The military also notes that the use by militants in Syria of aircraft-type drone drones suggests that they have received technology to launch such an attack in any country.
            More on TASS:
            http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4860795
            ... it's not a grenade tied to a Chinese helicopter ...
            1. Serg koma
              Serg koma 9 January 2018 03: 32
              0
              Quote: Inok10
              fuses used foreign production, noted in the Ministry of Defense
              http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4860795.


              This "uncle", from the press center of the Moscow Region, could not have voiced anything more intelligible?
              So following his logic - fuses them, and UAV OUR??
              He has no ears, he has something else, for such a "competent" comment, you need to unscrew it !!!
          2. papas-57
            papas-57 9 January 2018 05: 11
            +2
            Maybe ours can launch `` unidentified '' strike drones in the position of gentlemen, check their air defense. Well, there will be a universal kipish.
        3. xetai9977
          xetai9977 8 January 2018 20: 29
          +9
          God, what pathos! SHOCK UAVs! Are these the ones that are assembled on a knee on a do-it-yourself basis?
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 8 January 2018 20: 43
            43
            Quote: xetai9977
            God, what pathos! SHOCK UAVs! Are these the ones that are assembled on a knee on a do-it-yourself basis?

            ... assemble on your knee and demonstrate ... laughing
            1. Dreamboat
              Dreamboat 8 January 2018 20: 59
              26
              He cannot, he stands on them and bows to the "masters of the world."
              A drone can also be assembled on the knee, the main control / guidance unit, and all the rest is garbage, if only it does not fall off in flight.
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 8 January 2018 21: 06
                23
                Quote: Dreamboat
                A drone can also be assembled on the knee, the main control / guidance unit, and all the rest is garbage, if only it does not fall off in flight.

                ... gold words ! ... and, most importantly, the positioning system and most importantly from where they know the air defense positions and the main cherry on the cake - their coordinates! ... this is not visible with binoculars ... you have to work hard for this ... somehow the barmalei didn’t have such cleverness before ... well, here’s the FPS control, remote reset, everything’s about an adult ... whose then our ears won’t tell whose ... but it’s not hard to guess ... our RTR / RER worked wonderfully ... because such a bird has an image intensifier of 0,00 ... it’s just wooden and its flight height not in km. measured ... hi
                1. Shahno
                  Shahno 8 January 2018 21: 09
                  11
                  This is strange. But this accuracy does not fit on the knee. Not that.
                  1. Midshipman
                    Midshipman 8 January 2018 23: 23
                    +6
                    What is there to dock? I poked Google maps anywhere - I got the exact coordinates. I copied it to the flight controller and you're done.
                    1. Inok10
                      Inok10 10 January 2018 01: 22
                      +1
                      Quote: Midshipman
                      What is there to dock? I poked Google maps anywhere - I got the exact coordinates. I copied it to the flight controller and you're done.

                      ... with a half-elbow accuracy on the map ... laughing
                      Quote: Shahno
                      This is strange. But this accuracy does not fit on the knee. Not that.

                      ... Paul, my respect! ... hi ... the riddle has already been resolved, you yourself understand the details no longer needed:
                      MOSCOW, January 9. / TASS /. A U.S. Navy reconnaissance aircraft Poseidon was hovering between Tartus and Khmeimim during the attack of terrorist-controlled drones on Russian military facilities in Syria. This was announced on Tuesday in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
                      "... it’s a strange coincidence, why during the period of the UAV [unmanned aerial vehicles] terrorists’ attack on Russian military facilities in Syria over the Mediterranean Sea for more than four hours at an altitude of 7 thousand meters, it was the US Navy reconnaissance aircraft Partidos between Tartus and Khmeimim, - they said in the Russian military.
                      More on TASS:
                      http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4862282
                      ... the puzzle has developed ... but yes, we are no longer accustomed to pushing ourselves with our elbows, the Pidzhakov publicity is indignant, but previously did not know about such things ... wink
                2. Midshipman
                  Midshipman 8 January 2018 23: 21
                  +8
                  On aliexpress, the entire set of equipment can be bought for $ 200. Anduin 100r, ZhPS 600 sensor, gyroscope / barometer / magnetometer on one board the size of a brand of 500 r. Now any student who is familiar with the basics of programming and aerodynamics can make such a "shock drone" on his knee for a week for the money saved on school breakfasts.
                  1. Dreamboat
                    Dreamboat 9 January 2018 00: 30
                    +9
                    You can see the genius abruptly Leo Davinci ... all over the world, the Ministry of Defense invests huge budgets, whole institutes work, but it was necessary to order on Ali good
                    I only know one country where hundreds of schoolchildren invent shock drones, but I won’t call them, I’m sorry for them .... and so they spread rot.
                    1. insular
                      insular 9 January 2018 01: 40
                      +3
                      Quote: Dreamboat
                      invest huge budgets

                      This is a key point in your message. Need to master budgets ...

                      Collect a drone a lot of mind is not necessary. All components are on sale.
                      Perhaps the problem is only in secure transceiver devices, but I guess that having access to the black market is not a problem.
                    2. avdkrd
                      avdkrd 9 January 2018 04: 19
                      +3
                      Quote: Dreamboat
                      You can see the genius abruptly Leo Davinci ... all over the world, the Ministry of Defense invests huge budgets, whole institutes work, but it was necessary to order on Ali

                      Just Gardemarin is right. There is no problem making GPS guidance, standard quadrocopters with a GPS module are sold on Ali even in a finished form. “Normal” attack drones are distinguished by the presence of a protected channel for the use of guided weapons and control, programmable flight along GPS coordinates and even dropping bombs along these coordinates is really a simple task and is easily implemented on an elemental base purchased quite legally. Another thing is that the devices assembled “on the knee” were made according to a very technological project, which provided for a very significant carrying capacity and an acceptable flight range (although the result is one way 50 km) and the most important materials for assembling the airframe.
                      1. Midshipman
                        Midshipman 9 January 2018 14: 09
                        0
                        There is nothing secret in the materials. Foam, scotch tape and several wooden slats are sufficient for a 50 km flight. The wing profile is cut out with a hot string, the rudders are hung on reinforced tape, rocking boars made of textolite, traction made of wire. If you have a finished project (even if I’m not a specialist, I’ll draw it in a couple of days) and little experience in making such a glider takes two to three people days at a cost of a couple thousand rubles.

                        By the way, judging by the photo, this is exactly how this drone was made - white foam surfaces are covered with multi-colored tape.
                    3. Midshipman
                      Midshipman 9 January 2018 13: 56
                      +1
                      This is what. I don’t have the most expensive Chinese smartphone. It can find a person’s face in a photograph and determine its gender and age! And it’s very accurate. Mobile computers with similar performance (google berry) cost 2 tr. With the proper skill, it is possible to assemble a program from the software libraries that are freely available that can recognize the terrain from the image from the onboard camera. An unmanned aerial vehicle with such a system does not even need an FSS, and you can’t get it off-course by the REB unless you burn the electronics with a powerful electromagnetic pulse.
                  2. Dalailama
                    Dalailama 9 January 2018 05: 01
                    +1
                    Do not hang on your cow zhps, otherwise they will rake for espionage.
                3. Said
                  Said 9 January 2018 06: 16
                  +1
                  What does the coordinates of air defense? They went to military bases. Their coordinates are not an open secret. And as for the air defense positions, they are well seen by the partners' satellites.
                4. Anatoly R
                  Anatoly R 9 January 2018 07: 28
                  0
                  I think these are the first American drones made as prototypes that have been in the warehouse since 1970.
            2. insular
              insular 9 January 2018 01: 37
              +6
              Quote: Inok10
              ... assemble on your knee and demonstrate ...

              Half a year ago, I wrote that using only online stores, you can assemble a drone from a free sale with a range of 100 km and a payload of 20-25 kg with a minimum budget.
              If you are not in the subject of radio-controlled models, then this is not a reason to gnaw.

              I personally assembled a radio-controlled buggy model that even has a stabilized camcorder on servos, with position tracking for connecting to virtual reality glasses and a control range of 1 km.
              Its size is 1: 8 and its carrying capacity is about 5 kg with a speed of 40-60 km / h along the intersection (at a lower speed, the payload can be several times greater).
              Having more serious transceiver devices, you can go to where as long range.
              It must be said, what can be done from this with malicious intent?
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 10 January 2018 01: 15
                +1
                Quote: insular
                Half a year ago, I wrote that using only online stores, you can assemble a drone from a free sale with a range of 100 km and a payload of 20-25 kg with a minimum budget.

                ... cool, collect ... and try to take into account the following parameters in managing it:
                - course demolition
                - terrain
                - natural obstacles on the flight route, pipes of the CHP, power lines 110-330 kV, high-rise buildings
                - Weather Status
                and Cherry - direct radio communication range - Radio horizon ... I wish you good luck ... and all this on Google maps and with reference to their coordinates ... +/- 50 m. ... and of course everything with Alli Express ... laughing
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 8 January 2018 21: 57
            11
            Quote: xetai9977
            God, what pathos! SHOCK UAVs! Are these the ones that are assembled on a knee on a do-it-yourself basis?

            And who fly at an altitude of 20-50 m, and whose EPR is 0 whole, hell of a tenth ... go find it and intercept it ...
            At the same time, since such a master, try to collect something like that yourself, so that it also reaches the target, and does not fly wherever it wants.
          3. vlad66
            vlad66 8 January 2018 22: 02
            12
            Quote: xetai9977
            God, what pathos! SHOCK UAVs! Are these the ones that are assembled on a knee on a do-it-yourself basis?

            In Karabakh, too, much has been gathered up on his knee, but isn’t it shooting? There is such pathos, fools, bastards, VKS even more fools, they only drink vodka, some mattresses, coupled with Azerbaijan, are smart, where to go. laughing
          4. max702
            max702 8 January 2018 23: 10
            +9
            Quote: xetai9977
            God, what pathos! SHOCK UAVs! Are these the ones that are assembled on a knee on a do-it-yourself basis?

            Paphos say? now when such a drone flies into a civilian plane for 300 passengers that way .. it won’t seem like pathos .. Or let’s say for public festivities on Red Square. or at the stadium .. And if there are a dozen of them with chemistry, or what other muck?
    2. dSK
      dSK 8 January 2018 18: 54
      25
      Hello "funny sailor"
      According to the Ministry of Defense, six more drones intercepted the Russian units of electronic warfare. Also, the military department added that the terrorists used GPS-type drones to attack Russian military facilities in Syria. The data of the intercepted drones is decrypted, the exact place of their launch is determined.
      EW worked successfully, even took the "prisoners".
      1. jolly deckhand
        jolly deckhand 8 January 2018 18: 59
        +9
        Hello to you, too!!! hi Only one thing is embarrassing (well, I can’t do it without a fly in the ointment) - well, they didn’t repulse the attack on the base when ours died, the Kingdom of Heaven, the Warriors, their heads folded on the battlefield ...?
        1. The black
          The black 8 January 2018 19: 05
          26
          In response, it’s time to soak in the trash all the bases on which the Ishilov’s kiss kisses with American instructors .... and it’s enough to politically correct .... but something like this political correctness begins to look like an elementary fear of getting a cradle, covered by a wrapper of universal brotherhood, humanism , partnerships and other crap. You need to fight hard .... or then do not fight at all ....
          1. allaykbar
            allaykbar 8 January 2018 19: 52
            29
            but something like this political correctness begins to look like an elementary fear of getting lyuley


            I think when you will be responsible for about 140 million lives - you will not flaunt and calmly talk about getting / giving stars
          2. yousha1980
            yousha1980 9 January 2018 01: 26
            +3
            Even if they grinded someone in response, then why brag about it all over the world? Whoever intended it would understand everything. And complaining to them is also not reasonable. Well this is not staged stories about civilians to shoot. Someday then we will find out in the form of tales what yes and how.
          3. Rusfaner
            Rusfaner 9 January 2018 09: 41
            +2
            For the bombardment carried out by unknown people, ours were bombed by unknown ... (s)
            (from the 80s, in my opinion)
            1. a.boroda61
              a.boroda61 9 January 2018 16: 01
              0
              In response to an attack on a peacefully plowing Soviet tractor, the collective farm chairman sent vertical take-off seeders and jet plows .... well, etc. ...
        2. _Jack_
          _Jack_ 8 January 2018 19: 29
          11
          then there was mortar fire, this is a completely different song
        3. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 8 January 2018 19: 38
          28
          Quote: jolly deckhand
          Only one thing confuses (well, I can’t do it without a fly in the ointment) - well, they didn’t repel the attack on the base when ours died

          Shells and EW tools do not intercept mortar mines.
          Don’t be embarrassed - go to school tomorrow. And listen to the "authoritative" Navalny again.
        4. 210ox
          210ox 8 January 2018 19: 41
          +2
          Not to be beaten off? This is from the same opera when they sang laudatory odes and relaxed.
          Quote: jolly deckhand
          Hello to you, too!!! hi Only one thing is embarrassing (well, I can’t do it without a fly in the ointment) - well, they didn’t repulse the attack on the base when ours died, the Kingdom of Heaven, the Warriors, their heads folded on the battlefield ...?
          1. Blackgrifon
            Blackgrifon 8 January 2018 22: 18
            +3
            Quote: 210ox
            This is from the same opera when they sang laudatory odes and relaxed

            You are not quite right. Neither the US in Vietnam, nor the USSR and NATO in Afghanistan have ever had 100% secure airfields.
            Here is an article with bmpd (the main commentary on it should not be read), for example: "Measures to Protect American Aviation Bases in Vietnam" https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3037926.html
            In addition, even at the stage of creating the base, there was information that, due to its location and the characteristics of the airfield, all the equipment is very crowded.
        5. dSK
          dSK 8 January 2018 20: 18
          +6
          Quote: jolly deckhand
          Well, they didn’t repel the attack on the base,

          New Year's Eve, relaxed a little, "where it is thin, there it breaks", and the enemy has long been no honor or conscience.
          Firewood, the pictures of which you posted, arrived about three days ago, and this is a fresh "fly". hi
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 8 January 2018 21: 29
            +4
            Namesake, welcome hi
            Congratulations to Colonel soldier
            and this is a fresh "fly"

            And "washed off" cognac. good drinks
        6. LeonidL
          LeonidL 8 January 2018 20: 28
          10
          Respected! Mines, unlike drones and missiles of the MLRS, the Shell does not intercept and EW does not land. it’s almost impossible to bring down a mine ... yet.
        7. Captain Nemo
          Captain Nemo 8 January 2018 21: 27
          +4
          Yes, yes, Shell also intercepts bullets. Teeth
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 8 January 2018 19: 32
        22
        This is our trump card (EW). I was particularly pleased that the devices were VERY SMALL and neutralized from materials that mainly absorb radiation. I think sworn friends are now scratching their turnips and cursing profanely in English.
    3. hrych
      hrych 8 January 2018 18: 56
      21
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Okay, lie.

      Something lies at you godlessly. A conspiracy of some dark forces. The Ministry of Defense is certainly not your authority. Who is your authority among our (maybe foreign) politicians and social activists? Explain, please?
      1. jolly deckhand
        jolly deckhand 8 January 2018 19: 11
        17

        The authority for me is by no means speaking heads from federal channels. hi People who took a direct part, and we have enough of them in the Province, have someone to listen to, believe me ..
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 8 January 2018 19: 26
          39
          Quote: jolly deckhand
          The authority for me is by no means speaking heads from federal channels. hi People who were directly involved

          You know, in the USSR, I managed to catch him, there was a lot of talk about saying that newspapers are lying, but there are people who have seen, know, etc. And then there really were enough problems. That's just, as it turned out, it was necessary to trust the newspapers more and less to everyone who knew and participated directly.
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 8 January 2018 19: 31
            19
            Quote: jolly deckhand
            Authority for me is by no means ...


            and who cares?

            You are already sure, you are not an authority, at least write a hundred times

            If you understand the question - write on the case, then maybe you deserve credibility
            Grumbling and whining - never
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 8 January 2018 19: 36
              +8
              Quote: Dart2027

              You know, in the USSR, I managed to catch him, there was a lot of talk about saying that newspapers are lying, but there are people who have seen, know, etc. And then there really were enough problems. That's just, as it turned out, it was necessary to trust the newspapers more and less to everyone who knew and participated directly.


              And I also lived in it a lot.
              I’ll say that there was a lot of lies in the newspapers, just like in any other country
              And if they didn’t lie, then they simply were silent, we had no idea about much
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 8 January 2018 20: 47
                +4
                Quote: bulvas
                I will say that the lies in the newspapers were not enough

                It was the same as now and at any other time. That's just not all was a lie.
          2. Anyone
            Anyone 8 January 2018 20: 41
            +2
            Quote: Dart2027
            That's just, as it turned out, it was necessary to trust the newspapers more and less to everyone who knew and participated directly.

            What are you doing on the forum then? Go read the newspapers.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 8 January 2018 20: 46
              +8
              Quote: Anyone
              What are you doing on the forum then? Go read the newspapers.

              I enlighten you.
              1. Anyone
                Anyone 8 January 2018 20: 49
                +3
                So you just (a couple of posts above) recommended that everyone present not listen. Lied?
                1. bulvas
                  bulvas 8 January 2018 21: 55
                  +2
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Quote: Anyone
                  What are you doing on the forum then? Go read the newspapers.

                  I enlighten you.


                  Would be ashamed of why you lower yourself so ridiculously
                2. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 9 January 2018 19: 32
                  0
                  Quote: Anyone
                  recommended that everyone not listen to themselves.

                  Well, you believe those who saw it, and here I am sharing observations.
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        3. Kent0001
          Kent0001 8 January 2018 19: 33
          +6
          Well, yes, just who really fought, then that rule is silent (no offense). There are many limiting factors for such people.
        4. LeonidL
          LeonidL 8 January 2018 20: 30
          12
          You, my dear, recognize only yourself as an authority ... well, probably the most non-federal honest channels like Rain, but from the politicians Provenny and Ksyushu? Download further.
          1. allaykbar
            allaykbar 8 January 2018 20: 44
            +5
            You, my dear, recognize only yourself as an authority ... well, probably the most non-federal honest channels like Rain, but from the politicians Provenny and Ksyushu? Download further.


            Well, yes, just who really fought, then that rule is silent (no offense). There are many limiting factors for such people.


            You are already sure, you are not an authority, at least write a hundred times


            I think there is no sense in writing to him. there Cossack Rodnoverie brain with all that it implies.

            There is nothing left to do but enter into various "Slavic brotherhoods", write on the forum and fight posts with the Kremlin and the Fed. Channels
    4. Prisoner
      Prisoner 8 January 2018 19: 03
      +8
      For some gentlemen, the delusions of the barmalei and the lies of their masters see the ultimate truth? It’s sad.
    5. Muvka
      Muvka 8 January 2018 19: 06
      10
      I said that everything is fine. Great training for air defense. And I was sure that everything was fine yesterday, when even the enemy air force recognized that the attack was thwarted.
      1. Going
        Going 8 January 2018 19: 11
        17
        This is not training, this is war and the acquisition of valuable experience, sometimes at the cost of life, we wish ours not to be mistaken.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 8 January 2018 19: 39
          +2
          Well, I think you understand the meaning of my message. Sorry, I’m teaching all day today. The head swells. It’s hard to choose words.
          1. Going
            Going 8 January 2018 19: 42
            +5
            Of course I understood, just strengthened your message and that’s it. drinks good
    6. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 8 January 2018 19: 07
      +1
      This construction of sticks and camel manure is not capable of flying! Don’t need a blizzard ...
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 8 January 2018 19: 19
        +7
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        This construction of sticks and camel manure is not capable of flying! Don’t need a blizzard ...

        That's it, Do not blizzard Mountain shooter. You just have to follow the bazaar.
    7. Baloo
      Baloo 8 January 2018 19: 16
      +5
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

      Indeed, we collected such models in an aircraft modeling club in the distant Soviet childhood. Engines, control panels, etc., were written out through DOSOAF. Now, such aircraft sets are produced commercially. On the next branch (military materials) more detailed photos. How much is needed to damage a military aircraft at the Khmeini airfield. An extremely unfortunate place for a military base.
    8. svp67
      svp67 8 January 2018 19: 18
      15
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      That's what was used - on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

      Only in order to control the UAV at a distance of 50 km and equip it with the necessary engine and equipment, the Pioneer House should be too cool, but what could be planted ...

      1. insular
        insular 9 January 2018 02: 48
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        Only in order to control the UAV at a distance of 50 km and equip it with the necessary engine and equipment, the Pioneer House should be too cool, but what could be planted ...

        You are a little behind the reality of radio-controlled models.
        By the way, it is precisely the fact that they planted it and says that telemetry and the receiver are without any protection - i.e. commercial ...
    9. Nick
      Nick 8 January 2018 19: 22
      +3
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...
      negative
      And your portrait on the avatar is not very similar to the portrait in the frame, or are you with a camera? Where did the firewood come from? Informed you are our ...
    10. ando_bor
      ando_bor 8 January 2018 19: 47
      +2
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

      It's a shame - yes?
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      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 January 2018 20: 44
        15
        The perfect one-time bomb carrier! Material, but at least manure, skosh, paper ... the hardening surface is scanty !!!
        No telemetry, i.e. noticeable radiation. barometric altitude sensor !!! GPS coordinates, which is also not very noticeable! Simple control controller and u! Will go where it is programmed !!! The instructors in the house of pioneers were knowledgeable!
        One moment, the coordinates of the target SHOULD BE EXACTLY KNOWING ... here the “partners” definitely helped the barmalei, the bombs are very small, you need to hit the target exactly!
        1. Dreamboat
          Dreamboat 9 January 2018 00: 37
          +2
          And you try to think, if these drone managed to land without explosion, there is such a simple control system "barometric altitude sensor !!! GPS coordinates", or someone still managed to control them at such a distance and they should not bombed by GPS , but sighting?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 9 January 2018 09: 40
            +3
            And you try to believe \ check \ read that GPS is the same channel for receiving information! It is possible to pour into the control system on this channel what you need ... the channel is not military, the identity controller is hardly military and the level of protection is primitive / already known.
            Our military loudly declared that drones are made on the basis of high technology IT ...
            I’m still not a very gullible person, and in the sphere of my professional interests I have every reason to believe that NO ONE BARMAELIUM MILITARY REAL / SECRET TECHNOLOGIES WILL NOT GIVE !!!
            It is unlikely that barmalei have super-duper programmers who write new super secure programs !!! take from public, special sites !!! which are tracked by special services and warriors, i.e. EW developers.
            An example is a self-made anti-theft alarm on a car - if a person thinks in a standard way, the hijacker put his hand under the panel and hi, the car left, and if there’s any fanatic with imagination !!! go find where and how he put it in and connected it !!! So it is more necessary and with imagination !!!
            And as for accuracy, don’t worry ... they did a copter without telemetry, purely according to a given program, put an object in a circle of 2-3 meters, not immediately, but it worked. One obstacle WIND !!!!
            So telemetry, et is desirable, but not necessary!
    12. Maz
      Maz 8 January 2018 21: 22
      +1
      Shaw was required to prove! Bravo shell and creed
    13. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 8 January 2018 21: 24
      +1
      Do you really think your wit is funny? I remember, on the eve of the beginning of the Second World War, too, the cry was about "little blood and on foreign territory"
      1. Nikolay Fedorov
        Nikolay Fedorov 9 January 2018 10: 38
        +2
        Quote: Captain Nemo
        Do you really think your wit is funny? I remember, on the eve of the beginning of the Second World War, too, the cry was about "little blood and on foreign territory"

        What varied? If you decide to remember the beginning of the Second World War, then at the same time remember how you acted then with whiners, all-scufflers, alarmists, deserters and other muck.
    14. SSR
      SSR 8 January 2018 21: 36
      +3
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

      Did you determine the types of other UAVs from one photo, their range, and payload?
      Quote: Thrall
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

      Here are the official photos of intercepted drones and "bombs":


      https://m.vk.com/wall-133441491_120281

      Thank you so much, at least some specifics and not a fake nagging with an embossed photo of a brave Syrian, who was guarding Khmeimim and who found himself personally damaged from the UAV’s cartoon.
    15. just exp
      just exp 8 January 2018 21: 54
      +7
      maybe you are lying?
      and then here recently, before the elections, people with fresh registration have activated who want to convince us that everything is bad and we are doing everything wrong.
      and now a citizen is trying to convince us that UAVs with a range of 50 km are collected on their knees by illiterate Arabs.
    16. Maz
      Maz 8 January 2018 22: 45
      0
      And the fuses they have in the wrong system, papapararaa!
    17. alexmach
      alexmach 9 January 2018 00: 30
      0
      And in the picture like
      Russian military experts conduct a detailed analysis of the design, technical stuffing and home-made ammunition of captured drone unmanned aerial vehicles
    18. Seraphimamur
      Seraphimamur 9 January 2018 04: 34
      +1
      What kind of bum in the photo with some trash? And then drones?
    19. kos2910
      kos2910 9 January 2018 05: 19
      +1
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

      And specifically, what is the lie? Do not sculpt humpbacked. Photo published. Yes, self-made drones, but the specific filling is beyond the power of the pioneer house.
    20. renics
      renics 9 January 2018 08: 04
      0
      Well, yes, Alibaba Chinese and ebay sell for 200 bucks apiece, and they cannot be any drums.
    21. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 9 January 2018 10: 33
      +2
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers."

      What exactly annoys you in the message of our MO? In fact, our ministry of defense never planned to be called the ministry of truth, publicity and freedom of speech. He has other tasks - to defend his homeland. It seems that you are annoyed by the fact of a failed American attack. Well, be patient. You have to survive many more such failures. yes
  2. poquello
    poquello 8 January 2018 18: 40
    +3
    in, this is more concrete and more fun
  3. svp67
    svp67 8 January 2018 18: 40
    11
    That's when the FAVORITES, then the FAVORITES. That the air defense fighters, that electronic warfare, if our MTR operators from those UAVs would have been caught, it would have been great in general. Now the main thing is not to relax and wait for new tricks from the "partners" ...
  4. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 8 January 2018 18: 46
    13
    Someone the Russian MTR, obviously something to pinch ..
    1. svp67
      svp67 8 January 2018 18: 49
      +4
      Quote: Razvedka_Boem
      Someone the Russian MTR, obviously something to pinch ..

      You can not even doubt it.
      1. iaroslav.mudryi
        iaroslav.mudryi 8 January 2018 21: 21
        +5
        I managed to dig up something, do not judge strictly that I give a link to an enemy tweet, but it seems that there is a video posted from one of those drones at the time the Shell was working on it: https://twitter.com/MGhorab3/status/9497166860679
        53664
        the inscription above the video (translation): unmanned aerial vehicles spin around to bombard Hameimim airport, and Russian soldiers try to intercept them with various weapons
        The page belongs to a certain Mohammed Gorab - photographer, cameraman activist from Aleppo, his photo against the background of the flag of the Syrian Free Army - the "moderate" opposition, that is, Assad’s enemies and allies of the ov. Well, where did he get this drone video? Here is the thread for our MTR.
        1. Cetron
          Cetron 9 January 2018 00: 12
          0
          Tweet deleted, does not exist! Urs-ss ...
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 9 January 2018 00: 57
            0
            Everything is in place. The administration of the site would do well to work on the placement of links in comments
          2. iaroslav.mudryi
            iaroslav.mudryi 9 January 2018 01: 14
            +2
            exists, I give screenshots and videos, though not downloaded, I took off the screen:


            https://yadi.sk/i/bzx7nvjr3RHFe5
            https://yadi.sk/i/Idb1fyT33RHFfG
          3. iaroslav.mudryi
            iaroslav.mudryi 9 January 2018 01: 23
            +1
            try shortening the link:
            https://twitter.com/MGhorab3
            So opens his page ...
  5. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 8 January 2018 18: 51
    +8
    The main thing is that they successfully repelled the attack. He was present several times during the destruction of drones, in fact, even Zushka can be shot down.
    1. svp67
      svp67 8 January 2018 19: 22
      +9
      Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
      in fact, even Zushka can be brought down.

      Knock down -1/3 of the case, 2/3 discover, this trifle
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 8 January 2018 21: 46
        +5
        That's for sure, but how fun it is to drive this trifle)))
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 8 January 2018 19: 37
      +2
      The main thing to discover in advance.
    3. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 8 January 2018 19: 37
      +1
      Reflected and well, the main thing is not to relax and not to sing laudatory odes. There can be many more such attacks.
  6. senima56
    senima56 8 January 2018 18: 53
    0
    So it should be done: destroy or plant "on the territory under control"! The main thing is that not one comes back!
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 8 January 2018 19: 27
      +7
      Quote: senima56
      destroy or land "in controlled territory"!

      Destroy. There is nothing to plant there. What has been demonstrated is produced as consumer goods for aircraft model lovers. I will not mind if they calculate the company and it accidentally burns out.
      In the first Chechen one in the Rostov Region or Stavropol Region, they launched the production of motor-hang gliders, on which Dudaev laid eyes. The Chekists worked on time, they closed the company. It was a pity to look at the owner of the company in the news. I remembered, because barmalei can use this as well. And the Khmeini base is located extremely unsuccessfully. There is no doubt that the Macington macaques will not leave our base alone, and this provocation is not the last. It's time to give an answer and harder.
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 8 January 2018 19: 39
        +1
        I agree, "unidentified drones" and everything is in openwork. Tokma our zadr ..... ut. Unfortunately.
  7. Strips
    Strips 8 January 2018 18: 55
    +2
    Also in the military, they added that the terrorists used to attack Russian military facilities in Syria, aircraft-type drones with GPS guidance. The data of intercepted drones deciphered, the exact place of their launch is determined.


    Judging by the fact that both the data were decrypted and some were planted by electronic warfare, the primitive drones were really used by the terrorists.
    Planting their problems is not special for the military.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 8 January 2018 18: 59
      +7
      So the pictures are already mining. Conventional UAVs developed by BabahKB Idlib.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 8 January 2018 19: 00
        10
        Bombs. A little more advanced than black. Which stupidly to a grenade or 40mm American (they are more powerful) attached a stabilizer who poured plastic into molds, who cut stupidly from improvised pieces. Immediately technology.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 8 January 2018 19: 03
          +5
          For comparison, black bombs.
          1. Spez
            Spez 8 January 2018 19: 47
            +4
            3D printers are now available to everyone. I have three in my workshop. The most basic printer will print this form in a few hours. Cost of about 100 rubles. Moscow prices.
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 8 January 2018 19: 52
              10
              What do you think the fuselage, the engine. Riveted and everything flew .. Bomb with accuracy in 100 m on the GPS map without tests, assembled on the knee, but at 50 km. Kindergarten.
              1. Spez
                Spez 8 January 2018 20: 00
                +7
                I wrote about the bombs. In general, my knowledge obtained forty years ago in an aircraft modeling circle is quite enough to assemble an aircraft heavier than air in less than a week. which can fly to where it is needed, and with an average error of the GPS navigator, open the lock holding the warhead, or dive into a point on the map specified by the same navigator.
                As for the tests ... This tactic was not used for the first time, and has been sufficiently developed. Look at YouTube, everything from assembly technology to application methods can be found.
                1. Shahno
                  Shahno 8 January 2018 20: 10
                  +5
                  I am glad for your optimism. If so. You probably know about our minidrons. You can launch into the sky over Ashdod, even with experience after the mihlala, but the probability of achieving the goal is not great.
                  Although our babies fly into the windows. But this is after R&D and at the exit after the stands.
                  Although, as Sh. Used to say. "There are many friends of Horatio in the world, which our sages did not dream of."
                  1. Spez
                    Spez 8 January 2018 20: 42
                    15
                    I do not like to upset people, so I'm glad you are happy. The probability is always 50/50, i.e. either yes or no. I did not aim at the production of adult drone UAVs. I’m just informing you that the aircraft shown in the photo with a fuel supply of about two to three kg can fly 50 km through the navigator, without the help of an operator. Moreover, it can still be filmed on go-pro, and broadcast online through the simplest smartphone.
                    Well, and a video about adult and expensive toys:
                    look carefully from 3:20
                    1. Baloo
                      Baloo 8 January 2018 22: 00
                      +3
                      Quote: Spez
                      look carefully from 3:20

                      Thank you! fellow drinks good
                    2. Dreamboat
                      Dreamboat 9 January 2018 01: 00
                      +2
                      The video is cool, but not related to the creations of the "broads".
                      Firstly, these are the best examples in the world championship, and not collected do not understand which of them do not understand what;
                      Secondly, all the talk about the experience from the houses of pioneers is nonsense. Planets yes, they were collecting, and almost no one was collecting the control himself. Especially on GPS, about which they had not even heard about .... So that the plane, correcting all deviations from the air flow, would go to the right point, it should be serious "brains", the whole point is who put them.
                      Thirdly, GPS control would not work, I regularly travel by car with GPS in the Moscow region, neither the Kremlin nor major military bases have a GPS signal ... it is very muffled and distorted.
                      Therefore, do not look at the "wing", you need to look at the "brains". Probably a charge was attached to them, so that in case of loss of the drone there would be no “brains”, so not all were shot down, but risked landing
                      And it was not for nothing that the Pentagon has already begun to make excuses: https://ria.ru/syria/20180108/1512262167.html
                      1. Spez
                        Spez 9 January 2018 02: 47
                        0
                        Quote: Dreamboat
                        Firstly, these are the best examples in the world championship, and not collected do not understand which of them do not understand what;
                        Secondly, all the talk about the experience from the houses of pioneers is nonsense. Planets yes, they were collecting, and almost no one was collecting the control himself. Especially on GPS, about which they had not even heard about .... So that the plane, correcting all deviations from the air flow, would go to the right point, it should be serious "brains", the whole point is who put them.
                        Thirdly, GPS control would not work, I regularly travel by car with GPS in the Moscow region, neither the Kremlin nor major military bases have a GPS signal ... it is very muffled and distorted.
                        Therefore, do not look at the "wing", you need to look at the "brains". Probably a charge was attached to them, so that in case of loss of the drone there would be no “brains”, so not all were shot down, but risked landing
                        And it was not for nothing that the Pentagon has already begun to make excuses: https://ria.ru/syria/20180108/1512262167.html

                        The points.
                        Firstly, the video. which I published speaks about the possibilities that can be obtained with the help of my own hands and brains. The models shown there are not purchased at the store, and are not mass-produced, but are designed and built on the basis of equipment available in the free sale. This is a long and painstaking work, and the pleasure is expensive. The level is not the "Palace of Pioneers", but somewhat higher. But also not a specialized scientific institute with a powerful mathematical technology. base and state support.
                        Secondly, in order to consider the experience from the house of pioneers to be nonsense, one must first acquire and try to use it. Well, or ask your parents, in case of emergency ... You correctly noticed the brains, the whole point is in them. If you use them. then you can combine the experience of the "Palace of Pioneers" with modern technologies and equipment, most of which is acquired on ebee and aliexpress. I repeat, on YouTube there are videos with a full description of the assembly and configuration of different systems (Ardupilot or Pixhawk, for example).
                        Thirdly, yes the signal is jammed and distorted, but what do you want ?! And, (oh, miracle!), The article originally says this!
                        Of these, three were planted in the controlled area outside the base, and three more unmanned aerial vehicles detonated during landing from a collision with the ground
                        - noted in the Ministry of Defense.
                        Maybe that's why the attack on the bases was also repelled ?!
                        PS People have been using the GPS system directly since the mid-70s, and from the 85th year it’s not only military.
                2. LeonidL
                  LeonidL 8 January 2018 20: 35
                  +3
                  If this is a bomb load of one drone, then the machine, where and by whom and no matter how it was assembled, was very powerful and could do a lot of nasty things. So do not scoff about the pioneers of aircraft models.
                  1. Spez
                    Spez 8 January 2018 20: 50
                    +2
                    I’m just talking about the seriousness of this topic.
                3. Baloo
                  Baloo 8 January 2018 21: 57
                  +4
                  Quote: Spez
                  I wrote about the bombs. In general, my knowledge obtained forty years ago in an aircraft modeling circle is quite enough to assemble an aircraft heavier than air in less than a week. which can fly to where it is needed, and with an average error of the GPS navigator, open the lock holding the warhead, or dive into a point on the map specified by the same navigator.

                  I confirm that around the first half of the 70s we assembled a device of about the same dimensions, but heavier. By design, it was intended to deliver mail to inaccessible places.
              2. Baloo
                Baloo 8 January 2018 21: 03
                +5
                The wingspan is more than 2 meters, judging by the stabilizer, the "chassis" and the keel-disposable product. Judging by the engine, it can cover all 70 km and lift the load up to 20 kg. if not more. A budget option. Are you sure that such people will not fly to you from the Gaza Strip or your beloved Jerusalem soon? Will you look for a Hizbalah hand?
                In Soviet times, many people engaged in aircraft modeling in eastern Europe, in each country several magazines for modelers. I won’t be surprised if a trace suddenly appears from eastern Europe or Ukraine. In Soviet childhood, we received control panels, engines, drives for such airplanes through DOSOAF. There were domestic engines, but low-power. so this is not the last attack, I venture to suggest that a new type of terrorism and blackmail may appear in other countries.
                1. Shahno
                  Shahno 8 January 2018 21: 37
                  +1
                  That and that. Not in the garage done. And obviously not for such strikes. Accuracy is not enough. EW is not suppressed. But the noise is fine. Provocation. Very good as false targets by the way.
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        2. mole
          mole 8 January 2018 19: 31
          +1
          Plastic for 3-D printer. No need to pour.
          1. svp67
            svp67 8 January 2018 19: 38
            +3
            Quote: Mole
            Plastic for 3-D printer. No need to pour.

            And if such a printer is used, it means that the quality is much higher.
            1. mole
              mole 8 January 2018 19: 51
              +5
              Buy write a printer, plastic and a program, and voila - stamp. From the photo the impression was left that it was specifically “nakolkhozili” with airplanes. The bombs and wings were neatly made, the fuselage - as if gastrobayters had been artisanal without education. Questions arise.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 19: 59
                +7
                Quote: Mole
                Buy a printer, plastic and a program to write, and voila - stamp

                Yeah ... just next you need another printer to print loot.
                The price will be ... horse.
                Quote: Mole
                fuselage - as if gastrobayters without education were handicrafts

                UAV disposableWhat beauty something to bring?
                This is IMHO, about the price - no.
                1. Spez
                  Spez 8 January 2018 20: 13
                  +3
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Yeah ... just next you need another printer to print loot.
                  The price will be ... horse.

                  A kilogram of plastic for a printer costs about 800-1000 rubles. printak consumes electricity like a regular laptop, one “bomb” will take five to six hours and 100-150g of plastic (approximately).
                  So, alas, technology is now available ..
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 20: 15
                    +4
                    I reacted to this:
                    Quote: Mole
                    fuselage - as if gastrobayters without education handicraft

                    Kohl past the topic - I beg your pardon hi
                    1. Spez
                      Spez 8 January 2018 20: 28
                      +1
                      Rather, I clarified and supplemented.
              2. Spez
                Spez 8 January 2018 20: 01
                +1
                Software does not even need to be written. On thematic forums in free and free access.
              3. Cetron
                Cetron 9 January 2018 00: 35
                0
                To fly, the wings and tail must be very accurately done, the fuselage is the tenth thing - there would be alignment with the load. (from the experience of pioneering aircraft modeling)
            2. Spez
              Spez 8 January 2018 20: 04
              +1
              the quality is not higher, but there it is not necessary. The main thing is that cheaply, quickly and once is enough.
              1. svp67
                svp67 8 January 2018 20: 37
                +3
                Quote: Spez
                the quality is not higher, but there it is not necessary.

                I'm not talking about UAVs, but "bombs." They look like "factory" ones, which means that they have higher accuracy of bombing.
                1. Spez
                  Spez 8 January 2018 20: 53
                  +2
                  Not critical above, but yes, I agree.
            3. Baloo
              Baloo 8 January 2018 21: 05
              +2
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: Mole
              Plastic for 3-D printer. No need to pour.

              And if such a printer is used, it means that the quality is much higher.

              On the contrary, this indicates the mass production of disposable products.
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 8 January 2018 19: 40
      +3
      So the "Automobile Base" and large shock drones planted in Iran.
      1. Strips
        Strips 8 January 2018 20: 08
        +1
        Quote: Kent0001
        So the "Automobile Base" and large shock drones planted in Iran.


        It is a myth.
        1. Dreamboat
          Dreamboat 9 January 2018 01: 05
          +1
          The myth that planted (as there is a photo and foam at the mouth of the Americans), but the "carpool" or someone else is not a myth, but a secret! soldier
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 8 January 2018 18: 55
    +8
    This is only the beginning and such attacks will become widespread. Just the United States and their slaves want to survive us from Syria, and in the long run from the region in general. And for this attack, they will go against us in the information field, and against our bases, as is the case, as always, with the diplomacy of the United States, with its favorite means of influence - lies, blackmail, bribery, promises and promises. In short, the whole spectrum of exposure on which the United States put a lot.
  9. cannabis
    cannabis 8 January 2018 18: 55
    +4
    In the recent past, there was some kind of whistle about the "dome" over the base. Idea dome? What is the comparative cost of a makeshift UAV and the rocket that killed it? Vietnam cost the USSR 6 million a day. How much Afghanistan cost I do not know. I want to know how much it costs us one day in Syria.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 8 January 2018 19: 05
      +7
      About the same. The shell is very cheap missiles. They have no GOS.
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 8 January 2018 19: 07
        +3
        Clear. Missiles are also homemade.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 8 January 2018 19: 08
          +8
          No, not homemade. They are primitive. And this is good. They are therefore cheap.
    2. poquello
      poquello 8 January 2018 19: 07
      +1
      Quote: cunning
      What is the comparative cost of a makeshift UAV and the rocket that killed it?

      ahem, they were probably shot
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 8 January 2018 19: 14
        +1
        So right, brought out for the pigsty and shot? Well done! Or wait, there are no pigsties ......
        1. poquello
          poquello 8 January 2018 19: 16
          +8
          Quote: cunning
          So right, brought out for the pigsty and shot? Well done! Or wait, there are no pigsties ......

          no, each shot down from c400
          )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) 000
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 8 January 2018 19: 24
            +6
            He does not know that the Shell is an anti-aircraft missilegun complex.
            1. poquello
              poquello 8 January 2018 19: 26
              +3
              Quote: Muvka
              He does not know that the Shell is an anti-aircraft missilegun complex.

              he didn’t look on youtube when they shot down
            2. cannabis
              cannabis 8 January 2018 19: 27
              +1
              I climbed the Tunguska in 1987. I do not think that it is very different from the Shell.
              1. poquello
                poquello 8 January 2018 19: 36
                +4
                Quote: cunning
                I climbed the Tunguska in 1987. I do not think that it is very different from the Shell.

                time is running
                1. cannabis
                  cannabis 8 January 2018 19: 43
                  0
                  Just do not convince me that Enta Pribluda can bring a piece of dynamite to the turn of 50 km! Aircraft type was told, with wings that is. And against this junk, you can use a helicopter, creating unacceptable for the flight of atmospheric turbulence. And to their land, and to the earth!
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 8 January 2018 19: 54
                    +5
                    Quote: cunning
                    Just do not convince me that Enta Pribluda can bring a piece of dynamite to the turn of 50 km! Aircraft type was told, with wings that is. And against this junk, you can use a helicopter, creating unacceptable for the flight of atmospheric turbulence. And to their land, and to the earth!

                    this is a frame from advertising, above the picture (not mine)
                    The scope is decent, the piston engine, maybe they couldn’t have inertial guidance, respectively, they extinguished their orientation and started planting - they got the trophies, they plant everything dangerous — sometimes they explode, respectively, they shot, and the main sight in the guns
    3. svp67
      svp67 8 January 2018 19: 40
      +4
      Quote: cunning
      What is the comparative cost of a makeshift UAV and the rocket that killed it?

      And who said something about ROCKET? The "Shell" for such "toys" and a pair of 30-mm barrels have ...
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 8 January 2018 20: 03
        0
        For a 30 mm gun, dispersion in a line of 4 shells at a range of 1000 meters is 4 by 4 meters. And what should be the consumption of shells to defeat this wick?
        1. svp67
          svp67 8 January 2018 20: 19
          +7
          Quote: cunning
          For a 30 mm gun, dispersion in a line of 4 shells at a range of 1000 meters is 4 by 4 meters.

          Why not 4 km? At an initial velocity of the projectile 960–980 m / s. - let you not believe ...
          1. cannabis
            cannabis 8 January 2018 20: 35
            0
            This is your business. According to the course of firing for hitting a BMP type target at a range of 900 - 1100 meters, 8 shells are given. Well, the BMP and UAV sizes are not comparable .....
            1. svp67
              svp67 8 January 2018 20: 40
              +4
              Quote: cunning
              This is your business. According to the course of firing for hitting a BMP type target at a range of 900 - 1100 meters, 8 shells are given. Well, the BMP and UAV sizes are not comparable .....

              Only you do not take into account the fact that the BMP has a free barrel, while the “Shell” has it in a “casing”, which increases its “rigidity”, which means accuracy. Well, do not discount that the “Shell” is liquid, forced barrel cooling. It’s like little things, but strongly affecting the accuracy of shooting.
              1. cannabis
                cannabis 8 January 2018 20: 48
                +2
                Dispersion laws are valid for all calibers and types of automation. So nature arranged. Yes, by the way, the law of dispersion applies to the human community.
            2. alexmach
              alexmach 9 January 2018 01: 20
              0
              Firstly, it was not about such an unmanned aerial vehicle, but about majesty with a wingspan of 2 meters.
              Secondly, they recently talked about the development of 30mm shells with a radio fuse for shell and other air defense systems.
              Thirdly, they showed special small anti-bpl carapace for armor.
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 20: 36
            +7
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: cunning
            For a 30 mm gun, dispersion in a line of 4 shells at a range of 1000 meters is 4 by 4 meters.

            Why not 4 km? At an initial velocity of the projectile 960–980 m / s. - let you not believe ...

            IMHO cannabis says that he saw himself.
            And he saw 2A28 Thunder. And there, the initial speed is definitely not 960–980 m / s.
            Like this request
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 8 January 2018 22: 00
              +4
              Thunder stood on the first BMP, but it was 73 mm, and on the second it was already 30 mm. Moreover, they could put some new shells for the Shell, especially those working against UAVs.
              1. assa67
                assa67 8 January 2018 22: 52
                +7
                Sergey, welcome hi .... against small and low-speed high-speed targets there is a "bullet cloud" mode on the "shell" ... explosive shells on the leading trajectory create a veil of fragments ...
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 9 January 2018 00: 57
                  +4
                  Hi Andrew hi Yeah, thanks, that's exactly what I imagined. It’s like a fraction of a duck. repeat wink
        2. Dreamboat
          Dreamboat 9 January 2018 01: 23
          +1
          You confuse the 2A38M Carapace (there are 2x2 machine guns there) and 2A42 ... these are completely different guns. Well, absolutely ... And even in spite of one caliber, shells are not interchangeable.
          Well, if you think that all weapons of the same caliber shoot with one accuracy, then .....
    4. Kent0001
      Kent0001 8 January 2018 19: 42
      +8
      It costs us the absence of the Qatar-Europe gas pipeline and our gas supplies. Therefore, I propose ... as if softer .. well, you understand me.
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 8 January 2018 19: 58
        +3
        I realized only one thing: gas in my kitchen is 7 times more expensive than the one that is sold in Europe.
        1. NKT
          NKT 8 January 2018 20: 08
          +3
          And how much does it cost you 1 m3 of gas?
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 20: 23
            +7
            Quote: NKT
            How much does 1 m3 of gas cost?

            According to what is written
            Quote: NKT
            gas in my kitchen is 7 times more expensive than the one sold in Europe

            , then somewhere from 50 rubles / cubic meter belay
        2. Muvka
          Muvka 8 January 2018 20: 50
          +4
          Quote: cunning
          I realized only one thing: gas in my kitchen is 7 times more expensive than the one that is sold in Europe.

          Please share your gas prices. Very interesting. I am in shock. Here, in the Ivanovo Region, home delivery is more than 2 times cheaper than in the middle European country to the border, and not to the end user (the price is still rising there). At the same time, I have a retail price for gas, and the figures that we are told about Europe are wholesale. Those. 3-4 times cheaper in the end it turns out.
        3. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 8 January 2018 20: 52
          +2
          This is where such gas prices? As far as I know, the cost of gas for Europe is 180-190 dollars per 1000 cubic meters, i.e. about 11 rubles per 1 cubic meter. While living in Adygea, I pay for gas at 5,8 rubles per cubic meter.
          1. NKT
            NKT 8 January 2018 21: 02
            +2
            Well, yes, something like this is:

            Kazakhstan - 3.1 r / m3
            Russia - 5.7 r / m3
            Belarus - 6.5 r / m3
            Ukraine - 14.9 r / m3
            .........
            Spain - 55.9 r / m3
            Sweden - 74.5 r / m3


            https://promdevelop.ru/news/tseny-na-prirodnyj-ga
            zv-raznyh-stranah-v-2017-godu-rejting-tsen-na-ga
            z-po-stranam /
          2. Muvka
            Muvka 8 January 2018 21: 10
            +1
            Quote: Servisinzhener
            This is where such gas prices? As far as I know, the cost of gas for Europe is 180-190 dollars per 1000 cubic meters, i.e. about 11 rubles per 1 cubic meter. While living in Adygea, I pay for gas at 5,8 rubles per cubic meter.

            You should be aware that you are buying retail gas with home delivery, and the prices in Europe are wholesale, with delivery to the border.
            1. Servisinzhener
              Servisinzhener 9 January 2018 11: 06
              +1
              I took wholesale European prices with delivery to the border to show that even they are 2 times higher than domestic ones. And if you take the price for consumers, the difference will be even more serious. Maybe they mean the price of propane in cylinders in terms of cubic meters ....
    5. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 8 January 2018 19: 48
      11
      Quote: cunning
      Vietnam cost the USSR 6 million a day. How much Afghanistan cost I do not know. I want to know how much it costs us one day in Syria

      Take in your hands the "divine calculator" and consider how much the terrorist attacks cost us in Budenovsk, Beslan, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Volgograd, Kaspiysk and in other ............. ???????? ????
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 8 January 2018 19: 54
        +1
        Pick up the remote control and watch about the terrorist attacks in St. Petersburg. Found an argument .....
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 8 January 2018 20: 53
          +4
          AND? The latest attack did not take a single life. And then hundreds of people died.
    6. Lock36
      Lock36 8 January 2018 20: 00
      +5
      Katz offers to surrender?
    7. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 8 January 2018 20: 07
      17
      The shell is an anti-aircraft missile and cannon system. It’s not necessary to shoot down a rocket.
      By the way, when calculating the cost of the target and the spent ammunition, it is necessary, first of all, to bear in mind the cost of the prevented damage. Those. salvaged equipment.
      And not everything can be measured by the number of banknotes. Will the saved lives of the fighters be evaluated on the calculator too?
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 8 January 2018 20: 16
        +2
        And the conversation is not about money at all. We are talking about VALUE. Will our industry pull such a challenge in supplying troops. If it pulls, then for how long. And what our industry can offer in return. After all, referring to the past, it can be assumed that having stocks of aviation kerosene for manufactured 2000 jet aircraft, Germany could turn the tide of the war.
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 8 January 2018 20: 21
          +1
          Quote: cunning
          Will our industry pull such a challenge in supplying troops. If it pulls, then for how long.


          In fact, if we talk seriously about the task of supplying troops, cost, timing and reserves - it is not on this site. You yourself understand this very well.
        2. not main
          not main 8 January 2018 22: 57
          +1
          Quote: cunning
          And the conversation is not about money at all. We are talking about VALUE. Will our industry pull such a challenge in supplying troops. If it pulls, then for how long. And what our industry can offer in return. After all, referring to the past, it can be assumed that having stocks of aviation kerosene for manufactured 2000 jet aircraft, Germany could turn the tide of the war.

          Nonsense is complete! Victory ensured infantry! Air forces during WWII were used as support for infantry or the Navy! And then, how many engines were there? Therefore, the complete nonsense !!!
          1. cannabis
            cannabis 9 January 2018 05: 56
            0
            The nonsense is full, thin and simply plump! The victory was ensured, ensured and will be ensured by the ARTILLERY (RV and A), subject to absolute air supremacy!
        3. alexmach
          alexmach 9 January 2018 01: 28
          0
          And what our industry can offer in return.

          It seems to me that in addition to the already mentioned
          1. EW
          2. Small shell rockets
          3. 30mm shells with programmable detonation.

          It would make sense to develop air defense systems with larger caliber guns (57 mm for example) and the same radio fuse or programmable detonation.
          Well, all the other options available now - lasers, small electronic warfare systems, and own fighter UAVs.
        4. Dreamboat
          Dreamboat 9 January 2018 01: 35
          +3
          You don’t need to go to school tomorrow?
          1. The army should, if not fight, then train. How much does a “target plane” cost to train the calculation of the Shell or S-400 you know? and the provision and protection of the landfill at the time of launch? This is a plus for shells and missiles ... So do not be clever!
          2. Even during the Second World War, aircraft were not made of kerosene ....
          3. Working models of jet aircraft appeared in Germany at that stage of the war, when nothing would have changed, well, maybe except for the terms of agony .... and they went astray with piston fighters better than the old MEZHs, since they were not finalized in handling and aerodynamics . Well, this is to broaden their horizons ...
          Before you write comments, tighten the materiel!
          1. cannabis
            cannabis 9 January 2018 06: 02
            0
            Kinder, jet aircraft in Germany appeared in 1942. You read the sky of Pokryshkin’s war, there it is for people like you talking about jet planes, and your broad horizons will deepen.
  10. flicker
    flicker 8 January 2018 18: 57
    12
    Oh, what a bummer for Russophobia.
    Now they would have come out with poison: "how, how they let it go, how it was allowed, why did the troops withdraw, why are we talking about victory, why did we get involved, do we have few things to do in the country, etc. ????"
    By the way, did you list everything or what else is left?
  11. Shahno
    Shahno 8 January 2018 19: 02
    +2
    And why it is not clear what kind of UAV. Model, manufacturer. Or the secret of the company. Manually assembled, drums on 50 km, it is unlikely ... Yes, even with improvised ammunition. Yes, which is not a pity to lose. What kind of UAV is this?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 8 January 2018 19: 04
      +7
      Normal KB Idlib. They regularly use these. But about 50km bends MO.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 8 January 2018 19: 15
      +4
      An UAV is an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle! And that’s all. But it’s self-made, reeled up with adhesive tape, or factory-made - this does not change the essence.
      A motor from a chainsaw, wings from a model from an aircraft designer ... Ammunition - anyway. The main thing is how they manage and what feedback system they have ...
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 8 January 2018 19: 18
        +2
        Oh oh GPS controlled yes at 50 km.
        1. poquello
          poquello 8 January 2018 19: 22
          +4
          Quote: Shahno
          Oh oh GPS controlled yes at 50 km.

          without a plastic case and a propeller in the ass, this pepelats cannot fly, no matter how much you wipe it with a rag, it won’t fly
          ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
          1. insular
            insular 9 January 2018 03: 42
            +3
            Quote: poquello
            without a plastic case and a propeller in the ass, this pepelats cannot fly, no matter how much you wipe it with a rag, it won’t fly

            Right! And PO-2 did not fly 430 km ... Maximum 10, it was wooden and there was only 90 kg of fuel on board ... wassat hi
      2. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 8 January 2018 19: 54
        +3
        You know, one of the leading U.S. FIOMs for drones (AeroVironment) just started with an airplane model mug. This time they release all kinds of Poynter and RQ-14, and initially the founder of the company was the winner of various aircraft modeling competitions
        1. Romulus
          Romulus 9 January 2018 03: 49
          0
          Quote: Evgeniy667b
          You know, one of the leading U.S. FIOMs on drones (AeroVironment)

          There is a book about Amer’s drones on flibust - "Liquidator. Notes of a combat drone operator", a very informative reading about predators and reapers. Unfortunately, I don’t remember the authors hi
  12. Karaul73
    Karaul73 8 January 2018 19: 06
    +3
    Quote: Thrall
    Quote: jolly deckhand
    Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

    Here are the official photos of intercepted drones and "bombs":


    https://m.vk.com/wall-133441491_120281

    And this miracle could fly 50 km? It is doubtful somehow.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 8 January 2018 19: 16
      +3
      10 km max. Better to tell the truth, not half the truth.
      1. srelock
        srelock 9 January 2018 02: 20
        +3
        Quote: Shahno
        ... It’s better to tell the truth, not half the truth.

        I agree. Totally ...


        In general, bearded pioneers in sneakers have room to grow:


        In this connection, the question arose: How soon will we find out whether the Liquid Dome is capable of intercepting such targets?
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 8 January 2018 19: 30
      0
      Quote: Sentry73
      And this miracle could fly 50 km?

      It depends on what’s inside. Outwardly, he does not look very good, but did they themselves make it, or just wrapped it with tape?
  13. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 8 January 2018 19: 11
    +8
    In general, it was necessary for a long time to clear the northwest of Syria from all kinds of fighters with the regime there. for good reason all this is the probing of our air defense. The main thing is that in the vicinity there shouldn’t be anything uncontrollable and long-range
  14. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 8 January 2018 19: 16
    11
    Quote: cunning
    I want to know how much it costs us one day in Syria.

    The price of your life, for example, will suit you?
  15. Andvigor
    Andvigor 8 January 2018 19: 17
    +2
    Very useful training and experience. Alas, nothing else. It is necessary to bring down, gain experience and statistics and improve your weapons!
  16. loki565
    loki565 8 January 2018 19: 25
    +6
    These drones are not a joke; they even manage to knock out abrams, as well as haamers and manpower. If flew to the airport, suffered heavy losses

  17. Shahno
    Shahno 8 January 2018 19: 26
    +7
    In principle, if such a trifle was hit by a shell, well, even half. Already very, very not bad.
  18. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 8 January 2018 19: 34
    +2
    This is the answer to those who doubted the ability of our air defense to pinpoint targets with low ESR. I think these wooden airplanes have no more EPR than the F-35.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 8 January 2018 19: 37
      +1
      Of course they can pinpoint. Comparing slightly incomparable things. Arabs obviously didn’t really learn how to attack bases using UAVs ... it’s not from evil.
      1. _Jack_
        _Jack_ 8 January 2018 19: 56
        +6
        not really learned ... it's not from evil
        why not very learned not from evil?
        Of course they can pinpoint.
        Well, firstly, not only to pinpoint - like everything was either shot down or planted, and secondly, some of your fellow countrymen here say that the targets with EPR are a few cm. And here they see and shoot down, that's bad luck.
    2. Sauron80
      Sauron80 8 January 2018 19: 47
      +1
      The question is not "detect or not detect", but the question "at what distance to detect" in order to have time to do something. Everything that flies in the sky so it can be seen, the question is only from what distance and at what altitude.
  19. Doliva63
    Doliva63 8 January 2018 19: 38
    +6
    "detonated from a collision with the ground"
    I remember from somewhere that ammunition explodes from a collision with the ground. And detonate from the explosion. Army reform ongoing? laughing
    1. Spez
      Spez 9 January 2018 04: 53
      +1
      Detonation
      (french. détoner - to explode, from lat. detono - thunder)
      The process of chemical transformation of explosives, accompanied by the release of energy and propagating through the substance in the form of waves from one layer to another with supersonic speed. Instant chemical conversion of an explosive (explosion) with the release of large energy caused by the explosion of another substance or concussion, blow
  20. shura7782
    shura7782 8 January 2018 19: 46
    +1
    We do not yet know the whole truth. Earlier it was written about mortar shelling at 24.00, but here it is silent about him. Dark business. Apparently, in fact, things are much worse. If someone is confused by the location of the airfield, then with the current capabilities of the UAV, any other place could be worse.
  21. loginovich
    loginovich 8 January 2018 19: 51
    +2
    For the New Year, two were killed, seven aircraft were damaged, and after a week the drone attack was repelled, all losses were lost, full of chocolate. And the conclusions were drawn so quickly that I could not believe it. A barmolei instead of using successful tactics. There is no carapace to leave the mines again. It is strange like that.
    1. dSK
      dSK 8 January 2018 20: 57
      +1
      Quote: loginovich
      Strange as that.

      Security is being strengthened, a lot of work, base for 49 years, with subsequent extension. There will be concrete shelters for aircraft ....
      1. loginovich
        loginovich 8 January 2018 22: 44
        0
        How to strengthen? the troops withdrew. Like a magic wand. The times and defense are lined up. I don’t believe in a magic wand.
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 8 January 2018 20: 57
      +1
      Nothing strange. Mines Shell does not really intercept means, and drones - easily. The second has been known for a long time.
    3. Shahno
      Shahno 8 January 2018 21: 04
      +2
      Or maybe the militants didn’t launch it at all ... The answer may be in the information war. Lazhanulsya only with 50 km.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 8 January 2018 21: 12
        +3
        You all know better from the sofa. We already understood that. Do not litter the forum.
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 8 January 2018 21: 19
          +1
          Yes. I will not litter. Think correctly as the party commands. Simply doubt arose. And so, now yes on the couch. After the shift.
      2. loginovich
        loginovich 8 January 2018 22: 45
        0
        I think this is closer to the truth.
  22. flicker
    flicker 8 January 2018 19: 55
    +6
    It seems that a new method of sabotage has been launched into mass use: now unknown terrorists will attack any enemy objects with the help of "artisanal" UAVs capable of covering a distance of 50 km, while at 50, it will probably be necessary to overcome much more.
    Oh well.
    Dangerous gin released from a jug.
  23. bald
    bald 8 January 2018 20: 02
    +2
    If you really spotted a take-off point negative
  24. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 January 2018 20: 19
    +4
    Fans of criticizing the Union and the war in Afghanistan, well, the same rake is only a side view. Then, at least because of the lack of elections, they did not declare every year about victory over the spirits. Now the whole truth, we learn only when the power changes.
    1. shura7782
      shura7782 8 January 2018 20: 30
      +1
      the whole truth, we will know only when the power changes.
      I think that much earlier, first-hand. The guys will return home and find out everything.
    2. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 8 January 2018 20: 56
      +1
      And who should be replaced by interesting?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 8 January 2018 21: 53
        +3
        And who should be replaced by interesting?
        And that is true. After Putin 3, now we weber Putin the fourth, and then, so as not to bother Putin's countless.
        1. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 9 January 2018 11: 10
          0
          All people are mortal, so if Putin is not happy with you, you just have to wait a bit.
  25. arhPavel
    arhPavel 8 January 2018 20: 26
    +1
    Englishwoman shits ...
  26. anosoff
    anosoff 8 January 2018 20: 26
    +7
    This is one I noticed (from a statement by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation) that these drones can be used for any other purpose in any other country fellow . In my opinion this is a hint to our inveterate partners. soldier
    1. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 9 January 2018 01: 43
      0
      Well, we already have five pieces with ammunition, if anything, they say "Made in Idlib" .... request
  27. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 8 January 2018 20: 44
    +2
    Syria used 13 strike drones while trying to attack the Russian bases Khmeimim and Tartus on the night of ...
    With the help of modeling instructors, crazy hands can use 113 recourse

    1. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 9 January 2018 01: 49
      0
      Well, then it’s necessary, as in the Soviet cartoon they said: "The dead do not bite" ...
  28. Mentat
    Mentat 8 January 2018 20: 58
    +5
    Quote: jolly deckhand
    Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

    Listen, "brilliant agent of influence", isn’t you too lazy to shove all kinds of nonsense throughout the forum?
    Or do you have delusions of grandeur and you bang under your breath at the same time: “I am smarter than everyone, I’m smarter than everyone, how imperceptible I am, how awesome I am”
    Or are you so addicted to your “work, but I live poorly” that your face is crooked by the awareness of the delirium that you are scribbling, but where to go, the toad presses?
  29. Don Analyst
    Don Analyst 8 January 2018 21: 03
    +2
    Good luck guys!
    It is necessary to think over the answer - who supplies the watering in the toilets!
  30. Mentat
    Mentat 8 January 2018 21: 12
    +3
    Quote: Sentry73
    Quote: Thrall
    Quote: jolly deckhand
    Okay to lie. That's what was used, on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

    Here are the official photos of intercepted drones and "bombs":


    https://m.vk.com/wall-133441491_120281

    And this miracle could fly 50 km? It is doubtful somehow.

    From the mountains, which are just about 50 km away, it will fly to the lowland to the sea.
    1. serriy
      serriy 8 January 2018 23: 48
      +2
      Will it reach the American base? lol
      And if 13 barmalei go there (to the Americans) (well, sometimes barmalei are different) they launch, will the Americans catch them? No. Well interesting!
      And that’s all Hmeimim, yes Hmeimim. In one gate. There must be a variety of news. drinks
      And there is also Afghanistan, there are Americans and barmaleys who do not like amers. good
      It is necessary to work with barmaleys, to direct it correctly. Humanitarian aid is not something, it is aboriginal corrupting. Neither Americans nor Europeans bother with humanitarian aid.
  31. Mentat
    Mentat 8 January 2018 21: 15
    +5
    Quote: jolly deckhand
    People who took a direct part, and we have enough of them in the province, have someone to listen to, believe me

    People who directly participated give a non-disclosure subscription. Correct the foil on the head.
  32. Mentat
    Mentat 8 January 2018 21: 18
    +7
    Quote: Shahno
    10 km max. Better to tell the truth, not half the truth.

    It’s much better not to write nonsense. In 50 km of the mountain, from there even just a glider can go down to the sea.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 8 January 2018 21: 46
      0
      You can bring it. But those photos that I saw, there’s nothing to explain. It will fly to 10 km.
  33. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 8 January 2018 21: 34
    +2
    Two facts are pleasing that they discovered ahead of time and that the Rebovts worked 5 points
  34. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 8 January 2018 21: 42
    +3
    It’s all the business of the Merikans under the ISIS, And it’s possible that the Merikans simply transferred the bandits through the CIA. Soon the same will bomb the bastards themselves in Afghanistan, and wherever they are in the Middle East.
  35. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 8 January 2018 21: 49
    +1
    An article by the military expert Anton Mardasov, “Terrorist threats. Unmanned program of the Islamic State” (UAV.ru magazine), which noted that the IG typically uses small-sized “drones” purchased in online stores, turning them into flying bombs or equipping them with mechanisms to drop bombs on a target. Often the IS used the Chinese unmanned aircraft Skywalker X8, X-UAV Talon, Skyhunter, etc. They also used conventional quadrocopters.
  36. Chaos
    Chaos 8 January 2018 21: 55
    0
    And how are our nuclear power plants protected? It is urgent to put shells and reinforced concrete domes over the reactor.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 8 January 2018 22: 09
      +5
      If you were interested in the topic, you would know that nuclear reactors are protected by a concrete dome, designed to drop a passenger liner on it.
  37. Baloo
    Baloo 8 January 2018 22: 04
    +4
    Quote: Sentry73
    And this miracle could fly 50 km? It is doubtful somehow.

    This is because you did not do airplane modeling at school. Pay attention to the wingspan and engine size. This device is for flying at low altitudes and long distances.
  38. Maz
    Maz 8 January 2018 22: 49
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: jolly deckhand
    That's what was used - on the knee collected "creativity of the house of pioneers" ...

    Only in order to control the UAV at a distance of 50 km and equip it with the necessary engine and equipment, the Pioneer House should be too cool, but what could be planted ...


    A house of pioneers with a satellite and jeepies, with night navigation, reference points and duplicated control points, a control system ... And does it have such a thing? With a neighbor, with distant coalition partners. Oh, and no one else! What tactlessness .- give out other people's vile secrets. And the image, and PR, and the face? And respect in the world? But I still think why the US base in Turkey, Iraq, Jordan, Israel, Crete? And Schaub drones flocked at night over Himeim, Latakia, Deir, Kaliningrad, Pskov, Crimea .... They train, then they can fly to the NPM. And we have the Olympics on the nose and the World Cup. Draw conclusions
    1. insular
      insular 9 January 2018 03: 09
      +1
      Quote: Maz
      Oh, and no one else!

      And then, suddenly Aliexpress ...
  39. Edvid
    Edvid 8 January 2018 23: 46
    0
    Shooting cannons at flea targets is ineffective. For the "Shell" it is necessary to create a special ammunition against drones, similar to hunting ducks - a cartridge with a lot of shots. At short ranges, such a shot gives a large area of ​​destruction, and the turn will create an insurmountable barrier to small targets at all.
    1. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 9 January 2018 01: 57
      0
      We already discussed this a week ago .... the fraction is effective at very short distances, when it is too late to intercept - it has “flown in”, and the air defense system should cover a section of the front a few kilometers away.
  40. Zomanus
    Zomanus 9 January 2018 00: 22
    0
    That is our electronic warfare start of testing in real combat conditions.
    I think that improved versions will soon go, taking into account this experience.
    But now everything has passed with dignity.
    What about the appearance of the drones, so there is initially a one-way flight
    planned, and therefore look like assembled from Mr. and sticks.
    But they do not become less dangerous from this.
  41. flicker
    flicker 9 January 2018 01: 01
    +2
    The Russian Defense Ministry has already expressed concerns about the use of drones.
    Togo and look, mugs on aircraft modeling will become the most popular in BV. There will be no life at all there - at least you eat weapons there, it remains to fill up with drones and daily adventures will begin.
    Moreover, as they write above, these drones can be done on their knees.
  42. huntsman650
    huntsman650 9 January 2018 01: 06
    0
    Tighten the mesh netting.
  43. Sergey Nikolaevich.
    Sergey Nikolaevich. 9 January 2018 04: 56
    0
    As soon as they determined the launch site, immediately retaliation action ..
  44. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 9 January 2018 05: 00
    +1
    Good is not enough !! - who wants to die from such shit? The death of a general should alert everyone.
  45. Slon1978
    Slon1978 9 January 2018 09: 27
    0
    That intercepted is good. But maybe it’s still worth it to “go broke” on concrete caponiers for aircraft or at least put gabions, blocked from above. The question is basically cheap, I sincerely do not understand why this has not been done so far. In 2016, the concrete runway was restored in a matter of days, why didn’t they build shelters for equipment?
  46. Irbenwolf
    Irbenwolf 9 January 2018 09: 49
    0
    It is remarkable that the Russian Ministry of Defense faced a similar problem in conflicts so remote from Russia. This is a little blood experience. There is a need for unmanned drones and other more primitive means
  47. ASG7
    ASG7 9 January 2018 14: 16
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    I hope that everyone who read the air defense and electronic warfare operation algorithm is also calculated and destroyed.
    After all, what happens - on December 31, rocket and mortar shelling of our air base is underway, respectively, the air defense is sinking, since the targets are very complex and it puts our military in an alarming state to prevent what happened;
    - January 4 is massaging the attack of the UAV air base (a relatively easy target), in the expectation that the military will use the entire combat complex without restrictions on secrecy;
    - Some "friends" read all the information on countermeasures and develop their own algorithms for overcoming our air defense.
    - Well, it remains to wait for the next dirty trick, in which the methods of overcoming air defense and electronic warfare will be checked (the nature and measure of the damage caused do not interest them, so it can be just a balloon that our people can’t intercept).
  48. Edvid
    Edvid 10 January 2018 00: 49
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    Quote: Dreamboat
    We already discussed this a week ago .... the fraction is effective at very short distances, when it is too late to intercept - it has “flown in”, and the air defense system should cover a section of the front a few kilometers away.

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    About cartridges with a fraction - only figuratively. To increase the firing range, the projectile must fly out whole, and at a certain distance from the target or from the cannon independently shoot shrapnel with a cloud, it is possible with the addition of conductive dust (graphite ...). There is something for designers to think about. After all, it is desirable to automate the process of changing the delay of detonation, and this will be a different, more advanced complex.