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Media: Militants destroyed seven aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces during the shelling of Khmeimim airbase

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According to the publication Kommersant, citing its own sources, 31 December 2017, the Hmeimim airbase (Syrian province of Lattakia) was subjected to mortar fire by radical Islamists, as a result of which combat aircraft were lost


Media: Militants destroyed seven aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces during the shelling of Khmeimim airbase


The emergency at the Syrian airbase Hmeimim “Kommersant” became known from two military and diplomatic sources. Without going into details, they reported that the militants of one of the terrorist groups fired at a Russian military facility in Syria, as a result of which four Su-24 bombers, two Su-35C fighters, one An-72 transport, and an ammunition depot that detonated were actually destroyed. after hitting a mortar shell. In total, according to unofficial data, more than ten soldiers could have suffered.

The publication notes that if the data sources are correct, this incident can be considered one of the most serious incidents during the military air operation of Russia in Syria.

At the moment there is no official confirmation of this incident from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. The military department only officially confirmed the death of two pilots piloting the Russian Mi-24 helicopter that day. According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, there was no fire impact on the helicopter - the technology itself failed.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 4 January 2018 07: 38
    34
    It began. There is a joke about the lieutenant Rzhevsky and Natasha Rostov. Where they walked, he fell, he shook it off and went on. And the reteller to the sixth:
    -Rzhevsky Rostov set up the bandwagon.
    And the one hundred and one hundred and first in general:
    -Rzhevsky sat on a birch and sent all the NA.
    So wait for the video and official explanations from our MO.
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 4 January 2018 07: 51
      13
      There is no longer any joke. We will wait for an official clarification from the MO. Although, if you look at the “Military Acceptance”: “Hmeimim Base. Part 2,” you can’t see the protective shelters for the aircraft. But on Shairat they are.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 4 January 2018 07: 58
        44
        found someone to believe, “merchant” is still that merchant. how many times “b” fired a bullet, it turned out to be zilch.
        1. katana
          katana 4 January 2018 08: 18
          16
          Quote: newbie
          found someone to believe, “merchant” is still that merchant. how many times “b” fired a bullet, it turned out to be zilch.

          Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"
          1. zyzx
            zyzx 4 January 2018 08: 26
            29
            Well, the newspaper is lying, every week it writes about a sharp drop in the ruble, it has been writing for 2 months already. So after the new year, the first article about the collapse came out .... well, where is the smoke? Where is the fire?
            1. Thrall
              Thrall 4 January 2018 08: 47
              22
              Fake. We diverge.
              1. novel66
                novel66 4 January 2018 09: 24
                10
                hi but to have fun, since we’ve gathered?
                1. Inok10
                  Inok10 4 January 2018 21: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  but to have fun, since we’ve gathered?

                  ... ah, the point? ...
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 5 January 2018 09: 54
                    +4
                    the main thing is to start, and there it will go
              2. Vladimirsky
                Vladimirsky 4 January 2018 09: 57
                11
                Perhaps the turntable was overwhelmed when it tried to cover the air base?
                And they are silent, because there is nothing to report enthusiastically.
                1. Dryuya2
                  Dryuya2 4 January 2018 10: 11
                  +6
                  Quote: Vladimirsky
                  Perhaps the turntable was overwhelmed when it tried to cover the air base?

                  1. Dr_engie
                    Dr_engie 4 January 2018 13: 03
                    +2
                    And where is the rear? There is also no front right now.
                    And about the power transmission line - it really happens, it seems like the Swan helicopter hit the wires, as they say.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 4 January 2018 14: 09
                      +5
                      4 of January, in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation denied information about the destruction of Russian military aircraft.
                      However, the department confirmed the fact of the shelling itself, and also reported that two Russian servicemen were its victims
                2. sgazeev
                  sgazeev 4 January 2018 14: 55
                  +3
                  Quote: Vladimirsky
                  Perhaps the turntable was overwhelmed when it tried to cover the air base?
                  And they are silent, because there is nothing to report enthusiastically.

                  The Mi-28 is almost "ancient" and a technology failure is possible. I remember ours drove a pair of Mi-28s from the factory to the customer of the NNA GDR. They were forced to sit at our Finovsky airfield, drove the oil from the gearbox, found a crack, the Mapovskys changed the gearbox in a few hours. So you will not guess where you will fall.
                  1. helmi8
                    helmi8 6 January 2018 12: 45
                    +1
                    Quote: sgazeev
                    Mi-28 is almost "ancient" and a technology failure is possible. I remember ours drove a pair of Mi-28 from the factory to the customer NNA GDR

                    Do not confuse anything? Mi-28 and Mi-24 are completely different helicopters ... laughing
              3. Reserve officer
                Reserve officer 4 January 2018 13: 54
                +7
                "The publication notes that if the source data is correct ..."

                Those. this publication does not have confidence in the veracity of the statement. But the craving for the dissemination of unverified information is enormous. The rating is ...
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 4 January 2018 16: 48
                  +6
                  Quote: Stock Officer
                  "The publication notes that if the source data is correct ..."

                  Those. this publication does not have confidence in the veracity of the statement. But the craving for the dissemination of unverified information is enormous. The rating is ...

                  So, a businessman who likes to rivet something like that ... especially if it is negative and against our government !!! in this case, along the way, they used the case of the tragic death of our two military men and muddied a rather large-scale fake !!! negative negative negative rare creatures !!!
              4. Antidote
                Antidote 4 January 2018 19: 18
                +5
                I want to believe, but no.
                1. Kent0001
                  Kent0001 5 January 2018 01: 03
                  +7
                  Specialists said that fake. Explosion in the photo from the inside, not from the outside. Where the pictures are from is not known.
                  1. passerby5
                    passerby5 5 January 2018 05: 38
                    +4
                    this is not drying
                  2. Lucy
                    Lucy 6 January 2018 23: 09
                    0
                    Inside is what and how?
                    Where the photo came from, it’s already more than once the surname, and the addressee was laid out.
                2. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 5 January 2018 19: 29
                  +3
                  Quote: Antidote
                  I want to believe, but no.

                  what not ??? recourse recourse recourse Have you ever read that he dashed "businessman" in his article ??? fool fool fool
                  1. Lucy
                    Lucy 5 January 2018 23: 26
                    0
                    https://vk.com/roman_saponkov
                3. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 6 January 2018 00: 19
                  +3


                  the plot begins at 9,00 min ... at 10,36 - 10,41 "29th" SU !!! request request request

                  By the way, it is very likely that this plot, let’s say, is an asymmetric answer to the fake of the “businessman” !!! repeat repeat
                4. The comment was deleted.
                5. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 6 January 2018 00: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: Antidote
                  I want to believe, but no.



                  the plot begins at 9,00 min ... at 10,36 - 10,41 "29th" SU !!! request request request

                  By the way, it is very likely that this plot, let’s say, is an asymmetric answer to the fake of the “businessman” !!! repeat repeat
          2. newcomer
            newcomer 4 January 2018 08: 29
            10
            you, then katana where you fly ahead of the engine? the reader “b”.
          3. kartalovkolya
            kartalovkolya 4 January 2018 08: 41
            13
            Is it really not clear that now the task of the “Liberests" in their mass media is to pour as much shit as possible on Russia and Putin, maybe in the bustle of the election campaign, and then you look and forget ...
            1. jovanni
              jovanni 4 January 2018 12: 34
              +5
              Quote: kartalovkolya
              Is it really not clear that now the task of the “Liberests" in their mass media is to pour as much shit as possible on Russia and Putin, maybe in the bustle of the election campaign, and then you look and forget ...

              In this case, the Ministry of Defense should sue these comrades-in-arms for defamation, because this message (if it is false) Maliciously distorts the situation with the combat readiness of our Armed Forces. And this, in turn, provokes disadvantages to new attempts to attack us ...
              1. al.schenaev
                al.schenaev 8 January 2018 22: 04
                +2
                And that MO has no other ways to restore the truth without trial and investigation?
            2. freddyk
              freddyk 6 January 2018 01: 21
              0
              kartalovkolya, Putin now does not need to be afraid of liberals, there is no threat from them, but the Communists, who can move him, and you can’t blame him on the State Department, they are also patriots. And he also refuses to debate. Is he too self-confident?
          4. icas
            icas 4 January 2018 08: 43
            17
            The owner of Kommersant is A. Usmanov, who is not a tax resident of Russia with 2015. Draw conclusions.
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 4 January 2018 10: 02
              +9
              Quote: icas
              The owner of Kommersant is A. Usmanov, who is not a tax resident of Russia with 2015. Draw conclusions.

              Knight of the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" IV Degree
              1. Sinbad
                Sinbad 4 January 2018 13: 42
                +4
                Yes, we regularly give every seam or order. It’s a pity that they don’t shoot then as under Stalin!
            2. Captain45
              Captain45 4 January 2018 11: 51
              +2
              Quote: icas
              The owner of Kommersant is A. Usmanov, who is not a tax resident of Russia with 2015. Draw conclusions.

              He’s also the husband of the head coach of the rhythmic gymnastics team Irina Vinner. There was a TV report recently, Winner opened a new rhythmic gymnastics center where there is literally everything from zero. The cost of the center is 2 billion rubles. I wonder where she got them? how my husband found a stash lol
              1. kush62
                kush62 4 January 2018 17: 55
                +4
                Captain45 Today, 11:51 ↑ New
                He’s also the husband of the head coach of the rhythmic gymnastics team Irina Vinner. There was a TV report recently, Winner opened a new rhythmic gymnastics center where there is literally everything from zero. The cost of the center is 2 billion rubles. I wonder where she got them? how my husband found a stash

                We have opened a new rhythmic gymnastics center in Russia where there is literally everything from zero. Is it really not patriotic or much worse than buying Chelsea.
                1. Captain45
                  Captain45 4 January 2018 23: 38
                  +4
                  [quote = kush62] We have opened a new rhythmic gymnastics center in Russia where there is literally everything from zero. Is it really not patriotic or much worse than buying Chelsea. [/ quote
                  So that’s the question, Winner is already opening the third such center and all of them are built with money from A. Usmanov. I think this is no worse than buying Chelsea.
                  1. Stirbjorn
                    Stirbjorn 5 January 2018 10: 33
                    0
                    Quote: Captain45
                    So that’s the question, Winner is already opening the third such center and all of them are built with money from A. Usmanov. I think this is no worse than buying Chelsea.

                    If you are talking about Novogorsk, then this is a cottage village, the whole text is dedicated to him, and the school is there for a look - and obviously not for ordinary children, I don’t see a boarding school, for example, for nonresident people. By the way, Usmanov owns shares of the London Arsenal, and where does Chelsea ?!
                    http://www.od-novogorsk.ru/
                2. Axon
                  Axon 6 January 2018 14: 51
                  0
                  and what's wrong with that?
            3. You Vlad
              You Vlad 4 January 2018 17: 03
              0
              Quote: icas
              The owner of Kommersant is A. Usmanov, who has not been a tax resident of Russia since 2015.

              Where do you get the information from?
          5. just exp
            just exp 4 January 2018 09: 09
            12
            but there is another proverb - to liberals to believe, not to respect themselves.
            Do you remember how was the case with a type of discreet base with our helicopters? and how did satellite images of the type of destroyed turntables be shown there?
            So what ? where is all this? where are all those iksperds and their pictures?
            1. Flies
              Flies 4 January 2018 09: 19
              +5
              There were no destroyed tops, but there were damaged ones. It was exactly. Unfortunately.
              1. just exp
                just exp 4 January 2018 09: 24
                +2
                so they wrote about the destroyed and put photos where burned turntables are visible.
                and what? this fake became true because of a fake photo?
                1. Flies
                  Flies 4 January 2018 09: 34
                  +7
                  I repeat once again that this is not a fake. Cars were sent from Syria 3 sides. Where, from where the regiment and how I know I am not going to spread. But the security of the airbase then loosed. That's all. Whether you believe it or not, I don't care. But in the light of that approach, I'm afraid that anything is possible.
            2. katana
              katana 4 January 2018 09: 31
              +2
              Quote: just EXPL
              but there is another proverb - to liberals to believe, not to respect themselves.
              Do you remember how was the case with a type of discreet base with our helicopters? and how did satellite images of the type of destroyed turntables be shown there?
              So what ? where is all this? where are all those iksperds and their pictures?

              Go down below the comments, there forum users have already posted these
          6. 79807420129
            79807420129 4 January 2018 09: 14
            12
            Quote: katana
            Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

            A miracle in feathers, how many times did Kommersant launch a bullet to you without the knowledge? fool Western publications are also silent, although if there is such a thing, they would be trumpeted about it at all angles.
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            So I have a video how SU 57 works on the IG

            A colleague, where did the SU-57 come from in Syria? belay
          7. Non liberoid Russian
            Non liberoid Russian 4 January 2018 09: 40
            +3
            you are pathetic in your efforts to make a lie a lie ... feykotvink cheap
          8. Awaz
            Awaz 4 January 2018 09: 49
            +1
            there was a shelling attempt. From this, all sorts of people jump and fan the topic.
          9. avt
            avt 4 January 2018 10: 14
            +6
            Quote: katana

            Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

            Wai me! Eats, everything is eaten by the Russians. Now show the smoke. Well, specific photos from the google there, or the site of the militants. When ours just arrived, the photos were posted at the moment. When the turntable was overwhelmed - the video was instantly posted. Here, as many as 31 were burned by almost a squadron - nothing. When the facts lay out, then let the smoke.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 4 January 2018 10: 22
              +9
              "Russian Defense Ministry: as a result of shelling by militants of the Khmeimim airbase, two servicemen were killed" - the Russian Ministry of Defense gave an answer.

              And some, especially sharp on the tongue, cutting the "truth-womb" of the sharpening of the Armenian spill, cannot answer in an adult way. Tokma bark around the corner.
            2. masik172
              masik172 5 January 2018 10: 43
              0
              well, that is, the bearded had to get into the air base, and take off?
          10. sabakina
            sabakina 4 January 2018 12: 36
            +4
            Armenians, the Russians have another proverb: "Not all the gold that glitters."
          11. The comment was deleted.
          12. flicker
            flicker 4 January 2018 12: 51
            +3
            they often count on it, they say, since there is no smoke without fire, you can blow up the smoke and everyone will think that the fire ... the more the smoke, the more the fire will seem.
          13. 97110
            97110 4 January 2018 17: 35
            +5
            Quote: katana
            The Russians have a saying: "There is no smoke without fire!"

            The sons of lawyers also have a proverb: "Look, who benefits." Given the usual habit of Russians, especially those with the rank of bureaucrats, the habit of obtaining permission to publish any information from the highest possible official, a prolonged silence can be interpreted as confirmation of the presence of fire, and as confirmation of the lack of access to the decision-maker on the publication of the corresponding status. On the other hand, there is no doubt about the ability of the enemies of Russia to destroy once again (now in Syria!) The 76th Airborne Division, together with 8 aircraft and an enormous number of personnel secretly buried somewhere where fresh graves special people specializing in the search for such graves will be found a special feeling of hatred for Russia in the blood.
          14. Prisoner
            Prisoner 5 January 2018 08: 31
            0
            It happens. Any chemist will tell you this or magazine-x-ah.
          15. Nikolay Fedorov
            Nikolay Fedorov 5 January 2018 17: 40
            +1
            Quote: katana
            Quote: newbie
            found someone to believe, “merchant” is still that merchant. how many times “b” fired a bullet, it turned out to be zilch.

            Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

            There is nothing to remember here. Everyone believes the old Russophobe Katana right away. He is such a master in Russian sayings!
          16. Aqela
            Aqela 10 January 2018 23: 18
            0
            Quote: katana
            Quote: newbie
            found someone to believe, “merchant” is still that merchant. how many times “b” fired a bullet, it turned out to be zilch.

            Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

            Smoke without fire happens. At least fog.
        2. novel66
          novel66 4 January 2018 09: 23
          +9
          Good! hi after the first mine, a helicopter would take off and there would be no one to shoot from
          1. verner1967
            verner1967 4 January 2018 13: 50
            0
            Quote: novel xnumx
            after the first mine, a helicopter would take off and there would be no one to shoot

            it would be nice, but the pilots are not suicides to run under mortar fire, on May 11, 1984, during the shelling of the airfield in Bagram, no one took off, although the losses were great.
            1. novel66
              novel66 5 January 2018 09: 59
              +2
              but the second lieutenant Grasshopper - took off!
              1. verner1967
                verner1967 5 January 2018 10: 00
                0
                Quote: novel xnumx
                but the second lieutenant Grasshopper - took off!

                A good movie, but life, unfortunately, is far from a movie.
                1. novel66
                  novel66 5 January 2018 10: 02
                  +3
                  yes, yes! request
                  1. verner1967
                    verner1967 5 January 2018 10: 10
                    0
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    yes, yes!

                    so from ....
                2. al.schenaev
                  al.schenaev 8 January 2018 22: 10
                  +1
                  Then the price of such a life is worthless
                  1. verner1967
                    verner1967 9 January 2018 19: 35
                    +1
                    Quote: al.schenaev
                    Then the price of such a life is worthless

                    Well, yes, you are our sofa warrior, at home it’s more convenient to attack
              2. Nikolay Fedorov
                Nikolay Fedorov 5 January 2018 17: 45
                +2
                Quote: novel xnumx
                but the second lieutenant Grasshopper - took off!

                On your profile picture with a cap! It seems that they should sort out the ranks ... He has shoulder straps not of the second lieutenant, but of the lieutenant. Anyway - this is a movie character, but in life everything is more complicated ...
                1. novel66
                  novel66 5 January 2018 21: 04
                  +2
                  boring, dear! wink but in life without such Grasshoppers, it’s just more difficult. I remembered how a junior lieutenant, all the more so when they let out the younger ones, and in the photo - well, the photo from the film is even further from life, than the film itself
                  1. verner1967
                    verner1967 9 January 2018 19: 32
                    +1
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    I remembered how a junior lieutenant, all the more so when they let out junior

                    and you don’t bend your soul, he was one of their group who was released by a lieutenant, you see, there were merits.
                    1. novel66
                      novel66 10 January 2018 08: 24
                      0
                      accelerated release - "take-off and landing" ... what kind of merits are there, and is it really the rank?
                      1. verner1967
                        verner1967 10 January 2018 19: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: novel xnumx
                        accelerated release - take-off and landing ...

                        and that, someone “a pilot from God” and then became “Kozhedub”, and someone barely starting to fly, died in a plane crash. And then we studied together. For your information, the best graduates of accelerated issues were awarded the military rank of lieutenant.
          2. Lucy
            Lucy 5 January 2018 23: 37
            +1
            And how does this happen in time and place?
            You probably didn’t see the “live” RS, and how the aircraft burn in the parking lot after shelling, in the presence of military guards, minefields, occasional shelling on the squares of nearby territories, air cover of the airfield at night with a pair of helicopters with flights 2x180 with off. by the lights.
            The planes were really burned.
            This happens, happened, and will be. Get used to the guys.
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 6 January 2018 00: 29
              +2
              Quote: lusya
              And how does this happen in time and place?
              You probably didn’t see the “live” RS, and how the aircraft burn in the parking lot after shelling, in the presence of military guards, minefields, occasional shelling on the squares of nearby territories, air cover of the airfield at night with a pair of helicopters with flights 2x180 with off. by the lights.
              The planes were really burned.
              This happens, happened, and will be. Get used to the guys.


              the plot begins at 9,00 min ... at 10,36 - 10,41 "29th" SU !!! request request request

              By the way, it is very likely that this plot, let’s say, is an asymmetric answer to the fake of the “businessman” !!! repeat repeat
              1. Lucy
                Lucy 6 January 2018 23: 28
                0
                I am not fond of TV propaganda, especially "Russia1". I didn’t even watch the proposed video.
                I do not have 2500 comments! But.
                I rarely comment on the basis of my practical experience. The protection and defense of the airport crooks, I think, has not fundamentally changed in 30 years.
                The fact that the planes burned is quite real.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 6 January 2018 23: 39
                  +6
                  Quote: lusya
                  I rarely comment on the basis of my practical experience

                  Intrigued, really.
                  I got into your comments, and what did I see?
                  And here, for example:
                  Quote: lusya December 7, 2017 19:16
                  I do not agree.
                  I knew individual scholars-trap-takers who were able to blast into a bridge during the night, l-ka-inspector for half the salary. This is a garage elite that needs to be bowed to them.
                  Happy Holidays!

                  And, basically, things like that.
                  To say that I am disappointed ... perhaps not enough request
                  Quote: lusya
                  The fact that the planes burned is quite real

                  So really burnedor real that could burn?
                  Express your thoughts clearly, and people will reach for you ... Lucy.
                  1. Lucy
                    Lucy 6 January 2018 23: 44
                    0
                    What is the meaning of your writings on the subject?
                    And where does the holiday at IAS?
                    And who are the cheesecakes, do you know? Or again disappointment?
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 6 January 2018 23: 57
                      +5
                      Quote: lusya
                      .

                      I gave your comment, which seemed to me ... typical. In response to your
                      Quote: lusya
                      I rarely comment on the basis of my practical experience

                      Judging by your comments, you really have rich experience.
                      But - not about that: enlighten, do not let the fool die: yours
                      Quote: lusya
                      burned airplanes is quite real

                      - What, in translation into Russian generally understood, means?
        3. 1 Navigator
          1 Navigator 4 January 2018 11: 48
          0
          Already on all news sites they write, but you all do not believe.
        4. xetai9977
          xetai9977 4 January 2018 12: 29
          +4
          The Stopudovo turntable was bombarded at the same time as he was trying to figure out the shooters. MO naturally will not talk about it. Copied from the Americans. They also have the technique of "never knock down, she falls." 2 pilots and 2 at the base. This is what is recognized. Surely something definitely happened there. And everyone will find out about this only after the video materials posted by the militants.
      2. svp67
        svp67 4 January 2018 08: 09
        +6
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        There is no longer any joke.

        Correctly. Now there are enough programs when you can look at the Earth from satellites, on-line, that is, in real time. Find the Latakia airfield and take a look at the traces of the explosion and burnt planes .... I can see 7 Su-24s, and three Su-30s and Su-35s each ....
        1. sabotage
          sabotage 4 January 2018 08: 13
          29
          Online, in real time? Which service has these features?
          1. 210ox
            210ox 4 January 2018 08: 38
            +4
            Interesting. News from the 31st, today is the fourth .. Even if we take into account the holidays and the insanity of everything that can only be. The pictures would already be in the messages. So far, nothing .... Although ...
            Quote: sabotage
            Online, in real time? Which service has these features?
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 4 January 2018 08: 43
              +4
              If our pictures may come up later, or not at all. Depending on the political situation.
              1. Non liberoid Russian
                Non liberoid Russian 4 January 2018 09: 41
                +6
                Yes, they’re not there, they don’t come up
                1. svp67
                  svp67 4 January 2018 11: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
                  Yes, they’re not there, they don’t come up
                  To the point
        2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 4 January 2018 08: 15
          14
          We’ll see. I’m not sure about the availability of current satellite images. And information about the shelling may be fake. So I generally have a video on how 57 SU works on the IG fellow .
          1. untouchable6891
            untouchable6891 4 January 2018 11: 52
            0
            Are you playing ARMA 3? NOT constructive. What for?
        3. milling machine
          milling machine 4 January 2018 08: 16
          +9
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          There is no longer any joke.

          Correctly. Now there are enough programs when you can look at the Earth from satellites, on-line, that is, in real time. Find the Latakia airfield and take a look at the traces of the explosion and burnt planes .... I can see 7 Su-24s, and three Su-30s and Su-35s each ....

          Online? Real time? Satellite imagery. Yes you are raving.
          1. svp67
            svp67 4 January 2018 08: 30
            +2
            Quote: frezer
            Online? Real time? Satellite imagery. Yes you are raving.

            https://space.utema.ru/earth-online/
            1. milling machine
              milling machine 4 January 2018 08: 47
              15
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: frezer
              Online? Real time? Satellite imagery. Yes you are raving.

              https://space.utema.ru/earth-online/

              What nonsense you threw me. With the same success, you can shoot the globe.
              You give me a link to a site where satellite images in real time, which even shows at home. There are no such. So do not fool people.
              1. svp67
                svp67 4 January 2018 11: 08
                +1
                Quote: frezer
                You give me a link to a site where satellite images in real time, which even shows at home. There are no such. So do not fool people.

                Dear WIPE YOUR EYES AND LEARN TO USE A COMPUTER.
                Dial Earth with ISS in REAL TIME
                Here is a snapshot from 04 January 2018 year 08.13 Moscow ....

                Can you see it well? I CAN BUILD UP. Well, even so visible and "dry"

                and An-72, in a separate area

                And the Tu-154 ...
                1. Pilot1980
                  Pilot1980 5 January 2018 00: 50
                  0
                  Quote: svp67
                  Here is a snapshot from 04 January 2018 year 08.13 Moscow ....
                  Dear, 8 in the morning at Moscow time is 7 in the morning at the airbase, do not the shadows confuse you?
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 09: 33
              14
              do not tell anyone else
              this is the movement of a satellite with a google map map substrate
        4. Spez
          Spez 4 January 2018 08: 18
          +3
          Find the Latakia airfield and take a look at the traces of the explosion and burnt planes .... I can see 7 Su-24s, and three Su-30s and Su-35s each ....

          Can I clarify what is burnt?
          1. svp67
            svp67 4 January 2018 08: 23
            +2
            Quote: Spez
            Can I clarify what is burnt?

            Not yet WHOLE. We will wait for the update and the passage of the ISS, in an hour. That area under the sun.
            1. Strips
              Strips 4 January 2018 08: 45
              +1
              Quote: svp67
              Not yet WHOLE. We will wait for the update and the passage of the ISS, in an hour. That area under the sun.




              Quote: svp67
              https://space.utema.ru/earth-online/




              FAQ
              Question: Can I see planes and ships?
              Answer: No, high.



              what what
              1. albert
                albert 4 January 2018 17: 31
                0
                Quote: Tiras
                FAQ
                Question: Can I see planes and ships?
                Answer: No, high.

                This is if you look through the cameras on the ISS.
            2. Spez
              Spez 4 January 2018 08: 59
              +5
              Those. there wasn’t a mortar attack yet? What year is it on the timer?
        5. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 09: 24
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Now there are enough programs when you can look at the Earth from satellites, on-line

          and don’t give a reference to such a resource?
          1. Evgeniy667b
            Evgeniy667b 4 January 2018 10: 11
            +5
            Something did not have to meet online from space in the public domain. I was interested in this topic for professional reasons, but at 15 bucks per square kilometer, it somehow runs a lot. In the best case, this is once a quarter, or even six months. Now the question is to svp67 The event of the shelling of the base happened, it would seem, on December 31.12., are the normal sides shown on the pictures, which were shown today, in an hour from the ISS? will produce svezhak perhaps with debris, and where is the logic ??? In the GOOGL pictures I saw the Khmeimim base, where the aircraft stand in orderly rows in the parking lot. Neither caponiers nor dispersal are close there. Is such carelessness and self-confidence of our commanders? And mortars can be pulled up on donkeys, assembled and used, and if anything, legs can be made. Their bin is "peaceful citizens" of their country. ???
        6. Kent0001
          Kent0001 5 January 2018 01: 07
          0
          reference, please. I want to see it too.
        7. Lucy
          Lucy 5 January 2018 23: 43
          0
          Let's have no hunchback.
      3. the most important
        the most important 4 January 2018 08: 54
        26
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        We will wait for an official clarification from the MO. Although now if you look at the “Military Acceptance”: “Hmeimim Base. Part 2,” you can’t see the protective shelters for the aircraft. But on Shairat they are.

        This is the result of uncontrollable bravado. Only two weeks passed, as through all channels with tears of tenderness they showed the MAIN, withdrawing troops from Syria in connection with a complete victory! And then it became clear how the picture on the TV is far from reality. Unfortunately, this is so in everything. And the base of Khmeimim is located very poorly ... It is impossible to protect it from shelling. The base should be in the desert, no matter what around a single blade of grass for 300 miles around! So that any gopher can be seen around with the naked eye. Where are the protective hangars for aircraft ?? They should be not only in Syria, but throughout Russia! Trump has already shown in Shairat what level of protection they need to be built. For this, he must be given the medal "Honored Teacher." But the lessons did not go for the future ... Is it really so difficult to erect a hangar and pour it with concrete, and plant grass on top ??? How many partners can be trusted (or afraid ??) ?? They will ALWAYS try to destroy Russia with the wrong hands!
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 5 January 2018 01: 13
          +1
          All this is burp, to blacken the commander in chief? Uzbagy and continue to lie on the couch, do not go from you to the MO are sitting and they know you more than anyone else. I see as many as 20 "sofas" your "healthy" thought was supported.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 6 January 2018 00: 31
            +2
            Quote: Kent0001
            I see as many as 20 "sofas" your "healthy" thought was supported.

            22 wassat wassat negative negative
      4. Grafova Irina
        Grafova Irina 4 January 2018 08: 57
        +1
        Why is the MiG-21 (or Su-7) pictured?
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 4 January 2018 09: 07
          +3
          December 28, 2017 AL-MASDAR NEWS Original
          AMN: Russian aviation avenged militants for attempting to attack Khmeimim
          Material presented in retelling InoTV
          Short link
          581316
          The Russian Aerospace Forces conducted a massive attack on the positions of jihadists near the Syrian city of Jisr al-Shugur. The reason for the operation was an attempt by militants to launch rocket fire at the Russian air base Khmeimim, writes Al-Masdar News.
          AMN: Russian aviation takes revenge on militants for attempting to attack Khmeimim
          Russian VKS retaliated against jihadists for attempting to launch a missile strike at Syrian air base Khmeimim, writes Al-Masdar News. According to the publication, Moscow’s planes launched a powerful air campaign, the main purpose of which was the bases and mobilization centers of the militants in the vicinity of the settlements of Bidama and Al-Najiya.

          It was found that the launch of missiles was carried out from these settlements located to the west of the city of Jisr al-Sugur. Fortunately for the Russian military, their air defense system was able to neutralize the enemy’s missiles, the article emphasizes.

          To date, Russian aviation has inflicted more than 10 attacks on militant positions. The military plans to continue the operation against the jihadist stronghold in the region, which is notorious for the huge number of foreign mercenaries, including from Chechnya and China, the publication claims.

          “Be that as it may, a missile attack is a dangerous precedent that the Russians do not intend to get away with and ignore,” Al-Masdar News concludes.
          InoTV's materials contain estimates of exclusively foreign media and do not reflect the position of RT

          Original news InoTV:
          https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2017-12-28/AMN-rossi
          jskaya-aviaciya-otomstila-boevikam
        2. Spez
          Spez 4 January 2018 09: 27
          +2
          Su-20. Base Shairat.
      5. Dart2027
        Dart2027 4 January 2018 10: 41
        0
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        We will wait for an official clarification from the MO

        As far as I remember, there was an article which said that the rockets were shot down by the Shell.
      6. alexmach
        alexmach 4 January 2018 13: 19
        +2
        What other sheltered shelters are for nowhere else for modern aircraft. This is an old, still Soviet-built for the Mig-21, modern aircraft with a slightly larger wingspan there actually does not fit.
      7. Vilensky
        Vilensky 4 January 2018 13: 20
        +3
        “These messages are fake”: the Russian Ministry of Defense has denied data on the destruction of seven VKS aircraft based on Khmeimim
        https://russian.rt.com/world/article/467047-siriy
        a-obstrel-baza
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 4 January 2018 09: 09
      +9
      In fairness, if this happened on December 31, then the military of the United States or Israel would already have taken satellite photographs of the base and put them on public display. But this has not happened yet. Most likely a fake.
    3. Juborg
      Juborg 4 January 2018 12: 25
      +3
      Fake news went like fried pies. Not one photo and video, but the liberal media in ecstasy made dancing, and Military Review supported this dance. Admin VO left button accordion break.
      1. ando_bor
        ando_bor 4 January 2018 16: 02
        +2
        Quote: juborg
        and "Military Review", this dance supported

        IN an American resource focused on Russian patriots, it is by definition supposed to support such dances, for which it is supported.
    4. vrazhin
      vrazhin 5 January 2018 07: 55
      +1
      In the category of storytellers of anecdotes, our MO is increasingly leaving.
      That screenshots from the game lead, as evidence, now they deny damage to aircraft. NINE !!!!!!!!!! planes and. One helicopter! Two dead and ELEVEN !!!!!!!! wounded!
      And these anegdotch woodpeckers are afraid to admit that they do not even control the 3-kilometer zone around the base!
  2. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 4 January 2018 07: 38
    21
    Yesterday I read this at Saponkov. Prior to publication in the Commersant. But to be honest, I don’t know what to say before any reaction from MORF. All the same, the information is sharp enough, the press service should at least refute it.
    1. Professor
      Professor 4 January 2018 08: 18
      10
      On the one hand, it is hard to believe about such losses. On the other hand, the equipment stands in a row in the open air.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 4 January 2018 08: 33
        +5
        Quote: Professor
        On the one hand, it is hard to believe about such losses. On the other hand, the equipment stands in a row in the open air.

        This is yes.

        But still, the losses are clearly inflated.
      2. Spez
        Spez 4 January 2018 09: 10
        10
        This is strange. To inflict such damage, it is necessary not to throw from one trunk, and not just one minute, but to place the planes in a circle, and shift the ammunition. Preparing an attack with forces from five people, with several fairly powerful barrels, and a couple of boxes of ammunition ... i.e. either a caches in position, or transport. And all this in a radius of up to ten km (if it is with a spotter, with all the ensuing consequences in the case of a signal bearing), or in the line of sight, on an almost flat glade, which is grazed by military police officers who went through the Chechen wars.
        Attention, a question. Which special forces and from which country is it capable of? In what condition should the facility be protected?
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 4 January 2018 09: 44
          0
          One successful mortar hit in an ammunition depot, and then ammunition from it destroys everything around
          1. Spez
            Spez 4 January 2018 10: 15
            +9
            And of course, this warehouse is located directly on the site. Imagine a hill of bombs, missiles, and other ammunition, for the month of operation of such a base as Khmeimim? If this explodes, then not seven will be blown apart, and from the base there will be a small excavation pit for development, such as Moscow City. But according to reports, the planes are already working the fourth day after the "attack" on the positions of the barmalei. Something doesn’t fit here, don’t you notice ?! As an indirect confirmation of the fake nature of the message, Riafan and Anna-News have no information on this incident. There is a Mi-24, but silence about the base. Why would you ?!
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 5 January 2018 12: 35
              0
              It seems that there can be no underground storage, and part of it is taken out for current needs and stored at the site.
              And so the Defense Ministry has already confirmed the shelling and two corpses, but so far they are freezing on airplanes.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 4 January 2018 10: 26
          +4
          You already answered a question. Beards only hands, head behind a puddle, if it's not a fake. But expect this and prepare for it. And shelters for equipment and ammunition need to be built, once there for a long time. And people, and technology, and prestige must be protected.
          I think that there was a raid, but not with such losses. If so, as the bourgeois Kommers reported, then this is a shame and shame then.
          1. Spez
            Spez 4 January 2018 10: 33
            +2
            Quote: NordUral
            You already answered a question.

            My question implied a negative answer. Ours could not do this against their own. Israel could technically. United States ... You are sorry, but I doubt very much that the level is not the same. South Koreans are not in Syria right now. The Chinese are politically not at all profitable, even though their special forces seem to be in Syria already.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 4 January 2018 11: 20
              +3
              I looked at the pictures of the base from the ISS, there are no photos of the burned boards, especially such as the An-74 it would be hard not to notice. Although part of the parking lot has traces of fire on the trail from the fire, but this is most likely. old. The planes are intact. Probably an attempt to fire was, but such losses.
              And our MO must promptly respond to fakes and real situations. It is a shame to sit out in the bushes.
              1. Spez
                Spez 4 January 2018 11: 25
                +1
                what resource did you look at, you won’t throw off the link?
      3. dr.star75
        dr.star75 4 January 2018 09: 46
        +2
        Good afternoon! As far as I remember, 2 years ago you expected such a situation, wrote that the planes were open. They threw you with slippers, motivating that the barmalei would not be allowed to the base for a cannon shot. It seems, unfortunately, you were right. hi
    2. 210ox
      210ox 4 January 2018 08: 21
      +2
      That's it. it. To whom it is supposed to not moo or calve. Holidays might be celebrated with might and main.
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Yesterday I read this at Saponkov. Prior to publication in the Commersant. But to be honest, I don’t know what to say before any reaction from MORF. All the same, the information is sharp enough, the press service should at least refute it.
  3. Samaritan
    Samaritan 4 January 2018 07: 41
    +6
    They arrived ... They sent troops ... and this will continue for a long time ... no words ...
    Earth rest in peace ...
    1. zyzx
      zyzx 4 January 2018 08: 24
      +8
      You won’t believe there is such a military profession for which death on the battlefield is as natural as from a stroke.
      1. verner1967
        verner1967 4 January 2018 14: 01
        0
        Quote: zyzx
        there is such a military profession for which death on the battlefield is as natural as a stroke.

        and in your opinion they all just dream of dying of a stroke soon
    2. 210ox
      210ox 4 January 2018 08: 31
      +3
      We’ll wait until the official statement. They probably haven’t woken up in the Moscow Region yet.
      Quote: Samaritan
      They arrived ... They sent troops ... and this will continue for a long time ... no words ...
      Earth rest in peace ...
      1. 97110
        97110 4 January 2018 17: 54
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        Or they don’t know what to say.

        Or they know, but not yet signed. The order on the organization of office work since 1965 (?) Was reissued already? Is 2018 already here?
  4. Odysseus
    Odysseus 4 January 2018 07: 45
    10
    Let's hope that Kommersant is lying, wait for the appearance of any reliable information.
    However, after the declaration of victory over ISIS and the withdrawal of troops from Syria (in my opinion premature), the increased activity of the militants, with the aim of inflicting the greatest possible losses on the "departed", was quite predictable.
  5. milling machine
    milling machine 4 January 2018 07: 45
    20
    I recall that about a year and a half ago, our Moscow Region denied the destruction of helicopters at some base in Syria. For almost a week they denied until someone published satellite images.
    What am I doing? And there’s no point in waiting for any comments from the Moscow Region.
    1. Genry
      Genry 4 January 2018 08: 05
      +2
      What base? Or are there so many of them that you forgot?
      1. milling machine
        milling machine 4 January 2018 08: 13
        16
        Quote: Genry
        What base? Or are there so many of them that you forgot?

        Airbase near the city of Tias, 4-5 turntables and trucks burned down. Or we don’t want to remember such news?
        Even when our Mi 35 was shot down, the MO claimed that it was a Syrian Mi 24.
        In general, I have less confidence in our MO than a businessman.
        1. Genry
          Genry 4 January 2018 08: 44
          +9
          Quote: frezer
          Airbase near the city of Tias, 4-5 turntables and trucks burned down. Or we don’t want to remember such news?

          Quote: frezer

          In general, I have less confidence in our MO than a businessman.

          Where MO Russia gave the wrong information? Moreover, in Tias it was possible to take repeated pictures.
      2. sabotage
        sabotage 4 January 2018 08: 15
        +7
        T-4 Tiyas. May 2016.
        1. Shukhov
          Shukhov 4 January 2018 09: 57
          +9
          Well, how much can you post this fake! Why are you spreading this misinformation! For a long time already everyone was sorted out to whom it was interesting!
          1. Shukhov
            Shukhov 4 January 2018 10: 21
            +2
            Here's a little bit on the topic of T4 airbase (Tiyas) https://nkfedor.livejournal.com/339113.html
      3. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 4 January 2018 08: 18
        +6
        Quote: Genry
        What base? Or are there so many of them that you forgot?

        At Tiyas Air Base, it was.
    2. katana
      katana 4 January 2018 08: 22
      +5
      Quote: frezer
      I recall that about a year and a half ago, our Moscow Region denied the destruction of helicopters at some base in Syria. For almost a week they denied until someone published satellite images.
      What am I doing? And there’s no point in waiting for any comments from the Moscow Region.

      That's it - who wants to admit it.
    3. Muvka
      Muvka 4 January 2018 09: 00
      +3
      And how do you understand that these are our helicopters? Can I find out?
      1. just exp
        just exp 4 January 2018 09: 12
        +4
        how did he even understand that this is not a fake? I remember back in comments commented on this nonsense.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 4 January 2018 09: 13
          +3
          I also remember that all this was nonsense.
    4. just exp
      just exp 4 January 2018 09: 11
      +1
      and now ------ how are things with these pictures now? Any evidence about that base appeared?
      or so, threw the fake into the network and forgot?
  6. ViktorKarelin
    ViktorKarelin 4 January 2018 07: 46
    17
    If this is true, then I am shocked about guarding the base. The maximum range of modern mortars is up to 10 km. Like in! Liberated! Syria militants were able to get so close to the base.
    I have also always been struck by reports of shelling of the suburbs of Damascus. Already around the capital in the first place they had to clean everything.
    1. anjey
      anjey 4 January 2018 08: 07
      17
      the Yankees and Israel have a well-trained gangster underground there, the so-called opposition, civilians on civilian cars and weapons are not measured in different caches and intelligence from Amer’s hands and precise aiming at the target, and no one regrets finances for this vile war against Syria and Russia, all the more ...
      1. Strips
        Strips 4 January 2018 08: 11
        +8
        Quote: anjey
        the Yankees and Israel have a well-trained gangster underground



        Nothing to blame on the mirror ...
        1. PN
          PN 4 January 2018 08: 21
          +2
          True eyes hurts?
          1. Strips
            Strips 4 January 2018 08: 26
            +4
            Quote: PN
            True eyes hurts?


            The fantasies of some comrades are pricked.
        2. anjey
          anjey 4 January 2018 13: 07
          +2
          I mean, a priori, the time of major military operations has passed, the time has come for reconnaissance and counterintelligence and specialists of the internal security services ...
        3. anjey
          anjey 4 January 2018 13: 08
          +2
          this is not a mirror, this is a diabolical sum with dough ....
      2. Lex.
        Lex. 4 January 2018 08: 25
        +3
        Actually, the war is being funded by Qatar, and shelling is constantly taking place in Iceland and this is also a NATO country, so you can say that you are involved in paying taxes there wink
        1. anjey
          anjey 4 January 2018 13: 13
          +2
          Senya, don’t make humpbacked ones, all the more, don’t bring all your shit to one Qatar, we all read fairy tales in our childhood without you, and about the flag it’s a smartphone glitch, and Russia will still give pepper to many of its enemies ....
    2. karish
      karish 4 January 2018 08: 32
      +3
      Quote: ViktorKarelin
      If this is true, then I am shocked about guarding the base. The maximum range of modern mortars is up to 10 km. Like in! Liberated! Syria militants were able to get so close to the base.
      I have also always been struck by reports of shelling of the suburbs of Damascus. Already around the capital in the first place they had to clean everything.

      actually (if it really happened)
      I would consider such an option.
      it has never been attacked during the entire existence of the base, although the first time that ISIS was located it was much closer and had much more opportunities.
      Why did this happen right now? What earlier did the broads regret the VKS and were waiting for the declaration of victory MOSCOW? Of course, but no
      My opinion -
      In light of the slippage, or rather the stalemate, both in negotiations and in general in Syria, Russia is promoting the initiative to gradually transfer power from Assad to moderate Sunni leaders (which is absolutely logical) - who does not suit this in the first place? Assad and Iran, who is involved in guarding the base in tactical depth?
      Assad and Iranian police.
      I think (if this really was the case) - this is a clear warning - either change your position or we will several times recall in whose hands the security of the bases and their fate are.
      1. ViktorKarelin
        ViktorKarelin 4 January 2018 08: 44
        +5
        One can offer a lot of options. Current, many will be on the verge of delirium.
        "Russia is promoting an initiative to gradually transfer power from Assad to moderate Sunni leaders" - where does this infa or even speculation come from? Or the task of Israel to quarrel Assad and Russia ?! To me, the option of saboteurs from a neighboring state and from American partners seems more plausible. Shit on the Russians, after declaring victory - yes this is for hello !!! how many such historical examples !!!!
        1. karish
          karish 4 January 2018 08: 52
          +1
          Quote: ViktorKarelin
          One can offer a lot of options. Current, many will be on the verge of delirium.
          "Russia is promoting an initiative to gradually transfer power from Assad to moderate Sunni leaders" - where does this infa or even speculation come from? Or the task of Israel to quarrel Assad and Russia ?! To me, the option of saboteurs from a neighboring state and from American partners seems more plausible. Shit on the Russians, after declaring victory - yes this is for hello !!! how many such historical examples !!!!

          The Russian Foreign Ministry is not a crowd of lessons, but perfectly understands the realities and the fact that Russia does not cling to Assad has been stated more than once.
          Russia is well aware that it is not realistic to maintain the territorial integrity of Syria with Assad, and the guerrilla war will never end with the Iranian militias and the interests of Iran and Russia come into concrete contradictions in the vision of Syria's future.
          In my understanding, this is one of the possible results of the exacerbation of these contradictions
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 4 January 2018 10: 48
            +3
            Quote: karish
            In Russia, they understand perfectly well that with Assad, it is impossible to maintain the territorial integrity of Syria

            Really?
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 4 January 2018 14: 19
              0
              It’s very interesting, but with whom then is it really theirs?
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 4 January 2018 15: 19
                +2
                Quote: alexmach
                in theirs really

                In their opinion, this is not necessary.
          2. anjey
            anjey 4 January 2018 13: 50
            +3
            Quote: karish
            and the interests of Iran and Russia come into concrete contradictions in the vision of the future of Syria.
            is it with whom? from the United States and Israel, and not how much have you taken over the last half century, it’s time to divide old galoshes, you have cracks and you are already drowning in the modern world, Russia will spill you out and save many more if it is firm and consistent ....
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 4 January 2018 12: 59
        +3
        Karish, do you really think that only oaks grow in our General Staff?
    3. krops777
      krops777 4 January 2018 08: 49
      0
      If this is true, then I am shocked about guarding the base. The maximum range of modern mortars is up to 10 km. Like in! Liberated! Syria militants were able to get so close to the base.


      Let’s not succumb to ephemeral reasoning, we will wait for official announcements, if there was, we won’t be able to hide, if Israeli inhabitants on VO shed light, they have more information.
    4. alexmach
      alexmach 4 January 2018 14: 13
      0
      The terrorists somehow carried a mortar and a couple of mines, at least on the donkey pretending to be peasants, plus December 31 all the same.

      I have also always been struck by reports of shelling of the suburbs of Damascus. Already around the capital in the first place they had to clean everything.

      So actually in their suburbs there is also a den - a gray zone controlled either by moderate opposition or by whom.
  7. Spez
    Spez 4 January 2018 07: 50
    +1
    How is that?! It does not fit in the head. How can this even be?
    1. Idunavs
      Idunavs 4 January 2018 08: 32
      +4
      This is the result of the fact that two-thirds of the marines were removed from Syria and taken out of Syria.
      1. Spez
        Spez 4 January 2018 10: 43
        +2
        Marines in their tasks are still attack aircraft. As the most combat-ready and trained units. sharpened to capture and hold the bridgehead, can serve as a base guard. But the outer and distant cordons are not held by marines, but, as I wrote above, the military police. And judging by the fact that they are part of the police contingent in Syria, it is doubtful that sabotage groups with artillery could appear in their area of ​​responsibility. This is what is visible on the surface, based on existing information. as it really is, it will become clear in the coming days, or even hours.
        1. Idunavs
          Idunavs 4 January 2018 11: 09
          +1
          My acquaintance marine from Sevastopol said that they patrolled within a radius of 30 km from Khmeimim.
          1. Spez
            Spez 4 January 2018 11: 21
            +1
            This is also possible. It is difficult to judge the real situation sitting at the computer. In the commentary, I expressed only one of the options.
      2. Spez
        Spez 4 January 2018 10: 56
        +1
        But no ... All the same they spoiled the mortars ...
  8. Strips
    Strips 4 January 2018 07: 50
    17
    I do not think that the Moscow Region recognizes that this would be an incredible shame for Russia. Especially after claims of victory over ISIS, especially before the election.

    If none of the foreign companies publishes satellite images, then one should not expect such an event by the recognition of the Ministry of Defense.

    So either there will be snapshots of confirmations, or it will not be clear whether the case was or not.

    Russia is in no hurry to acknowledge its mistakes and losses.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 4 January 2018 08: 00
      +5
      If our satellite recorded and the incident was, I think the pictures will be.
      1. katana
        katana 4 January 2018 08: 38
        +2
        Quote: Shahno
        If our satellite recorded and the incident was, I think the pictures will be.

        It’s unlikely - your Prime Minister is almost kissing Putin on the gums! wassat
        1. Professor
          Professor 4 January 2018 09: 32
          +3
          Quote: katana
          Quote: Shahno
          If our satellite recorded and the incident was, I think the pictures will be.

          It’s unlikely - your Prime Minister is almost kissing Putin on the gums! wassat

          So the satellite is not state. He Bibi does not obey.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 4 January 2018 13: 04
        +4
        Shahno
        If our satellite recorded and the incident was, I think the pictures will be.

        Shahno, you already tortured with your companion! Once again, remember him, knock nafig!
      3. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 4 January 2018 18: 27
        +1
        I read the western press. There are no pictures, only blah, blah ....
    2. seal78
      seal78 4 January 2018 09: 35
      0
      Yes, if there are pictures, they will be posted in any way. Will the mattress miss this opportunity? And it does not depend on what the MO says or does. Or do you think that the RF Ministry of Defense can make the mattress silent? Well, then why should we fight with them, if we already command them?
    3. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 4 January 2018 10: 34
      +2
      Yes, with the reports about the Victory clearly hurried! The main credo of the authorities of the Russian Federation is public relations and shows, hence the legs grow.
    4. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 4 January 2018 17: 22
      +1
      Quote: Tiras
      I do not think that the Moscow Region recognizes that this would be an incredible shame for Russia. Especially after claims of victory over ISIS, especially before the election.

      If none of the foreign companies publishes satellite images, then one should not expect such an event by the recognition of the Ministry of Defense.

      So either there will be snapshots of confirmations, or it will not be clear whether the case was or not.

      Russia is in no hurry to acknowledge its mistakes and losses.

      so it’s not only the igilas hanging out there ... you can’t even understand the meaning of what Uncle Vova said !!! the igil was broken and her attempts to build a crazy state owl failed !!! most of the igilists were destroyed and therefore left a small part of our military contingent, which will further help destroy the remaining small part of the igilists ... and after the defeat of the igil, they will now crush nusra and other evil spirits, mowing down under normal people !!!
  9. svp67
    svp67 4 January 2018 07: 53
    +6
    The publication notes that if the data sources are correct, this incident can be considered one of the most serious incidents during the military air operation of Russia in Syria.
    So far, the keywords in this post: "if the source data is correct"
  10. Pax tecum
    Pax tecum 4 January 2018 07: 55
    16
    Sorry, that’s not quite the topic (or maybe vice versa). Well, what is this ?! It is very strange to see that here and now, the Military Review website advertises the services of a private Alfa Bank (if anyone does not know, then it is Ukrainian). On the smartphone screen, this is very clearly visible, it is a big obstacle to viewing content.
    Maybe the site administration is not aware (which is very doubtful) that this bank supported American anti-Russian sanctions and refused to service the accounts of the Russian military-industrial complex.

    Oleg Sysuev, a spokesman for Alfa Bank (one of Russia's largest private banks), said the bank would no longer service the accounts of Russian defense industrial companies. He stated this in an interview with Echo of Moscow reporters.
    In terms of Sysuyev, we are talking about "maximum risk reduction": the bank seeks to avoid punishment from the United States, because a significant part of Russian defense industry companies is under sanctions by the United States.
    The implications for defense companies are not yet obvious: Alfa-Bank conducted only the servicing of accounts, and the companies were financed from the federal budget.

    The sudden courage of Alfa Bank may be due to the company's intention to start a joint venture with the German concern BASF, according to sources on the Web. However, work with “sanctioned” Russian companies may impede this project, therefore the bank “reduces risks”.
    1. kebeskin
      kebeskin 4 January 2018 08: 03
      +3
      This is contextual advertising. For example, I do not have an alpha bank advertisement here. But in general, money, as you know, does not smell. And whatever our desire, what and how with whom to lead is decided by the bank management itself. And not only eio concerns this bank. And to force everyone to suddenly suddenly refuse the services of this bank is utopia. These are all private shops and they have their own bribe price.
    2. svp67
      svp67 4 January 2018 08: 13
      +4
      Quote: Pax tecum
      the Military Review website advertises the services of a private Alfa Bank (if anyone does not know, then it is Ukrainian).

      Listen and so what? This bank pays to our budget, and for advertising our company, but whether or not to use its services is your decision. Personally yours and no one will force you to do this.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 4 January 2018 13: 15
        +3
        Sergei, did not know that companies appeared in the Russian Federation ... There is an LLC, an OJSC ... Maybe "but for the advertising of our campaign" ... wink
    3. BLOND
      BLOND 4 January 2018 08: 34
      +4
      Quote: Pax tecum
      Sorry, that’s not quite the topic (or maybe vice versa).

      We have not yet verified the info from the Merchant once and immediately to ourselves at VO ...
      We still have a lot of Rains Eh and all sorts of promatrass transponders
      1. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 4 January 2018 09: 17
        +4
        Here is the verified information. Will it fit?
        The State Duma will consider a draft parliamentary request to Russia's Prosecutor General Yury Chaika, FSB Director Alexander Bortnikov and Chairman of the Investigative Committee Alexander Bastrykin in connection with reports of possible involvement of Alfa Bank structures in financing the Ukrainian security forces involved in the conflict in the Donbas at a plenary meeting on November 9. This was reported to reporters on Monday, November 7, Andrei Isaev, the first deputy head of the United Russia faction, reports TASS.

        According to Isaev, the parliamentary inquiry was initiated by his fellow colleague, member of the State Duma Committee on Budget and Taxes Yevgeny Fedorov. “He [request] is supported by the faction,” the deputy added.

        Referring to messages on the Internet, Fedorov asked to verify the fact that Ukrainian servicemen receive their salaries through branches of the Ukrainian Alfa Bank, Isaev explained.

        Read more at RBC:
        https://www.rbc.ru/politics/07/11/2016/58208b639a
        79476f3a4937ed
    4. katana
      katana 4 January 2018 08: 40
      +1
      Quote: Pax tecum
      Sorry, that’s not quite the topic (or maybe vice versa). Well, what is this ?! It is very strange to see that here and now, the Military Review website advertises the services of a private Alfa Bank (if anyone does not know, then it is Ukrainian). On the smartphone screen, this is very clearly visible, it is a big obstacle to viewing content.
      Maybe the site administration is not aware (which is very doubtful) that this bank supported American anti-Russian sanctions and refused to service the accounts of the Russian military-industrial complex.

      Oleg Sysuev, a spokesman for Alfa Bank (one of Russia's largest private banks), said the bank would no longer service the accounts of Russian defense industrial companies. He stated this in an interview with Echo of Moscow reporters.
      In terms of Sysuyev, we are talking about "maximum risk reduction": the bank seeks to avoid punishment from the United States, because a significant part of Russian defense industry companies is under sanctions by the United States.
      The implications for defense companies are not yet obvious: Alfa-Bank conducted only the servicing of accounts, and the companies were financed from the federal budget.

      The sudden courage of Alfa Bank may be due to the company's intention to start a joint venture with the German concern BASF, according to sources on the Web. However, work with “sanctioned” Russian companies may impede this project, therefore the bank “reduces risks”.

      Well, the site also needs money. And to carry your money to this bank or not is your personal business.
      1. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 4 January 2018 09: 24
        +5
        Well yes. Well yes. War is war, but "money doesn't smell" ...
        It's a shame for the Russian world and the Donbass, and not for the owners of the Jewish oligarch bank Friedman and Khan, and a hedgehog with them.
        The whole essence of Russian sovereign capitalism (and Kremlin politics) is that.
        Some kind of cynicism!
      2. internatio
        internatio 5 January 2018 11: 29
        0
        No, Katana, you are wrong. All commercial banks are ticks on the body of the people and economy of the country. And if so they raise the question - we will not service the defense industry, then they made a very loud statement. They ranked themselves as "foreign agents"!
    5. Fayth
      Fayth 4 January 2018 08: 43
      14
      In fairness, it is worth noting that this bank is purely Jewish and serves the Hasidic mafia, among other things, a percentage is charged for servicing the Moscow region’s accounts, so I don’t see any crime if this Khazar bank ceases to benefit from the military budget. Out of the guise of this statement, it would be a great observer to expel this office from Russia at all, but these are my cotton fantasies.
    6. ando_bor
      ando_bor 4 January 2018 10: 12
      +1
      Quote: Pax tecum
      It is very strange to see that here and now, the Military Review website advertises the services of a private Alfa Bank (if anyone does not know, then it is Ukrainian). On the smartphone screen, this is very clearly visible, it is a big obstacle to viewing content.

      Nothing strange is an American site for Russian patriots.
  11. kebeskin
    kebeskin 4 January 2018 07: 57
    +1
    So we crap. Of course, the militants will be destroyed. But ours will be something to do to work on the bugs.
    1. seal78
      seal78 4 January 2018 09: 31
      +4
      Who are you?
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 4 January 2018 11: 30
      +3
      Quote: kebeskin
      So we crap.

      Not us, but you. You do not need to lay out all your personal actions
    3. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 4 January 2018 17: 26
      +2
      Quote: kebeskin
      So we crap. Of course, the militants will be destroyed. But ours will be something to do to work on the bugs.

      What date are you on a Syrian business trip ????
  12. Shahno
    Shahno 4 January 2018 07: 57
    +5
    Yes, if so, this is serious. But I think you don’t need to sprinkle ash on your head. Even Kipat Barzel, who was imprisoned for fighting mortar fire, destroys two of three ammunition of this kind. But what was let so close, this signal is not good.
    .
    1. seal78
      seal78 4 January 2018 09: 28
      0
      The key word is if.
  13. mag nit
    mag nit 4 January 2018 07: 57
    +4
    Victory over ISIS divided? Dizziness from success.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 4 January 2018 17: 27
      +3
      you do not know that there besides igilashki there are a couple of dozens of "moderate" terrorists ???
  14. Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 January 2018 08: 06
    +6
    Let's hope that Kommersant is lying,
    That's how everyone has been hoping for 17 years. But the question is, if everyone was defeated and it was time for the troops to withdraw, then who fired? Maybe Bulk?
    1. allaykbar
      allaykbar 4 January 2018 13: 24
      +3
      Are you paid for such comments or are they from the heart?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 4 January 2018 14: 05
        +2
        from the heart?
        And what do you think? Yeltsin Center, kolyizurengoy, Olympics without Russia. The new year has just begun, but the decree on raising taxes has already begun.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 15: 45
          +6
          Quote: Gardamir
          ... a decree on raising taxes ...

          Which Gardamir?
          Which of the “raised” taxes concerns you personally (nothing exactly concerns me)?
          Keep on sketching? Well, go on, go on laughing
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 13: 52
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      That's how everyone has been hoping for 17 years

      ... and Kommersant is still lying ... And you, too, of that ... distort reality yes
      Here, for example:
      Quote: Gardamir
      ... if everyone was defeated ...

      Who, besides you, said that all won? That's right ... no one spoke.
      Quote: Gardamir
      Maybe Bulk?

      Nah ... Here comes Grudinin - restore order ... yes, Gardamir? wink
      1. allaykbar
        allaykbar 4 January 2018 14: 14
        +3
        Gardamir seems to work out his patience and such news as balm for the wound, because you can hook the Kremlin

        Vile of course. A strange forum member, although there is a whole cohort of them
        1. ando_bor
          ando_bor 4 January 2018 16: 08
          +1
          Quote: allaykbar
          A strange forum member, although there is a whole cohort of them

          The information war, an attack on Russia on all fronts is underway.
  15. eugraphus
    eugraphus 4 January 2018 08: 07
    +4
    Something relaxed before the new year. The authorities said that everything is a victory!
  16. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 4 January 2018 08: 07
    +1
    Very similar to the Bagram of the 80s - the spirits were defeated, but the shelling intensified ...
    1. seal78
      seal78 4 January 2018 09: 27
      +3
      Well, the United States, and then and now, crap to us.
  17. Million
    Million 4 January 2018 08: 07
    13
    Bullshit! Putin said he defeated everyone!
    1. katana
      katana 4 January 2018 08: 46
      +2
      Quote: Million
      Bullshit! Putin said he defeated everyone!

      Well, do not make fun of it - on the site all adults and everyone understands that statements of the heads of state such wars as in Syria or the type of Afghanistan do not end with statements alone. There is no one to accept the act of unconditional surrender there !!
      1. Million
        Million 4 January 2018 08: 58
        +5
        Then there was no need to loudly declare victory over the igil in Syria.
        1. eugraphus
          eugraphus 5 January 2018 02: 26
          0
          You can declare anything, you can’t relax. And the statement that after the shelling strengthened the security of the base is very characteristic. And what did you guys do after, and not as a warning.
    2. just exp
      just exp 4 January 2018 09: 14
      +3
      you are lying, Mr. American, Putin did not say that everyone was defeated, they talked about igil, but they didn’t say anything like that about annusra.
      1. Million
        Million 4 January 2018 09: 22
        +7
        But does it matter to you, which organization’s terrorists destroyed our 7 expensive aircraft? Wasn’t it too early to relax, claiming victory? We collect a penny on sick children on TV for a penny, but then we lost billions due to stupidity and carelessness!
        If true, of course ...
        1. just exp
          just exp 4 January 2018 18: 11
          0
          if ........
  18. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 4 January 2018 08: 08
    16
    And where were the vaunted “Shells” that supposedly mortar mines in flight freely destroy? And something very precisely, the mines fall at the headquarters with the general, now in the warehouse with ammunition and on planes ..... winked And where are all these "alpha", "beta", "gamma" and other super-duper "specialists" who need to deal with barmaleys and their sponsors? And then something their Americans barmaley freely move back and forth and at the same time brazenly remind that any step of the Assad or Russian soldiers will be considered a "provocation" and will entail "grave consequences" .... Something is clearly "out of order Kingdom of Denmark "..... Lose so many planes in one day .... so much money flew away nowhere .... sad
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 4 January 2018 09: 22
      +5
      So you tell me, because you write under the American flag, you know everything, understand everything. For example, tell us about the successes of the Yankees in Afghanistan, they sit there many times longer than ours, which means there should be more successes at times. And there, only two thousand Americans died and no particular successes were seen.
    2. seal78
      seal78 4 January 2018 09: 26
      +1
      Mattresses as usual - everything is measured in money.
    3. Colleague
      Colleague 4 January 2018 09: 34
      +1
      Well, right so right away, there was a duck and hello
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 4 January 2018 13: 26
      +3
      That's why you are the Amer’s Cat Marquis, and not the Russian Cat Bayun!
  19. cannabis
    cannabis 4 January 2018 08: 08
    +6
    The war, as a contactor, has only two positions - "on." and off. What is in Afghanistan, what is in Chechnya, what is not fulfilled in Syria, the basic principles of warfare. "Where the army - there is no population. Where the army and the population - there is a guerrilla war." Counterintelligence can somehow cope with saboteurs, but no one and the partisans never won. Gunners can accurately say how many 120 mm mines can be "hung" on the trajectory until the first mine breaks. And after that, throwing a mortar, calmly leave on his Toyota along a dusty rocky road.
    1. cannabis
      cannabis 4 January 2018 08: 42
      +1
      It remains to wait for the appearance of portable anti-aircraft systems in Assad's opponents.
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 4 January 2018 17: 31
      +2
      Quote: cunning
      The war, as a contactor, has only two positions - "on." and off. What is in Afghanistan, what is in Chechnya, what is not fulfilled in Syria, the basic principles of warfare. "Where the army - there is no population. Where the army and the population - there is a guerrilla war." Counterintelligence can somehow cope with saboteurs, but no one and the partisans never won. Gunners can accurately say how many 120 mm mines can be "hung" on the trajectory until the first mine breaks. And after that, throwing a mortar, calmly leave on his Toyota along a dusty rocky road.

      you confuse the concept of terrorists and partisans !! negative negative with a sound look at everything that happens in Syria, the partisans will go to destroy the Americans and their henchmen !!! request request request
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 4 January 2018 17: 43
        0
        Did you find the word "terrorists" in my text? Show me where, I want to see too!
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 4 January 2018 18: 10
          +2
          Quote: cunning
          Did you find the word "terrorists" in my text? Show me where, I want to see too!

          like an adult, but you can’t grasp what you read !!! winked request request request our base was bombarded by terrorists, but not partisans !!!
      2. passerby5
        passerby5 5 January 2018 05: 46
        0
        you would have explained it to those who climb out of the holes at night and on our bullets or on Asadam))
  20. Fedorov
    Fedorov 4 January 2018 08: 10
    +5
    This is a "businessman".
    Smirnov Vadim, Roma Banshi - filter at least a few articles.
    There, as far as our people told me, it’s not close to creep on km 10. What are the mortar attacks?
    And then in the morning Kondraty may grab from such news.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 4 January 2018 08: 35
      0
      Fedorov, purely theoretically it can be assumed: the guys on the eve of the New Year relaxed and "swam". I just think that the mortar in this situation is not convenient, but a rocket
      1. Vard
        Vard 4 January 2018 08: 47
        0
        Fake is just designed for our national ... garbage all this ... and about the base ... and about the generals ...
  21. Aleksandr21
    Aleksandr21 4 January 2018 08: 10
    +4
    We’ll wait for an official comment from the Ministry of Defense, in general, I don’t remember Kommersant publish completely frank fakes, so I fully admit that information from two unnamed military-diplomatic sources may be true (no one wants to lose their job, and even less to go under the Criminal Code ), and if infa is still true then this is very sad. If the fake then the merchant has reached a new level, but why should they? the sensation of such a publication is definitely not worth it)
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 4 January 2018 13: 32
      +3
      Dear, Kommersant is not in court under oath to the truth, only the truth and nothing but the truth ... wink
  22. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 4 January 2018 08: 11
    +1
    One question .. why silence? None of the ter.organizations took responsibility (although about the explosion in the supermarket right away .. we..that we are!) ... it would be a huge victory for them .. a great advertisement to increase funding ... and there is no fire video based .
    1. sabotage
      sabotage 4 January 2018 08: 18
      +1
      What if this is greetings from Iranian or Turkish partners? They are self-sufficient, sponsors will not bring them money.
  23. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 4 January 2018 08: 15
    +8
    All this is strange: the shell shot, the helicopter crashed, three Syrian generals died (infa passed), now it is.
  24. mavrus
    mavrus 4 January 2018 08: 15
    +3
    Quote: Odyssey
    Let's hope that Kommersant is lying, wait for the appearance of any reliable information.
    However, after the declaration of victory over ISIS and the withdrawal of troops from Syria (in my opinion premature), the increased activity of the militants, with the aim of inflicting the greatest possible losses on the "departed", was quite predictable.

    And where is it said that this is ISIS, if there really was a fact of shelling the base ...
    And on the other hand, any "opposition" could shoot New Year’s fireworks at the base and bring this "fact" to their curators for a round sum.
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 4 January 2018 08: 28
      +2
      Quote: mavrus
      And where is it said that this is ISIS, if there really was a fact of shelling the base ...

      It’s definitely not ISIS, although ISIS has so far maintained strong bases there. But people will not care ISIS or not (especially since the difference between the “opposition” in Syria is small). The very fact of large losses after the statement about the fulfillment of tasks and the beginning troop withdrawal.
  25. From Germany
    From Germany 4 January 2018 08: 16
    12
    Surprising or naivete or inappropriate sarcasm of some commentators, they say how so?

    In Russia, the Second Chechen War ended long ago and the borders are fairly well guarded, and the FSB is working hard, and all the same, these nonhumans get and spoil weapons. And in Syria, the scumbags in Amer’s bases are hiding, instructing with them is carried out, the borders are full of holes, if there are any at all, then throwing a sabotage group is a small problem. And the Jews and Amers and the Saudis will supply the weapons and equipment of these bearded men. There will be no peace for a long time, since these three above-mentioned populations will try.
    1. Vard
      Vard 4 January 2018 08: 45
      +1
      Of course ... you women will soon go to the burqa ... because you think so ...
      1. From Germany
        From Germany 4 January 2018 10: 14
        +1
        Quote: Vard
        Of course ... you women will soon go to the burqa ... because you think so ...


        We think how? I did not quite understand the relationship.

        By the way: "The Russian Ministry of Defense called fake information about the destruction of seven aircraft at the Khmeimim airbase in Syria. The agency confirmed information about mortar shelling of the base, resulting in two soldiers killed. This happened on December 31."
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 4 January 2018 13: 36
          +3
          Dmitry, do not be offended. This is it about banning pork in the EU and white tents for women.
  26. thinker
    thinker 4 January 2018 08: 18
    +7
    We turn on the brain. Allegedly, SEVEN aircraft were destroyed on December 31, 2017, and apart from Kommersant, nobody knows about this.
    All THREE missiles at the base were instantly trumpeted in all the media. stop
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 4 January 2018 08: 27
      +3
      Quote: thinker
      We turn on the brain. Allegedly, SEVEN aircraft were destroyed on December 31, 2017, and apart from Kommersant, nobody knows about this.
      All THREE missiles at the base were instantly trumpeted in all the media. stop


      When the rockets were fired, 1 source also reported and the rest began to quote it and it turned out that in all the "media" + traces of the rockets in the air and the work of the Shell were recorded. Here is another situation, mortar shelling and such information, do you think this is not possible? it is possible to admit. And the fact that the sources are not named, do not forget about the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and the laws that have been adopted in this regard ..... therefore 50 to 50. Of course, there may be a fake, but Kommersant does not apply to Echo, Rain and similar media.
      1. thinker
        thinker 4 January 2018 09: 04
        +3
        And who does not allow to see the Arab media, for example Al-Masdar, there is silence about such a "rout"
        https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/category/syr
        ia /
  27. faiver
    faiver 4 January 2018 08: 19
    +2
    To be honest - in shock, well, so far there is little hope that a fake, BUT if this is true, then comrade Shoigu, to put it mildly, is not all right in his kingdom ...
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  28. Herculesic
    Herculesic 4 January 2018 08: 20
    +7
    Firstly, if this is an outright lie, then why does such information even get into the news feeds, and no one bears responsibility for it? Why do not they annul the license, do not close the channel or station? For an example, remember supposedly our “Echo” and “Rain”! Secondly, this is the worst, I’m afraid that it’s true, and we can only get satellite photos, or the authorities, to be courageous and tell the truth, no matter how bitter she was not!
    1. krops777
      krops777 4 January 2018 08: 39
      +3
      Firstly, if this is an outright lie, then why does such information even get into the news feeds, and no one bears responsibility for it? Why do not they annul the license, do not close the channel or station?

      Freedom of speech, what did you want? democracy.
    2. seal78
      seal78 4 January 2018 09: 20
      +2
      Because the state, unfortunately, does not control the media.
  29. Kail.kail
    Kail.kail 4 January 2018 08: 20
    0
    There are a lot of questions ....
    Even if the shelling was. Why didn’t the air defense work? Near the ships, the air defense didn’t work either? Or there were so many mines .... xs in my opinion, this is misinformation.
    1. faiver
      faiver 4 January 2018 08: 26
      10
      Do not tell me when the air defense began to work against mortars?
  30. cedar
    cedar 4 January 2018 08: 26
    +8
    Quote: ViktorKarelin
    If this is true, then I am shocked about guarding the base. The maximum range of modern mortars is up to 10 km. Like in! Liberated! Syria action films could get so close to the base.
    I have also always been struck by reports of shelling of the suburbs of Damascus. Already around the capital in the first place they had to clean everything.


    The enemy found slack. The reconnaissance and MTR of the enemy worked as they should. Let’s draw conclusions and go on ... It’s time to throw all the “fighters" out of the head. Us professionals are fighting there under information cover. Today we flew, tomorrow they will fly. In war, as in war. And the war on BV did not begin yesterday and will end tomorrow, but Armageddon will end it all.
    See the metaphysical root of wars in the BV, dear.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 4 January 2018 13: 50
      +2
      Eugene, I see. So far, everything is calm.
  31. Monarchist
    Monarchist 4 January 2018 08: 27
    +6
    Quote: katana
    Quote: newbie
    found someone to believe, “merchant” is still that merchant. how many times “b” fired a bullet, it turned out to be zilch.

    Beginner - remember !! Russians have a proverb: "There is no smoke without fire!"

    Here you are right: there is such a proverb, and they also say: “the Brihun will not live a day, so as not to lie”
  32. Vita vko
    Vita vko 4 January 2018 08: 27
    +6
    It’s interesting, but is there at least one specialist here who is at least a little familiar with the aerodrome defense systems? You can still assume the likelihood of firing missiles of the Grad type, all the same a large range of 20-30 km and there is little chance that a gang of terrorists will approach this distance. But mortar shelling from a range of 2-3 km, that is, actually from within the guarded perimeter - this is already something from the realm of fantasy! The next oddity is that the crash of the Mi-24 helicopter with the death of pilots and the so-called "mortar shelling" happened on the same day. One can say with a high degree of probability that the military-terrorist sources of Komersant simply gave the wish for the reality.
  33. Mighty Ka
    Mighty Ka 4 January 2018 08: 32
    +9
    If this is true, then the question to GDPutin, what the hell did you hasten to announce about the victory over the barmalei, that someone pulled you by the eggs to flee from Syria. There is such a saying: hurry people to make fun.
    1. karish
      karish 4 January 2018 08: 45
      +5
      Quote: Mighty- Ka
      If this is true, then the question to GDPutin, what the hell did you hasten to announce about the victory over the barmalei, that someone pulled you by the eggs to flee from Syria. There is such a saying: hurry people to make fun.

      After publication in Kommersantsesli and not only, MO. just bound to react. those. confirm or refute the information.
      If there is silence for more than a day, in my understanding this is nothing more than confirmation, it just pressks out the degree of damage and commentary options in the light of previous statements.
      Let's wait a day.
      1. Vard
        Vard 4 January 2018 09: 12
        +2
        No ... they just finally started to take over your experience of covering such stories ...
      2. seal78
        seal78 4 January 2018 09: 22
        +2
        Not to mattresses with Jews to bring claims to Putin.
      3. ghby
        ghby 4 January 2018 10: 13
        0
        Quote: karish
        After publication in Kommersantsesli and not only, MO. just bound to react. those. confirm or refute the information.
        If there is silence for more than a day, in my understanding this is nothing more than confirmation, it just pressks out the degree of damage and commentary options in the light of previous statements.
        Let's wait a day.

        We will wait until the holidays are over and civilian personnel will begin to work wassat
      4. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 4 January 2018 17: 48
        +1
        Quote: karish
        Quote: Mighty- Ka
        If this is true, then the question to GDPutin, what the hell did you hasten to announce about the victory over the barmalei, that someone pulled you by the eggs to flee from Syria. There is such a saying: hurry people to make fun.

        After publication in Kommersantsesli and not only, MO. just bound to react. those. confirm or refute the information.
        If there is silence for more than a day, in my understanding this is nothing more than confirmation, it just pressks out the degree of damage and commentary options in the light of previous statements.
        Let's wait a day.

        recourse recourse recourse ganapolsky, peledoginsya !!!
  34. Vard
    Vard 4 January 2018 08: 39
    +2
    The death of such a quantity of military equipment involves a very intensive shelling ... and howl there is not the first year ... there are some means of counter-battery fighting ... so it’s definitely a fake ...
  35. alkor
    alkor 4 January 2018 08: 44
    +2
    Without proofs, you can not even discuss the topic. If so, the Americans would have posted the satellite. Definitely, to spoil the soul harder. And local social networks instantly upload pictures even with smoke, but definitely upload them. If there is no and there will be no evidence - balabolstvo is unambiguous.
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 4 January 2018 10: 23
      +1
      Quote: alkor
      If there is no and there will be no evidence - balabolstvo is unambiguous.

      Not just balobolstvo - a powerful information attack - the mass media have already posted information.
  36. seal78
    seal78 4 January 2018 08: 46
    +1
    Aha. Kommersant is another source))
  37. Million
    Million 4 January 2018 08: 50
    +5
    If this is true, then the cost of 7 aircraft built on our money with you, who will reimburse?
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 4 January 2018 09: 29
      +4
      And so our money bothers you, so I would immediately say, you're my American. Even if people like you don’t have a striped flag next to their nickname, you will immediately recognize them by posts. Kindergarten, Americans are big dumb and angry children.
      1. Million
        Million 4 January 2018 09: 34
        +2
        Their stupid people are much worse than the evil Americans.
  38. Krasnyiy komissar
    Krasnyiy komissar 4 January 2018 08: 52
    +1
    This is the answer to those who speak of the uselessness of aircraft carriers. Guarding the perimeter of the air base can not protect it from mortars and MLRS - you need means of air defense facilities like the Iron Dome or the base must be protected by an insurmountable obstacle. If Russia had at least a couple of AUGs with aircraft carriers like the Storm, then there would be no problems with shelling.
    1. gig334
      gig334 4 January 2018 09: 25
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Firstly, if this is an outright lie, then why does such information even get into the news feeds, and no one bears responsibility for it? Why do not they annul the license, do not close the channel or station? For an example, remember supposedly our “Echo” and “Rain”! Secondly, this is the worst, I’m afraid that it’s true, and we can only get satellite photos, or the authorities, to be courageous and tell the truth, no matter how bitter she was not!


      If it were true. Western media would have published pictures of the base. Censorship that disconnected you from the Internet, or you can’t use the search engine?
    2. Grafova Irina
      Grafova Irina 4 January 2018 15: 42
      0
      Just then, the base itself would not be needed much
      1. Spez
        Spez 5 January 2018 06: 37
        +1
        I need it. Urgent delivery or evacuation of goods, as well as storage, maintenance of equipment, etc. can only be done using databases. More space and easier logistics.
  39. Prole
    Prole 4 January 2018 08: 52
    +3
    The militants are filming their "exploits" on video, moreover, with the cries of Alah-Akbar .... !!!
  40. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 4 January 2018 08: 54
    0
    what are the findings? censorship full tv is silent .....
  41. BLOND
    BLOND 4 January 2018 08: 59
    +9
    Military Review. Are we "rising" to the level of a businessman?
    Their news has been hanging for half a day and has overgrown with reposts of the same comrades
    Now, VO is in the same cohort, what’s the crisis with moderators? I think that I missed the "News" Cossack mishandled!
    Even in 2015, I was pushed into such "minuses" in a chat if I referred to the wrong source!
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 4 January 2018 10: 25
      +1
      Quote: BLOND
      Military Review. Are we "rising" to the level of a businessman?

      Military Review is an American resource for Russian patriots, and what level should it have?
      1. BLOND
        BLOND 4 January 2018 10: 29
        +1
        Quote: ando_bor
        Quote: BLOND
        Military Review. Are we "rising" to the level of a businessman?

        Military Review is an American resource for Russian patriots, and what level should it have?

        So either raise the level or lower the resource
        1. ando_bor
          ando_bor 4 January 2018 15: 41
          +2
          Quote: BLOND
          So either raise the level or lower the resource

          True patriots have long understood everything and fled from here,
          - I go so basically to track information war methods.
          1. BLOND
            BLOND 4 January 2018 16: 25
            0
            Quote: ando_bor
            Quote: BLOND
            So either raise the level or lower the resource

            True patriots have long understood everything and fled from here,
            - I go so basically to track information war methods.

            You know, this stuffing was planned and (according to feelings) was "trial, test" for something more important ...
            And the site has really changed a lot
  42. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 4 January 2018 09: 03
    +1
    Everything is controlled there at least within a radius of 10 km - drones, secrets and patrols.
    We are waiting for a comment from the MO.
  43. kaschey
    kaschey 4 January 2018 09: 04
    +1
    Quote: ul_vitalii
    All this is strange: the shell shot, the helicopter crashed, three Syrian generals died (infa passed), now it is.

    Stirlitz, flying on an official plane over the airfield, saw the destroyed GDP and a whole squadron of destroyed bombers, "Barmalei - thought Stirlitz."
    1. seal78
      seal78 4 January 2018 09: 24
      0
      Did you mean runway?
      1. kaschey
        kaschey 4 January 2018 12: 08
        0
        No, I meant Stirlitz.
  44. groks
    groks 4 January 2018 09: 08
    0
    Well, apparently, our bases are being squeezed out of Syria. MORF does not recognize the fact, but will continue to conclude.
  45. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 4 January 2018 09: 11
    +4
    Here is the only source. Reporter Roman Saponkov on VK:

    "Russian reporter Roman Saponkov yesterday wrote about the incident at Hmeimim at his Vk.com page:
    confirmed attack, 2 killed, several wounded. Equipment lost "
    No other evidence.
    1. Oleg7700
      Oleg7700 4 January 2018 12: 57
      0
      https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2018/0
      1/04/747067-boeviki-obstrelyali-rossiiskuyu-voenn
      uyu-bazu-v-sirii Already refer to their sources in the MO.
  46. Echo
    Echo 4 January 2018 09: 13
    +6
    The news is complete crap, who ever missed this pissed cartoon here? Where are the pictures of the destroyed planes? Where are the satellite images of the shelled air base that the Western media would have distributed in 10 minutes?
  47. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 January 2018 09: 14
    +5
    No data from anywhere else, except for the "non-watering" newspaper .. Well, when for such "news" the MO, for example, will be skinning the newspaper, through the court, of course am
  48. GeorgeSev85
    GeorgeSev85 4 January 2018 09: 15
    +7
    4 days have passed and not a single photo-video!?!?!?!
    Yes, the Western media would have already begun to orgasm from such news, but silence ... just silence from the barmalei.
    1. Tusk
      Tusk 4 January 2018 09: 25
      +3
      Quote: GeorgeSev85
      Yes, the Western media would have already begun to orgasm from such news, but silence ... just silence from the barmalei.

      Also, such an idea was ... There would have been such a noise and satellite imagery posted and the joy of Barmolei, etc. ... And this liberal newspaper has always been ..
  49. gig334
    gig334 4 January 2018 09: 19
    +4
    The businessman refers to anonymous sources, there are no photos of the Western media base from satellites, usually they immediately print it. There are no statements from terrorist groups from Syria, both here and in the West. Only the yellow Russophobian newspaper women howled about this news, picking up the news from a businessman. . Do you realize that if this turns out to be a fake, then many users will attribute you to the news media from a yellow source, and not to a serious publication and resource? Is a rating more expensive than honor?
  50. high
    high 4 January 2018 09: 22
    0
    Apparently, a new round of war is unfolding:
    On January 2, the Netherlands Air Force announced the deployment of aircraft to the Middle East to combat Isil.
    On January 2, the Minister of Defense of Syria Fahad Jasem Al-Freja was fired, apparently this is the result of the destruction of 7 Russian military aircraft, he did not defend