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Russian senator called the "lawlessness" the EU claim against Russia because of the ban on imports of pork

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Deputy Chairman of the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the Federation Council Vladimir Dzhabarov called the lawlessness of Brussels to recover from Russia 1,39 billion euros per year because of the restriction of pork imports, the channel reports RT.


Russian senator called the "lawlessness" the EU claim against Russia because of the ban on imports of pork


The World Trade Organization (WTO) has already submitted an EU claim to arbitration.

So far, what the EU claims is chaos. In the financial markets there are restrictions, our companies are banned. In connection with what? Why such inequality?
said Jabarov.

He noted that "the EU has introduced economic sanctions since 2014, considering it to be normal, and tries to present retaliatory measures as a violation of WTO rules."

Where was the WTO when they imposed sanctions against Russia? If things go well, then you need to ask: does it make sense to be in the WTO and what does participation in this organization give us? In addition to problems and complete insecurity from the sanctions policy, it does not give us anything. If this is submitted to the arbitration court, then we must defend our interests in full, until withdrawal from the WTO,
stressed the senator.

According to him, even if the court recognizes the legality of the claim, Moscow should refuse to execute it.

We must follow the path of the Americans. They are interested in national interest, they do not recognize all international courts. If the court recognizes this claim lawful, in my opinion, it acts illegally. This court decision cannot be executed to the detriment of the Russian economy,
concluded Jabarov.

Recall that Russia imposed a ban on the import of pork in 2014 year after an outbreak of African swine fever was recorded in Poland and Lithuania. Later, pork was included in the food embargo imposed by Moscow in response to Western sanctions.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 7 January 2018 16: 10
    34
    Yes, exit the WTO! Business then!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 7 January 2018 16: 12
      47
      No, no way out. Here is to express deep concern, yes! I won’t be surprised if we pay ..
      Quote: Theodore
      Yes, exit the WTO! Business then!
      1. svp67
        svp67 7 January 2018 16: 14
        21
        Quote: 210ox
        Here is to express deep concern, yes! I won’t be surprised if we pay ..

        And most importantly, all this time we will be indignant, threaten to go to court and DO NOT DO ANYTHING. "Great" position. But what else should they do? They will lead otherwise, for the benefit of Russia and another of our "senators", with "cash suitcases" in the EU country will be delayed ....
        1. Hoc vince
          Hoc vince 7 January 2018 16: 24
          12
          Well, yes, and tomorrow we will leave the WTO, the liberals will whine that Putin has isolated us from the bright west.
          1. Thrall
            Thrall 7 January 2018 16: 29
            52
            Let the EU feed the refugees with its pork.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 7 January 2018 16: 50
              20
              Quote: Thrall
              Let the EU feed the refugees with its pork.

              Muslims? belay
              Good you laughing
              1. Dedall
                Dedall 7 January 2018 18: 05
                +3
                And why not?
              2. Tatyana
                Tatyana 7 January 2018 18: 13
                32
                Here's how not to remember Stalin!
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 7 January 2018 18: 17
                  21
                  After all, the Communists warned the authorities about the WTO, but still entered the WTO of the Russian Federation on conditions unequal with the West! By the way, not as an example of the PRC!
                  How can one not recall Stalin about the roots of the counter-revolution in the USSR / RF ?!
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                  1. KaPToC
                    KaPToC 8 January 2018 00: 51
                    +3
                    Quote: Joseph
                    Blank – Leninist Judo-Bolshevik Party annihilated 196,4 million Russians

                    Appetite comes with eating???
                    1. Nick
                      Nick 8 January 2018 12: 54
                      0
                      Quote: KaPToC
                      Quote: Joseph
                      Blank – Leninist Judo-Bolshevik Party annihilated 196,4 million Russians

                      Appetite comes with eating???

                      Inflammation of the brain.
                  2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 13: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: Joseph
                    196,4 million Russians destroyed

                    fool
              3. garnik
                garnik 8 January 2018 10: 45
                +1
                Even as they eat when in their circle. And so they pretend that the true believers.
            2. private person
              private person 7 January 2018 16: 53
              +8
              Thrall Today, 16: 29 ↑ New
              Let the EU feed the refugees with its pork.
              You were joking. I would see what would happen to the EU if at the refugee accommodation centers they began to feed pork stew and sandwiches with lard.
            3. Non liberoid Russian
              Non liberoid Russian 7 January 2018 17: 04
              +2
              yes you are a sadist :)
            4. mihey
              mihey 7 January 2018 17: 13
              +2
              Right! Just don’t tell anyone that this is 1,5-2 year old pork ... what a pleasure you can experience from such an expectation :)
            5. Theodore
              Theodore 7 January 2018 18: 33
              +3
              good Shine! So answer!
            6. forester
              forester 7 January 2018 20: 30
              +2
              Quote: Thrall
              Let the EU feed the refugees with its pork.

              I absolutely agree - a pig is not a cow - it was born in the spring - it failed, and the sow breeds no worse than a rabbit))), so our pig farmers will quickly fill up the lack of pork, and yes, the word "lawlessness" does not translate into Euro-language, so this type of air is in vain shakes.
          2. PalBor
            PalBor 7 January 2018 17: 01
            18
            Quote: Hoc vince
            Well, yes, and tomorrow we will leave the WTO, the liberals will whine that Putin has isolated us from the bright west.

            The fact that liberals whimper to spit on everyone, even liberals, if only grants were allocated.
            But about the detention of the senator - yes. The senator will not take his eyes off the senator, especially not from his own.
            Looks like they screamed: “No Russia! No Games!” And-and-and? Zhukov walks a month proud and tells how he apologized from all over Russia.
            I can’t already ... Such shame ... Especially when you look at our imperious smug faces.
          3. Gardamir
            Gardamir 7 January 2018 18: 02
            +3
            liberals will whine
            Why are you so afraid of liberals?
            1. Hoc vince
              Hoc vince 7 January 2018 19: 31
              +2
              Not. Just knowing them, all the time I want to urgently take a shower.
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 7 January 2018 19: 49
                +2
                I want to urgently take a shower.
                pofik. The scavenger also gets dirty, but after it is clean.
          4. Vasya Vassin
            Vasya Vassin 7 January 2018 19: 30
            +2
            Why are liberals whining about their leader?
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 7 January 2018 23: 58
          +1
          This is not the first “pig” lawsuit of the European Union against Russia. In August 2016, the WTO supported the EU lawsuit in connection with the embargo imposed by Russia regarding the restriction on imports from the EU countries of pork, offal and live pigs. The reason for the claims in Brussels was considered that the restrictions imposed by Russia do not meet the standards of the International Bureau of Epizootics and the requirements of the WTO on sanitary measures. The WTO believes that the “illegal” Russian embargo has hit farmers in Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands before. At the same time, they “forget” in the WTO that Moscow imposed restrictions on the supply of pork and a number of other products from the EU countries in response to anti-Russian sectoral sanctions of the European Union, introduced in 2014 after the reunification of Crimea with Russia.

          According to the Politico newspaper, “the leadership of the European Union is increasing pressure on Russia in the battle of mirror sanctions, and the case of the financial recovery from Moscow was brought about by the WTO, which considers it illegal to ban import of pork from the EU.”

          Russia introduced a ban on the import of pork from EU countries back in 2014, when cases of African swine fever were recorded in Poland and Lithuania. At the same time, pork was included as part of the embargo in the list of prohibited products.

          In 2016, the WTO decided that the Russian embargo is contrary to the Agreement on the application of sanitary and phytosanitary measures of the organization. Russia filed an appeal, but it was rejected by the Arbitration Court.

          In the fall of 2017, Moscow expanded the food “black list” by banning the import of live pigs and offal from the EU, USA, Canada and several other countries that had joined the anti-Russian sanctions at one time.

          "Thus, Moscow closed the" gray "supply channels used to import some goods under the guise of others and causing damage to domestic producers," RIA Novosti quoted Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich.

          According to open data, before the embargo was introduced, imports from the EU in 2012 amounted to 227,6 thousand heads worth 78,7 million dollars, or 98 percent of their total imports, in 2013 - 29,5 thousand heads worth 23 million dollars, or 36 percent of total imports. +

          What will be the final decision of the international arbitration, and whether European pork will return to Russia, experts do not undertake to predict. However, most of them are inclined to believe that the prospects for the return of European pork to the Russian market are still “in doubt”. Even if the Arbitration Court decides that Russia has violated any internal rules of the WTO, Moscow will still have the opportunity to appeal this decision and win the next court.
        3. Nick
          Nick 8 January 2018 00: 23
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          No, no way out. Here is to express deep concern, yes! I won’t be surprised if we pay ..

          Quote: svp67
          And most importantly, all this time we will be indignant, threaten to go to court and DO NOT DO ANYTHING. "Great" position. But what else should they do?

          Stop the tantrum! Behave as exalted college girls. Drink bromine, maybe it will help with nerves.
          Nothing happened yet, but you already put yourselves yelling! We will live, we will see, we will see - we will discuss.
          1. Kent0001
            Kent0001 8 January 2018 01: 46
            +1
            ..so yes, we’ve already seen a lot of things.
          2. svp67
            svp67 8 January 2018 05: 17
            0
            Quote: Nick
            Stop the tantrum!

            And where did you see the tantrum? You have hallucinations. If you want to prove the opposite, give examples when our country not only intimidated, but also filed a lawsuit against the unlawfulness of the EU’s actions in the light of these sanctions-counter-sanctions ...
            1. Nick
              Nick 8 January 2018 07: 52
              0
              Quote: svp67
              And where did you see the tantrum?

              In comments.
              Quote: svp67
              You have hallucinations.

              It is with you.
              Quote: svp67
              If you want to prove the opposite, give examples when our country not only intimidated, but also filed a lawsuit against the unlawfulness of EU actions

              There will be a need and there will be suits and something else. While there is no such need and there is nothing to chat.
              But bromine will not help you too much. You have a problem with thought processes.
              1. svp67
                svp67 8 January 2018 07: 58
                +1
                Quote: Nick
                There will be a need and there will be suits and something else. While there is no such need and there is nothing to chat.

                Yes, what are you saying ... No need? Well then, there is no need to talk about "lawlessness" ...
                Quote: Nick
                But bromine will not help you too much. You have a problem with thought processes.

                You run up .... You have to celebrate skillfully, that in the morning you won’t give out such pearls.
                1. Nick
                  Nick 8 January 2018 12: 25
                  0
                  Quote: svp67
                  Yes, what are you saying ... No need? Well then, there is no need to talk about "lawlessness" ...

                  And I didn’t speak. The deputy says, and he, as I understand it, states the actions of the EU
                  Quote: svp67

                  You run up .... You have to celebrate skillfully, that in the morning you won’t give out such pearls.

                  So this is a wish for you. Write all sorts of nonsense, and in retaliation, for my fair answer to you, petty dirty tricks, delete my comment, under a far-fetched pretext, in which there is not a word of obscene language. You are our moderator. hi
              2. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 08: 35
                +5
                Quote: Nick
                You have ... a problem

                And you would have to re-read the "Site Rules", especially the last two lines.
                Nothing personal request
                1. Nick
                  Nick 8 January 2018 12: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  And you would have to re-read the "Site Rules", especially the last two lines.
                  Nothing personal

                  And tovarisch, for the fact that I opposed him in one of the comments, deleted my koment, in which there was not a word of obscene language, and also sent me a warning that they say mate.
                  And in general, why the moderators participate in the discussion of the article, and even with biased, provocative, I would even say, comments. Drive such a neck from the site.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 12: 49
                    +4
                    Quote: Nick
                    Nick

                    You are ... funny laughing
                    I will explain:

                    Here lies the body of William Jay
                    Who died maintaining his right of way
                    He was right, dead right, as he sped along,
                    But he's just as dead as if he were wrong

                    Quote: Free translation
                    Here lies the body of William Jay,
                    Who died defending his right to cross the street.
                    He was absolutely right when he did this,
                    But now he's just as dead as if he were wrong
                    .

                    Alas request
                    1. Nick
                      Nick 8 January 2018 19: 41
                      0
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Quote: Free translation
                      Here lies the body of William Jay,
                      Who died defending his right to cross the street.
                      He was absolutely right when he did this,
                      But now he is as dead as if he were wrong.
                      Alas

                      All this would be sad, but alas, God does not have death.
                      If they remove me from the site, then they are worse. Firstly, image losses in connection with biased refereeing, if I may say so. How do you feel about an arbiter who judges a match and simultaneously plays for one of the teams, eh?
                      Secondly, the loss of visitors carries the risk of losing advertising deductions, and here, if you notice the most painful site of the VO site. at least in the last year and a half. So many biased articles and references to thereof have recently appeared here for a reason. Explicitly paid order. Salvage wins everything, so to speak.
                      I am on the site for the sixth year. The old-timer can say, I can compare what happened, and what became and, accordingly, draw the right conclusions. Alas, in the last year or two the site has changed, and not for the better. Alas.
                      And the fact that I amused you, then excuse me, involuntarily happened. But I am glad that my comments brought you positive emotions.
                      Yours! hi
      2. Going
        Going 7 January 2018 16: 16
        16
        The article does not provide complete information, but Europe must be put in place.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 7 January 2018 16: 19
          +1
          EU lawsuit against Russia over ban on pork imports
          Today, 16: 08
          "alternative thinking ..." fool
        2. Herculesic
          Herculesic 7 January 2018 16: 34
          +7
          Going hi -Europe should be put ra-com, and for a long time already! At least with the coup in Kiev!
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 7 January 2018 18: 19
            +6
            Vitalievich, howdy there! love
            Quote: Herkulesich
            Europe must be put ra-com, and for a long time already!

            So Europe, in front of the states, in this position for a long time ... and they do not give it to disperse ...
            hut, hut, stand up to the forest back to me, spinning like a spinning top ... lol
          2. forester
            forester 7 January 2018 20: 38
            +2
            Quote: Herkulesich
            Going hi -Europe should be put ra-com, and for a long time already! At least with the coup in Kiev!

            Yes, it has been standing like this for a long time - two users use it - Erdogan and trump (formerly a macaque from a hut) by helicopter - orally and anally, we just need to tell them (the Geyropeans) their place they deserve
        3. Kent0001
          Kent0001 8 January 2018 01: 47
          0
          But tell me, well, how can Europe be replaced?
      3. newcomer
        newcomer 7 January 2018 16: 18
        +8
        Dmitry, Merry Christmas Khrikhtov! no, we won’t pay. ours are thinking of bringing a counterclaim for losses, and this is many times more than Europe requires. but, in any case, Russia is not going to pay, until the exit from the WTO. infa: RIA Novosti.
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 16: 50
          +3
          Dear Beginner! I would not be so sure in your place that Russia would not pay. However, wait and see.
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 7 January 2018 17: 01
            +8
            for some reason I’m sure, and not just me. But you think the Russian Federation will pay 1,4 billion. for the first year 1.4 15 for each subsequent? you understand that this is a incident, followed by a lawsuit in general for our counter-sanctions, from which Europe lost over 50bn.
            1. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 17: 04
              +4
              This is indeed a precedent, and in Europe, in most countries, Anglo-Saxon law, as I all know, is based precisely on precedents. So soon there will be a second act of Marlezon ballet. Alas, the current government has made too many miscalculations.
              1. newcomer
                newcomer 7 January 2018 17: 28
                +3
                The second part will be our counterclaim. We will fight for our interests.
                1. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 17: 53
                  +2
                  Well, I’m saying, wait and see! Although honestly I do not believe.
              2. Nick
                Nick 8 January 2018 00: 28
                0
                Quote: andrej-shironov
                Alas, the current government has made too many miscalculations.

                If I were you, I wouldn’t speak so confidently about the miscalculation ... bully
                1. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 09: 12
                  0
                  Why? I’ll tell you more, these payments say so some kind of reparation for the construction of SP2. I'm afraid that there will be none and SP2
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 09: 46
                    +4
                    Quote: andrej-shironov
                    I’ll tell you more, these payments say so some kind of reparation for the construction of SP2

                    Do you know this for sure, or do you think so?
                    If suddenly it’s true you know - share the source of knowledge ... well, here very interesting winked
                    1. andrej-shironov
                      andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 09: 57
                      0
                      laughing Ahhhh! I thought the new one, and it's you! We switched to you wink Golovan, I wrote, wait and see. I am more than sure that for the sake of SP2 our government will not swallow it, but Europe feels it very well and enjoys it. Of course, for the people of Russia it is necessary to create the appearance of indignation. When the big loot is at stake, our government is ready to sell the hell to mom.
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 10: 02
                        +4
                        Quote: andrej-shironov
                        We switched to you

                        It was you who switched to you. I’m with you ... I didn’t drink at the Brudershaft, I repeat.
                        Quote: andrej-shironov
                        ... I wrote, wait and see. I am more than sure that ...

                        Clear. That is, you don’t really know anything, and just stir up the water.
                        So let's write it down.
                        UK yes
                  2. Nick
                    Nick 8 January 2018 19: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: andrej-shironov
                    Why? I’ll tell you more, these payments say so some kind of reparation for the construction of SP2. I'm afraid that there will be none and SP2

                    So then it is not a miscalculation, but rather a delicate calculation. As my acquaintance says, very experienced in concluding profitable contracts, the problem is not the size of the bribe, the problem is the ability to give it in such a way that it is taken. And you say miscalculations. On the contrary, it turns out. Our leaders in the big leagues. Grandmasters in one word. hi
      4. cariperpaint
        cariperpaint 7 January 2018 16: 25
        +3
        you approximately imagine how much effort and money was invested to enter there? and how much after the release will you have to spend to move away from their norms? sometimes it’s better to keep silent. about how duties will increase after that, and prices, I generally keep quiet
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          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 7 January 2018 16: 34
            +7
            Quote: newbie
            ... would you go to RIA news

            good heartily sent good
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 7 January 2018 16: 36
              +6
              I try not to escalate, Christmas is all the same, but what kind of hello is the answer.
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        3. sabakina
          sabakina 7 January 2018 17: 41
          +8
          cariperpaint They themselves understood what they wrote? What means? And what are we? How Great Britain are in the EU to pay for exit? fool
          1. cariperpaint
            cariperpaint 8 January 2018 04: 59
            +1
            What does the EU have to do with it? the organization is global, not European. and no matter how long you write, just read what exactly she does and what its meaning is in general.
        4. Gardamir
          Gardamir 7 January 2018 18: 04
          +7
          how much effort and money was invested to enter there?
          Standard training manual. recently it sounded like athletes trained.
        5. Dedall
          Dedall 7 January 2018 18: 11
          +6
          China is not a member of the WTO, and our people, by their bulk, use goods from there. For Muscovites, this can and will be a problem. And in general, I think that the output will stimulate our production.
          1. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 7 January 2018 18: 56
            +6
            Quote: Dedall
            China is not a member of the WTO, and our people, by their bulk, use goods from there. For Muscovites, this can and will be a problem. And in general, I think that the output will stimulate our production.


            China officially became a member of the WTO on December 11. During this time, China took first place in the world in terms of exports, second place in terms of imports, became the second largest economy in the world and takes second place in the world in terms of foreign investment used.
            WTO - just a tool that you need to be able to use. Only this tool should work, and not lie in the warehouse with a dead weight.
            1. Kent0001
              Kent0001 8 January 2018 01: 50
              0
              This is you about China .. but not about us. So we do not shine ... by definition. Especially with our unfortunate officials.
        6. Nick
          Nick 8 January 2018 00: 32
          0
          Quote: cariperpaint
          how much will you have to spend after leaving to move away from their norms? sometimes it’s better to keep silent. about how duties will increase after that, and prices, I generally keep quiet

          For oil and gas? These are the main products of our export. Let them increase it. They also pay.
          1. cariperpaint
            cariperpaint 8 January 2018 04: 59
            0
            here import is much more important
            1. Nick
              Nick 8 January 2018 07: 58
              0
              Quote: cariperpaint
              here import is much more important

              So we ourselves seemingly refused to import them. Counter-sanctions are about that. Because of this, they write applications to the courts. You somehow sort out the situation ... hi
              1. cariperpaint
                cariperpaint 8 January 2018 14: 42
                +1
                but like we all banned goods for import yes /))) in general everything)))
                1. Nick
                  Nick 8 January 2018 19: 52
                  0
                  Quote: cariperpaint
                  but like we all banned goods for import yes /))) in general everything)))

                  No, of course, but we must strive for this. There are other countries that have not imposed sanctions against us; we need to work with them, and produce critical goods at home, which is already being done. Another three or four years of such work, and we will be almost like the USSR, with a self-sufficient economy. IMHO
                  1. cariperpaint
                    cariperpaint 8 January 2018 20: 12
                    +1
                    it is impossible. neither physically nor generally nor how. no country in the world is self-sufficient right now, and it won’t.
      5. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 7 January 2018 17: 01
        +4
        No, no. To present an account to the EU and its leaders separately for loss from illegal European sanctions (no UN decision) for physical losses. For loss in image. Moral damage ..
      6. Amper
        Amper 7 January 2018 17: 13
        +8
        Right! "We" have thousands of accounts there, real estate, business, children, "homeland" !!!
        You need to understand .. and apologize! Crossed with a hangover!
        1. Nick
          Nick 8 January 2018 08: 06
          0
          Quote: Amper
          You need to understand .. and apologize! Crossed with a hangover!

          Politically reasoning, listen! But what about the wool and meat plan? hi
      7. antivirus
        antivirus 7 January 2018 17: 47
        0
        late my friend. all merged.
        tied several processes to SP2 and other energy projects.
        pinch Gazprom for the sake of other industries - this is a loss of face.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 7 January 2018 16: 54
      +5
      Are sanctions without the UN Security Council really legal? But something, we did not even appeal to the UN recommendation court against this lawlessness. It seems he is beneficial to someone. Or did the same Russian, the so-called "senator", not lobby for Russia's entry into the WTO?
    3. Maz
      Maz 7 January 2018 16: 59
      +3
      There are no rules for barbarians. Neither in politics nor in economics,
      1. Nick
        Nick 8 January 2018 00: 34
        0
        Quote: Maz
        There are no rules for barbarians. Neither in politics nor in economics,

        Well so, to live with wolves - howl like a wolf.
    4. weksha50
      weksha50 7 January 2018 16: 59
      +9
      Quote: Theodore
      Yes, exit the WTO! Business then!



      Hmm ... For 12 years, personally, Mr. GDP struggled precisely for entering it ... Well ... I entered it ... And to get out, like in a dog dump, you need to blow a stick on the ridge with a stick ... laughing

      PS And to score on all these awarded payments ... Something and what the US needs to learn from ... National interests should prevail over the interests of an "international civilized lol society "...
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 8 January 2018 01: 53
        0
        The United States has the strength and ability to score at all and at all. And we have?
        1. Nick
          Nick 8 January 2018 08: 12
          0
          Quote: Kent0001
          The United States has the strength and ability to score at all and at all.

          Too bold statement. The United States cannot even elect a president without our help. Little North Korea cannot be dealt with. In Syria, they got rid of it. It seems that the Americans have “dried up” shrunk lol hi
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    6. Joseph
      Joseph 7 January 2018 22: 54
      +4
      This is a question of principle and European arrogance, which must be stopped without waiting for the court.
      The impudence of the fascists of the USA and the fascists of the Jesuit countries of Germany crosses all borders. They are for the collapse of Ukraine, for the murder of Yanukovych and aggression after the collapse of the remaining territory against the independent countries of New Russia, I allocate: USA - 10.0 billion dollars. and deadly weapons, EU EU countries in Germany - 5,3 billion euros for the murder of children, women and the elderly of Donbass.
      These bloodthirsty are so impudent and mean that they have imposed sanctions on Russia, they are suing her for imposing retaliatory sanctions until 31.12.2020/31/12 (so far yes 2018/XNUMX/XNUMX) and do not buy rotten meat specially infected with Poles of any microflora , which no country in the world buys because it does not want its population to die from this infection, stuffed with anabolic steroids and heavy metals.
      More disgusting than these countries: the USA and Germany are not in the world.
      It is necessary to break all economic ties with them altogether and can really get out of VT \ O. Insolence of the highest degree. Pay for everything that they palm off on us, as a third-rate hungry country.
      Palms shit to your population. You have a pig, they will devour everything like pigs. No, to lift the sanctions, ask for forgiveness for the Donbass and their rudeness, they also file a lawsuit. We must pay them a lawsuit of ten billion for refusing to buy our products. And then where are you suing if we do not recognize any court of The Hague.
    7. Lexus
      Lexus 8 January 2018 00: 38
      +1
      [quote] [Yes, exit the WTO! Delov then! / Quote]
      Not at all! YOU ARE GOING TO THE WTO, WHERE THEY ARE USED FOR!
  2. 210ox
    210ox 7 January 2018 16: 10
    +8
    One had to think before joining the WTO and accepting obligations related to European "institutions" ..
    1. Going
      Going 7 January 2018 16: 18
      11
      Mirror lawsuits must be filed, otherwise we have a lot of lawyers, but there is little sense, there was a mistake about the WTO.
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 7 January 2018 16: 29
        +7
        Quote: Going
        Mirror lawsuits must be filed, otherwise we have a lot of lawyers, but there’s not much sense

        This is what you need to do, and not ...
        There are restrictions on the financial markets, our companies are banned. In this connection? Why such an inequality?
        ... cry at the level of "and what for us?" Calculate the losses of credit institutions and put forward a counterclaim.
        “There is no smoke without fire” - this is worth learning in the EU and the WTO.
      2. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 16: 51
        +4
        So one lawyer here already works as the prime minister and suits Putin.
      3. Amper
        Amper 7 January 2018 17: 15
        +3
        Suing a sheep with wolves ..
      4. sabakina
        sabakina 7 January 2018 17: 46
        +4
        I categorically agree, we have lawyers as street dogs, but there’s no one to think about. I’m completely silent about working ...
      5. Kent0001
        Kent0001 8 January 2018 01: 55
        +5
        Our lawyers are either mediocre and not educated, or serve not our interests. The story with the IOC and WADA to help you.
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 7 January 2018 16: 47
      16
      You can scold the WTO as much as you like, but this is a fairly developed structure in terms of organizing ongoing work. The supreme body is the Conference, which meets every two years. But there is also a general council, which is responsible for the current work of the organization, and specialized committees that monitor compliance with the principles of the WTO. Any sanctions are a violation of WTO principles. Maybe I missed something, but I don’t remember any meetings of the Conference on the review of Russia's appeals to violate its rights in this organization. And something is somehow not heard about the active position of our representatives in upholding the interests of the country.
      Very similar to the story with our athletes and sports committees. When silence is at least some guarantee for the gentlemen of officials that during the inspections very unsightly facts regarding themselves are not revealed.
      Mechanisms for upholding the interests of our country are in the WTO. But I just got the impression that our representatives do not use them.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 17: 05
        10
        But I got the impression that our authorities do not use anything at all, they earn loot and that's it.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 7 January 2018 17: 53
        +3
        Lesha, he said well! good I can't do that. repeat
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 7 January 2018 19: 18
          +3
          Greetings, Vyacheslav! Glad you liked the phrase, that's just sad it all. I have repeatedly said that the WTO is just a tool. It should work, and for this, the hands of the master should grow from the shoulders, and not from another place. But it turns out - they bought a hammer, put it in a place of honor in the apartment and show the guests. But the fact that they can still hammer in nails and earn money on this - does not reach.
      3. Kent0001
        Kent0001 8 January 2018 01: 56
        +1
        Here I am about the same.
  3. newcomer
    newcomer 7 January 2018 16: 12
    +8
    Yes, this is not just chaos. they sat on their heads, legs lowered. it's time to slowly leave the euro institutions.
    1. svp67
      svp67 7 January 2018 16: 16
      +2
      Quote: newbie
      Yes, this is not just chaos. they sat on their heads, legs lowered.

      And who allowed them that? Are they not such “senators”? Having billions, in violation of the requirements of the President, abroad and precisely in the territories of the EU countries. They simply are not profitable to do something for the benefit of Russia and to the detriment of the EU.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 7 January 2018 16: 26
        +9
        Well, for starters: I agree with you. but. do not blame everything on senators. Victor correctly noted below, we “waved” a lot and faithfully execute. and no one expects that it will be easy to get rid of the oligarchy. it is good that the west is no longer observing the shores. this gives us the right to dismiss what was once waved.
        1. svp67
          svp67 8 January 2018 05: 21
          +1
          Quote: newbie
          but. do not blame everything on senators

          All is not. But, as one of the structures of power, and they must answer for their inaction. And then someone will remind me how things are with Senator Kerimov? They put him absenteeism or on "vacation" consider?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 8 January 2018 09: 19
            0
            Rather, compensation will be given as a victim of European arbitrariness.
    2. Going
      Going 7 January 2018 16: 19
      +7
      We must do it as it is profitable for us, and not to fulfill in good faith everything that we have done in the 90s.
    3. Amper
      Amper 7 January 2018 17: 17
      +3
      I’ll tell everyone what this figurine has brought to the planet .. V.! Patsaki chatlanam sat on his head!
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  4. Irek
    Irek 7 January 2018 16: 13
    14
    Yavropa freaks out, they decided to break us ...
    1. Gnefredov
      Gnefredov 7 January 2018 16: 15
      +1
      Great photo hi
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 7 January 2018 16: 20
        +1
        Quote: Gnefredov
        Great photo

        to look at the mistress ... and whom he was going to feed, too.
        1. Gnefredov
          Gnefredov 7 January 2018 16: 26
          0
          What for?
          We have a wife, similarly. The children are already adults (to the question of whom to feed) and my wife is alone, you have nothing to look at her.
          1. kenig1
            kenig1 7 January 2018 17: 13
            +2
            You were asked about something, or is your wife giving cause for jealousy?
            1. Gnefredov
              Gnefredov 7 January 2018 18: 12
              0
              ... answered below.
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 7 January 2018 16: 40
      +5
      their sanctions are reflected in our prices. Why is gasoline and taxes rising? Why agricultural products of domestic producers are not cheaper than imported?
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 16: 53
        0
        Overlock, Merry Christmas! hi In flight, as usual, ordinary people, fat local cats are always in chocolate, however, as in the west.
        1. Amper
          Amper 7 January 2018 17: 20
          +2
          These are the natural goals of capitalism, for which the people of the 25let vote! Why grumble !?
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 7 January 2018 18: 42
            0
            why not grumble! It’s only left
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 7 January 2018 18: 41
          0
          Thanks, mutually !!!!! Tired of the lights of thought in our Duma. From them only harm
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 7 January 2018 18: 05
      +2
      Please tell me the address of the basement, otherwise my mouse has already hung up. wink
  5. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 7 January 2018 16: 14
    +2
    Here again, the magical transformation of urine in the eyes of the bourgeoisie! How does this homophobic party manage to take cynicism instead of vitamins! am
  6. Tusv
    Tusv 7 January 2018 16: 14
    +1
    What are the problems? Counterclaims. Why is the EU so concerned about our resources? In the sense of their safety. We need to shout. Well, they don’t want a freebie, so in three ways
    1. Going
      Going 7 January 2018 16: 20
      +2
      I think the butt will be serious, we still do not know much, SP 2 needs to be done.
  7. Strashila
    Strashila 7 January 2018 16: 15
    +1
    It’s a daredevil, the beginning ... get ready, they’ll roll it out for foie gras.
  8. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 7 January 2018 16: 17
    +5
    Quote: 210ox
    I had to think before joining the WTO

    If something bad can be done for Russia, then our president and prime minister did it. And they will continue to do.
  9. Baloo
    Baloo 7 January 2018 16: 18
    +9
    We must follow the path of the Americans. They are interested in national interest, they do not recognize all international courts. If the court recognizes this claim lawful, in my opinion, it acts illegally. This court decision cannot be executed to the detriment of the Russian economy,
    concluded Jabarov.
    Russia imposed a ban on pork imports in 2014 after an outbreak of African swine fever was recorded in Poland and Lithuania. Pork was later included in the food embargo imposed by Moscow in response to Western sanctions.

    And why do we need pork?
    I don’t know how where, but on the Volga river, 800 km from Moscow, it simply fell into pieces, it costs (from 250 to 320 per kg) no more than a turkey fillet (300-320 per kg.). Beef, lamb, rabbit, ostrich and horse meat are more expensive.
    I support the pork embargo, let's think about our national interests. Do we really need the WTO? At all times, Russia has been a self-sufficient state. What we do not have that we could not create on our own or extract from the bowels? hi
  10. Masya masya
    Masya masya 7 January 2018 16: 22
    +5
    In this connection?

    Yes, swine flu !!! Eat yourself! wink what's wrong with excuses recourse just ask, we will distribute to you ... lol
  11. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 7 January 2018 16: 22
    +3
    Joining the WTO was a big mistake.
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 16: 54
      +4
      The current government made these mistakes “a carriage and a small cart”. These are not the last mistakes.
    2. Amper
      Amper 7 January 2018 17: 22
      0
      Who signed it? The author on the pitchfork !?
    3. Karabin
      Karabin 7 January 2018 17: 51
      +3
      Quote: Laksamana Besar
      was a big mistake.

      Each error has a full name.
  12. Doubting
    Doubting 7 January 2018 16: 23
    +8
    I just do not understand the meaning of these food anti-sanctions Putin.
    In principle, the Russians were punished, now the EU will also punish us, all these fines, because the authorities will not pay from their own pockets.
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 7 January 2018 16: 26
      +3
      Beat your own so that strangers are afraid. laughing
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 7 January 2018 17: 23
      +2
      Quote: Doubting
      I just do not understand the meaning of these food anti-sanctions Putin.
      In principle, the Russians were punished, now the EU will also punish us, all these fines, because the authorities will not pay from their own pockets.

      It’s enough pork.
      In addition, swine flu is dangerous for humans. In our 70s therapy books, he was mentioned.
      Masya Masya Today, 16:22
      In this connection?
      Yes, swine flu !!! Eat yourself! wink what with excuses tight? recourse just ask us, we will distribute ...
  13. onix757
    onix757 7 January 2018 16: 27
    +1
    Unfortunately, the world will not hear the opinion of our senator, because the world does not care for the miserable excuses of Russia. And yes, the mechanism for exiting the WTO does not exist in nature.
  14. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 7 January 2018 16: 28
    +2
    already sent the European Union's claim to the arbitration court.



    Euro of what? ..
    Correctors do not sleep ..
    1. Gnefredov
      Gnefredov 7 January 2018 16: 37
      +1
      European Union ... as Freud lol
  15. Prisoner
    Prisoner 7 January 2018 16: 31
    +3
    The ban to remove, local wholesalers, both small and large, to warn that the places in Kolyma are beautiful and there are many fish. wink Well, the Sanitary Inspection should be aimed at impeccable sovereign service with a detailed description of prospects, if, contrary to expectations, there will be reproaches. lol
  16. VAGNER
    VAGNER 7 January 2018 16: 31
    +7
    Oh Russia, you are constantly bred for money ... (under various pretexts)))
    1. private person
      private person 7 January 2018 16: 57
      +4
      It’s not Russia that bred us, but ordinary Russians, they came up with the buzzword of sanctions and robbed under their pretext. Well, what is there no money but you hold on.
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  17. Herculesic
    Herculesic 7 January 2018 16: 31
    +2
    We need to demand the same amount from them, for the same reason, that is, from this day Russia must act in a mirror-received claim against us, rewrite it by changing the addressee, and put forward the same claims to the European Union!
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 16: 55
      +4
      The power in Russia is not able to act, all the more mirror.
  18. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 7 January 2018 16: 32
    +7
    Yes, in general, it is high time to pass the Constitutional Law recognizing the validity of decisions of only Russian courts. if necessary, any decision of international courts can be duplicated by one and all
  19. Overlock
    Overlock 7 January 2018 16: 32
    +6
    They chose shame, now we get shame and war (as long as the trade). No one respects the weak. Dali slack - get and write
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 7 January 2018 16: 44
      +8
      Quote: Overlock
      They chose shame - now we get shame and war (while the trade)

      Well, here's what you bullshit? What war is in the pit? There were such claims - not to count, starting with Legs and ending with Khodorkovsky friends ...
      And where are those suits? That's right ... where they should be.
      Learn, panimayte, one sentence of four words, and come on marry her shove it where necessary and not necessary ...
      Cammen tanters negative
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 16: 57
        +1
        But not on salary wink By the way Golovan, what about the decisions of the ECHR in recent cases? wink
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 7 January 2018 17: 01
          +5
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          What about the ECtHR judgments in recent cases?

          Oh Octopus! laughing
          Is Internet bad? I can help, but I don’t understand in any way - what are the “last” ones?
          By the way, the Russian Federation seems to have left the ECHR, no? wink
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 17: 06
            +1
            Internet is good, Internet is bad wink And the last ones are for 2017. Klava in hands and google go ahead!
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 7 January 2018 17: 08
              +5
              If
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              Internet is good

              that is:
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              Klava in hands and google go ahead!

              Act, report on the results yes
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 17: 12
                +5
                I report: we will have paid and will pay, because the authorities cannot do anything.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 7 January 2018 17: 13
                  +5
                  Quote: andrej-shironov
                  I report ...

                  Sit down... TWO laughing
                  Khulturscheg request
                  1. andrej-shironov
                    andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 17: 15
                    +3
                    You can get and standing count wink
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 7 January 2018 18: 48
        +6
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Well, here's what you bullshit? What war is in the pit? There were such claims - not to count, starting with Legs and ending with Khodorkovsky friends ...

        why nonsense? "Foot" and Khodorkovsky's friends are private individuals / companies against the state of Russia.
        In this case, there is a lawsuit of the EU states against the state of Russia. These are two big differences. I dare say, recently the US state arrested the money of the state of Kazakhstan somewhere around 23 billion S /
        So this is not nonsense!
        By the way, most recently, the state of Russia lost the case with WADA and paid 15 million eureka
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 00: 16
          +4
          Quote: Overlock
          recently, the state of Russia lost the case with WADA

          Really "business"? And in what court?
          Quote: Overlock
          ... and paid 15 million eureka ...

          Russia ... paid ... well, okay request
          Firstly, it didn’t pay. On December 28.12.2017, XNUMX there was information from Zhukov that "negotiations are ongoing." Then silence.
          Quote: Overlock
          These are two big differences.

          What is the difference, at least one, do not explain?
          Quote: Overlock
          recently the state of the USA has arrested the money of the state of Kazakhstan

          So what?
          I do not understand request
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 8 January 2018 01: 39
            +5
            lost, recognized the actions of WADA. apologized and paid a fine. Is this not enough?
            There is a difference of courts between individuals and legal entities. Behind the states are armies of lawyers, unlimited financing, political will, and the engagement of the courts. Such claims are more often considered in the light of political motives.
            The arrest of money in Kazakhstan showed that, in principle, the United States can painlessly arrest the money of any state, and this state can blow bubbles. The tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it, a lesson for good fellows.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 01: 54
              +4
              Quote: Overlock
              Is not that enough?

              And not enough, and not so, actually ... but - too lazy to butt on this topic.
              Let it be that you are right.
              Quote: Overlock
              army of lawyers, unlimited funding, political will, court engagement

              I’m trying to assert that all this was present in both the Nogi case and (especially) the Khodorkovsky shareholders case. Just because there and there were very significant amounts at stake, and we all know well that the partner state, which is not opposed to slightly bend the Russian Federation.
              Did it help? As you can see, not very. And then it won’t help, IMHO.
              Quote: Overlock
              The seizure of Kazakhstan's money showed that, in principle, the United States can seize money painlessly any state

              Roughly the same as "a cat caught a mouse ... which means, in principle, it can catch a dog too (mine, for example ... GYYY laughing )"
              In short - all this is wobbling on the water. And about nothing yes
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 7 January 2018 17: 27
      +3
      Quote: Overlock
      Chosen shame - now we get shame and war

      What's the shame? Wars against Russia have been cold and hot throughout its history, especially the last hundred years.
      Nobody respects the weak.
      Etto for sure. Russia seeks to build good-neighborly mutually beneficial economic relations. The Fashington macaques are getting in our way. Should we bend under these hegemons of evil? angry
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        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 7 January 2018 19: 58
          +5
          Quote: Esoteric
          Read the CRF and think

          We look ... and what we see:
          Let us honestly answer the question: "If a country, having lost the geopolitical confrontation, has lost almost half of its territory suitable for human habitation, does it have territorial sovereignty?" The answer is quite obvious

          For this they beat with candlesticks.
          The country that lost is the USSR.
          The USSR no longer exists.
          At the same time, the "loss of territories" is attributed to the Russian Federation, and on the basis of this it is proposed to "think about sovereignty."
          Those who want to read this nonsense - flag in hand yes
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  20. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 7 January 2018 16: 35
    0
    Quote: onix757
    Unfortunately, the world will not hear the opinion of our senator, because the world does not care for the miserable excuses of Russia. And yes, the mechanism for exiting the WTO does not exist in nature.

    In nature it may not, but in mine shafts and on carriers, quite to itself, weighty arguments take place.
    1. onix757
      onix757 7 January 2018 16: 39
      +6
      In nature it may not, but in mine shafts and on carriers, quite to itself, weighty arguments take place.
      Mine shafts do not play a role in the case when the elite of the country is there with soul and goods. This factor is significant only for independent countries.
  21. Overlock
    Overlock 7 January 2018 16: 36
    +2
    Quote: 210ox
    I won't be surprised if we pay ..

    this is our power can. 15 million EUREC WADA, now the EU. People's money, not Medvedev
    1. onix757
      onix757 7 January 2018 16: 41
      +1
      We did not join the WTO in order to score on the opinion of this "authoritative" organization for our government.
  22. Overlock
    Overlock 7 January 2018 16: 38
    0
    Quote: Going
    but Europe must be put in its place.

    is this how you plan? Retaliatory sanctions?
  23. vodkinmotors1
    vodkinmotors1 7 January 2018 16: 40
    +5
    What kind of woodpecker put the Russian Federation into the WTO? hi
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 7 January 2018 17: 24
      +3
      Quote: vodkinmotors1
      What kind of woodpecker put the Russian Federation into the WTO?


      I am ashamed to answer ... MY dearly beloved and respected (no kidding) President ... And this is why I gnaw at him so much in my kitchen - it is, from year to year, from day to day, precisely for Russia's entry into the WTO. .. And after all so many years and funds spent on this adventure ... recourse
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 7 January 2018 17: 56
        +1
        Quote: weksha50
        And that's why I gnaw it so in my kitchen

        I hesitate to ask ... Is it made of chocolate or carrots?
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 7 January 2018 17: 58
          +2
          Quote: Karabin
          I hesitate to ask ... Is it made of chocolate or carrots?


          I am ashamed to answer ... Over the years, I have not understood what kind of material ... hi
          PS Like most of the country's population ...
          1. Karabin
            Karabin 7 January 2018 18: 04
            +2
            Quote: weksha50
            For all these years - I did not understand what kind of material ...
            PS Like most of the country's population ..

            You will spit when you understand hi
            1. weksha50
              weksha50 7 January 2018 18: 07
              +1
              Quote: Karabin
              You will spit when you understand


              HY !!! The Russian people - nothing to defeat and nothing to surprise !!!
              PS And - don't scare ...
              1. Karabin
                Karabin 7 January 2018 18: 11
                +2
                Quote: weksha50
                PS And - don't scare ...

                It's hard to scare, but it's easy to deceive
      2. onix757
        onix757 7 January 2018 17: 58
        +5
        stop This surname is too well known to be called)))
    2. loginovich
      loginovich 7 January 2018 18: 34
      +4
      This woodpecker is not alone
      FOR - 238 people (52,9%)
      AGAINST - 208 people. (46,2%)
      ABSTAINED - 1 person (0,2%)
      VOTED - 447 people (99,33%)
      DO NOT VOTE - 3 people (0,7%)
      "United Russia":
      FOR - 235 people
      AGAINST - 0 people.
      ABSTAINED - 1 person
      VOTE - 236 people
      DO NOT VOTE - 1 person
      Total members - 237 people.
      For objectivity, the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party did not give a single vote
      More details: https://friend.livejournal.com/203070.html
  24. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 7 January 2018 16: 43
    0
    Quote: VAGNER
    Oh Russia, you are constantly bred for money ... (under various pretexts)))


    You know, we, too, are “not born together.” Money, speak? And what is money? I need room. From the Siberian plains to the Crimean steppes. Here, try to buy it ... for the money.
    1. onix757
      onix757 7 January 2018 16: 49
      +1
      Resources from these open spaces quite have a price, which, by the way, is not dictated by us.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 7 January 2018 17: 57
      +2
      Quote: Gnefredov
      we, too, are “not sewn together.”

      Sometimes it seems that it is to them, the bastard.
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 7 January 2018 19: 56
        +5
        And what else can be sewn colonial system?

        You can’t even explain why the American military are still in Syria, not without whose participation attacks on our military bases are taking place ... Let them remember about the WTO when the sanctions are lifted ... You just have to get out of it, just like PACE. yes
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 7 January 2018 22: 50
          +3
          and why such stupid agitation? !!!!
  25. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 7 January 2018 16: 48
    +3
    Well, what did our senators want? When did everyone draw more hands for, when did the current government drive Russia into the WTO on deliberately enslaving conditions? Now we get the full program for the wort.
  26. Wolka
    Wolka 7 January 2018 16: 48
    +2
    and who are the judges, and in general force majeure, however, is present ... maybe we can also quickly get out of this stinking WTO
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 January 2018 22: 47
      0
      Quote: Volka
      and in general force majeure however is present ...

      if they prove that ASF is an excuse and it is forbidden to import it in countries, then there aren’t any force majors
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    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 January 2018 22: 46
      +1
      So what's next?!
      we signed under the WTO rules if the court loses cadres will not help
  28. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 7 January 2018 16: 56
    +1
    Quote: onix757
    Unfortunately, the world will not hear the opinion of our senator, because the world does not care for the miserable excuses of Russia. And yes, the mechanism for exiting the WTO does not exist in nature.

    Bullshit! There is always a way out - there would be a will!
    1. onix757
      onix757 7 January 2018 17: 19
      +1
      Of course have!!!! Forgive them everything! But this is impossible in real realities.
  29. Rusland
    Rusland 7 January 2018 16: 59
    +8
    Send to the WTO a portrait of a large FIG in a pig’s frame.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 7 January 2018 18: 11
      +3
      Send to the WTO a portrait of a large FIG in a pig’s frame.
      Better to the Kremlin, which wanted to be in the WTO.
  30. bald
    bald 7 January 2018 17: 05
    +2
    Send them in Russian - their arrogance is not a chapel. And if served in The Hague - and fuck her. The whole West is rotten and dishonored. What are we here unable to stand up for ourselves !!! When they don’t understand and threaten - why do we have weapons ?!
  31. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 7 January 2018 17: 07
    +1
    Quote: onix757
    In nature it may not, but in mine shafts and on carriers, quite to itself, weighty arguments take place.
    Mine shafts do not play a role in the case when the elite of the country is there with soul and goods. This factor is significant only for independent countries.


    If you follow your logic, all that remains is to “glue the fins”. Where did such a decadent mood come from? Shoigu, what, Grachev? Putin, - Gorbachev?
    "Elite" ... as they put it, it’s built. The fish rots from the head, and with the head everything is in order with us. The head is normal, the body remains to be cured. The process will be lengthy and there will be many dissatisfied.

    That's something like that buddy. I understand your doubts, share and also “keep my ears up”. But not so bad. If you need to @ beat, do it @ bn. I really like the spirit of our military officers. They don’t give a damn about the “elite”. laughing
    1. onix757
      onix757 7 January 2018 17: 27
      +5
      If you follow your logic, all that remains is to “glue the fins”. Where did such a decadent mood come from? Shoigu, what, Grachev? Putin, - Gorbachev?

      The Flippers are on the doorstep. Comprador capitalism first of all thinks about personal welfare, and if something threatens this, the bourgeoisie will surrender and sell it three times, so as not to lose the stolen goods.
      "Elite" ... as they put it, it’s built. The fish rots from the head, and with the head everything is in order with us. The head is normal, the body remains to be cured. The process will be lengthy and there will be many dissatisfied.

      With the head the main problem. What a head, such and influence in the world.
      1. Gnefredov
        Gnefredov 7 January 2018 17: 36
        0
        Time will judge. Come on, everyone to do their own thing. If we don’t do this, in about a hundred years, we’ll be called the goats.

        UPD. And I don’t want to spin in a coffin, as a fan.
        1. onix757
          onix757 7 January 2018 17: 42
          +1
          Nice to talk with an adequate person
          1. Gnefredov
            Gnefredov 8 January 2018 00: 56
            +1
            Me too, but it’s worth a lot. hi
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 7 January 2018 18: 13
          +4
          Time will judge.
          And debt will time be judged? For 17 years of this time, they came to koleizurengoy, partisans at the Olympics, now the WTO commands Russia. And you all believe in miracles.
          1. Gnefredov
            Gnefredov 7 January 2018 18: 35
            0
            Yes, I do not believe in miracles, I do them. Moreover, every day. I create (good, time is now - heaps). I share my experience with young people, and much more. Here sometimes I drop in to “IN” to answer you drinks
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 7 January 2018 17: 59
      +2
      Quote: Gnefredov
      Putin, - Gorbachev?

      Not. He simply entered this WTO.
      1. Gnefredov
        Gnefredov 7 January 2018 18: 25
        +3
        Putin You are deeply mistaken. The history of Russia's entry into the WTO is o-very long (and clumsy). This topic was first raised by Gorbachev in return for some well-known buns. Yeltsin (more precisely, the Gaidar “gavniks”) supported the topic, but in the 90s Russia did not need the WTO, but at the tipping point (IMF) the IMF had already begun to sense that the market could be lost. That is why Russia entered the WTO, but what did you want? 2001 - 2004 years to remind? No money left. There is no state. From Chechnya only began to come to their senses. "Kursk" we drowned ... Kick-ass - drove him ashes. We had no options but to agree.

        Listen, if you have a more robust idea, please make it public. For example, I am interested in hearing your version.

        Pokeshsya is good only to the peasant, which is in the photo on the right (below) and to the one on the left, only the saxophone remains ... I won’t specify in what place.
  32. andron-30
    andron-30 7 January 2018 17: 10
    +2
    it’s not enough to get out of the WTO; you don’t need to buy goods from countries and we will be sanctioned, well, this is absurd, in my opinion you need to hold on tightly to your family, friends, homeland, peace to your home, merry Christmas to the laity
  33. serge siberian
    serge siberian 7 January 2018 17: 13
    +1
    Yes, hot heads, for their own blessings, I don’t want to get out of this well ..., sorry organization, they will pretend that the benefits for our country will be more in it. And the benefits will be for alligarhat’s big wallets. explanation of reasons and payment of fees. soldier stop
  34. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 7 January 2018 17: 15
    +2
    Wanted in the WTO? Is it smeared with honey there? Get it! It is necessary to tick from there and leave rotting rot ... And think about national interests!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 7 January 2018 19: 01
      0
      Imagine - plastered, trading on foreign markets is easier.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 January 2018 22: 44
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        Imagine - plastered, trading on foreign markets is easier.

        yeah ?? !!!
        and to whom ?!
        this was already before the revolution of 17 years, in the country there was nothing to eat for the majority;
        we have half the country without gas, almost the whole village is wood-burning, for which we drown Europe
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 7 January 2018 23: 00
          +5
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          we have half the country without gas

          Which one?

          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          for that we drown Europe

          * but - together
          And for the fact that we drown the whole of Europe (well, by the way ... well, okay) we have up to 30% of the budget revenue belay
          This is among other tasty buns.
          Poorly? wink
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 7 January 2018 23: 10
            +2
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            (drive, by the way ... well, okay)

            you flood?
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            we have up to 30% of the revenue side of the budget

            chop wood for you, and before you cut it, I'll see how you feel about 30 percent
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Which one?

            and why is this stupid? !!
            like in Moscow there is no gas for the rest? !!!
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            but - together

            still have arguments? !!!
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 7 January 2018 23: 33
              +6
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              you flood?

              Nah ... We do not drown "the whole of Europe", and even "half of Europe" do not drown. Therefore - it’s just chasing.
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              chop wood for you, and before you cut it, I'll see how you feel about 30 percent

              And sawed, and pricked ... everything happened.
              And with these 30%, in particular, the army is fed.
              Without which you don’t need to cut firewood at all (well, dead people don’t need firewood ...).
              So clearer?
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              and why is this stupid? !!

              This is not stupid. This is a clarifying question and, at the same time, a reminder of the need to monitor a broom what you write.
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              still have arguments? !!!

              Yes, as many as you like laughing
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 08: 56
                +1
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Nah ... We do not drown "the whole of Europe", and even "half of Europe" do not drown. Therefore - it’s just chasing.

                a total of 40 percent, some countries 100 and what are some of these some times the most shit Russia and watered, then what ?!
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                And with these 30%, in particular, the army is fed.

                So maybe domestic consumption will give growth, including industry
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 09: 01
                  +4
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  a total of 40 percent

                  And again by ...
                  Deputy Energy Minister Anatoly Yanovsky at a conference of the Russian Gas Society in Berlin said that 150 billion cubic meters of gas were exported from Russia to the European Union. m of gas. The share of Russian gas in Europe is about 31%

                  I knew this, you do not. Yes, here is the reference ...

                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  So maybe domestic consumption will give growth, including industry

                  So ... Kotonosov Detected ...
                  I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm leaving ...
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 12: 13
                    0
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    And again by ...

                    The Russian gas holding Gazprom supplies about 40% of the gas consumed in Europe. At the end of 2017, the company's exports to European countries grew by 8,1% - up to 193,9 billion cubic meters, reports the Financial Times.
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    I knew this, you do not. Yes, here is the reference ...

                    if you still looked at the dates of your links
              2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 08: 57
                0
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                watch out for the broom

                watch your not in the gateway
          2. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 10: 21
            +1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            we have half the country without gas

            Which one?

            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            for that we drown Europe

            * but - together
            And for the fact that we drown the whole of Europe (well, by the way ... well, okay) we have up to 30% of the budget revenue belay
            This is among other tasty buns.
            Poorly? wink

            These snacks in the bulk receive the oligarchs and not the people of Russia. This is golovan your chase wink
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 8 January 2018 10: 27
              +4
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              These snacks in the bulk get oligarchs and not the people of Russia

              You, apparently, did not quite understand what was being discussed.
              For some reason I'm not surprised request
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              This is a head ...

              Golovan Jack, with your permission.
              This is a nickname, and distort it is bad manners.
              Do you know what a bad man is? Let me tell you: to the "mov", which is on the outskirts, this concept has no relation laughing
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              ... your drive

              Not yours, but yours. Get used to talking right yes
              Better to drive than to be driven (C) wassat
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          3. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 12: 52
            0
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            And also for drowning the entire Europe (chasing, by the way ... well, okay)

            and you my friend a sharpie
            didn’t pay attention right away
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            we have half the country without gas, almost the whole village is wood-burning, for which we drown Europe

            Well, where is everything about everything here? !!!!
            1. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 18: 01
              0
              He is not a sharpie, he is just a troll on a salary.
  35. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 7 January 2018 17: 17
    +1
    Quote: onix757
    Resources from these open spaces quite have a price, which, by the way, is not dictated by us.

    That's right. That's what would not dictate the price, for this we live. Therefore, the defense budget is inflated to impossible.
    We have one planet, but capitalism is not saturated. They will devour everything, both Africa and Antarctica. But Russia will not be eaten.
    1. onix757
      onix757 7 January 2018 17: 39
      +1
      The budget is good, but in fact, 50-60 percent of the “gifts” of the Strategic Missile Forces come from the USSR. About the prospects of the fleet on the site, there were also articles repeatedly .. we’ll say bluntly. This generally applies to everything from the Boomerang (which would have been replaced by the Union under the Union) to the Syaz
      1. Gnefredov
        Gnefredov 7 January 2018 18: 09
        +3
        Do not upset me with the fleet, .. although I am from aviation (and many flyers still fly on my electronics), but here is an old friend from Leningrad who told me a lot about “ship problems”. Hmm, against his background, our aviation "troubles" seemed like toys. But again, they sat down, reasoned, then realized that we were talking about industry issues. And if the industry exists, then it is alive! For the first time, twenty years later, I began to speak my usual language.
        Yes. We were defeated. The efforts of three generations under the tail of the dog lowered. There is no reason to hang myself, but I don’t see it, because a new generation of engineers and engineers is growing, more predatory and smarter than we were at one time. They will also “wind up their tails” to the shining “fellow partners”. So everything is not so bad and "for the future" and we, we, are consumables. smile
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  38. Simon
    Simon 7 January 2018 17: 31
    +2
    Let Europe eat its pork, and we will produce our own! tongue
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 January 2018 22: 41
      0
      Quote: Simon
      and we will produce our

      Excuse me, will you personally? !!!
      produce little, you need something else to buy
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 8 January 2018 01: 30
        0
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Excuse me, will you personally? !!!
        produce little, you need something else to buy

        But if we don’t need pork - why also drag European pork to Russia?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 08: 57
          0
          Quote: KaPToC
          But if we don’t need pork - why also drag European pork to Russia?

          What did you mean?!
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 8 January 2018 13: 39
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            What did you mean?!

            That's what
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            produce little, you need something else to buy

            But if they don’t buy it, why should Europeans drag us to us?
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 14: 55
              0
              Quote: KaPToC
              But if they don’t buy it, why should Europeans drag us to us?

              the main task is not to produce, but to sell
              our problem is that we will never be able to compete with Europeans at prices
  39. Simon
    Simon 7 January 2018 17: 32
    +3
    Quote: Hurricane70
    Wanted in the WTO? Is it smeared with honey there? Get it! It is necessary to tick from there and leave rotting rot ... And think about national interests!

    One hundred percent, I support you! good
  40. Bypassed
    Bypassed 7 January 2018 17: 38
    +3
    If Mr. Brzezinski’s words about the Russian elite are correct, then they will pay, since they have forgiven $ 140 billion of debts as well, without asking their pensioners for their opinion. And in general, talk about some kind of self-sustaining policy of the country. Which her central bank is a branch of the Fed is somehow ridiculous.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 7 January 2018 19: 06
      +4
      Are pensioners here at all?
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 10: 23
        0
        And you did not know that pensioners are also the people of Russia? wink
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 January 2018 10: 36
          0
          Everyone has a different opinion and among pensioners, too.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 10: 44
            0
            The opinion may be different, but everyone receives a pension from the budget.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 8 January 2018 15: 43
              0
              Of this money, even if miraculously repaying debts, pensions will not be subsidized.
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 18: 04
                0
                That's exactly what they will not, but it would be necessary! It is ridiculous to see how the government, adding 300-500 rubles to a pension, is immediately taken away by 1500-2000 by an increase in taxes, tariffs, prices, etc.
  41. lopvlad
    lopvlad 7 January 2018 17: 39
    +3
    How did you like it? They hung the WTO yoke around their neck, limiting themselves and their range of Russian products for marketing in Europe, and now they have ached ..
  42. Oleg Jacket
    Oleg Jacket 7 January 2018 17: 44
    0
    Quote: private person
    Thrall Today, 16: 29 ↑ New
    Let the EU feed the refugees with its pork.
    You were joking. I would see what would happen to the EU if at the refugee accommodation centers they began to feed pork stew and sandwiches with lard.

    in SA fat ate everything and did not steam
  43. Karabin
    Karabin 7 January 2018 17: 44
    +7
    So far, what the EU says is chaos. ..
    said Jabarov.

    Mayhem, Senator Dzhabarov, when you, like your colleague Kerimov, will squeeze something on the Cote d'Azur or in London. And here is a mere trifle. 1,39 lard. Ugh. a springboard in Sochi is even more expensive. Easy to pay out of the state budget.
    Does it make sense to be in the WTO and what does participation in this organization give us?
    And why didn’t such a question arise in the year 12, when you and Putin and other edrosny climbed into the WTO, deliberately giving away part of the country's economic sovereignty?
    We must follow the path of the Americans.
    Shurik, this is not our method (C) wink
  44. Awaz
    Awaz 7 January 2018 17: 52
    +2
    There is still not a simple topic. However, the country, as it were, did not pull with the entry into the WTO, it was completely unprepared for this. There are no solid lawyers of their own or other specialists who would defend the rights of Russian manufacturers and defend the interests of Russia in the WTO.
    And where was ETot Zhabarov when sanctions were imposed against the Russian Federation, violating all possible norms of the same WTO? He sat and was silent in the tube, just like everyone else. Right now stupidly indignant and agree. In the EU, they’re not fools, they don’t want to withdraw money directly, they will quietly pull this money by raising customs duties. And the Russian authorities have nothing to answer. This senator, who is not smart, can do nothing except to be indignant. So what for these are needed.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 7 January 2018 18: 15
      +1
      And where was ETot Zhabarov when sanctions were introduced against the Russian Federation
      Wait, the elections all at once became patriots. It’s just become fashionable to work on a hairdryer.
  45. next322
    next322 7 January 2018 17: 55
    +8
    the whole response of Russia to the EU, as always, will end with a plaintive bleating of such senators in some kind of TV show, and no more ... They will increase taxes and scrap the indicated amount, and will apologize to respected partners from the EU for another month
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 7 January 2018 19: 08
      +1
      Previously, they didn’t pay for any lawsuits - but then we’ll suddenly pay.
      1. Rusland
        Rusland 7 January 2018 20: 20
        +8
        How many grunts can be raised with this money and build houses for them with all amenities.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 January 2018 00: 30
          0
          Agricultural holdings are engaged in this - pork in 2017 produced more than 3,5 million tons higher than in the RSFSR in 1990.
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 January 2018 22: 40
        +1
        if we lose the court, then they simply take away the property, the same gas
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 8 January 2018 01: 32
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          if we lose the court, then they simply take away the property, the same gas

          They cannot take gas - they simply stop supplying it. Russia also has a lot of foreign property that can be taken away.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 08: 58
            0
            Quote: KaPToC
            They cannot take gas - they simply stop supplying it

            take away real estate
            Quote: KaPToC
            Russia also has a lot of foreign property that can be taken away.

            based?!!!
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 8 January 2018 13: 30
              0
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              based?!!!

              Based on weaning, this is enough
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 13: 37
                0
                Quote: KaPToC
                Based on weaning, this is enough

                according to this logic, if the policeman sentenced you to a fine, you should go and rob his apartment
                1. KaPToC
                  KaPToC 8 January 2018 13: 40
                  0
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  according to this logic, if the policeman sentenced you to a fine, you should go and rob his apartment

                  However, neither the EU nor the United States or the WTO is a traffic cop, they have no right to write fines to us. And the GAI officer still needs to justify his fine.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 15: 26
                    0
                    Quote: KaPToC
                    And the GAI officer still needs to justify his fine.

                    already substantiated
                    Quote: KaPToC
                    However, neither the EU nor the United States or the WTO is not a traffic cop

                    quite
                    1. KaPToC
                      KaPToC 8 January 2018 16: 20
                      +1
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      already substantiated

                      They justified in their legal field, but should in our legal field.
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 8 January 2018 17: 58
                        0
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        They justified in their legal field, but should in our legal field.

                        the problem is that WE entered, moreover, voluntarily, in their legal field
      3. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 10: 25
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        Previously, they didn’t pay for any lawsuits - but then we’ll suddenly pay.

        Come on! On the Internet you will find almost everything on claims paid by Russia.
  46. Oleg Andreev
    Oleg Andreev 7 January 2018 17: 57
    +3
    WTO, WADA and only one noble indignation! Maybe it’s time to stop being a kitty with bows among yard kittens?
  47. Doliva63
    Doliva63 7 January 2018 18: 10
    +8
    The Russian senator does not consider the presence of homeless people, homeless drug addicts in the country "lawlessness"? I consider “outrageous” the presence of such “senators” in the country. Ugh, damn it!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 7 January 2018 18: 57
      +1
      This is all abundantly in other countries, in Russia with this, far, not the worst option.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 7 January 2018 19: 10
        +6
        That is, let them be? Probably, you have a daughter - a prostitute, so you come up with the foundation - in other countries, too! When did you last make friends with your head?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 January 2018 00: 53
          0
          I don’t have children, but these are universal problems and everyone who cares doesn’t care about them, but you aren’t in person, you don’t have enough strength, impulsive attacks are all your strength.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 10: 28
            0
            Vadim, have children already! Immediately the eyes on many things will open! Children to raise and educate is not clav matzah and play binary options! You are all such a successful entrepreneur - responsible, honest, proactive, do cards for you and make and provide your children wink
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 8 January 2018 10: 46
              0
              What things? Children are not yet to have children, since they have to spend some time traveling - that’s when I take all the control over my business onto a tablet and finish some development work - then that’s all.
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 11: 00
                +1
                Vadim is afraid to disappoint you, but with such motivation you will never have children. Alas, that is how the history of my observations of people of a warehouse similar to you shows.
                And things immediately startling are revealed: how the president and the government use populism and allegedly try to solve the problems of families with children, and how families try to earn money from families and children, from bankers to the healthcare system, in a word, how false are all the populist statements of our government .
  48. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 7 January 2018 18: 14
    +1
    Quote: vodkinmotors1
    What kind of woodpecker put the Russian Federation into the WTO? hi


    Yeltsin.
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 8 January 2018 10: 29
      0
      Oh oh Information is on the net.
  49. loginovich
    loginovich 7 January 2018 18: 16
    0
    We must follow the path of the Americans. They are interested in national interest, they do not recognize all international courts. If the court recognizes this claim lawful, in my opinion, it acts illegally. This court decision cannot be executed to the detriment of the Russian economy,
    concluded Jabarov.

    Of course it’s necessary. But it seems to me that the managers of the Russian Federation will go their own special way, only they understand it — they will reward those guilty of infringing on the interests of the Russian Federation, namely, those guilty of joining the WTO. And that is, they will reward their loved ones.
  50. Gardamir
    Gardamir 7 January 2018 18: 17
    +1
    Everyone is outraged by the WTO. Is there a president, head of government, or a foreign minister in Russia?
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 7 January 2018 18: 27
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      Is there a president, head of government, or a foreign minister in Russia?

      Why did you ask this?
      Quote: Gardamir
      Everyone is outraged by the WTO

      Not all.
      Here is a cat next to me ... and is not indignant belay
      And I know such people (s):
      An ostrich has more eyes than a brain - And I know such people ...
      A starfish doesn't have a brain at all - I also know such people ...
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 7 January 2018 19: 51
        0
        Why did you ask this?
        tongue tongue tongue