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US intelligence was unable to properly assess the determination of the DPRK leader

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The American intelligence community considers the inability to accurately predict the successful implementation of the DPRK missile and nuclear programs, as well as correctly assess the purposefulness of its leader Kim Jong-un, as one of its biggest failures, the New York Times newspaper reported.




The publication came to this conclusion after a survey of a number of former and current employees of the CIA and other special services.

The newspaper interlocutors admitted that at the beginning of Donald Trump’s presidency, “intelligence in vain soothed him, claiming that Washington had at least four years left to slow down or stop Pyongyang’s development of a missile capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to the United States.

"In 2016, the DPRK tested eight medium-range missiles, of which seven exploded at the launch site or collapsed in flight," the publication quotes. TASS.

According to him, American intelligence made the wrong conclusion from this, “linking the DPRK's failures to sabotage measures undertaken with the sanction of 44 President Barack Obama”. Five underground nuclear tests in the DPRK also did not convince the US intelligence services, "who continued to believe that this country would need another few years to create a hydrogen bomb," the newspaper added.

Today, former and current employees of the CIA and other intelligence agencies admit that their inability to anticipate the rapid spurt made in recent months in the implementation of Pyongyang’s nuclear missile program "was one of America’s most significant miscalculations."

According to the author, this circumstance explains the "inconsistency of the statements and the course in this matter of the inexperienced administration of President Trump."

According to one of the newspaper’s sources, “the key mistake was that, from the point of view of the US intelligence, Pyongyang would take as much time to master rocket technology as any other country during the Cold War.”

The interlocutor explained that in Washington “they underestimated the possibilities of the DPRK in computer modeling and in using the experience of third countries, as well as the determination and determination of Kim Jong-un.” The last year was an “instructive lesson” on the issue of “the limits of the capabilities of US electronic and satellite intelligence when conducting secret operations against a country with a relatively weak economy.”

Recall that in the autumn of 2017, Pyongyang announced the successful testing of a hydrogen charge for an intercontinental ballistic missile warhead, as well as the creation of an ICBM itself capable of delivering this charge to anywhere in the United States.
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  1. zzdimk
    zzdimk 7 January 2018 11: 01
    +1
    Their intelligence is only able to sit on the Internet. Where did the professionals go?
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 7 January 2018 11: 05
      +2
      Quote: zzdimk
      Where did the professionals go?

      Professionally surf the Internet)))
      1. VAGNER
        VAGNER 7 January 2018 11: 17
        10
        The revival of Russia overslept, and now the DPRK created the nuclear weapons ..
        This is a failure gentlemen and concrete! While you Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya wetted and tried to Syria, then the alignment of this happened .. Ukraine will beat Ukraine, Ukraine is in vain hoping for a war! Dulles' plan fails ..
        The Russians will still take revenge on you, this people cannot be defeated ... Prepare indemnities, etc.!
        1. 210ox
          210ox 7 January 2018 11: 39
          +2
          To beat off the territory inhabited by organisms poisoned by Bandera propaganda and embittered youth? Isn’t it easier not all, but at least where are they waiting for us?
          Quote: VAGNER
          The revival of Russia overslept, and now the DPRK created the nuclear weapons ..
          This is a failure gentlemen and concrete! While you Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya wetted and tried to Syria, then the alignment of this happened .. Ukraine will beat Ukraine, Ukraine is in vain hoping for a war! Dulles' plan fails ..
          The Russians will still take revenge on you, this people cannot be defeated ... Prepare indemnities, etc.!
          1. Amper
            Amper 7 January 2018 17: 31
            0
            Wisely! We are waiting for the decision of the commander in chief.
          2. Arabfun
            Arabfun 8 January 2018 08: 37
            0
            and if you look at Ukraine as a movie bank with hostages, captured by a bunch of well-armed bandits, complicated by the fact that some of the employees and clients with the gang ...
        2. onix757
          onix757 7 January 2018 12: 33
          +5
          And what do you see the revival of Russia? In completing the Soviet legacy in the defense industry / infrastructure and in the absence of at least some significant achievements in science and economics? It is rather a fiasco. But the Koreans really have something to be proud of.
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 7 January 2018 14: 19
            +7
            Quote: onix757
            And what do you see the revival of Russia? In completing the Soviet legacy in the defense industry / infrastructure and in the absence of at least some significant achievements in science and economics? It is rather a fiasco. But the Koreans really have something to be proud of.


            most likely you live recently, haven’t seen much, judge by the words of others, and there’s nothing to compare you with

            In your:
            agriculture in Russia is not an achievement
            full counters in stores is not an achievement
            the huge amount of housing commissioned is nothing
            millions of Russian people who have seen the world are nothing
            the second is the latest civilian aircraft created in Russia - this is nothing
            the latest aircraft engine that can create 3-4 countries in the world is nothing
            own processors, powerful IT projects - this is nothing
            many excellent roads, bridges, world-class airports, clean trains, clean streets in cities - it's nothing
            one of the best tax services in the world is nothing
            one of the best, if not the best in the world, armies is nothing

            can go on and on, too lazy to write

            and all this, after 10 years of destruction and destruction
            So what do you think?

            And what, interestingly, can be proud of the Koreans (North)?
            1. onix757
              onix757 7 January 2018 18: 46
              +1
              No, not an achievement! Part of the result is the unbridled opening of our own market to everyone and everything, and often not our production at all. Science in general is neither applied nor fundamental.
              Threat Harvest is not enough to grow, but still need to be preserved and processed But this is a problem. In addition, in normal powers they do not crush the markets with grain but feed cattle (which we have little autumn) smile
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            2. onix757
              onix757 7 January 2018 18: 50
              +1
              With aircraft engines, please do not need it. You better tell me whether the hot part was replaced on the surzhik engine or not. As far as I know, we are going to assemble the SSJ in its pure form only the barrel of the fuselage smile
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 7 January 2018 20: 48
                +1
                Quote: onix757
                With aircraft engines, please do not need it. You better tell me whether the hot part was replaced on the surzhik engine or not. As far as I know, we are going to assemble the SSJ in its pure form only the barrel of the fuselage smile


                Judging by your Russian, you do not have to write here, in the 5th grade dictations

                Maybe you have a good reason, but why then us, we, we?

                Regarding the Superjet, do you know how and where the Airbus is assembled, where are the components for the Boeing from?

                If we had not been pressed, we would have developed our niche, and we would have ordered components around the world, choosing the best in price and quality

                And it's ok



          2. Amper
            Amper 7 January 2018 17: 33
            0
            We are waiting for the decision of the commander-in-chief, he has already nurtured this plan for 20 years - will it begin in 2018 !? Not for nothing that he again climbs into the pros!
    2. Strips
      Strips 7 January 2018 11: 09
      +4
      Where did the professionals go?



      In the American embassies in Russia laughing

      But seriously, do not underestimate American intelligence. She's pretty serious.

      It's not a mistake that he does not do anything.
      1. gattus
        gattus 7 January 2018 11: 16
        0
        The “polite people” in Crimea were slammed, Kim Jong-un beat them - he went around the corner, the first to offer negotiations and possible unification to South Korea.
        1. midivan
          midivan 7 January 2018 13: 32
          +1
          Quote: gattus
          "Polite people" in Crimea were slammed

          HSP
          Quote: gattus
          Kim Jong-un beat them - he went around the corner, the first to offer negotiations and possible unification to South Korea

          HPA, but HPS and something is late what laughing
          1. Hammerlock
            Hammerlock 7 January 2018 14: 51
            0
            decrypt the whole list, please
            1. midivan
              midivan 7 January 2018 20: 59
              +1
              Quote: Hammerlock
              decrypt the whole list, please

              The cunning plan of Putin, Eun and Xi Jinping
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 7 January 2018 11: 18
        +2
        Quote: Tiras
        It's not a mistake that he does not do anything.

        It depends on what to do. You can work, or you can kick the bulldozer at the computer and scribble reports based on information received from handshake sources.
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 7 January 2018 11: 12
      +1
      Quote: zzdimk
      Where did the professionals go?

      -Americans parted, looking for treasures
      - notice your laughing
    4. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 7 January 2018 11: 35
      +1
      Quote: zzdimk
      Their intelligence is only able to sit on the Internet. Where did the professionals go?

      Went to marry each other, probably ...
    5. vovanpain
      vovanpain 7 January 2018 11: 36
      +5
      Quote: zzdimk
      Where did the professionals go?

      Where did the professionals go? request They died in the Cold War, and those who survived believed in their superpowers and hegemony and lost their professionalism. yes hi
      1. Going
        Going 7 January 2018 13: 14
        +2
        Yes, and all institutions are destroyed, hence such blunders.
    6. iouris
      iouris 7 January 2018 14: 06
      0
      Everything goes according to plan. "They" have not needed intelligence for a long time.
  2. Gray brother
    Gray brother 7 January 2018 11: 08
    +2
    Why develop the engines yourself when there are non-brothers who are always ready to sell Soviet developments inexpensively?
    1. dauria
      dauria 7 January 2018 12: 17
      +1
      there are brothers always ready to sell inexpensively


      A strange idea of ​​Korea. Like, illiterate peasants with a pinch of rice. They are working very seriously with Iran. And that one has successes, and the satellites are getting their own, and there are some bucks (GDP at the level of Canada, only without lawyers and dog hairdressers laughing ) And against the backdrop of our polytechnic universities - it's time for us to learn from them.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 7 January 2018 19: 26
        0
        Quote: dauria
        A strange idea of ​​Korea. Like, illiterate peasants with a pinch of rice.

        I do not see anything shameful in saving time and resources. I never considered them illiterate.
  3. Terenin
    Terenin 7 January 2018 11: 11
    +4
    Cowboys need help in training specialists, open a faculty for them at the FSB Academy.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 7 January 2018 11: 14
      +6
      Quote: Terenin
      Cowboys need help in training specialists, open a faculty for them at the FSB Academy.

      Yes, and so we are doing our best, there, in the last US election two FSB agents participated - Clinton and Trump.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 7 January 2018 11: 33
        +1
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Yes, and so we are doing our best, there, in the last US election two FSB agents participated - Clinton and Trump.

        Not. One of them is definitely GRUSHNIK. Who! I do not remember. Sclerosis bully Well. For allies drinks
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 7 January 2018 11: 37
          +2
          Quote: Tusv
          Not. One of them is definitely GRUSHNIK. Who! I do not remember. Sclerosis

          “One” means “he” means Trump. This is if Hirali is not really a man of course, but then they have such things in the West now - shame.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 7 January 2018 11: 41
            +1
            Quote: Gray Brother
            "One" means "he"

            You are abusing. If I recruited, then definitely with boobs drinks
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 7 January 2018 11: 49
              +5
              Quote: Tusv
              You are abusing. If I recruited, then definitely with boobs

              In some cases, it is impossible to drink so much vodka.
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 7 January 2018 11: 58
                0
                Quote: Gray Brother
                In some cases, it is impossible to drink so much vodka.

                Brrr Etozh 100 year old norm of alcohol throughout Russia in one sitting. I always knew that only alcoholics and perverts live in the west. Well for the Compatriots drinks
    2. Amper
      Amper 7 January 2018 17: 36
      0
      Take on the results of races on heliks!
  4. Monarchist
    Monarchist 7 January 2018 11: 14
    0
    Quote: Tiras
    Where did the professionals go?



    In the American embassies in Russia laughing

    But seriously, do not underestimate American intelligence. She's pretty serious.

    It's not a mistake that he does not do anything.

    That’s for sure,
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 7 January 2018 11: 19
    +5
    We did not think, we believed, we did not consider, we overlooked belay recourse , um-yyy n-not-ss-mogli .... And Eun squints and eats laughing
  6. Vard
    Vard 7 January 2018 11: 20
    +1
    Pride and prejudice ... This is what keeps Americans from becoming true leaders in the world.
  7. Egorovich
    Egorovich 7 January 2018 11: 23
    +3
    It's better to compose fakes than do analytics. Mattress is revealed in all its glory.
  8. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 7 January 2018 11: 31
    0
    Quote: zzdimk
    Their intelligence is only able to sit on the Internet. Where did the professionals go?

    Professionals, a respected colleague, also tend to degenerate! Like politicians, whose “level” we observe in Europe and the USA ... I’m not talking about the dominance of women in politics, because there are examples of everything, I don’t know any country led by a woman, popularly called a woman, wherever everything was OK! And you? Also in intelligence ... They think that the analysis of social networks is more important than working with agents, the weaving of espionage networks becomes stressful for them ... so they die, because arranging color revolutions in the presence of dough is easier than straining gyrus, stealing technical secrets ... for this, after all, it is possible to have an attat ... Well, we can only applaud the impotent !!! Glory to Russia!!!
    1. Egorovich
      Egorovich 7 January 2018 11: 49
      +2
      Indira Gandhi, Margaret Thatcher, Cleopatra, Corazon Aquino, Maria Medici, Catherine the Great, Michelle Bachelet, .................. - all women leaders from different times, where everything was OK !
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 January 2018 11: 40
    0
    .... evil Hollywood - he is Hollywood ... wassat
  10. APASUS
    APASUS 7 January 2018 11: 42
    +2
    Everything would be bad in US intelligence, it would not be the first power. I think it’s not in intelligence at all. Problems in decision-making people, for the US this is a problem. Degradation of political governance to the level of primates is the problem of Americans.
    1. Going
      Going 7 January 2018 13: 16
      +1
      And they also have a desire to work only on their own “stomach,” and their brains floated with fat, but that makes them even more dangerous.
  11. Herculesic
    Herculesic 7 January 2018 11: 46
    +1
    As the Yankees themselves say, "they are completely taxed!" lol And so often they messed up! lol But let Trump continue to think that the United States is "in control of the situation" fool
  12. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 7 January 2018 11: 59
    0
    and in using the experience of third countries,

    Who is this?
    during secret operations against a country with a relatively weak economy. ”

    As they were stupid, they remained. Shopkeepers. There are no countries with weak economies. There is an idea (ideology), a mobilization beginning and there are no unsolvable problems.
    The USSR lay in ruins after WWII, and raised Eastern Europe and did nuclear weapons. And for the restoration of the country we were released for 30 years, and 10 years in nuclear weapons.
    Dumb, but they don’t want to study. All measure cabbage.
  13. Monarchist
    Monarchist 7 January 2018 12: 03
    0
    American intelligence is very, very capable, but analytics will periodically allow them. On the eve of Pearl Harbar, they could not correctly "mosaic" and the result is known. They "missed" our nuclear program and here: ":" Washington has at least FOUR Years. "
    It seems to me that there are two reasons: “pride” We are the most, and the Scripture also says that pride is a great sin, b) “ethnic”: the Chinese and Koreans are hardworking and purposeful people. We decided: we will create atomic weapons and created, we will create launch vehicles and created
  14. Bypassed
    Bypassed 7 January 2018 12: 10
    0
    Absurd absurdity. Those who are able to add 2 + 2 have long known that the DPRK is just a training ground for the PRC to develop its nuclear and missile technologies. And all of Trump's brandishing wands with a baton sharply reduced amplitude when the PRC announced that China would not stand aside in the event of an attack on the DPRK.
  15. Terenin
    Terenin 7 January 2018 12: 21
    +6
    Quote: Egorovich
    It's better to compose fakes than do analytics. Mattress is revealed in all its glory.

    Right. Man follows the path of least resistance. Why bother when funding is steadily high. Well, they made a mistake, acknowledged the flaws and further develop the budget. The main thing for them is not to light up in sec $ harassment.
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  17. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 7 January 2018 14: 57
    0
    Well, analysts of any intelligence do not work for themselves, but for the bosses. Which has already decided everything for itself.
  18. razved
    razved 7 January 2018 16: 56
    0
    However, almost nothing new ... One is strange that they recognized their "maaalenky flaw."
  19. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 7 January 2018 17: 13
    0
    Ours in Kirov also missed the German bomber Heinkel He 111 angry :

    https://orfosvinstvo.d3.ru/est-kto-nibud-v-kirove
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