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Polyakov was asked to express an opinion on the causes of the crash of the Tu-154 near Smolensk

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In Poland, they decided to conduct a sociological study on the 2010 plane crash of the year near Smolensk. We are talking about the crash of the Tu-154, which was carrying the then Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife, as well as an impressive delegation of Polish officials and high-ranking military personnel.


The survey was conducted by the SW Research sociological monitoring service commissioned by the newspaper Rzeczpospolita. The results of this survey suggest that the opinions of Polish citizens regarding the causes of the collapse of the liner differ significantly.

Polyakov was asked to express an opinion on the causes of the crash of the Tu-154 near Smolensk


So, 35,8% of respondents believe that the cause of the crash was the bad weather around the arrival airfield and crew errors that caused the aircraft to collide with a tree. Recall that such conclusions were previously reached by two different independent commissions with direct Polish participation.

36,1% of respondents stated that they do not trust official conclusions and name other factors as causes of the crash. It should be noted that the conspiracy theory of the crash of the Tu-154 (with the alleged intervention of the Russian special services) is unwound by individual Polish politicians, including the brother of the Polish president who died in a plane crash. The same theory is trying to promote the current Minister of Defense of Poland Anthony Macieserevich, who in Poland itself for this kind of conspiracy has already been accused of trying to score political points to move up the career ladder.

Another 28,1% of Poles noted that they generally have no thoughts about the crash of the Tu-154 in the 2010 year.
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  1. SNEAKY
    SNEAKY 8 January 2018 09: 43
    +9
    What the hell! How much can you so scare over the dead? Certainly not from a great mind these dances on the bones.
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 8 January 2018 09: 45
      +7
      I just don’t understand why they definitely need to blame our country for the disaster and not to admit bad weather as the cause of the tragedy, you might think that something will change Russia because they accused them of all mortal sins. And this will continue until Poland and the like stop licking the US ass, and this is hardly possible. And it’s profitable for the United States that Russia always looks like an evil empire; under this, it’s easier for them to do their business.
      1. SNEAKY
        SNEAKY 8 January 2018 09: 51
        +9
        Well, it’s hard for Panam to admit to seeing drunk on board along with inappropriate behavior, and orders to pilots. It’s much more interesting to drag the remains of the dead from here to the earth, and to snot the whole world about the machinations of the evil Russians. All according to Mr. Lavrov ...
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 8 January 2018 10: 01
          10
          Ha! Well this is how interesting it turns out!
          35,8% of respondents are sure that the weather caused the crash.
          36,1% of respondents said that they did not trust the official conclusions and called other factors as the causes of the crash.
          28,1% of Poles said that they generally have no thoughts about the crash of the Tu-154 in the 2010 year.
          In total, it turns out that 100% of the Poles surveyed do not believe Matserevich and Kaczynski and do not share their point of view on the reason for the collapse of the Polish presidential board in 2010 near Smolensk!
          And who then believes Matserevich and Kaczynski in Poland? It turns out that only they themselves believe! How can this be? Strange however research.
          1. hrych
            hrych 8 January 2018 10: 20
            13
            But we must admit that we banged Kachinsky, to demand for the execution of the second Kachinsky, why did they need one sandalwood. It’s even useful to catch up. Believe me, relations from Poland will not get worse and nowhere worse am And so Poland is the exemplary country of the former CMEA, where more money was pumped in than the entire Marshall plan after the Great War. Meat was being prepared for the western front against the Russian Federation, but the misfortune, the main result of the Syrian commute was the fall of Turkey, where its half-million army was supposed to rip up our belly on the southern front. Separately, Polish cannon stuffing is not enough at all, and the Old Man will deal with them if that. laughing
            1. Going
              Going 8 January 2018 18: 33
              +2
              Quote: SNEAKY
              What the hell! How much can you so scare over the dead? Certainly not from a great mind these dances on the bones.


              It is they themselves who make fun of themselves.
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 8 January 2018 10: 20
            +1
            well .. those same 36,1%
          3. Alf
            Alf 8 January 2018 20: 38
            +1
            Quote: Tatiana
            28,1% of Poles said that they generally have no thoughts about the crash of the Tu-154 in the 2010 year.

            In translation-A, they did not notice that someone had been killed. Once again in translation, Im up to ... a light bulb. As they say, the squad did not notice the loss of a fighter.
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 8 January 2018 10: 02
        +5
        Bad weather was specially made from Moscow, the director of the Roshydromettsentr was awarded the order with a secret decree.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 8 January 2018 13: 13
          11
          Quote: Aviator_
          Bad weather was specially made from Moscow, the director of the Roshydromettsentr was awarded the order with a secret decree.

          In fact, it was so ...
      3. Shkodnik65
        Shkodnik65 8 January 2018 10: 39
        +3
        And for me everything is so clear. There is an obvious inferiority complex. Russia is Poland’s centuries-old rival in its desire to become "great Poland from sea to sea." Previously, there were fewer opportunities to pressure us (not counting 20-30 years). And now they have the United States behind them and the Poles are using every opportunity to kick Russia. And to spit on Kaczynski these figures, he is only an excuse. It would not be him would be different. IMHO.
        1. Assyrian
          Assyrian 9 January 2018 00: 02
          0
          Quote: Shkodnik65
          It would not be him would be different.

          Too bad not both. And there would be no problem.
      4. midivan
        midivan 8 January 2018 20: 36
        +2
        Quote: Spartanez300
        I just don’t understand why they definitely need to blame our country for the disaster and not to admit bad weather as the cause of the tragedy.

        And if you try to go from the other side, I’ve never heard the question - who benefits from this? I’ll try to explain how I see, to make the Polish screamers shut up. Russia - what are the benefits? There is absolutely zero benefit, a bad reputation, but who will fly to us then, and most importantly, this is not Putin’s method, he’s difficult and will tear the veins with any “sheep” in the negotiations. Poland, and here it’s more interesting, as far as I remember, the Kaczynski government was in normal relations with GDP, at least not in those now, but to whom it was across the throat? Even if there had been an explosion, then first of all, it is beneficial to the new leadership and to those who replaced the state posts of the victims. And if you recall that after the death of the plane, the new government took a completely different policy, which is based on a discord between us, and there’s no reason to think for a long time who could benefit from it. And the fact that the "suspects" themselves scream the most, so there are a lot of sayings and proverbs. And the question is why they want to blame us, I think rhetorical ?. IMHA of course.
      5. Yun Klob
        Yun Klob 9 January 2018 01: 20
        0
        The Poles want everyone to think that the explosive device on board worked. Then in his bookmark it will be possible to blame Russia again (and not Poland): D
    2. dorz
      dorz 8 January 2018 09: 47
      +8
      100% of the crash wine of the liner lies on the Poles who did not want to land on the alternate aerodrome due to bad weather.
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 8 January 2018 09: 55
        10
        dorsu
        The fault of the Poles is not that they didn’t want to land at the alternate aerodrome, but that even on the recordings of the negotiations of the pilots, the presence of an outsider in the cockpit was noted and that this extra one commanded. Even a sober burst into the cockpit and command no one had the right, and there noted a drunk and arrogant leadership. Truly Polish command.
      2. SNEAKY
        SNEAKY 8 January 2018 10: 01
        +5
        Yes, everyone knows at least a little who has the beginnings of the nervous system. The child will also have enough compelling evidence of the guilt of the Polish side’s collapse. Another cynical reason to remind yourself of those who are flawed in such a blasphemous way, trying to at least somehow drag the Russian Federation here.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 8 January 2018 09: 55
      19
      An interesting thing is to hold a referendum on the topic: why planes are falling with a drunken Polish government on board! laughing Here, either the vodka is singed, or the snack is not fresh! belay
      1. novel66
        novel66 8 January 2018 09: 58
        +8
        it remains only to vote - and appoint the perpetrators - guess who will be?
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 8 January 2018 14: 07
          +7
          Roma, welcome hi How is that? Kachinsky and Matserevich - these two were absent on board. And now the question is why? wink
          1. novel66
            novel66 8 January 2018 17: 02
            +4
            Serge! hi digging deeply!
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 8 January 2018 17: 10
              +6
              Roma, I would have IMR-2, I would have dug even deeper. And on occasion, and would have buried it with great pleasure. wink
              1. novel66
                novel66 8 January 2018 17: 30
                +4
                all of Poland? why not
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 8 January 2018 17: 45
                  +4
                  Nah, the whole Poland will need an engineering team, and also a team of road builders to level and roll up.
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 8 January 2018 18: 09
                    +4
                    maybe pour mountains? land can be taken in the Baltic states - we will solve so many problems right away!
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 8 January 2018 18: 54
                      +4
                      Nah, don’t, otherwise the sprat bay will work out.
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 8 January 2018 20: 27
                        +3
                        But Belarus will get access to the sea, and, fearing the 6th US fleet, it will become our true ally! Well, sprats with oysters will really deliver! tongue laughing
                    2. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 8 January 2018 20: 42
                      +4
                      Good you. wink And then who will build the Fleet and the Navy Base? Old Man will be concerned about this in the first place, but we won’t see oysters and sprats for a long time, and shrimp too. tongue
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 8 January 2018 22: 20
                        +3
                        good i yes! like a hangover lol
                    3. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 8 January 2018 22: 23
                      +4
                      So there’s nowhere easier than crippling - that’s how we are cured. drinks
                      1. BARKHAN
                        BARKHAN 9 January 2018 00: 26
                        +1
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        So there’s nowhere easier than crippling - that’s how we are cured. drinks

                        Who, how ... here they say that squirrels are already tired of the holidays ... What can we say about people?
              2. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 9 January 2018 00: 22
                +2
                Quote: Svarog51
                Roma, I would have IMR-2, I would have dug even deeper. And on occasion, and would have buried it with great pleasure. wink

                Namesake, hello. hi You don’t know, but what’s happening with their late president? Dug up or dug in? Or am I already confused ... Maybe you don’t need to bury it anymore ... what if one more examination is needed ... But he’s ready lies in the fridge ...
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 9 January 2018 01: 19
                  +5
                  Great, Seryoga hi Honestly, I don’t know. But one familiar badger (yeah, someone needs to perform the duties of a squirrel lol ) whispered that he was placed in a crypt. wink
                  1. BARKHAN
                    BARKHAN 9 January 2018 02: 29
                    +1
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    whispered that he was placed in a crypt.

                    They came up conveniently with an eye to the future, opened the lid, took samples ...
                    And then after all, somehow shameful things should be covered up ... because, as it turns out, the entire top of the country perished drunk ...
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 9 January 2018 02: 37
                      +4
                      I just can’t understand one thing, what are they only pulling the president back and forth? What are they all looking for in his remains? request
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 9 January 2018 08: 43
                        +3
                        Good morning! hi
                        What are they all looking for in his remains? request
                        maybe signs of reason?
      2. verner1967
        verner1967 8 January 2018 10: 00
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        An interesting thing is to hold a referendum on the topic

        further it will be even more interesting, they will turn to soothsayers, magicians and sorcerers.
      3. Amurets
        Amurets 8 January 2018 10: 40
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        Here, either the vodka is singed, or the snack is not fresh

        And you do not exclude both factors together? Did you drink fake vodka and didn’t eat a fresh snack?
      4. Herculesic
        Herculesic 8 January 2018 11: 33
        +1
        Sibiralt hi -Only Poles, Ukrainians and Balts to this referendum not to be allowed! !!
    4. avt
      avt 8 January 2018 10: 04
      +2
      Quote: SNEAKY
      Certainly not from a great mind these dances on the bones.
      Yes ?! But here
      36,1% of respondents said that they did not trust the official conclusions and called other factors as the causes of the crash.
      says otherwise. That MONTHLY campaign on the date of the crash, it bears fruit.
    5. 210ox
      210ox 8 January 2018 10: 48
      +3
      And how much they are hungry over the dead in Katyn .. Let them dig their graves and take away to themselves. And they do anything there .. The necrophiles are finished.
      Quote: SNEAKY
      What the hell! How much can you so scare over the dead? Certainly not from a great mind these dances on the bones.
    6. Herculesic
      Herculesic 8 January 2018 11: 31
      +2
      Definitely, Ivan Susanin is to blame - he brought the plane exactly to the birch, or he landed the birch just on the way of landing the Polish side! wassat
    7. alex86
      alex86 8 January 2018 18: 52
      0
      PLF101.livejournal.com is for those who do not just chat about what they are ... bad, but think with their own brains and not strangers. The investigation is long, more than 100 pages. I quote only:
      4.1 Conclusions
      Given that during official investigations by the IAC and
      Miller’s commissions were not taken into account or were hidden, distorted and / or incorrect
      The following facts and circumstances of the disaster are presented,
      • power-off of the ARC and RMI by the crew after the third turn;
      • inoperability of standard drive radio stations BPRM and DPRM
      Severny airdrome during the landing approach Tu-154M b / n101;
      • inoperability of the standard airfield of the Severny aerodrome during execution
      approach Tu-154M b / n101;
      • inoperability of at least 40% of the groups of lights of a standard MTR aerodrome
      "Severny" during the landing approach Tu-154M b / n101;
      104
      • Operation at the Severny aerodrome of an emergency landing system and
      equipment receiving information about flight parameters from the airborne
      the defendant of the aircraft, during the landing approach Tu-154M b / n101;
      • receipt by the crew before the flight of a card with a different approach scheme
      the regular scheme of approach of the Severny airdrome;
      • falsification of gyromagnetic course values ​​read from the carrier
      parametric recorder;
      • incorrect reconstruction of the track at the flight stage after passing
      navigation point ASKIL;
      • falsification of airspeed read from media
      parametric recorder;
      • incorrect representation of the values ​​of the vertical velocity of descent along the glide path;
      • misconception of the landing configuration of wing mechanization;
      • absence at the scene of a trace on the surface from a bow stroke
      fuselage;
      • different release angles of the left and right inner flaps;
      • no damage to the crowns of trees growing on the left at the heading
      immediately after the birch;
      • the nature of the damage to the left OCHK and the condition of the spar fragment No. 1 s
      slat transmission shaft fragment;
      • incorrect interpretation of TAWS signaling;
      • inconsistency of the TAWS log data with the alert generation algorithm;
      • the absence of a roll until the TAWS # 38 alert;
      • reason for the appearance of alert TAWS # 38;
      • angular roll speed after the appearance of alert TAWS # 38;
      • difference between barometric and radio altimeter readings at the time of occurrence
      alert TAWS # 38;
      • change of FMS # 1 flight plan by the navigator after the third turn;
      • barometric altitude values ​​at the moment of power failure FMS,
      measured by both the VBE-SVS of the commander and the VBE-SVS of the co-pilot,
      corresponding to the aircraft being below surface level;
      • landing approach by Tu-154M b / n101 crew along the glide path with UNG 3 ° 10 ';
      • presence at the Severny airdrome during the approach to Tu-
      154M b / n 101 three markers with the location of the Outer Marker and Middle Marker on
      removal of four and half a mile from the end, respectively;
      • distribution by the commander of responsibilities for voicing flight altitude during
      glide path descent between navigator and co-pilot;
      • coordination by the co-pilot with the PIC of the procedure for announcing the height for removal;
      • attempts by the crew to edit the FMS # 2 flight plan;
      • repeated fulfillment by the crew of the control card “After switching to pressure
      airdrome ";
      • Reinstallation by the crew of setters of radio altimeters;
      • incorrect interpretation of the actions of the PIC and the crew at the final stage of reduction
      glide path;
      • misconception of hydraulic fracturing actions at the final stage of reduction in
      glide path;
      • misconception of using autopilot when descending along a glide path
      it should be recognized that the IAC and the Miller Commission investigations
      unscrupulous and unreliable.
      ...........................................
      4.2 Reasons
      Based on the analysis presented in this report, the reasons
      the Tu-154m wreck b / n101 April 10, 2010 today are presented
      following:
      • The reason for premature reduction to a geometric height of 10-15m per
      a distance of ~ 1100m from the end of the runway26 of the Severny aerodrome was the setting
      instrumental glide path deployed at the aerodrome of the TLS landing system,
      using which the crew automatically logged onto
      landing. For the disorientation of the crew at VLOOKUP = 60m false
      light landmarks.
      • The reason for the destruction of the aircraft and the death of people was the sequence
      explosions leading to the complete destruction of the structure of the aircraft in the air
      1. alex86
        alex86 8 January 2018 19: 06
        0
        http://plf101.livejournal.com/ - а то болты болтать много ума не надо
      2. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 8 January 2018 19: 39
        0
        This is you a direct follower of Matserevich, Kaczynski and all this gop company of drunkards who fell during landing. I recall a joke about women with "low social responsibility" who were collected for three years on a steamboat.
        1. alex86
          alex86 9 January 2018 21: 09
          0
          Have you tried reading this report? And yet - why don’t we give Poland the rest of the plane? Do we have something to hide? Or are you just a “robot with reduced social responsibility,” because you can’t formulate anything other than a declaration?
  2. Anton Boldakov
    Anton Boldakov 8 January 2018 09: 44
    13
    What's the point of this survey? anyway - "Russia is to blame." Dot. They will come to the conclusion that Comrade Stalin planted that birch (and personally) already in 1935 - just so that it would cause this catastrophe ...
    But in general, of course - it would be necessary to draw our conclusions as well - if there wouldn’t have agreed to "recognize" the Katyn tragedy as the work of the USSR, then there would have been nothing. Moral - you take someone else's fault. get ready to pay in full.
    1. svp67
      svp67 8 January 2018 10: 00
      +2
      Quote: Anton Boldakov
      They will come to the conclusion that Comrade Stalin planted that birch (and personally) already in 1935 - just so that it would cause this catastrophe ...

      Here you are probably wrong. Considering that there was a “Rest House” for NKVD officers nearby, the “TU” birch most likely planted Beria, in the year it’s the 40th ...
      1. Anton Boldakov
        Anton Boldakov 8 January 2018 18: 51
        +1
        Oh well ... Beria is not solid, but Stalin ... you already catch the "conjuncture" ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 8 January 2018 18: 57
          0
          Quote: Anton Boldakov
          Oh well ... Beria is not solid, but Stalin ... you already catch the "conjuncture" ...

          It would have been even cooler if Ivan the Terrible planted her ...
          1. Anton Boldakov
            Anton Boldakov 8 January 2018 21: 09
            +2
            But surely ... Damn, apparently getting old - I couldn’t even think of such a thing.
    2. alex86
      alex86 9 January 2018 21: 13
      0
      Quote: Anton Boldakov
      you take someone else's fault

      alien - in the sense of the USSR? So we insist on the continuity of the Russian Federation. Or do you separate the NKVD from the USSR?
      1. Anton Boldakov
        Anton Boldakov 9 January 2018 22: 23
        +1
        Someone else's fault is taking responsibility for the execution in Katyn. Apparently, at the time of our government, it jumped in the brain and they decided. what if you admit blame for the USSR for Katyn. then Poland and Germany will treat us well ... well, and the result - they took the blame for other people's crimes and also received all kinds of insults and accusations.
        1. alex86
          alex86 10 January 2018 22: 02
          0
          Once again - whose strangers are these?
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  4. svp67
    svp67 8 January 2018 09: 47
    +4
    So, 35,8% of respondents are sure ...
    36,1% of respondents said ...
    Another 28,1% of Poles noted ...
    I have a question ... will the Poles about this tragedy, whether in the UN Security Council we will ride "ears", as before Ukraine, with its own "aggression"
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 8 January 2018 10: 09
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      I have a question ... 35,8 + 36,1 + 28,1 = 100 ... but where are those who raised all this "buch" with an explosion?

      Within the margin of error.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 8 January 2018 10: 10
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      will we ride in the UN Security Council

      hi
      Will be. And not only to us. The Poles are such a nation “offended by all” and which “everyone should”. Phantom pains and Wishlist from the time of the “Commonwealth”. The Second World War taught the Poles nothing and they continue to bite and shit in the hand, giving them shelter, territories, resources and money.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 January 2018 09: 55
    +6
    This is the result of an information war. She goes. It goes on continuously, washing the brains of tens and hundreds of millions of inhabitants ... A little more, and most people will forget who fought against whom in WWII ... And the birches growing in the ravine will be considered elements of "strategic air defense" wassat
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  7. Moore
    Moore 8 January 2018 10: 03
    +3
    Dug up corpses, buried corpses. They again dug it, buried it again ... We conducted an examination, conducted a survey ... Dvizhuha ...
    Take off the cartoon ...
    The old man Nietzsche’s warning doesn’t go with arrogant and stubborn panam:
    "If you peer into the abyss for a long time, the abyss begins to peer into you"
  8. Glory1974
    Glory1974 8 January 2018 10: 05
    +6
    Why is our leadership silent? At least expressed another concern. And it’s better to publish all recordings of conversations in the booth with comments and explanations, make a movie of some minutes on 15-20 and post it on the Internet. Then anyone can see the official version and draw the appropriate conclusion.
    Defense must be active. What is Mutkovschina’s syndrome?
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 8 January 2018 10: 16
      +2
      Why react to every mentally ill person? So it’s not surprising to become a psycho himself.lol
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 8 January 2018 10: 24
        +5
        Why react to every mentally ill person?

        This is what we are talking about. It is necessary to conduct proactive actions actively promoting its position. I’m not even afraid to say to wage an information war.
        If every Pole watches a movie on the Internet about how a plane died, then the people of Poland will react to every one of their silly leaders.
        Here on the site we are laughing at Polish attempts to find a black cat in a dark room, and how the Poles and generally in Europe react, remains behind the scenes.
    2. Vard
      Vard 8 January 2018 10: 19
      +3
      The main reason for the problems in the Polish question and in others is the same ... the extremely low qualification of our so-called top management ...
  9. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 January 2018 10: 06
    +4
    I read the article - read the comments. I re-read the article. Gentlemen, commentators, if you do not use brains (why consumers need brains), then at least read what is written. The article says that most Poles do not consider Russia guilty. And only certain politicians blame.
    1. SNEAKY
      SNEAKY 8 January 2018 10: 26
      +2
      There are no options here, however it may be. "Every nation has the government that it deserves" (c) Although it is rephrased, the essence reflects briefly and clearly.
      Among the majority that does not share the government’s views on the catastrophe, how many journalists with at least a sober mind to cool the ardor and squeals towards the Russian Federation? No? Get it, sign it!
  10. Amurets
    Amurets 8 January 2018 10: 08
    +5
    36,1% of respondents said that they did not trust the official conclusions and called other factors as the causes of the crash.

    Abroad, there is such a concept: if the gentlemen of the engineer did not come to a consensus, a disaster or an emergency should be considered as happened by God's will. This is not a joke or trolling, this concept means a combination of not provided actions or circumstances. So a birch can be considered an unintended or unpredictable circumstance. This concept can be found in John Gordon's book: Designs or Why Things Don't Break
    1. Vard
      Vard 8 January 2018 10: 22
      +3
      In other words, it’s Murphy’s law .. "If any trouble can happen, it will happen."
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 8 January 2018 10: 27
        +3
        Quote: Vard
        In other words, it’s Murphy’s law .. "If any trouble can happen, it will happen."

        Certainly
  11. Kent0001
    Kent0001 8 January 2018 10: 18
    +1
    What is the article about? And why is she here?
  12. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 8 January 2018 10: 24
    +6
    Case study about a plane crash is certainly powerful
  13. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 8 January 2018 10: 24
    +4
    Blame it all:
    "The Polish ambition is a complex mass and individual psychopathological phenomenon inherent in the Poles, and characterizes Poland’s foreign policy. It is expressed mainly in aggressive arrogance (individual and collective), inappropriate behavior and lack of self-control. The Pole covered by the so-called" Polish ambition "is a city street madman The half-crazy petty politician Lech Kaczynski, who died in a plane crash near Smolensk precisely because of the “Polish ambition.” Running around the cabin with a glass of cognac in a drunk and completely inadequate condition, was a vivid representative of self-excitement. with General Blasik, and clapping on the backs of the pilots, Kaczynski thus caused a plane crash. A factor reinforcing the "Polish ambition" is Polish unbridled alcoholism ... "
    Material from the free Russian encyclopedia Tradition
  14. Wolka
    Wolka 8 January 2018 10: 32
    +1
    it is likely, but simply corny, but the drunken Polish authorities destroyed themselves in this flight ...
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 8 January 2018 10: 42
    +4
    Political games !!! They themselves and the truth have nothing to do!
    And people can convince what hosh, if you try!
  16. izya top
    izya top 8 January 2018 10: 52
    +2
    in the shower every log Sherlock what
    1. oldzek
      oldzek 8 January 2018 19: 22
      0
      Sherlock Pinocchio or Pinocchio Holmes?
  17. demo
    demo 8 January 2018 10: 54
    +2
    Another 28,1% of Poles noted that they generally have no thoughts about the Tu-154 crash in 2010, except for the current government and its brother to be sent to Smolensk along the beaten track.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 8 January 2018 13: 07
      +4
      Quote: demo
      Another 28,1% of Poles noted that they generally have no thoughts about the Tu-154 crash in 2010, except for the current government and its brother to be sent to Smolensk along the beaten track.

      A new birch must be grown, then the old one was broken.
  18. senima56
    senima56 8 January 2018 10: 56
    +2
    What idiocy ?! There are official conclusions of the commission, and they decided to ask the people !? After all, the people operate with emotions, but not with the facts of disaster!
  19. Berkut154
    Berkut154 8 January 2018 11: 40
    +3
    It would be more correct to hold an official referendum !!! And acknowledge its results wassat
  20. Berkut154
    Berkut154 8 January 2018 11: 45
    +4
    KK and without strangers made enough mistakes.
    1. Encouraged by the success of the Yak-40 that sat before them and took note of their landing conditions.
    2. The variometer was not brought to the pressure of the airfield - a gross violation in preparation for landing.
    3. The height control was, according to the RV-5, not particularly peculiar to the axis of approach and topography.
    4. He was not ready to leave for the second crew.
  21. VAGNER
    VAGNER 8 January 2018 11: 45
    +4
    So, 35,8% of respondents are sure that the cause of the crash was bad weather in the area of ​​the arrival airport and crew errors

    In fact, everything is correct, but a handful of money-lenders in the "world media", etc., fan the anti-Russian hysteria.
    What for..? Just reading the history of Russia .. In short, they want to rob us completely and destroy us .. AND EVERYTHING!
  22. iouris
    iouris 8 January 2018 12: 17
    +2
    You can also interview the echo of Moscow.
  23. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 8 January 2018 13: 47
    0
    For this plane crash, as well as for any other reason, it should be determined by specialists after conducting examinations. And not by popular vote. Well, if you do not take into account the option that Putin is a kind of villain from Hollywood films, but rather even cartoons about superheroes. In which there is a main villain with a completely irrational desire to do evil.
  24. Nikolay Fedorov
    Nikolay Fedorov 8 January 2018 14: 40
    +1
    Another 28,1% of Poles noted that they generally have no thoughts about the crash of the Tu-154 in the 2010 year.

    Actually, this is a very good indicator - 28% for the nation. We can say that almost a third of the Poles are quite smart, adequate people, since they can give a sober balanced answer to the di-provocative question.
    I think that if the United States conduct a poll "Who killed Kennedy" and give answers "1. Putin bully . 2. Lee Harvey Oswald. 3. Unknown. ", Then the Americans who chose paragraph 3 will be very, very small. But on paragraph 2 and especially 1 bully (!!!) most of the respondents will stop. yes
  25. Alexander Zublenko
    Alexander Zublenko 8 January 2018 17: 09
    +1
    Last year in the media there were only two news, the Poles with the plane and Svolochkova with the twine.
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 8 January 2018 20: 48
      0
      With twine more interesting !!!! Especially in the bath - there is something to think about !!!
  26. jovanni
    jovanni 8 January 2018 17: 19
    +1
    Polyakov was asked to express an opinion on the causes of the crash of the Tu-154 near Smolensk

    Why stop? Well, then all of Poland would have voted why he fell ...
  27. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 8 January 2018 19: 07
    +3
    And after all, the Psheks were not tired of mocking the dead so much.
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 8 January 2018 20: 55
      +5
      Zhora, my respect hi God be with them. Since there are no brains, it will never be. Am I sitting at the table and waiting for the colonel to be washed?
      wink
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 8 January 2018 21: 41
        +3
        Good evening, Sergey hi

        Hopefully soon we’ll blow it, and there are already hopeless shoulder straps with big stars smile
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 8 January 2018 22: 08
          +5
          Just come back often, as time allows. I am like that truth - constantly somewhere nearby. wink drinks
          1. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 8 January 2018 22: 15
            +3
            Recently, the truth is elusive, but we are constantly in search, otherwise why are we here? smile
            drinks
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 8 January 2018 22: 27
              +4
              So we catch her by the tail, like luck. By the ear, but by the sun. For this we are here. lol drinks good
  28. bogadun
    bogadun 8 January 2018 19: 52
    +1
    Titanic are we too? laughing
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 8 January 2018 20: 56
      +4
      "Nah, that was before us, at the beginning of the twentieth century!" lol
  29. LeonidL
    LeonidL 8 January 2018 20: 47
    0
    Well, the ideal option is to hold a referendum among the population of Poland and Ukrainian guest workers on this issue ... why are there investigators and experts? As they say the people decide, so they say so be ...
  30. myobius59
    myobius59 8 January 2018 21: 17
    +1
    Quote: siberalt
    An interesting thing is to hold a referendum on the topic: why planes are falling with a drunken Polish government on board! laughing Here, either the vodka is singed, or the snack is not fresh! belay

    Bravo. good The ONLY SPECIFIC COMMENT for this news. hi
  31. Dormidont
    Dormidont 8 January 2018 21: 37
    +1
    For the triumph of ambition of idiocy, it remains to announce a Polish referendum on the causes of the accident with drunks
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 8 January 2018 21: 40
      +1
      Oh, it turns out half of the sane population has already come up with the idea of ​​a Pansky referendum
  32. gerkost2012
    gerkost2012 8 January 2018 21: 47
    0
    It seems that we will soon wait for the Polish musical "Catastrophe Tu-134", films and other dope. All the same, for what and most importantly, for whom are they squeezing something out of this disaster? The answer is simple! Try to keep up with their sponsor and host from Washington. Participate, damn it ...
  33. Slam
    Slam 8 January 2018 22: 20
    0
    Quote: Servisinzhener

    0
    Servisinzhener Today, 13:47 PM New
    For this plane crash, as well as for any other reason, it should be determined by specialists after conducting examinations. And not by popular vote

    Well, who was stopping you from giving the wreckage of the plane to the Poles for examinations? Or a snout in a gun? And these 76 comments are very similar to voting.
    1. myobius59
      myobius59 9 January 2018 11: 17
      0
      Crest, why are you writing in Russian here? After all, this is bad for you.
      I can imagine how the face of your face twisted when you commented on this comment.
  34. assa67
    assa67 8 January 2018 23: 32
    +6
    Quote: alex86
    The reason for the destruction of the aircraft and the death of people was the sequence
    explosions leading to the complete destruction of the structure of the aircraft in the air

    complete nonsense .... for the bombings the Polish side took the popping of champagne bottles ... ashamed of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth to admit that the drunk commander of the Air Force ditched the president and a bunch of people in addition ....
    1. Berkut154
      Berkut154 9 January 2018 00: 30
      +1
      Dear, the Air Force Commander in chief has nothing to do with it, his guilt is indirect and, in principle, unproven. For everything that happens on board the aircraft, one person is responsible - the commander of the ship !!! All!!! It was he who allowed an outsider to enter the cockpit and intervene in the work of the crew !!! And then the snowball only grew ...
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 9 January 2018 01: 46
        +4
        For everything that happens on board the aircraft, one person is responsible - the commander of the ship !!! All!!! It was he who allowed an outsider to enter the cockpit and interfere with the work of the crew

        And why then do they dig out the president more than once? They would dig out a spacecraft, or of the same commander in chief of the Air Force.
      2. assa67
        assa67 9 January 2018 12: 16
        +4
        lumpy ... and facts-facts ... so the ship's commander is ...
  35. earloop
    earloop 9 January 2018 01: 30
    +1
    In Poland, they decided to conduct a case study on the 2010 plane crash near Smolensk. - An interesting way to determine the cause of the disaster by conducting a case study was proposed by the Poles! On the Nobel Prize does not pull, but for the madhouse - will do!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 9 January 2018 08: 13
      +3
      They decided to check Motsarevich’s “work” as far as he “encouraged” the Poles in the right direction !!!