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APU is considering the acquisition of Indian trucks Tata

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The Ukrainian Boryspil Automobile Plant (BAZ), part of the Etalon concern, is developing a new market segment - Tata all-wheel drive trucks, reports bmpd with reference to the resource Autocentre.ua.




“Today in the Ukrainian army there are more than one thousand obsolete GAZ-66, which need to be replaced. Boryspil Automobile Plant, which has many years of experience in assembling Indian trucks Tata LPT 713, in 2017, released the first car with the wheel formula 4х4. This is the LPTA 713 TC model, ”writes resource.

The publication has published photos of the Tata LPTA 713 TC at a military training ground in Ukraine. As you can see, the car tows the anti-aircraft unit ZU-23. In contrast to the Indian donor, “the car received a slightly different onboard body - without cutouts for the rear wheels and another awning. The wheel is already on the left, and the sunroof is on the right ”, according to the material.

Sergey Zhelevsky, Chairman of the Board of Boryspil Automobile Plant, told about the press conference in Kiev at the press conference in Kiev.

According to the resource, “Tata LPTA 713 TC has a total mass of 5,15 t, carrying capacity - 2,5 t. (500 kg carries more than GAZ-66), length - 5,75 m, width - 2,16 m and height - 2,85 m”.

The machine comes with a Tata 6-cylinder turbo diesel with an 125 horsepower. environmental standard Euro 2. Maximum speed - 82 km / h. On one tank, the car can drive to 800 km. At the same time, the Tata LPTA 713 TC (4х4) is able to overcome rises with a steepness up to 70%, slopes with a slope of up to 30% and a ford with a depth of 0,65 m, and also take a wall in 0,5 m.



Bmpd comment: “CJSC Borispolsky Automobile Plant, which is the head office of the corporation Etalon, is located in the Kiev region. Since 2002, BAZ has a small-scale assembly for the Ukrainian market of various trucks of the Indian group Tata, and also produces buses based on the Tata chassis. Since 2008, production has repeatedly stopped, and the company itself was chronically unprofitable. In 2015-2017, the plant was practically idle. As for the military trucks of the Indian company Tata Motors, a member of the Tata group, these vehicles traditionally find a certain demand in poor developing countries. In the period after 2000, Tata Motors exports an average of around 400-500 military vehicles per year. ”

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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 8 January 2018 15: 21
    +3
    Hindus naaarite well on this if I repeat, if ukroina pay for the license! And if he doesn’t pay, then the Indians must create a dancing version of the car for ukroyn, so that she doesn’t feel the road under the wheels, so that she mercilessly walks on the highway! !! lol
    1. volodya
      volodya 8 January 2018 15: 26
      +5
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Hindus are pretty good at this

      . Would buy better submarines!
      1. 210ox
        210ox 8 January 2018 15: 33
        +1
        If you don’t have your own, let them buy ..
        Quote: volodya
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Hindus are pretty good at this

        . Would buy better submarines!
        1. hrych
          hrych 8 January 2018 15: 55
          +5
          Quote: 210ox
          If you don’t have your own, let them buy ..

          After the killings in Odessa and the Donbass:
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 8 January 2018 15: 35
        +6
        Quote: volodya
        . Would buy better submarines!

        Would buy better on DVD movies Disco Dancer and Zita and Gita ...
        1. Pirogov
          Pirogov 8 January 2018 15: 48
          11
          Quote: NEXUS
          Would buy better on DVD movies Disco Dancer and Zita and Gita ...

          There are nowhere to put their jumping jumpers and dancers. Gita and Zita just smoke in comparison with Svidomo activists.
          1. hrych
            hrych 8 January 2018 15: 54
            +5
            Quote: Pirogov
            There are nowhere to put their jumping jumpers and dancers

          2. sabakina
            sabakina 8 January 2018 16: 55
            +4
            Pirogov, well, don’t tell me, it’s impossible to sing the funeral with such patience!
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K 8 January 2018 15: 29
      11
      ... APU are considering the acquisition of Indian Tata trucks ...

      No more than another loophole for cutting budget money ...
      On the other hand, the more they saw, the less equipment is in the Donbass ...
      Let them choke and tear each other for their sucks at a meager budget trough, in the Donbass it will breathe cleaner ...
      PS
      In 2014, the plant produced 110 buses and completed the year with a loss of 22,6 million hryvnias. As of the beginning of 2015, the number of plant employees was 207 people - 22 employees less than by the beginning of 2014. In January 2015, the plant was stopped. In 2015, the plant produced 3 cars.
      In 2016 and in January - November 2017, the plant did not produce a single unit of automotive equipment.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 8 January 2018 15: 48
        +1
        APU is considering the acquisition of Indian trucks Tata
        buy in our "bakery" ... rumored for rumors ...
      2. Antares
        Antares 8 January 2018 21: 01
        +2
        Quote: Andrey K
        In 2016 and in January - November 2017, the plant did not produce a single unit of automotive equipment

        at this factory of the Etalon corporation the whole story is like that, then there’s a bunch of none.
        In 2009, the plant did not produce a single bus and completed 2009 with a loss of 56,131 million hryvnias
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. tol100v
      tol100v 8 January 2018 16: 08
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      And if you don’t pay, then the Indians must create for ukroiny

      To create for dill not a dancing, but a jumping MODEL!
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 8 January 2018 16: 32
      +1
      Now the APU will have a personal "stenolaz". lol
  2. Kurare
    Kurare 8 January 2018 15: 23
    +7
    I don’t know about army trucks, but TATA Motors cars are something!
    Somehow I had a chance to ride on a TATA car which was only about a year old. I have not heard such a creak and squeal in a "modern" car for a long time. Quality is very bad. The iron on the wings has already begun to rust. A bunch of features no longer worked. In general - a bag with rusty bolts. Here is an impression of the Indian car industry.
    If the "it" of the Armed Forces is necessary - the breakthrough is just around the corner!
    1. forester
      forester 8 January 2018 15: 30
      +4
      To paraphrase a famous saying - there are good cars, bad cars and Indian cars)))
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 8 January 2018 15: 33
        +4
        Quote: forester
        ..and Indian cars

        Yes, this machine could be called with a soooooo big stretch!
      2. tol100v
        tol100v 8 January 2018 16: 17
        +1
        Quote: forester
        To paraphrase a famous saying - there are good cars, bad cars and Indian cars)))

        A drowning man grabs a straw! (Proverb) And Ukrainians are clutching at a lead straw!
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 8 January 2018 16: 13
      +2
      In the early nineties we ran: Tata minibuses and I can give the driver’s opinion: of course better than the old UAZ (remember the loaves!), But the five-year Merce is better than two year-old tattoos
    3. tracer
      tracer 8 January 2018 17: 35
      +2
      “But she will show herself in the dance.” Not the Indians engineers, not the engineers. I speak only because I know. A maximum of narrow focus will be done even then badly. But "wider" to look at vlprosy or God forbid themselves can not come up with. It is interesting to look at the Hindu dance “BATL” in the dark for the price of a license. Haremongers are already preparing ...
  3. Grits
    Grits 8 January 2018 15: 30
    12
    But we did not find a replacement for the legendary Gaz-66. Kamaz Airborne (the one that is short and 4 to 4) amuse with its huge cabin. Gaz-Sadko, also increased in size by a whole hood with an engine, losing the legendary patency of Shishigi. "Vodnik" did not appeal to the military. All the rest (all kinds of "Wolves" and others) flaunt only in advertising booklets and at exhibitions in single copies. Does the military really not need a Shishigi class car to transport a couple of tons of cargo, tow a mortar, or throw DRG with equipment closer to the right place?
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 8 January 2018 15: 37
      +4
      Quote: Gritsa
      Gaz-Sadko, also increased in size by a whole hood with an engine, losing the legendary patency of Shishigi.

      I can’t say anything about Sadko’s cross-country ability in comparison with ShiShiga, there are no information and comparisons, but I refused the hoodless options with intent: it’s much easier to repair, especially in the field, easier to drive a car (for example, switching speeds), the driver and passengers do not sit on front axle.
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 8 January 2018 16: 20
      +3
      Quote: Gritsa
      And we did not find a replacement for the legendary Gaz-66

      Shishige add comfort "Toyota" and it will not be equal! Although Toyota from the "Shishigi" tore off a lot!
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 8 January 2018 17: 42
        +3
        Quote: Tol100v
        Shishige add comfort

        First of all, 66m I need a high-torque diesel engine, secondly, to increase the reliability of differentials .. We have the 66th, men go fishing .. The engine has already been changed, and the GP has been changed in the field, after 10km in the spring swamp .., a conservation car with a minimum mileage .
        1. cannabis
          cannabis 8 January 2018 19: 23
          0
          For dirt, a car with a carburetor engine is preferable - the engine does not have a speed control, like a diesel engine. Therefore, the car goes without slipping into the so-called "broach".
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 8 January 2018 20: 17
            +3
            Quote: cunning
            For dirt, a car with a carburetor engine is preferable - the engine does not have a speed control, like a diesel engine. Therefore, the car goes without slipping into the so-called "broach".

            What is this nonsense? What does the carburetor do not have ..? Speed ​​control? Do these engines always work at the same speed?
            I explain .. The diesel engine has a high torque from the bottom, so they are preferable for hard work .. to carry something, move slowly with a heavy load .. want to challenge? Welkom .. type of traction equipment where gasoline internal combustion engines are used ..?
            1. cannabis
              cannabis 8 January 2018 20: 26
              0
              You probably are unfamiliar with the design of a diesel engine. Understand please. Otherwise, there is simply no point in the dialogue.
              1. dvina71
                dvina71 8 January 2018 20: 28
                +3
                Quote: cunning
                You probably are unfamiliar with the design of a diesel engine. Understand please. Otherwise, there is simply no point in the dialogue.

                I really have nothing to discuss with you .. You need to be taught .. and I have no desire for it ..
                I am a mechanical engineer by training, went through dozens of engines .. now I have two trucks with diesel engines .. and believe me .. I won’t buy a truck with a gasoline ..
                1. Amurets
                  Amurets 8 January 2018 23: 52
                  +3
                  Quote: dvina71
                  I am a mechanical engineer by training, went through dozens of engines .. now I have two trucks with diesel engines .. and believe me .. I won’t buy a truck with a gasoline ..

                  I agree, completely. At the end of the 90s, the men willingly took “shishigi” from us and remade them for the D-243 diesel from Belarus MTZ-80. In speed they lost a lot, but the thrust was amazing. About "Sadko." There weren’t any particular problems, except for one - the frame behind the cabin was constantly bursting, this is about the diesel version with the D-245 Diesel of various modifications, we quickly abandoned the Sadko carburetor and there were two or three. It seems that “Sadko” appeared with the new YaMZ-530 series, I have not seen so. The operating conditions are the most difficult, the company was mining, the machines worked for geologists.
      2. locos
        locos 8 January 2018 18: 14
        +1
        What did Toyota rip off?
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 8 January 2018 18: 43
          0
          Quote: Locos
          What did Toyota rip off?

          Yes, a lot of things .. this company began its thorny way with the most accurate copying of an English car .., even copied the holes that remained from the tests of various units .. Lexus ... doesn’t you mean anything? LS 430 .. for example ..
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 8 January 2018 17: 04
      +3
      Quote: Gritsa
      But we did not find a replacement for the legendary Gaz-66. Kamaz Airborne (the one that is short and 4 to 4) amuse with its huge cabin. Gaz-Sadko, also increased in size by a whole hood with an engine, losing the legendary patency of Shishigi. "Vodnik" did not appeal to the military. All the rest (all kinds of "Wolves" and others) flaunt only in advertising booklets and at exhibitions in single copies. Does the military really not need a Shishigi class car to transport a couple of tons of cargo, tow a mortar, or throw DRG with equipment closer to the right place?

      And don't say ...
    4. TOR2
      TOR2 8 January 2018 20: 59
      0
      Quote: Gritsa
      Gaz-Sadko, also increased in size by a whole hood with an engine, losing the legendary patency of Shishigi.

      Toward the bonnet version leaned for another reason. In the event of a collision with a mine, the engine compartment takes over the main blow. Of course, the visibility of the hood version is worse.
  4. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 8 January 2018 15: 31
    +6
    I feel that the truck will sing and dance, but in no case fulfill its functions)))
    Until they purchase a specially trained rickshaw))
  5. polpot
    polpot 8 January 2018 15: 34
    +1
    India, Europe, European, Japanese and even American cars do not like real Eurocars, give an Indian one, show their place in the real and not fictional world between Uganda and Congo
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 8 January 2018 16: 17
      +1
      Can you name the European variants-analogues of "shishigi"? Well, what would the contest be held.
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 8 January 2018 16: 48
        +2
        Easy-Unimog! Both Volvo and Iveco have Shishigi's classmates. The same nosed Tatra.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 8 January 2018 17: 02
          0
          The first is expensive. The second is much larger in dimension, the third is much smaller. So past ...
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 8 January 2018 17: 37
            +3
            You Nazariy cheat !!! First Mercedes in the naked version is not that expensive (if you remove customs duties, it's easier customs robbery) and with a price tag on Sadko will not go too far. Volvo has a wide range of FL6 quite a classmate, it’s possible 303- I recall the 306 series. Well, Ivekovskaya Daily 4 + 4. Well, to be honest, Shishiga is far from a masterpiece of automotive industry, the impressions after the first train were just disgusting — landing like on a toilet, until I got used to the club, I didn’t fly off the road a little five times, but consumption like a locomotive? And with all this in mind, something constantly falls apart and falls off, you always live under the car. Sadko, after 66 just a Mercedes ..
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 8 January 2018 17: 57
              +1
              The total mass of Volvo - 7.5 tons, Iveco - raises only 1.5 tons. Well, and about comparing the cost of Unimog and Sadko, I do not even want to delve into - this is not correct. Although it is he who is most fully suited for dimensionality and patency. Believe me, I really once wondered about this topic and was surprised that there are practically no analogues to “shishigi”. Looking for them is the same as looking for an analogue of BMD - it seems like a lot, but either less, or harder or more expensive. Because it is a purely domestic national product. Like Spanish jamon - figuratively speaking, jerky. But it’s also expensive, and is made according to its own recipe and fucking, except for the Spaniards and gourmets, no one needs it!))))
          2. dvina71
            dvina71 8 January 2018 17: 43
            0
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            The first is expensive.

            The army version is not so expensive, but of course more expensive than the 66th.
          3. Amurets
            Amurets 9 January 2018 04: 59
            +1
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            The first is expensive. The second is much larger in dimension, the third is much smaller. So past.

            In any case with a diesel car will be more expensive. As an option: the same “Shishiga,” but with the YaMZ-534 security officer (diesel, clutch, gearbox.) But actually, it will be another car. YaMZ-5344-10 "is a variant of the diesel engine specially for medium-tonnage trucks of the GAZ-3308 (Sadko) and GAZ-3309 family.
            Source: https://tractorreview.ru/dvigateli/yamz/dvigatel-
            yamz-534-tehnicheskie-harakteristiki.html
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 8 January 2018 17: 12
        +2
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Can you name the European variants-analogues of "shishigi"? Well, what would the contest be held.

        No, what?
  6. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 8 January 2018 15: 38
    +1
    Briefly - rolled down to Hindu technology, that is - seams.
    If Indians are traditionally strong in the computer world, then in the iron world - alas and ah. To take them as a sample is to decline in rank in technology. After a step to this plant then - do not step over.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 8 January 2018 16: 23
      +1
      Quote: Sergey-8848
      If Indians are traditionally strong in the computer world,

      In the computer world of draloscopy!
  7. Monarchist
    Monarchist 8 January 2018 15: 47
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: volodya
    . Would buy better submarines!

    Would buy better on DVD movies Disco Dancer and Zita and Gita ...

    And there was also a film: “Ram and Sham” (such as: “Zita and Gita” are also two twin brothers and further in the film). He looked at him in his youth and I liked him, you need to look in YouTube
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 8 January 2018 16: 26
      0
      Quote: Monarchist
      "also two twin brothers

      Very similar to mandets and n ---- Ts! Here is a movie.
  8. Vitas
    Vitas 8 January 2018 15: 49
    +7
    Old Man does not give more Mazov ?! belay


    Or decided not to collect? And then the pullback from the Buddhists rolled ...
    http://by24.org/2016/03/08/ukrainian_army_will_ge
    t_new_belarusian_trucks /
  9. Monarchist
    Monarchist 8 January 2018 16: 03
    +7
    Quote: Gritsa
    But we did not find a replacement for the legendary Gaz-66. Kamaz Airborne (the one that is short and 4 to 4) amuse with its huge cabin. Gaz-Sadko, also increased in size by a whole hood with an engine, losing the legendary patency of Shishigi. "Vodnik" did not appeal to the military. All the rest (all kinds of "Wolves" and others) flaunt only in advertising booklets and at exhibitions in single copies. Does the military really not need a Shishigi class car to transport a couple of tons of cargo, tow a mortar, or throw DRG with equipment closer to the right place?

    Kamrad Grita, I’m not a driver, but I heard from peasants that Afghanistan had passed: “Shishigi” has one minus: if the front wheel hits a mine then .... Soul is in Paradise, but if the “hood” is a definite chance to survive. “I repeat: I am not a driver and, thank God, I didn’t fall on mines, but I met the story of a front-line driver, his mine exploded under a motor.
    1. Vitas
      Vitas 8 January 2018 16: 14
      +3
      That's it!
      Until the 90s, the GAZ-66 was extensively used and was part of regular combat units, including in Afghanistan. Due to the hazardous location of the driver and passengers directly above the engine in the event of a mine explosion, the truck was gradually withdrawn from use.

      Source: https://fishki.net/auto/2122177-legenda-sssr-gaz-
      66.html © Fishki.net
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 8 January 2018 16: 36
        +2
        it’s not exactly, but all this thirst and bullshit, none of the layouts protect from undermining because it’s not snuff, the fact that one has a firing point farther from the driver, and the other closer, it doesn’t change the essence, anyway the difference in fact is minimal, and sometimes she’s not at all. And yes, I’m writing specifically to debunk the myth, the effect of the explosion on the cockpit will be the same, provided that the car is moving, but not standing, the higher the speed of movement, the smaller the difference between the layouts. So it’s better to do a normal nrap, albeit as cheap and simple as possible, instead of the eternal debate "hood \ not hood".
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 8 January 2018 16: 30
      0
      Quote: Monarchist
      his mine exploded under a motor.

      Since then, cars for the army have gone through these childhood illnesses. There are both mine and other defenses.
  10. flicker
    flicker 8 January 2018 16: 08
    +3
    It is necessary to cut as soon as possible while there is still the opportunity to cut something. winked
    Saw the APU, saw. yes
  11. betta
    betta 8 January 2018 16: 13
    +2
    “able to overcome steep slopes up to 70%” as a percentage of what? How many degrees is this? Is it too big?
  12. K-50
    K-50 8 January 2018 16: 15
    +7
    They destroyed their KrAZ, now they are looking for trucks for cheaper around the world. laughing
    One word mayDAUNA !!! fool
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 8 January 2018 16: 34
      0
      Do not tell me which KRAZ collapsed? Just photos and videos from the same Donbass indicate the opposite ... And when did light-tonnage trucks come out in KraZ?
      1. K-50
        K-50 8 January 2018 16: 42
        +2
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        And when did light-tonnage trucks come out at KraZ?

        They had a 4x4 model, I don’t remember the modification. They destroyed it because they received engines from Russia, and there was no production of their own. They don’t have money to adapt for other imports, and they won’t give it for that, the geyropa does not need extra competitors.
        Did I answer you? hi
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 8 January 2018 17: 01
          +3
          Model "soldier" - r \ n 4 tons, engines - "Deutsche" is now massively installed. No worse than YaMz. So your answer is too far-fetched .... And how many cars have been delivered to the army over the past three years? LLC is not bad for a "collapsed" plant.
        2. Suhow
          Suhow 9 January 2018 20: 25
          +1
          I met KrAZ 4x4 on the road. (Ukraine), I don’t know what's inside, but in my opinion it’s not very bad. I haven’t seen it in the civilian version.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 8 January 2018 17: 17
        +2
        I did not know that there were several KRAZov ....
  13. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 8 January 2018 16: 23
    +3
    I read the next "trash can" comments .... As in most cases - slag. Essentially one, two. But, for those who are in the topic of an adult, and not at the school level, name-calling, let's think - but, really, how to replace the "shishig"? In its dimension, carrying capacity, cross-country ability and price policy? Well, ka, connoisseurs of Zita and Gita - a question for connoisseurs? Something similar was created recently by the Belarusians. But as I understand it in a small series and for domestic consumption. And even then, when this article appeared on VO, they criticized to the full- and the suspension of the toy and the cabin is "children's" ... Kraz promised - until he "gave birth" ... So who will name the analogues - competitors of "shishigi"?
    Personally, I could bet on "unimportant" from Merc, but this is clearly not for the poor.
    1. Grits
      Grits 8 January 2018 16: 57
      +1
      I would still have a closer look at Wolf-2. But taking into account his reservation and other bells and whistles, his price will be no less than that of Merc. Yes, and patency is lost with an increase in mass on the armor. Although security is good, but for a Shishigi class car, having a reservation is a moot point.
      Now, if Kamaz slightly “narrowed” in size, then it would also be nice. But for the sake of unification of serial parts no one will do it.
      In general, only Sadko remains. But, as I look, he did not find mass use in the troops - far from the legend. Although, the Syrians like it.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 8 January 2018 17: 21
      +2
      The leader of the Redskins, I'm sorry, I didn’t understand. Are you for the Bolsheviks al for the Communists?
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 8 January 2018 17: 25
        0
        In this case, I am for good technique and adequate comments by specialists))))
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 8 January 2018 17: 34
          +2
          So for the third ....
    3. igor67
      igor67 8 January 2018 17: 50
      +1
      TATA buys Land Rover and Jaguar for $ 2,3 billion
      car market | Published - 2008-03-27 10:39:37 (7365 times read)
      Land Rover and Jaguar sold to Indian Tata for $ 2,3 billion - TATA Ford agreed to sell Jaguar and Land Rover to Indian automaker Tata Motors, according to a US company press release. The transaction amount is $ 2,3 billion. We have seen the army TATA.
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 8 January 2018 21: 57
        0
        Quote: igor67
        Published - 2008-03-27 10:39:37

        Still ancient news weak to find? Jaguar already bought a BMW.
    4. dvina71
      dvina71 8 January 2018 17: 54
      +2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      oh, for those who are in the topic in an adult, and not at the school level, name-calling, let's think - but, really, how to replace the "shishig"

      What is the need for such a dimension? Are you not comfortable with 4x4 Kamaz? Then the Urals ..

      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 8 January 2018 22: 18
        +1
        In order to finally reveal this topic, you need to retreat into the history of the creation of Gas-66. If you omit the nuances, then this car was created for the needs of the Airborne Forces. Compact design, increased cross-country ability and stability. The same "cage" is already beyond the specified dimensions. For IL-76, it doesn’t matter, but An-26 may not come out ... Now think about it - are these samples designed for placement in the compartments of aircraft transport aircraft and, moreover, the landing of such? Do not be like Ukropovskie warriors, who a year ago pulled to the test the decorated hoodless commercial Hyundai on tiny wheels and a fuel filter hanging to the ground. The sample quickly mounted on the frame, therefore. that the battlefield is not a bad road in South Korea ....
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 9 January 2018 19: 46
          0
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          In order to finally reveal this topic

          In order to close .. Airborne Forces moves to armored vehicles for drugs and Kamaz Airborne Forces ..
    5. midivan
      midivan 8 January 2018 19: 08
      +3
      And why did the question arise to replace? It was necessary to bring to mind what was, and with us, as always, what is eaten, and then they are looking for a replacement. recourse
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 8 January 2018 23: 49
        +1
        KRAZ never produced models with a carrying capacity below 4 tons. And they are slightly "squashed" tractors. Neither in size nor in other parameters are suitable. Well, it's silly to pull the KRAZ field kitchen or the same 23 mm memory. Well, not profitable! So you can even get to the field kitchen will be dragged MAZ - tank trucks ....
        1. midivan
          midivan 9 January 2018 02: 49
          +2
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          KrAZ never produced models with a carrying capacity below 4 tons.

          The fact that they have there on Craz is of little interest to me, I mean about us, it was a good machine, it is a pity.
  14. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 8 January 2018 16: 26
    +3
    I don’t know how four-wheeled, but six and eight-wheeled have long been used in the IDF.
    IAI ABISR medium-range anti-aircraft missile system, made on the chassis of Indian Tata cars. From left to right: Barak QR mobile launcher with a four-shot vertical launcher; command point batteries with radar IAI Elta EL / M 2106; transport and loading machine; Maintenance Vehicle (s) IAI (via Jane's)
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 8 January 2018 17: 22
      +2
      Alexander Privalov, and what? Yes, even a ten-wheeled one! What's next?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 8 January 2018 17: 31
        0
        Quote: sabakina
        Alexander Privalov, and what? Yes, even a ten-wheeled one! What's next?

        Vyacheslav, but nothing. Then what?
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 8 January 2018 20: 12
          +1
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Then what?

          And then you need to ask a question: - and who are you, please tell me ?! fellow
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  16. foreman
    foreman 8 January 2018 16: 48
    0
    and at the kraz it is impossible to stir up something like 66?
    1. midivan
      midivan 8 January 2018 19: 00
      +1
      Quote: Foreman
      and at the kraz it is impossible to stir up something like 66?

      It is possible to stir up anything, but to establish production .... request
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 8 January 2018 17: 01
    +3
    And they think THIS will replace the old woman "shishigu"?
  18. Vard
    Vard 8 January 2018 17: 53
    0
    Everything is good ... Only quality ... Better than Bangladesh ... But worse than China ...
  19. bogart047
    bogart047 8 January 2018 18: 01
    0
    KRAZ already buried?
    1. Berkut24
      Berkut24 8 January 2018 19: 38
      0
      And at the wake, they walked the whole farm.
  20. Berkut24
    Berkut24 8 January 2018 19: 37
    +1
    6 hp Tata 125-cylinder turbodiesel environmental standard Euro 2.

    As I understand it, the ecological class of this tachanka is the main highlight that should plunge all enemies into gloom. In the cold, this "turbodiesel" did not experience?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 8 January 2018 20: 00
      +3
      Right! I’m all about off-road, I doubted the extreme black earth, but it seems this is not the main thing.
      General FROZ, Fritz on it cool "burnt", so the Maybach, the Mercians with Opel were !!! And this Indo miracle will finally work in the winter ???
      Here the "colleagues" from Israel did not mind the tattoo, I was surprised ... so they have no serious colds, in principle! All clear.
  21. Strashila
    Strashila 8 January 2018 19: 38
    0
    Yeah ... and for the generals they will buy Nano cars of the same company.
  22. vlad007
    vlad007 8 January 2018 19: 52
    +1
    Hindus license (!) T-90 tank ("Bhishma", Terrible translated) can not normally be done. At the Tank Biathlon-2017, both tanks left the race. The only team that did not pass all the obstacles and tests.
    I think that Russia will have to disentangle all this. We love to help the "brotherly" peoples.
  23. Piramidon
    Piramidon 8 January 2018 20: 39
    0
    But what about KrAZ, already FSE? The other day Petya-Porokh assured that all the norm and production is growing in giant leaps. There are leaps, but the production of NEMA
    1. Suhow
      Suhow 9 January 2018 20: 35
      0
      Well, according to rumors, he no longer has time to cope with the defense industry, and isuzu and tats are probably close to singing.
  24. LeonidL
    LeonidL 8 January 2018 20: 41
    +1
    “As for the military trucks of the Indian company Tata Motors, a member of the Tata group, these machines traditionally find some demand in poor developing countries.” - What you need for Ukraine, a poor and non-developing country ...
  25. Bypassed
    Bypassed 8 January 2018 21: 29
    +1
    Evo how. It seems that Mr. Valtsman kidanul Belarusians and at his enterprise the assembly of machine sets under the brand name “Bogdan” of the well-proven army versions of MAZ-5316 (4 × 4), MAZ-5317 (6 × 6) cars stopped
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 9 January 2018 08: 22
      +4
      Old Man is probably not the right "partner", now the Indians will be the right partner and .... in short, we'll see!
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 20 January 2018 12: 30
      0
      Quote: PASSED BY
      version of the cars MAZ-5316 (4 × 4), MAZ-5317 (6 × 6)

      Tatra in another weight category analogue of Gas-66
  26. Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 9 January 2018 03: 56
    0
    Where are Krazy?
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 9 January 2018 10: 00
      +1
      Quote: Leonid Khar
      Where are Krazy?
      Here is a big order for Kraz for 2018. Avoda site.
      http://www.autokraz.com.ua/index.php/ru/novosti-i
      -media / news / item / 3416-pid-novyi-rik-kraz-vyhrav-v
      azhlyvyi-tender
      "A pleasant event on the eve of the new year for the Kremenchug Automobile Plant and the Poltava region! The national manufacturer, the KrAZ plant, won a tender to supply the region where it is located with a large batch of municipal special equipment. Three communal vehicles will arrive in Kremenchug. KATP-1628 will receive two garbage trucks:
      - KrAZ-5401 Medium B (4x2) with side loading, hopper capacity of 18 cubic meters, is additionally equipped with a blade and grab grab;
      - KrAZ-6511 (6x4) for working with containers, a hopper of 3,2 cubic meters, equipped with a multi-lift and a manipulator. And the Kremenchugvodokanal will operate a 7-cc sediment KrAZ-5401 (4x2) special machine, additionally equipped with a snow blade.
      The Horish Plavnya public utilities fleet will be replenished with a KrAZ-5401 (KP-40) canal flushing vehicle with an 8-cc tank and an additional snow plow.
      Three units of new special equipment will arrive in the Gadyachsky district, as well as in Kremenchug. The district council will be pleased with a couple of brand new garbage trucks with side loading KrAZ-5401Medium B with a 12-cc bunker and an additional dump and grab grab. And the city will clean up the new KrAZ-5401 Medium B garbage truck with side loading, which has an 18-cc bunker, a dump and a grab grab. "
  27. The Grubby
    The Grubby 9 January 2018 19: 46
    +1
    On one tank, a car can travel up to 800 km.


    In the Ukrainian army is not capable! In Ukraine, salar is by no means cheap, and the local population will gladly buy another canister from their defenders, for moonshine naturally))