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Washington intends to diplomatically recognize the region controlled by the opposition SAR

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The US intends to soon take steps aimed at diplomatic recognition of the region located in the north of Syria, which is under the control of the opposition forces "Democratic Syria" (SDS), reports TASS message of the newspaper Asharq al-Awsat.




"It is about the region east of the Euphrates River, whose area is approximately 24 thousand square kilometers - three times the size of Lebanon," - the newspaper writes with reference to a high-ranking Western official.

The interlocutor added that "at present, the US administration is developing a new strategy for Syria, including these plans, and the first specific indications of such intentions came from US Secretary of Defense James Mattis." Recently, Mattis announced that American diplomats would be sent to the area controlled by the VTS along with military instructors.

Earlier it was reported that the Syrian Kurds, concentrated in the northern regions of Syria, with the support of the Western coalition, began to form the "Army of the North of Syria", which will include, including the formation of VTS.

As stated by the command of the military structure being formed, the main goal of the “Army of the North of Syria” will be “to protect and ensure the security of the borders of the federal region in the north of Syria”.

The command also reported that the Western coalition “provides it (the army) with technical assistance, supplies weapon and is engaged in military training recruits. " It is assumed that the number of "Army of the North of Syria" will be about 100 thousand people.
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  1. Strips
    Strips 7 January 2018 16: 56
    13
    It is quite logical. The section of the country begins.


    which is approximately 24 thousand square kilometers — three times the size of Lebanon, ”


    The territory of Lebanon is 10 km².
    Someone has a problem with math.
    1. dorz
      dorz 7 January 2018 16: 58
      +2
      Washington intends to diplomatically recognize SAR region

      And there is nothing to prevent this outrage.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 7 January 2018 17: 00
        32
        Quote: dorz
        And there is nothing to prevent this outrage.

        Well, why: recognition of the republics of Donbass by Russia!
        1. Strips
          Strips 7 January 2018 17: 04
          +8
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Well, why: recognition of the republics of Donbass by Russia!



          And what will it give?
          Russia is not taking them to itself, and therefore there is little sense. Well recognized and what? Will it make it easier for them? Will this make it easier for Russia?

          But if the United States, and Europe behind it, recognizes this piece of Syria as the opposition, then that’s all - the land has fallen under Western control and the USA and Assad can forget about it.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 7 January 2018 17: 09
            24
            Quote: Tiras
            And what will it give?

            And this will end the war in the Donbass! It’s one thing to conduct shelling on its territory and another thing entirely if Russia recognizes them. We will have every right to defend them openly! Ukraine will not fight with Russia!
            1. Strips
              Strips 7 January 2018 17: 24
              +9
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              and quite another matter if Russia recognizes them


              Is it?


              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              We will have every right to defend them openly!


              You can’t, because if Russia recognizes them, then for the sake of protection Donbass must ask Russia officially for help = officially introducing Russian troops.
              This will be perceived as practically Crimea 2.
              Putin has said several times that Donbass will not be attached, and that is the Ukrainian question.
              Having introduced troops, Russia will be able to help them openly, but then the Donbass will actually become Russian, if not de jure, the same fact.
              Moreover, there are a lot of Ukrainians - not like Crimea

              These are still new sanctions and more serious ones.

              If Russia is now helping in a quiet and therefore there are no consequences for it, then there will be sanctions, these are even more serious, possibly including the banking system and so on.

              No wonder Sberbank is afraid to open in the Crimea.

              Trump is likely to sign new sanctions soon.

              Therefore, for me, Russia will not recognize the Donbass in this way, or at least openly help, as this will give another reason for Europe and the United States to strengthen sanctions, and if now some European countries are slowly resisting and complaining that the sanctions are affecting them, then after the question with Donbass they will not be able to say anything, and this is in the hands of both the United States and those who want to impose even more serious sanctions.

              That is, Russia will also feed the Donbass (it will have to pour hundreds of billions into it - pensions, infrastructure, Russian-level salaries) + and there will also be more sanctions.
              The war may end, but Russia will obviously become worse.
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 7 January 2018 17: 31
                27
                Quote: Tiras
                You can’t, because if Russia recognizes them, then for the sake of protection Donbass must ask Russia officially for help = officially introducing Russian troops.

                You recall how everything happened in Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Well, how is it now, is the war going on? And as for the sanctions, I’ll say this: it doesn’t matter whether we recognize the republics of Donbass or don’t recognize them, they will be introduced anyway! And troops, if necessary, we will enter the Donbass! Putin clearly said: we will not let destroy the Donbass.
                1. Strips
                  Strips 7 January 2018 17: 44
                  +3
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  You recall how everything happened in Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Well, how is it now, is the war going on?


                  Do you know the size of the population of these territories?
                  These are different things and the approach and attitude towards the Donbass will be much more critical, especially against the background of the Crimea.

                  There will be no war in the Donbass, if Russia helps the troops, only what will be the result for Russia and its inhabitants?





                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  And as for the sanctions, I’ll say this: it doesn’t matter whether we recognize the republics of Donbass or don’t recognize them, they will be introduced anyway! And the troops, if necessary, we will enter there! Putin clearly said: we will not let destroy the Donbass.


                  Yes, but so far Russia is helping in a quiet and Donbass will not be destroyed.

                  This is a strong economic burden for Russia, which is already in the sanctions.

                  Maybe of course sanctions will be introduced this way and that, but at least Europeans will not seem to strengthen them if there is no reason.
                  1. SRC P-15
                    SRC P-15 7 January 2018 17: 57
                    14
                    Quote: Tiras
                    Do you know the size of the population of these territories?

                    And where does the "size" of the population? Do you know that Donbass is the most technologically developed territory of Ukraine? Do you think that they will be a burden to us? Yes, money will be needed to restore the destroyed! But Donbass can feed itself! Do not forget that almost all of the anthracite in Ukraine was mined there. So, they will sell this coal to Ukraine, it will not go anywhere! With American coal, it will fly into the pipe!
                    Quote: Tiras
                    Yes, but so far Russia is helping in a quiet and Donbass will not be destroyed.

                    Here you would settle in the fenced territory and see how you will live there, with the help of Russia "quietly"!
                    Quote: Tiras
                    Maybe of course sanctions will be introduced this way and that, but at least Europeans will not seem to strengthen them if there is no reason.

                    Do you still believe in good Europeans? If they are told to strengthen the sanctions, they will strengthen them, regardless of whether there is a reason for them or not!
                    1. Xnumx vis
                      Xnumx vis 7 January 2018 20: 59
                      +4
                      attach the Russian land to the Russian land, what is bad here! Yes, and Donbass hard worker. I have the impression of a continuous city of MASTERS about Donetsk lands! Workers and hard workers are the basis of these lands! Ukrainians, so half of Russia with Ukrainian surnames and what? Or they are not Russian to you!
                2. lexa333
                  lexa333 7 January 2018 18: 22
                  +1
                  It is hardly very sorry.
              2. loginovich
                loginovich 8 January 2018 00: 05
                0
                If paying pensions will certainly get worse. Your arguments convinced me.
            2. shvn
              shvn 7 January 2018 22: 47
              0
              Will we free the territory of the regions?
          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 7 January 2018 17: 24
            14
            In general, the war does not tolerate half measures! The illegal US military bases and coalitions of their allies have long had to be liquidated from the air, and it’s better not to let them form at all! It was also impossible to let the militants and their families out of the encirclement. After all, they knew how it would end.
            The enemy must be finished off in his lair, and not make concessions to him! Especially when he has external material support!
            The war between the USA and its collective West with Russia will be all the same! Russian oligarchs will be robbed in the West in any way, no matter how they lick their boots to globalists in the West! Russia needs to proceed from this.
            1. Going
              Going 7 January 2018 18: 50
              +5
              Yes, everything seems to be there for a long time and if the United States consolidates there it will be a hotbed of terrorists and they will not allow Syria to live peacefully.
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                1. Going
                  Going 7 January 2018 18: 56
                  +1
                  Yes, this is their business, they need markets and they need conflicts.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 7 January 2018 19: 03
                    +2
                    Quote: Going
                    Yes, everything seems to be there for a long time and if the United States consolidates there it will be a hotbed of terrorists and they will not allow Syria to live peacefully.

                    Not only Syria, but also the whole BV will not be allowed to live peacefully! As well as the countries of North Africa.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 7 January 2018 19: 05
                      +2
                      Going
                      Yes, this is their business, they need markets and they need conflicts.
                      Washington needs more than just markets — he needs colonies with a pro-American regime!

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            2. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 7 January 2018 21: 05
              +2
              Quote: Tatiana

              The war between the USA and its collective West with Russia will be all the same! Russian oligarchs will be robbed in the West in any way, no matter how they lick their boots to globalists in the West! Russia needs to proceed from this.

              Nuclear war? So then there will be nothing.
            3. MadCat
              MadCat 8 January 2018 05: 10
              +2
              Quote: Tatiana
              In general, the war does not tolerate half measures! The illegal US military bases and coalitions of their allies have long had to be liquidated from the air, and it’s better not to let them form at all! It was also impossible to let the militants and their families out of the encirclement. After all, they knew how it would end.

              even imagine the balance of power in the region? Once again I want to sparkle with heels after the next American strike on the base of the tomahawks? Then the Americans even deigned to warn, in which case they would not be so kind anymore, they know how to avenge their own, do not hesitate.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 8 January 2018 05: 37
                0
                MadCat
                even imagine the balance of power in the region? Once again I want to sparkle with heels after the next American strike on the base of the tomahawks? Then the Americans even deigned to warn, in which case they would not be so kind anymore, they know how to avenge their own, do not hesitate.
                Well, then what are we talking about some kind of our victory in Syria? A white flag in your hands - and go home to your mother for a bitch! Then either we need to be able to fight, or recognize the US victory in Syria!
                Do you understand that war is inevitable ?! That it can only be delayed for a while!
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 8 January 2018 06: 36
                  0
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  MadCat
                  even imagine the balance of power in the region? Once again I want to sparkle with heels after the next American strike on the base of the tomahawks? Then the Americans even deigned to warn, in which case they would not be so kind anymore, they know how to avenge their own, do not hesitate.
                  Well, then what are we talking about some kind of our victory in Syria? A white flag in your hands - and go home to your mother for a bitch! Then either we need to be able to fight, or recognize the US victory in Syria!
                  Do you understand that war is inevitable ?! That it can only be delayed for a while!

                  What kind of war? Nuclear?
          3. Panikovsky
            Panikovsky 7 January 2018 17: 25
            +5
            Quote: Tiras
            Russia is not taking them to itself, and therefore there is little sense. Well recognized and what? Will it make it easier for them? Will this make it easier for Russia?

            Of course it will. And they and Russia, and partners and steal hemorrhoids and hassle.
          4. vovanpain
            vovanpain 7 January 2018 18: 00
            +6
            Quote: Tiras
            Russia is not taking them to itself, and therefore there is little sense.

            Get out of the way, and if you take it to yourself? Ah? What will the USA lover do? Is it a big idea and it will be taken to YOURSELF, will you fight?
            Quote: Tiras
            But if the United States, and Europe behind it, recognizes this piece of Syria as the opposition, then that’s all - the land has fallen under Western control and the USA and Assad can forget about it.

            And if the United States and Trump forget about Syria and Assad, and Assad is not in a position to attack Israel, could there be peace in the Middle East?
          5. the most important
            the most important 7 January 2018 19: 15
            +2
            Quote: Tiras
            But if the United States, and Europe behind it, recognizes this piece of Syria as the opposition, then that’s all - the land has fallen under Western control and the USA and Assad can forget about it.
            Reply Quote Complaint

            There is nothing good about it ... But not everything is so terrible !!! This fact, with proper diplomacy, can unite Iran, Turkey, Syria, Iraq in the fight against this entity and against the United States. This territory will be in a complete hostile environment with the closure of all borders and with troops ready to attack it around the perimeter. And her neighbors will be ready to attack in two years from now. During a complete blockade, the Kurds will not be able to sell their oil anywhere and it is quite possible that they themselves will crawl back to Syria.
          6. the most important
            the most important 7 January 2018 19: 19
            +5
            Quote: Tiras
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Well, why: recognition of the republics of Donbass by Russia!
            And what will it give?
            Russia is not taking them to itself, and therefore there is little sense. Well recognized and what? Will it make it easier for them? Will this make it easier for Russia?

            No need to act standard and expected .... It is necessary to confuse the enemy !!! I must admit that the legal authority in Ukraine is in Donetsk !!! And start helping open Ukraine (i.e. Donetsk) !!
          7. Star
            Star 7 January 2018 20: 26
            +1
            But it is there, as always, that oil ...
          8. g1v2
            g1v2 7 January 2018 20: 36
            +6
            For starters, the United States is far away, but Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria are close by. And they all do not want the creation of Kurdistan. Moreover, up to the use of military force. Will the US bomb Turkey, whose second army is in NATO for the Kurds? I'm all for it . Ready to run for popcorn. good
            Then, besides the Kurds, a lot of people live in this territory - Turkomans, Arabs, Assyrians, Armenians and so on. And they really do not want to be in Kurdistan. Moreover, the Kurds have already begun ethnic cleansing in this territory. Weapons for everyone. Do Kurds have the strength to crush all ethnic and tribal groups in this territory? I doubt it.
            In addition, the Kurds are not united, which Kirkuk convincingly proved. That is, part of the Kurds is ready to be friends with Iran, another - with the Turks, and the third is ready to be part of Syria. There is no unity.
            Further, the territory of Syrian Kurdistan is surrounded by unfriendly neighbors who can easily arrange a blockade. Yes, and due to what to live then? There is little oil, and how can I sell it?
            Nothing has gone anywhere. Kurdistan in this situation is not too expensive for mattresses. In my opinion, they want to exchange it for something. If so . then sooner or later we’ll see what. hi
          9. Grits
            Grits 8 January 2018 06: 25
            +3
            the land has fallen under the control of the West and the USA and Assad may forget about it.[i] [/ i]
            This was stated a few months ago that it will be so. Therefore, it was impossible to give Omar. And even as soon as the Kurds abruptly moved towards Assassin’s troops, they had to mercilessly stop them. Up to the throwing of our landings to meet them. And the Kurdish movement would be stopped. But, pissed off the Americans. The Iraqis, there, were not afraid of the Americans and piled on the Kurds so that they immediately ran to their estates. And Assad with our generals because of the fear of the Americans drained the vast and richest territories of Syria.
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 8 January 2018 01: 03
          0
          ....so, what is next?
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 7 January 2018 17: 51
        +8
        The United States intends in the near future to take steps aimed at diplomatic recognition of the region located in northern Syria, which is under the control of the opposition "Democratic Syrian Forces" (SDS)

        Well, it's time for us to recognize the Lugansk and Donetsk Democratic Republics, with all the ensuing consequences .... (for Ukrainians naturally) hi
        1. Going
          Going 7 January 2018 18: 51
          +1
          For this, and will go bargaining.
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 7 January 2018 19: 12
            +4
            Quote: Going
            For this, and will go bargaining.

            Victor has been trading for the fourth year. request I don’t know, but with my scanty little mind I understand that we leave ourselves room for maneuver (whether we admit or not) if we recognize (this is a dream of the West, by the way), crests will have to deal with us in full, but since this is a kindergarten’s fight with high school student, the consequences are known, the whole "civilized" world comes up for the kindergartner, all sorts of nishtyaks are sent, but a high school boy is naturally boycotted and the gingerbread accompanying it. laughing If we don’t recognize, this is the situation now which is now, the Republics are not recognized, but we won’t give offense (although people continue to die). I don’t know Victor, let them actually abandon the Soviet period, even the issue is not in industry, and the fact that Russia gave them Slobozhanshchina (Kharkov, Sumy, etc.) Novorossia (Donetsk, Lugansk .....) give what they NEVER BELONGED to. Khokhly, nke choke on malice, I tell you this, the son of the RUSSIAN FATHER and MOTHER OF UKRAINE. hi
            1. Going
              Going 7 January 2018 19: 23
              +1
              Vlad, we think in our hearts, we don’t have all the information, politics is a very dirty thing and it is carried out through the death of innocent people and we certainly can’t measure it and we will resent, we can’t do more.
              1. vovanpain
                vovanpain 7 January 2018 19: 30
                +3
                Quote: Going
                politics is a very dirty thing and it is carried out through the death of innocent people

                Vitya, exactly, this is a very dirty thing and very bloody. request A heart what Your heart should be iron if you are hands request Briefly, let's not stir up the old. drinks hi Merry Christmas to you. drinks drinks drinks
                1. Going
                  Going 7 January 2018 19: 35
                  +1
                  Let's not, Happy Christmas drinks drinks drinks and let our hearts not be petrified by injustice, we will remain human.
                  1. vovanpain
                    vovanpain 7 January 2018 19: 38
                    +3
                    Quote: Going
                    we will remain human.

                    Victor Brother is mine! drinks hi Happiness and blessings to you all earthly and Welfare to you and everyone on the earthly path. With respect, Brother! hi
                    1. ghby
                      ghby 7 January 2018 20: 43
                      0
                      Republics without the whole outskirts are not needed. The goal is all of Ukraine. or most of it. If republics were needed, they would have been taken long ago. I wrote about this and will write.
      3. sir_obs
        sir_obs 7 January 2018 18: 21
        +2
        There is, it is necessary to recognize the LPR and the DPR, declare Parashenko a dictator, and call the regime fascist. And daily twirl that the junta should go.
      4. Gray brother
        Gray brother 7 January 2018 19: 31
        +1
        Quote: dorz
        And there is nothing to prevent this outrage.

        But you must? Just copy the behavior of Ukrainians on a similar issue, only without positional standing and soak all the wrong dudes. No body - no business.
      5. poquello
        poquello 7 January 2018 22: 00
        +1
        Quote: dorz
        Washington intends to diplomatically recognize SAR region

        And there is nothing to prevent this outrage.

        so forcibly you won’t be nice,)), they already didn’t diplomatically recognize Assad, because all their confessions are poh and they go
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      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 7 January 2018 18: 35
        +7
        Quote: Kent0001
        nehe P ATTEMPT TO BE SUPERPOWER.

        And we are not .................... a superpower, the superpower was the USSR, which now pour the tears of a crocodile laughing But the USA ALREADY is not a superpower, just don’t faint its lovers, I’m even not talking about Russia, with a marigold on the DPRK map, it sends mattresses on a long erotic journey laughing And YOU will tell me something about the greatness of America laughing Yes, my cat laughs at you, and I still pee on your shoes (not a colleague, not just you, but a striped one, they dragged us on them) and I know how to do it. I was a fighter of that superpower of the USSR and I will remain it, I swore to the SOVIET I served the PEOPLE as best I could, and we knew how and we could and the USSR only the last idiot could laugh, hell when the stripes would just say what they’re saying now. Brothers are just a cry from the heart, don’t take it to heart, I’m still a splinter of the USSR and I will meet you like a holiday, well, let's say in the face I want to get or pound. Merry Christmas everyone from the "Boy". drinks hi
        1. Going
          Going 7 January 2018 18: 52
          +2
          The world is on the verge of a great redivision and the process will begin with Syria.
        2. ghby
          ghby 7 January 2018 20: 46
          +1
          Quote: vovanpain
          I was a fighter of that superpower of the USSR and I will remain it, I swore allegiance to the SOVIET PEOPLE and served it as best I could, but we knew how and could and only the last idiot could laugh at the USSR, hell when the striped people would just say what they are saying now.

          Those who need and are able to now.
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 7 January 2018 18: 24
      +3
      Well rounded up the victims of the exam to 30 ....
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 7 January 2018 19: 05
      0
      Yeah. Jerasulim they have already recognized. If they admit, then they will in fact declare the ATS to be official terrorists - their "bitch children." Do they need this? lol
    5. Maz
      Maz 7 January 2018 20: 24
      0
      Yeah, yeah, apricots have forgotten only about Turks. This tumor under the southern nose of Sultan Erdogan will be perceived as a personal insult and a spit in the face of the descendants of the great Ottomans ..
  2. Rusland
    Rusland 7 January 2018 16: 56
    +8
    The second will be Israel. Restless.
  3. Andrey K
    Andrey K 7 January 2018 16: 57
    +8
    ... Washington intends to diplomatically recognize the OAR region controlled by the opposition ...

    This is called alien intervention.
    What the hell is "diplomatic recognition"?
    And if Assad, for example, by virtue of his "political illiteracy," will bring down uninvited "diplomats" in the territory of his state?
    At the same time, we’ll pinch the tail to the stricken “opposition”, then what? ...
    Probably in the UN Security Council, Nikki Haley will vote on the violated freedom of movement of "uninvited diplomats"?
    1. mihey
      mihey 7 January 2018 17: 00
      10
      this is called the "Kosovo option for Syria"
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 7 January 2018 17: 12
        0
        Quote: mihey
        this is called the "Kosovo option for Syria"

        Most like a Vietnamese!
        1. mihey
          mihey 7 January 2018 17: 18
          +2
          In Vietnam, there was no question of nationality or religious preferences, therefore I do not agree. Although the option of an indirect clash between Russia and the United States in this case is very real.
      2. dvina71
        dvina71 7 January 2018 17: 48
        +2
        Quote: mihey
        this is called the "Kosovo option for Syria"

        If only for Syria .., I can imagine how they strained in Istanbul ..
        1. Going
          Going 7 January 2018 18: 53
          +1
          This redistribution of all will affect both Turkey and Ukraine ...
    2. Strips
      Strips 7 January 2018 17: 10
      +2
      Quote: Andrey K
      And if Assad, for example, by virtue of his "political illiteracy," will bring down uninvited "diplomats" in the territory of his state? ...


      After diplomatic recognition by at least a few strong countries - the United States and, for example, France or Britain, small US troops and / or allies will quickly enter there as a defense, create a no-fly zone inside and if Assad climbs, they will shoot down and Russia will not be able to do anything like that how she herself will not take part in blows to the opposition, since there is already a USA like officially on a certain territory.

      Russia can only defend and cover up the fact that Assad has already been able to fight.
  4. Masya masya
    Masya masya 7 January 2018 17: 00
    +6
    Washington intends to diplomatically recognize the region controlled by the opposition SAR

    Correctly read- "Washington intends to diplomatically recognize the ATS region controlled by the militants ..."
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 7 January 2018 17: 11
      +2
      Here they are. Here in every mess in the world, Washington has to say something, clarify, threaten with a finger, and then - there is every way to show that he is the master in this mess! )
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 7 January 2018 17: 36
        +5
        Quote: DEZINTO
        Here they are. Here in every mess in the world, Washington has to say something, clarify, threaten with a finger, and then - there is every way to show that he is the master in this mess! )

        Everything is simple. The machine is in private hands, the Fed, not the US government. Kennedy only expressed his desire to take away the machine, as B. Baruch asked to visit him, who was at the base of the creation of the Fed along with V. Wilson. Do not agree. Three bullets from two points made Kennedy unable to take the machine. The military-industrial complex in the United States is all in private hands, will these ever calm down? No, the US is the hegemon of evil. By arranging wars and upheavals, they keep afloat the value of their main product, the dollar, which is actually not backed up by anything.
        The positions of the USA and Turkey are expected and predictable, for this they supported pocket terrorists in order to destroy Syria as a sovereign state. Iran and Russia have their own geopolitical and economic interests. This situation is for years. For this, Russia is creating its base in Syria. It remains to be regretted that late Assad turned to Russia for help.
        The issue of Russian PMCs is becoming increasingly relevant.
  5. Fedorov
    Fedorov 7 January 2018 17: 03
    +3
    Jerusalem already recognized, helped?
    No, well, kind of stupid or just politics. The Taliban would have been recognized .. it would be clearer. And then they've been messing around for 20 years, but there is no result. So it will be in Syria until Russia, and also China, Iran, Turkey declare their right to decide. And there are many rights there.
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 8 January 2018 05: 03
      +1
      Quote: Fedorov
      Jerusalem already recognized, helped?

      Of course it helped, it took many Arab dictatorships out of their comfort zone, pushed them to accept the fact that Jerusalem was the indivisible capital of Israel, which showed that the United States is strong enough and can defend its point of view, it’s BV, strength and strong people are respected.
  6. svp67
    svp67 7 January 2018 17: 03
    +7
    Washington intends to diplomatically recognize the region controlled by the opposition SAR
    Well, let's do it IT, once again, otherwise the Donetsk and Lugansk Republics ALREADY WAITED ....
  7. onix757
    onix757 7 January 2018 17: 05
    +1
    When the Union undertook to defend friendly regimes, it did not defend the entire territory and defended integrity by all means, and these were reckoned with. In the actions of modern Russia there is a tendency “just not to hit the face with dirt”, but what will happen on the way out ... but to hell with it.
  8. VAGNER
    VAGNER 7 January 2018 17: 09
    12
    Those who destroyed the proud population on the continent of America (several million) and then imported slaves (from Africa) to the plantation .. Do not believe the Russians, they will do this with our country ... No agreements with these vultures!
    1. Korax71
      Korax71 7 January 2018 20: 10
      +1
      And you personally conducted a census of the indigenous population of America ???? and so for your reference. The proud population itself was at war with the tribes, and so much so that some tribes crashed into the root even before the Europeans appeared there. But let's better believe in genocide, and soon there will be no reason to be friends against America.
  9. Korsar4
    Korsar4 7 January 2018 17: 15
    0
    To this went. Trading has begun. And quite by accident, as I understand it, there is oil there. Just where the Al Furat company worked.
  10. razved
    razved 7 January 2018 17: 16
    +3
    The UN, as usual, will not say a word about aggression and so on ... and the world community for some reason will not think about imposing sanctions for a gross violation of international law repeat
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 7 January 2018 22: 13
      +2
      Quote: razved
      The UN, as usual, will remain silent and not a word about aggression and other things ...

      Of course he will not say anything. You need to understand that the UN headquarters is located in New York, and although the buildings belong to all UN states, they are under US jurisdiction. And this implies the instantaneous deprivation of all these buildings, if someone dares to say something against. A striking example is the buildings of the Russian consulates. The UN has long been dancing to the tune of the United States, and hopes for any decisions against the United States are simply utopian.
      1. razved
        razved 8 January 2018 00: 21
        0
        Speak correctly. My comment is a statement of fact and position prevailing in world politics.
  11. groks
    groks 7 January 2018 17: 18
    10
    A perfectly expected and logical step. In response, Lavrov will remain silent, Zakharova will once again tell how she hates Stalin, Putin will continue to smile.
    1. foreman
      foreman 7 January 2018 18: 00
      +3
      and it made me laugh!
  12. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 7 January 2018 17: 19
    +8
    Well, that began the registration of the results of the war from de facto in de jure, the next is the Turkish zone, etc.
  13. bald
    bald 7 January 2018 17: 19
    +1
    It seems that only nature is fighting the American plague. Every single state - urinate in his pants. After all, metastasis forms again. And the fact that they have worked out is down the drain. Yes, they must be crushed. And Assad stuck his tongue - "ruler."
    1. Going
      Going 7 January 2018 19: 56
      +2
      Oh, how easy it is for us to argue ... not all, Russia was the first to raise her hand and say, and now it won’t be so, then China has fussed, and now the DPRK is sending stripes, living on the verge of a foul, there is something to think about.
      1. bald
        bald 7 January 2018 20: 07
        +1
        Yes, I completely agree, it's a shame - the Russian Aerospace Forces made a victory and left, and this Hydra will organize a 100 thousandth army, led by American trainers. You perfectly understand what it will result in.
        1. Going
          Going 7 January 2018 20: 10
          +1
          We do not know all the information, we are guessing at speculation, but we know for sure that you don’t have to wait for anything good, but how you want to believe ...
          1. bald
            bald 7 January 2018 20: 13
            +1
            Unfortunately, this is so.
  14. andron-30
    andron-30 7 January 2018 17: 27
    +2
    Kurds can be understood, there is a people there is no state, how to understand the United States they have everything even more than everything, why? I'm asking ? Usa is killed by thousands of children around the world, there’s at least some justification for it, no. And maybe the politicians of the United States are not informed and I think they will bear their hard punishment, Merry Christmas to you Orthodox
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 7 January 2018 17: 48
      0
      And they began, quite by accident, from Syria, and not from Turkey.

      Merry Christmas!

      Only here is another example when "Caesar is Caesar's".
    2. demo
      demo 7 January 2018 18: 19
      +2
      It remains to hope for Yellowstone.
      Only not very much. So that Russia is not affected.
      1. Going
        Going 7 January 2018 19: 57
        +1
        He will affect everyone.
  15. Zomanus
    Zomanus 7 January 2018 17: 29
    +1
    Yeah, in Serbia we saw it.
    That is, they create on an ongoing basis
    territory for training and dropping terrorists into Syria.
    some ...
  16. lopvlad
    lopvlad 7 January 2018 17: 36
    +1
    Washington intends to diplomatically recognize the region controlled by the opposition SAR


    everyone can admit everything you want and it won’t change anything. It would be if Russia left Syria as from Afghanistan and this is an attempt by the United States to cling to the land of Syria. It’s possible to cling, but it will not be possible to expand while Russia is there.
    The territory there is large but mostly desert and small settlements. For example, if the DPR and LPR completely controlled the territory of their regions, then the Kiev regime would have already collapsed.
    1. onix757
      onix757 7 January 2018 17: 52
      0
      And of course we know that the Union controlled the territory of Afghanistan with the help of the 100 thousandth army and that not a single base officially formalized it while our troops were stationed. About losses of 14 thousand, a very good result for a conflict lasting 10 years, when in the Russian Federation on the roads a little more are killed per year
    2. Korax71
      Korax71 7 January 2018 20: 13
      0
      So almost the entire desert Assad and controls.
  17. Simon
    Simon 7 January 2018 17: 58
    +1
    Quote: Tiras
    But if the United States, and Europe behind it, recognizes this piece of Syria as the opposition, then that’s all - the land has fallen under Western control and the USA and Assad can forget about it.

    I do not agree! If Russia stands up for Assad, then in this case, the Americans, it is quite possible to forget about something. Our Assad will not surrender - not the same character as the Americans. Americans have used and forgotten.
    1. corporal
      corporal 8 January 2018 07: 10
      0
      Quote: Simon
      Our Assad will not surrender - not the same character as the Americans.

      Najibullah your bravura post does not understand
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 14 January 2018 16: 35
        +1
        Najibullah


        those who would have surrendered the operation to Nadzhibulu in general in Syria if they had begun on the US side, and Kozyrev would have asked the American master every day what position we should stand in.
  18. foreman
    foreman 7 January 2018 17: 59
    +3
    so then all the same section? But what about Putin’s declaration of victory over igil ??!
    1. onix757
      onix757 7 January 2018 18: 17
      +3
      The igil won) There was a mere trifle, a hundred other similar "igil"
  19. flicker
    flicker 7 January 2018 18: 11
    +2
    Well, as always, well done, they will unite Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Iran even more strongly. How and to whom will Kurds sell their oil? Fortunately, Abu Kemal was under Syrian control; there will be no land corridor to Jordan. Will oil be transported by transport aircraft? In addition to Israel, they will also take on the Kurds? And this provided that the yuan will squeeze the dollar. Oh well.
  20. Tusv
    Tusv 7 January 2018 18: 19
    +1
    Well, Tada, we recognize Texas as a separate country with a clear conscience.
    Freedom to cowboys dishonestly enslaved am Prizidensky ranch to the people. Down with the invaders
  21. Overlock
    Overlock 7 January 2018 19: 09
    0
    that’s the Kosovo Precedent. Silent glanders and no one will object
  22. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 7 January 2018 19: 10
    0
    Humanitarian bombing would help ...
  23. Overlock
    Overlock 7 January 2018 19: 13
    0
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    Well, why: recognition of the republics of Donbass by Russia!

    emotionally agree. But if you count, I'm not sure. As I understand it, the point of LDNR is to shove them into the state of Ukraine and reformat the latter. Ukraine understood this and opposes it. This is beneficial to her. Then what is our benefit? I feel sorry for people, the war must be stopped, but in my opinion, this is tsuzwang
  24. Overlock
    Overlock 7 January 2018 19: 14
    +1
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    Putin clearly said: we will not let destroy the Donbass.

    but he said that Donbass is Ukraine
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 7 January 2018 19: 53
      0
      Quote: Overlock
      but he said that Donbass is Ukraine

      YES go down already .. GDP also spoke about Abkhazia and South Ossetia ..
    2. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 7 January 2018 20: 17
      +6
      Quote: Overlock
      but he said that Donbass is Ukraine


      Wrong, Ukraine is part of the Donbass, and not vice versa))
  25. Overlock
    Overlock 7 January 2018 19: 16
    0
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    Ukraine will not fight with Russia!

    And why not?
    Attack and surrender! The loser is fed by the winner. Are you ready to feed 35 million people, most of whom are negative about Russia and don’t want / cannot work?
    In the eyes of the "enlightened world", Russia is an aggressor, and confirmation will appear.
    The son-in-law recently was on a business trip to Holland, talked with enlightened people. They are fully confident that Russia will soon attack Europe. On the arguments of the son-in-law - no reaction!
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 7 January 2018 22: 20
      0
      Quote: Overlock
      Attack and surrender! The loser is fed by the winner. Are you ready to feed 35 million people, most of whom are negative about Russia and don’t want / cannot work?

      Well, nowhere is it said that they need to be fed on their territory ... Far beyond the Urals there is a lot of uninhabited land. If they are satisfied with the prospect of feeding on the southern coast of the North Sea - let them give up. laughing
  26. Mihail55
    Mihail55 7 January 2018 19: 20
    0
    If this happens, it will not be clear if LDNR will not be recognized by us.
  27. Prutkov
    Prutkov 7 January 2018 19: 25
    +3
    Vietnam starts number 2. Only in more difficult conditions - seaports, land supply routes are stretched even under the blows of the Syrians. The aircraft remained. And it's expensive. And mysterious "barmales" with Pzrk may appear. In general, if the Americans want to get into Syria besides Afghanistan, do not bother them to make mistakes. Yes, and to hide the death of diplomats in Syrian Kurdistan, if anything, will be more difficult than special forces. ON Donbass. Today it is more profitable for Donbass to be considered Ukraine. Soon elections in Ukraine. If the Ukrainian authorities cannot organize elections in the Donbass, then Russia will have every reason not to recognize the elections as legitimate. Following. Gas. If Donbass is Ukraine, then Ukraine must pay for the supplied gas. Stockholm arbitration obliged Ukraine to buy annually 4 billion m3 of prepaid gas. So do not twitch.
  28. Overlock
    Overlock 7 January 2018 19: 31
    0
    In the coming days, the US administration will be ready to unveil steps on the territorial division of Syria. It is reported by the inter-Arab newspaper Asharq al-Awsat.

    Under the control of their military, the United States is ready to transfer the region east of the Euphrates River, whose area is approximately 24 thousand square kilometers, which is three times the territory of Lebanon. This bridgehead will become the territory on which the opposition "Syrian Democratic Forces" (SDS) units will be deployed.

    The operation on the territorial division of Syria is carried out under the patronage of US Secretary of Defense James Mattis, who said that Washington will send American diplomats to the areas under the control of the SDS, along with military instructors.

    REX news agency recalls that Kurds concentrated in the northern regions of Syria, with the direct support of the US-led international coalition, have begun to form the "Army of the North of Syria", which will include the formation of the SDS.

    According to the command of the created militarized structure, the main goal of the “Army of the North of Syria” will be “protecting and ensuring the security of the borders of the federal region in northern Syria”. The command of the formed "army" said that the international coalition "provides it with technical assistance, supplies weapons and is engaged in military training of recruits."

    It is assumed that the “Army of the North of Syria” will unite the SDS formations opposing the Syrian government, Kurdish self-defense units and several more disparate groups located in this region. The command of the created structure is convinced that its total number in the border regions will be about 100 thousand people.
    1. Chord
      Chord 7 January 2018 21: 45
      +1
      Yes, I agree, there will be a great reason for bargaining. Part of Syria in exchange for the Donbass. Although I think we need to take it wider, Ukraine is all, plus smaller figures like Moldova and the whole Baltic. Tempting, very. And what is the flip side of the coin? You can completely forget about the Middle East. Anyway, about all partners. For this, in place of the Americans, you can generally surrender the entire territory of the USSR. And what is the result? We get an adder, which is difficult to evaluate. Bargaining, in this case, is excluded.
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  30. rocket757
    rocket757 7 January 2018 19: 45
    +4
    They were gangsters, gangsters will remain ... I'm on the Jankers!
    And Erdogan is how "happy"!?!?!? He and his Kurds have problems above the roof, but hello here !!! legalized enclave of Kurds!
    1. Going
      Going 7 January 2018 19: 58
      +2
      So the United States needs this, the war of all with everyone.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 January 2018 22: 01
        +3
        Such tactics are “normal” - the fire is brighter, and the Yankees with their “chestnuts” are next to them.
        It’s a matter of everyday life, but for some reason many who want to trample on the striped ... just wait that \ when someone can substitute the bandwagon for them !!!
  31. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 January 2018 19: 55
    +2
    Will not work. In striatum this option will not work. Turkey will not allow the United States to play the Kurdish card.
    Figs knows how, but this is a new reality, and the "light elves" are not able to recognize it, much less use it ... They don’t know what they can at all ... wassat
    1. Going
      Going 7 January 2018 20: 12
      +3
      There will be a very delicate game and trading is not childish, we will see.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 January 2018 22: 03
        +3
        A subtle game of course, of course, is “beautiful,” but it seems to me that Trump is more like an elephant in a china shop ???
  32. Ural resident
    Ural resident 7 January 2018 19: 59
    +1
    As with Korea, Germany, Vietnam, China, etc.
    There will be East and West Syria, who fiercely hate each other.
    US does not change its strategy
    1. Going
      Going 7 January 2018 20: 13
      +1
      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      US does not change its strategy


      And they don’t even bother, all according to the pattern.
  33. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 7 January 2018 20: 14
    +3
    If the Russian Federation does not agree with the United States on this stupid adventure, bombs will also fall on the north of Syria. They didn’t seem to touch them, but they could crush them to shreds.
  34. Overlock
    Overlock 7 January 2018 20: 37
    0
    Quote: dvina71
    YES go down already .. GDP also spoke about Abkhazia and South Ossetia ..

    you want to say that Putin is deceiving everyone in this matter?
  35. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 7 January 2018 20: 56
    +4
    Great news! Is the US actually ready to declare war on the SAR, Iraq, Iran and ... Turkey !? In fact, this will mean a split of the Coalition against Assad and Turkey’s withdrawal from NATO! With all the consequences arising from all this ... on the consequences? An interesting movie turns out - "Yalta 45" ("Potsdam") CANCELED !!! All the holiday and health to you!
  36. faterdom
    faterdom 7 January 2018 21: 57
    +1
    Such a move would be a blow to Turkey’s interests much more strongly than to Assad, or even less so to Russia. And such a “state” can exist only conditionally, in the regime of Libya or Afghanistan, that is, an ongoing war with many parties. And even it will be extremely difficult and expensive for the Americans to be based there - it’s possible to bombard Khmeimim with mortars, but it’s also possible to El-Tanf or the same Raqqa and not only mortars.
    So this will be one of the last stupid things that Americans can do in BV, for the next equal error they will no longer have neither the strength nor the money. (Although, as yet, the penultimate one with Jerusalem didn’t come back to them in full force, it is only gaining momentum).
  37. Woland
    Woland 8 January 2018 00: 58
    0
    Assad has only one way out - for now the essence and the matter is to seize their lands and destroy all the militants. What would be in time before the official announcement of a new caliphate Otherwise, he will have to fight with America
  38. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 8 January 2018 03: 33
    0
    I feel that the world will not come to Syria soon ...
  39. aKtoR
    aKtoR 8 January 2018 09: 48
    0
    The question is different: Does the Russian Federation recognize this?
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 8 January 2018 13: 39
      0
      And especially Turkey
  40. Berg berg
    Berg berg 8 January 2018 11: 29
    0
    And Russia diplomatically recognizes Novorossia and Alaska as independent Russian territories!
  41. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 8 January 2018 13: 38
    0
    Most of all, this recognition will be “glad” Erdogan, whose Kurdish quasi-state is formed at his side, with which he is fighting.
  42. Mariner
    Mariner 8 January 2018 15: 47
    0
    Quote: dorz
    recognize the ATS region
    And there is nothing to prevent this outrage.

    And why bother? You just need to put this recognition on the device.
  43. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 8 January 2018 21: 46
    0
    Ugh on their diplomacy! They diplomatically destroyed millions of civilians. However, in front of the capital all the servants and diplomats and generals ...
  44. icas
    icas 9 January 2018 00: 00
    0
    Quote: dorz
    Washington intends to diplomatically recognize SAR region

    And there is nothing to prevent this outrage.

    In response, recognize the DNI and LC.