Media: Militants destroyed seven aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces during the shelling of Khmeimim airbase

According to the publication Kommersant, citing its own sources, 31 December 2017, the Hmeimim airbase (Syrian province of Lattakia) was subjected to mortar fire by radical Islamists, as a result of which combat aircraft were lost

The emergency at the Syrian airbase Hmeimim “Kommersant” became known from two military and diplomatic sources. Without going into details, they reported that the militants of one of the terrorist groups fired at a Russian military facility in Syria, as a result of which four Su-24 bombers, two Su-35C fighters, one An-72 transport, and an ammunition depot that detonated were actually destroyed. after hitting a mortar shell. In total, according to unofficial data, more than ten soldiers could have suffered.

The publication notes that if the data sources are correct, this incident can be considered one of the most serious incidents during the military air operation of Russia in Syria.

At the moment there is no official confirmation of this incident from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. The military department only officially confirmed the death of two pilots piloting the Russian Mi-24 helicopter that day. According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, there was no fire impact on the helicopter - the technology itself failed.

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[Observer2014]

It began. There is a joke about the lieutenant Rzhevsky and Natasha Rostov. Where they walked, he fell, he shook it off and went on. And the reteller to the sixth:
-Rzhevsky Rostov set up the bandwagon.
And the one hundred and one hundred and first in general:
-Rzhevsky sat on a birch and sent all the NA.
So wait for the video and official explanations from our MO.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

There is no longer any joke. We will wait for an official clarification from the MO. Although, if you look at the “Military Acceptance”: “Hmeimim Base. Part 2,” you can’t see the protective shelters for the aircraft. But on Shairat they are.

[newcomer]

found someone to believe, “merchant” is still that merchant. how many times “b” fired a bullet, it turned out to be zilch.

[katana]

Quote: newbie

found someone to believe, “merchant” is still that merchant. how many times “b” fired a bullet, it turned out to be zilch.

Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

[zyzx]

Well, the newspaper is lying, every week it writes about a sharp drop in the ruble, it has been writing for 2 months already. So after the new year, the first article about the collapse came out .... well, where is the smoke? Where is the fire?

[Thrall]

Fake. We diverge.

[novel66]

but to have fun, since we’ve gathered?

[Inok10]

Quote: novel xnumx

but to have fun, since we’ve gathered?

... ah, the point? ...

[novel66]

the main thing is to start, and there it will go

[Vladimirsky]

Perhaps the turntable was overwhelmed when it tried to cover the air base?
And they are silent, because there is nothing to report enthusiastically.

[Dryuya2]

Quote: Vladimirsky

Perhaps the turntable was overwhelmed when it tried to cover the air base?

[Dr_engie]

And where is the rear? There is also no front right now.
And about the power transmission line - it really happens, it seems like the Swan helicopter hit the wires, as they say.

[Tatyana]

4 of January, in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation denied information about the destruction of Russian military aircraft.
However, the department confirmed the fact of the shelling itself, and also reported that two Russian servicemen were its victims

[sgazeev]

Quote: Vladimirsky

Perhaps the turntable was overwhelmed when it tried to cover the air base?
And they are silent, because there is nothing to report enthusiastically.

The Mi-28 is almost "ancient" and a technology failure is possible. I remember ours drove a pair of Mi-28s from the factory to the customer of the NNA GDR. They were forced to sit at our Finovsky airfield, drove the oil from the gearbox, found a crack, the Mapovskys changed the gearbox in a few hours. So you will not guess where you will fall.

[helmi8]

Quote: sgazeev

Mi-28 is almost "ancient" and a technology failure is possible. I remember ours drove a pair of Mi-28 from the factory to the customer NNA GDR

Do not confuse anything? Mi-28 and Mi-24 are completely different helicopters ...

[Reserve officer]

"The publication notes that if the source data is correct ..."

Those. this publication does not have confidence in the veracity of the statement. But the craving for the dissemination of unverified information is enormous. The rating is ...

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Stock Officer

"The publication notes that if the source data is correct ..."

Those. this publication does not have confidence in the veracity of the statement. But the craving for the dissemination of unverified information is enormous. The rating is ...

So, a businessman who likes to rivet something like that ... especially if it is negative and against our government !!! in this case, along the way, they used the case of the tragic death of our two military men and muddied a rather large-scale fake !!! rare creatures !!!

[Antidote]

I want to believe, but no.

[Kent0001]

Specialists said that fake. Explosion in the photo from the inside, not from the outside. Where the pictures are from is not known.

[passerby5]

this is not drying

[Lucy]

Inside is what and how?
Where the photo came from, it’s already more than once the surname, and the addressee was laid out.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Antidote

I want to believe, but no.

what not ??? Have you ever read that he dashed "businessman" in his article ???

[Lucy]

https://vk.com/roman_saponkov

[Nikolai Grek]

the plot begins at 9,00 min ... at 10,36 - 10,41 "29th" SU !!!

By the way, it is very likely that this plot, let’s say, is an asymmetric answer to the fake of the “businessman” !!!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Antidote

I want to believe, but no.

the plot begins at 9,00 min ... at 10,36 - 10,41 "29th" SU !!!

By the way, it is very likely that this plot, let’s say, is an asymmetric answer to the fake of the “businessman” !!!

[newcomer]

you, then katana where you fly ahead of the engine? the reader “b”.

[kartalovkolya]

Is it really not clear that now the task of the “Liberests" in their mass media is to pour as much shit as possible on Russia and Putin, maybe in the bustle of the election campaign, and then you look and forget ...

[jovanni]

Quote: kartalovkolya

Is it really not clear that now the task of the “Liberests" in their mass media is to pour as much shit as possible on Russia and Putin, maybe in the bustle of the election campaign, and then you look and forget ...

In this case, the Ministry of Defense should sue these comrades-in-arms for defamation, because this message (if it is false) Maliciously distorts the situation with the combat readiness of our Armed Forces. And this, in turn, provokes disadvantages to new attempts to attack us ...

[al.schenaev]

And that MO has no other ways to restore the truth without trial and investigation?

[freddyk]

kartalovkolya, Putin now does not need to be afraid of liberals, there is no threat from them, but the Communists, who can move him, and you can’t blame him on the State Department, they are also patriots. And he also refuses to debate. Is he too self-confident?

[icy]

The owner of Kommersant is A. Usmanov, who is not a tax resident of Russia with 2015. Draw conclusions.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: icas

The owner of Kommersant is A. Usmanov, who is not a tax resident of Russia with 2015. Draw conclusions.

Knight of the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" IV Degree

[Sinbad]

Yes, we regularly give every seam or order. It’s a pity that they don’t shoot then as under Stalin!

[Captain45]

Quote: icas

The owner of Kommersant is A. Usmanov, who is not a tax resident of Russia with 2015. Draw conclusions.

He’s also the husband of the head coach of the rhythmic gymnastics team Irina Vinner. There was a TV report recently, Winner opened a new rhythmic gymnastics center where there is literally everything from zero. The cost of the center is 2 billion rubles. I wonder where she got them? how my husband found a stash

[kush62]

Captain45 Today, 11:51 ↑ New
He’s also the husband of the head coach of the rhythmic gymnastics team Irina Vinner. There was a TV report recently, Winner opened a new rhythmic gymnastics center where there is literally everything from zero. The cost of the center is 2 billion rubles. I wonder where she got them? how my husband found a stash

We have opened a new rhythmic gymnastics center in Russia where there is literally everything from zero. Is it really not patriotic or much worse than buying Chelsea.

[Captain45]

[quote = kush62] We have opened a new rhythmic gymnastics center in Russia where there is literally everything from zero. Is it really not patriotic or much worse than buying Chelsea. [/ quote
So that’s the question, Winner is already opening the third such center and all of them are built with money from A. Usmanov. I think this is no worse than buying Chelsea.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Captain45

So that’s the question, Winner is already opening the third such center and all of them are built with money from A. Usmanov. I think this is no worse than buying Chelsea.

If you are talking about Novogorsk, then this is a cottage village, the whole text is dedicated to him, and the school is there for a look - and obviously not for ordinary children, I don’t see a boarding school, for example, for nonresident people. By the way, Usmanov owns shares of the London Arsenal, and where does Chelsea ?!
http://www.od-novogorsk.ru/

[Axon]

and what's wrong with that?

[You Vlad]

Quote: icas

The owner of Kommersant is A. Usmanov, who has not been a tax resident of Russia since 2015.

Where do you get the information from?

[just exp]

but there is another proverb - to liberals to believe, not to respect themselves.
Do you remember how was the case with a type of discreet base with our helicopters? and how did satellite images of the type of destroyed turntables be shown there?
So what ? where is all this? where are all those iksperds and their pictures?

[Flies]

There were no destroyed tops, but there were damaged ones. It was exactly. Unfortunately.

[just exp]

so they wrote about the destroyed and put photos where burned turntables are visible.
and what? this fake became true because of a fake photo?

[Flies]

I repeat once again that this is not a fake. Cars were sent from Syria 3 sides. Where, from where the regiment and how I know I am not going to spread. But the security of the airbase then loosed. That's all. Whether you believe it or not, I don't care. But in the light of that approach, I'm afraid that anything is possible.

[katana]

Quote: just EXPL

but there is another proverb - to liberals to believe, not to respect themselves.
Do you remember how was the case with a type of discreet base with our helicopters? and how did satellite images of the type of destroyed turntables be shown there?
So what ? where is all this? where are all those iksperds and their pictures?

Go down below the comments, there forum users have already posted these

[79807420129]

Quote: katana

Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

A miracle in feathers, how many times did Kommersant launch a bullet to you without the knowledge? Western publications are also silent, although if there is such a thing, they would be trumpeted about it at all angles.

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

So I have a video how SU 57 works on the IG

A colleague, where did the SU-57 come from in Syria?

[Non liberoid Russian]

you are pathetic in your efforts to make a lie a lie ... feykotvink cheap

[Awaz]

there was a shelling attempt. From this, all sorts of people jump and fan the topic.

[avt]

Quote: katana

Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

Wai me! Eats, everything is eaten by the Russians. Now show the smoke. Well, specific photos from the google there, or the site of the militants. When ours just arrived, the photos were posted at the moment. When the turntable was overwhelmed - the video was instantly posted. Here, as many as 31 were burned by almost a squadron - nothing. When the facts lay out, then let the smoke.

[stalkerwalker]

"Russian Defense Ministry: as a result of shelling by militants of the Khmeimim airbase, two servicemen were killed" - the Russian Ministry of Defense gave an answer.

And some, especially sharp on the tongue, cutting the "truth-womb" of the sharpening of the Armenian spill, cannot answer in an adult way. Tokma bark around the corner.

[masik172]

well, that is, the bearded had to get into the air base, and take off?

[sabakina]

Armenians, the Russians have another proverb: "Not all the gold that glitters."

[flicker]

they often count on it, they say, since there is no smoke without fire, you can blow up the smoke and everyone will think that the fire ... the more the smoke, the more the fire will seem.

[97110]

Quote: katana

The Russians have a saying: "There is no smoke without fire!"

The sons of lawyers also have a proverb: "Look, who benefits." Given the usual habit of Russians, especially those with the rank of bureaucrats, the habit of obtaining permission to publish any information from the highest possible official, a prolonged silence can be interpreted as confirmation of the presence of fire, and as confirmation of the lack of access to the decision-maker on the publication of the corresponding status. On the other hand, there is no doubt about the ability of the enemies of Russia to destroy once again (now in Syria!) The 76th Airborne Division, together with 8 aircraft and an enormous number of personnel secretly buried somewhere where fresh graves special people specializing in the search for such graves will be found a special feeling of hatred for Russia in the blood.

[Prisoner]

It happens. Any chemist will tell you this or magazine-x-ah.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: katana

Quote: newbie

found someone to believe, “merchant” is still that merchant. how many times “b” fired a bullet, it turned out to be zilch.

Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

There is nothing to remember here. Everyone believes the old Russophobe Katana right away. He is such a master in Russian sayings!

[Aqela]

Quote: katana

Quote: newbie

found someone to believe, “merchant” is still that merchant. how many times “b” fired a bullet, it turned out to be zilch.

Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

Smoke without fire happens. At least fog.

[novel66]

Good! after the first mine, a helicopter would take off and there would be no one to shoot from

[verner1967]

Quote: novel xnumx

after the first mine, a helicopter would take off and there would be no one to shoot

it would be nice, but the pilots are not suicides to run under mortar fire, on May 11, 1984, during the shelling of the airfield in Bagram, no one took off, although the losses were great.

[novel66]

but the second lieutenant Grasshopper - took off!

[verner1967]

Quote: novel xnumx

but the second lieutenant Grasshopper - took off!

A good movie, but life, unfortunately, is far from a movie.

[novel66]

yes, yes!

[verner1967]

Quote: novel xnumx

yes, yes!

so from ....

[al.schenaev]

Then the price of such a life is worthless

[verner1967]

Quote: al.schenaev

Then the price of such a life is worthless

Well, yes, you are our sofa warrior, at home it’s more convenient to attack

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: novel xnumx

but the second lieutenant Grasshopper - took off!

On your profile picture with a cap! It seems that they should sort out the ranks ... He has shoulder straps not of the second lieutenant, but of the lieutenant. Anyway - this is a movie character, but in life everything is more complicated ...

[novel66]

boring, dear! but in life without such Grasshoppers, it’s just more difficult. I remembered how a junior lieutenant, all the more so when they let out the younger ones, and in the photo - well, the photo from the film is even further from life, than the film itself

[verner1967]

Quote: novel xnumx

I remembered how a junior lieutenant, all the more so when they let out junior

and you don’t bend your soul, he was one of their group who was released by a lieutenant, you see, there were merits.

[novel66]

accelerated release - "take-off and landing" ... what kind of merits are there, and is it really the rank?

[verner1967]

Quote: novel xnumx

accelerated release - take-off and landing ...

and that, someone “a pilot from God” and then became “Kozhedub”, and someone barely starting to fly, died in a plane crash. And then we studied together. For your information, the best graduates of accelerated issues were awarded the military rank of lieutenant.

[Lucy]

And how does this happen in time and place?
You probably didn’t see the “live” RS, and how the aircraft burn in the parking lot after shelling, in the presence of military guards, minefields, occasional shelling on the squares of nearby territories, air cover of the airfield at night with a pair of helicopters with flights 2x180 with off. by the lights.
The planes were really burned.
This happens, happened, and will be. Get used to the guys.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: lusya

And how does this happen in time and place?
You probably didn’t see the “live” RS, and how the aircraft burn in the parking lot after shelling, in the presence of military guards, minefields, occasional shelling on the squares of nearby territories, air cover of the airfield at night with a pair of helicopters with flights 2x180 with off. by the lights.
The planes were really burned.
This happens, happened, and will be. Get used to the guys.

the plot begins at 9,00 min ... at 10,36 - 10,41 "29th" SU !!!

By the way, it is very likely that this plot, let’s say, is an asymmetric answer to the fake of the “businessman” !!!

[Lucy]

I am not fond of TV propaganda, especially "Russia1". I didn’t even watch the proposed video.
I do not have 2500 comments! But.
I rarely comment on the basis of my practical experience. The protection and defense of the airport crooks, I think, has not fundamentally changed in 30 years.
The fact that the planes burned is quite real.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: lusya

I rarely comment on the basis of my practical experience

Intrigued, really.
I got into your comments, and what did I see?
And here, for example:

Quote: lusya December 7, 2017 19:16

I do not agree.
I knew individual scholars-trap-takers who were able to blast into a bridge during the night, l-ka-inspector for half the salary. This is a garage elite that needs to be bowed to them.
Happy Holidays!

And, basically, things like that.
To say that I am disappointed ... perhaps not enough

Quote: lusya

The fact that the planes burned is quite real

So really burnedor real that could burn?
Express your thoughts clearly, and people will reach for you ... Lucy.

[Lucy]

What is the meaning of your writings on the subject?
And where does the holiday at IAS?
And who are the cheesecakes, do you know? Or again disappointment?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: lusya

...

I gave your comment, which seemed to me ... typical. In response to your

Quote: lusya

I rarely comment on the basis of my practical experience

Judging by your comments, you really have rich experience.
But - not about that: enlighten, do not let the fool die: yours

Quote: lusya

burned airplanes is quite real

- What, in translation into Russian generally understood, means?

[1 Navigator]

Already on all news sites they write, but you all do not believe.

[xetai9977]

The Stopudovo turntable was bombarded at the same time as he was trying to figure out the shooters. MO naturally will not talk about it. Copied from the Americans. They also have the technique of "never knock down, she falls." 2 pilots and 2 at the base. This is what is recognized. Surely something definitely happened there. And everyone will find out about this only after the video materials posted by the militants.

[svp67]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

There is no longer any joke.

Correctly. Now there are enough programs when you can look at the Earth from satellites, on-line, that is, in real time. Find the Latakia airfield and take a look at the traces of the explosion and burnt planes .... I can see 7 Su-24s, and three Su-30s and Su-35s each ....

[sabotage]

Online, in real time? Which service has these features?

[210ox]

Interesting. News from the 31st, today is the fourth .. Even if we take into account the holidays and the insanity of everything that can only be. The pictures would already be in the messages. So far, nothing .... Although ...

Quote: sabotage

Online, in real time? Which service has these features?

[Shahno]

If our pictures may come up later, or not at all. Depending on the political situation.

[Non liberoid Russian]

Yes, they’re not there, they don’t come up

[svp67]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

Yes, they’re not there, they don’t come up

To the point

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

We’ll see. I’m not sure about the availability of current satellite images. And information about the shelling may be fake. So I generally have a video on how 57 SU works on the IG .

[untouchable6891]

Are you playing ARMA 3? NOT constructive. What for?

[milling machine]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

There is no longer any joke.

Correctly. Now there are enough programs when you can look at the Earth from satellites, on-line, that is, in real time. Find the Latakia airfield and take a look at the traces of the explosion and burnt planes .... I can see 7 Su-24s, and three Su-30s and Su-35s each ....

Online? Real time? Satellite imagery. Yes you are raving.

[svp67]

Quote: frezer

Online? Real time? Satellite imagery. Yes you are raving.

https://space.utema.ru/earth-online/

[milling machine]

Quote: svp67

Quote: frezer

Online? Real time? Satellite imagery. Yes you are raving.

https://space.utema.ru/earth-online/

What nonsense you threw me. With the same success, you can shoot the globe.
You give me a link to a site where satellite images in real time, which even shows at home. There are no such. So do not fool people.

[svp67]

Quote: frezer

You give me a link to a site where satellite images in real time, which even shows at home. There are no such. So do not fool people.

Dear WIPE YOUR EYES AND LEARN TO USE A COMPUTER.
Dial Earth with ISS in REAL TIME
Here is a snapshot from 04 January 2018 year 08.13 Moscow ....

Can you see it well? I CAN BUILD UP. Well, even so visible and "dry"

and An-72, in a separate area

And the Tu-154 ...

[Pilot1980]

Quote: svp67

Here is a snapshot from 04 January 2018 year 08.13 Moscow ....

Dear, 8 in the morning at Moscow time is 7 in the morning at the airbase, do not the shadows confuse you?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

do not tell anyone else
this is the movement of a satellite with a google map map substrate

[Spec]

Find the Latakia airfield and take a look at the traces of the explosion and burnt planes .... I can see 7 Su-24s, and three Su-30s and Su-35s each ....

Can I clarify what is burnt?

[svp67]

Quote: Spez

Can I clarify what is burnt?

Not yet WHOLE. We will wait for the update and the passage of the ISS, in an hour. That area under the sun.

[Strips]

Quote: svp67

Not yet WHOLE. We will wait for the update and the passage of the ISS, in an hour. That area under the sun.

Quote: svp67

https://space.utema.ru/earth-online/

FAQ
Question: Can I see planes and ships?
Answer: No, high.

[albert]

Quote: Tiras

FAQ
Question: Can I see planes and ships?
Answer: No, high.

This is if you look through the cameras on the ISS.

[Spec]

Those. there wasn’t a mortar attack yet? What year is it on the timer?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: svp67

Now there are enough programs when you can look at the Earth from satellites, on-line

and don’t give a reference to such a resource?

[Evgeniy667b]

Something did not have to meet online from space in the public domain. I was interested in this topic for professional reasons, but at 15 bucks per square kilometer, it somehow runs a lot. In the best case, this is once a quarter, or even six months. Now the question is to svp67 The event of the shelling of the base happened, it would seem, on December 31.12., are the normal sides shown on the pictures, which were shown today, in an hour from the ISS? will produce svezhak perhaps with debris, and where is the logic ??? In the GOOGL pictures I saw the Khmeimim base, where the aircraft stand in orderly rows in the parking lot. Neither caponiers nor dispersal are close there. Is such carelessness and self-confidence of our commanders? And mortars can be pulled up on donkeys, assembled and used, and if anything, legs can be made. Their bin is "peaceful citizens" of their country. ???

[Kent0001]

reference, please. I want to see it too.

[Lucy]

Let's have no hunchback.

[the most important]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

We will wait for an official clarification from the MO. Although now if you look at the “Military Acceptance”: “Hmeimim Base. Part 2,” you can’t see the protective shelters for the aircraft. But on Shairat they are.

This is the result of uncontrollable bravado. Only two weeks passed, as through all channels with tears of tenderness they showed the MAIN, withdrawing troops from Syria in connection with a complete victory! And then it became clear how the picture on the TV is far from reality. Unfortunately, this is so in everything. And the base of Khmeimim is located very poorly ... It is impossible to protect it from shelling. The base should be in the desert, no matter what around a single blade of grass for 300 miles around! So that any gopher can be seen around with the naked eye. Where are the protective hangars for aircraft ?? They should be not only in Syria, but throughout Russia! Trump has already shown in Shairat what level of protection they need to be built. For this, he must be given the medal "Honored Teacher." But the lessons did not go for the future ... Is it really so difficult to erect a hangar and pour it with concrete, and plant grass on top ??? How many partners can be trusted (or afraid ??) ?? They will ALWAYS try to destroy Russia with the wrong hands!

[Kent0001]

All this is burp, to blacken the commander in chief? Uzbagy and continue to lie on the couch, do not go from you to the MO are sitting and they know you more than anyone else. I see as many as 20 "sofas" your "healthy" thought was supported.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Kent0001

I see as many as 20 "sofas" your "healthy" thought was supported.

22

[Grafova Irina]

Why is the MiG-21 (or Su-7) pictured?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

December 28, 2017 AL-MASDAR NEWS Original
AMN: Russian aviation avenged militants for attempting to attack Khmeimim
Material presented in retelling InoTV
Short link
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The Russian Aerospace Forces conducted a massive attack on the positions of jihadists near the Syrian city of Jisr al-Shugur. The reason for the operation was an attempt by militants to launch rocket fire at the Russian air base Khmeimim, writes Al-Masdar News.
AMN: Russian aviation takes revenge on militants for attempting to attack Khmeimim
Russian VKS retaliated against jihadists for attempting to launch a missile strike at Syrian air base Khmeimim, writes Al-Masdar News. According to the publication, Moscow’s planes launched a powerful air campaign, the main purpose of which was the bases and mobilization centers of the militants in the vicinity of the settlements of Bidama and Al-Najiya.

It was found that the launch of missiles was carried out from these settlements located to the west of the city of Jisr al-Sugur. Fortunately for the Russian military, their air defense system was able to neutralize the enemy’s missiles, the article emphasizes.

To date, Russian aviation has inflicted more than 10 attacks on militant positions. The military plans to continue the operation against the jihadist stronghold in the region, which is notorious for the huge number of foreign mercenaries, including from Chechnya and China, the publication claims.

“Be that as it may, a missile attack is a dangerous precedent that the Russians do not intend to get away with and ignore,” Al-Masdar News concludes.
InoTV's materials contain estimates of exclusively foreign media and do not reflect the position of RT

Original news from InoTV:
https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2017-12-28/AMN-rossi
jskaya-aviaciya-otomstila-boevikam

[Spec]

Su-20. Base Shairat.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

We will wait for an official clarification from the MO

As far as I remember, there was an article which said that the rockets were shot down by the Shell.

[alexmach]

What other sheltered shelters are for nowhere else for modern aircraft. This is an old, still Soviet-built for the Mig-21, modern aircraft with a slightly larger wingspan there actually does not fit.

[Vilensky]

“These messages are fake”: the Russian Ministry of Defense has denied data on the destruction of seven VKS aircraft based on Khmeimim
https://russian.rt.com/world/article/467047-siriy
a-obstrel-baza

[Muvka]

In fairness, if this happened on December 31, then the military of the United States or Israel would already have taken satellite photographs of the base and put them on public display. But this has not happened yet. Most likely a fake.

[Juborg]

Fake news went like fried pies. Not one photo and video, but the liberal media in ecstasy made dancing, and Military Review supported this dance. Admin VO left button accordion break.

[ando_bor]

Quote: juborg

and "Military Review", this dance supported

IN an American resource focused on Russian patriots, it is by definition supposed to support such dances, for which it is supported.

[vrazhin]

In the category of storytellers of anecdotes, our MO is increasingly leaving.
That screenshots from the game lead, as evidence, now they deny damage to aircraft. NINE !!!!!!!!!! planes and. One helicopter! Two dead and ELEVEN !!!!!!!! wounded!
And these anegdotch woodpeckers are afraid to admit that they do not even control the 3-kilometer zone around the base!

[Aaron Zawi]

Yesterday I read this at Saponkov. Prior to publication in the Commersant. But to be honest, I don’t know what to say before any reaction from MORF. All the same, the information is sharp enough, the press service should at least refute it.

[Professor]

On the one hand, it is hard to believe about such losses. On the other hand, the equipment stands in a row in the open air.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: professor

On the one hand, it is hard to believe about such losses. On the other hand, the equipment stands in a row in the open air.

This is yes.

But still, the losses are clearly inflated.

[Spec]

This is strange. To inflict such damage, it is necessary not to throw from one trunk, and not just one minute, but to place the planes in a circle, and shift the ammunition. Preparing an attack with forces from five people, with several fairly powerful barrels, and a couple of boxes of ammunition ... i.e. either a caches in position, or transport. And all this in a radius of up to ten km (if it is with a spotter, with all the ensuing consequences in the case of a signal bearing), or in the line of sight, on an almost flat glade, which is grazed by military police officers who went through the Chechen wars.
Attention, a question. Which special forces and from which country is it capable of? In what condition should the facility be protected?

[Blackmokona]

One successful mortar hit in an ammunition depot, and then ammunition from it destroys everything around

[Spec]

And of course, this warehouse is located directly on the site. Imagine a hill of bombs, missiles, and other ammunition, for the month of operation of such a base as Khmeimim? If this explodes, then not seven will be blown apart, and from the base there will be a small excavation pit for development, such as Moscow City. But according to reports, the planes are already working the fourth day after the "attack" on the positions of the barmalei. Something doesn’t fit here, don’t you notice ?! As an indirect confirmation of the fake nature of the message, Riafan and Anna-News have no information on this incident. There is a Mi-24, but silence about the base. Why would you ?!

[Blackmokona]

It seems that there can be no underground storage, and part of it is taken out for current needs and stored at the site.
And so the Defense Ministry has already confirmed the shelling and two corpses, but so far they are freezing on airplanes.

[NordUral]

You already answered a question. Beards only hands, head behind a puddle, if it's not a fake. But expect this and prepare for it. And shelters for equipment and ammunition need to be built, once there for a long time. And people, and technology, and prestige must be protected.
I think that there was a raid, but not with such losses. If so, as the bourgeois Kommers reported, then this is a shame and shame then.

[Spec]

Quote: NordUral

You already answered a question.

My question implied a negative answer. Ours could not do this against their own. Israel could technically. United States ... You are sorry, but I doubt very much that the level is not the same. South Koreans are not in Syria right now. The Chinese are politically not at all profitable, even though their special forces seem to be in Syria already.

[NordUral]

I looked at the pictures of the base from the ISS, there are no photos of the burned boards, especially such as the An-74 it would be hard not to notice. Although part of the parking lot has traces of fire on the trail from the fire, but this is most likely. old. The planes are intact. Probably an attempt to fire was, but such losses.
And our MO must promptly respond to fakes and real situations. It is a shame to sit out in the bushes.

[Spec]

what resource did you look at, you won’t throw off the link?

[dr.star75]

Good afternoon! As far as I remember, 2 years ago you expected such a situation, wrote that the planes were open. They threw you with slippers, motivating that the barmalei would not be allowed to the base for a cannon shot. It seems, unfortunately, you were right.

[210ox]

That's it. it. To whom it is supposed to not moo or calve. Holidays might be celebrated with might and main.

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Yesterday I read this at Saponkov. Prior to publication in the Commersant. But to be honest, I don’t know what to say before any reaction from MORF. All the same, the information is sharp enough, the press service should at least refute it.

[Samaritan]

They arrived ... They sent troops ... and this will continue for a long time ... no words ...
Earth rest in peace ...

[zyzx]

You won’t believe there is such a military profession for which death on the battlefield is as natural as from a stroke.

[verner1967]

Quote: zyzx

there is such a military profession for which death on the battlefield is as natural as a stroke.

and in your opinion they all just dream of dying of a stroke soon

[210ox]

We’ll wait until the official statement. They probably haven’t woken up in the Moscow Region yet.

Quote: Samaritan

They arrived ... They sent troops ... and this will continue for a long time ... no words ...
Earth rest in peace ...

[97110]

Quote: 210ox

Or they don’t know what to say.

Or they know, but not yet signed. The order on the organization of office work since 1965 (?) Was reissued already? Is 2018 already here?

[Odysseus]

Let's hope that Kommersant is lying, wait for the appearance of any reliable information.
However, after the declaration of victory over ISIS and the withdrawal of troops from Syria (in my opinion premature), the increased activity of the militants, with the aim of inflicting the greatest possible losses on the "departed", was quite predictable.

[milling machine]

I recall that about a year and a half ago, our Moscow Region denied the destruction of helicopters at some base in Syria. For almost a week they denied until someone published satellite images.
What am I doing? And there’s no point in waiting for any comments from the Moscow Region.

[Genry]

What base? Or are there so many of them that you forgot?

[milling machine]

Quote: Genry

What base? Or are there so many of them that you forgot?

Airbase near the city of Tias, 4-5 turntables and trucks burned down. Or we don’t want to remember such news?
Even when our Mi 35 was shot down, the MO claimed that it was a Syrian Mi 24.
In general, I have less confidence in our MO than a businessman.

[Genry]

Quote: frezer

Airbase near the city of Tias, 4-5 turntables and trucks burned down. Or we don’t want to remember such news?

Quote: frezer

In general, I have less confidence in our MO than a businessman.

Where MO Russia gave the wrong information? Moreover, in Tias it was possible to take repeated pictures.

[sabotage]

T-4 Tiyas. May 2016.

[Shukhov]

Well, how much can you post this fake! Why are you spreading this misinformation! For a long time already everyone was sorted out to whom it was interesting!

[Shukhov]

Here's a little bit on the topic of T4 airbase (Tiyas) https://nkfedor.livejournal.com/339113.html

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Genry

What base? Or are there so many of them that you forgot?

At Tiyas Air Base, it was.

[katana]

Quote: frezer

I recall that about a year and a half ago, our Moscow Region denied the destruction of helicopters at some base in Syria. For almost a week they denied until someone published satellite images.
What am I doing? And there’s no point in waiting for any comments from the Moscow Region.

That's it - who wants to admit it.

[Muvka]

And how do you understand that these are our helicopters? Can I find out?

[just exp]

how did he even understand that this is not a fake? I remember back in comments commented on this nonsense.

[Muvka]

I also remember that all this was nonsense.

[just exp]

and now ------ how are things with these pictures now? Any evidence about that base appeared?
or so, threw the fake into the network and forgot?

[Viktor Karelin]

If this is true, then I am shocked about guarding the base. The maximum range of modern mortars is up to 10 km. Like in! Liberated! Syria militants were able to get so close to the base.
I have also always been struck by reports of shelling of the suburbs of Damascus. Already around the capital in the first place they had to clean everything.

[anjey]

the Yankees and Israel have a well-trained gangster underground there, the so-called opposition, civilians on civilian cars and weapons are not measured in different caches and intelligence from Amer’s hands and precise aiming at the target, and no one regrets finances for this vile war against Syria and Russia, all the more ...

[Strips]

Quote: anjey

the Yankees and Israel have a well-trained gangster underground

Nothing to blame on the mirror ...

[PN]

True eyes hurts?

[Strips]

Quote: PN

True eyes hurts?

The fantasies of some comrades are pricked.

[anjey]

I mean, a priori, the time of major military operations has passed, the time has come for reconnaissance and counterintelligence and specialists of the internal security services ...

[anjey]

this is not a mirror, this is a diabolical sum with dough ....

[Lex.]

Actually, the war is being funded by Qatar, and shelling is constantly taking place in Iceland and this is also a NATO country, so you can say that you are involved in paying taxes there

[anjey]

Senya, don’t make humpbacked ones, all the more, don’t bring all your shit to one Qatar, we all read fairy tales in our childhood without you, and about the flag it’s a smartphone glitch, and Russia will still give pepper to many of its enemies ....

[karish]

Quote: ViktorKarelin

If this is true, then I am shocked about guarding the base. The maximum range of modern mortars is up to 10 km. Like in! Liberated! Syria militants were able to get so close to the base.
I have also always been struck by reports of shelling of the suburbs of Damascus. Already around the capital in the first place they had to clean everything.

actually (if it really happened)
I would consider such an option.
it has never been attacked during the entire existence of the base, although the first time that ISIS was located it was much closer and had much more opportunities.
Why did this happen right now? What earlier did the broads regret the VKS and were waiting for the declaration of victory MOSCOW? Of course, but no
My opinion -
In light of the slippage, or rather the stalemate, both in negotiations and in general in Syria, Russia is promoting the initiative to gradually transfer power from Assad to moderate Sunni leaders (which is absolutely logical) - who does not suit this in the first place? Assad and Iran, who is involved in guarding the base in tactical depth?
Assad and Iranian police.
I think (if this really was the case) - this is a clear warning - either change your position or we will several times recall in whose hands the security of the bases and their fate are.

[Viktor Karelin]

One can offer a lot of options. Current, many will be on the verge of delirium.
"Russia is promoting an initiative to gradually transfer power from Assad to moderate Sunni leaders" - where does this infa or even speculation come from? Or the task of Israel to quarrel Assad and Russia ?! To me, the option of saboteurs from a neighboring state and from American partners seems more plausible. Shit on the Russians, after declaring victory - yes this is for hello !!! how many such historical examples !!!!

[karish]

Quote: ViktorKarelin

One can offer a lot of options. Current, many will be on the verge of delirium.
"Russia is promoting an initiative to gradually transfer power from Assad to moderate Sunni leaders" - where does this infa or even speculation come from? Or the task of Israel to quarrel Assad and Russia ?! To me, the option of saboteurs from a neighboring state and from American partners seems more plausible. Shit on the Russians, after declaring victory - yes this is for hello !!! how many such historical examples !!!!

The Russian Foreign Ministry is not a crowd of lessons, but perfectly understands the realities and the fact that Russia does not cling to Assad has been stated more than once.
Russia is well aware that it is not realistic to maintain the territorial integrity of Syria with Assad, and the guerrilla war will never end with the Iranian militias and the interests of Iran and Russia come into concrete contradictions in the vision of Syria's future.
In my understanding, this is one of the possible results of the exacerbation of these contradictions

[Dart2027]

Quote: karish

In Russia, they understand perfectly well that with Assad, it is impossible to maintain the territorial integrity of Syria

Really?

[alexmach]

It’s very interesting, but with whom then is it really theirs?

[Dart2027]

Quote: alexmach

in theirs really

In their opinion, this is not necessary.

[anjey]

Quote: karish

and the interests of Iran and Russia come into concrete contradictions in the vision of the future of Syria.

is it with whom? from the United States and Israel, and not how much have you taken over the last half century, it’s time to divide old galoshes, you have cracks and you are already drowning in the modern world, Russia will spill you out and save many more if it is firm and consistent ....

[sabakina]

Karish, do you really think that only oaks grow in our General Staff?

[krops777]

If this is true, then I am shocked about guarding the base. The maximum range of modern mortars is up to 10 km. Like in! Liberated! Syria militants were able to get so close to the base.

Let’s not succumb to ephemeral reasoning, we will wait for official announcements, if there was, we won’t be able to hide, if Israeli inhabitants on VO shed light, they have more information.

[alexmach]

The terrorists somehow carried a mortar and a couple of mines, at least on the donkey pretending to be peasants, plus December 31 all the same.

I have also always been struck by reports of shelling of the suburbs of Damascus. Already around the capital in the first place they had to clean everything.

So actually in their suburbs there is also a den - a gray zone controlled either by moderate opposition or by whom.

[Spec]

How is that?! It does not fit in the head. How can this even be?

[Idunavs]

This is the result of the fact that two-thirds of the marines were removed from Syria and taken out of Syria.

[Spec]

Marines in their tasks are still attack aircraft. As the most combat-ready and trained units. sharpened to capture and hold the bridgehead, can serve as a base guard. But the outer and distant cordons are not held by marines, but, as I wrote above, the military police. And judging by the fact that they are part of the police contingent in Syria, it is doubtful that sabotage groups with artillery could appear in their area of ​​responsibility. This is what is visible on the surface, based on existing information. as it really is, it will become clear in the coming days, or even hours.

[Idunavs]

My acquaintance marine from Sevastopol said that they patrolled within a radius of 30 km from Khmeimim.

[Spec]

This is also possible. It is difficult to judge the real situation sitting at the computer. In the commentary, I expressed only one of the options.

[Spec]

But no ... All the same they spoiled the mortars ...

[Strips]

I do not think that the Moscow Region recognizes that this would be an incredible shame for Russia. Especially after claims of victory over ISIS, especially before the election.

If none of the foreign companies publishes satellite images, then one should not expect such an event by the recognition of the Ministry of Defense.

So either there will be snapshots of confirmations, or it will not be clear whether the case was or not.

Russia is in no hurry to acknowledge its mistakes and losses.

[Shahno]

If our satellite recorded and the incident was, I think the pictures will be.

[katana]

Quote: Shahno

If our satellite recorded and the incident was, I think the pictures will be.

It’s unlikely - your Prime Minister is almost kissing Putin on the gums!

[Professor]

Quote: katana

Quote: Shahno

If our satellite recorded and the incident was, I think the pictures will be.

It’s unlikely - your Prime Minister is almost kissing Putin on the gums!

So the satellite is not state. He Bibi does not obey.

[sabakina]

Shahno
If our satellite recorded and the incident was, I think the pictures will be.

Shahno, you already tortured with your companion! Once again, remember him, knock nafig!

[Alex Justice]

I read the western press. There are no pictures, only blah, blah ....

[seal78]

Yes, if there are pictures, they will be posted in any way. Will the mattress miss this opportunity? And it does not depend on what the MO says or does. Or do you think that the RF Ministry of Defense can make the mattress silent? Well, then why should we fight with them, if we already command them?

[Evgeniy667b]

Yes, with the reports about the Victory clearly hurried! The main credo of the authorities of the Russian Federation is public relations and shows, hence the legs grow.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Tiras

I do not think that the Moscow Region recognizes that this would be an incredible shame for Russia. Especially after claims of victory over ISIS, especially before the election.

If none of the foreign companies publishes satellite images, then one should not expect such an event by the recognition of the Ministry of Defense.

So either there will be snapshots of confirmations, or it will not be clear whether the case was or not.

Russia is in no hurry to acknowledge its mistakes and losses.

so it’s not only the igilas hanging out there ... you can’t even understand the meaning of what Uncle Vova said !!! the igil was broken and her attempts to build a crazy state owl failed !!! most of the igilists were destroyed and therefore left a small part of our military contingent, which will further help destroy the remaining small part of the igilists ... and after the defeat of the igil, they will now crush nusra and other evil spirits, mowing down under normal people !!!

[svp67]

The publication notes that if the data sources are correct, this incident can be considered one of the most serious incidents during the military air operation of Russia in Syria.

So far, the keywords in this post: "if the source data is correct"

[Pax tecum]

Sorry, that’s not quite the topic (or maybe vice versa). Well, what is this ?! It is very strange to see that here and now, the Military Review website advertises the services of a private Alfa Bank (if anyone does not know, then it is Ukrainian). On the smartphone screen, this is very clearly visible, it is a big obstacle to viewing content.
Maybe the site administration is not aware (which is very doubtful) that this bank supported American anti-Russian sanctions and refused to service the accounts of the Russian military-industrial complex.

Oleg Sysuev, a spokesman for Alfa Bank (one of Russia's largest private banks), said the bank would no longer service the accounts of Russian defense industrial companies. He stated this in an interview with Echo of Moscow reporters.
In terms of Sysuyev, we are talking about "maximum risk reduction": the bank seeks to avoid punishment from the United States, because a significant part of Russian defense industry companies is under sanctions by the United States.
The implications for defense companies are not yet obvious: Alfa-Bank conducted only the servicing of accounts, and the companies were financed from the federal budget.

The sudden courage of Alfa Bank may be due to the company's intention to start a joint venture with the German concern BASF, according to sources on the Web. However, work with “sanctioned” Russian companies may impede this project, therefore the bank “reduces risks”.

[kebeskin]

This is contextual advertising. For example, I do not have an alpha bank advertisement here. But in general, money, as you know, does not smell. And whatever our desire, what and how with whom to lead is decided by the bank management itself. And not only eio concerns this bank. And to force everyone to suddenly suddenly refuse the services of this bank is utopia. These are all private shops and they have their own bribe price.

[svp67]

Quote: Pax tecum

the Military Review website advertises the services of a private Alfa Bank (if anyone does not know, then it is Ukrainian).

Listen and so what? This bank pays to our budget, and for advertising our company, but whether or not to use its services is your decision. Personally yours and no one will force you to do this.

[sabakina]

Sergei, did not know that companies appeared in the Russian Federation ... There is an LLC, an OJSC ... Maybe "but for the advertising of our campaign" ...

[BLOND]

Quote: Pax tecum

Sorry, that’s not quite the topic (or maybe vice versa).

We have not yet verified the info from the Merchant once and immediately to ourselves at VO ...
We still have a lot of Rains Eh and all sorts of promatrass transponders

[Pax tecum]

Here is the verified information. Will it fit?
The State Duma will consider a draft parliamentary request to Russia's Prosecutor General Yury Chaika, FSB Director Alexander Bortnikov and Chairman of the Investigative Committee Alexander Bastrykin in connection with reports of possible involvement of Alfa Bank structures in financing the Ukrainian security forces involved in the conflict in the Donbas at a plenary meeting on November 9. This was reported to reporters on Monday, November 7, Andrei Isaev, the first deputy head of the United Russia faction, reports TASS.

According to Isaev, the parliamentary inquiry was initiated by his fellow colleague, member of the State Duma Committee on Budget and Taxes Yevgeny Fedorov. “He [request] is supported by the faction,” the deputy added.

Referring to messages on the Internet, Fedorov asked to verify the fact that Ukrainian servicemen receive their salaries through branches of the Ukrainian Alfa Bank, Isaev explained.

Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/politics/07/11/2016/58208b639a
79476f3a4937ed

[katana]

Quote: Pax tecum

Sorry, that’s not quite the topic (or maybe vice versa). Well, what is this ?! It is very strange to see that here and now, the Military Review website advertises the services of a private Alfa Bank (if anyone does not know, then it is Ukrainian). On the smartphone screen, this is very clearly visible, it is a big obstacle to viewing content.
Maybe the site administration is not aware (which is very doubtful) that this bank supported American anti-Russian sanctions and refused to service the accounts of the Russian military-industrial complex.

Oleg Sysuev, a spokesman for Alfa Bank (one of Russia's largest private banks), said the bank would no longer service the accounts of Russian defense industrial companies. He stated this in an interview with Echo of Moscow reporters.
In terms of Sysuyev, we are talking about "maximum risk reduction": the bank seeks to avoid punishment from the United States, because a significant part of Russian defense industry companies is under sanctions by the United States.
The implications for defense companies are not yet obvious: Alfa-Bank conducted only the servicing of accounts, and the companies were financed from the federal budget.

The sudden courage of Alfa Bank may be due to the company's intention to start a joint venture with the German concern BASF, according to sources on the Web. However, work with “sanctioned” Russian companies may impede this project, therefore the bank “reduces risks”.

Well, the site also needs money. And to carry your money to this bank or not is your personal business.

[Pax tecum]

Well yes. Well yes. War is war, but "money doesn't smell" ...
It's a shame for the Russian world and the Donbass, and not for the owners of the Jewish oligarch bank Friedman and Khan, and a hedgehog with them.
The whole essence of Russian sovereign capitalism (and Kremlin politics) is that.
Some kind of cynicism!

[international]

No, Katana, you are wrong. All commercial banks are ticks on the body of the people and economy of the country. And if so they raise the question - we will not service the defense industry, then they made a very loud statement. They ranked themselves as "foreign agents"!

[Faith]

In fairness, it is worth noting that this bank is purely Jewish and serves the Hasidic mafia, among other things, a percentage is charged for servicing the Moscow region’s accounts, so I don’t see any crime if this Khazar bank ceases to benefit from the military budget. Out of the guise of this statement, it would be a great observer to expel this office from Russia at all, but these are my cotton fantasies.

[ando_bor]

Quote: Pax tecum

It is very strange to see that here and now, the Military Review website advertises the services of a private Alfa Bank (if anyone does not know, then it is Ukrainian). On the smartphone screen, this is very clearly visible, it is a big obstacle to viewing content.

Nothing strange is an American site for Russian patriots.

[kebeskin]

So we crap. Of course, the militants will be destroyed. But ours will be something to do to work on the bugs.

[seal78]

Who are you?

[Piramidon]

Quote: kebeskin

So we crap.

Not us, but you. You do not need to lay out all your personal actions

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: kebeskin

So we crap. Of course, the militants will be destroyed. But ours will be something to do to work on the bugs.

What date are you on a Syrian business trip ????

[Shahno]

Yes, if so, this is serious. But I think you don’t need to sprinkle ash on your head. Even Kipat Barzel, who was imprisoned for fighting mortar fire, destroys two of three ammunition of this kind. But what was let so close, this signal is not good.
.

[seal78]

The key word is if.

[mag nit]

Victory over ISIS divided? Dizziness from success.

[Nikolai Grek]

you do not know that there besides igilashki there are a couple of dozens of "moderate" terrorists ???

[Gardamir]

Let's hope that Kommersant is lying,

That's how everyone has been hoping for 17 years. But the question is, if everyone was defeated and it was time for the troops to withdraw, then who fired? Maybe Bulk?

[allaykbar]

Are you paid for such comments or are they from the heart?

[Gardamir]

from the heart?

And what do you think? Yeltsin Center, kolyizurengoy, Olympics without Russia. The new year has just begun, but the decree on raising taxes has already begun.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Gardamir

... a decree on raising taxes ...

Which Gardamir?
Which of the “raised” taxes concerns you personally (nothing exactly concerns me)?
Keep on sketching? Well, go on, go on

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Gardamir

That's how everyone has been hoping for 17 years

... and Kommersant is still lying ... And you, too, of that ... distort reality
Here, for example:

Quote: Gardamir

... if everyone was defeated ...

Who, besides you, said that all won? That's right ... no one spoke.

Quote: Gardamir

Maybe Bulk?

Nah ... Here comes Grudinin - restore order ... yes, Gardamir?

[allaykbar]

Gardamir seems to work out his patience and such news as balm for the wound, because you can hook the Kremlin

Vile of course. A strange forum member, although there is a whole cohort of them

[ando_bor]

Quote: allaykbar

A strange forum member, although there is a whole cohort of them

The information war, an attack on Russia on all fronts is underway.

[eugraphus]

Something relaxed before the new year. The authorities said that everything is a victory!

[Rusfaner]

Very similar to the Bagram of the 80s - the spirits were defeated, but the shelling intensified ...

[seal78]

Well, the United States, and then and now, crap to us.

[Million]

Bullshit! Putin said he defeated everyone!

[katana]

Quote: Million

Bullshit! Putin said he defeated everyone!

Well, do not make fun of it - on the site all adults and everyone understands that statements of the heads of state such wars as in Syria or the type of Afghanistan do not end with statements alone. There is no one to accept the act of unconditional surrender there !!

[Million]

Then there was no need to loudly declare victory over the igil in Syria.

[eugraphus]

You can declare anything, you can’t relax. And the statement that after the shelling strengthened the security of the base is very characteristic. And what did you guys do after, and not as a warning.

[just exp]

you are lying, Mr. American, Putin did not say that everyone was defeated, they talked about igil, but they didn’t say anything like that about annusra.

[Million]

But does it matter to you, which organization’s terrorists destroyed our 7 expensive aircraft? Wasn’t it too early to relax, claiming victory? We collect a penny on sick children on TV for a penny, but then we lost billions due to stupidity and carelessness!
If true, of course ...

[just exp]

if ........

[Cat Marquis]

And where were the vaunted “Shells” that supposedly mortar mines in flight freely destroy? And something very precisely, the mines fall at the headquarters with the general, now in the warehouse with ammunition and on planes ..... And where are all these "alpha", "beta", "gamma" and other super-duper "specialists" who need to deal with barmaleys and their sponsors? And then something their Americans barmaley freely move back and forth and at the same time brazenly remind that any step of the Assad or Russian soldiers will be considered a "provocation" and will entail "grave consequences" .... Something is clearly "out of order Kingdom of Denmark "..... Lose so many planes in one day .... so much money flew away nowhere ....

[Mikhail Krapivin]

So you tell me, because you write under the American flag, you know everything, understand everything. For example, tell us about the successes of the Yankees in Afghanistan, they sit there many times longer than ours, which means there should be more successes at times. And there, only two thousand Americans died and no particular successes were seen.

[seal78]

Mattresses as usual - everything is measured in money.

[Colleague]

Well, right so right away, there was a duck and hello

[sabakina]

That's why you are the Amer’s Cat Marquis, and not the Russian Cat Bayun!

[cannabis]

The war, as a contactor, has only two positions - "on." and off. What is in Afghanistan, what is in Chechnya, what is not fulfilled in Syria, the basic principles of warfare. "Where the army - there is no population. Where the army and the population - there is a guerrilla war." Counterintelligence can somehow cope with saboteurs, but no one and the partisans never won. Gunners can accurately say how many 120 mm mines can be "hung" on the trajectory until the first mine breaks. And after that, throwing a mortar, calmly leave on his Toyota along a dusty rocky road.

[cannabis]

It remains to wait for the appearance of portable anti-aircraft systems in Assad's opponents.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: cunning

The war, as a contactor, has only two positions - "on." and off. What is in Afghanistan, what is in Chechnya, what is not fulfilled in Syria, the basic principles of warfare. "Where the army - there is no population. Where the army and the population - there is a guerrilla war." Counterintelligence can somehow cope with saboteurs, but no one and the partisans never won. Gunners can accurately say how many 120 mm mines can be "hung" on the trajectory until the first mine breaks. And after that, throwing a mortar, calmly leave on his Toyota along a dusty rocky road.

you confuse the concept of terrorists and partisans !! with a sound look at everything that happens in Syria, the partisans will go to destroy the Americans and their henchmen !!!

[cannabis]

Did you find the word "terrorists" in my text? Show me where, I want to see too!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: cunning

Did you find the word "terrorists" in my text? Show me where, I want to see too!

like an adult, but you can’t grasp what you read !!! our base was bombarded by terrorists, but not partisans !!!

[passerby5]

you would have explained it to those who climb out of the holes at night and on our bullets or on Asadam))

[Fedorov]

This is a "businessman".
Smirnov Vadim, Roma Banshi - filter at least a few articles.
There, as far as our people told me, it’s not close to creep on km 10. What are the mortar attacks?
And then in the morning Kondraty may grab from such news.

[Monarchist]

Fedorov, purely theoretically it can be assumed: the guys on the eve of the New Year relaxed and "swam". I just think that the mortar in this situation is not convenient, but a rocket

[Vard]

Fake is just designed for our national ... garbage all this ... and about the base ... and about the generals ...

[Aleksandr21]

We’ll wait for an official comment from the Ministry of Defense, in general, I don’t remember Kommersant publish completely frank fakes, so I fully admit that information from two unnamed military-diplomatic sources may be true (no one wants to lose their job, and even less to go under the Criminal Code ), and if infa is still true then this is very sad. If the fake then the merchant has reached a new level, but why should they? the sensation of such a publication is definitely not worth it)

[sabakina]

Dear, Kommersant is not in court under oath to the truth, only the truth and nothing but the truth ...

[Alexander S.]

One question .. why silence? None of the ter.organizations took responsibility (although about the explosion in the supermarket right away .. we..that we are!) ... it would be a huge victory for them .. a great advertisement to increase funding ... and there is no fire video based .

[sabotage]

What if this is greetings from Iranian or Turkish partners? They are self-sufficient, sponsors will not bring them money.

[ul_vitalii]

All this is strange: the shell shot, the helicopter crashed, three Syrian generals died (infa passed), now it is.

[mavrus]

Quote: Odyssey

Let's hope that Kommersant is lying, wait for the appearance of any reliable information.
However, after the declaration of victory over ISIS and the withdrawal of troops from Syria (in my opinion premature), the increased activity of the militants, with the aim of inflicting the greatest possible losses on the "departed", was quite predictable.

And where is it said that this is ISIS, if there really was a fact of shelling the base ...
And on the other hand, any "opposition" could shoot New Year’s fireworks at the base and bring this "fact" to their curators for a round sum.

[Odysseus]

Quote: mavrus

And where is it said that this is ISIS, if there really was a fact of shelling the base ...

It’s definitely not ISIS, although ISIS has so far maintained strong bases there. But people will not care ISIS or not (especially since the difference between the “opposition” in Syria is small). The very fact of large losses after the statement about the fulfillment of tasks and the beginning troop withdrawal.

[From Germany]

Surprising or naivete or inappropriate sarcasm of some commentators, they say how so?

In Russia, the Second Chechen War ended long ago and the borders are fairly well guarded, and the FSB is working hard, and all the same, these nonhumans get and spoil weapons. And in Syria, the scumbags in Amer’s bases are hiding, instructing with them is carried out, the borders are full of holes, if there are any at all, then throwing a sabotage group is a small problem. And the Jews and Amers and the Saudis will supply the weapons and equipment of these bearded men. There will be no peace for a long time, since these three above-mentioned populations will try.

[Vard]

Of course ... you women will soon go to the burqa ... because you think so ...

[From Germany]

Quote: Vard

Of course ... you women will soon go to the burqa ... because you think so ...

We think how? I did not quite understand the relationship.

By the way: "The Russian Ministry of Defense called fake information about the destruction of seven aircraft at the Khmeimim airbase in Syria. The agency confirmed information about mortar shelling of the base, resulting in two soldiers killed. This happened on December 31."

[sabakina]

Dmitry, do not be offended. This is it about banning pork in the EU and white tents for women.

[thinker]

We turn on the brain. Allegedly, SEVEN aircraft were destroyed on December 31, 2017, and apart from Kommersant, nobody knows about this.
All THREE missiles at the base were instantly trumpeted in all the media.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: thinker

We turn on the brain. Allegedly, SEVEN aircraft were destroyed on December 31, 2017, and apart from Kommersant, nobody knows about this.
All THREE missiles at the base were instantly trumpeted in all the media.

When the rockets were fired, 1 source also reported and the rest began to quote it and it turned out that in all the "media" + traces of the rockets in the air and the work of the Shell were recorded. Here is another situation, mortar shelling and such information, do you think this is not possible? it is possible to admit. And the fact that the sources are not named, do not forget about the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and the laws that have been adopted in this regard ..... therefore 50 to 50. Of course, there may be a fake, but Kommersant does not apply to Echo, Rain and similar media.

[thinker]

And who does not allow to see the Arab media, for example Al-Masdar, there is silence about such a "rout"
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/category/syr
ia /

[faiver]

To be honest - in shock, well, so far there is little hope that a fake, BUT if this is true, then comrade Shoigu, to put it mildly, is not all right in his kingdom ...

[Herculesic]

Firstly, if this is an outright lie, then why does such information even get into the news feeds, and no one bears responsibility for it? Why do not they annul the license, do not close the channel or station? For an example, remember supposedly our “Echo” and “Rain”! Secondly, this is the worst, I’m afraid that it’s true, and we can only get satellite photos, or the authorities, to be courageous and tell the truth, no matter how bitter she was not!

[krops777]

Firstly, if this is an outright lie, then why does such information even get into the news feeds, and no one bears responsibility for it? Why do not they annul the license, do not close the channel or station?

Freedom of speech, what did you want? democracy.

[seal78]

Because the state, unfortunately, does not control the media.

[Kail.kail]

There are a lot of questions ....
Even if the shelling was. Why didn’t the air defense work? Near the ships, the air defense didn’t work either? Or there were so many mines .... xs in my opinion, this is misinformation.

[faiver]

Do not tell me when the air defense began to work against mortars?

[cedar]

Quote: ViktorKarelin

If this is true, then I am shocked about guarding the base. The maximum range of modern mortars is up to 10 km. Like in! Liberated! Syria action films could get so close to the base.
I have also always been struck by reports of shelling of the suburbs of Damascus. Already around the capital in the first place they had to clean everything.

The enemy found slack. The reconnaissance and MTR of the enemy worked as they should. Let’s draw conclusions and go on ... It’s time to throw all the “fighters" out of the head. Us professionals are fighting there under information cover. Today we flew, tomorrow they will fly. In war, as in war. And the war on BV did not begin yesterday and will end tomorrow, but Armageddon will end it all.
See the metaphysical root of wars in the BV, dear.

[sabakina]

Eugene, I see. So far, everything is calm.

[Monarchist]

Quote: katana

Quote: newbie

found someone to believe, “merchant” is still that merchant. how many times “b” fired a bullet, it turned out to be zilch.

Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

Here you are right: there is such a proverb, and they also say: “the Brihun will not live a day, so as not to lie”

[Vita vko]

It’s interesting, but is there at least one specialist here who is at least a little familiar with the aerodrome defense systems? You can still assume the likelihood of firing missiles of the Grad type, all the same a large range of 20-30 km and there is little chance that a gang of terrorists will approach this distance. But mortar shelling from a range of 2-3 km, that is, actually from within the guarded perimeter - this is already something from the realm of fantasy! The next oddity is that the crash of the Mi-24 helicopter with the death of pilots and the so-called "mortar shelling" happened on the same day. One can say with a high degree of probability that the military-terrorist sources of Komersant simply gave the wish for the reality.

[Mighty Ka]

If this is true, then the question to GDPutin, what the hell did you hasten to announce about the victory over the barmalei, that someone pulled you by the eggs to flee from Syria. There is such a saying: hurry people to make fun.

[karish]

Quote: Mighty- Ka

If this is true, then the question to GDPutin, what the hell did you hasten to announce about the victory over the barmalei, that someone pulled you by the eggs to flee from Syria. There is such a saying: hurry people to make fun.

After publication in Kommersantsesli and not only, MO. just bound to react. those. confirm or refute the information.
If there is silence for more than a day, in my understanding this is nothing more than confirmation, it just pressks out the degree of damage and commentary options in the light of previous statements.
Let's wait a day.

[Vard]

No ... they just finally started to take over your experience of covering such stories ...

[seal78]

Not to mattresses with Jews to bring claims to Putin.

[ghby]

Quote: karish

After publication in Kommersantsesli and not only, MO. just bound to react. those. confirm or refute the information.
If there is silence for more than a day, in my understanding this is nothing more than confirmation, it just pressks out the degree of damage and commentary options in the light of previous statements.
Let's wait a day.

We will wait until the holidays are over and civilian personnel will begin to work

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: karish

Quote: Mighty- Ka

If this is true, then the question to GDPutin, what the hell did you hasten to announce about the victory over the barmalei, that someone pulled you by the eggs to flee from Syria. There is such a saying: hurry people to make fun.

After publication in Kommersantsesli and not only, MO. just bound to react. those. confirm or refute the information.
If there is silence for more than a day, in my understanding this is nothing more than confirmation, it just pressks out the degree of damage and commentary options in the light of previous statements.
Let's wait a day.

ganapolsky, peledoginsya !!!

[Vard]

The death of such a quantity of military equipment involves a very intensive shelling ... and howl there is not the first year ... there are some means of counter-battery fighting ... so it’s definitely a fake ...

[alcor]

Without proofs, you can not even discuss the topic. If so, the Americans would have posted the satellite. Definitely, to spoil the soul harder. And local social networks instantly upload pictures even with smoke, but definitely upload them. If there is no and there will be no evidence - balabolstvo is unambiguous.

[ando_bor]

Quote: alkor

If there is no and there will be no evidence - balabolstvo is unambiguous.

Not just balobolstvo - a powerful information attack - the mass media have already posted information.

[seal78]

Aha. Kommersant is another source))

[Million]

If this is true, then the cost of 7 aircraft built on our money with you, who will reimburse?

[Mikhail Krapivin]

And so our money bothers you, so I would immediately say, you're my American. Even if people like you don’t have a striped flag next to their nickname, you will immediately recognize them by posts. Kindergarten, Americans are big dumb and angry children.

[Million]

Their stupid people are much worse than the evil Americans.

[Krasnyiy komissar]

This is the answer to those who speak of the uselessness of aircraft carriers. Guarding the perimeter of the air base can not protect it from mortars and MLRS - you need means of air defense facilities like the Iron Dome or the base must be protected by an insurmountable obstacle. If Russia had at least a couple of AUGs with aircraft carriers like the Storm, then there would be no problems with shelling.

[gig334]

Quote: Herkulesich

Firstly, if this is an outright lie, then why does such information even get into the news feeds, and no one bears responsibility for it? Why do not they annul the license, do not close the channel or station? For an example, remember supposedly our “Echo” and “Rain”! Secondly, this is the worst, I’m afraid that it’s true, and we can only get satellite photos, or the authorities, to be courageous and tell the truth, no matter how bitter she was not!

If it were true. Western media would have published pictures of the base. Censorship that disconnected you from the Internet, or you can’t use the search engine?

[Grafova Irina]

Just then, the base itself would not be needed much

[Spec]

I need it. Urgent delivery or evacuation of goods, as well as storage, maintenance of equipment, etc. can only be done using databases. More space and easier logistics.

[Offspring]

The militants are filming their "exploits" on video, moreover, with the cries of Alah-Akbar .... !!!

[Hadji Murat]

what are the findings? censorship full tv is silent .....

[BLOND]

Military Review. Are we "rising" to the level of a businessman?
Their news has been hanging for half a day and has overgrown with reposts of the same comrades
Now, VO is in the same cohort, what’s the crisis with moderators? I think that I missed the "News" Cossack mishandled!
Even in 2015, I was pushed into such "minuses" in a chat if I referred to the wrong source!

[ando_bor]

Quote: BLOND

Military Review. Are we "rising" to the level of a businessman?

Military Review is an American resource for Russian patriots, and what level should it have?

[BLOND]

Quote: ando_bor

Quote: BLOND

Military Review. Are we "rising" to the level of a businessman?

Military Review is an American resource for Russian patriots, and what level should it have?

So either raise the level or lower the resource

[ando_bor]

Quote: BLOND

So either raise the level or lower the resource

True patriots have long understood everything and fled from here,
- I go so basically to track information war methods.

[BLOND]

Quote: ando_bor

Quote: BLOND

So either raise the level or lower the resource

True patriots have long understood everything and fled from here,
- I go so basically to track information war methods.

You know, this stuffing was planned and (according to feelings) was "trial, test" for something more important ...
And the site has really changed a lot

[Razvedka_Boem]

Everything is controlled there at least within a radius of 10 km - drones, secrets and patrols.
We are waiting for a comment from the MO.

[kaschey]

Quote: ul_vitalii

All this is strange: the shell shot, the helicopter crashed, three Syrian generals died (infa passed), now it is.

Stirlitz, flying on an official plane over the airfield, saw the destroyed GDP and a whole squadron of destroyed bombers, "Barmalei - thought Stirlitz."

[seal78]

Did you mean runway?

[kaschey]

No, I meant Stirlitz.

[groks]

Well, apparently, our bases are being squeezed out of Syria. MORF does not recognize the fact, but will continue to conclude.

[voyaka uh]

Here is the only source. Reporter Roman Saponkov on VK:

"Russian reporter Roman Saponkov yesterday wrote about the incident at Hmeimim at his Vk.com page:
confirmed attack, 2 killed, several wounded. Equipment lost "
No other evidence.

[Oleg7700]

https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2018/0
1/04/747067-boeviki-obstrelyali-rossiiskuyu-military
uyu-bazu-v-sirii Already refer to their sources in the MO.

[Echo]

The news is complete crap, who ever missed this pissed cartoon here? Where are the pictures of the destroyed planes? Where are the satellite images of the shelled air base that the Western media would have distributed in 10 minutes?

[Mountain shooter]

No data from anywhere else, except for the "non-watering" newspaper .. Well, when for such "news" the MO, for example, will be skinning the newspaper, through the court, of course

[GeorgeSev85]

4 days have passed and not a single photo-video!?!?!?!
Yes, the Western media would have already begun to orgasm from such news, but silence ... just silence from the barmalei.

[Tusk]

Quote: GeorgeSev85

Yes, the Western media would have already begun to orgasm from such news, but silence ... just silence from the barmalei.

Also, such an idea was ... There would have been such a noise and satellite imagery posted and the joy of Barmolei, etc. ... And this liberal newspaper has always been ..

[gig334]

The businessman refers to anonymous sources, there are no photos of the Western media base from satellites, usually they immediately print it. There are no statements from terrorist groups from Syria, both here and in the West. Only the yellow Russophobian newspaper women howled about this news, picking up the news from a businessman. . Do you realize that if this turns out to be a fake, then many users will attribute you to the news media from a yellow source, and not to a serious publication and resource? Is a rating more expensive than honor?

[high]

Apparently, a new round of war is unfolding:
On January 2, the Netherlands Air Force announced the deployment of aircraft to the Middle East to combat Isil.
On January 2, the Minister of Defense of Syria Fahad Jasem Al-Freja was fired, apparently this is the result of the destruction of 7 Russian military aircraft, he did not defend

[alexhol]

Most likely the loss of the helicopter was the result of shelling.

[senima56]

It turns out that we announced the “defeat of ISIS in Syria” early? This has never happened in Syria during the entire war!

[Vard]

In short... nonsense!

[Nemesis]

Isn’t it time to take off the shoulder straps and put on trial before a military tribunal those who send transport helicopters and bombers on missions without fighter cover and sleep instead of being engaged in ground security of a military base?! A mortar is not a Scud missile, to fire mortars you need to get close enough to the object you are going to fire... If the militants are allowed to calmly walk near the base, then in Russia there are too many generals who should be demoted to privates... We're tired of these already Pasha-Mercedes...

[rotmistr60]

The publication notes that if the sources’ data turns out to be correct

Can Kommersant first double-check the information and then print it? The liberal media have completely lost their sense of smell due to their impunity.

[seal78]

What for ? This is not what sponsors pay him for.

[Glory1974]

The mortar's firing range is 82 mm up to 5 km, 120 mm up to 7 km. There is a security perimeter, and it is at least 3-4 km. It is problematic to drag a 120 mm mortar into controlled territory. You can’t just hit it from maximum range without adjustment. You can just fire a few shots and run away, but I think the results of the shelling will be appropriate.
If they didn’t follow up and there was shelling, then it was short-term and without such serious consequences. The planes may have been damaged, but they didn’t burn out. Otherwise there would have been photos with columns of smoke.

[Muvka]

There was a denial about the loss of planes, but the shelling, it seems, was...

[q75agent]

10:04The Ministry of Defense called the information about the destruction of seven planes in Syria fake
The Russian Ministry of Defense called the information about the destruction of seven aircraft at the Khmeimim airbase in Syria fake. The department confirmed information about a mortar attack on the base, as a result of which two servicemen were killed. This happened on December 31st. The attack on the base on January 3 was reported by the Kommersant newspaper.

[Oberst_71]

Surikin should shoot himself.

[Klaus]

The merchant posted this information late yesterday evening. I was already shaking from such news... But I still decided not to draw hasty conclusions. Well, today a refutation has finally appeared. What level of responsibility does the official media, by the way, have? Such news, before being released, should be checked 10 times from different sources, and not throw out fried facts and irritate people.

[voyaka uh]

“Well, today a refutation finally appeared” ///

This is not a refutation, but a confirmation.
The rebuttal would be: “There was no mortar attack on the base.”
And the Ministry of Defense reports that “the planes were not destroyed” (did not burn, in other words).
And the fact that they were probably cut by mine fragments...

[ando_bor]

Quote: Oberst_71

Surikin should shoot himself.

“Hang by the neck until death,” as we say in England.

[Egorovich]

In order to avoid such low-grade fakes, you just need to destroy the Kommersant agency.

[pvv113]

According to Kommersant,

Ordinary lie! The Russian Ministry of Defense has denied this nonsense

Two Russian soldiers were killed during a mortar attack by militants on the Khmeimim airfield on December 31. The Ministry of Defense announced this, Interfax reports.

The department clarified that with the onset of darkness, the Khmeimim airfield came under sudden mortar fire from a mobile sabotage group of militants. Despite this, the Russian air group in Syria “is combat ready and continues to carry out all its intended tasks in full.”

“The Kommersant report about the alleged actual destruction of seven Russian military aircraft at the Khmeimim airbase is fake,” the ministry said.

Earlier, the Kommersant newspaper wrote about the shelling. According to the publication, as a result, seven aircraft were destroyed, and more than ten military personnel could have been injured. The fire also destroyed an ammunition depot, the publication clarifies.

The day before, the Ministry of Defense reported that on December 31 in Syria, a Russian Mi-24 combat helicopter crashed, both pilots were killed. The department noted that the incident occurred due to a technical malfunction when the helicopter was flying to Hama airfield.

According to the investigative group Conflict Intelligence Team (CIT), the names of the dead pilots are Artem Kulish and Timur Davlyatov.

CIT noted that the helicopter was escorting a convoy in the area of ​​al-Zara in Hama province and touched wires.

https://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/2018/01/04/13839
7-minoborony-pri-obstrele-aviabazy-hmeymim-pogibl
i-dvoe-rossiyskih-voennyh
Today's photo of the air base

[NKT]

There are still questions for our MO:
1. Why haven’t caponiers been built yet?
2. Why is the safe perimeter of the base so small that it will allow mortar fire?

[Echo]

The airbase is too close to urban development, which is very problematic to bring under total control.

[Oleg7700]

An extremely problematic place. Overhanging Khmeimim is 130 km. Jebel Ansaria, just opposite with max. heights (1500+) m and width 32 km. A lot of “roads” and trails along, for decades, - smugglers from the north and south...

[Byural1941]

Easily! We need to bring up the SMERSH archives...See how they cleared the front line back then!
And start working with agents. ..... Or simply put into use the armored bulldozers that ChTZ began producing, but the reaction must be immediate, and most importantly, exponentially!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Byural1941

Easily! We need to bring up the SMERSH archives...See how they cleared the front line back then!
And start working with agents. ..... Or simply put into use the armored bulldozers that ChTZ began producing, but the reaction must be immediate, and most importantly, exponentially!

Don’t forget that the northwestern part of Syria is currently one of the most problematic due to the fact that most of the terrorists are concentrated in Idlib and the surrounding area + the border with Turkey, which also likes to muddy the waters!!

[alcor]

Well done. 41 years have taught me nothing. Wing to wing....

[pvv113]

That's it - no shelter, no dispersal

[Cossack 471]

Yes . I remembered how the barmalei fired mortars at a tent hospital in the city. although there were buildings nearby and it was possible to deploy it there. Of course, he stood beautifully in the square. just like in the textbook. There is no concept of camouflage. At the same time, it’s clear from the videos from Syria. that an army cannot fight without bulldozers. The shafts are raking everywhere. to hide behind them

[pvv113]

That's why it's strange

[Micxem]

All the beauty of the modern disinformation system. They reprint news without relying on sources. Fake News as one president said.

[mikh-korsakov]

However, the Ministry of Defense confirmed that the shelling actually took place, two servicemen were killed, but all the planes were intact, detection and prevention measures are being taken in the future. The Ministry of Defense called Kommersant's information fake. In my opinion, they shamefully used a foreign word in vain. Of course, thanks to freedom of speech, journalists are officially allowed to lie. But still lie, but know when to stop. After what happened, one can consider the Kommersant newspaper a tabloid headed by its editor, who loves to flash his glasses so meaningfully. Our liberals love to make witty jokes, saying that there was no truth in the Pravda newspaper, now you can answer them, and the Kommersant newspaper is a distributor of the stench of the city.

[Ivan Hangoverov]

Kommersant turned out to be a real truthful newspaper!! And those whom you believe are cheap lies, like the Khokhlyat “no losses.” So choose who to believe

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Ivan Hangoverov

Kommersant turned out to be a real truthful newspaper!!

Why did you decide that???

[kamski]

I’m sure without our friends “ISRAEL” and the handwriting is very similar it wouldn’t have happened

[Byural1941]

This news from Komersant is more like the truth! ....And it’s time for us to have the same law!......https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3514275

[Dietmar]

All the media that published this information refer to Kommersant, which, in turn, refers to anonymous sources in the Moscow Region. And Kommersant's correspondents are still clowns, take Yusin for example.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Dietmar

All the media that published this information refer to Kommersant, which, in turn, refers to anonymous sources in the Moscow Region. And Kommersant's correspondents are still clowns, take Yusin for example.

Nevertheless, the very fact of the attack on the Khmeimim airbase was, and there are dead... probably Kommersant’s sources still had information, and after this article the Ministry of Defense confirmed that there was an attack, but there is also no clarity about the planes, whether they were completely whole or mortar shelling damaged the aircraft, former Russian Minister of Economy Andrei Nechaev is already counting losses on Twitter, so it’s not a grateful thing to trust anyone here, whether the sources or the Ministry of Defense (an interested party). The fact that the sources are from military circles is 99% or someone from this circle, the information then falls under the classification of losses and other laws, including the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, if the source finds out - at least he will lose his job, at worst, he will be imprisoned.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Dietmar

All the media that published this information refer to Kommersant, which, in turn, refers to anonymous sources in the Moscow Region. And Kommersant's correspondents are still clowns, take Yusin for example.

So their yusin is the most adequate and is relatively more or less in our reality!!

[Shahno]

Until you receive confirmation. Be careful. There was an attack. The damage is unclear.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Shahno

Until you receive confirmation. Be careful. There was an attack. The damage is unclear.

The Ministry of Defense reported that two of us were killed during the shelling!! in this case, it would have been better to destroy 7 planes, but the military were all alive!!! in any case, the businessman, to the sound of the waves, staged a great fake... and they can hide behind the fact that, they say, there are already 2 dead, they say, why are you attached to the planes!!! in short, a well-thought-out sabotage on the part of the Liberal newspaper!!!

[Byural1941]

.... "Kommersant learned about the emergency at the Syrian airbase Khmeimim from two military-diplomatic sources. Without going into details, they reported" .... Very vague regarding the source of information!.... It was possible just refer to the attendants at the entrance!!!

[Uma palata]

"Torgash" reposted a fake from LiveJournal.
A familiar song - in the same way in Europe they “established” who shot down the Boeing.
In LiveJournal it is written, that means, iron 100% info.
Ugh ...
But what a squeak and squeal now stands like a stake on liberal sites, boiling water with happiness...
Yes, barmalei, apparently they definitely shot down the helicopter there. That's all.
The rest was inflated by liberals.
There is an information war going on, don’t forget. Closer to the elections, the Americans and their slaves will pour tons of shit and lies on us.
You don't need to believe anything right away. It’s time to understand, we’ve been “taught” for a quarter of a century...

[Ivan Hangoverov]

It turned out that Kommersant wrote the truth. And the new press secretary of the Ministry of Defense deceived us. The truth is better than a lie

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Ivan Hangoverov

It turned out that Kommersant wrote the truth. And the new press secretary of the Ministry of Defense deceived us. The truth is better than a lie

First of all, read what the businessman wrote!!!

[Lexus]

It is very difficult to comment on the situation with the deaths of people (the Ministry of Defense confirmed the death of 2 people at the Khmeimim airbase as a result of mortar shelling). I’m not going to get into a quarrel with the “urya” who have grown into their warm sofas, and, moreover, I’m not going to provide support to Kommersant who lied. The following facts are simply undeniable: the equipment at the base is crowded in an open parking lot, at least some of the aircraft are refueled and armed; It is extremely difficult to control the perimeter in the densely populated Latakia region to the depth of rocket and artillery fire. In such conditions, planning and carrying out a mortar attack is not at all burdensome. Possible consequences - depending on your luck. For example, history buffs may recall the incident with the detached tank on the USS Forrestal aircraft carrier. By the way, the Americans have learned how to counter incidents such as shelling. The same At-Tanf is surrounded by a security zone, into which the SAA poked its head several times with sad consequences for itself, and they calmed down. Ours are also “in no hurry” to appear there. It’s a shame that stupidity and carelessness, covered up by bravura statements and the “starfall” of the next military ranks and awards, takes place. The cost is loss of life and loss of expensive equipment.
In general, I’ll wait for the neighbor who is “there” now. Then there will be clarity.

[Dargavs]

Quote: lexus

The same At-Tanf is surrounded by a security zone, into which the SAA poked its head several times with sad consequences for itself, and they calmed down.

Well, probably such a shelling of the AtTANF base from a nearby refugee camp will restore the QUO status in the election campaign or IS THIS NOT OUR METHOD?

[passerby5]

do you really believe in this (in the shelling?)

[HEATHER]

Hook. Don’t post unverified data. You cling to the news, and the result is a fiasco. You can’t break through? Then it’s better to keep it to yourself. The site becomes a collection of information - “grandmother said.” Keep it up, guys!

[Alkonost]

Latest news on the wall. https://vk.com/roman_saponkov Alas, there is even a photo.(

[Victorio]

Quote: Alkonost

https://vk.com/roman_saponkov

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From this photo (place?, board?, when taken?) can we judge what happened at the airbase?

[Alkonost]

It just turns out that this VK user was the first to publish this sad news yesterday:
https://vk.com/roman_saponkov?w=wall216034_37194%
2Fall
And today he added:
https://vk.com/roman_saponkov?w=wall216034_37431%
2Fall
And later these photos:
https://vk.com/roman_saponkov?w=wall216034_37473%
2Fall
To believe him or not is everyone's business. He himself writes that there is no exact data on damaged cars, only that there is damage. I wrote that there were two dead, but this has already been officially stated. He also writes that there are many wounded, but here they are officially silent. So far I have no reason not to trust this information, but I would like to hope for the best. (

[Sands Careers General]

TASS stated that the planes were intact, two were killed, everything else was fake.
We'll see if this is true.

[Methane]

Quote: Sands Career General

TASS stated that the planes were intact, two were killed, everything else was fake.
We'll see if this is true.

On the cassade there are photos of the damaged cars.
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/

[Sands Careers General]

Damaged are not destroyed, as some people write here.

[anjey]

Quote: Tiras

Quote: PN

True eyes hurts?

The fantasies of some comrades are pricked.

usually the truth always hurts my eyes, fantasy only blurs the organ of vision... so thank you for the real assessment...

[anjey]

Quote: Tiras

Strips
Quote: anjey
The Yankees and Israel have a well-prepared gangster underground there. .

Nothing to blame on the mirror ...

what was said above leads to this, only the blind do not see the destructive world policy of the USA and their minions...

[Bare]

"Kommersant", and also December 31, 2017.
3p - finger, ceiling, floor, we sat thinking and figured out how to get up

[Vard]

Kommersant as a publication is now, to put it mildly, not in demand... so they took advantage of the yellow press to rise at least a little...

[Ivan Hangoverov]

It turned out that Kommersant wrote the truth - and the new press secretary of the Ministry of Defense was deceiving us

[Dimmedroll]

Ahah, the most authoritative sources have already posted the photos on other sources. I just feel sorry for the two guys. And PR people and authoritative sources, well, at least check a little information. Therefore, I don’t trust liberal sources.

[LeonidL]

And they don’t believe themselves... but they take the money, so they use their finger, dip it in the sensitive area, lick it and are full of inspired ideas!

[Ivan Hangoverov]

It turned out that Kommersant wrote the truth - and what you described apparently refers to “information”, press secretary of the Ministry of Defense

[Sergeant71]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Shahno

Until you receive confirmation. Be careful. There was an attack. The damage is unclear.

The Ministry of Defense reported that two of us were killed during the shelling!! in this case, it would have been better to destroy 7 planes, but the military were all alive!!! in any case, the businessman, to the sound of the waves, staged a great fake... and they can hide behind the fact that, they say, there are already 2 dead, they say, why are you attached to the planes!!! in short, a well-thought-out sabotage on the part of the Liberal newspaper!!!

If you are on social media. network in contact, you can watch a group called War in Syria. They posted photos of damaged aircraft. There is even a damaged Su-24 with a number that matches the previously published photo of it from our Russia Today. This is already direct evidence. So 99% is not fake, unfortunately((

[sapporo1959]

After the announcement of victory, our base was fired upon again, and those who were to blame were found to be guilty of this, as I read here for some reason in the Kommersant magazine and the liberals. However, what do they have to do with our brave generals who victoriously reported our almost victory?

[LeonidL]

The liberals are not firing mines, the liberals are firing at fakes and pouring streams of snot and drool of joy. Apparently, my dear, you really like this. Is not it?

[sapporo1959]

Well, what could I possibly like here? People died, planes were damaged, and are you talking about some kind of fake news?

[Pilot1980]

In fact, I know for sure that three Su-24s were damaged (shrapnel hits).
All cars are repairable.
The media simply does not understand the difference between “damaged” and “destroyed.”
"Kommersant" launched the canard "destroyed", the headquarters of the Russian Defense Ministry denied this, and rightly so. The headquarters of the Russian Ministry of Defense did not say that not a single vehicle was damaged.

[LeonidL]

"...if the data from the sources turns out to be correct..." A very eloquent clarification! If this were so, then all over the world's media would be filled with joy and snot of emotion and cries of great power would be flowing! The militants would have published at least columns of smoke with location reference. And well-wishers - pictures from space with crashed planes. So far this is not there and there is nothing to talk about. The shelling was carried out by a mortar (most likely by nomads, like those who fired in Dnetsk. The handwriting is the same). Pantsirs are unlikely to be able to intercept a mine - this is not a Grad, even 120 mm. If the warehouse is arranged normally, then such a mine is not scary for him. Airplanes are most likely parked overnight. Since there are no photos of the damaged equipment, it is most likely that there were casualties in personnel. The bad thing is that on New Year’s Eve the l/s most likely relaxed.

[Evgtan]

As military correspondent Roman Saponkov reports: “At the base in Khmeimim. However, the equipment was damaged. Previously, 6 Su-24, 1 Su-35S, 1 An-72, 1 An-30 reconnaissance aircraft, 1 Mi-8. 2 Su-24 and Su-35S has been put into service."

[Captain Nemo]

By the way, I recommend viewing his page on VK. Very entertaining, and sometimes very harsh towards the information workers of the Moscow Region

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Captain Nemo

By the way, I recommend viewing his page on VK. Very entertaining, and sometimes very harsh towards the information workers of the Moscow Region

We have such a war correspondent - Romchik Saponkov. Here is his account on VK - Roman Saponkov. Covered conflicts in Donbass and Syria. The materials he gave were trump cards, no complaints about that. Over time, as it should be, I acquired regular readers and people who dropped by once a week. Since I often hung out in the comments under his posts, I noticed that among the former, members of Tolik Nesmiyan’s circle dominated. Actually, the phenomenon is abnormal. Only over time did they realize that they were drawn to Saponkov for the same reason that they read Tolik. Saponkov, like Nesmiyan, made an extremely rare sample.

Here is one example. I am copying from my post on one well-known forum.......

https://domu4.livejournal.com/100392.html

[slaventi]

Leave a link to Fake News. The photo is absolutely not convincing to support another fake by American liberals?

[Jurkovs]

The security battalion was withdrawn. The functions were transferred to the Syrians. The fact is clear.

[Leonid Har]

Two Su24 and Su35 were restored

[Vanych]

I read this news: a helicopter tripped over a power line, along the way it collected seven planes (which, by the way, are in shelters) and crushed two fighters, they weren’t smart enough for more

[Tolik_74]

The latest news from the American "Fake News"

[Jacob Agranov]

This time we will forgive, but if the terrorists raise their heads again, we will strike them with blows that they have never seen before

[Captain Nemo]

We, is it you personally? Or the entire Soviet people?

[Jacob Agranov]

Personally Putin

[Johann Weiss]

For the second day in a row, RTR, Russia 24 unobtrusively shows at the same base a “damaged” Sushka with tail number 29, taking off to accompany a transporter to Damascus!

[Ivan Hangoverov]

This became known from independent journalists. I have already subscribed to his blog, this journalist, even though he is a liberal. But it’s better to know the truth than the lies of paid relatives (?), daughters, granddaughters, mistresses, etc. Who were given lucrative positions and who started lying about “there are no losses” and “it’s all fake.” The same evil spirits once lied about the “dappled boy”. And in Khokhlosra-nia for two years in a row they shouted about “no losses.” We laughed at them, ergo we need to bend our liars.

[Sanechca]

It’s amazing, why don’t the militants attack the Americans who defeated them???

[tank64rus]

Let Kommersant publish all this live on air in the presence of representatives of the Moscow Region. And if this is a lie, then the correspondent should be fired immediately, if it is true there is demand from the Moscow Region.

[Lucy]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Express your thoughts clearly, and people will be drawn to you... lyusya.

Maybe I can also fall and do push-ups?
If my thoughts are difficult to perceive in the tank troops, then I can’t help.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: lusya

nothing I can not help

* ничем
However, there is a Freudian slip in this case. Because you still need to confirm the destruction of the planes nothing... Lucy

[Lucy]

It is easier to refute the Delhi RTR propaganda.

So are you a teacher of the Russian language, or a Marxist specialist like Konashenkov on all sorts of military and political issues?

[Captain Nemo]

Isn't it time to erase this fake from the site?

[Protos]

Someone farted again, but the smell was brought to us by the author of the note

[Indifferent]

If the Khmeimim base had actually been bombed (after all, these are seven planes with some of the fuel in the tanks, and even a warehouse with ammunition), then the “New Year’s fireworks” would have been visible for 10 km in the area, especially at night. The locals all have phones with cameras, albeit poor ones. And not a single movie! This is simply impossible! Now there would be millions of views on YouTube, but there is nothing! So much for Kommersant. He screwed our Ministry of Defense and nothing will happen to him for it!

[yousha1980]

Well, maybe they put a few mines nearby. Maybe it was hit by shrapnel. They'll patch it up. It’s not fatal, but the MO doesn’t want to talk about it either.
If 7 planes were destroyed, it would be difficult to hide it.