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For tanks came up with a thermal "stealth hat"

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Russian Tanks will receive a thermal "invisibility cap". It effectively protects combat vehicles from heat-guided munitions. The “cap” is mounted on the engine-transmission compartment and distorts the infrared signature of military vehicles. At the same time, it can be easily made by conventional repair units of a motorized rifle regiment. The novelty was developed by military engineers from the Moscow Higher Combined Arms Command School (MosVOKU). Experts called the emergence of a new defense very timely: thermal-guided submunitions were widespread in foreign armies, Izvestia reports.


For tanks came up with a thermal "stealth hat"


As told in Mosvok, the sample of the device created by the specialists of the school has already been tested. It is designed to protect armored vehicles from high-precision self-aiming submunitions. The work was carried out on the own initiative of the developers.

A special device with insulating plates is mounted on the combat vehicle. As a result, the pattern of the heat sink changes, and the shock core hits a false target located behind the geometric contour of a real machine.
- explained Alexander Kotrovsky, Associate Professor of the Department of Operation and Repair of Arms and Military Equipment of MosVOKU

The design offered by the developers from Mosvok is quite simple. This is a removable box made of heat-insulating materials on asbestos or ceramic base. Holes are made in the box under specially calculated angles that dissipate heat from the engine.

The manufacture of the device does not require significant costs - due to the simplicity of the design. Its serial production is possible by regular repair battalions.
- Alexander Kotrovsky specified.

According to Sergey Suvorov, an expert in the field of armored weapons and equipment, the protection of armored vehicles from self-targeting combat elements is a very urgent scientific and technical challenge.
Photos used:
Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 5 January 2018 18: 19
    35
    For tanks came up with a thermal "stealth hat"
    Sect javelin will lose his god laughing
    1. 210ox
      210ox 5 January 2018 18: 25
      +1
      That's interesting too. If you simulate the signature of Abrams, then the dart will not hit?
      Quote: Observer2014
      For tanks came up with a thermal "stealth hat"
      Sect javelin will lose his god laughing
      1. hrych
        hrych 5 January 2018 19: 30
        22
        Quote: 210ox
        dart misses?

        Everything in Donbass, fast and cheap, like all ingenious good
        So, engineers sit, create a javik for years, eat grants, test, implement, and then the lapniks pinned up and put on raspberries wassatcovered with slate wassat
        Professor okay, he reassured everyone, poked his nose in practice and said don't take a javelin, buy a spike ... from me, wassat Indians rejected a lot laughing
      2. Dart
        Dart 5 January 2018 22: 46
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        If you simulate the signature of Abrams

        So far no one has learned to imitate the signatures of even inanimate objects .....
        1. Maz
          Maz 5 January 2018 23: 19
          0
          The Javelin missile is equipped with an infrared homing head (IR seeker),
          1. The comment was deleted.
    2. No pasaran
      No pasaran 5 January 2018 18: 25
      +3
      We just come up with a new one. An adherent of the sect.
      1. forester
        forester 5 January 2018 21: 34
        +4
        Quote: No pasaran
        We just come up with a new one. An adherent of the sect.

        Think, think - a night pot to help you
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 5 January 2018 21: 57
          +3
          Quote: forester
          Quote: No pasaran
          We just come up with a new one. An adherent of the sect.

          Think, think - a night pot to help you

          I don’t know about “think”, but asbestos, it's asbestos! Yes, it is banned in many countries, after the cut of which, a person is “bullet” as a deliverance.
          I exaggerate, but for example in the USA, asbestos panels, almost np in suits were disposed of.
          Where are the new items?)))
          It is dust and especially amphibole asbestos that is dangerous if it gets into the lenses and mk.
          1. not main
            not main 5 January 2018 22: 51
            +3
            Quote: Scoun
            Quote: forester
            Quote: No pasaran
            We just come up with a new one. An adherent of the sect.

            Think, think - a night pot to help you

            I don’t know about “think”, but asbestos, it's asbestos! Yes, it is banned in many countries, after the cut of which, a person is “bullet” as a deliverance.
            I exaggerate, but for example in the USA, asbestos panels, almost np in suits were disposed of.
            Where are the new items?)))
            It is dust and especially amphibole asbestos that is dangerous if it gets into the lenses and mk.

            But I’m wondering, what do you choose? Javelin to the tower or asbestos behind the tower?
            1. Scoun
              Scoun 6 January 2018 13: 22
              +2
              Quote: non-primary
              Quote: Scoun
              Quote: forester
              Quote: No pasaran
              We just come up with a new one. An adherent of the sect.

              Think, think - a night pot to help you

              I don’t know about “think”, but asbestos, it's asbestos! Yes, it is banned in many countries, after the cut of which, a person is “bullet” as a deliverance.
              I exaggerate, but for example in the USA, asbestos panels, almost np in suits were disposed of.
              Where are the new items?)))
              It is dust and especially amphibole asbestos that is dangerous if it gets into the lenses and mk.

              But I’m wondering, what do you choose? Javelin to the tower or asbestos behind the tower?

              Ask the US military and Iraqis who have problems after using dirty uranium cores.
          2. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 5 January 2018 23: 44
            +3
            Darn! And I did not know ... there is a bag of asbestos in the zashashnik. I use it as a liquid dowel. Go throw it away? It’s dangerous, after all! True, I’ve been using it for 30 years :-)
          3. KCA
            KCA 6 January 2018 09: 23
            +2
            Do you know DuPont? So because of them, asbestos was banned, synthetic heat insulators are much more expensive than natural ones, he is a complete ignoramus in mineralogy, but he read as a specialist, he writes that Russian asbestos is different from American, different structure, we produce fibrous, and in America, needle, so American can really pose a threat to health, but what does not pose a threat? Even cucumbers, everyone who at least once in his life ate cucumbers or died, or dies later ...
            1. karish
              karish 6 January 2018 09: 28
              +4
              Quote: KCA
              Do you know DuPont? So because of them, asbestos was banned, synthetic heat insulators are much more expensive than natural

              Personally, I know 4 people who earned asbestosis (lung cancer) --- who worked at the power plant (not coal, to immediately erase the questions about the natural radioactivity of coal) - on which the thermal insulation was asbestos.
              1. KCA
                KCA 6 January 2018 09: 55
                +3
                From 90 to 91 he worked as a radio installer, from 2004 to 2009 he was in a room with radio installers, I don’t know something about the fact that someone had lung cancer, but they didn’t come up with asbestos in soldering irons, maybe there are super soldering irons for 100500 rubles, but I haven’t met such people, maybe it was not a reel, but a violation of the PTB? Yes, and 4 cases of cancer in one enterprise are somehow too much, if a special commission had been created in the USSR, all the newspapers would have written, yes, I still found asbestos in the barn, a 1,5 meter by 1 canvas, I didn’t need anything on the farm, I dragged him to work and also, with all the employees, he breathed
          4. Vasily Ivanovich_2
            Vasily Ivanovich_2 6 January 2018 11: 00
            +2
            Asbestos is harmful and prohibited. This is for domestic use, and it is useful to use even depleted uranium in the military, which is several orders of magnitude more harmful than asbestos. Look, read how many troops came from the wars where the United States used depleted uranium shells and now have cancer or died of cancer.
    3. LASVEGAS
      LASVEGAS 5 January 2018 18: 30
      +6
      I do not think that Javelin was used in trials. And so - God forbid that the sect has lost god :)
      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 5 January 2018 19: 17
        +5
        Quote: LASVEGAS
        I do not think that Javelin was used in trials. And so - God forbid that the sect has lost god :)

        it means that it can be made in Donbas, and the athletes will again jump from the “joy” that the striped gave them javelas
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 5 January 2018 18: 50
      +5
      As they say, the need for inventions is cunning. Cheap and cheerful. what
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 5 January 2018 19: 43
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        As they say, the need for inventions is cunning.

        Well, why is it a goal? This idea is already 10 years old ... maybe more .. In my opinion, the Swedes wanted to integrate such a system into their BT, only there the signature was supposed to simulate a passenger car .. They made it easier for us ... sent a hot stream of gases away from the tank .., creating false image away from the target ..
    5. Maz
      Maz 5 January 2018 23: 12
      0
      Hello peter? How is javelin induced? By heat?
  2. san4es
    san4es 5 January 2018 18: 23
    14
    ... heat-guided submunitions are widespread in foreign armies

    1. Professor
      Professor 5 January 2018 18: 30
      +6
      RBC-500 cluster bomb. The effect is overwhelming

      Really staggering is the lack of effect of use in combat conditions.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 5 January 2018 18: 36
        30
        Professor
        Really staggering is the lack of effect of use in combat conditions.
        Well, ask strongly. And try the tank column on yourself. Russia hasn’t had enemies with a bunch of equipment on the marches yet. You can be the first. Dare Literally everything: in your hands. laughing
        1. Professor
          Professor 5 January 2018 18: 40
          +4
          Quote: Observer2014
          Professor
          Really staggering is the lack of effect of use in combat conditions.
          Well, ask strongly. And try the tank column on yourself. Russia hasn’t had enemies with a bunch of equipment on the marches yet. You can be the first. Dare Literally everything: in your hands. laughing

          Hm? I’m embarrassed to ask, what then did these ammunition use in Syria? Laughter for the sake of? Then the goal is achieved. lol
          1. san4es
            san4es 5 January 2018 19: 00
            +8
            Quote: Professor
            ... hm? I’m embarrassed to ask, what then did these ammunition use in Syria? Laughter for the sake of? Then the goal is achieved. lol

            stop ... Not these ... Worked on areas of live NUR syre, with high-explosive fragmentation submunitions (i.e. inside the bomb / NUR)

            1. ZVO
              ZVO 5 January 2018 19: 17
              +4
              Quote: san4es
              Quote: Professor
              ... hm? I’m embarrassed to ask, what then did these ammunition use in Syria? Laughter for the sake of? Then the goal is achieved. lol

              stop ... not these ...


              How is it not these?
              This is a photo from Syria of those very combat homing elements ...
              1. san4es
                san4es 5 January 2018 19: 23
                +4
                Quote: ZVO
                ... This is a photo from Syria of the very combat homing elements ...

                request ... did not work, it happens:
                1. Professor
                  Professor 5 January 2018 22: 01
                  +1
                  Quote: san4es
                  ..It didn’t work, it happens:

                  Already a lot of them did not work there.
                  1. not main
                    not main 5 January 2018 23: 00
                    +4
                    Quote: Professor
                    Quote: san4es
                    ..It didn’t work, it happens:

                    Already a lot of them did not work there.

                    What did you want? Should ammunition with an expiration date be disposed of? By the way, we have a lot of them! Where to go?
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 6 January 2018 12: 44
                      0
                      Quote: non-primary
                      Quote: Professor
                      Quote: san4es
                      ..It didn’t work, it happens:

                      Already a lot of them did not work there.

                      What did you want? Should ammunition with an expiration date be disposed of? By the way, we have a lot of them! Where to go?

                      Do not tell tales about the disposal of expired ammunition in Syria. No sober officer would ever take the risk of using expired ammunition.
                      We are disposed of by industry. He personally participated in the development of the line for the disposal of 155-m artillery cluster shells. Each shell is disassembled by robots, all its components are recycled.

                      Quote: Okolotochny
                      How much is MUCH? In grams and pieces, list pzht?

                      I counted dozens.
                      1. not main
                        not main 6 January 2018 17: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: Professor
                        Do not tell tales about the disposal of expired ammunition in Syria.

                        Did I talk about expired ammunition? I had about ammunition with an expiration date! Agree that these are different concepts.
                  2. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 6 January 2018 01: 44
                    +5
                    How much is MUCH? In grams and pieces, list pzht?
                2. Alex Justice
                  Alex Justice 6 January 2018 10: 15
                  +4
                  It didn’t work, it happens:

                  1. san4es
                    san4es 6 January 2018 10: 36
                    +3
                    Quote: Alex Justice
                    It didn’t work, it happens:

                    belay ... A shot for RPG-7 (TBG7V) ... I went from the side of the leg (somehow)
          2. Observer2014
            Observer2014 5 January 2018 19: 02
            19
            Professor
            Hm? I’m embarrassed to ask, what then did these ammunition use in Syria?
            Everywhere you were, everywhere you were bully
            1. CAT BAIYUN
              CAT BAIYUN 5 January 2018 19: 13
              30
              Everywhere you were, everywhere you were

              Yeah .. And send, right, nowhere laughing
              1. pjastolov
                pjastolov 5 January 2018 19: 20
                15
                Quote: KOT BYUN
                Yeah .. And send, right, nowhere

                look - they will send you for the chosen one laughing
                1. CAT BAIYUN
                  CAT BAIYUN 5 January 2018 19: 24
                  15
                  I mean for God's chosen? Come on... laughing
                  I, like, "framed." Evening, dear. hi
                  1. pjastolov
                    pjastolov 5 January 2018 19: 26
                    10
                    Quote: KOT BYUN
                    I, like, "framed." Evening, dear.

                    well then drinks
        2. ZVO
          ZVO 5 January 2018 19: 15
          +2
          Quote: Observer2014
          Professor
          Really staggering is the lack of effect of use in combat conditions.
          Well, ask strongly. And try the tank column on yourself. Russia hasn’t had enemies with a bunch of equipment on the marches yet. You can be the first. Dare Literally everything: in your hands. laughing


          They answered, just snap back?
          No matter what, but blurt out ...
          The above photo - photo "Fiasco, this Bro from Basalt"who came up with the design. which Obliged self-destruct, but for some reason does not.
          Accordingly, the chief designer with his comrades - should not just be scolding. he should be punished so that every cleaning lady screams with fear ...
          This is military equipment.
          Each instance may be the very last straw ... or not become it
      2. vladfill
        vladfill 5 January 2018 18: 37
        +7
        It’s a pity I didn’t fall to the promised one, though.
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      4. DenZ
        DenZ 5 January 2018 21: 11
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        Really staggering is the lack of effect in combat

        In Syria there was an application. The video even skipped. But it seems that our effect from this application did not quite like our effect.
  3. Vita vko
    Vita vko 5 January 2018 18: 24
    +1
    protection of armored vehicles from self-aiming combat elements - a very urgent scientific and technical task
    Very timely development. Now the American Javelin ATGM can be scrapped or immediately replaced with vodka and lard.
  4. Professor
    Professor 5 January 2018 18: 26
    +3
    According to Sergey Suvorov, an expert in the field of armored weapons and equipment, the protection of armored vehicles from self-targeting combat elements is a very urgent scientific and technical challenge.

    Yah? Who told him that? I thought TOU, Javelin or Halffire relevant, but here it is. request
    1. san4es
      san4es 5 January 2018 18: 36
      +7
      Quote: Professor
      .... I thought TOU, Javelin or Halffire relevant, but here it is. request

      wink
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic 5 January 2018 18: 42
      +3
      Professor, Spike is not on your list! lol That is, ATGM with aiming at a target on a television channel is irrelevant? ?? belay Or forgot to add to the list of relevant military anti-tank western systems ??? belay
      1. Professor
        Professor 5 January 2018 18: 47
        +3
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Professor, Spike is not on your list!

        A lot is missing. For example, Milan or the Chinese Red Arrow.

        Quote: Herkulesich
        That is, ATGM with aiming at a target on a television channel is irrelevant? ??

        And what is the relationship with the method described in the article for countering homing submunitions with an impact core?

        Quote: Herkulesich
        Or forgot to add to the list of relevant military anti-tank western systems ???

        Did not forget. Your audience is excited by any mention of precisely these means of destruction of tanks. Especially the Javelins. lol
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 5 January 2018 19: 10
          11
          Quote: Professor
          Especially the Javelins.

          Oleg hi the Javelin fans sect is located to the right of Rostov on the Don, they have been praying for the fourth year already on the Javelins, it seems they have prayed, but the American folder has forbidden to give the Javelins to the Aboriginal people, only the owners can, and the Aborigines will pray like an icon. hi
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 5 January 2018 19: 35
            +6
            Quote: vovanpain
            Oleg the sect of Javelin fans is located to the right of Rostov on the Don, the fourth year they pray at the Javelins

            Yes, here the site is full of sectarians and fans of the Javelins. They all and Oleg, too, as in this video believe that when a tank hits, even a goose flies off, like in a movie!
          2. Professor
            Professor 5 January 2018 22: 13
            +3
            Quote: vovanpain
            Oleg the Javelin fans sect is located to the right of Rostov on the Don, they have been praying for the fourth year already on the Javelins, it seems they have prayed, but the American folder has forbidden to give the Javelins to the hands of Aborigines, only the owners can, and the Aborigines will pray like an icon.

            I studied Javelin well and translated an article about his equipment on this site. nonetheless, I have other idols.

            Quote: APASUS
            Yes, here the site is full of sectarians and fans of the Javelins. They all and Oleg, too, as in this video believe that when a tank hits, even a goose flies off, like in a movie!

            I have enough video from Syria. We look from 2: 30
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 6 January 2018 20: 31
              0
              [quote = APASUS] Yes, the site is full of sectarians and fans of the Javelins. They all, Oleg, too, as in this video believe that even when a tank hits a goose, it flies off like in a movie! [/ quote]
              I have enough video from Syria. We look from 2: 30
              [/ Quote]
              And what does that prove?
              Here you have Syria and T-55
              1. Professor
                Professor 6 January 2018 21: 31
                0
                Quote: APASUS
                And what does that prove?

                This proves what happens with tanks and that the famous movie with the T-72 is not fake, and even a goose’s fly off the tank, like in a movie!

                Quote: APASUS
                Here you have Syria and T-55

                Ricochet is not often. Not always so lucky tank as in the movies! wink
          3. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 6 January 2018 01: 47
            +6
            Volod, to the right of Rostov Volgograd region. To the left, south-left.
        2. Korax71
          Korax71 5 January 2018 23: 31
          +1
          Probably envy repeat nothing that our military-industrial complex will not give birth to ptur 3 generations in agony sad
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 January 2018 10: 50
      0
      Quote: Professor
      According to Sergey Suvorov, an expert in the field of armored weapons and equipment, the protection of armored vehicles from self-targeting combat elements is a very urgent scientific and technical challenge.

      Yah? Who told him that? I thought TOU, Javelin or Halffire relevant, but here it is. request

      Professor, can you read? Suvorov writes about defenses, and you list the means of attack. These concepts are a little different.
      1. Professor
        Professor 6 January 2018 12: 45
        0
        Quote: Piramidon
        Professor, can you read? Suvorov writes about defenses, and you list the means of attack. These concepts are a little different.

        I can read. Means of protection against not relevant means of attack.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 6 January 2018 16: 46
          0
          Quote: Professor
          I can read. Means of protection against not relevant means of attack.

          There are topical defense tools, and there are topical attack tools. Do not pile everything together. Where did you read that anti-tank systems are not relevant?
  5. Antidote
    Antidote 5 January 2018 18: 27
    +2
    It would be better if KAZ was developed and implemented than asbestos boxes at a special angle.
    1. m.cempbell
      m.cempbell 6 January 2018 08: 15
      +1
      KAZ is good, but electronics may fail, but here it’s simple and reliable.
  6. Egorovich
    Egorovich 5 January 2018 18: 34
    +7
    Everything ingenious is simple and everything simple is ingenious. "In genius, 1% of talent and 99% of labor." (Thomas Alva Edison)
  7. zzdimk
    zzdimk 5 January 2018 18: 35
    0
    How effective is it? And if a disc from above reacts to metal, then how to change the signature of a tank weighing 50 tons?
  8. Nemesis
    Nemesis 5 January 2018 18: 35
    +4
    Officials in Russia took the fashion of making empty statements about allegedly done work ... But in fact there is almost nothing but pilot projects and experimental samples, often not of the best quality (just remember the Titanic project 22350 with non-working radars and air defense systems, which will soon be will rot on endless trials that cost Russia excessively expensive)
  9. Vikalst
    Vikalst 5 January 2018 18: 45
    +2
    Compared to helicopters and airplanes, a tank can come up with a lot of simple ways to trick the same Javelin ..... For example, put rubber 3 meter hoses on the exhaust pipes and put a piece of teplon with foil on the engine compartment ... They say they tried it in the Donbass ....
  10. karish
    karish 5 January 2018 18: 49
    +7
    The design offered by the developers from Mosvok is quite simple. This is a removable box made of heat-insulating materials on asbestos or ceramic base. Holes are made in the box under specially calculated angles that dissipate heat from the engine.


    Quote: Vikalst
    Compared to helicopters and airplanes a tank can come up with a lot of easy ways to trick the same javelin..... For example, put rubber 3 meter hoses on the exhaust pipes and put a piece of teplon with foil on the engine compartment

    belay laughing
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 5 January 2018 18: 54
      +2
      Is that what you really are? Like, self-deception, you won’t do electronics, and all that? ??
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic 5 January 2018 18: 55
      +3
      Alexander, in the photo is your child, as I understand it? ?? good
      1. karish
        karish 5 January 2018 19: 47
        +5
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Alexander, in the photo is your child, as I understand it? ?? good

        Mine? belay
        My already captain epaulettes wears a second year. soldier
  11. Herculesic
    Herculesic 5 January 2018 18: 53
    +1
    In general, asbestos is harmful to health, the crew will need to be checked more often by doctors if it is asbestos that will be used for this development!
    1. opus
      opus 5 January 2018 19: 06
      17
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Generally, asbestos is harmful to health.

      asbestos itself not harmful.
      Inhalation of asbestos dust and its sedimentation in the lungs, yes.
      Dissolution in a weakly acidic environment. And then ...
      "Our" asbestos is excreted by the bronchi (mucus, cough)
      And even in this case, the harm of asbestos to a person can manifest itself in ten or more years ...
      not preprynny "consumption"
      Chrysotile asbestos is chemically inert: insoluble in water, not destroyed by oxygen, solar radiation, ozone.

      Amphibole asbestos significantly differs from chrysotile content of magnesium oxide and silica, as well as its properties.
      Amphibole asbestos is acid resistant, highly valued and used in the chemical industry.
      Amphibole asbestos (No. 527) occurs as veins and veins in rocks of sedimentary and igneous origin; It is highly resistant to high temperatures, acids and alkalis.
      Previously, this material was mined mainly in Europe, USA and Australia.
      This type of asbestos is prohibited. used in EU countries where this type of asbestos was previously widely used

      In Russia, large deposits of chrysotile asbestos are in the Urals.
      we have chrysotile asbestos.

      Do not hear stupid Western propaganda
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 5 January 2018 19: 22
        +4
        Opus or Anton! Thank you for the explanation !!! hi good +++ !!!
        1. opus
          opus 5 January 2018 20: 34
          +1
          Opus or Anton

          Who cares?
          Though you call a pot, just do not put it in the oven.
          No matter how you call (even call the devil), only feed with bread.
          As you want to call, just drink vodka.

          Glad to help.
          Happy New Year!
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 6 January 2018 09: 52
        +1
        Quote: opus
        Do not hear stupid Western propaganda

        Well .... "Western propaganda" may be dumb; but chrysotile asbestos in the EU and the USA has not been successfully launched (even before the sanctions). The fact is that large reserves of chrysotile asbestos are concentrated in Russia ... and as much as you like to prove that chrysotile asbestos does not have the harmful properties inherent in amphibole-asbestos-American manufacturers of building materials. competition is not needed!
  12. viktorch
    viktorch 5 January 2018 18: 59
    0
    WOW, THERMODYNAMICS LAWS CANCELED
    1. hrych
      hrych 5 January 2018 19: 25
      +4
      just applied laughing
    2. opus
      opus 5 January 2018 23: 09
      +5
      Quote: viktorch
      WOW, THERMODYNAMICS LAWS CANCELED

      wauuuuu.
      And sho is not so
      ?

      or like this

      put on the site m / y IR receiver and the target, radiating heat sheet of asbestos

      and guaranteed to get a decrease in thermal emission even when in contact with a hot surface
      Networks Intermat Arcus for example


      so or

      thermal difference home radiation in the background, which is painted with Intermat Low Emissivity Paint (low emissivity paint), and the house in the foreground, which is not painted
      1. dali
        dali 6 January 2018 15: 05
        +2
        Quote: opus

        wauuuuu.
        And sho is not so
        ?

        Yes, it’s some kind of foreign Troll, it can be a stubborn fallow ... look at his comments and understand everything ... he doesn’t always understand the Russian language ...
        1. opus
          opus 6 January 2018 15: 14
          0
          Quote: Dali
          Yes, this is some kind of foreign Troll, it can upset non-basic


          Article 29

          1. Everyone is guaranteed freedom of thought and speech.

          2. Propaganda or agitation that incite social, racial, national or religious hatred and enmity is not allowed. Propagation of social, racial, national, religious or linguistic superiority is prohibited.

          3. No one can be forced to express or reject their opinions and beliefs.

          4. Everyone has the right to freely seek, receive, transmit, produce and distribute information in any legal way. The list of information constituting a state secret is determined by federal law.

          5. Guaranteed freedom of the media. Censorship is prohibited.

          wink
          But me comrade. Smirnov constantly bans and censor (his) violates

          THE CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION

          (as amended by the Laws of the Russian Federation on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation from 30.12.2008 N 6-FKZ, from 30.12.2008 N 7-FKZ, from 05.02.2014 N 2-FKZ, from 21.07.2014 N 11-FKZ)
          in part
          Chapter 2. The rights and freedoms of man and citizen
          Article 29
          what
    3. dali
      dali 6 January 2018 15: 01
      +1
      Quote: viktorch
      WOW, THERMODYNAMICS LAWS CANCELED

      Ё ё ё ё ё ... ... ... ... ... ... ... viktorch you are again "fucked up" ... learn to read carefully in Russian ... although you are more like a foreign provocateur ...
    4. viktorch
      viktorch 6 January 2018 16: 03
      +1
      why are you so excited? as if some kind of achievement, not otherwise built aerospace fighter?

      a set of cloak of ten years already exists and no one needs na_r, but here they invented a bicycle for the hundredth time and cheers achievement
      1. opus
        opus 7 January 2018 02: 03
        0
        Quote: viktorch
        why are you so excited? as if some kind of achievement, not otherwise built aerospace fighter?

        Zoom - Zoom
        Zoom-Zoom philosophy

        what so mazda
        http://www.mazda-dynamica.ru/mazda-world/zoom-zoo
        m/
        Quote: viktorch
        was upset?

        ?
        what
        Intermat is the single source of stealth technology coatings for military applications, developed after more than 20 years of in-house research and development (R&D). We specialize in the research, development, and production of stealth / anti-thermal coatings and radar absorbing materials. Production is carried under the highest standards, in compliance with the ISO 9001: 2008 quality assurance provisions.

        Shows how know-how?

        HOWEVER YOU DON'T GET THERE .... but shit here.
        I understand, there is a mona get on the ears, and then ... well, how Smirnov (a) will carry (in the sense of diarrhea)
        He (V. Smirnov) is not following you, violating the Constitution of the Russian Federation ...
        including DO NOT BUY, blow over.
        Although, I agree)
        Quote: Dali
        viktorch you are again "wrought out" ... learn to read Russian carefully ... although you are more like a foreign provocateur ...


        Quote: Dali
        Yes, this is some kind of foreign trill, it can be a stubborn non-basic ... look at his comments, and you will understand everything ... he does not always understand Russian


        to the feces of our "censors" the attitude is always reverent, I would say "love".
        They need you, for the rating, for the fruitful humus
  13. vladimirasha
    vladimirasha 5 January 2018 19: 35
    +1
    But why didn’t they come up with a fight for the airbase, just do the guys. Why did the guys die?
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 5 January 2018 19: 50
      +8
      Quote: vladimirasha
      Why did the guys die?

      Because there is war .. and from shelling at close range with mortars .. only patrolling and the work of special services can save. Technically, it’s difficult to intercept a stupid blank which is in flight for a few seconds .. difficult .., especially if you don’t know the direction in advance.
      And how can a distortion system of a thermal signature help from such a power supply?
      What is the point of your attempt to defecate ..?
  14. Doliva63
    Doliva63 5 January 2018 19: 41
    +5
    Something I missed - long ago, “armor” tanks got sick ?! belay drinks
    1. faridg7
      faridg7 6 January 2018 04: 14
      +1
      You BMP is not armored vehicles? As far as I remember, platoons who had BMP-2 staff in them, their overalls were always smeared with fuel oil at the very worst. They just dreamed about MTLB.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 6 January 2018 17: 23
        +4
        I have nothing against BMP drinks But the article is specifically about tanks. I have never seen a tanker from MosVVOKU. But MTLB-U did not meet in the infantry. Where is it?
        1. faridg7
          faridg7 6 January 2018 18: 50
          +2
          Article
          A special device with heat-insulating plates is mounted on a combat vehicle. As a result, the picture of the heat sink changes, and the shock core strikes a false target located behind the geometric contour of a real machine
          not a tank, but a combat vehicle. This can be understood as anything. and MTLB in the Far East and the north as a part of motorized rifles often met. Yes, and MTLBu in managing the mouth too
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 7 January 2018 18: 31
            +4
            About the article - I agreed, in this paragraph about the tank not a word drinks I didn’t serve in the North and Far East, I don’t know, but I just don’t remember from the school I’m the staff of the MTS at MTLB. And in the company management - the same as in the company - BMP or armored personnel carrier. In memory MTLB - it's somewhere in the artillery laughing Although, I remembered, a comrade served in the north, they had MTLB, but he is a border guard. drinks However, the SA was such a big country that everything is possible! drinks
  15. assa67
    assa67 5 January 2018 19: 43
    +8
    I’ll tell you about the first "invisibility cap" .... top sicret -burn it before reading ..... on the "Carnation" on the exhaust, a raincoat tent is put on, a hose from the shit truck 15m in the sleeve .... the imager found the end of the hose
    Quote: Observer2014
    Sect javelin will lose his god
    Reply Quote W
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 5 January 2018 20: 26
      +3
      What can’t you imagine with a raincoat)))))
      At the time, when I switched to winter heating of the KAMAZ-55111 body (dump truck), the place of the exhaust heated up to red, but you are a raincoat, reinforced with a rubber hose.
      Tent fire truck watered?))))))
      1. VALERIK_097
        VALERIK_097 5 January 2018 20: 35
        0
        assa67 put you count, for an excellent imagination))))))
        1. assa67
          assa67 5 January 2018 23: 35
          +6
          not, dear, that's a fact .....
      2. assa67
        assa67 5 January 2018 23: 39
        +6
        what did you warm up there, I don’t know ...... learn materiel, fighter
        1. VALERIK_097
          VALERIK_097 9 January 2018 16: 42
          0
          I'm not a fighter, I'm in the frontier. He served in the army. There were two in the MTLB Detachment Park. The most useless cars have always stood.
          Unique - what the heck were thermal imagers in those years.
          I do not want to go into polemic, but you are talking nonsense. I will answer through the PM.
  16. tchoni
    tchoni 5 January 2018 19: 49
    +1
    Hat "is installed on the engine-transmission compartment and distorts the infrared signature of military vehicles. At the same time, it can be easily manufactured by conventional repair units of a motorized rifle regiment. The novelty was developed by military engineers from the Moscow Higher Combined Arms Command School (MosVOKU).

    Oh, whose one is scary for me to read it. And dumb to hear. The cap, panimash, invisible man made. On your knee, from nothing! Yes, such that all the bourgeois tune! In!.....
    Only the engine is not the only place where heat is released from the tank .........
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 5 January 2018 20: 13
      +5
      Quote: tchoni
      the engine is not the only place where heat is released from the tank

      Tell me, please, from what place does the tank produce at least 1% of the amount of heat that the engine emits?
      BTW, the task of the "invisibility cap" is not to make the tank invisible in IR, but to "protect armored vehicles from self-aiming combat elements." By way distortions this very picture in IR.
      And about the "invisible hat" was invented by the author ... author, author laughing
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 5 January 2018 21: 10
        0
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Tell me, please, from what place does the tank produce at least 1% of the amount of heat that the engine emits?

        From the tracks) A lot of heat is released)
        And, if the tank is firing, then the barrel, in spite of the thermal housing, is heating up ....
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 January 2018 21: 16
          +8
          Quote: tchoni
          From the tracks) A lot of heat is released)

          Judging by the emoticons, it dawned on you ...
          Neither the gun when firing, nor, moreover, the caterpillars for heat generation with the engine ... are incomparable.
          Therefore, all rubbish with thermal guidance is directed to the tank MTO.
          The task of the “cap” is, roughly speaking, to “deceive” the GOS of this rubbish by distorting the familiar “picture”. And (by no means) hide the tank from it.
          Further - the head of rubbish ceases to understand, "where am I and where are my things", and the tank remains intact.
          That's about the mechanics yes
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 5 January 2018 23: 43
            -1
            It is possible to deceive the infrared seeker only by the absence of thermal radiation. The same javelins have the function of remembering the thermal signature. It is important for the homing head that the signature does not merge with the surrounding area.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 6 January 2018 00: 09
              +7
              Quote: Korax71
              the same javelins have the function of memorizing a thermal signature

              And what is a "thermal signature", do not remind? I forgot... wink
              Quote: Korax71
              homing it is important that the signature does not merge with the surrounding area

              It’s important to the head, damn it, homing, damn it so that what she sees in front of her looks like a tank ... and not like a pioneer, damn it, a bonfire ... for example.
              In the infrared range, of course, since she "sees" it in it.
              The “invisible hat”, as the author (author, author) called it for some reason, just makes the tank unlike that it’s “used” to see the infrared seeker ... damn it.
              It’s already impossible to chew smaller, call request
              1. Korax71
                Korax71 6 January 2018 07: 25
                -1
                Well, try to chew. It is not strong in scientific terms. It has no memory to remember all the thermal signatures of all types of equipment. It means that before the shot it remembers the signature of a specific target. The point is. Here are several types of working equipment that you cool the homing head, grab it in the sight and fire a shot. and it will fly precisely to this target, and will not rush between them. pointing precisely at heat sources.
                1. tchoni
                  tchoni 6 January 2018 08: 13
                  0
                  Quote: Korax71
                  that before the shot she remembers the signature of a specific target

                  Nobody remembers anything, gentlemen, experts. He just sees the warmest place and tries to get into it. Even a bull-calf smolders if it is driven in front of her at arm's length.
                  And the selection of the target due to the narrow field of view and the entire short-lived.
                  Remember, gentlemen, experts, there is ammunition, it must be cheap, and you give it almost artificial intelligence ....
              2. tchoni
                tchoni 6 January 2018 08: 22
                0
                https://youtu.be/q6RZ9l_Fw4U вот вам, друг мой, ссылочка. чувак снимает парад победы. В разных спектрах. Обратите внимание на контрастные детали.
              3. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 6 January 2018 09: 23
                +1
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                The “invisible hat”, as the author (author, author) called it for some reason, just makes the tank unlike that it’s “used” to see the infrared seeker ... damn it.

                The dual-band infrared coordinators of SPBE are more "primitive" than the thermal imaging GOS "Javelina"! Unlike the Javelin, the SPBE IR sensor does not see the thermal "portrait" of the target (tank), but sees the thermal "spot" (engine) on the tank ... On the tank (!) ... for this 2 range! To some extent, you can "draw a parallel" between MANPADS "Strela-2" and "Needle"! Thus, it is possible to create protection, for example, from adjustable heat-emitting (on the one hand) and heat-shielding (on the other hand) panels. That is, you can move the “heat spot” of the tank engine to that part of the tank’s body, where the PT ammunition doesn’t fall critical for the tank! I do not see anything “news” in the message about the “invisibility cap”; I proposed a similar idea to MO at the beginning of 90's ...
                1. Nikolaevich I
                  Nikolaevich I 6 January 2018 09: 32
                  +1
                  PSBy the way, with the help of the so-called "invisibility caps" you can try to protect yourself from SPBE ... for example, like SPBE-D and the like. But now they are adopted by SPBE-K, which are equipped not only with IR coordinators, but also mini -MRLS ... thermal (!) "Invisibility caps" will not be enough!
          2. tchoni
            tchoni 6 January 2018 08: 07
            +1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Judging by the emoticons, it dawned on you ...
            Neither the gun when firing, nor, moreover, the caterpillars for heat generation with the engine ... are incomparable.

            If my and the thermal imager jumped around the landfill, they would correctly interpret the emoticons. And so - and I don’t want to explain who and what gives off heat, to what extent .... If you want, prank in YouTube. something like "moving equipment on a thermal imager" - you yourself will understand what and who is warming ....
            And about the "hat" I will tell you this - it is not the first and not the last ...
            and the effect it will have, if any, as from anti-cumulative Reshotoks - correctly made ones give some effect, but are not a guarantee.
            Generally infuriates our likening Khokhlov. Those will take the notion of the times of the Vietnam or Afghanistan war and scream that they created a wunderwaffe .... And we there too ....
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 6 January 2018 10: 10
              +5
              Quote: tchoni
              If my and the thermal imager jumped around the landfill, they would correctly interpret the emoticons. And so - I don’t want to explain who and what gives off heat, to what extent ...

              You see, I also "once jumped" around the training ground ... only on the tank.
              And for some reason the fighters did not stick their hands in the chassis to warm them, but under the exhaust. And we slept (in winter, at the same training ground) for some reason, not clinging tightly to the ice rinks, but exactly behind the tower, on the blinds, wrapping ourselves in tarpaulin ...
              There were fools, right?
              Quote: tchoni
              make a joke on YouTube. something like "moving equipment on a thermal imager" - you yourself will understand what and who is warming ...

              "Joked," looked ... not saddened. And the fact that the chassis is warmer in any case than the armor - it’s also a hedgehog, sorry, understandably.
              The engine is much warmer ... much yes
              Quote: tchoni
              And about the "hat" I will tell you this - it is not the first and not the last ...

              I agree. As well as about the "effect".
              Quote: tchoni
              Generally infuriates our likening Khokhlov. Those will take the notion of the times of the Vietnam or Afghan war and scream that they created a wunderwaffe .... And we there ...

              Journalists ... they also want to eat ... moreover, it is desirable - tasty and a lot. And they really don’t know how to work and don’t want to request
              PS: in order of curiosity: why do you need to ride around the training ground ... with a thermal imager? belay
  17. 452336
    452336 5 January 2018 20: 45
    +2
    At one time he was shocked by the video where the work of the Reb "Vitebsk" was demonstrated. The missiles literally bounced off the invisible dome that covered the helicopter. Then Syria happened, and the war, as you know, is the best test for new technologies. I think the new invisibility hat turned out no worse)
  18. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 5 January 2018 20: 50
    +3
    to me, please, the tank is fully equipped, oh, no, walk like a walk, wrap two and some kind of armored personnel carrier in addition, for the entire remaining change.
    1. TOR2
      TOR2 5 January 2018 22: 47
      +1
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      to walk so walk

      And let's shake the GOS tracking system. We wrap around the decommissioned MT-24 SOEP. There is nothing good to disappear. Let’s arrange several IR sensors on the tank, and of course the control unit where without it. Based on the readings of the sensors, the control unit will change the opening angle of the keys standing in the power supply circuit of the xenon lamp of the ESA. The emission spectrum of the EECS should overlap the emission spectrum of the engine.
  19. Vard
    Vard 5 January 2018 21: 45
    +1
    Everything ingenious is simple .. Three minutes and from a microwave oven a radar meter ...
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 6 January 2018 07: 40
      +2
      Quote: Vard
      Everything ingenious is simple .. Three minutes and from a microwave oven a radar meter ...

      Bullshit" ! fool
  20. Maz
    Maz 5 January 2018 23: 15
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Observer2014
    Professor
    Really staggering is the lack of effect of use in combat conditions.
    Well, ask strongly. And try the tank column on yourself. Russia hasn’t had enemies with a bunch of equipment on the marches yet. You can be the first. Dare Literally everything: in your hands. laughing

    Hm? I’m embarrassed to ask, what then did these ammunition use in Syria? Laughter for the sake of? Then the goal is achieved. lol

    And you carefully read the different warheads of the product, and the possibilities for targeted use when launching single missiles laughing
  21. Tektor
    Tektor 5 January 2018 23: 45
    +1
    Or maybe you just need a powerful LED IR spotlight at the top of a long antenna? A false target, like, to retract the sight.
  22. Manul
    Manul 6 January 2018 10: 10
    0
    And what will prevent designers from making corrections in the final approach of the projectile if the tanks are equipped with such protection in series? They will introduce an algorithm for advancing a thermal target by a given number of meters - and that's it what request
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  24. Evgeny Strygin
    Evgeny Strygin 6 January 2018 14: 29
    0
    very often it has been invented recently. From personal observations - around the world.
  25. Sebastian Pereira
    Sebastian Pereira 6 January 2018 16: 13
    +1
    Well son, your javelins helped you
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  27. hezbola
    hezbola 7 January 2018 20: 28
    0
    What will the associate professors of the department do with GSN by lidar, by wire, by television, by UV channel, by magnetic? tow2a / and b, fgm148 is the end of the 80s - beginning of the 90s and those are not the best of those times