Militants again attacked the air base VKS RF "Hmeymim" in Syria

On the Telegram-channel Directorate 4, engaged in information tracking the activities of terrorists, published information about the next attack on the Russian airbase “Hamim” in Syria. It is noted that the attack was carried out using unmanned aerial vehicles.

From the material:

It is reported that the Russian military shot down several dronestrying to attack the base. There is no data on what the damage to the airbase could be in the event of attacks with the achievement of the goal. The UAVs were handicraft, equipped with handicraft mines, while due to the mass character they could cause significant damage to military equipment, which is located in the open.

On the Telegram channel it is noted that the anti-Russian forces used information tools to "attack". In particular, a certain group, the Free Alawites Movement, appeared on the Web, in which allegedly destroyed military equipment of the RF Armed Forces began to be listed. In particular, it is stated about the “damage or destruction of the C-400 air defense system”.

At the moment, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not comment on the attack on the Khmeimim airbase.

Recall that a few days earlier, the militants attacked the air base of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria with mortar shells. It was claimed that seven aircraft were damaged. The main defense department denied the information. However, after a few hours, photos appeared with at least two damaged Su-24 aircraft.

Comments

[Andrey Yuryevich]

It is noted that the attack was carried out using unmanned aerial vehicles.

and of course, these drones were collected right on the dune, from improvised materials and camel threshing floor ... if you need to build a base for a long time, caponiers, shelters ... not?

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Well, in theory, over 2 years, you can build reinforced concrete shelters.

[Chichikov]

Good thinking comes afterwards!
It has always been like this with us! Once, is the case. Two, repeat. Three, - got it, let's do something!

[210ox]

Constancy is a sign of mastery? Yeah, until the thunder strikes ... Nothing does history and bitter experience teach us ..

Quote: Chichikov

Good thinking comes afterwards!
It has always been like this with us! Once, is the case. Two, repeat. Three, - got it, let's do something!

[Lexus]

Constancy is a sign of mastery? Yeah, until the thunder strikes ... Nothing does history and bitter experience teach us ..

Shelters? No, not heard.
На ресурсе
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3037926.html
it is described in great detail how the US Air Force was regularly raked from partisans and advancing troops back in Vietnam. They also boasted at first, but then it finally dawned that they needed to "dig in". Ours, once again, decided to wait for their mistakes.

[vtyrtn]

Russian air base in Syrian Khmeimim fired from a 82-mm automatic mortar "Cornflower"

Experts called one of the advantages of "Cornflower" over other possible weapons of the militants is its weight (a little more than 630 kilograms), which allows transporting mortars in a camper van. In addition, the high rate of fire (up to 120 rounds per minute), the ability to charge the mortar with cartridges and the possibility of firing bursts are named as an advantage


One exploding ammunition can break up into 600 fragments, the newspaper notes.

“It should be noted that 82-millimeter-caliber mines are practically impossible to intercept with the means the Russian army possesses. Work in this direction was more successful abroad. For example, special NATO artillery and laser systems were developed in NATO countries. The Americans were able to defend their targets in the Baghdad area from mortar shelling "

the Cornflower created in the USSR was not supplied to the Syrian army; in all likelihood, the mortar hit militants from Turkey.





According to experts, fighters, bombers and attack aircraft, lined up in one line, are very vulnerable to terrorist attacks, and it is time to begin construction of special shelters for equipment.

[Nick]

Quote: vtyrtn

vtyrtn

Stop filling the site with your primitive propaganda. Go donkey make happy.

[11 black]

Quote: vtyrtn

On the evening of 6 on January, the Russian air base in Khmeimim was again attacked.
The base was attacked by several drones, and perhaps missiles were fired at it.
Syrian sources report that the base was attacked by two drones. Among the base personnel there are victims.
Syrian media also posted photos of drones shot down over the base.
Meanwhile, on Facebook, an organization called the Free Alawite Army again revitalized. She issued a statement as follows:
“I tell all the people of our sect, especially the Haidariin and Makhusiin clans, to everyone who wants to protect the Russians. The game is more than Russian. The Russians will not hold out here for more than six months, and they will leave - and this is guaranteed.
This is a great game. Today, Khmeimim was hit hard. The Russians were only able to shoot down two drones and five missiles. The remaining missiles and drones found their targets. Destroyed aircraft and the C-400 system.
And those who are responsible for drones and missiles are those countries that decided to humiliate the Russians in Syria. The Russians are weak and they will not be able to hold this place. The coming days will be painful for the Russians, especially because Putin’s elections are approaching. There are those who have news for Putin. They want to tell him that they can mix all the cards to him at the moment they choose, that he plays with the “big guys”, and he himself is a small guy. They allowed him to come in, because it was profitable for them, and now it is beneficial for them to leave! ”

And according to my information, all 13 drones were intercepted - 7 of them were shells, and the rest - with electronic warfare. Three drones managed to land and capture.
PS When you are already banned for these fakes ...even if this lie turned out to be true (do not bring fate of course), then we still would not be scared of filthy terrorism!
And also this - because they were able to put the zas.ran.tsevs on their belly, I remembered

[vtyrtn]

barmaleans use ISIS tactics in Iraq

[donavi49]

According to Haraste, on the contrary, everything is fine. They actually struck a corridor. 250meters left. Open strip. At night, like separate units of the WG, they went to the encircled base as a reinforcement. Another 1-2 of the day and the corridor will be struck on a large area.

There really surrendered fighters. As soon as he collapsed - there a lot gave up immediately. And in the early days, when there was a strong assault. Also, 5-10 people gave up - when there was an ultimatum from the broads. In general, about 300-500 people surrendered more or less objectively to 40-50 fighters there.

[xetai9977]

"Hey!" Woe to the moderators? Why are you turning the resource into fake news? "
And why did they get that this is a fake? You don't like it, therefore? But "the militants are destroyed, the war is over" - is this not a fake? Or, "The USA is falling apart," "Ukraine is about to fall apart," is this not a fake? Information is information, like it or not.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: xetai9977

But "the militants are destroyed, the war is over" - is this not a fake?

Fake. And the author (author - author - author) him - you...
Putin certainly didn’t say that. And Shoigu, too ... did not say.

Quote: xetai9977

Information is information - like it or not

And what is written on the fence is also “information”?

[Prisoner]

For someone, definitely yes.

[freddyk]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Putin certainly didn’t say that. And Shoigu, too ... did not say.

“All armed groups of the Islamic State in Syria have been destroyed,” said the chief of the Russian general staff Valery Gerasimov. Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reported on the complete victory over ISIS to President Vladimir Putin, who announced Wednesday that he would run for election, “from News on December 6, 2017.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: freddyk

freddyk

freddyk, in Syria, in addition to the IG, there are still a lot of other barmaley.
This is just in case you are not in the know.

Quote: xetai9977

the militants are destroyed, the war is over

But this implies that destroyed ALL action movies.
This is not true, and therefore neither Gerasimov, nor Shoigu, nor Putin said this.
It said xetai9977.
He is wrong, which was indicated to him.
Supplements, objections, suggestions?

[freddyk]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Supplements, objections, suggestions?

It turns out interesting, we are solemnly withdrawing the troops, the State Duma is already discussing a new holiday on the calendar, but there is nothing to celebrate, in Syria there are a lot of other barmales. Why then all this pathos?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: freddyk

.. it turns out ... in Syria, a lot of other barmaley ...

Didn't you know that?
Marvelous is your work, Lord

[Dr_engie]

Are you talking about Hezbollah?

[freddyk]

Okay, I didn’t know, that’s why for our military in Syria this turned out to be a revelation. It seems that only you knew, but did not tell anyone about it.

[voronbel53]

... a complete victory, it is that ISIS will never regain its strength in Syria, its head was finally cut off, and this is the dying convulsions of the worm that the Propinda forces want to reanimate, but late, uncle ...

[Vlad.by]

Basmachism, as a way of combating the RSFSR, was defeated in 1924-27, but crossings across the border and attacks on individual objects took place until 1932-34.
Bandera as a class was destroyed by 1949, although the attacks continued until 1954.
Chechnya was reconciled in principle seven years ago. However, the process of complete reconciliation is still far from over.
And in Syria they just finished shooting large flocks of ravens. Small ones still fly and crap. Then, when they are shot, loners will fly for some time.
But the process must continue as with the basmachi. First, interrupt on their territory, and then get out where they are prepared, eat and sleep. No way without it

[Nick]

Quote: freddyk

"All armed groups of the Islamic State in Syria have been destroyed, the chief of the Russian general staff Valery Gerasimov said. Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reported to President Vladimir Putin about the complete victory over ISIS.

And what's wrong? Isil as an organized military force kirdyk. And the fact that some bandits or saboteurs fired on the object does not cancel the fact of the defeat of the IG. Most likely, the Amersk people are trying to mischief finely. Well, hands will reach them soon.

[the most important]

[quote = Chichikov Once, - a case. Two, repeat. Three, - got it, let's do something! [/ Quote]
Once - this is stupidity ... two times - idiocy ... But that would be repeated THIS for the third time I do not believe !! Even in the second, it is doubtful ...

[Nick]

Quote: the most important

[quote = Chichikov Once, - a case. Two, repeat. Three, - got it, let's do something!

Once - this is stupidity ... two times - idiocy ... But that would be repeated THIS for the third time I do not believe !! Even in the second, it is doubtful ... [/ quote]
Well so, attackers of course go ... you. And you do not believe that? What are they three times id-you? In vain.

[srelock]

I heard that reinforced concrete shelters for Khmeimim, at the request of the active part of the population, were distributed to pregnant pensioners.

[Nick]

Quote: voronbel53

... funny ?, miserable ...

Yes, there are quite a few with shrunken brains.

[P-140]

A pentogram has already been built, no?
PS The program is maximum.

[Dead duck]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Well, in theory, over 2 years, you can build reinforced concrete shelters.

on the night of October 31 on November 1 of 1964, the Vietnamese (units of the National Liberation Army of the National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam - NFOYUV) fired from six 82-mm mortars of the Bienhua American air base near Saigon. According to American data, 64-65 mines were fired, and the shelling itself was carried out about 20 minutes from a distance of only 1,4 km from the base perimeter (that is, it was apparently carefully adjusted). As a result of the shelling, five Martin B-57В Canberra U.S. Air Force bombers were burned and 15 B-57В bombers, three A-1Н attack aircraft and four helicopters were damaged, another AN-1Н crashed while trying to take off an emergency to suppress mortar fire. B-57В aircraft stood in the open wing-to-wing parking lot. Four US troops killed and 74 injured, two South Vietnamese soldiers killed

not so simple .... the link has a lot of interesting data
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3037926.html

[No pasaran]

In fact, it is.
Earlier on Saturday, an unmanned aerial vehicle of militants was shot down near the Khmeimim air base by the Syrian military. The drone was arranged primitively - a wooden frame on which the engine is fixed with duct tape. He carried two homemade mines with a plastic hull.
And as for the caponiers, I agree, at least they would have saved the weapons from such permission .... And so, attack, I do not want to ... They’re attacking.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Now there is an information attack, they are trying to show that Khmeimim is a passage yard, where any shushera climbs.

[Monarchist]

Aristarchus, and yet, it has a psychological calculation: we will get you when we want. They estimate that the pilots’s nerves will be tense and will not nail them like that.

[voronbel53]

... or maybe, after all this, it will be quite the opposite - the final kapets will come to all prokim forces? ..

[Nick]

Quote: Monarchist

But this has a psychological calculation: we will get you when we want. They estimate that the pilots’s nerves will be tense and will not nail them like that.

I think the effect will be the opposite. The barmalei will now be nailed especially diligently

[Gardamir]

Hey! "moderators"

And that’s true, let’s discuss from morning to night about bad Ukraine.

[Antares]

Quote: Gardamir

about bad Ukraine.

it’s not necessary, because I don’t understand what I’m already sitting on. Any topic is sliding about Ukraine and then the mustache ..

[Nick]

Quote: alexneg

Hey! "Woe to the moderators"? Why are you turning a resource into fake news? Or is it your direct job? Spread the OBS on an Internet coupled with Kommersant ..? Who do you work for, "warriors"?

And the moderators for this seem to have their own gesheft. We heard that the State Department has already allocated 30 Baku lards for regime change in Russia. Here are rootless cosmopolitans for their 30 pieces of silver and try. Pillut the American budget in the sweat of your face

[Vlad.by]

Where is the evidence of the effectiveness of the second attack?
Listen to these fake news, as the Israelis constantly "receive" from the rockets. "Dying" by millions ... but caponiers on the Golan Heights seem to not be built.

[DEDPIHTO]

These skilled barmalei urgently need to be taken prisoner, they teach our people how to sculpt battle drones on their knees .. otherwise the acre of futuristic drawings cannot boast of anything in this regard

[LSA57]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

and of course, these drones were collected right on the dune, from improvised materials and camel threshing floor ...

almost

UAVs were made at home, equipped with artisanal mines,

got it. but rather taught

if the base is to be built for a long time, caponiers, shelters ... not?

but they are. on the mattress base

[alex-cn]

And it actually is! From what is sold in DIY stores, even a high school student is able to assemble a drone with a mine. Only a harder grenade to get ... just not in Syria.

[Kasym]

I would wait for the official posts. After the visit of the GDP and its statements, the "well-wishers" are ready to take photoshop and pour mud on anything on the work of the videoconferencing.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Kasym

I would wait for the official posts. After the visit of the GDP and its statements, the "well-wishers" are ready to take photoshop and pour mud on anything on the work of the videoconferencing.

Kasym this morning, I read it too

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Here to believe it or not There was no offensiveness either, but the spears were breaking.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Kasym

I would wait for the official posts.

And then the commentators at the top of the branch do not need this. The moderators swear, it’s our chance, and they talk about the surrender of the fighters of the Syrian army ... the question arises, do you gentlemen really need or just an excuse to leave excrement on the fan?

[Vlad.by]

Now, the information has already “leaked” that the GDP in Syria either torn off his head or his arm, and in public it’s not GDP, but his understudy ... Just like under Emelka Pugachev and in the film “The Tsar was Changed” ...
Fse, go to the bulb ... you need to look for demons, find and answer - to the barrel of gunpowder

[Spartanez300]

Leave the unfinished enemy and withdraw the troops according to my stupidest decision, again the mattresses were left with additional space for their plans and they will certainly take advantage of this. More precisely, they began to use judging by the attacks on our base. Putin and the company just play a giveaway, but it’s interesting why our soldiers died if the former advantage with such difficulty won so mediocre.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Spartanez300

Leave the unfinished enemy and withdraw troops in my stupidest decision

This gimp with Syria will stretch for years and the elections are already in March, what pictures on TV show probably know .. draw conclusions

[seal78]

Well, for sure, you're the smartest, and Putin is stupid. How, interestingly, did he manage to become president if he was so stupid?

[Jack]

Yeltsin appointed ...

[dvina71]

Quote: Jack

Yeltsin appointed ...

How is this? The EBN lost power, but not personally to the GDP .. and to a group of people who nominated GDP for the premieres, and from there to the presidency .. The EBN and its "family" received guarantees of immunity for the first term of the GDP .. they needed to close this time all their affairs in Russia. So at a glance .. GDP first repealed the Yeltsin law on "Sharing natural resources" .. a good appointee ..

[Jack]

Perhaps (for infancy or another reason) you missed a television plot where Yeltsin voiced the name of his last ...
And the difference between them is only in the face ...

[dvina71]

Quote: Jack

Perhaps (for infancy or another reason) you missed a television plot

By age I didn’t find out about this through the TV story. You know what Kirichenko risked in initiating a default .. and no matter what anyone said ... ordinary citizens didn’t suffer from it .. I suffered ... for example .. I was engaged in deliveries of spare parts from Europe for cars .. but I just closed it came out practically from 0 .., but who invested in T-bills .., and they didn’t let ordinary mortals go there, they flew into the billions .. And the “family” of EBN and Chubais stood behind the T-bills .. and it was nothing more than the withdrawal of the remainder of the currency that is flowing from the supply of hydrocarbons .. A significant part of the currency was simply withdrawn on the basis of the law "On joint azrabotke natural resources ".. grazhdane..esli in the region to sell over the hill nothing bylo..myagko govorya..sosali paw of a bear ..
\ This is all I need .. Such changes have occurred very quickly .., within 2-3 years .., and this is definitely not a dream of the ebn and his team.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: dvina71

I'm all for what

Thanks for the helpful comment.
And, good advice - do not feed the troll.

[Evgeniy667b]

Chubais put forward the candidacy of GDP, as far as I know ..

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

... As I know

A source?

Quote: Evgeniy667b

... put forward by Chubais ...

Well, and even if?
And how do people appear, too, ahem, will we recall here?

[Hey]

that our soldiers died if the former advantage with such difficulty won so mediocre wasted.

Painfully reminiscent of 2014, they took Crimea, all of New Russia is ready to become part of Russia. No, they stopped.
As a result, thousands of victims of the Russian people, destruction, the ongoing war.
Once again, on the same rake.
Fortunately, Georgians drifted in 2008. And the same would be.

[cannabis]

But now we have our own little "Israel" on Syrian soil.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Spartanez300

Leave the unfinished enemy and withdraw troops in my stupidest decision

It is unlikely that everyone was taken out, left in the number of "necessary and sufficient"

[Azim77]

Be sure to leave. They “pulled out” for any external and internal riffraff, who screamed especially loudly and staged before the elections that so much money was being spent on the war, it would be better for the children to milk, for the elderly to retire, etc. Iran’s example clearly shows this.

[Dreamboat]

As the saying goes: "Why aren’t you so smart in order?" This is the war of the Syrians, which they started, only they can end. Russia helped the legitimate authorities (compensating for the intervention of third countries), the course of the war was turned over, and it is painfully expensive to chase individual carts on jet aircraft.
About the fact that it was completely delirious to get all of Syria out of it only to one xetai9977, we reduced our grouping as the fronts collapsed. Airplanes, although iron, but there is the concept of "resource", after such active work, serious prevention is needed. The remaining forces are enough for the systematic advance of the Syrian troops ...
And it’s high time to get used to certain informational stuffing and regular seizures caused by them, the seizures were that “the whole budget went to Syria”, now “that the troops have withdrawn in vain” ... “these” seizures are on schedule, and they will always find the topic!

[Nick]

Quote: Spartanez300

Leave the unfinished enemy and withdraw the troops according to my stupidest decision, again the mattresses were left with additional space for their plans and they will certainly take advantage of this.

The troops in Syria remained. Whom do they write there? Here it is ...
And our VKS still beat the barmalei. Only not IS, they have already finished, but al nusra and others like them. Assad to the rescue

[Evgeniy667b]

Andrey Yuryevich And what, the Indians ran their Wimans with the urine of elephants. The idea is in the air. Read the “Weimanika Shastri” or the encyclopedia of cars, in other words

[Muvka]

We are waiting for the response of the MO. So far, it seems more like the militants themselves are trying to raise morale for themselves, given the fact that they are very heavily pressed from the south.

[private person]

Muvka so what did you wait for the photo with damaged planes? Maybe you should wait and the damaged S-400 will be shown? Although most likely not.

[Muvka]

No, I didn’t wait. In the video of the star from the 5th, it is clearly visible that the Su-24 with BN 29 is safe and sound.

[private person]

Or maybe it's not BN 29 but for example 25. showed on the "Star"?

[Muvka]

No, I clearly saw that 29. And you would have to an ophthalmologist, if you see 25 there.

[Dreamboat]

Any muddy photo of a couch blogger is true, any clear video is a lie. It is difficult to argue with a person who is convinced that only he is right, and everyone around is lying. Only experienced orderlies cope ....

[private person]

The trunk is written on the fence and there is firewood. But I did not say about the authenticity of the photo, only direct witnesses or participants know the truth about the information war. Here, in a civilian case, when investigating equipment failures in production, they will do this, and this is the state army in the state.

[Golovan Jack]

Where is the photo?

[pvv113]

In principle, this version cannot be ruled out. We in the USSR and not taught this

[Edvid]

Shooting cannons at flea targets is inefficient. For the "Shell" it is necessary to create a new ammunition, as against ducks: equip the cartridge with shot; when shot in the near field, the shot charge covers a large area, any small target will be shot down.

[alex86]

So we defeated them, or what? ...
And when will we win next time?

[cedar]

It may well be the "movement of non-free Alawites", which will attack the base of the Saxophilic in Syria ...
We still have to grapple with them, it is a matter of time. When? The later, the better ...

[P-140]

It’s like “There is an opinion”

[LSA57]

Quote: cedar

We still have to grapple with them,

and we have long seized. immediately after WWII. true by strangers

[Spec]

"War cannot be avoided, it can only be delayed - to the benefit of your adversary" (c) Machiavelli

[corporal]

UAVs were handicraft production, equipped with artisanal mines, while due to mass character they could inflict significant damage on military equipment located in the open air.

I was all amazed when frames of minidron attacks on military equipment appeared on the network, how this fate passed us. So it happened.
Well, now they will stir about shelters.
Or having no equivalent in the world of electronic warfare.

[Spartanez300]

It’s not necessary to prepare shelters, but to work proactively and hard so that there would be no desire to attack our bases then, I think the next turn is for Tartus and it is not far off. But they see how Russia reacts to spitting in the face, wipes itself off and substitutes again, and that’s all from a cowardly policy, but how the United States does it without looking at what they say about you (more specifically, lay it down on everyone). Already before Russia looked back no one puts what.

[flicker]

"The dog barks, the caravan goes."
So that there the terrorists haven’t done it yet, and the Syrian army is slowly but surely killing them (naturally, with the help of the VKS).

[Dreamboat]

So such attacks occur constantly and are also constantly reflected. This is a way to lure "barmaley" to send to Allah ..
And only 1 time on December 31 the children from the air defense were distracted by the president to listen, they let one mine in ....
So the holiday of the whole "army sofa", they wrote as much destroyed equipment as there is no base!

[Same lech]

Too much fake news ... half-truths, information is usually blurred and it’s impossible to know for sure ... all the attributes of the information war are evident.

One thing is clear: the attacks are well prepared, thought out and promoted ... the damage to RUSSIA is mainly in a purely informational sense.
The enemy so far has an advantage in surprise ... our intelligence is clearly flawed.

[Severok]

There is a real full-fledged war. It is against Russia. In all areas: information, economics, sports, education, culture, foreign countries. We simply must be intolerant of the manifestations of this war. By the way, Pavlensky and Sobchak are also elements of the war against Russia. The rest of the enemies you see almost every day in the news.

[Same lech]

Pavlensky

This fruit will be in a French prison for arson with dangerous consequences for those around it ... we need the quirks of democracy ... in RUSSIA he got away with it and the French will measure his term to the fullest.

[Hey]

in RUSSIA, he got away with it and the French will measure his term to the fullest.

That is why everyone says that Russia can only wipe itself off.
Why in Russia they did not measure his term to the fullest, even when he only beat his pretendals on Red Square.

[Dreamboat]

Why do you make a martyr out of an idiot? Feed him, dress, protect ... Let him beat them even to the departing train, so that no more such ones are born!

[viktor_ui]

The attached three photos of allegedly damaged mines ... are they "pulled" for fragmentation and explosive damage ??? A single hole with a jet ..., a large-sized stabilizer - apparently each fragment was the size of a good cleaver. Muddy story

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

I hope that the cobweb gebnya will find the authors of these photos, if they are relevant and belong to the Khmeimim air base.

[P-140]

I, as a “CIA agent, declare that Assad made it on Red Square with the permission of the TSUM manager”

[Herculesic]

Aristarkh Lyudoedovich, you need to arrange an excursion to the Lubyanka, to their cellars, for the "bloody gebnya"!

[udincev]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

will find the authors of these photos

What to search? This is a satellite photo. Flying accidentally at the level of the chassis of "damaged" aircraft.

[voyaka uh]

"bulky stabilizer" ///

This is a shock wave. And the hole in the fuselage is a shrapnel shrapnel or a bullet.
Perhaps in a cluttered night the sentries fired from personal weapons and
accidentally damaged planes.

[viktor_ui]

the devil knows about the shock wave, which, as in a ruler, shakes one stabilizer and does not affect the plumage and the body itself ... a nano-wall from a Chubais in business ??? We’ll wait and see who or what and what sly ass is trying to cover up. Although there is no war without casualties and it would be foolish to consider all the warring parties as near and worthless
There, near the hole, you can still see a small scratch ...

[voyaka uh]

"one stabilizer is shaggy and does not affect the plumage and the body itself" ///

There, it seems, and the engine nozzle is affected. Which is much worse than a stabilizer.
Which will be replaced entirely. It is clear that this plane can be restored.

[viktor_ui]

I looked at the photo of the nozzle ... the quality of the pictures is frankly rubbish, but I did not see any obvious signs of it, as a layman. All this is muddy.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: voyaka uh

It is a shock wave

Directed exclusively along the body of the aircraft?
I always thought for some reason that the shock wave propagates ... evenly in all directions
If this is a "shock wave" - ​​where is a dent in the case, for example? Kiel why safe?
Unclear

[voyaka uh]

The keel is parallel to the shock wave -
therefore it did not hurt. And the stabilizer is prependicular.
And it turned around. The case is more durable and harder to crush.
And there was a dent on the nozzle.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: voyaka uh

Kiel is parallel to the shock wave

Amazingly.
"Distributed in all directions" - do not dispute? And rightly so, it is obvious, as it were ...
So - “in all directions” means that the front of the shock wave (in the absence of obstacles) has the form spheres.
A plane parallel to the surface of a sphere is something new in geometry ...

Quote: voyaka uh

And it turned around. The case is more durable and harder to crush.

The warriordisappoint ...
And the “crocodile is greener than flat” is from the same series ...

Quote: voyaka uh

... there was a dent in the nozzle

Well then ... snot ...
Great and powerful is our Russian language
Never convinced, unfortunately

[voyaka uh]

You don't be so emotional . I put forward my thoughts, read
Your arguments. We have an interesting discussion. I'm not trying to leave
followed by the last word: "anyway, I'm right!" .
I myself wonder how it was, so I'm trying to find out .

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: voyaka uh

I'm not trying to leave
followed by the last word: "anyway, I'm right!"

Warrior, I’m not at war with you ... well, not a milligram
But the "blast wave is parallel" and at the same time the "blast wave is non-directional" - this does not happen in nature.
If horizontal plumage was turned around like that, then vertical could not remain untouched.
Moreover - if it is a mortar mine - where are the traces of fragments?
Some garbage turns out, I'm just about that.

[voyaka uh]

"But" the blast wave is parallel "////

But why? The explosion is spreading from a certain point. On some lines. In all directions. If you place a flat surface so that it
parallel to one of these lines (air wave propagation), but such
the surface will not damage and will not budge the explosion. This can
explain the intact keel.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: voyaka uh

The explosion is spreading from a certain point. On some lines. In all directions. If you place a flat surface so that it is parallel to one of these lines (air wave propagation), but such a surface will not damage and will not move the explosion ...

Let us suppose...
Where, at what point did the mortar mine explode in order to damage only the stabilizer (keel intact, body also intact)?
Where, to the ravens, the fragments from that mine disappeared? Annihilated, it seems
In short - well, in any way this damage does not draw on the consequences of mortar shelling ... no matter how I try to "pull" it does not stretch

[voyaka uh]

I agree with you ... not everything fits into my hypothesis.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: voyaka uh

"But" the blast wave is parallel "////

But why? The explosion is spreading from a certain point. On some lines. In all directions. If you place a flat surface so that it
parallel to one of these lines (air wave propagation), but such
the surface will not damage and will not budge the explosion. This can
explain the intact keel.

Reminds a joke about the rabbi, wallet and Saturday. According to your theory, it turns out “around Saturday, but according to sensations Thursday” ... a blast wave spreads along his line)))) Scream ...

[passerby5]

yes there it’s clear that something is hurt when taxiing

[Dalailama]

usually catches the tanker

[Vlad.by]

And the second stabilizer at that time went to cast ... and the duralumin case turned out to be stronger than the steel nozzle from heat-resistant alloys ...
No, well, everything is clear ... :-)

[Dreamboat]

Forensic course

[passerby5]

horseradish, you have a version)))

[Sergeant71]

By the way, 6 new SU-34s arrived in Khmeimim. We recall that it was stated about the number of damaged roofing felts, roofing felts destroyed SU-24. It was said about supposedly 7. The number is almost the same, is not it? Encourages certain thoughts.
The arguments that the new SU-34 arrived there “just like that” didn’t sound convincing, as further gradual withdrawal of the equipment was announced. Photos of the downed Drones, by the way, are in the VK in the Military Informant group.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Sergeant71

Photos of the downed Drones, by the way, are in the VK in the Military Informant group.

Well, here or a link or a photo with a link.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: PSih2097

Well, here or a link or a photo with a link.

[Cheldon]

, well, just a circle of aircraft modeling.

[Grits]

By the way, it’s high time to pay attention to the tactics of massive use of small shock drones to our air defense troops and the rebels. Because it gradually turns out to be more effective and efficient and will eventually reach perfection, when it will be difficult for them to oppose something. Our sworn friends, seeing such an effect, are already rubbing their pens and are developing accordingly. Where is the development of our response? At the Army 2017 they showed some kind of awkward shotgun against the drone - 1 km. pounding. If you get there. But the situation is serious. And then, our triple-praised “Armor” turned out to be something .... not really (as well as the twice-praised EW), only confirms these concerns.

[Cheldon]

Quote: Gritsa

By the way, it’s high time to pay attention to the tactics of massive use of small shock drones to our air defense troops and the rebels. Because it gradually turns out to be more effective and efficient and will eventually reach perfection, when it will be difficult for them to oppose something. Our sworn friends, seeing such an effect, are already rubbing their pens and are developing accordingly. Where is the development of our response? At the Army 2017 they showed some kind of awkward shotgun against the drone - 1 km. pounding. If you get there. But the situation is serious. And then, our triple-praised “Armor” turned out to be something .... not really (as well as the twice-praised EW), only confirms these concerns.

Your fears are not unfounded and understandable. With the massive use of drones, a few pieces are enough to make a nixie (a warehouse explosion at the stadium, I saw a video somewhere) I hope this problem is already being solved in our scientific companies.

[Dreamboat]

And what did our carapace again not please you? Photo of downed drones.
Over the problem of dealing with small drones who just do not work.

[passerby5]

like our military said they found on their cunning opu x. with a screw. I'm talking about drones. Americans show off that they can run the crowd and the whole amba. and ours said-run-we found the antidote ..... question? Why not run in Syria? or waited for the cancer to whistle?

[KCA]

But is there really constantly deployed air units in Syria? It seems like there is a rotation of equipment, pilots, technical staff and service staff

[CorvusCoraks]

As they say, special for you. It was said about 4 damaged su 24, 2 su 30 (seemingly) and already about 1 silt 76 ...
Something I don’t think that 6 su 34 will replace it all ...

[Muvka]

And when did 6 Su-34s arrive in Khmeimim? Share a link to the news. Very interesting to read.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Sergeant71

The arguments that the new SU-34 arrived there “just like that” didn’t sound convincing, as further gradual withdrawal of the equipment was announced.

The conclusion of the technique is nothing more than a PR campaign. In March 2016, it was already withdrawn, after which our equipment only increased there.

[Muvka]

As for the Su-24, it has already returned to duty, on the Star channel there was a news release from the base. And even if the Su-34 arrived, it means that they are simply building up their strength after attacking the base in order to more quickly compare the Bakhs with the land. That's all. But again, I don’t see news in the media that Su-34 arrived in Khmeimim.

[voyaka uh]

I drove along the airfield (in front of the camera) - for this, a stabilizer is not needed. Not
the fact that the plane can take off.

[Muvka]

And the fact that he stood still (stabilizer) didn’t bother you? You are so stupidly trying to argue with obvious things ... By the way, did your F-35 roll out your photo after a collision with a "stork" or not? ;)

[voyaka uh]

Stealth coverage damage is a new thing in Israel. No repair experience of this kind.
Specialists from the United States and Lockheed were called for repairs. I can not say how and when
repair completed.

[Grits]

Stealth coverage damage is a new thing in Israel. No repair experience of this kind.
Specialists from the United States and Lockheed were called for repairs.
In order for such an experience to appear, it was necessary to continue to develop and produce its own combat aircraft (Kfir, etc.), and not to dance with joy to the striped tune. Now you are reaping the lack of experience, but you might already be leaders.

[Shahno]

Here you are right, our cant. Which absolutely confirms the leadership situation in drones

[voyaka uh]

"it was necessary to continue to develop and produce their own combat aircraft (Kfir, etc.)" ///

I can not agree with you. Israel could develop some aircraft, but could not (financially) establish their serial production, even paying for R&D. Therefore, I had to focus on avionics, and in this area Israel has become one of the world leaders. And the avionka reaches 50% of the cost of a modern combat aircraft.

[Shahno]

I agree. But you need to use the backlog in the UAV to create a la track. generation of own production. Now it's fin. opportunities allow. Not all orthodox pay.

[voyaka uh]

Yes, something like Avenger we are able to blind. Both technically and financially. Only the engine will have to buy.

[Shahno]

Everything is simple here, one thing is a whole stealth coating, and another when the whole so-called multi-layer composite is destroyed. Extra info ... Then they will show it, it’s too early.

[voyaka uh]

Usually, we publish pictures with aircraft damage only
after few years. But publish. For example, a photo of the F-15, which landed with a flipped engine, into the nozzle of which a Syrian explosive rocket flew in 1982, was published many years later. And the aircraft was commissioned in year 3.

[Muvka]

And yesterday, your man argued with me that our MO was simply obliged to post pictures of the aircraft in order to refute the fact that they were damaged. He spoke about the fact that it’s all for the taxpayers ’money, that they are obliged to report. But it turns out you are wrong? Why should our MO report, but not yours?

[voyaka uh]

Everyone has their own opinion. In Israel, fortunately, there is no "line of the party."
We also had failures in the protection of military (infantry) bases. With big sacrifices.
Expelled from the army (with demotion) officers in serious ranks for this.

[Shahno]

No one should. You just need to understand the situation. What is more important image loss, or the leak of technological information.

[Muvka]

And what is not your image loss? After all, the news on the stork and about the crippled S-200 indicate one day. Is not it? Your aircraft could show this F-35, proving that it is alive and almost intact. But no.

[Shahno]

Well .. It was decided not to merge the coating structure. The perspective was not camillo in this sense.

[passerby5]

Well, actually, they could have done it easier, just draw a number. but I read somewhere that this photo was there about 2 years ago and something was done there, and the analysis was not from a gap but from a collision (when taxiing) -If you take a closer look, it looks like something rested

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Sergeant71

there is, by the way, in VK in the Military Informant group

I watched this "informant" yesterday (tonight, more precisely).
Rresh fresh, IMHO

[huntsman650]

Strelkov writes that in reality, the group is not being reduced, but is being increased and strengthened. And PMC too.

[Dreamboat]

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 Dreamboat Today, 16:07

[quote = Sergeant71] By the way, 6 new SU-34s arrived in Khmeimim. We recall that it was stated about the number of damaged roofing felts, roofing felts destroyed SU-24. It was said about supposedly 7. The number is almost the same, is not it? Encourages certain thoughts.

And where does infa come from? Or again, someone from St. Petersburg in the sky counted?

[Vlad.by]

I have a photo of the drone shot down by the Iranians in the collection - there are enough for another ten “attacks”. So, I think my collection is not the richest.
It’s a pity, pictures of planes with individual local injuries are not enough, otherwise I would have muddied the fake war ... I would blow the hell out of the entire VKS group together with the naval ships in Tartus.

[passerby5]

))))) ++++ is cool, I would laugh later

[Lenivets2]

“By the way, 6 new SU-34s arrived in Khmeimim.”

A reference is not in vain (do not deign) to give?

[gig334]

Name the article that the Russian base of Khmeimim was again forged by unverified fake news. To attack the base, the terrorists from the Isis, again used the yellow press.

[Viktor.12.71]

Twitter Ivan Sidorenko. There is a photo of wooden drones with plastic mines attached. And there, the complete death of 103 brigades was confirmed, and this is more than a hundred fighters who were surrounded. This resource is Proasadovsky.

[Dalailama]

This English-speaking clown with obvious psychopathology in many photographs even has his own round emblem.

[Viktor.12.71]

But he is in contact with the SAA fighters, and he was not caught on false news.

[Dalailama]

But does he bring all the news, or just some?

[Viktor.12.71]

Only those that send him CAA fighters.

[Dalailama]

Are all of the ones they send him? Is there a photo with the leaders of the bandits destroyed by this 103rd brigade on his Twitter?
Of which, on his twitter, is the death squad.

[Viktor.12.71]

The leaders of the bandits? I do not understand. The militants have a video with the capture of captured 103 brigades, I will not upload it. You will find it yourself, but not with Sidorenko. The fate of the prisoners is not enviable that the pro-Sadovites, that the opposition, both do not shine with humanism.

[Dalailama]

Was the capture of those Hawaiians before or after? The point of applying humanism to those who do not specifically shine on them? If your sidorenko laid it out, then he would have burned completely.

[Viktor.12.71]

Quote: DalaiLama

Was the capture of those Hawaiians before or after?

I don’t know this.

[Grits]

The fate of the prisoners is not enviable that the pro-Sadovites, that the opposition, both do not shine with humanism.
That's the whole fighting spirit of the Arabs - they know what will be held captive with them, but they give up anyway. People like our Prokhorenko are not born in that environment.

[Dalailama]

Arabs are also different, at one time a large caliphate was

[Viktor.12.71]

You are cunning. The Arabs did not have unity, the caliphate itself fell apart for some half a century, if not less. There was a civil war until the Turks arrived.

[passerby5]

various? only if some are ready for anything right away for the money, the others still bargain a little

[Dalailama]

Quote: Viktor.12.71

You are cunning. The Arabs did not have unity, the caliphate itself fell apart for some half a century, if not less. There was a civil war until the Turks arrived.

read the history of the Arab caliphate is not in the crafty Israeli edition.

[Grits]

And there, the complete death of 103 brigades was confirmed, and this is more than a hundred fighters who were surrounded.
Wow, what a big team! Are they getting smaller, or what?

[Strashila]

A beggar was found, how to spoil Russia ... now it will be constantly, dirty tricks and fakes on the network ... there was, there wasn’t be muck there will be faces.

[cedar]

Quote: Sergeant71

By the way, 6 new SU-34s arrived in Khmeimim. We recall that it was stated about the number of damaged roofing felts, roofing felts destroyed SU-24. It was said about supposedly 7. The number is almost the same, is not it? Encourages certain thoughts.
The arguments that the new SU-34 there "just" Arrived do not sound convincing, as stated on the further gradual withdrawal of technology. Photos of the downed Drones, by the way, are in the VK in the Military Informant group.

Which "just like that; ..?
Until the arrogant Saxons from Syria are removed, peace will not be there. It’s not for this that we were engaged in clearing for two years to leave Syria and Assad without support, while the States and Izrail do everything in their power, so as not to wash with Katyn, to remove the Assad regime, and hence the Iranian troops from Syria .
The first phase of the war ended, but the next one began immediately ... More than one of our squadrons will arrive in Syria ...
See at the root, dear. Everything basic and heavy is just beginning ...

[tchoni]

A certain group called the “Free Alawite Movement” appeared in the network, in which the allegedly destroyed military equipment of the Russian Armed Forces began to be listed. In particular, it is declared about “damage or destruction of S-400 air defense systems”.

But after the antics of the RF Ministry of Defense, 4 days of information about the attack that didn’t give, there will be people who will believe these “Alavites”.

[Dreamboat]

There are enough of them here. Believe any rubbish, if only against Russia

[passerby5]

here you are 100 times right. why are they silent? in the best traditions of the USSR ... but what? there was nothing ... or are they thinking how to get dirty and the hanged orders and stars did not tear off?

[Herculesic]

But at least they honestly said about this attack, and then when they already wrote about it in social networks! Something needs to be urgently done, otherwise such attacks will become massive and permanent.

[Monarchist]

However, they are greyhounds, which is called not childishly. On New Year's Eve, the mortars were dragged and let's fire, and now we attacked in liters. And what is curious: ALL AIRBASES and “Khmeimim” are no exception, they are BUILDING in the rear, where they WILL NOT attack. Mortar in your pocket or under the hollow you can’t hide. And the reservation, no matter how artisanal it is, but it must be collected and not everyone has it in sight

[VAGNER]

Now such messages will flow, elections will soon .. So we are observing, analyzing and without panic!

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: VAGNER

Now such messages will flow, elections will soon .. So we are observing, analyzing and without panic!

And where is the election? The attack on the Khmeimim air base with mortars is clearly in no way connected with the election of the President of the Russian Federation. The patriots launched this bike already on the network in order to somehow justify what happened, they say they spread fakes on the network, but in fact everything is fine! but as events show, and not everything is as rosy as the defense ministry describes. And about what needs to be analyzed without panic, I agree with you.

[gig334]

Aleksandr21, of course, the attack is not connected, the exaggeration from this attack is connected, because it was not the terrorists who did it, but internal enemies.

[VAGNER]

Quote: Aleksandr21

And where is the election?

The technology is old and what surprises you .. so?

Quote: Aleksandr21

The patriots launched this bike already on the network in order to somehow justify what happened, they say they spread fakes on the network, but in fact everything is fine!

And you would like everyone to start whining and mocking about the fact that they had announced about the ragrom of devils in Syria (it is) and here you go ..)))

Quote: Aleksandr21

And about what needs to be analyzed without panic, I agree with you.

Let's do just that, because such provocations are precisely howling and screaming are calculated against Russia! The base of Russia in Syria has been and will be and the General Staff will draw the appropriate conclusions and activities .. Everything will be fine!

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: VAGNER

The technology is old and what surprises you .. so?

I am surprised by the fact that the events with the attack of the Khmeimim air base are trying to somehow connect with the elections and draw a parallel that they are connected. If you go this way, you can come up with a lot of things .... therefore, do not interfere with everything in one heap.

Quote: VAGNER

And you would like everyone to start whining and mocking about the fact that they had announced about the ragrom of devils in Syria (it is) and here you go ..)))

I wouldn’t want anything at all, the speech in this phrase is ".. they spread the fakes on the network, but in reality everything is fine! But as events show, and not everything is as rosy as the defense ministry describes." about other. Namely, that the information coming to us from the Ministry of Defense is not the ultimate truth, and we need to analyze all the sources and look at the fact who is not telling where, or riveting fakes. And our patriots are trying so hard to prove that everything is fine with us, that sometimes they can not objectively evaluate the events and look from different points of view.

Quote: VAGNER

Let's do just that, because such provocations are precisely howling and screaming are calculated against Russia! The base of Russia in Syria has been and will be and the General Staff will draw the appropriate conclusions and activities .. Everything will be fine!

Yes, no one doubts this, that 7 planes were destroyed, and in this article about the damage to the S-400, they are definitely fakes by terrorists who want to exaggerate their achievements. But our Ministry of Defense is also telling the truth, but not to the end :) the fact that the militants circumvented our defense and got to the base is a fact, it is officially stated that 2 of our servicemen were killed, but not a word about the wounded, although sources in Kommersant said at least 10 the wounded. Then there was news about the “Il-76MD Scalpel-MT flying military hospital noticed in the sky in the region of the Syrian city of Latakia,” the photo was published on January 3, which already leads to certain thoughts. As for the photos about our damaged planes, there are also many inconsistencies, but here, due to lack of information, this is a matter of faith, whether or not it was. Personally, I fully admit that our aircraft were damaged by shelling from mortars, especially since they are on an open area and are not protected to the extent that they could have been. And how severe the damage to the aircraft is the big question. Look above in the comments, there is infa about the arrival of 6 - Su 34, for the place of the Su-24, if this is true then certain conclusions can also be drawn. In general, as they say, what happened has already happened and we need to move on.

[Muvka]

I specifically looked at the entire history of Flightradar24 for January 3. Not a single plane approached our base. Here are the 4 numbers, yes, the cargo IL-76 flew up. There was no scalpel.

[Aleksandr21]

This is a January 3 photo published by photographer Ahmad Alfarvi. Seen earlier it means it landed, the news quickly spread in the media.

But no, it didn’t land:

"" The Russian military transport Il-76 could not land at the Khmeimim base in Syria. This was reported by the Telegram channel Directorate 4, which is engaged in a review of the activities of terrorists, with reference to information from airspotters.

It is clarified that we are talking about the IL-76MD 223rd flight detachment, departed from the military airfield Chkalovsky in the Moscow region. The plane proceeded through the airspace of Turkey, circled around the air base in Hmeimim, and turned northward toward Russia. He later landed at Anapa Airport (Sochi).

This information is confirmed by the Flightradar24 portal.

The reason for such a maneuver is unknown, but may be related to the shelling of the base by fighters on December 31, Directorate 4 clarifies. ""

[Muvka]

Which picture? Where? And the fact that the shelling was 31, but the plane could not land on the 4th, doesn’t it bother you? Our military for 4 days could not determine whether the strip is suitable for landing or not? Seriously? And the fact that there was a breeze on the 4th day, and with serious gusts, doesn’t it tell you anything? This is not my data, but one colleague from Israel wrote. And they are not far there.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Muvka

Which picture? Where? And the fact that the shelling was 31, but the plane could not land on the 4th, doesn’t it bother you? Our military for 4 days could not determine whether the strip is suitable for landing or not? Seriously? And the fact that there was a breeze on the 4th day, and with serious gusts, doesn’t it tell you anything? This is not my data, but one colleague from Israel wrote. And they are not far there.

You directly bombarded me with questions, is this such a tactic of denial, or an attempt by an interlocutor to knock off the topic? A snapshot can be easily found on the Internet, published by photographer Ahmad Alfarvi, know how to use the search? I’ll give you a hint, there’s a direct link to the photographer’s VK on this tape. Yes, the point here is not even in the picture itself, but in the information that the Il-76MD plane of the 223rd flight detachment flew to Syria and could not land, many news agencies published, referring to Directorate 4. Personally, this incident does not affect me. why you react so sharply to this and try to challenge is a mystery to me.

[Muvka]

I just brought you the facts. Do you disagree with them? Refute. Especially the main one - why the shelling of the base was on the 31st, and the plane could not land 4. How could it be that our military, located at the base, could not understand whether the runway was destroyed or not in 4 !!!! days? Just tell me, is this possible? And if so, tell me how.

[Aleksandr21]

What exactly facts do you want from me? I can only assume, and you are essentially the same, unless of course you are directly on the airbase of Khmeimim and you are not an eyewitness to the events. Why exactly was the shelling on the 31st this need to be learned from the terrorists, or their curators. By plane ..... maybe the strip in some places was really damaged (not destroyed, namely damaged) and decided not to land the board, or there was a danger to the side, I personally do not know .... only the commander of this aircraft can know and directly those who gave such orders. The photo as I looked right now (while talking with you) really dates back to something like 2016, but the information that the Il-76MD 223 flight detachment was confirmed by information from airspotters found the following screenshot on the network: https: // ic .pics.livejournal.com / el_murid / 16552936
/569091/569091_original.jpg
I can not vouch for reliability. But if the information that the Il-76MD Scalpel-MT aircraft could not land, but simply circled and returned, is true, then it looks very strange.

[Muvka]

So why was it reported that the plane could not be landed only when this same plane arrived, and not before its departure from Moscow? Your version?

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Muvka

So why was it reported that the plane could not be landed only when this same plane arrived, and not before its departure from Moscow? Your version?

Perhaps there were fears that there was a danger for the landing of this side, immediately upon the arrival of IL-76MD in Syria, who knows how the situation in Latakia itself with the militants actually is, since they had directly approached our base and opened fire from mortars, a couple months ago it would be considered fiction, now it is a fact. Yes, and disturbing news comes from Syria, today I saw that there is information about the death of another 2 brigadier generals in Syria, to those 3 that already were, and this is only 8 days! So everything is not easy there .... there is still a version that the strip in some places after the shelling was damaged, and they did not completely eliminate the consequences of the shelling, they thought they would land but decided not to risk it, why didn’t they know that in Moscow? Well xs, we have said a lot, but in fact it happens in different ways. About 3-4 months ago, I looked at the Star about the defense of the base, about the defense rings (Syrians, we, etc.), roadblocks, a group that is directly involved in guarding the base .... but you see how it turned out in the end. Although the version with the damaged strip is weak, but it has its own chances of life) maybe there was something else ....

In any case, the fact that the plane did not land is very strange.

[Muvka]

Strange your excuses. How can you first understand that the strip is suitable for landing, then, upon arrival, forbid landing and send the plane back, and the next day land the An-26, load it with gifts and send it to Damascus. Those. you will not consider the weather version in any case? Confidence that the strip is bombed by you 100% I? If so, we have nothing to talk about with you, Russophobe.
I'm certainly not sure that this will help you, but take a look at the weather forecast for Latakia on January 4, 2018.
Here is a reference for you. I’ll tell you a secret, in my Vichug I’ve never seen 6 drops with a thunderstorm. Not more than 4x.
https://www.gismeteo.ru/weather-ladhiqiyah-5380/m
onth /

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Muvka

Strange your excuses. How can you first understand that the strip is suitable for landing, then, upon arrival, forbid landing and send the plane back, and the next day land the An-26, load it with gifts and send it to Damascus. Those. you will not consider the weather version in any case? Confidence that the strip is bombed by you 100% I? If so, we have nothing to talk about with you, Russophobe.

Well, it starts, they themselves asked for the version, I wrote .... and now you are accusing Russophobia. The fact that I did not bring other versions, this does not mean that they are not there, who knows, maybe the weather version is the reason why the board did not board .... do you know what the difference is between our positions? I am a patriot, but I can calmly look at various options, and I can assume that ours suffered losses in the attack on Khmeimim on December 31, much more than was officially announced. And you only adhere to the position that everything is fine with us, and we are invincible, there are no losses (s) this is commendable from the point of view of patriotism, but the reality is very different from how the media presents it to us, there is a war in Syria and both sides suffer losses as in any other war.

[Muvka]

Repeat

I'm certainly not sure that this will help you, but take a look at the weather forecast for Latakia on January 4, 2018.
Here is a reference for you. I’ll tell you a secret, in my Vichug I’ve never seen 6 drops with a thunderstorm. Not more than 4x.
https://www.gismeteo.ru/weather-ladhiqiyah-5380/m
onth /

Just answer, how likely is the weather version? And I don’t need anything else. Naturally take a look at the link.

[Aleksandr21]

I’m not a weather expert, on the link for January 4 I see +15, and a thunderstorm + rain icon. If the weather was bad, then everything is possible, according to flightradar24, I only see that it is winding circles (according to history).

Do you have a video / photo for January 4 on the weather in Latakia, with thunderstorms? Where are the facts? :) what if your weather forecast is wrong? and weather conditions allowed to land there? The most interesting thing is that a couple of posts above, you could not even find this plane, and now you are convinced that it was the weather conditions that caused it to not sit down. But okay, to be honest, I don’t care about the version and the post from which the phrase about another was taken out :)

[Muvka]

I am not a specialist either, but the fact that there is terrible rain and thunderstorm implies that there was a very strong wind. One commentator from Israel wrote that there was wind with gusts of up to 100km / h. And yes, the winding circles in bad weather. Exactly. It’s good that you understood that. If the strip is broken, why go on the second run?

[Don]

Was it really terrible rain? if even a comrade from Israel counted up to 100 km per hour, then in Syria there were clearly all 200-300, no less, do not even try to argue, otherwise you. movie, russophobe, traitor, navalnenok, fifth column and hell knows what a scary person

[VAGNER]

Quote: Aleksandr21

In general, as they say, what happened has already happened and we need to move on.

Accepted ... And yet you need to be calm, take it all! My advice..

[Aleksandr21]

Yes, I also think so, I hope that our people will draw the right conclusions and fill in the gaps in the defense of the base, so that the next time the terrorists could not do this.

[VAGNER]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Yes, I also think so, I hope that our people will draw the right conclusions and fill in the gaps in the defense of the base, so that the next time the terrorists could not do this.

Well, I’ll answer you with Pushkin’s classics ...
"And experience, the son of difficult mistakes and the genius of enlightenment spirit .."
The Russians are still inventors, they only dream of peace ..

[Sidel45]

It seems that once again they hurried with the victory over ISIS ...

[s.vitalik2014]

And all drones are delivered to illegal US bases in the SAR. And the group Free ALLAVITS is just blacks wrapped in scarves. So maybe it is worth pointing out to black slaves their rightful place in history and bombing all these American bases ???

[Viktor.12.71]

Wooden drones with bombs from plastic bottles collected from improvised debris, here the Americans are obviously involved.

[seal78]

Another fake, like about 7 planes earlier) We reason logically: if they (the militants) are so brave and invulnerable that they can attack Khmeimim at any time they like, then why didn’t they do this before, when they were much stronger than now , and when it was much more relevant (after all, having destroyed VKS aircraft many of them would have lived longer)?

[Don]

stop the panic, you are clearly Russophobe and an adherent of the bulk GDP told you that he defeated the terrorists, which means they are not there. and everyone who talks about losses, rising prices, falling living standards, etc. - "enemies" of the enemies of the motherland!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Donskoy

GDP told you that he defeated the terrorists, which means they are not there. and everyone who talks about losses, rising prices, falling living standards, etc. - "enemies" of enemies of the motherland

Firstly - out of place (are you generally trying to comment on what you are reading?).
Secondly - fat

[Don]

ridiculed, miserable holum, do you sometimes read your own squalor? and for what you are paid, losers

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Donskoy

... miserable holum ...

А holum - this who? And why is he miserable?

Quote: Donskoy

and what you get paid for

To me? I would explain, but you do not know such words ...

[Vard]

In war ... As in war ... In the east there is such a thing as tribes ... One of these tribes lives a very long time ago the Damsk clan ... With wives, children and other cattle ... They shoot around the city for MONEY and you can’t get them out anyway .. They’re local .... And so everywhere in Syria ...

[VAGNER]

Quote: Vard

They shoot around the city for MONEY and you can’t get them out anyway .. They are local .... And so everywhere in Syria ...

Speak the truth ..! The East is a delicate matter and Russia has a great experience, I think the Russians will cope, as always.!

[donavi49]

In Damascus itself, a large group of broads if that. They hold several districts in the south and east of the city. And they cannot be picked out from there - without big sacrifices. For those to whom the Assad is not nice flocked to the areas of the Bakhs with 2014, and from there those who were not nice to the Babahs actually fled. In the Duma (100% is controlled by broads) and now 30-40k the world’s living lives under the pre-war 100k.

[Incvizitor]

Well if all

those to whom the Babahs fled are not nice.

then only those who were nice stayed there? So it’s easy to level the MLRS with the ground and there is aviation, burn everything and forget.

[Don]

so go ahead !!! get on a plane, cram more cargo into the cargo compartment ... as you strike at the bad people that prevent you from living good, and there will be happiness around the world

[ROM1077]

and where did the shell look? an ordinary shilka would handle here

[donavi49]

A penny quad with Ali is a pretty big problem. And in Iraq, they were able to be controlled only after the cessation of resistance on the ground (that is, when the Islamic State switched to a nomadic way of life in the desert).

[Scoun]

Quote: donavi49

A penny quad with Ali is a pretty big problem. And in Iraq, they were able to be controlled only after the cessation of resistance on the ground (that is, when the Islamic State switched to a nomadic way of life in the desert).

Well, the video has almost perfect conditions, but still.

[donavi49]

1) Detection.
2) Asking what is it? Maybe this is a mistake. Maybe it's his quadric, examines the base sector. Maybe this is the quadric of the Syrian army, for the same purpose, are the Baboons selected? This is a cheap and efficient machine. And the Syrians use it no less than the women. Or maybe this Star is filming a report.
3) Destruction. In order not to hurt their own, for example, on a hill, which way will fly. Or don’t cover the neighboring village. Perhaps you need to overtake the car for safer shelling.

In short, in reality - it is very difficult to counter.

[Muvka]

Yes, not the fact that the Carapace could not cope. There are messages only from the broads. And to believe them is not entirely correct.

[flicker]

None of the local successes of the terrorists: the village was repulsed, 5 people were captured, shelling from mortars, the spread of fakes, etc. - can not refute the fact that the Shtatovskiy (and their BV allies) project "terrorist Islamic state" ordered a long life.
The successes of the Syrian army directly testify to this, and Trump indirectly confirmed this, declaring the victory of the states over the igil.
Well, some people really want to throw a stone at the Russian garden, they are ready to cling and poke a finger at any even the microscopic success of terrorists.

[Viktor.12.71]

It is all a matter of different views. From 2014-2015, the United States saved the Kurds from the Isis, the Kurds in 2017 defeated the Isis with the help of the Americans. Also, Russia saved Assad, defeated Isis in government-controlled territories. Everyone has their own victory.

[flicker]

A project called igil (and this is precisely a project - i.e., man-made) was conceived and created not to fight the Kurds, but to fight Assad, wider with Iran, even wider with Russia, even wider to establish a new world order - and so this project crashed, although various terrorists will run for a long time, but there is already NO project as an effective political tool (then another may appear), but this business could not be carried out.
Putin spoke of this victory, and Trump later indirectly recognized this (and the Kurds have nothing to do with it).

[Seraphimamur]

When will VO administrators stop publishing fake content from unverified sources? Do they really not understand that by doing so they damage their reputation.

[bald]

And the next time, some kind of typewriter clogged with explosives will roll up, this was in Chechnya - even with a suicide bomber - even without it. Concrete slabs are needed not only on the entrance road, but also on the perimeter
.

[donavi49]

And we also need to adopt the American experience. This is a real working passive protection. Which by the way, takes up a minimum of space.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3037926.html

[bald]

Interesting link - thanks. If we don’t want to lose and are going to stay there (and it’s decided), then something similar must be done. Expensive - so what - necessary.

[1959ain]

Quote: donavi49

And we also need to adopt the American experience. This is a real working passive protection. Which by the way, takes up a minimum of space.

Catastrophic fire in an open parking lot of US Air Force aircraft at Bienhua Air Force Base near Saigon 16.05.1965 (c) US Air Force

[Wolka]

however, propaganda is doing its job, but no one has canceled the organizational conclusions ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Spez

"War cannot be avoided, it can only be delayed - to the benefit of your adversary" (c) Machiavelli

At the time of Machiavelli there was definitely no Internet, EWs and other ... drones.
And, characteristically, there was no USA
Now a “war” is not necessarily a “bang-bang”, a good throw and the Internet is well worth a good carpet bombardment (at the time of Machiavelli, by the way, there were none ...).
The war, IMHO, has been going on for a long time, they just did not notify you ...
PS: and the Internet, unfiltered is evil. As, however, and the United States

[Golovan Jack]

UPD:
Drones, judging by the article, are "primitive." So their management is also primitive, no?
Which, to the crows, armor ?? Where is the EW, yeti mother?
In general, as a colleague from Israel correctly said (we discussed this with him, ahem, at night) -

Quote: Oleg7700

Arabs are famous storytellers ...

That's it
PS: to avoid ... inconsistencies:
* Yeti - Bigfoot
* mother is one of the closest relatives

[shura7782]

No matter how guarded the airfield, now the shelling will be regular. It is very strange that they were not there before. Judging by the picture, this airfield is a convenient target for shelling. In Afghanistan, spirits were set up by the Nurses near our remote posts, from where they bombarded Bagram air base for several hours. At night from the air it looked as if the shelling was conducted from our post. Also at night, nurses were installed on stones, a battery and a can of water. In the heat, the water in the bank dries up, the contacts close and the rocket goes. This is how simple everything was arranged. Our turntables harvested this crop in the morning. Soon, industrial drones will come to replace homemade products. So that the war is just beginning for us.

[Glory1974]

Yes, probably it was necessary to do at least bulk shelters from shelling. Or, according to the experience of the Americans, making walls of railway containers in place, filling them with sand. They did checkpoints in Afghanistan this way.
In general, according to the experience of military operations in Chechnya, a security zone should be created around the base. As a rule, the inner circle of 500 meters is controlled by infantry units by setting up military guard posts. Further, the 1000-1500 meter zone is controlled by special units by setting secrets, ambushes, barriers, etc. The far zone is controlled by checkpoints, company and platoon strongpoints and special forces. At the air base, besides this, the glide path should also be controlled.
In the case of shelling, even if the enemy’s drift was fired, no one should leave. With drones, of course, it’s more difficult, but there are control tools, experience must be gained.

[Dreamboat]

Have you seen reports from Khmeimim? There are 4 films on the Star. So there everything that you listed is only several times cooler and more.
There is no defense only from trolls in the social. networks ....

[Glory1974]

You didn’t penetrate into the defense of Khmeimim, but what you described certainly should be present, here you are right. But if the enemy still fires, then somewhere there are flaws.
As experience shows, you cannot be equally strong everywhere. At this stage, the enemies decided to focus their efforts on shelling our base, and we urgently needed to not only strengthen the guard, but also actively counteract on distant approaches.

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: vovanpain

JOHN MCCAIN In Washington, the prominent United States Senate Senator John McCain (John Sydney McCain III) died in Washington at the age of 82, reports Associated Press. He died in his sleep on Saturday, January 6, 2018. The President of the United States expressed his support for the senator’s family and friends, noting John McCain’s enormous contribution to promoting democracy around the world. John McCain served as Chairman of the Republican Armed Forces Senate Committee. John McCain graduated from the US Naval Academy in 1958, becoming carrier-based flight pilot. He was a veteran of the Vietnam War. He was shot down by a Soviet missile over Hanoi in 1967, spent five and a half years in Vietnamese captivity, and was released in 1973 under the terms of the Paris Agreement. In 1981, McCain resigned from military service, and in 1982 was elected to the US House of Representatives from The Republican Party. In 1986, he was elected a senator from Arizona, was re-elected four times - in 1992, 1998, 2004 and 2010. In 2000, he tried to run for president of the United States from the Republican Party, but lost to George W. Bush in the party elections. In 2008, he was a candidate to the US presidency from Republicans (then-incumbent president George W. Bush provided official support to McCain), but lost the election to Democratic candidate

They say: on New Year's
Whatever you wish -
Everything will always happen
Everything always comes true

[Grits]

Urgently change your nickname to Wang. With such a forecast, simply Lena Petrova is not relevant

[Zomanus]

Well, now our military experts will begin to scratch themselves and solve the problem.
Maybe the defense industry will come up with really effective
methods for detecting and destroying drones.

[rotmistr60]

I read the comments. How much on the eve of the election dirty tricks registered on the site. Liberoids, calm down and do not create foam - you still will not.

[q75agent]

Quote: rotmistr60

I read the comments. How much on the eve of the election dirty tricks registered on the site. Liberoids, calm down and do not create foam - you still will not.

Yes, do not worry, another 6 years will be your beloved power in the West and not only kicking everyone who is not lazy, but she (the power) will express deep concern and you have to angrily shake the fists from the sofa

[Dreamboat]

.... and quietly modernize the army, crush the "baboons" in the deserts, restore the factories sold "more liberal" for scrap metal ... all this will be!

[Prutkov]

The whole drone story is freeing its hands against the Americans. They also provide their bases in Syria with the help of aviation. So I won’t be surprised if anything on the American base catches fire.

[Sergeant71]

Quote: Muvka

And when did 6 Su-34s arrive in Khmeimim? Share a link to the news. Very interesting to read.

The source indicated. VK Group Military informant. I didn’t give a direct link, or else the admins will think that I’m a third-party PR resource.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Sergeant71

The source indicated. VK group Military informant

Pancake, WHERE CONS??

Quote: Sergeant71

I didn’t give a direct link ...

And in vain did not give.
This "informant" is another fake player, and for some reason you build your "conclusions" on him

 Here is the link, you can laugh

https://twitter.com/badly_xeroxed/status/94973076
8959541249

There's also (just below) a video about the “attack on Khmeimim” tonight. From the series "night, dark, and blacks coal ... loaded."
A very compelling resource

[Prisoner]

Sheep tasted. Impunity corrupts. Therefore, a serious response is required not by the advertising bearded erysipelas, but by the star-striped interior itself.

[Sergeant71]

Quote: glory1974

Yes, probably it was necessary to do at least bulk shelters from shelling. Or, according to the experience of the Americans, making walls of railway containers in place, filling them with sand. They did checkpoints in Afghanistan this way.
In general, according to the experience of military operations in Chechnya, a security zone should be created around the base. As a rule, the inner circle of 500 meters is controlled by infantry units by setting up military guard posts. Further, the 1000-1500 meter zone is controlled by special units by setting secrets, ambushes, barriers, etc. The far zone is controlled by checkpoints, company and platoon strongpoints and special forces. At the air base, besides this, the glide path should also be controlled.
In the case of shelling, even if the enemy’s drift was fired, no one should leave. With drones, of course, it’s more difficult, but there are control tools, experience must be gained.

Then you have to group there, how to keep in Afghanistan, if with all the precautions and security circles. And we won’t go for political and financial reasons. We also do not forget that Tartus will expand, and this is also additional means and forces.

[Sergeant71]

Quote: cedar

Quote: Sergeant71

By the way, 6 new SU-34s arrived in Khmeimim. We recall that it was stated about the number of damaged roofing felts, roofing felts destroyed SU-24. It was said about supposedly 7. The number is almost the same, is not it? Encourages certain thoughts.
The arguments that the new SU-34 there "just" Arrived do not sound convincing, as stated on the further gradual withdrawal of technology. Photos of the downed Drones, by the way, are in the VK in the Military Informant group.

Which "just like that; ..?
Until the arrogant Saxons from Syria are removed, peace will not be there. It’s not for this that we were engaged in clearing for two years to leave Syria and Assad without support, while the States and Izrail do everything in their power, so as not to wash with Katyn, to remove the Assad regime, and hence the Iranian troops from Syria .
The first phase of the war ended, but the next one began immediately ... More than one of our squadrons will arrive in Syria ...
See at the root, dear. Everything basic and heavy is just beginning ...

Such. You sometimes listen at least, dear, that the Supreme Commander spoke before the New Year. He spoke of the withdrawal of troops, and not of the arrival of new squadrons. You are already broadcasting your dreams. All the main and difficult ended after the capture of the 2 millionth Aleppo and the strategically important Deyzor. Everything else is already partisanism, which local people must deal with. And if they themselves can’t cope with our massive financial support, then such an army and the regime as a whole are worthless. And if you want “new squadrons” and, accordingly, our new victims, uncover your combat sofa in the south direction or send your children as volunteers.

[groks]

Somehow I don’t care at all - the locals will cope or not. The pipe from Qatar must be Gazprom's. If she would be a stranger, then all this mess was useless. And the losses of our military were senseless. Moreover, refusals from all "flows" will go.

[earloop]

How not to recall the words from the smash hit of Vladimir Semenovich Vysotsky! - They say that: "they build a city under the ground, they say, in case of an atomic war"; "spies, bastards, poisoned the water with poison;" bread is baked from fish scales. "

[saveall]

We are apparently trying to arrange Afghanistan 2 ... Soon, an informational wave will go on this.
I just can’t understand, why wouldn’t we arrange and show Vietnam 2 again? How much can you do?

[gig334]

Quote: Sergeant71

Quote: cedar

Quote: Sergeant71

By the way, 6 new SU-34s arrived in Khmeimim. We recall that it was stated about the number of damaged roofing felts, roofing felts destroyed SU-24. It was said about supposedly 7. The number is almost the same, is not it? Encourages certain thoughts.
The arguments that the new SU-34 there "just" Arrived do not sound convincing, as stated on the further gradual withdrawal of technology. Photos of the downed Drones, by the way, are in the VK in the Military Informant group.

Which "just like that; ..?
Until the arrogant Saxons from Syria are removed, peace will not be there. It’s not for this that we were engaged in clearing for two years to leave Syria and Assad without support, while the States and Izrail do everything in their power, so as not to wash with Katyn, to remove the Assad regime, and hence the Iranian troops from Syria .
The first phase of the war ended, but the next one began immediately ... More than one of our squadrons will arrive in Syria ...
See at the root, dear. Everything basic and heavy is just beginning ...

Such. You sometimes listen at least, dear, that the Supreme Commander spoke before the New Year. He spoke of the withdrawal of troops, and not of the arrival of new squadrons. You are already broadcasting your dreams. All the main and difficult ended after the capture of the 2 millionth Aleppo and the strategically important Deyzor. Everything else is already partisanism, which local people must deal with. And if they themselves can’t cope with our massive financial support, then such an army and the regime as a whole are worthless. And if you want “new squadrons” and, accordingly, our new victims, uncover your combat sofa in the south direction or send your children as volunteers.

Stop whining and create a panic. Putin warned that the militants will harm for a long time, and that if they again gain strength, our air forces and so on will be reinforced again. We are forced to fight there for several reasons, 1 economic interests, 2 we won’t stop them in Syria, I’m talking about terrorists, we’ll already fight them at our borders.

[Jack]

To yours: "... We are forced to fight there for several reasons, 1 economic interests, 2 we will not stop them in Syria, I'm talking about terrorists, we will already fight with them at our borders ..." ******** ****
- With “economic interests” - the forcing of 4 branches of the Turkish Stream did not grow back in 2015, after the Turks shot down a Russian plane and the main goal of the campaign - access to the Turkish border was buried ...
And then there was only work on the catch from the USA to squeeze out a non-systemic Syrian player - IS, including closer to the Russian borders ...

[Jack]

There is nothing surprising - Russian men with guns failed their task in Syria with a bang, but with honor worked for the interests of the United States.
And now they are gently pushing them out ... Iran is next ...

[koshmarik]

As you know, the militants were taken under their wing by the Yankees, who are illegally in Syria. I think that attacks on Khmeimim are beneficial to us in the first place because they give the right to an active and powerful response to the militants and their patrons. But let's see. That's just a pity for people.
As for the shelters. Here it’s not entirely clear to me. After all, any lieutenant knows that before dinner you need to shelter people and equipment. What considerations the management had was not entirely clear.

[groks]

Again, MORF is silent. If these messages are considered reality, it turns out that the Russian base is being squeezed out of Syria. And squeeze out successfully.
Well, it’s quite clear that the words about the defeated ISIS do not correspond to reality.

[Muvka]

Eh, I don’t even want to argue. Just scatter your message. Let's see how they squeeze us out. In a year I’ll stick it in your nose if you’ll be on the forum.

[Dreamboat]

In a year he will be gone. Here the tactics are: you register 30 accounts, carry complete nonsense, support yourself. .. and then when the grandmas give out for this - you buy a ticket for them “wash the toilet in Poland” or “build stadiums in Russia”.

[Assyrian]

Quote: groks

If these messages are considered reality, it turns out that the Russian base is being squeezed out of Syria. And squeeze out successfully.
Well, it’s quite clear that the words about the defeated ISIS do not correspond to reality.

You want to say that we will collapse the base due to self-made drones or shelling? Not a serious approach.
As well as Russia, from outside the base can not be taken. Either by negligence or by drunk, we can harm ourselves, but we can’t take it from the outside.

[groks]

I want to say that the database itself is not needed there. I need a pipe. The pipe should be Gazprom. Then we will get crumbs from the tables of the oligarchs.

[flicker]

Whatever it was, but: a project called igil was conceived and created to fight Assad, wider with Iran, even wider with Russia, even wider to establish a new world order - so this project crashed, and the terrorists and their sponsors can at least take a fuck or take some sort of shed by storm, but here's a project as an effective political tool not anymore (it will be different or it will not be a question of the future), but this project was blown away.
This was what Putin said, a little later Trump was forced to admit.
And the base of course needs to be strengthened. And they will certainly strengthen it.

[Zina389]

The profession of a terrorist is not to fight, but to intimidate with notable actions. In battle, they are weak, and even stupid for them to engage in open battle. It was clear that they would lose sooner or later. And now they have returned to their original activities, so to speak. We need to think about how to deal specifically with terrorist activities in Syria.

[Jack]

To yours: "... In battle they (terrorists) are weak ..." *************************
- Where are they to the valiant warriors of Zion, packs throwing with bundles of grenades under the tanks! ...

[Jack]

For the sake of objectivity, fleeing from these "weak terrorists", not having eaten up borsch and losing packs of warrior credit cards on the run, you can look in other places ...

[Jack]

To yours: "... We need to think about how to deal specifically with terrorist activities in Syria ..." **************
- Just like everywhere else: Create normal living conditions for people and eradicate social inequality!

[groks]

There was only one country in history that twice won the fight against partisans. And she did not do it with "Caliber." So there’s nothing to think, everything has been invented for a long time (s).

[Kirill750]

the question is "WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR"?

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Marten

For the third time, there may not be any aircraft left.

earlier terrorists will end

[q75agent]

Quote: voyaka uh

Usually, we publish pictures with aircraft damage only
after few years. But publish. For example, a photo of the F-15, which landed with a flipped engine, into the nozzle of which a Syrian explosive rocket flew in 1982, was published many years later. And the aircraft was commissioned in year 3.

and not you, and many of your colleagues from Izrail with foam at the mouth claimed that if everything at you would pop up immediately ... I remember discussions about the strike of the Syrians from the S-200 on your flyers, when there was infa that the plane and the UAV were shot down and another one was damaged either in the summer or in September, and with the bird and f -35 it means not everything is clear ....

[voyaka uh]

If there are killed or wounded in the incident, it is mandatory to report
immediately, the maximum - the next day. If only the equipment is damaged -
without affected people, there may be delays in publications.

[q75agent]

Quote: voyaka uh

If there are killed or wounded in the incident, it is mandatory to report
immediately, the maximum - the next day. If only the equipment is damaged -
without affected people, there may be delays in publications.

then the glory of Syria’s air defense turns out

[Assyrian]

The feeling that the base "Khmeimim" is in Armavir, go for a walk along the runway. Even if a small part of this news is true, the base management needs to move its horn. How much can you hear about "maybe"?

[Old26]

Quote: VAGNER

The base of Russia in Syria has been and will be and the General Staff will draw the appropriate conclusions and activities .. Everything will be fine!

The base is and will be. Perhaps they will draw conclusions at the General Staff. It would be good if it weren’t for the “punishment of the innocent and rewarding the uninjured” scheme. What will be normal - I would not want to act as a prophet, but hardly. Shelling of the base will continue. Whether from mortars, from NURSs or with the help of drones - but to continue. Once again we got into a conflict in a Muslim country and hoping that we all will be perceived as friends and liberators is not worth it. Okay, let’s leave the religious and other details outside the brackets. There will always be those who will do another action against the Russian air base. Moreover, there are all conditions for this.

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Well, in theory, over 2 years, you can build reinforced concrete shelters.

Hardly. Hmeimim air base can be called a full-fledged air base, it can be purely arbitrary. It occupies approximately 1/5 of the northern part of Basil Al-Assad International Airport. Russian aircraft are, in principle, located at the airport parking lot, where the airliners arriving there should be logically. But those are usually located on the platform of the air terminal. There is nowhere to build reinforced concrete shelters there

Quote: Spartanez300

It’s not necessary to prepare shelters, but to work proactively and hard so that there would be no desire to attack our bases then, I think the next turn is for Tartus and it is not far off. But they see how Russia reacts to spitting in the face, wipes itself off and substitutes again, and that’s all from a cowardly policy, but how the United States does it without looking at what they say about you (more specifically, lay it down on everyone). Already before Russia looked back no one puts what.

And how are you going to work there proactively and hard? Settle residents of neighboring settlements and make around the airfield a zone of scorched earth with a radius of 10 kilometers? How?

Quote: Muvka

Yes, not the fact that the Carapace could not cope. There are messages only from the broads. And to believe them is not entirely correct.

It is possible that the shell could not cope. The Carapace radar can detect targets with an EPR of the order of 0,2-0,3 sq. m. It is unlikely that the drones of these barmalei have such an EPR. If this, as the board and the motor with the mine write, is probably much less. In addition, even assuming that the radar can detect, drones can approach at heights of 5-10 meters ...

[Muvka]

The BBC does not agree with you. Even an enemy propaganda publication writes that we intercepted all drones.

[turbris]

"On the Telegram channel Directorate 4, which is engaged in informational tracking of terrorist activity," - and who on this site of our ZVO puts this misinformation here? There is no signature of the authors, are they freelance correspondents for this channel? It seems to me that posting information without the author’s signature is generally not decent, for any site, and where are the moderators? Or are they doing anonymous stuffing of information on the site?

[Yugra]

Even if no damage is caused, the response to the mattresses must certainly arrive...

[seacap]

Why are they still alive? Why don’t our partners have any losses, why haven’t they paid with their hump and their beloved ass yet? What, we all won and now we’re celebrating? Where are the agents, where are the special forces, snipers and demolitions? Why the calibers with our apologies, and even better, first an apology, and then calibers on the runways of our partners, oh, sorry, we made a slight mistake? So will we wipe our snot and suffer unrequited losses? I remember, not so long ago, they were even afraid to think about throwing even a stone in our direction, let alone shoot, the relatives would immediately receive their head in a bag by mail. But here they became toothless, in the East this is impossible, this is weakness and lack of will, but there they don’t forgive this, which means it will be even worse, they will start shooting like partridges. And ours partners, until they wash themselves with blood and lose their teeth in the sand, will not calm down, they only understand strength and the same vile method of fighting, attrition and without any rules, it will not work with them in white gloves.

[Mentat]

Quote: xetai9977

But "the militants are destroyed, the war is over" - is this not a fake?

Please provide a source for the quote, you liar.

[Hadji Murat]

Looks like the s-1 shell worked well)

[Radical]

...could cause significant damage to military equipment located in the open air.

That’s what we’re talking about - more than a year ago it was discussed that the equipment stands tightly, wing to wing, and about the caponiers, which are not there, some people here wrote that they were expensive! I also replied that it was cheaper to build a caponier than a new plane.

[Radical]

Quote: seal78

Well, for sure, you're the smartest, and Putin is stupid. How, interestingly, did he manage to become president if he was so stupid?

Tell...?

[bukoed]

Doesn’t anyone realize that the attack on Khmeimim is informational? Everyone suddenly rushed to give advice that it was necessary to build shelters, otherwise no one would have known this without you. In fact, what damage was caused? Yes, none. First, seven planes were destroyed by mortars, then a makeshift drone destroys the S-400, and then a bunch of commentators appear shouting that they urgently need to build shelters. For what?

[Rock616]

Will anyone give a link or send photos/videos of the damaged planes?

[LeonidL]

Nobody will give it to airplanes because there is a photo of one damaged stabilizer and one hole with a trickle...

[LeonidL]

There is a photo of one “damaged” plane - but this is clearly not explosive damage!!! There are no fragmentation holes. Most likely this is a photo from a collision on the ground. In addition, there is no reference to the photo to the place and time, and they have already shown an aircraft with the same number during a flight on a combat mission. The second photo with the “hole” is very doubtful - a single round hole from a mine explosion??? Well, this is just funny! Most likely the correspondent fell for fakes. Moreover, there would be such smoke from the “screams and fires” of aircraft and ammunition depots that all Internet resources would be filled with photos of fires. But this is not the case.

[svp67]

Quote: LeonidL

There is a photo of one “damaged” plane

Well, here’s the thing, a plane with the same tail number was recently shown, not only intact, but also flying... Here the “break” begins, or is the photo really not from this coming, or the maintainability of the Su-24 is “cooler”, than the T-34

[bukoed]

Well, replacing the stabilizer probably doesn’t take much time. Although looking at this damage, one doubts that it is from mine fragments.

[svp67]

Quote: bukoed

Well, replacing the stabilizer probably won’t take much time

Even if that's the case. Then you first need to deliver it there, then carry out a FULL inspection and control of all systems, and this takes all the time and requires good specialists and equipment

[gig334]

Quote: svp67

Quote: LeonidL

There is a photo of one “damaged” plane

Well, here’s the thing, a plane with the same tail number was recently shown, not only intact, but also flying... Here the “break” begins, or is the photo really not from this coming, or the maintainability of the Su-24 is “cooler”, than the T-34

Photoshop works wonders, draw the number you want

[Lexxtech]

It is also advisable to draw the desired shape of the forehead below, and, most likely, replace the tented Urals with something more sane. And it would also be nice to have a panoramic view of the area with other objects...

[Mentat]

Quote: Jack

There is nothing surprising - Russian men with guns failed their task in Syria with a bang, but with honor worked for the interests of the United States.
And now they are gently pushing them out ... Iran is next ...

You change your main proxy more often, otherwise the FSB (the successor to the KGB) will cover you and drag you into the basements of Lubyanka (for your incredibly brilliant subversive activities on the VO website against the bloody Putin regime). You've already taken a sedative today, haven't you?

[Jack]

When the facts run out, those who are smarter fall silent... The rest get personal...

[Old26]

Quote: Muvka

The BBC does not agree with you. Even an enemy propaganda publication writes that we intercepted all drones.

Unmanned aerial vehicles (full-fledged ones) or those “homemade” ones that barmalei build?

In addition, I did not unequivocally claim that they could not intercept.

It is quite possible that the shell could not cope. The Pantsir radar can detect targets with EPR of the order 0,2-0,3 sq. m It is unlikely that the drones of these barmaleys have such an EPR. If it is, as they say on the board and the motor with the mine, it is probably much less. In addition, even if we assume that the radar can detect, drones can approach at altitudes of 5-10 meters...

But there are doubts. If something serious comes from the UAV, they can intercept it. If they are homemade, they may not be intercepted. The distance between the same S-400 positions and our aircraft stands is 300-800 meters from the nearest populated areas. Launch a couple of these homemade barmales with a mine on each of the nearest gardens - how long will it take to overcome these 300-800 meters at an altitude of 5-10 meters? In the same way, in the area of ​​the airport there are so many gardens and roads and paths that a car with a mortar in the back can appear, shoot in 2-3 minutes and pull it off. And to the spurs of the hills, where you can hide, there are 3-4 kilometers

[hezbola]

I can already hear the sound of falling stars from the shoulder straps onto the parquet... especially since the Russian Federation has had all the technologies for a long time, including radar on artillery and mortars, but they weren’t used, they weren’t installed, hangars and underground passages weren’t built in 3 years... so far no one has shot down the Su24 I didn’t think of sticking the air defenses out of the parquet until the airliner with 290 passengers was blown up, no one was itching to check the Egyptian airports, although they knew that Egypt was in ISIS.. Until they threw it out of the cornflower according to Khmeimim, none of the staff officers itched to take into account their own and other people’s experiences of past years..
After 70 years, Sofka’s gouging, mischief, and the habit of underestimating an enemy over 25 will not disappear.. Nothing can be done about Sofka’s stupid mentality..

[TOR2]

The Russian military prevented a drone attack on the Khmeimim airbase, the BBC reports, citing a statement by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
The drone attack was planned from Latakia in northwestern Syria. On Saturday, drones were shot down from the airbase. According to the monitoring group, the drones belonged to an “Islamic faction” operating in the area. The presence of casualties or any damage was not specified.

https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2018/0
1/07/747139-rossiiskie-voennie-sorvali-attaku-dron
ov-na-aviabazu-hmeimim

[FLOOD]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: freddyk

freddyk

freddyk, in Syria, in addition to the IG, there are still a lot of other barmaley.
This is just in case you are not in the know.

Quote: xetai9977

the militants are destroyed, the war is over

But this implies that destroyed ALL action movies.
This is not true, and therefore neither Gerasimov, nor Shoigu, nor Putin said this.
It said xetai9977.
He is wrong, which was indicated to him.
Supplements, objections, suggestions?

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The Islamic State (a banned terrorist group in the Russian Federation - approx. RG) is completely destroyed on both sides of the Euphrates in Syria. This was stated by the president to journalists in Nizhny Novgorod.
“Two hours ago, the Minister of Defense reported that operations on the eastern and western banks of the Euphrates were completed with the complete defeat of the terrorists,” said Vladimir Putin. https://www.rg.ru/2017/12/06/putin-zaiavil-
o-pobede-nad-terroristami-v-sirii.html

[FLOOD]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: xetai9977

But "the militants are destroyed, the war is over" - is this not a fake?

Fake. And the author (author - author - author) him - you...
Putin certainly didn’t say that. And Shoigu, too ... did not say.

Quote: xetai9977

Information is information - like it or not

And what is written on the fence is also “information”?

PUTIN DECLARED VICTORY IN SYRIA OVER ISIS ON BOTH BANK OF THE EUPHARTES
Publication date: December 06 2017, 19: 48

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Russian leader Vladimir Putin announced the defeat of the terrorist organization “Islamic State” on both banks of the Euphrates in Syria.http://inosmi.ru/video/20171211/240976739.h
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[FLOOD]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: freddyk

freddyk

freddyk, in Syria, in addition to the IG, there are still a lot of other barmaley.
This is just in case you are not in the know.

Quote: xetai9977

the militants are destroyed, the war is over

But this implies that destroyed ALL action movies.
This is not true, and therefore neither Gerasimov, nor Shoigu, nor Putin said this.
It said xetai9977.
He is wrong, which was indicated to him.
Supplements, objections, suggestions?

As Korrespondent.net reported, on December 11, Vladimir Putin arrived in Syria and announced the withdrawal of troops from this country. The Russian president declared “victory” in Syria and reminded the military that their “homeland is waiting.”

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: TUFAN

PUTIN ANNOUNCEED ABOUT VICTORY IN SYRIA OVER ISIS ON BOTH BANKS OF THE EUPHARTES

Find three differences:

Quote: xetai9977

BUT "the militants are destroyed, the war is over"Isn't this fake?

InoSmi, by the way, is not the best source. One-eyed people... um... okay, I won't say anything.
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Quote: TUFAN

As Korrespondent.net reported

And on the fence it’s even more interesting ...
Failure, in short.

[Lexxtech]

Maybe, maybe... It’s just not clear what kind of suit the guy in the photograph with the broken stabilizer is wearing, what kind of car is in the background with a tarpaulin awning, and who could photograph the “leaking” fuel from the plane from 4-5 meters away, with a bomb hanging under his belly. Probably a suicide bomber. Or is the airfield closer to Square...
And the pseudo info with photos comes from very “truthful” sources...

[Shahno]

Come on, forget it. Well, there were actual video and photo materials. Until the high negotiating parties resolve all the issues, nothing will happen. Any material can be challenged... But what happened, happened.

[tigoda]

Cool picture.
The sky over the desert was “overshadowed by low thunderclouds...” Nonsense!
Primitively, the liars “burned themselves out.”

[NordUral]

The time has come, and it’s fair to admit that the US soldiers have already brazenly and almost unashamedly entered into the fight against our guys. Without them, such a massive raid would be impossible.
And ours in Moscow, if there are still ours in the Kremlin, it’s time to sternly warn the US citizens that the birds of happiness may fly to them by accident.

[Edvid]

Quote: Edvid

Shooting cannons at flea targets is inefficient. For the "Shell" it is necessary to create a new ammunition, as against ducks: equip the cartridge with shot; when shot in the near field, the shot charge covers a large area, any small target will be shot down.

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About cartridges with shot - it is said only figuratively. To increase the firing range at small targets, the projectile must fly out in one piece, and at a certain distance from the target or from the gun, it must independently shoot a cloud of shrapnel, possibly with the addition of conductive dust (graphite...). There is something for designers to think about here. After all, it is desirable to automate the process of changing the detonation delay, and this will be a different, more advanced complex.

[Valery Saitov]

Like in the village there is all this information, someone doing something somehow. Just chatter.