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In Tallinn, allow the demolition of the memorial to Soviet sailors

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Estonian authorities have declared that they will not, in principle, oppose the demolition of the memorial to Soviet sailors in Tallinn. We are talking about the memorial complex Maarjamäe, located on one of the heights of the Estonian capital. Speaking on the TV program "Uudis +" on the radio station Vikerraadio, the possibility of demolishing the memorial was discussed by the Minister of Justice of Estonia Urmas Reinsalu.


Informational portal Delphi cites the statement of the head of the Estonian Ministry of Justice:
If they come to the conclusion that it is possible to remove elements of the Soviet era, then we need to think about it. The question is that the memorial is not dangerous, and if necessary, it will be necessary to concrete or demolish something.


According to Reinsalu, the city authorities of Tallinn could transfer the complex to the state. The idea is approximately the following: the memorial is supposedly in disrepair, and about one million euros is required for its repair and restoration. In order not to spend such funds from the city budget, the monument is transferred to the state property, and then the authorities of the country decide to dismantle it.

At the same time, Reinsalu said that for him no historical there is no value in the complex.

In Tallinn, allow the demolition of the memorial to Soviet sailors


It must be recalled that from 2012 to 2014, Urmas Reinsalu served as Minister of Defense of Estonia. Being in this position, he repeatedly expressed gratitude to the Estonian SS veterans, saying that “these people helped Estonia to maintain self-identity at one time”.

For reference: Maaryamäe - “Maryina Gora” is a Tallinn microdistrict in whose territory the memorial complex is located. The territory of Maaryamäe itself was purchased in 1874 by the Russian Count Anatoly Orlov-Davydov. He was named in honor of his wife and daughter, who bore the name of Mary.

Based on this fact, the Estonian Minister of Justice, as a person familiar with jurisprudence, would have to start with the status of Maaryamäe in terms of the possibility of the descendants of the Russian earl to request a return of lands belonging to them by inheritance or impressive monetary compensation.
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  1. Nemesis
    Nemesis 6 January 2018 15: 41
    21
    It’s time for Russia to introduce the strictest visa regime with the countries of the former USSR and stop transit traffic through their ports and territories ... Enough to feed the soviet countries sick with Russophobia, at the expense and expense of Russia!
    1. jjj
      jjj 6 January 2018 15: 46
      +5
      They are so stuttering about the next release and accession to Russia
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 6 January 2018 15: 51
        15
        Yes, they do not need Russia. You ask the Russians in the Russian Federation - Do they want to live in the same country with Russophobia-sick Soviet nationals who organized pogroms of the Russian population in their countries on ethnic grounds ?! The answer will be unequivocal - NO ...
        1. loginovich
          loginovich 6 January 2018 16: 24
          +6
          And you did not try to formulate the question in a slightly different way: do you want a NATO base three hundred kilometers from St. Petersburg. I think the answer will be the same, NO and what to choose. to be friends or fight?
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 6 January 2018 16: 32
            +7
            Quote: loginovich
            And you did not try to formulate the question in a slightly different way: do you want a NATO base three hundred kilometers from St. Petersburg. I think the answer will be the same, NO and what to choose. to be friends or fight?
            In this case, no friendship will help. The Baltic countries are already occupied by the Anglo-Saxons represented by NATO led by the Pentagon in the interests of Washington’s globalism - i.e. in the interests of the United States.
            Americans need the lands of the Baltic countries and their cannon fodder!
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 6 January 2018 16: 49
              +4
              loginovich
              And you did not try to formulate the question in a slightly different way: do you want a NATO base three hundred kilometers from St. Petersburg. I think the answer will be the same, NO and what to choose. to be friends or fight?
              And about NATO bases in Ukraine, you, Comrade Loginov, are also naive! Everything in the country depends on the policies and personalities of the leadership "from above"!
            2. Nemesis
              Nemesis 6 January 2018 17: 55
              +3
              Nobody has occupied anyone, it's their choice. They met Hitler with flowers ...
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 6 January 2018 18: 14
                +2
                Quote: Nemesis
                Nobody has occupied anyone, it's their choice. They met Hitler with flowers ...
                Nobody has occupied them now? !!! Well, let them now then try to get rid of the NATO troops and send them off their land !!! Then they will personally see what true occupation is!
                In the meantime, the Baltic natives are occupied by their enemies with the help of the so-called. "soft power" - i.e. for the mere promises to them, as natives, of a sweet European life under the wing of their external globalist Anglo-Saxon enemy.
                1. Nemesis
                  Nemesis 6 January 2018 20: 06
                  +3
                  These natives consider Russia to be their enemy, they fought against Russia on the side of Hitler and today they are going to fight against Russia on the side of NATO
                  1. Inok10
                    Inok10 6 January 2018 22: 12
                    +6
                    Quote: Nemesis
                    These natives consider Russia to be their enemy, they fought against Russia on the side of Hitler and today they are going to fight against Russia on the side of NATO

                    ... alas and ah ... you are so far from the Truth ... the Baltic states are the Primordial lands of Russia ... which Tolerant Europe has been attempting for 400 years, including Poland ... and it’s not necessary to tell that every Lithuanian , Letts and Estonians take up arms and go to the Holy War with Morder-Russia ... well ... I wouldn’t live in the Kaliningrad region for an hour now, so maybe I would believe ... laughing ... I see both Poles and Lithuanians and the fastest minds in the world - Estonians ... and they already realized that it’s good with the Russians, with Europe it’s an ass ... tongue
                    1. Nemesis
                      Nemesis 9 January 2018 13: 10
                      0
                      These natives have always fought against Russia, and if you need these lands, the only way is the use of space-detonating ammunition.
          2. demo
            demo 6 January 2018 16: 50
            +3
            The question is not correct. And the answer is no different.
            But creating conditions for the appearance of the base is the right question.
            What is Russia doing to ensure that the base does not appear?
            Nothing.
            But to create difficulties for the flights of enemy aircraft near our borders, for 200-300 km, can we do this?
            An analogue of what has been done in Syria.
            And it doesn’t matter that the civilian also will not fly.
            The important thing is that Russia will clearly demonstrate its attitude.
            And the piece of iron is not worth helping them load.
            But students from the Baltic States to Russia to study can be taken for free.
            Can Patrice Lumumba University expand?
            Let the correct world view of the young generation be formed.
            But weren't the parents of these new young politicians serving, studying in the USSR?
            Is there really no information about their activities for the benefit of our native organs?
            And then you can continue through the list.
            And the last.
            Open hunting seasons named Olof Palme.
            Not all their ministers and presidents are so easy to roam the streets.
            You look at everything and starts to settle down.
            The mouths slam. And the brains will begin to work in the right direction.
            And memorials will not only be demolished, but the former will be restored and restored.
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 7 January 2018 21: 33
              +1
              Quote: demo
              What is Russia doing to ensure that the base does not appear?
              Nothing.
              But to create difficulties for the flights of enemy aircraft near our borders, for 200-300 km, can we do this?
              An analogue of what has been done in Syria.

              So what has been done in Syria that can be repeated in the Baltic states? The United States is calmly feeling east of the Euphrates, and not today or tomorrow they will organize a new terrorist country there. Suggest a couple of practical measures to prevent the construction of a base in the country of NATO. Open hunting season in a foreign country? Famously!!! Wanted to fight? Blow on Donbass, teach the local leaders how to manage the republics and win the war. Maybe it’s enough to put your primitive on public display? Some kind of irresponsible, stupid bravado .... It’s not only necessary to eat in the head.
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 6 January 2018 17: 54
          +1
          all these questions to Mishutka and Borka
      2. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 6 January 2018 15: 52
        10
        The Balts themselves chose the path of hatred. Just did not deign to think that this is a direct path to the Oblivion River ... sad
        1. Nemesis
          Nemesis 6 January 2018 15: 57
          10
          Not only the Baltic states ... Russia should have officially demanded an apology and material compensation for the pogroms of the Russian population from many countries of the former scoop ...
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 6 January 2018 16: 03
            +6
            I don’t argue - it’s high time, but this has not happened yet. Hope “bye” is a keyword ...
            Z.Y. I fully support what is written on your avatar. yes drinks
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 6 January 2018 16: 15
              +2
              If they come to the conclusion that it is legitimate to remove elements of the Soviet era, then this is necessary think out. The question is that the memorial should not be dangerous, and if necessary, something will have to be concrete or demolished.

              Well, while the Estonian will think, the monument itself will become worthless. sad
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 6 January 2018 16: 17
                +5
                So after all, from the West they also direct the “thought” of these clever men in the direction they need ... am
                1. Going
                  Going 6 January 2018 19: 43
                  +4
                  Pasha, they turned off the little thought and drive it to the slaughter.
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 6 January 2018 20: 19
                    +4
                    Vitya, they have talked about this more than once, but the fact remains.
                    1. Going
                      Going 6 January 2018 20: 32
                      +4
                      Only this makes it easier for us and we need to do something about it.
                      1. bouncyhunter
                        bouncyhunter 6 January 2018 20: 39
                        +4
                        I already said how and what to do. bully
            2. Going
              Going 6 January 2018 20: 53
              +3
              They have opponents, from the word nasty. laughing

          2. Pirogov
            Pirogov 6 January 2018 19: 56
            +1
            Quote: Nemesis
            Not only the Baltic states ... Russia should have officially demanded an apology and material compensation for the pogroms of the Russian population from many countries of the former scoop.

            Yes, no apologies should be demanded, but given over the head so that from the mere mention of Russia their legs and hands would shake and draw into the toilet ...............
          3. Evgeniy667b
            Evgeniy667b 7 January 2018 04: 50
            0
            And what do Russians do to demand moral compensation, first of all? They themselves have not gone far, since the main value of society is money and the cult of trading. The process is proceeding at a fast pace and if it cannot be stopped at any cost, our country will very well go down in history. The fragments will remain. The answer to this question is in our heads change yourself
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 6 January 2018 17: 12
          +1
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          The Balts themselves chose the path of hatred.

          They’re not even a fucking way, the State Department did it for them! And then everything is cliche! What "Solidarity" in Poland, that all subsequent color coups led by the SGA!
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 6 January 2018 17: 17
            +3
            Quote: Tol100v
            all subsequent color coups led by the SGA!

            Actually, this is what I meant, Igor hi He deliberately did not quote the word "yourself" or put a smiley on it.
    2. svp67
      svp67 6 January 2018 15: 54
      +2
      Quote: Nemesis
      . Enough to feed soviet countries sick with Russophobia, at the expense and to the detriment of Russia!

      Yes, it would be time for our ambassador to withdraw, for consultations, and hand them over to NOTU.
      There, the main monument is a monument to Russian sailors who died in 1918
      Many believe that the obelisk on Maaryamägi is associated with the history of the Great Patriotic War. In fact, he has nothing to do with her. The monument was erected in memory of the sailors of the Baltic Fleet in February 1918, when Estonia was occupied by Kaiser Germany, who were able to transport ships with valuable cargo through Finland to Russian Kronstadt.

      This operation was carried out by personal order of V.I. Lenin. In modern historical books, it is referred to as the Ice Camp. It is worth noting that thanks to this crossing, it was possible not only to remove material assets from occupied Tallinn, but also to save most of the Baltic Fleet.


      An obelisk commemorating this event was erected on a hillside in 1960. The authors of the monument, whose height reaches 35 meters, were the sculptor Lembit Tolly and the architect Mart Port. However, this was not the end of the matter. Over time, not only new monuments appeared here, but also a ceremonial square, sponsored by Allan Murdmaa, Pep Jänes, Rhine Kersten and other figures.

      The memorial complex also includes the mass grave of sailors from the destroyers "Avtroil" and "Spartak", captured by the British interventionists in Tallinn Bay. About two hundred sailors were sent to a camp located on the island of Naissaar, and 36 sailors, both Russian and Estonians by nationality, were shot by counter-revolutionaries. They were buried in Maaryamägi in 1940, after the establishment of Soviet power in the republic.
    3. katana
      katana 6 January 2018 15: 55
      +4
      Well, the author of the article gave good advice - let them return to the descendants of Russian aristocrats the property that was taken from them as a result of Estonia’s accession to the USSR. At the same time, it would not be bad if the modern Russian government returned some of the property taken from Russian people years of revolution and civil war. Most of the family estates fell into complete disrepair. Former owners of this property could have a much more prudent disposition of the heritage of their ancestors, and today's Russians have something to learn from their former elites.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 6 January 2018 19: 13
        +8
        Quote: katana
        Most of the family estates fell into complete disrepair. Former owners of this property could have much more prudently disposed of the heritage of their ancestors, and today's Russians have something to learn from their former elites.

        I do not classify myself with the "current elite", but I own some real estate. And at the same time I invest money not always just where they make the next money. This was taught to my son, this is my grandson. "Give, without demanding profit, to the one who really needs." It will then return good anyway.
        So I have nothing to learn from the "former", and now decorative, self-proclaimed mummers of countesses and princes.
        And to transfer the former count estates to the new owners - to lose them forever. Well, if the "new owners" on the Borodino field are cooking up dachas, then any homestead the next day after registration of the right of ownership will be leveled for cottages.
        Unfortunately, there is already an experience of transferring property to “owners of a fair right of ownership”. They gave the collective farmers and state farmers shares on the ground ... What did they do with them? They began to plow, sow? Figwam .... According to 5-10 thousands of shares were sold to investors, those times (you just need to know who and how much to give) took the land out of the agricultural turnover, built up pocket-sized construction companies and built up cottages or economy class floors with a bang . This is anyone who has enough imagination ....
        I can argue - it will be the same with estates.
        My opinion is that the state should take the estates and repair at their own expense. There is money - in the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation alone each year, a lard or a half steals. And then the estates for what used to be pioneer camps, nursing homes, summer cottages for kindergartens and so on. The former "owners" were not idiots either - they knew in what places to build the estate. Well, let our great-grandchildren grow there .....
    4. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 6 January 2018 15: 56
      +5
      Introduce a complete ban on the import of any goods from this country, to detain ships in international waters, fill up with lawsuits in international courts. I hope at least one of this, our authorities will finally do !!!!
      1. katana
        katana 6 January 2018 16: 05
        +1
        Quote: Herman 4223
        Introduce a complete ban on the import of any goods from this country, to detain ships in international waters, fill up with lawsuits in international courts. I hope at least one of this, our authorities will finally do !!!!

        Well, the measures you are proposing will not help the matter if the Ests are military-minded and do not want to retreat. You can simply agree and move this monument to your place in Russia, not to let it be destroyed.
        1. Nemesis
          Nemesis 6 January 2018 16: 10
          +3
          It is enough for Russia to refuse transit through the countries of the former scoop and introduce a visa regime so that their economies feel it on themselves to the fullest ... This will already be an effective answer ... Yes, and a complete embargo on trade with such countries of Russia will not hurt, but the West one can always say that - Trade is a voluntary matter and recall NATO’s anti-Russian sanctions ...
          1. katana
            katana 6 January 2018 16: 22
            +2
            Quote: Nemesis
            It is enough for Russia to refuse transit through the countries of the former scoop and introduce a visa regime so that their economies feel it on themselves to the fullest ... This will already be an effective answer ... Yes, and a complete embargo on trade with such countries of Russia will not hurt, but the West one can always say that - Trade is a voluntary matter and recall NATO’s anti-Russian sanctions ...

            Dear, I did not want to dispel your illusions, but, apparently, I have to. With Estonia, you have a visa regime for a long time and you cannot enter it for the simple reason that this regime has long been introduced.
            1. Nemesis
              Nemesis 6 January 2018 16: 25
              +2
              And who said only about Estonia ?! I wrote about the scoop republics sick with Russophobia in general and the need to introduce a visa regime with them, or should you be reminded of the pogroms in Baku, Osh, Alma-Ata .... on national grounds ?! In addition, Russia will easily live without Estonian sprats, refrigerators and ports ...
          2. your1970
            your1970 7 January 2018 17: 13
            +1
            Quote: Nemesis
            It is enough for Russia to refuse transit through the countries of the former scoop and introduce a visa regime so that their economies feel it on themselves to the fullest ... This will already be an effective answer ... Yes, and a complete embargo on trade with such countries of Russia will not hurt, but the West one can always say that - Trade is a voluntary matter and recall NATO’s anti-Russian sanctions ...
            -
            1) visas were introduced in the early 2000s (I don’t remember exactly, maybe even earlier)
            2) the transit has practically ceased, the Baltika railway has practically ceased, everything is leaving for Ust-Luga
            3) trade, well, the corpse is still moving slightly, our export exceeds import (this is a plus for us)
            “Russia's exports to Lithuania in the 1st quarter of 2017 amounted to 639 324 012 US dollars, an increase of 12,55% (71 279 102 US dollars) compared with the same period in 2016.
            Russia's imports from Lithuania in the 1st quarter of 2017 amounted to $ 93, an increase of 255% ($ 240) compared to the same period in 12,84.
            The trade balance of Russia with Lithuania in the 1st quarter of 2017 was positive in the amount of 546 US dollars. Compared to the same period in 068, the surplus increased by 772% (2016 US dollars).
            Lithuania's share in the foreign trade turnover of Russia in the 1st quarter of 2017 amounted to 0,5699% compared to 0,6703% in the same period in 2016. According to the share in Russian trade in the 1st quarter of 2017, Lithuania ranked 36 place (in the 1st quarter of 2016 - 29th place).
            The share of Lithuania in Russian exports in the 1st quarter of 2017 amounted to 0,7672% compared to 0,9269% in the same period in 2016. According to the share of Russian exports in the 1st quarter of 2017, Lithuania ranked 30 place (in the 1st quarter of 2016 - 23th place).
            The share of Lithuania in Russia's imports in the 1st quarter of 2017 amounted to 0,2062% compared to 0,2309% in the same period in 2016. According to the share of Russian imports in the 1st quarter of 2017, Lithuania ranked 56 place (in the 1st quarter of 2016 - 54 place) "
            Alas Nemesis - your "complete cessation of trade, embargo and fence" benefits US will not bring, in fact, the trade between us and the Limitrophs has long since died
            1. Nemesis
              Nemesis 9 January 2018 13: 13
              0
              It may not bring you, but an embargo on Russia with Russophobia-sick states, such as those stalls with sprats, will certainly bring ...
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 6 January 2018 17: 22
          +1
          Quote: katana
          .You can just negotiate and reschedule

          And if it’s good to “agree!”, As Stalin knew how, then the whole Baltic States will return to where they left by combat parade march! Along with all NATO military bases, -NAETO!
          1. your1970
            your1970 7 January 2018 17: 15
            0
            Quote: Tol100v
            Quote: katana
            .You can just negotiate and reschedule

            And if it’s good to “agree!”, As Stalin knew how, then the whole Baltic States will return to where they left by combat parade march! And with all the military bases of NATO -NAETO!
            -feed who will be Russophobia? Again, this is happiness on the neck of Russia ??? !!!
        3. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 6 January 2018 19: 26
          +8
          Quote: katana
          Well, the measures you are proposing will not help,if the ests are military-minded and do not want to retreat.

          Erdogan was tuned MORE than in combat. Already shot down a plane. How did it end? They didn’t even have to bomb, as hotheads suggested. They pressed tomatoes and tourists - again became the best friend. Himself on all fours crawled forward forward. I realized with whose hand he’s eating ....
          The United States is absolutely not shy about pushing anyone against the wall. Are we all playing good? Tired of it already. It is IMPOSSIBLE to play honestly with cheaters !!!! One must either not play at all, or use their own methods against them. The completely modern world does not allow not to play - even Kima - and those in Scakland bought engines for their rockets. So, we must respond with blow to blow. To demolish the monuments in Poland, respond with the demolition of the memorial to their drunken president and his retinue near Smolensk. And there is always a whip to the Balts, since the Soviet gingerbreads seemed bitter to them. Only the WEF, RAF, Dzintars and the Port of Tallinn fed the whole Baltic States with Soviet gingerbread cookies as no one had fed them before or after the Soviet regime ...
    5. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 6 January 2018 16: 15
      +5
      I do not agree. The decision of the stupid government and population and the so-called "Russophobic countries" is not the same thing.
      Here it is necessary to approach finer.

      Yes, and your statement "soviet countries" says a lot.
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 6 January 2018 16: 17
        +4
        The population supports the government that is in power and is responsible for its actions ... In Kiev, no one came out against the Bandera regime either in 2014 or today ... All Ukraine pays taxes on the ATO, knocks on Russians at the SBU, serves in the ATO and even living in Russia spies against Russia and reports to the Ukrainian Embassy data on the movement of army units in Russia ...
        1. Sands Careers General
          Sands Careers General 6 January 2018 19: 32
          +3
          You don’t know anything, forgive the truth. It wouldn’t matter if you were to settle here, in Lugansk, where I live, or in the DPR, they would immediately lose virtual illusions.
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 6 January 2018 20: 08
            +3
            Lugansk is not Ukraine, but Ukraine ALL for Bandera ...
            1. Sands Careers General
              Sands Careers General 6 January 2018 21: 05
              +3
              Quote: Nemesis
              Ukraine ALL for Bandera

              No, it is not. You would like to, but this is far from the case.
              1. your1970
                your1970 7 January 2018 17: 23
                +1
                Quote: Sands Career General
                Quote: Nemesis
                Ukraine ALL for Bandera

                No, it is not. You would like to, but this is far from the case.
                - Alas, we don’t see mass messages in the Ukrainian media like: “Yesterday, unknown people hung Yarosh on Lviv Square”, “Last week 10 echelons with the equipment going for the APU in the ATO went downhill,” “Unknown persons covered the whole story with the leaflets“ Death to Poroshenko’s regime ” Kiev ", etc.
                We understand that in my heart there are very many in Ukraine against Bandera and others, but only in the shower.
                Action (!!!) outside the republics is not observed, alas ....
                1. Sands Careers General
                  Sands Careers General 7 January 2018 20: 07
                  +3
                  Quote: your1970
                  Action (!!!) outside the republics is not observed, alas ....


                  Observed, just not covered in the media.
              2. Nemesis
                Nemesis 9 January 2018 13: 14
                0
                This is so, and if you are not ready to admit it, these are your problems ... Your statement is unfounded
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 6 January 2018 19: 38
        +7
        Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
        The decision of the stupid government and population and the so-called "Russophobic countries" is not the same thing.

        So the population is not sick, and who asks. Democratic elections in a dwarf country turn into a farce. The president of any of the Baltic republics is elected by fewer voters than our regional head. A large crowd can easily be infected with an idea, and a small crowd can be easily fooled.
        In the film "Shirley-Myrli", in a comedic plan, they promised to relocate all the Russians with funds from the sale of diamond to the Canary Islands for several years. In the case of some Estonia, such a promise does not look like a comedy at all. So much for the "good president." And then this result of indigestion of democracy does what it wants, putting it in the middle on the people. And if it is correct, according to the instructions of the Washington Regional Committee, to connect the media, education, propaganda - then the people will want the same thing that they want the tyrant in power ....
    6. alexmach
      alexmach 6 January 2018 22: 53
      +1
      This is .. so the visa regime with the Baltic states is already 15 years old, probably, if not from the age of 91 ..
    7. iouris
      iouris 6 January 2018 23: 25
      0
      Quote: Nemesis
      It’s time for Russia to introduce the strictest visa regime with the countries of the former USSR

      The mode has long been introduced. However, in the Pskov region citizens with dual citizenship are a dime a dozen. And in power too.
      According to the political "elite" of Estonia (most likely, former agents of the KGB of the USSR who came under the authority of the CIA), it is time to bring the process to its logical conclusion. Wait until the Baltic Sea is closed for spans and swims.
    8. Olgovich
      Olgovich 7 January 2018 07: 45
      0
      Quote: Nemesis
      It’s time for Russia to introduce the strictest visa regime with the countries of the former USSR and stop transit traffic through their ports and territories.

      Built and gaining momentum port of Ust-Luga transit goes there.
      And eio is the best answer to the Estonian fascists.
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    1. volodya
      volodya 6 January 2018 15: 45
      +3
      Quote: Herman 4223
      Scum, no more words.

      By this they deprive themselves of history! They were also Soviet! Or did they only have a fascist past?
      1. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 6 January 2018 15: 54
        +4
        Quote: volodya
        By this they deprive themselves of history! They were also Soviet! Or did they only have a fascist past?

        Those who are now in power there, like their patrons, only had a Nazi past. And now they are taking revenge on Soviet monuments for the fact that the USSR strangled Nazism in Europe.
        1. volodya
          volodya 6 January 2018 16: 09
          +7
          Quote: Rakti-Kali
          Those who are now in power there, like their patrons, only had a Nazi past. And now they are taking revenge on Soviet monuments for the fact that the USSR strangled Nazism in Europe.

  3. HEATHER
    HEATHER 6 January 2018 15: 47
    +3
    Reinsalu This bum blundered? It’s time for Russia not to use politics, but to use force in the Moscow Region.
  4. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 6 January 2018 15: 50
    +4
    What do you mean allow? They will demolish a soul for a sweetheart! Unfortunately, power in Russia is only wiping itself off! Because two boots a pair! If Russia is actively introducing everything that was under the USSR, it was impossible, what can we say about Estonia.
  5. Egorovich
    Egorovich 6 January 2018 15: 52
    +5
    What flawed creatures go around the world, there are not enough words.
  6. HMR333
    HMR333 6 January 2018 16: 00
    +1
    they would take away the monuments from these unscrupulous people and set them up!
    1. bald
      bald 6 January 2018 16: 18
      0
      I fully support - I have been talking about this for a long time - this is desecration.
  7. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 6 January 2018 16: 02
    +6
    In response - immediately brutal sanctions to the Balts in transit and in trade. Their budgets are robust on this. And we take it all off. A burial with honors to transfer to the homeland - do not care what the costs. After we return the indemnities
  8. TOR2
    TOR2 6 January 2018 16: 06
    0
    Quietly, you need to disassemble all types of roads going to them from the Russian Federation in view of economic futility.
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic 6 January 2018 16: 06
    +2
    In my opinion, it is time to demolish these quasi-countries, and return the lands bought from Sweden by Peter the Great to Russia. Tired of enduring spitting from insignificance!
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  11. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 6 January 2018 16: 08
    +4
    Quote: Herman 4223
    Introduce a complete ban on the import of any goods from this country, to detain ships in international waters, fill up with lawsuits in international courts. I hope at least one of this, our authorities will finally do !!!!

    On the basis of what should their vessels be detained? And to the court on what basis to file? The territory is theirs. The monument is theirs. What they want, they do it. God knows what already.
    By the way, we hardly trade with them anyway, so they don’t care about your “bans” am
  12. Wolka
    Wolka 6 January 2018 16: 36
    +1
    kolyvans have nothing to be proud of, so the last thing that remains of the Great country to which they once belonged is now being destroyed with their own hands, a nation that does not honor its past, has no present, no future ...
  13. action
    action 6 January 2018 16: 38
    0
    yes, as always, swallow and threaten for visibility
  14. 452336
    452336 6 January 2018 16: 41
    +1
    Quote: Nemesis
    And who said only about Estonia ?! I wrote about the scoop republics sick with Russophobia in general and the need to introduce a visa regime with them, or should you be reminded of the pogroms in Baku, Osh, Alma-Ata .... on national grounds ?! In addition, Russia will easily live without Estonian sprats, refrigerators and ports ...

    Do not like Estonian sprats and refrigerators (?), Do not buy them.
    1. Nemesis
      Nemesis 6 January 2018 18: 00
      +2
      And so I do not buy, but this is not enough ... They should not be in the Russian Federation at all, from the word ABSOLUTELY ... Enough to support the economy of Russophobic states, at the expense and expense of Russia ...
  15. 452336
    452336 6 January 2018 16: 45
    +2
    Quote: Herkulesich
    In my opinion, it is time to demolish these quasi-countries, and return the lands bought from Sweden by Peter the Great to Russia. Tired of enduring spitting from insignificance!

    Will you demolish and return? Baltic countries are part of NATO if that;)
  16. Deck
    Deck 6 January 2018 16: 51
    +2
    Quote: Nemesis
    In addition, Russia will easily live without Estonian sprats, refrigerators and ports ...

    So we live without it for a long time. What other suggestions?
    1. Nemesis
      Nemesis 6 January 2018 17: 59
      +1
      While we do not live, unfortunately ... 1) the Russian Federation has reduced transit through the Baltic ports, but has not abandoned them ... 2) I saw their sprats, relatively recently, in a store ...
      1. Deck
        Deck 6 January 2018 18: 12
        +3
        Sprats from the Kaliningrad region. EU fish products are subject to destruction at the border. The Russian Federation does not import anything. Private companies are being driven. Why, in the presence of semi-empty Bronka and Ust-Luga? More expensive and wonderful Baltic customs, border guards and other unpleasant personalities in uniform. It is not for nothing that our sailors and fishermen call our ports "enemy"
        1. Nemesis
          Nemesis 6 January 2018 20: 11
          +2
          1) I buy Kaliningrad sprats, but I also saw Riga in the store not so long ago. 2) If thieves were punished in the Russian Federation, and the border was full of bribes, it would be different ... 3) Russia has reduced the use of the ports of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, but has not completely abandoned it, but it is necessary to abandon the word altogether
  17. oldzek
    oldzek 6 January 2018 17: 03
    +5
    Is this the attitude of the current authorities towards seafarers? they are not Estonians! although they run this country. I was repaired several times in Tallinn. Well, I became familiar in a store nearby. And in the end I heard once: "You live here so long that it’s time to speak in Estonian. "I answer that they say a sailor and that I need to be a polyglot in order to speak all the languages ​​I’ve been to. And that’s all. There followed an apology and there was only respect in the future. I believe ordinary Estonians have respect for the sailors, but who of them authorities will listen ...
    1. your1970
      your1970 7 January 2018 17: 29
      0
      Quote: oldzek
      and that’s all. Then apologies followed and there was only respect in the future. I believe ordinary Estonians still have respect for the sailors,
      -Sailors bring money, money and again money PERSONALLY to everyone who is involved in the service and trade
  18. Stas Snezhin
    Stas Snezhin 6 January 2018 17: 20
    +1
    And there will be no sanctions because of such tricks.
    Because who resents like that? Yes, ordinary people of Russia who have honor, conscience and memory.
    And those who are connected with capital, and could effectively influence the ushlopoks in rubles, dollars, etc., they simply remain silent and continue to draw a profitable denyuzhku.
    Yes, and of course, we will again hear some sort of “concern, perplexity or perplexity” from the people sitting above ..

    It is sad to see how they spit on a once-great country from all sides ..
  19. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 6 January 2018 17: 52
    +5
    And I admit the demolition of Tallinn.
    1. Nemesis
      Nemesis 6 January 2018 17: 57
      +1
      Good point, I like ...
  20. Strips
    Strips 6 January 2018 18: 49
    +1
    Russia does not particularly respond to this, apparently - neither regarding the diplomatic level, nor any other.
    At least they would ask for the opportunity to move the monument to Russia, if you are not ready to fight for it with Estonia.
  21. my five cents
    my five cents 6 January 2018 18: 56
    +3
    I live here.
    If you read what they write about this memorial.
    The story is like that. The memorial is made of reinforced concrete with a thickness of -120 cm. And after its manufacture since 1980, he talked about what it might collapse. In general, insanity is utter. They just want to demolish and are looking for an excuse. The bronze plates with inscriptions have already been stolen in 2000. Everything fell into disrepair. But anyway, someone needed land. The most interesting thing is different. On the territory of this memorial there is a fascist cemetery, burial probably 1942. I don’t remember exactly. Flattened, without crosses and inscriptions. just a field. But there “conquerors” lie in even rows. I wonder how they will deal with them? Dig out or start to sculpt over bones?
  22. Terenin
    Terenin 6 January 2018 19: 53
    +5
    At the same time, Reinsalu declared that for him there was no historical value in the complex.. You, guy, have no brains and no conscience!
  23. Bronevick
    Bronevick 6 January 2018 21: 05
    0
    How many monuments are there?
  24. Gardamir
    Gardamir 6 January 2018 21: 41
    0
    Only the Kremlin has the right to truth. Demolish everything Soviet can only the Kremlin.
  25. prior
    prior 6 January 2018 22: 31
    +1
    A thief should sit in jail. Every crime must be punished.
    If the demolition of the monument in Tallinn is a crime, then the punishment, the demolition of Tallinn, should follow.
  26. Berg berg
    Berg berg 7 January 2018 00: 26
    +1
    To warn all countries that even after the end of the embargo, Russia will not stop its countries destroying the monuments to the fallen Soviet soldiers of the Great Patriotic War until their full restoration!
  27. Sivasa
    Sivasa 7 January 2018 01: 04
    +2
    My opinion is 1). Dismantling and export to the territory of Russia. 2). The full economic embargo. 3). The minimum level of diplomatic relations.
  28. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 7 January 2018 02: 09
    +3
    Soviet sailors must be allowed to demolish Tallinn. It will be honest, in my opinion.
  29. Dzungar
    Dzungar 7 January 2018 10: 32
    0
    Someday they themselves will restore all this, with their own hands and at their own expense ...
  30. Berg berg
    Berg berg 7 January 2018 13: 21
    0
    To ban transit through Russia and the right to trade on its territory to countries that carry out such anti-Soviet-anti-Russian actions and crimes. It is forbidden to introduce until the full restoration of historical military monuments and memorials.
  31. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 7 January 2018 18: 14
    0
    there is no value in Estonia itself ....
  32. andron-30
    andron-30 7 January 2018 18: 27
    +1
    you need to throw the Baltic suckers would say what kind of bandyugan not to be, but we grated people just need to put on the grandmother and a simple stretch coupon, but if we cut it down, we will love it and bro.