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MiG-35 goes to state tests

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Information Agency Interfax reports that soon it is planned to begin state tests of the MiG-35 multirole fighter. From a message from Interfax's interlocutor aviation industry:
Factory flight tests of the MiG-35 ended in December 2017. The fighter is preparing to enter the joint state test at the start of 2018. Their (state testing) is scheduled for completion in 2019 year.



MiG-35 goes to state tests


The details of the factory testing of official data currently have not been reported.

Earlier, a lot of noise was made by the statement of Viktor Bondarev, who was at that time in the position of commander-in-chief of the Russian Aerospace Force. General Bondarev spoke about the "possibility of arming the MiG-35 fighter with laser weapons". Experts noted that we are not talking about a lethal laser weapon as such, but about systems that allow using a laser technology to implement targeting fighter missiles at a target.

It is known that the MiG-35 is equipped with an advanced defensive complex, which minimizes the possibility of a surprise attack from the enemy. The complex has the functionality to recognize both aircraft and missiles.

The aircraft developers note that the MiG-35 is armed with long-range weapons, allowing attacks on targets without entering the enemy’s air defense zone. A multipurpose light fighter is capable of performing combat missions not only against air and ground targets, but also against enemy ships.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 January 2018 12: 19
    12
    ... we will fly to the MiG-35! good
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 6 January 2018 12: 31
      +9
      yes! soon our flyers will run around the 35th.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 6 January 2018 12: 44
        +7
        Quote: newbie
        yes! soon our flyers will run around the 35th.

        and stall him. smile in the sense of the combat parts
        1. dubovitskiy.1947
          dubovitskiy.1947 6 January 2018 15: 52
          +3
          Quote: LSA57
          Quote: newbie
          yes! soon our flyers will run around the 35th.

          and stall him. smile in the sense of the combat parts

          In the sense, herds.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 6 January 2018 12: 42
      +6
      Quote: aszzz888
      . we will fly on the MiG-35!

      news is so news. would be faster to deal with this test
    3. iouris
      iouris 6 January 2018 13: 53
      +1
      Is it too late? Well, unless, if tomorrow it’s straight into battle.
  2. pjbunny
    pjbunny 6 January 2018 12: 44
    +7
    the question is from the profane, but why instantly 35, if there is a su 35? what can one, and not able to do the other?
    1. Magic archer
      Magic archer 6 January 2018 12: 48
      +9
      Mig front-line aircraft. Its task is superiority over the battlefield. Plus 35 taught to work on the ground, and Drying is a heavier aircraft, operating over long distances and having a powerful avionics
      1. iouris
        iouris 6 January 2018 23: 30
        0
        Quote: Magic Archer
        His task is superiority over the battlefield.

        But is the superiority of the Russian Federation in aviation over NATO an achievable task?
        1. StobbeS
          StobbeS 8 January 2018 11: 12
          0
          If you do not try, this advantage will then be definitely not attainable.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 6 January 2018 12: 48
      +6
      Su-35 - heavy fighter, MiG-35 - light fighter.
      1. pjbunny
        pjbunny 6 January 2018 12: 51
        +3
        archer- thanks for the clarification. Sith is for me light / heavy, just words. I asked about the tasks for one and the other.
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 6 January 2018 12: 58
        +6
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Su-35 - heavy fighter, MiG-35 - light fighter.

        I think the MiG-35 is mainly an export product. This is a 4 generation car and it is late. VKS went forward.
        1. Lex.
          Lex. 6 January 2018 14: 17
          +4
          It doesn’t matter, the 5th generation light fighter is not worth the wait, and the Mig-35 is ready now
      3. Herculesic
        Herculesic 6 January 2018 13: 09
        +7
        Lord of the Sitkh hi -Sergey, MiG35, not light, but an average fighter! Lightweight is Grippen, which has ONE engine, for example!
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 6 January 2018 14: 19
          +4
          MiG-35 (according to NATO codification: “Fulcrum-F” - “fulcrum”) - designation of a promising Russian multifunctional light fighter. The 4 ++ generation fighter, the characteristics of which are as close as possible to fifth-generation vehicles.
      4. just exp
        just exp 6 January 2018 13: 15
        +7
        nonsense, it was only with mattresses, since the F-16 is yes, it is a light fighter, but the Mig-29/35 is no longer even average, it is closer to heavy.
        light fighter is a single-engine fighter, we had this last Mig-21.
        while the Miga-9/35 and the fuel eats only slightly less than heavy, it costs almost the same (and if the order for 240 planes is not given to the Migu and Su-35, then the latter will fall in price so much that it will be even cheaper than an instant), the cost of maintenance is the same (2 engines), but the possibilities are much less (radius, etc.).
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 6 January 2018 14: 07
          14
          Mig and the truth is no different, just a station wagon with a deviation to the front.
          What, how, why - at the experts.
          Addition to the account of a large batch of Su, the cost price will definitely be less. so the solution is not economic, to support the Mig Design Bureau afloat, this is more likely.
          What is right, as it was necessary ... not for us to decide.
        2. Genry
          Genry 6 January 2018 15: 00
          16
          Quote: just explo
          light fighter is a single-engine fighter, we had this last Mig-21.

          And, for example, a fighter based on the Yak-130 will also be heavy, because two engines?
          In Russia, they are trying to use two engines to increase survivability and do not determine the class of the aircraft.
        3. tomket
          tomket 7 January 2018 01: 37
          +1
          Quote: just explo
          light fighter is a single-engine fighter, we had this last Mig-21.

          Do you think the MiG-19 is light or heavy?
          Quote: just explo
          nonsense, it was only with mattresses, since F-16 is yes, it’s a light fighter,

          Nothing that it weighs almost like a MiG-29? Or do you determine only by the number of engines?))))))
          Quote: just explo
          and if the order for 240 aircraft is not given to Migu but to Su-35, then the cost of the latter will drop so much that it will even be cheaper than an instant), the cost of maintenance is the same (2 engine)

          Immediately visible EXPERT))))))
          1. just exp
            just exp 7 January 2018 15: 34
            0
            Compared to the MiG-15, the 19 will be a heavy fighter, just as the Pe-2 Il-4 will remain long-range and dive bombers, not light fighters, since they have 5 tons in weight.
            what according to your classification applies to their almost ultralight fighter jets.
            and f-16 is much lighter than the Mig-35, and for reference, the larger the series, the cheaper the cost, this is an axiom. with it everywhere, and in aviation and sock manufacturing.
            Iskperd also found me ....
            1. tomket
              tomket 8 January 2018 01: 52
              +1
              Quote: just explo
              Compared to the MiG-15, the 19 will be a heavy fighter, just as the Pe-2 Il-4 will remain long-range and dive bombers, not light fighters, since they have 5 tons in weight.

              All the same, you determine the number of engines)))) I thought you would be smarter, and at least look at the take-off weight of the "heavy" MiG-19 and light MiG-21)))) But no)))) Write nonsense)))) )))))
              Quote: just explo
              and f-16 is much lighter than Mig-35

              For reference, the mass of the empty f-16 is 9 tons, and the Super Viper is 10 tons, it's overweight, and what should I do?))))) MiG-35 -11 tons. Agree on the "much easier" speech is out of the question, the difference is one ton. The problem is that you look at the weight of the last MiG, and compare with the first f-16, before they overgrown with fat ......
              Quote: just explo
              , the larger the series, the cheaper the cost, this is an axiom. with it everywhere, and in aviation and sock manufacturing.

              Well, you probably did not deal with the production of socks)))))))) Cost f-16 (which was riveted like socks in China) -50 mill, MiG-35 (which is not in the series) -about 40 mill. So do not smack nonsense, and do not disgrace yourself, you will appear smarter.
        4. fiberboard
          fiberboard 7 January 2018 08: 03
          +1
          And why can’t MIG-21 be stuffed with new electronics, engines with a deflected thrust vector, etc. .. Here’s a new lightweight fighter.
          1. Dalailama
            Dalailama 7 January 2018 08: 54
            0
            PGO can only be attached, and static instability, stealth panels, they also make the conformal tanks removable.
          2. just exp
            just exp 7 January 2018 15: 35
            0
            it is being updated, Mig-21-2000 which bison, on the exercises in India, did even F-15.
      5. Winnie76
        Winnie76 6 January 2018 13: 44
        +3
        Quote: Sith Lord
        MiG-35 - light fighter

        Lightweight laughing
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 6 January 2018 14: 19
          +1
          MiG-35 (according to NATO codification: “Fulcrum-F” - “fulcrum”) - designation of a promising Russian multifunctional light fighter. The 4 ++ generation fighter, the characteristics of which are as close as possible to fifth-generation vehicles.
      6. opus
        opus 6 January 2018 15: 29
        +4
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Su-35 - heavy fighter, MiG-35 - light fighter.

        exactly "easy"?
        watch the indian tender MMRCA

        look lth

        Quote: Magic Archer
        Mig front plane.Its task is superiority over the battlefield. The 35 Plus taught to work on the ground, and Drying is a heavier aircraft operating over long distances

        doubt it.
        both of them are multipurpose fighter-bombers, capable of both gaining superiority in the sky, and delivering rocket-bombing strikes against ground or sea targets. Even their combat load almost leveled off (7 and 8 t).

        Quote: Magic Archer
        operating over long distances and having a powerful avionics

        is it?
        Optical radio sighting and navigation observation systems MIG-35

        on the MIG-35, the 2 lens of the optical system with high resolution arrays is installed: one behind the cab light (upper hemisphere), the second in the conformal compartment of the left nacelle (lower hemisphere).
        +
        the already well-known, but refined front-view station with the sectors of the review +/- 90 ° in azimuth and -15 / + 60 in elevation, works in the infrared, television and laser channels; a circular optical lower positioning station with similar viewing channels, but with an additional laser range finder-target designator and a laser spot capture function for working on land and sea targets.
        +
        Laser irradiation detection station: sensors at the wing tips (detection range of the irradiation source - 30 km).
        It will be able to adequately perform the “mini-AWACS” function, with the help of an attacking missile detection station, the sighting system will be able to send coordinates via the fiber-optic system (680 Mb capacity / s) to the small-sized target of the Zhuk-AE radar, and then intercept this missile using RVV-AE, will also be able to bring the image of a tactical situation on the displays of friendly fighters, to notify about the approach of enemy air attack weapons.
      7. ALLxANDr
        ALLxANDr 6 January 2018 16: 09
        +2
        Su-35 - a heavy fighter - that's right
        MiG-35 - light fighter - This is not a light fighter, but rather an average one.
      8. WapentakeLokki
        WapentakeLokki 6 January 2018 20: 20
        +1
        But in appearance, well, one in one only Su will not be better ??? Here, the mattress mattresses have clear F-15 heavy two-engine and F-16, on the contrary, light, one engine and cheap. And here's what: obviously late Migari are trying to push their product by the market under the strange fake "front-line fighter" and what, what is its front-line? And the airfields near the front line are the first to be smacked and here is a small radius of the Miga like a sickle ... But Su with its unique aerobatics will not yield to anything A moment in close air combat so that this project is another attempt to cut the non-rubber budget of Russia
        1. Dalailama
          Dalailama 6 January 2018 21: 03
          +2
          If on the MiG-35 if the static instability as promised, then he will also not give in to Sushka, and the front should mean the ability to fly from unpaved strips.
        2. tomket
          tomket 7 January 2018 01: 43
          0
          Quote: WapentakeLokki
          And in appearance, well, one in one, only Su will not be better

          You are alone))))
          Quote: WapentakeLokki
          ? Well, for mattress mattresses, the F-15 is clearly heavy with two engines and the F-16, on the contrary, is light, one engine and cheap.

          Another EXPERT, now an economist)))))
          Quote: WapentakeLokki
          clearly late Migari

          You are late))))
          Quote: WapentakeLokki
          under the strange fake "" front-line fighter

          If you are such a degenerate that you have not heard such terms, then these are purely your mental problems, but not MiG's.
          Quote: WapentakeLokki
          And Su, with his unique aerobatics, will in no way yield to Migu in close air combat

          Nya having analagav in the world .......)))))))
          Quote: WapentakeLokki
          project is yet another attempt to cut Russia's non-rubber budget

          No, it's just you ......
        3. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 7 January 2018 03: 36
          +3
          Quote: WapentakeLokki
          one engine and cheap

          recourse recourse recourse would you even compare the prices of your 2 voiced Americanos aircraft !!! wink laughing laughing laughing
      9. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 January 2018 20: 26
        +3
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Su-35 - heavy fighter, MiG-35 - light fighter.

        MIG-35 is a MEDIUM fighter. Light class fighters are already leaving the scene, due to the complexity of the fighters and the emergence of new threats and tasks. Now all fighters are becoming multi-purpose de facto, hence the increase in mass.
        1. opus
          opus 7 January 2018 01: 02
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          MIG-35 is a MEDIUM fighter

          There is no such classification.
          That's bullshit fool ury patriots
          A fighter is a military aircraft designed primarily for the destruction of enemy air targets.

          It is used to gain air supremacy over the enemy, as well as to accompany bomber, transport aircraft, civil aircraft, and to protect ground targets from enemy aircraft. Less commonly, fighters are used to attack land and sea targets.

          By function

          Front-line fighters - designed to gain air supremacy by destroying enemy aircraft in a maneuverable air battle day and night in all meteorological conditions. Also used for fire support ground troops.
          Multipurpose fighters - designed to destroy both enemy aircraft and ground forces. In the design of such aircraft used Stealth technology, which makes it possible to conduct covert destruction of enemy aircraft, as well as the ability to strike at important ground targets of the enemy. Intended to conduct battles day and night in all meteorological conditions, while remaining invisible to radar screens.
          Fighter-interceptors - are designed to protect ground objects from air attack weapons (airplanes, cruise missiles) by destroying them with rocket weapons at long distances from the protected objects.
          Deck Fighters
          Multifunctional fighter - designed to perform all the tasks assigned to all types and types of fighters.
          Note: in relation to the Russian Air Force with the adoption of the 4 generation aircraft (MiG-29 and Su-27), the boundary between the types of fighters has disappeared. These aircraft can successfully perform all the tasks assigned to front-line aviation, air defense aviation (as fighter-interceptors), carrier-based aviation (in appropriate modifications, adapted to the conditions of basing on the ship).

          "By weight" this crap came up with "wiki"
    3. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 6 January 2018 14: 19
      +4
      I myself am not a pilot and not near, but logically I understand that the MIG-35 is much cheaper, and under certain conditions, for example, on defense it will not give way to the Su-35 when it does not need to fly somewhere far ... The Su-35 is more expensive, but at the same time it has several advantages, such as a long flight range and a large bomb load, that is, for certain tasks it cannot be replaced when it is necessary to cover something far away or to bomb something far away ...

      I think we need both heavy ones like the Su-35 and medium ones like the MIG-35 and the really light and simple single-engine (analogue of the F-15) would not be in the way ... That will strengthen not only our defense, but also the export potential ...
      1. hrych
        hrych 6 January 2018 16: 36
        +3
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        light and simple single-engine (analogue of F-15) ..

        only f-16, and Eagle is twin-engine and not light
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 January 2018 20: 33
        +2
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        I think we need both heavy ones like the Su-35 and medium ones like the MIG-35 and the really light and simple single-engine (analogue of the F-15) would not be in the way ... That will strengthen not only our defense, but also the export potential ...

        A light fighter is not needed. It will not be effective and vulnerable. All fighters are now being made multi-purpose, and a light vehicle does not fit this requirement. That is why the MIG-35 from the MIG-29 light front-line fighter turned into a multi-purpose medium fighter. MIG-35 and should replace the MIG-29 fleet (light), and this is not less than 200 aircraft ... maybe 35 will buy more for our VKS. Plus export. For example, the SU-30 in our VKS 100 Su-30SM and 20 Su-30M2 for 2017, and about 450 aircraft were exported.
    4. zyzx
      zyzx 6 January 2018 15: 03
      +2
      If on fingers and in a simplified form, then enemy bombers fly, Mig 35 takes off and lands them, if our bombers fly, Su 35 takes off, escorts them to the place of bombing, landing enemy fighters.
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 6 January 2018 15: 07
        +4
        And where did the enemy escort fighters go ...
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          1. looker-on
            looker-on 6 January 2018 15: 55
            +2
            Quote: zyzx
            Are you dumb or intelligent? Not where did not go. They will also land on occasion. But apparently you are still stupid, for every Jew should know that when they bomb you, the first ones, despite the losses, will bring down bombers.

            Tin. And what are you doing on this site? You would have revealed potential in the Duma.
            1. zyzx
              zyzx 6 January 2018 15: 58
              0
              What exactly is tin? Do you see the liberal, sobbing exclusively with tulips?
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 6 January 2018 16: 02
            +4
            It seems to me that we have already gone through it - like WE DOG THEM !!! - The same rake and rams are also the same!
            With a weak adversary there can be different options ... such are not rocking at us!
            The real enemy is armed and is not inferior to us, probably even bypassing in some positions. "butt" us with them at suicide for the whole planet! So look carefully, make plans, arm NADO, but not for war, but for PEACE,
          3. Shahno
            Shahno 6 January 2018 16: 10
            +2
            Thanks. All clear. Good luck on this front ....
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 6 January 2018 16: 26
              +5
              Everything is normal, adequate.
              And the front is better than the one that ........ which is terrible!
              1. Shahno
                Shahno 6 January 2018 16: 37
                +1
                Yes, I agree. Still, feeding hawks is better in words than in blood. At least, this is the position of many members of the Knesset and ordinary Israelis, it seems to me. I hope so.
        2. Grits
          Grits 7 January 2018 14: 33
          0
          And where did the enemy escort fighters go?
          They were previously landed by interceptor fighters. You have none.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 7 January 2018 15: 17
            +3
            We also have few of these and they are scattered around the perimeter of the country! A single "pirate" raid against us, this is suicide, and a massive attack is the murder of the entire PLANET.
  3. Egorovich
    Egorovich 6 January 2018 12: 46
    +6
    Excellent flight MIG-35 !!!
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 6 January 2018 13: 07
    +1
    And that the Air Force Commander does not know the difference between WEAPONS and guidance or suppression systems based on the use of quantum generators? Maybe he just said a little too much?
  5. askort154
    askort154 6 January 2018 13: 08
    0
    It would be nice to carry out state tests with business trips to Syria, to check for invisibility of the "invisible" F 22. Walk alongside, showing the Yankees the "middle finger". bully (Although during the Cold War, in such rapprochements that took place regularly (the so-called "interception", the pilots showed each other a "thumb" - a mutual greeting). And in times of aggravation, such as today, it came to collisions that ended in disasters . yes
  6. onix757
    onix757 6 January 2018 13: 27
    +3
    Therefore, by the 25th year they will be adopted. But still in the series you need to run at the "killed" factory. By then, the product will be out of date.
  7. m.cempbell
    m.cempbell 6 January 2018 13: 32
    +3
    If we proceed from the cost of production, the MiG-35 is much cheaper. Another question is which party will be ordered. Well, the engines. Su-35 and MiG-35 have different aerodynamic configurations, completely different gliders (even though it’s not striking to a non-specialist), drying has super-maneuverability, powerful avionics, and the ability to carry heavy weapons - this is a fighter in its purest form. MiG-35 is a front-line aircraft. He is inferior to Su-35 in maneuverability (although this indicator is at least as good as Rafal), can work on the ground (that is, carries some of the functions of the attack aircraft), plus a good ship modification (and not Frankenstein Su-33). It combines the tasks of a front-line fighter, an air defense fighter, a navy fighter, and partly an attack aircraft. Those. purely theoretically, these aircraft should be about twice as large as the Su-35.
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 6 January 2018 15: 36
      +6
      Mig 35, cheaper in cost of production, as well as operation. Kerosene is burned almost one and a half times less during flight. This is the advantage of the moment 35 over sous. As for maneuverability, it is not inferior to anything.
      1. sabotage
        sabotage 6 January 2018 19: 03
        0
        Handsome men! So they took the cost calculated. Is the prime cost clearly correlated with the mass of the fighter?
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 7 January 2018 00: 17
          +2
          Rivet much longer soo. laughing. It wins in maneuverability - the turning radius is less. hi
          1. sabotage
            sabotage 7 January 2018 09: 08
            0
            Suppose there are 5000 rivets in the SU. Automatic riveter is inexpensive. The hour of the locksmith’s working time is even less. So where does the favorite difference of 1,5-2 times in price come from?
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 8 January 2018 15: 36
              +1
              No, not one and a half times, 30 percent, but it is also a lot of money + operating costs, less time for manufacturing.
    2. aliis-M
      aliis-M 6 January 2018 23: 09
      0
      knows how to work on the ground (that is, it carries part of the functions of an attack aircraft), plus a good ship modification (and not Frankenstein Su-33). It combines the tasks of a front-line fighter, an air defense fighter, a navy fighter, and partially a ground attack aircraft. Those. purely theoretically, these aircraft should be approximately twice as large as the Su-35.
      it would be if it were not for the SU-30SM, which is cheap, and embodies all the functions of the MiG-35, and even better (well, except for ship-based, but given that we have only one Admiral Kuznetsov, this does not really change anything)
      1. tomket
        tomket 7 January 2018 01: 47
        0
        Quote: aliis-M
        if not for the SU-30СМ, which is cheap, and embodies all the functions of the MiG-35,

        Well, let's just say that the cheap version of the Su-30СМ is good only with a thrust vector, this is where its advantages in terms of advancement end .....
        1. aliis-M
          aliis-M 7 January 2018 15: 16
          +1
          Well, let's just say that the cheap version of the Su-30SM is good only with a thrust vector, this is where its advantages in terms of advancement end

          Its main advantage is that it is well mastered in production.
          Why is the MiG-35 better? An AFAR for our Air Force is not a fact that it will be, they’ll put a look at the slotted hole, the same variable thrust vector, too, did a lot of things in range, but still can’t compete with heavy ones, it won’t be able to wear PCR, etc. etc.
          Expanding the nomenclature is a minus, a headache for logistics.
          This plane was just too late, its values ​​are less than in the same Su-30SM (which, in addition to everything, has great opportunities for modernization) is purchased in order to preserve the MiG design bureau and toss it out for export orders, I think, yes and not only me, apparently ...
  8. tchoni
    tchoni 6 January 2018 13: 53
    +2
    we built and the couple didn’t ...
    I become like Ogurtsov from Carnival Night, who chastised clowns for clowning ....
    If the car is as good as they say about it - why test it?
    If not - why empty cries?
    1. _Ugene_
      _Ugene_ 6 January 2018 14: 04
      +4
      If the car is as good as they say about it - why test it?
      Well, you didn’t think about it, without testing, no equipment is put in a series, the more jambs are revealed during the tests, the better the plane will be in the army
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 6 January 2018 17: 09
        +2
        Quote: _Ugene_
        If the car is as good as they say about it - why test it?
        Well, you didn’t think about it, without testing, no equipment is put in a series, the more jambs are revealed during the tests, the better the plane will be in the army

        Yes, he, poor fellow, already no one had experienced: both Indians and Brazilians, in my opinion ....
        The plane is already almost 10 years old ... it needs to be upgraded - and we all experience ....
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 6 January 2018 17: 35
          0
          Yes, it, poor fellow, already who only did not test
          who could have tested it if it wasn’t in serial production, and the MO don’t care about Indians and Brazilians, we have our own procedures. And as for the “modernization” - in my opinion, it is not needed at all for our army, but the MIG RSK must be somehow preserved, and they are trying.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 January 2018 21: 57
            +5
            Having several aircraft with similar performance characteristics has its pros and cons ....
            Perhaps it would be right to support the MIG Design Bureau ... to give an adequate task, to finance and demand when the time comes for a report for the work ... I hope they can develop a worthy product !!!
        2. Vadmir
          Vadmir 6 January 2018 22: 51
          +2
          Yes, he, poor fellow, already no one had experienced: both Indians and Brazilians, in my opinion ....
          Under the name MiG-35, there were several aircraft that participated in various displays at air shows and tenders (MiG-29M, MiG-29 with UVT, MiG-35 for the Indian tender, etc.). Yes, all of them were based on the MiG-29, but essentially differed markedly. That modification, which is now called the MiG-35, has other characteristics than what many people mean by the MiG-35 (on Wikipedia the characteristics of one of the machine versions are indicated, the real ones will be different, for example, there will be no UVT). The current MiG-35 is basically a land version of the MiG-29K.
          1. tchoni
            tchoni 7 January 2018 10: 25
            0
            Quote: Vadmir
            Yes, he, poor fellow, already no one had experienced: both Indians and Brazilians, in my opinion ....
            Under the name MiG-35, there were several aircraft that participated in various displays at air shows and tenders (MiG-29M, MiG-29 with UVT, MiG-35 for the Indian tender, etc.). Yes, all of them were based on the MiG-29, but essentially differed markedly. That modification, which is now called the MiG-35, has other characteristics than what many people mean by the MiG-35 (on Wikipedia the characteristics of one of the machine versions are indicated, the real ones will be different, for example, there will be no UVT). The current MiG-35 is basically a land version of the MiG-29K.

            Those. in aviation repeats the situation of armored forces? Where the super-duper armature was appointed the flagship, and the troops are turned over and more than average t72b3 ....
            So here? We will have the flagship piece Su57, and the massive MiG29 Cube is improved and slightly doped? -)
            Very funny)
  9. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 6 January 2018 14: 24
    +4
    Why take into service another type of aircraft generation 4ение? Yes, and while it goes in part, about 5 years will pass no less? He is now not new, but what will happen in 7 years? Apparently, only to ensure that the plant, losing the competition of SU, to support, based on demand from third world countries? And if there is no demand? In general, some dubious dispersal of funds.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 January 2018 14: 28
      +7
      Quote: Sergeant71
      Why adopt another type of aircraft of the 4➕➕ generation?

      To sell better. They will put 24 pieces into the troops and calm down on this
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 7 January 2018 00: 19
        +1
        Andrei, GDP spoke for 150 boards. hi
    2. onix757
      onix757 6 January 2018 14: 30
      +6
      The plant did not lose the competition. He systematically reached the pen. And this despite the fact that the products themselves do not compete with each other and the machines of both kb are in demand
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 6 January 2018 15: 18
        +4
        Quote: onix757
        despite the fact that the products themselves do not compete with each other and the machines of both kb are in demand

        Loot in the budget is limited. That's why they "reached the pen."
        And do not care that "both are needed" ...
    3. tomket
      tomket 7 January 2018 01: 49
      0
      Quote: Sergeant71
      And if there is no demand?

      Well, Egypt has already ordered.
  10. HEATHER
    HEATHER 6 January 2018 15: 04
    +2
    Fly bird! Good luck in becoming. Be simple and cruel! good
  11. siberalt
    siberalt 6 January 2018 15: 16
    +2
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Su-35 - heavy fighter, MiG-35 - light fighter.

    Yeah. It is also necessary to make a medium fighter. Then there will be no troubles which to send rationally. winked
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 6 January 2018 15: 22
      0
      For interceptions, of course, good. But the nomenclature as in the dairy department is also bad, as well as the super multi-functional version ... of one aircraft.
  12. 452336
    452336 6 January 2018 15: 24
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi

    I think the MiG-35 is mainly an export product. This is a 4 generation car

    It’s so cadet for me too. Only not 4, but 4 ++ with all the nishtyaks corresponding to this category. Like that: AFAR, engines with all-perspective UVT, a digital control system, the ability to carry high-precision weapons.
    1. Vadmir
      Vadmir 6 January 2018 22: 39
      0
      engines with all-perspective uvt
      MiG-35 will not have UVT, at least for the initial modification intended for the aerospace forces.
  13. viktorch
    viktorch 6 January 2018 16: 26
    +2
    next modernization, how much dough they sawed, guard, we are waiting for a new modernization instant 45, instant 55, instant 65, etc.
    1. tomket
      tomket 7 January 2018 01: 50
      0
      Quote: viktorch
      next modernization, how much dough they sawed, guard, we are waiting for a new modernization instant 45, instant 55, instant 65, etc.

      Another ESPERD_ECONOMIST_DEGENERATE .....
  14. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 6 January 2018 17: 06
    0
    ... those who say - "So ... or yes" rubs his hands and dances "hawa nagil", and yes the little ones are glad that Christians celebrate the birth of the Israelite god 2 times a year - December 25 and January 7. How can the design of the past millennium - the beginning of the seventies of the 20th century be considered modern ?! The FU-35 and FU-22 are more technologically advanced and even the FU-15 has more modernization potential than the "Soviet flyers" ... The Russians forgot their Gods, therefore they live a thousand years in slavery and rejoice in all sorts of mythical achievements under the gorilka and the "Polish" vodka ... So yes, with hawa nagily you ...
  15. 452336
    452336 6 January 2018 17: 18
    +1
    Quote: Lone gunman
    The Russians have forgotten their Gods, therefore they live a thousand years in slavery and rejoice in all sorts of mythical achievements under the vodka and “Polish” vodka ... So yes, with a hawky nagila you ...

    That's understandable. Kvass and Perun are our everything. Just what does this have to do with instant 35?
  16. turbris
    turbris 6 January 2018 17: 50
    0
    Of course, we need both the Su-35 - it will replace the existing Su-27, and the MiG-35 - it will replace the existing MiG-29. And in order to figure out which fighter for what, the Su-35 is a long-range fighter with a take-off weight of 34500 kg, the MiG-35 is a short-range fighter with a take-off weight of 23500 kg - this is the immediate future generation 4 +++ aircraft, and 5th generation aircraft this is a more distant prospect and they will not begin to be massively adopted soon, not only because of technical, but because of financial considerations.
    1. tchoni
      tchoni 7 January 2018 10: 30
      0
      Quote: turbris
      5th generation airplanes - this is a more distant prospect and they will begin to arrive en masse not soon, not only because of technical, but because of financial reasons.

      For us, yes)
      But for the bourgeoisie - still not) In the new year, their mass production of production 35 starts. They promise to collect a hundred a year)))
  17. Fury
    Fury 6 January 2018 18: 54
    +2
    It would be better to concentrate efforts on equipping the Russian Air Force with more advanced Su-57
  18. turbris
    turbris 6 January 2018 21: 08
    +1
    Quote: Fury
    It would be better to concentrate efforts on equipping the Russian Air Force with more advanced Su-57

    No, it’s not better, because in the near future neither production facilities nor finances make it possible to make such an amount of Su-57. A combat-ready aircraft must be available now.
  19. Vadmir
    Vadmir 6 January 2018 22: 14
    +2
    The categoricality of some commentators is very surprising. Of course, in a global conflict, the Su-35 is better than the MiG-35, but the last global conflict ended in 1945. But since then there has been a huge number of local wars, in which the cheapness of equipment and the economy of operation come first, a light fighter is needed for these purposes (perhaps the MiG-35 is not ideal in this regard - it’s heavy, but it’s cheaper and more economical than the Su-35 )
    This does not mean that we should not be ready for a war with NATO, but such a war is extremely unlikely, but we certainly can’t avoid local wars, which means Russia, like the United States, should be ready for conflicts of both types and the planes should be as light so heavy.
    Again, most countries are not going to participate in the global war, and they need a heavy fighter, and hence the export potential of a light or even medium fighter is obviously higher than that of a heavy one.
  20. ved_med12
    ved_med12 7 January 2018 08: 48
    0
    We have Tu 22, Tu 95 ... and Tu160. All of them find their "niche" ...
    Once again I will express my opinion: Mig 35 is needed, VERY needed! Need yesterday! And and not in the amount of 24 pieces, and not even 150 ... but pieces of commercials 600 ...
    1. sabotage
      sabotage 7 January 2018 09: 29
      0
      Where can I get pilots for them?
  21. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 7 January 2018 15: 58
    +3
    Let them out. Competition is only good.
  22. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 7 January 2018 18: 38
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Su-35 - heavy fighter, MiG-35 - light fighter.

    I think the MiG-35 is mainly an export product. This is a 4 generation car and it is late. VKS went forward.

    Yes Yes. therefore, you are massively purchasing F-35. Happiness to you at your home! wassat laughing tongue
  23. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 7 January 2018 18: 40
    0
    Quote: ved_med12
    We have Tu 22, Tu 95 ... and Tu160. All of them find their "niche" ...
    Once again I will express my opinion: Mig 35 is needed, VERY needed! Need yesterday! And and not in the amount of 24 pieces, and not even 150 ... but pieces of commercials 600 ...

    It will not be enough, not enough. 5000 is necessary, otherwise there will be nothing to fight .. From the West With Poland, the Baltic States and Norway, in the East with Japan, still somewhere around Romania crawls with Ukraine for a couple .. am
  24. Simon
    Simon 7 January 2018 18: 46
    +1
    But in general - a cool thing MIG-35, small and nimble, with such weapons! good
  25. Simon
    Simon 7 January 2018 18: 48
    +1
    Quote: Dzafdet
    Quote: ved_med12
    We have Tu 22, Tu 95 ... and Tu160. All of them find their "niche" ...
    Once again I will express my opinion: Mig 35 is needed, VERY needed! Need yesterday! And and not in the amount of 24 pieces, and not even 150 ... but pieces of commercials 600 ...

    It will not be enough, not enough. 5000 is necessary, otherwise there will be nothing to fight .. From the West With Poland, the Baltic States and Norway, in the East with Japan, still somewhere around Romania crawls with Ukraine for a couple .. am

    Buddy The main thing is to start, and then there will be even more than 5000 pieces! yes
  26. Simon
    Simon 7 January 2018 18: 50
    +1
    Quote: sabotage
    Where can I get pilots for them?

    No problems, full of youth - learn! yes
  27. Romanenko
    Romanenko 7 January 2018 21: 22
    0
    It's time, it's time. Before you flood the army with 5-generation airplanes, it’s good to think about 4 ++, they can do a lot of things that the Fives will not be able to do.