For what the West revenges Russia?

Over the past few years, the Russian public has managed to get used to the fact that the foreign press covers events in Russia through the prism of state policies of certain countries. It would seem that such a notion as an independent and objective press in the West simply got stuck and pretty worn out during its existence. Almost any article about Russia and Russian politics gave a certain engagement and a whole bunch of the most real conjectures and provocative judgments.


For what the West revenges Russia?


However, as practice shows, not every Western journalist and political observer is inclined to see in Russia the very notorious first-order enemy, about which the Republican Mitt Romney recently spoke out. Almost at the same time, some US and French political scientists decided to give an answer to why lately in the Western press a real hysteria has risen over the “Russian threat” and the return of Vladimir Putin to his post. At the same time, European experts on both sides of the ocean are thinking about a new round of Western Russophobia and, specifically, Putinophobia are quite consonant.

In the French edition of L'Humanite, Dr. Grenoble University University of Grenoble, wondering about the opposition of the elected Russian President to the Western public, says that the Western world in Putin wants to see the leader of the state-enemy of Western democracy and completely turns a blind eye to the real situation. Jean Zhironimo is sure that both French, and American, and other Western journalists are creating the image of Vladimir Putin as a tough authoritarian politician absolutely consciously. After all, to carry out the so-called ideological treatment of the population of the West today is very profitable. While the West itself is experiencing colossal economic and integration difficulties, it must convince its citizens that these difficulties cannot be compared with the “despotism” and the “obscurantism” that exists in Russia. They say that you will perceive Russia and Putin as we tell you, then together we will cope with the enemy raising his head.

Gironimo states that they are trying to expose Putin to a sort of demonic personality, because the West is simply not profitable to strengthen Russia. Such words of a French expert are perfectly illustrated by the opinions of journalists from a number of American publications. For example, the edition of The Chicago Tribune says that Russia definitely needs to be perceived as the number one enemy, since it interferes with the US democratic plans. A reader who is familiar with such materials will be confident that the Russian Federation is indeed sponsoring Iran to create nuclear weapons in underground laboratories. weapons, Russia supports the regime of Bashar al-Assad, which destroys civilians who count on outside help, Russia specifically increases the cost of military procurement in order to strike at the United States one day. Such publications, “revealing the demonic character” of Putin and Russia, form public opinion among those citizens of the United States, whom only the word “Russia” leads to a state of shock. Keeping people in constant fear of an external enemy is a great idea that makes it much easier to rule the people. The ideology, designed for housewives, extends to most of the US population and is ready to turn into a new cold war with Russia at the level of civil institutions.

Even more harsh words about the modern Western press and politics towards Russia are expressed by the American political analyst, an expert on the Russian Federation, Stephen Cohen. During a conference on acute issues of the new Cold War at Columbia University, Cohen said that today's attempts by the West to give Russia and Putin the image of their main enemies are common revenge on the part of those in power in the United States for failing to clean up completely. hands of Russia in 90-s.

Such words of Stephen Cohen in the United States have caused the widest resonance. As usual, they heard accusations that Cohen's words were engaged, and that he was working for the Kremlin. But this in no way embarrassed the political analyst, who said that these attacks are only a mosaic of great Western revenge against Russia and those who are trying to bring objective information to the West about what is happening in it (in Russia).

Stephen Cohen literally attacked those American journalists who say that on May 7, 2012, the chair of the President of the Russian Federation will be occupied by a dictator and a state criminal who suppresses the opposition. The American political analyst noted that he personally explains such views of the authors of publications in publications by the fact that these authors simply can’t or simply don’t want to realize that Russia has already passed the end of 80-x-beginning 90-x, when, in fact, it was huge American colony.

Cohen makes comparisons of Russian journalistic assessments of the 90 model in the USA and today's estimates. At the same time, he reminds the American journalist fraternity that she, for some reason, stubbornly did not notice the suppression of the opposition by the first President of Russia Boris Yeltsin and did not notice the falsification of the 1996 election results of the year, did not notice the orders issued by him to shoot the Government , did not notice the barbaric privatization conducted by Boris Nikolayevich’s entourage. In 90, no one in the West thought of calling President Yeltsin a dictator who sent troops into Chechnya, although he could solve the “Dudaev question” using completely different methods.

Cohen asks American politicians and journalists the question: why today, at the mere mention of Putin’s name, they become hysterical and ready to pour tons of dirt on the Russian leader, for whom more than 64,6% of votes cast their votes in the March elections. At the same time, Putin is trying to ensure international agreements, speaks about the readiness to go for rapprochement, conducts a whole range of political reforms in Russia, declares that Russia wants to cooperate with NATO. However, no one in the West can hear these words, since the self-intimidation of Vladimir Putin’s personality has reached its apogee. Cohen recalls that Putin’s personality does not give the United States peace of mind due to the fact that he, seeing how the West does not want to come closer to Russia, chooses a course towards integration with other countries and associations - BRICS, the Eurasian Union, the SCO.

Apparently, the words of Stephen Cohen and Jean Gironimo served as a serious injection for many American politicians and journalists, because no intelligible answers to their speeches have yet been followed, if not to talk about Cohen's financing of the Kremlin. And, as you know, silence is a sign of agreement. It turns out that Western sharks of the pen and leading politicians simply cannot find worthy excuses for the accusations of their own political scientists.
In this regard, it must be stated that today in the West there are people who did not fall under the influence of total Putinophobia, but are engaged in an objective analysis of the events taking place in Russia. However, these political scientists and journalists have to work in the harsh conditions of the imposed public confidence that Putin's Russia is the main enemy of the development of the West.
Summarizing the essence of the struggle of Cohen and Gironimo for the objectivity of public opinion of the West in relation to Russia, it is worth citing one eloquent historical example.

In 50 in the United States, one of the most popular senators was Republican Joseph McCarthy, who denounced communism as an ideology that could destroy the unshakable foundations of the United States. In any of his television and radio presentations, he uttered the words that literally all political spheres in the States are permeated by the Communists who work for the USSR. Spy mania in the USA due to the “denunciations” of McCarthy reached its peak by the middle of 50. Soviet spies were searched literally everywhere. Most Americans perceived the Soviet Union as a symbol of world demonism. But the work of McCarthy once caused a number of questions from one of the American journalists - Edward Marou. He opened the falsification of "spy" data from McCarthy, and announced on the air to the whole country that the Republican senator simply lies to the American people. The phrase Ed Marou “we cannot defend freedom abroad if we are not able to defend it at home” became a real slogan for those who spoke about the struggle for freedom and democracy in the 50s. After being exposed by a journalist, the career of Joseph McCarthy rolled toward sunset. The objectivity of a simple journalist turned out to be higher than attempts to seize public opinion on the part of a high-ranking official.

Hopefully, both Cohen and Gironimo will become for the modern West new Marows working exclusively for objective coverage of events. By the way, Russia will not interfere with their Marou too ...
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  1. Dmitriy69 April 11 2012 09: 08 New
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    It is good of course that not everyone in the west has jammed a cuckoo on Russophobia, only it hurts so few.
    1. esaul April 11 2012 09: 23 New
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      Quote: Dmitriy69
      It’s good, of course, that not everyone in the West has jammed a cuckoo on Russophobia

      Dmitry, welcome. You speak well, colleague, concisely and accurately. And thanks to Alexei for the article as allowed me to look at all this media bacchanalia from a different angle and see that common sense did not rest in the West and that not everyone was stupidly and indiscriminately ready to blame Rossiseh for world sins. Well, many of us have long known about the reasons - banal greed and gluttony. Well, for that you can draw any beautiful morality.
      1. Sergh
        Sergh April 11 2012 09: 30 New
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        Hi guys! Well, I'm just glad that they praise Putin like that, comrades, we are on the right track! You can safely go fishing tomorrow, three shinigahs in a case.
        1. Dmitriy69 April 11 2012 12: 54 New
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          Quote: Sergh
          You can safely go fishing tomorrow

          Only water in the spring is painfully cloudy. The United States specialists are great in this respect, they will stir up a pond, and drag a fish, only the noise is worth it.
      2. Tersky April 11 2012 09: 40 New
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        Valery, good afternoon! The Bacchanalia of the West in relation to Russia is needed not only because of greed, the reason lies in the rolling of the Western economy into the darkness of cockroach, so that in order to distract its people from far from bright prospects for the future, the image of Russia as a demon is sewn with white thread. Only here the miscalculation is that not everyone wants to look through the eyes of those in power in the West towards Russia.
        1. esaul April 11 2012 09: 58 New
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          Quote: Tersky
          the reason lies in the rolling economy of the West into the darkness of cockroach, so that in order to distract its people from far from bright prospects for the future, the image of Russia, a demon, is sewn with white thread.

          Good day, Victor! I agree, today I scraped in the internet, I had seen enough of this ... Somewhere they are trying to find positive shifts, somewhere completely decadent moods, but the general dynamics do not console and speaks of possible very difficult times for everyone. But the positive thing is that, practically the majority, recognizes that Russia has recently avoided the grave consequences of the past crisis and is in the most favorable position in the situation with the conflict situation in the Middle East.
        2. Ziksura April 11 2012 10: 52 New
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          Quote: Tersky
          The Bacchanalia of the West in relation to Russia is needed not only because of greed, the reason lies in the rolling economy of the West in the darkness of cockroach, so that in order to distract its people from far from bright prospects for the future, the image of Russia as a demon is sewn with white thread.

          It is for domestic consumption. After 08.08.08, Russia found itself in international isolation? We got it by the horns, made some noise and forgot, by and large. And why? Yes, no one needed by and large. I remember an interview with our diplomat at that time about how a Western functionary had just made a loud angry statement to reporters, immediately approached ours with words like: "Well, you, this, that, don’t pay too much attention to what I’ve just said . "
          Russophobia west sick thoroughly. Therefore, their policies will use this card always and everywhere. But the West is not the same, and we are not the same.
          1. olegyurjewitch April 11 2012 20: 33 New
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            Quote: Ziksura
            Russophobia West sick thoroughly

            However, even some of our publishing houses controlled by the opposition to Putin have not only the notes, the whole symphonic works, saturated with what is called “Russophobia” in relation to the Western media. sad
            1. Bear52 April 11 2012 22: 17 New
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              Wow !!!!! It's biting and pretty, comrade! drinks As they say today, respect and respect! angry
      3. vozn_ser
        vozn_ser April 11 2012 11: 49 New
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        The vast majority of Americans see Russia through the prism of their own media. And if the American media during the perestroika period were sympathetic towards the USSR and Gorbachev and even more towards Russia of the Yeltsin era, then a sharp deterioration in the image of Russia followed.
        Despite the good personal relations between Presidents Putin and Bush, new hotbeds of controversy arose between Russia and the United States. These centers are well-known: NATO aggression in Iraq, the advance of NATO forces to the borders of Russia, the creation of bases in the Czech Republic and Poland, the war in Georgia, a set of issues called “human rights”. All these points, poisoning Russian-American relations, left an imprint on the American press, and, accordingly, on the idea of ​​Russia of American citizens who are not so clear about what’s what. Most of all, Americans are afraid of the emergence of the nuclear powers of Iran and North Korea. But their fear is somewhat unaddressed. They believe that Russia can play a decisive role in ending this process. Russia, of course, has influence in North Korea and Iran, but not to such an extent. In the American media, this is presented in such a way that Russia “encourages” these countries, since it believes that their nuclear weapons will be directed to the United States. Americans are outraged and their attitude towards Russia is changing for the worse.
        There is no consensus on American society in Russia. Obama represents the interests of the most educated, creative, technologically advanced Americans. But the majority of the American population is the middle class, and it is strongly influenced by reactionary circles. The working class is extremely conservative in the USA. He voted first for Clinton and Bush. He is influenced by unions, and historically, American unions have always been anti-Soviet and anti-Russian.
        However, no matter how Russia behaves, it will not suit America. Even if she spreads a carpet in front of Uncle Sam and turns into US dominion. The stratification of long-term, ten-year, and even hundred-year-old suspicions and incorrect interpretations of the development of Russian history is so strong that even in this case it is impossible to please Washington. Yes, this is not necessary. The same is true of the image of the United States in Russia. Even when points of contact are outlined, strong (and not unfounded) suspicions about the United States arise in Russian society. Therefore, we need not worry about this, how can we arrange each other. We need to think about coexistence in normal mode. At least as the USA and China.
        1. Bear52 April 11 2012 22: 41 New
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          Bravo, friend! This is not a comment, but this article is cool, no worse than the main plus and respect drinks
      4. rexby63 April 11 2012 19: 30 New
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        Valery, good afternoon (or already evening). The article is really very good. It is written in an accessible language and with argumentation in full order. A plus
      5. fktrctqxbr
        fktrctqxbr April 22 2012 17: 56 New
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        If everything is done right, then the United States can be turned into North Karey - they will sit with huge stocks of weapons (and better if they are drawn into some kind of protracted military conflict like Vietnam), hungry stomachs, and a poor population.
        1. BorisBM
          BorisBM 21 May 2012 21: 52 New
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          I’m afraid that this is impossible. But they can do it with us easily. We don’t even have to drag us anywhere. It’s enough to agree with the Arabs, as it was already, and lower oil prices. And we will be hungry and poor. And no stabilization fund it will not help us.
    2. Dimitrxnumx
      Dimitrxnumx April 11 2012 09: 48 New
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      Despite everything, the amers are afraid of a strong Russia, a spiritual one. therefore, they are doing everything possible to be considered harsh, aggressive barbarians on horseback and with balalaika, which are alien to human values. For the sake of this, they go to various tricks, including trying to create among the countries of the former USSR a line of shakolyat countries that, on command, are yapping at us. NATO, too, was created with the same tasks. Under EBN, I got so sick that they put us on our knees, forcing us to follow their lead. Today, GDP is still trying to build a strong Russia, boldly giving bream to the stupid claims of amers. This can not but rejoice. Russia has always been strong, if not economically, then definitely in spirit. Throughout history, the Russians have always stopped the aggressors who conquered the world before, they broke, froze and died precisely because of the Russian spirit. Amer know this and therefore are trying to break our spirit and make the world finally unipolar, in fact, to capture it. But again they stumble upon us and can do nothing, apparently remember the words of Nevsky, "Whoever comes to us with a sword will die from him."
    3. sancho April 11 2012 09: 52 New
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      It’s good, of course, that not everyone in the West has jammed a cuckoo on Russophobia

      Do you think so, colleague?
      I think that things are really bad there with the cuckoo, and you should not rely so naively on the arguments and examples of just one case.
      Here are other examples:
      - after the war in Vietnam, when the US population felt the tangible costs, losses and futility of this action, they calmed down for several decades and went on to an economic (cold) war, this required less labor.
      - in the second half of the 80s in the USA, these “heads” realized that the economic war was on the wane, as Gorbach finished off the country of the Soviets, it became necessary to use the unspent reserves of "energy" somewhere. And, actually, why were billions of dollars pumped into the defense industry? Plus, an ever-growing shortage of energy resources.
      - Count for yourself all the military companies with direct "democratic" participation of the USA and where they were held! Many where, but not in Africa, because there is nothing to fuck. Ah, there’s no democracy there for sure!
      - Well, where else to get the perfect enemy? So that there is a “terrible” threatening the whole world, and that you have a good supply of energy resources? Is that China? Is it India? No! It's Russia! It is not for nothing that a whisper from the North American continent is constantly heard that Russia has too many unoccupied lands and inhabited territories, and it would not be bad to reconsider such mismanagement.
      And, do not entertain yourself with illusions with "these" potential partners, the only correct thing in this article is the picture at the beginning. A bear (Russia) is surrounded on all sides by dogs (PRO). And, they are only waiting for an excuse ... ah, sooner or later he will be found!

      Statements of M. Rommni (Cand. In the Pres.) Everyone knows. Smoke, as they say, without fire. And, Lamb Obama will not be more flexible ....
    4. Trailer April 11 2012 10: 02 New
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      "A reader who is familiar with such materials will be sure that the Russian Federation really sponsors Iran to create nuclear weapons in underground laboratories, Russia supports the Bashar al-Assad regime, which destroys civilians who are counting on outside help, Russia specifically increases the cost of military purchases in order to strike at US territory one day ... "Ah, that would be all true, at least in part!
      1. Neighbor
        Neighbor April 11 2012 15: 53 New
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        Relatives from Germany came to me - I zae .... tired of listening to their nonsense about the fact that in Russia - some bandits and crooks live !!! belay belay
        What is around - some mansions and luxury foreign cars drive.
        In principle, that which is true is true. Russia - takes 1st place in the world in the number of people who live! In the same Germany - to buy a car for 2 million - maybe very few who afford it. And here we have Tauregi da Infinity, all the time. Where do not spit.
        And this at that time - while simple hard workers and ordinary people - live modestly. In principle - something like in Germany - not very worse. They simply do not have so many hucksters, businessmen, deputies, traders and others - "Servant of the people." Therefore, they are in shock. For all my life - they are used to saving (very strictly) money, water (1 cc / in - they have 4 or 5 Euros - we have 20 r), products. Dress modestly, no need for extra.
        And with us - Stole - I lived widely for a year / two - still stole - in prison - romance!
        + of course - I agree 100% - the media is being processed - their thinking and opinions about us - that we are savages here - we almost sleep with bears in an embrace.!
        And Europeans are very naive and gullible people - like children. Too everything is stable there - they are used to everything and everyone to take a word! How many times have I seen imported videos - about Russia. There is Tin! This is taken up - a full 3,14ec. Either the nariks are 7 years old, then pedophiles, or family - they all go naked or whatever they show - then the Bear (like Russia), the wounded crawls along the traps. HORROR!!!
        And all this is done - with the filing of America.oso.sov. am
        To make people afraid of Russia, afraid of investing capital, building a business. Yes you never know. And in which case - to be told - you are right her - this Russia was destroyed! am
      2. Sterkoder
        Sterkoder April 12 2012 08: 43 New
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        Well, to hell with us all these gestures?
    5. Ruslan
      Ruslan April 11 2012 16: 15 New
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      Quote: Dmitriy69
      only it hurts so few.
      Here is a site here a lot of videos on this topic
      http://dokumentika.org/ru/ekonomicheskoe-oruzhie/rabotaiu-za-edu-svetloe-kapital
      isticheskoe-buduschee
      link from two parts copy and paste
    6. beech
      beech April 11 2012 17: 39 New
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      they run into us themselves, and then they scam us !!!
    7. Uralm
      Uralm April 11 2012 21: 37 New
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      The West wants resources and global power. Democracy roof. Only at ... the dyot is not clear to our liberals either
      If you delve into everything then completely kapets. With dollars which paper prices do not stand on which they were printed.
      With the killings of many presidents of the countries. Starting ...... until Iraq for now. In Guantanomo, in Poland to kill. Cynically. Type we still will not be anything!
      1. Uralm
        Uralm April 11 2012 22: 24 New
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        There is no this "democracy" the last hedgehog in the Siberian taiga knows. and our trolls are dumb or know. or they were paid.
      2. late
        late April 15 2012 00: 14 New
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        Nikolai Starikov, a St. Petersburg economist, wrote very well and in detail about this, his books diverge in thousands of copies, look about him on the internet and read, the West’s tricks under the leadership of the Fed are painted there and there, and US presidents have been dancing to the tune of Fed bankers since the time of the billionaire The founder of this system is John P. Morgan.
    8. Krilion April 12 2012 02: 10 New
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      Quote: Dmitriy69
      == it hurts too few of these.


      The problem is apparently the lack of systematic work by our leadership to increase their number ... Americans are not shy in every possible way to support various subversive NGOs in Russia and to pay for articles in the anti-Russian media ... I do not observe similar work from Russia, they expect, as usual, that the Western the layman will see clearly by himself, in the process of evolution .. at such a pace it will take a long time to wait ...
      1. 755962
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        "Russia, the former enemy, is again becoming one of the main obstacles to America’s foreign interests and will remain a thorn in the side of our country, while oil prices remain high," writes newspaper commentator John Bennett. Translation of the article leads Inopressa.

        It is the successful geographical position that provided Russia with the opportunity to dispose of huge hydrocarbon reserves that the newspaper explains the possibility of Moscow to be this very “splinter”.
    9. OSHA
      OSHA April 12 2012 09: 04 New
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      DRAW MORE BEARS. And ......
    10. dmitrich April 16 2012 04: 02 New
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      and when the west was normal towards us, probably when Peter Carla was gouging and then hardly.
    11. Vidgit
      Vidgit April 19 2012 00: 17 New
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      I am 85 years old and am glad that I have been a citizen of the country of councils, although not at a conscious age. And the feeling that my childhood was stolen does not go away. By God, the elders were more fortunate.
      Song in the theme - USSR State Radio and Television Children's Choir "-" Winged Swing "
    12. 3581782
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      Even very few, and those that are afraid of not seem like everyone else.
  2. vadimus
    vadimus April 11 2012 09: 11 New
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    Nothing new. Out of 1000 years, we have been fighting 700. And this is not because of boundless love for us. Simple envy and desire for power. From time immemorial, unfortunately ...
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 April 11 2012 21: 22 New
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      can anyone project?

      Russia is concentrating troops on the northern border with Iran and expects an attack by the West



      http://newzz.in.ua/ob/1148883061-rossiya-koncentriruet-voyska-na-severnoy-granic
      es-iranom-i-ozhidaet-ataki-zapada.html
  3. iulai
    iulai April 11 2012 09: 12 New
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    bitch children are afraid of us, they are afraid and envy. we would still have officials who love their country, and not current, who are accustomed to lick the ass bosses, we would not have a price!
  4. Indigo
    Indigo April 11 2012 09: 14 New
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    So for the Munich speech of GDP, in the West hiccups still now. And he didn’t hasten to help solve the problems of his country at the expense of his country — he hated to stop the collapse of the country and shut off the sponsorship of the sweet life of the West. The more stink and scream - the more correct the path chosen by the GDP!
  5. kosmos84 April 11 2012 09: 15 New
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    they need women’s resources and water
    1. Atlon
      Atlon April 11 2012 14: 23 New
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      As for women, I don’t agree ... There’s nothing for women ... bully
      1. lewerlin53rus April 11 2012 18: 12 New
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        Not only there fagotsgay men but also women lol
  6. SL.Kocegar
    SL.Kocegar April 11 2012 09: 17 New
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    Even more harsh words about the modern Western press and politics towards Russia are expressed by the American political analyst, an expert on the Russian Federation, Stephen Cohen. During a conference on acute issues of the new Cold War at Columbia University, Cohen said that today's attempts by the West to give Russia and Putin the image of their main enemies are common revenge on the part of those in power in the United States for failing to clean up completely. hands of Russia in 90-s.
    Common Thought (http://www.popmech.ru/article/10442-rossiya-v-koltse-druzey/0
  7. YARY
    YARY April 11 2012 09: 18 New
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    "Russian Stavaysa, we are a horde!"
    "AND us to fight!"
    When damn they were honest and unbiased? When they swore into diapers. There is no mass media and never has been, and never will be - which lives on its own. Only then they will write what they order, but "Friends of Russia" order
  8. Tugarin-zmey
    Tugarin-zmey April 11 2012 09: 27 New
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    It is nice to read such articles, they are fairly objective.
    1. Odinplys
      Odinplys April 11 2012 16: 03 New
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      The question is open ...
      Why did the "Friends" of Russia need a similar article in the United States ...
      Perhaps a concession to Russia in Syria ... or Iran ...
      Or maybe a US concession on missile defense sharing ...
      In the forehead, the Zionists..the enemy of Russia ...
  9. Uralm
    Uralm April 11 2012 09: 28 New
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    And so it was and will be. In recognition of "love" only EBN and Tagged could believe. when they had (and Russia too)
  10. Норд April 11 2012 09: 29 New
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    Good article. But alas, it should be recognized that such objective and unbiased personalities as Cohen and Gironimo are more likely an exception to the rule in Western media. Unfortunately, the majority of corrupt hacks and outright Russophobes are there. Calmly, reasonably expose them - the work is difficult, but doable. And the examples are in full view. These are the performances of Churkin, Lavrov, Leontiev ...
  11. Sniper 1968
    Sniper 1968 April 11 2012 09: 32 New
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    Do you know how they recognize our people in Europe? Unless, of course, they were originally in sandals, a quilted jacket, earflaps? By the look. By the eyes. Four days ago, I told my grandfather the Dutchman, an Amsterdam bartender. "There is something in your eyes that our people don’t. "Post Scriptum. I was not in a cafe-shop, in an ordinary restaurant. And I was not stoned. Respectfully.
    1. my opinion
      my opinion April 11 2012 14: 04 New
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      While on a long business trip to Germany, he drew attention to the difference in view, in the eyes of our people and them. It is almost impossible to meet their gaze; the gaze is immediately diverted. Our people are more open.
      1. freedom
        freedom April 12 2012 00: 35 New
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        quote from x / f. "... look into the eyes, only pissed ones look away. ...".
    2. Bear52 April 11 2012 22: 56 New
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      Thanks, Sniper 1968 (3) - to the point. With them - only business and nothing personal am
      1. Sniper 1968
        Sniper 1968 April 13 2012 18: 56 New
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        Bear52,
        They rotted, brother. Their whole world rotted ... Do you know what was wild in the center of Amsterdam? Dymofar from coffee shops, bl.di behind glass of 50 euros each and right there, the chime of cathedral bells ... I don’t even know how it is name ...
  12. karlo
    karlo April 11 2012 09: 35 New
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    We will be adequate, the Russian press also does not differ in love for America. So what it writes is that it does not reflect reality at all or is far from it. Russians generally do not want to hear anything positive about America (but it is), so journalists are the same people. It’s easier to write to the crowd. And it’s relevant to any country.
    1. Mostovik April 11 2012 09: 45 New
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      Yes. There are no journalists anywhere. There are journalism.
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      Quote: karlo
      We will be adequate, the Russian press also does not differ in love for America.
      And what kind of adequacy are you talking about? Even if a candidate for the post of US president declares Russia directly enemy No. 1. In your opinion, we should be delighted, and write laudatory opuses to a country which, in fact, as long as it exists, and unleashes wars around the world.
      1. karlo
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        And what kind of adequacy are you talking about?

        Only about the adequacy of those who read the press, not about the journalists.


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        Even if the candidate for the post of US president declares Russia as enemy No. 1 in plain text. In your opinion we must be delighted

        To cite statements by Russian candidates for president, such as Zyuganov or Zhirinovsky. Or believe in a word that they are no different, and sometimes just moronic.
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        write laudatory opuses to a country which, in fact, as long as it exists and unleashes wars around the world.

        Well, Russia (the USSR) is understandable, they didn’t unleash a dove of peace and no war. Well, then the people here are so angry that they simply tear everyone apart without neighbors, the West, the East or the former republics of the USSR.
        1. Baemaley99 April 11 2012 21: 02 New
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          karlo
          Well, it’s clear Russia (USSR), it’s a dove of peace and no war has been unleashed
          Just imagine, YES !!!!!!!!!!! What kind of war unleashed Russia (USSR)?
          Finnish, Reunion of Ukrainian and Belarusian lands, Moldova, Pibaltika. The Union simply extolled the lands of the Russian Empire, taken after the Mari and civil wars. Afghan, so this is generally the largest provocation of the United States. Lost our critical. Incidentally, the "jihat" did not begin against our troops (resistance to occupation). And also against their "commies" who, having read the works of Stallin, began to build communism and repress the local clergy and wealthy sections of society (ours later harnessed).
          And what did the “stronghold of democracy and justice” in the whole world of the USA do, there isn’t enough place to describe here. In addition to well-known facts, there are also unproven. Well, like a thief is not caught. 1st and 2nd world wars. Not always, not only, the one who started is guilty. The first to be shot. And the true culprit, the instigator, stood all the time behind him. Look for someone who benefits, well, who profited from these wars, and here you will find the culprit.
          Well, about the evil people, I did not expect anything else from you. DESERTIR, WITHOUT MOTHERLAND request
        2. Tersky April 12 2012 11: 25 New
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          I’ll leave a link for you, check out your "dove" http://our-russia.ucoz.ru/publ/vospitanie/kak_zakaljalas_demokratija_ili_skolko_
          vojn_razvjazali_ssha / 3-1-0-96
    3. Che
      Che April 11 2012 11: 55 New
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      Our articles still come in response from Western magazines. This cannot be overlooked. If the West suddenly became more adequate to Russia, and our answer would be more adequate.
      1. Mostovik April 11 2012 12: 04 New
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        Yes, there is no "our" media! They do not write anything in revenge! The phrase applies to all mass media: whoever pays for the girl dances her!
      2. karlo
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        Quote: Che

        Our articles still come in response from Western magazines. This cannot be overlooked. If the West suddenly became more adequate to Russia, and our answer would be more adequate

        Let me ask what Western press do you read? Or like an anecdote
        Rabinovich friend --- I do not like Paganini.
        Friend --- And you listened to him
        Rabinovich --- No, but Abramovich sang to me tongue
        1. Yars April 11 2012 21: 30 New
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          I read BILD, so they filter absolutely all comments on their website !!!
    4. old rocket man April 11 2012 12: 53 New
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      karlo,
      Well, with regard to the press, theirs and ours, you are right, but the fact is that we have different perceptions of the press. For the most part, our people treat public stuffing much more critical and meaningful than in the west. And the fact that the Russians they don’t like America (and not only it), sorry, we don’t like strangers at all, and what good have we seen from the West for centuries?
      1. karlo
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        Quote: old rocket
        Well, with regard to the press, theirs and ours, you are right, but the fact is that we have different perceptions of the press. For the most part, our people treat public stuffing much more critical and meaningful than in the west. And the fact that the Russians they don’t like America (and not only it), sorry, we don’t like strangers at all,

        First of all, we know the price of the press, but unlike you, we have many sources of information, but everyone draws his own conclusions.

        Quote: old rocket
        and what good have we seen from the West for centuries?

        As probably the west of Russia did not see much good, so there is probably some kind of parity.

        Although from my many conversations with Americans I’ll be honest, 70% do not even know where Russia is and they don’t give a damn about you (I want to find at least one Russian who does not know where America is)
        Americans have family first, then money, then some kind of football ...... then for a long, long time there is nothing, then work and maybe then there is time and place to find out where Russia is. It’s you who just swell in your anger and look for external enemies (stubbornly not noticing the mess in the country itself) and blaming everyone and everything but just not themselves for what is happening.
        1. Ruslan
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          Quote: karlo
          It’s you who just swell in your anger and look for external enemies (stubbornly not noticing the mess in the country itself) and blaming everyone and everything but just not themselves for what is happening.
          Gaddafi, too, was seduced by this nonsense about a friendly west and that the people of paranoia who said that the West needed Libyan oil - and what is the result?
        2. Yars April 11 2012 21: 32 New
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          all your media sources in Germany are dancing to the same tune filtering comments on articles !!!!!
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          Quote: karlo
          (stubbornly not noticing the mess in the country itself) and blaming everyone and everything but just not themselves for what is happening.

          It is interesting to hear a similar remark from a person whose whole prowess lies in the formula: he arrived at all ready. It was not with your hands and not with your mind that the economic power of Germany was created, it was not for you to boast about it. And certainly not for you to teach someone.
          1. karlo
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            It is interesting to hear a similar remark from a person whose all valor lies in the formula: he came to all the ready

            I live in Israel and I have nothing to do with this flag (thank God). About the ready-made in Israel - it’s interesting, I even smiled the slons
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          karlo,
          Just as we are on them and on you, with your mythical sources of information, "you are our informed" bully
          1. karlo
            karlo April 12 2012 10: 03 New
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            Quote: old rocket
            with your mythical sources of information, "you are our informed"

            everything in WIKI, or based on what you saw personally.
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              Quote: karlo
              everything in WIKI, or based on what you saw personally.


              Wikipedia is, of course, a reliable source of knowledge. Where anyone can attribute anything.
        5. Sterkoder
          Sterkoder April 12 2012 08: 58 New
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          the herd of the artiodactyl squad - Karle -
          Anger is present on those who pour mud on us without reason, who scare us with their children and train their soldiers to fight against us. Americans or anyone else let them know who will come to us with a sword in Russia, that with a club in the ass is stumbling.
          and I don’t know a more stupid nation than the Jews, how could I choose a place to live in the very middle of the Arab world, and still manage to quarrel with almost all the neighbors in the region. it’s you who made enemies in the face of all Arabs.
          A picture like this was settled by order of the executive committee of a Jew in an apartment where there is not enough living space for everyone, and he also commands someone to visit the bathroom and kitchen when the toilet.
          1. karlo
            karlo April 13 2012 10: 22 New
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            Quote: Sterkoder
            I don’t know a more stupid nation than the Jews, how could I choose a place to live in the very middle of the Arab world,

            They don’t choose their homeland, we always lived there.
            Quote: Sterkoder
            I do not know a more stupid nation than the Jews

            Well, of course, you can argue with that, well, you won’t understand.
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          Russian and unlike amers are interested in what is happening in the world. We probably know better geography, we are interested in all nations. By and large, the American people are also interesting to us, but your bloodthirsty rulers are not very interesting.
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        Yeah, and from the East too? am
    5. Ruslan
      Ruslan April 11 2012 17: 16 New
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      We will be adequate, the Russian press also does not differ in love for America.
      Let’s be objective the press and especially the presidential candidates write and say what the majority of the population wants to hear, and they choose them for that. This choice reflects reality. And if the majority of the population of the United States and Israel protect Russia as enemy No. 1, then this should begin.
      1. karlo
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        And if the majority of the population of the United States and Israel is protecting Russia as enemy No. 1, then this should begin.

        Well, do not rush towards Israel, we all the same understand that Russia is not an enemy for us, we have enough of our enemies. But honestly, I would not call her a friend. You are helping our enemies, I’m generally silent about love for Jews, so why should we consider Russia a friend? But the enemy is definitely not. But you have your own path and your goals. Which in many ways do not coincide with ours. just leave the Jews alone, deal with yourself.
        1. Ruslan
          Ruslan April 11 2012 20: 07 New
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          Well, do not rush towards Israel, we all the same understand that Russia is not an enemy for us
          You look at the Internet voting on RTVI channel - 65 ave. Voted for Russia to be enemy No. 1 - and this is logical because Israel is the closest ally of the United States and completely weighed on it - another thing Russian-speaking in Israel they have to split between two homelands there is no doubt but sooner or later it will have to be determined, especially since the Sephardim do not protect you there for full-fledged people, and even bury them behind the main fence of the cemetery, they are more pure-blooded than Ashkinazi even after death - even in Nazi Germany it wasn’t
        2. Yars April 11 2012 21: 41 New
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          you better turn to your top Jewish why everything is so. Ask them why they sat and were silent when Hitler destroyed the Jews, because they brought him to power and gave all the industry of the Euroorp to the war with the Soviet Union, sat and watched how he destroyed the Jews, because for them the destruction of the Soviet Union was more important than preserving the lives of ordinary Jews. !!!!
        3. Inzhengr
          Inzhengr April 12 2012 08: 30 New
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          Look again at the poor lamb israel
          http://perevodika.ru/articles/21258.html
          Quote: karlo
          just leave the Jews alone, deal with yourself.
        4. Sandov April 12 2012 18: 35 New
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          Well, whoever did the most for Israel is the USSR. And you began to bite his hand, which helped you so much after the war. I hope you will not deny this.
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          For karlo At this stage, relations are not the best between Israel and Russia, but who knows, in a certain scenario, great prospects for relations are possible and both sides will be interested in this, I would even say that Israel is a little more. But enemies, of course not, because in Israel one third of the population are our people, whoever says anything. Somehow I encountered an old Jewess in Germany, she asks me.
          -How are you, in Bobruisk?
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        Ruslan to the point good
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      Quote: karlo
      We will be adequate, the Russian press also does not differ in love for America

      Something I do not see sharp criticism of the United States by our press, unless they commit a crime against adopted children. Have you heard much criticism about the illegal arrests of our citizens in third countries? Or maybe you are enthusiastically reading angry articles about criminals who are on the international wanted list initiated by RUSSIA and who live quietly in the same England?
  13. Artur09-75
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    They don’t understand that they will someday choke on their shit, which they are trying to pour on us. Despite all attempts to denigrate, to all the bad things from the West, to all wars, Russia has withstood and will stand. I hope in this life to watch the sunset of the "great Western democracy."
  14. Liberal
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    The West takes revenge on Russia, rising from its knees, envious of its spirituality, great history, open spaces, natural and human resources, advanced Russian science, the presence of outstanding scientists such as academicians Petrik and Kadyrov ...

    But the main reason why the West takes revenge is because the bastards know - under the strict guidance of the party and government, under the vigilant control of an unchangeable commander, this country will soon become the world leader in nanotechnology. A friend of the commander, the most effective manager, Tolya Chubais, is working hard on this laughing
    1. Ruslan
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      Quote: Liberal
      The West takes revenge on Russia, rising from its knees, envious of its spirituality, great history, open spaces, natural and human resources, advanced Russian science, the presence of outstanding scientists such as academicians Petrik and Kadyrov ...
      A good example of the attitude of a Jewish liberal towards Russia, and IT lives in Russia, eats Russian bread and spits on the ground with which it feeds - defending its right to spit under the guise of dermocracy
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      Well, no need to jerk. Reflect and suspend all the pros and cons. If you are adequate then you will understand the truth behind us.
  15. Horde
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    empty, everything is political toys aimed at not too distant inhabitants of Russia, who see Putin as the "savior" of Russia, voted for Putin, have illusions about Putin. The sharks of the pen ("ours" and nenashi) are trying to put Putin out, like some kind of confrontation West, to make Putin's image attractive in the eyes of the Russian population. Type you see the West - our enemy against Putin’s policy means Putin really for Russia. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. This is not true - this is an information war.
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    I would not say that the West is taking revenge on us. There is an eternal confrontation between East and West. There is an eternal war against us. In the entire history of our State we are only a third of all history, we lived in peace, and fought the rest of the time. And why didn’t we fight ...
    1. karlo
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      Quote: sichevik
      I would not say that the West is taking revenge on us. There is an eternal confrontation between East and West. There is an eternal war against us. In the entire history of our State we are only a third of all history, we lived in peace, and fought the rest of the time. And why didn’t we fight ...

      view the link
      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D
      0%B9%D0%BD_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8

      72 Civil war in Russia 1917-1922 / 1923 The victory of the Reds.
      73 Soviet-Polish war 1920-1921 Defeat.
      74 Fights on Khalkhin-Gol (1939) Victory.
      75 Soviet-Polish war of 1939 Victory.
      76 Soviet-Finnish War (1939-1940) Victory.
      77 Great Patriotic War (1941-1945) Victory.
      78 Soviet-Japanese War (1945) Victory.
      79 Afghan War (1979-1989) Uncertain.
      80 Transnistrian conflict (1992) Uncertain.
      81 First Chechen War (1994-1996) Uncertain.
      82 The Second Chechen War (1999-2009) Victory.
      83 War in South Ossetia (2008) Victory.
      Some of all the wars in the 20th century, only two (No. 77 and 74) with Japan do not think i.e. part of the Second World War. They were started by another state-vom.
      All the rest was started by the USSR (RF) and just civilian inside Russia or disassembly in the post-Soviet space for zones of influence (the same is some analogue of civilian)
      Themselves did not really want to live in peace
      1. Ruslan
        Ruslan April 11 2012 20: 25 New
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        Quote: karlo
        Some of all the wars in the 20th century, only two (No. 77 and 74) with Japan do not think i.e. part of the Second World War. They were started by another state-vom.
        All the rest began the USSR (RF) and just civilian inside Russia

        Not tricky - Western families of Jewish nationality Waburga and Rodsheldi brought and then financed Adolf Hitler, and the Second World War outnumbered all the wars of the 20th century. taken together. And now we look at the main thing - the goals of war. The goal of the West has been and remains the transformation of the conquered countries into economic colonies and the extraction of resources from them. One USSR in the conquered territories raised its social base and invested money - FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?
        1. karlo
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          Not Tricky - Western Jewish Families Waburga and Rodsheld

          Complete nonsense, but for persuasiveness, at least learn to write last names without errors.

          Quote: Ruslan
          And now we look at the main thing - the goals of war. The goal of the West was and remains the transformation of the conquered countries into economic colonies and the extraction of resources from them

          With this you will probably explain the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact on the division of Europe.
          Although maybe you’re right, only then won the war? If you look at Russian export, it’s a typical raw material feeder in the West. Germany is the main recipient of these resources. Simply type in WIKI - Russian exports 2011 structure - you will like it. .A knowledge of goals and objectives.
          Quote: Ruslan
          One USSR in the conquered territories raised its social base and invested money - FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?

          Perhaps that’s why all these countries lived worse than the Western ones and at the first opportunity they rushed to quickly who in NATO and who in the EU.
          Quote: Ruslan
          FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?

          I feel, besides the inadequate Arab regimes, and several post-Soviet countries who are real allies of Russia. which countries are at least Europe, I'm not saying that the former republics of the union are fleeing from you.
          1. Ruslan
            Ruslan April 12 2012 01: 09 New
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            Quote: karlo
            Complete nonsense, but for persuasiveness, at least learn to write last names without errors.
            Why nonsense
            Meanwhile, now you can literally reckon the fingers of popular trading and banking brands, which at one time were not directly and indirectly mentioned in the multi-volume materials of high-profile litigation of the Nuremberg trials. Therefore, at a time when countries destroyed by the war meekly and dutifully kept records of millions of dead and missing, corporations did not have time to count billions in profits, announcing to the whole world about the financial achievements of their founding bosses. the financial and industrial elite of the United States of America. The circumstances of mutually beneficial cooperation with the German militarists of such pillars of the capitalist world as Standard Oil, General Electric, Ford, Davis Oil Company and General Motors plunged the entire civilized world into a real shock.
            By the start of World War II, the total contributions of American corporations to their German branches and representative offices amounted to about $ 800 million. Investments by Standard Oil were valued at 120 million, General Motors 35 million, ITT 30 million, Ford 17,5 million.
            Of course, the bosses of the largest American enterprises would not have embarked on the path of trade with the Nazis if they were not one hundred percent sure that it would be nothing serious for them from the US government. American lawyer James Martin, who spoke out among others against the practice of economic cooperation with the enemy, wrote in his book “Brotherhood of Business”: “In Germany, we were not disturbed by German, but American businessmen. Those who disturbed us acted from the United States, but did not act It’s not openly that Congress approved us, the order of the US president, or the decision of the president or any cabinet member to change the political course. In short, it’s not the “government” that formally hindered us, but the force that prevented us it’s very clear, I was holding in my hands the leverage with which governments usually act. In the face of the growing economic power, governments are relatively powerless, and this, of course, is not news. " On December 31, 1941, from the leadership of a number of corporations, the largest of which was Standard Oil, the US State Department received a letter to the US Department of Legal Affairs asking for clarification on which countries and which particular enterprises should be considered as entities, cooperation with which are not allowed. The answer of January 6, 1942 stated that the State Department had not yet resolved the issue of the list of enemies and their allies. Later, the United States Congress announced that a presidential decree of December 13, 1941 allows transactions that are, in principle, prohibited by the law on trade with the enemy, unless there is a special written prohibition from the US Treasury.

            In addition, according to the above decree, the US national government could formally grant American enterprises and their business associations special permission to conduct transactions with companies owned by the Nazis and their allies. These permits were successfully issued by the US Department of the Treasury throughout World War II. Despite the damage that such permits inflicted on the economy and defense capabilities of the United States itself.

            So, the multinational American telephone corporation ITT, which was under the protectorate of the U.S. intelligence service, after America entered the war, was officially allowed to continue trade with Italy, Germany and Japan until 1945. ITT also participated in organizing the largest production of guided aerial bombs and advanced bombers that destroyed the cities and armed forces of the Allies.
            Branches of the Ford company have established the most powerful production in the territory of occupied France, with the support of the all-powerful head of the Reichswerk Hermann Goering industrial concern. The Rockefeller Bank Chase Bank and Morgan credit institutions carried out their operations here, having received approval from the Reichsbank bosses and the top of the German Ministry of Economy. To all of them, the Nazis from the administrative-administrative elite of the state apparatus guaranteed that after the victory of Germany their property would not be done absolutely no harm.

            At a time when the States were unable to supply their own army with raw materials, in particular synthetic rubber, Standard Oil Corporation entered into a deal with Hitler Germany, according to which the company was obliged to carry out regular deliveries of raw materials, fuel and rubber overseas to Germany, Italy and Austria. As a result, the American army was left with nothing - the supply of necessary raw materials was scheduled by the Rockefeller clan for 8 years in advance. When the United States entered World War II, the American government was forced to negotiate with a front British office selling rubber and other necessary resources bought from German concerns, which in turn were sold from Rockefeller. Thus, when the Americans, through third parties, acquired their own raw materials, Standard Oil received excess profits on both sides.
            No less indicative is another incident that occurred due to the fault of the Messrs. Rockefellers, no longer in favor of Great Britain. In the very first days of the war, Standard Oil executives made a deal with a major German corporation, I. G. Farbenindustri, through a front-line English company, according to which it was supposed to use a patent for the production of tetraethyl, which is necessary for the manufacture of aviation gasoline. The company I.G. Farbenindustri, which produced aviation gasoline, supplied them with the German army, which at that very time bombed London and its environs. The profits from the use of the patent went to the British branch of Standard Oil under the name EthylComany. Typically, the British taxpayers paid for this patent, since the branch officially sold the patent to another British company that had secretly collaborated with I. G. Farbenindustri. "It turned out that Britain was bombed and burned at her own expense and with the help of enterprises registered in her own territory. Some of the income from such activities of corporations settled on the bottom of the US state treasury.

            Thus, the actions of the largest companies were never carried out without the participation and consent to, albeit, in some cases, even the tacit, political leadership of the United States. Therefore, from the point of view of national legislation, as well as the military-political interests of America, commercial enterprises trading with Hitler Germany carried out socially useful activities, bringing multimillion-dollar revenues to the state treasury in the form of taxes, fines and duties. Much more difficult was the moral assessment of corporations during the war. Justifying the reasons for the participation of US industrial corporations in trade with fascist Germany, the representative of Standard Oil Reese Trout immediately after the end of the Nuremberg process drew public attention to the very nature of modern corporations. Trout said the company’s directors, now accused of betraying thousands of American soldiers who died during the war in Europe, the USA and Africa, are faced by hundreds of thousands of shareholders, private investors and ordinary workers, whose tomorrow’s prosperity directly depends on today's earnings of enterprises.
            Regarding Standard Oil itself, Trout cynically added that the management of a fuel-producing company would have committed a much greater crime by losing hands on multimillion-dollar contracts with the Germans: “We produce gasoline, military equipment and weapons - in general, everything needs any warring state. We did not unleash this war. At that time, we simply did our job - we were asked to deliver orders and we delivered them. If you want to say that we have betrayed someone, tell the workers who otherwise could not offer their children anything but debts. ”
            It sounds convincing, but Trout, of course, was cunning. In fact, a trade partnership with the fascist murder machine was given special attention at the time by the IBM Corporation, whose leadership subsequently publicly apologized dozens of times and made excuses to humanity for actions committed during the war. Incidentally, there was nothing to apologize for - the company accepted the most that neither was directly involved in the physical destruction of millions of people.
            Tasks to ensure such accounting were found extremely quickly. The solution was proposed by the specialists of "IBM." In order to collect, store, systematize and catalog information on prisoners of war and repressed prisoners of fascism from America, the delivery of punch cards "IBC" was carried out. The equipment and technologies developed and delivered to Germany by the company "IBC" were used by the Nazis in the work of the concentration camp system. trademark “IBM Technology”
            Have questions ?
            1. karlo
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              Quote: Ruslan
              Have questions ?

              I did not see here either the name of Rothschild, or the names of banks.
              By the way, before the Second World War, the main trade and military partner of Hitler, was the USSR. IMHO.
              1. Ruslan
                Ruslan April 12 2012 09: 26 New
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                Quote: karlo
                I did not see here either the name of Rothschild, or the names of banks
                And you look - who is behind the above firms and turn on the brains and don’t fall for the fool, who has a controlling stake in the US Federal Reserve since 1913 and who determines in fact the policies of the USA and other Western countries - especially when they allowed to suspend payments of reparations following the results of World War I Germany immediately after Hitler came to power in order for him to invest this money in the restoration of the Wehrmacht.
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            Carlo
            I do not understand. why are you lying, listing the armed conflicts and declaring Russia guilty of unleashing them? After all, even you there know that of the conflicts you cited, we were initiated by the Finnish War and the Afghan. How could we attack good Poland if the peace-loving Poles declared war on all their neighbors (including us) during the month after independence? Is that what we sent the Romanian troops and the Moldovan police to Transnistria? For several years, it was we who destroyed the non-Chechen population in the republic, as a reason for the invasion? We damn, finally, more than a day hammering with howitzers and hail of Tskhinval and our peacekeepers to viciously kick the dove of peace - Mishiko?
            As for the Moscow treaty, I’ll answer briefly - the explanations will be given after you explain why the same treaties with Germany were signed by all the major European countries, why Europe’s division of Czechoslovakia-Munich agreement is good, why kind Poland, torn along with Czechoslovakia Hitler (captured Teshinsky region) - a sheep (by the way Churchill then called it the hyena of Europe), and we, having returned our territories and not giving the Nazis living there, Ukrainians, Belarusians and Russians - a wolf.
            But please tell me, since when did the Jews start talking about Russia the same thing as the Bandera, the Baltic Nazis, who occasionally appear here? Or are you the only one so tolerant? Well then, I’m glad that you have such good allies, it characterizes you very clearly. In general, it would be fun to look at you in one line.
            Or do you care who your like-minded people are, the main thing is that the goals are the same?
      2. olegyurjewitch April 11 2012 21: 08 New
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        Themselves did not really want to live in peace

        Firstly, 78, we declared war on Japan in accordance with an allied treaty, secondly, Transnistria, the Russian army was neutral, did not participate in hostilities, so everything is determined there. But thirdly, the better Israel is Russia?
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          Firstly, 78, we declared war on Japan in accordance with an allied treaty, secondly, Transnistria, the Russian army was neutral, did not participate in hostilities, so everything is determined there. But thirdly, the better Israel is Russia?

          but I do not compare, but attacked us, and not vice versa.
          1. olegyurjewitch April 12 2012 19: 35 New
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            Well, the war in Chechnya, the internal affair of Russia, the restoration of constitutional order, Chechnya is a constituent entity of the federation, does it mean that we ourselves have declared war? We go further, the war with Poland, who declared it? Look on the Internet about this war, I mean 1939. The war in Ossetia, an armed invasion of an independent republic, aggression by Georgia, the Russian contingent of peacekeeping forces was destroyed. You have Russia as an aggressor, we have it called FORCING TO PEACE. Here you and the media, ours and yours. But history must be taught from various sources, the truth is near.
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            karlo
  17. Prophet Alyosha
    Prophet Alyosha April 11 2012 10: 01 New
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    Absolutely true in the article, Putin's accents are set only IMAGINE as an enemy of the West! In fact, they know that he is their faithful servant and "slave in the galleys"!
    1. Liberal
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      That's for sure. Well, what kind of Putin is the enemy if, with him, Russian military bases in Cuba and Vietnam were very quickly closed. The USA simply went nuts from such a gift and, in gratitude, with non-resistance of the Russian Federation, built their own, American military bases in the former Soviet republics laughing
      1. BMW
        BMW April 11 2012 15: 49 New
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        I’m looking at minus, but no one wants to look at this problem from the other side. Who knows where the truth is? - none of those here. In the next articles, you pour mud over the environment of the GDP, but do not touch the “great helmsman” - he is our star. It seems that you are not all right with the logic. Or Serdyukov, Golikov, Fursenko did not bring GDP to light ???
        1. late
          late April 22 2012 10: 20 New
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          Why didn’t Putin please you? For comparison, Gorbachev, the perestroika, destroyed the SUPERPOWER in six years! Remember Russia under Yeltsin, we were dying out like flies, and the West, what he wanted, he did in the world! What kind of Russia went to Putin - weak, falling apart, not having his own voice in the world. And now? Have you heard of national projects? Birth rate increase? Raising pensions, issuing apartments to veterans of the Second World War, improving the general standard of living? RUSSIA DARK DICTIONS THEIR WILL! Where do you live? Open your eyes! Or is this all by itself obtained, without the efforts of the government?
      2. sribnuu
        sribnuu April 11 2012 17: 54 New
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        Zhora - aka Liberal - is a banderlog!
        1. late
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          Red and hairy! smile
      3. rexby63 April 11 2012 20: 56 New
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        After default, there wasn’t much to choose from. And just the liberals brought the country to default, with the strong support of the overseas "comrades."
      4. OSHA
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      5. elvira
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        I support !!!!
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  18. Slavs69 April 11 2012 10: 03 New
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    The West takes revenge on Russia, rising from its knees, envious of its spirituality, great history, open spaces, natural and human resources, advanced Russian science,
    Liberalbecause you can when you want ....
    1. OSHA
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      AND HERE RUSSIA AND Pukin, moreover, you filter sometimes and you’ll
  19. Manager April 11 2012 10: 04 New
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    Let the yapping. They will try to bite - they will get by the teeth. The main thing is to be ready to give them the teeth.
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      and give something in the teeth
      1. OSHA
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        in heart all sold on stools
  20. Vladimir 70 April 11 2012 10: 08 New
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    It can be concluded: in the West there were no, and there will not be "friends of Russia"! This is historically the case. By Russia we must understand the land from the eastern border of Poland and the East. By the West we must understand the Anglo-Saxons. For the West, the ideal ruler of Russia, such as EBN.
    1. karlo
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      It can be concluded: in the West there were no, and there will not be "friends of Russia"!

      Will there ever be friends of the West in Russia?
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        Oleg0705 April 11 2012 21: 35 New
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        Will there ever be friends of the West in Russia?


        and who is there for the last 20 years? enemies? what
      2. Yars April 11 2012 21: 36 New
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        they will not, the West has always just wanted to strangle Russia, it was so now
      3. OSHA
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        and you know who saved the United States, from England, in the days of their civilian. WHO DOESN'T INTERFERE IN THE WAR OF THE NORTH AND SOUTH, RUSSIA, PONEL, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, USA WE ARE OBLIGED TO EVERYTHING
      4. Sandov April 12 2012 18: 45 New
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        Separate scum appeared here, but for the Russians they are traitors and unworthy of respect for the individual. And to really respect you, learn to respect others.
      5. Sandov April 13 2012 23: 36 New
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        Carlo will never be a friend of the West in Russia until they teach us how to live in a tone of a meteor. In jo-poo of such friends.
  21. vostok
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    I liked the drawing, the Bear is clearly stronger than the shameful wolves and jackals of all sorts !!!
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      THERE ARE SUCH PICTURES AND COME TO THE PARTY EDRO,
  22. markus112
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    totally agree
  23. Alexander Romanov April 11 2012 10: 31 New
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    Article plus! We will never again bend down to the west, trust in the 80's, enough to understand what they are. Hypocrites and liars
    1. karlo
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov

      Article plus! We will never again bend down to the west, trust in the 80's, enough to understand what they are. Hypocrites and liars

      Well, yes, the brothers in the 80s sent the same thing from the west?
  24. Nymp
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    "After being exposed by a journalist, Joseph McCarthy’s career has rolled towards sunset." Yes, but nevertheless, US policy has not changed! And realizing that the passions artificially inflated by the United States fanned the Cold War, and from an ally (after all, Hitler was beaten together) turned into an enemy. So now the wave of Russophobia is at its peak, and sensible people can no longer stop it. Who wanted, he did his dirty deed! So whether you want someone or not, we are moving into the second stage of the Cold War. Russia needs to draw conclusions from its defeat, and no longer step on this rake! All liberals should be perceived as the fifth column within the country, and all former republics should be posed with an edge; either with us or against, and treat them accordingly to their geopolitics.
    1. Atlon
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      The United States fanned the Cold War, and from an ally (because Hitler was beaten together) turned into an enemy.

      Hmm ... Nymp, and how old are you? At which school did he study history? Something I don’t remember, what would we do, so it’s direct: “Hitler TOGETHER TOGETHER ...” Thank you at least I didn’t say that we helped the USA beat Hitler ... Though they beat him together ... However, with the modern level of education, it looks like it will be soon: "The United States beat Hitler, and the USSR hung under its feet, interfered with the process ..."
      1. Nymp
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        Hmm ... Nimp, how old are you?
        No need to scoff, I studied history perfectly, that the USA was allies in the anti-Hitler coalition; only the “glamor” boy may not know. “The anti-Hitler coalition years against the countries of the Nazi bloc, also called the Axis Countries: Germany, Italy, Japan and their satellites.

        During the war years, the term “United Nations”, proposed by Roosevelt and first used in the 1942 United Nations Declaration (Washington Declaration of Twenty-Six), became a synonym for the anti-Hitler coalition. The influence of the coalition on the military and post-war political alignment is enormous; the United Nations (UN) was created on its basis.

        In September 1939, Poland, France, Great Britain and its dominions were at war with Germany (the Anglo-Polish military alliance 1939 and the Franco-Polish alliance 1921). During 1941, the Soviet Union, the United States, and China joined the coalition. As of January 1942, the anti-Hitler coalition numbered 26 states: the so-called Big Four (USA, UK, USSR, China), British dominions (Australia, Canada, India, New Zealand, South Africa), countries of Central and Latin America and the Caribbean, and also governments in exile of occupied European countries. The number of coalition members increased during the war; By the time the war with Japan ended, 53 states of the world were at war with Germany and its allies. "This is from Wiki, if you believe me in the good! And you don’t need to know my age, it may well be even older than you!
        1. Prorox April 11 2012 19: 56 New
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          During 1941, the Soviet Union joined the coalition


          Yes, it’s sure that you’re not getting along with the story, you know “joined” and underwent a treacherous attack two different things.
          The Soviet Union entered the Great Patriotic War as a result of an attack on our country by Nazi Germany. Coalition agreements formed only in 1944 with the landing of the Anglo-Saxons in France. though by that time the outcome of the war had already been decided. The arguments on Lend-Lease can be considered coalition actions, if not for one thing, the supply of amers to Nazi Germany continued, as it were not strange, until 1944.
          1. Nymp
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            Surely you’re not getting along with history,
            Did you even read carefully? THIS IS AN EXTRACT FROM WIKIPEDIA !!! What are my claims? Open WIKIPEDIA AND COMPARE TEXT. Will another prove non-alliance with the US during the war? Go to hell!
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              If you are studying history on this "creation", good luck.
              1. Nymp
                Nymp April 11 2012 21: 59 New
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                Cancel all explanatory dictionaries - they are not worthy of creation, as you put it! I’m also a patriot and I don’t like when the Baltic countries redraw the history of the Second World War but to such an absurdity as you get ....
      2. karlo
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        "The United States beat Hitler, and the Soviet Union dangled underfoot, interfered with the process ..."

        Do not forget about the role of the United States in the Second World War (of course, of course, the USSR brought the main burdens). But the question remains open, could the USSR survive without lend-lease especially in the first years of the war. After all, understand that Hitler did not fight America and did not bomb, and did not declare war on her (the first) did not attack. America could calmly aside on all this to observe as a huge number of states, which the Great Patriotic War did not affect in any way. But they began to help us, despite the political differences and their help was enormous.
        Let's start with the attitude of the US government towards the USSR after the German attack on it. So, already on June 24, 1941, US President Franklin Roosevelt at a press conference announced the readiness of the United States to provide assistance to the Soviet Union. In particular, he said: "Of course, we are going to provide Russia with all the help that we can." Moreover, he sent his close friend Harry Hopkins to the USSR as the personal representative of the President of the United States to study on-site the needs of the Soviet Union in armaments, gear, equipment, vehicles, equipment, strategic raw materials, medicines, food and other items and things of the first necessary. Harry Hopkins, after meeting with Stalin, in his message dated July 31, 1941, informed the White House that “Stalin considers it impossible to resist the material power of Germany, which had the resources of occupied Europe, without American help from Great Britain and the USSR” 2 Hopkins outlined Stalin’s revelations in detail in his report to the president after returning from Moscow. 3

        So, Marshal G.K. Zhukov in post-war conversations with writer K.M. Simonov said: "Speaking about our preparedness for war from the point of view of the economy and the economy, we can not ignore such a factor as subsequent assistance from the Allies. First of all, of course, on the part of the Americans, because the British in this sense helped us to a minimum. When analyzing all aspects of the war, this cannot be discounted. We would be in a difficult situation without American gunpowder, we could not produce as much ammunition as we needed "Without American" Studebakers, we would have nothing to carry our artillery on. Yes, they largely provided our front-line transport. The production of special steels necessary for the most diverse needs of the war was also associated with a number of American supplies. "

        The reliability of K. Simonov’s transmission of these conversations with Zhukov in 1965-1966 is confirmed by G. Zhukov’s statements recorded as a result of an interrogation by the security authorities in 1963: “Now they say that the Allies never helped us ... But because it’s impossible to deny that the Americans drove so much material to us that we couldn’t build up our reserves and could not continue the war ... We didn’t have explosives, gunpowder, there was nothing to equip rifle cartridges with. The Americans really helped out. us with gunpowder, explosives. And how much they drove us to sheet steel! How could we quickly set up the production of tanks, if not for American help with steel? And now they present the matter so that we had all of this in abundance. "{4}

        Supply Range
        The nomenclature of Lend-Lease supplies was determined by the Soviet government and was designed to fill up the bottlenecks in the supply of our industry and the army.
        Aircraft 22 150
        Tanks 12 700
        Passenger jeeps and all-terrain vehicles 51 503
        Trucks 375 883
        35 170 Motorcycle
        Tractors 8 071
        Rifle 8 218
        Automatic weapons 131 633
        Pistols 12 997
        Explosives 345 735 tons
        Dynamite 70 400 000 pounds (31 933 tons)
        Gunpowder 127 000 tons
        TNT 271 500 000 pounds (123 150 tons)
        Toluene 237 400 000 pounds (107 683 tons)
        903 detonators 000
        Building Equipment $ 10 910 000
        Commodity wagons 11 155
        Locomotive 1 981
        90 CARGO SHIP
        105 anti-submarine ships
        Torpedo 197
        445 radars
        Engines for ships 7784
        Food stocks 4 478 000 tons
        Machinery and equipment $ 1 078 965 000
        Non-ferrous metals 802 000 tons
        Petroleum products 2 670 000 tons
        Chemical 842 000 tons
        Cotton 106 893 000 tons
        Leather 49 860 tons
        Tire 3 786 000
        Army boots 15 417 000 pairs
        1 541 590 Blankets
        Alcohol 331 066 L
        The attitude of Lend Lease to its own production in the USSR

        Materials Production of the USSR Lend-Lease Lend-Lease / Production of the USSR,%
        Explosives, thousand tons 558 295,6 53%
        Copper, thousand tons 534 404 76%
        Aluminum, thousand tons 283 301 106%
        Tin, thousand tons 13 29 223%
        Cobalt, tons 340 470 138%
        Gasoline, thousand tons 4700 (according to VB Sokolov - 5,5 million tons [21]) 1087 23%
        Car tires, thousand units 3988 3659 92%
        Wool, thousand tons 96 98 102%
        Sugar, thousand tons 995 658 66%
        Canned meat, million cans 432,5 2077 480%
        Animal fats, thousand tons 565 602 107%
        Well, the main myth about payments
        Immediately after the war, the United States sent to countries receiving Lend-Lease assistance a proposal to return the surviving military equipment and pay off the debt to receive new loans. Since the Lend-Lease Act provided for the cancellation of used military equipment and materials, the Americans insisted on paying only for civil supplies: railway transport, power plants, ships, trucks and other equipment that were in the recipient countries as of September 2, 1945. [40] The United States did not demand compensation for the military equipment destroyed during the fighting.
        [edit] United Kingdom
        The amount of UK debts to the United States amounted to $ 4,33 billion, to Canada - $ 1,19 billion. The last payment of $ 83,25 million (in favor of the United States) and $ 22,7 million (Canada) was made on December 29, 2006. [41]
        The volume of US Lend-Lease deliveries amounted to about 11 billion US dollars. According to the Lend-Lease Act, only equipment that survived the war was subject to payment; to agree on the final amount, immediately after the war, Soviet-American negotiations began. At the 1948 talks, Soviet representatives agreed to pay only a small amount and met the predicted failure of the American side. The negotiations of 1949 also led to nothing. In 1951, Americans twice reduced the amount of payment, which began to equal $ 800 million, but the Soviet side agreed to pay only $ 300 million [43]. According to the Soviet government, the calculation should not have been carried out in accordance with real debt, but on the basis of a precedent. This precedent should have been proportions in determining the debt between the United States and Great Britain, which were fixed in March 1946.
        An agreement with the USSR on the procedure for paying off debts under Lend-Lease was concluded only in 1972 [44]. Under this agreement, the USSR pledged to pay $ 2001 million, including interest, until 722. By July 1973, three payments were made for a total of $ 48 million, after which payments were discontinued due to the introduction of discriminatory measures by the American side in trade with the USSR (Jackson-Vanik Amendment). In June 1990, during negotiations between the presidents of the United States and the USSR, the parties returned to a discussion of the debt. [45] A new deadline for the final repayment of debt was set in 2030, and the amount was $ 674 million. [46]
        After the collapse of the USSR, the debt for help was reissued to Russia (Yeltsin, Kozyrev), as of 2003, Russia owed approximately 100 million US dollars. [47] [48]
        Thus, of the total volume of US Lend-Lease deliveries of $ 11 billion, the USSR, and then Russia, recognized and then partially paid, $ 722 million, or about 7%. However, it is worth considering that today's dollar is "lighter" than the 1945 dollar by about 15 times.
        1. Ruslan
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          Do not forget about the role of the United States in World War II
          This film details how the United States and England brought and fully funded fascists in Germany - this will not be shown on the Jewish Discovery Channel. See 2 series about "friends" of Russia
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETclRqY4Rzc
          1. karlo
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            Quote: Ruslan
            This film details how the United States and England brought and fully funded fascists in Germany - this will not be shown on the Jewish Discovery Channel. See 2 series about "friends" of Russia
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETclRqY4Rzc

            is that you tell Stalin
            February 11 1940 in Moscow the signing of an economic agreement between the USSR and Germany took place. It stipulated that the Soviet Union would supply Germany with goods worth 420 — 430 million German marks for 12 months, that is, until February 11 of 1941. Germany was obliged to supply the USSR with military materials and industrial equipment for the same amount in 15 months, that is, until 11 in May 1941 of the year. At 11 on August 1940 of the year (six months after the signing of the agreement), as well as at 11 on February 1941 of the year (one year later), German deliveries should have lagged behind Soviet supplies by no more than 20%. Otherwise, the USSR had the right to “temporarily suspend its supplies.”
            The agreement provided that the USSR would supply Germany
            1 000 000 tons of feed grain and legumes worth 120 million Reichsmarks
            900 000 tons of oil worth about 115 million Reichsmarks
            100 000 tons of cotton worth about 90 million Reichsmarks
            500 000 tons of phosphate
            100 000 tons of chromite ores
            500 000 tons of iron ore
            300 000 tons of pig iron scrap and pig iron
            2 400 kg of platinum
            To ensure the fulfillment of its orders, the USSR undertook to supply Germany with 18 11 tons of copper, 000 tons of nickel, 3000 tons of zinc, 950 tons of molybdenum 500 tons of tungsten, 500 tons of cobalt over the next 40 months.
            In addition, the USSR provided a discount to Germany on the transit of its goods (especially soybeans from Manzhou-go) via the Trans-Siberian Railway.
            1. Ruslan
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              is that you tell Stalin
              At first Hitler was armed, then they helped Stalin - so that the goyim would kill each other longer and more, and at that time the United States would defend military supplies on two sides and boost the economy from the great recession. Why Hitler didn’t attack Switzerland - the center of the Jewish banking system - the owners were there
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            I’m watching something vidyuha and Nichrome I can’t understand, the Kurginyan was always for Stalin belay
        2. Prorox April 11 2012 22: 04 New
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          But the question remains open, could the USSR survive without Lend Lease, especially in the first years of the war


          Tell me when regular deliveries began and the answer is clear in mid-1942.
          The question is not worth winning and unequivocally, the time factor can be considered only.

          When our country paid in the war with blood (for its survival) and gold (for the supply of "allies"), the thought creeps in on the role of each country in the Victory over Hitler Germany.
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            Tell me when regular deliveries began and the answer is clear in mid-1942.

            Not true
            From October 1941 to June 30, 1942 the United States sent 545 aircraft, 783 tanks to the USSR, more than 3 times less than promised, as well as 16502 5 trucks, that is, more than 13 times less than planned. [XNUMX ]

            less than planned (due to the lack of a sufficient number of ships and the insufficient organization of the convoy wiring service)

            Quote: Prorox
            When our country paid in the war with blood (for its survival) and gold (for the supply of "allies"), the thought creeps in on the role of each country in the Victory over Hitler Germany.

            When I carefully read my post, I could probably see that America’s closest ally, England, paid in full on Lend-Lease, and the USSR paid only 7% (again, payments were made only for the surviving equipment). Again, America could stand aside and calmly observe, as this war simply did not concern her in the long run.
            For example, Argentina throughout the war (with the exception of the end of 1945) supplied Germany with beef and other food products. Having made millions. What do you say about this. I'm not talking about Holland with its rubber from New Guinea, etc.
            1. Yars April 11 2012 22: 57 New
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              if America was initially interested in the victory of the Soviet Union, then the operation in Normandy would have been back in the 1941 year, and so they sat down and sold us the equipment for gold, pretending that they were like us. Instead of giving thanks to the Soviet Union for the fact that you and your relatives live, here you hang up awards not for anyone to fake that !!!!
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                Quote: YARS
                if America had been initially interested in the victory of the Soviet Union, then the operation in Normandy would have been back in 1941, and so they sat and sold us equipment for the gold case that looks like they are kind to us.

                In general, America had practically no military industry before the war, and the armed forces (ground) were simply ridiculous. Do not forget that America had obligations to England. I already do not say that my own hemorrhoids were also enough for the Japanese. America went to war with Japan in December 1941, nevertheless, she found strength and opportunities to help the USSR, too.
                Quote: YARS
                Instead of thanking the Soviet Union for the fact that you and your relatives live, you hang up awards here not foolishly for no reason !!!!

                And where, I did not show gratitude? My grandfather died, and the second returned in 1944 as a disabled person of the second group. Nevertheless, the truth is, it is true. America has the same thing for saying thank you. The most interesting thing is that you all hate America more than Germany. How priorities change.
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                  For karlo I put you a plus, but I don’t know if it’s good or bad for you, because you are in gray. US assistance in World War II was significant. I would approach this a little differently. The question is not whether we could defeat the Nazis in the Second World War, but the question is how many lives were saved thanks to this help. I would also like to recall US President F. Roosevelt, the role of this president in the United States is difficult to overestimate. It is not known how things would have been if G. Truman had been in power.
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          Carlo
          read. Please Hayem "Trade with the Enemy." This American very meticulously studied the question of how and how the United States helped Hitler before the war and during the war. And then “strike our imagination” with your sensational revelations.
  25. Sinbad April 11 2012 10: 34 New
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    “Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword! On that stood, the Russian land stood, stands and stands” Dmitry Donskoy. It seems so, if you distorted it - sorry.
    The stronger Russia, the weaker the west, and they have already exceeded the peak of their development. So rage.
    1. vostok
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      These wonderful words were said by Alexander Nevsky.
  26. Sitroy
    Sitroy April 11 2012 10: 36 New
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    If Romney wins the election, what will happen? Not really the Cold War again?
    1. Atlon
      Atlon April 11 2012 14: 33 New
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      If Romney wins the election, what will happen? Not really the Cold War again?

      Did it end ??? belay
      She continues without stopping. Only weapons change. Now at the peak of use, a media weapon. Cheap and cheerful!
  27. quaygon
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    picture is good, the author is five good Well, as our head says wink the dog barks, the caravan goes yes
  28. JoylyRoger
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    We are just different.
    Outwardly the same Europeans. But not that.
    Another worldview, another mindset.
    Everything is in its own way, not as it should be for the "civilized" West.
    At one time, they abandoned the Marshall plan, God willing and now get up from our knees.
    Yes, we are just another branch of civilization, a real alternative to the West.
    Therefore, ALWAYS will treat us like this, regardless of whether we have a president, dictator or king, and NEVER we will be able to integrate into Europe.
    Therefore, it is high time not to suck up, but simply to go our own way.

    Well, now I’m cons of cons wink
  29. ward April 11 2012 11: 41 New
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    Well, while they are scolding us ... as I understand it, everything is fine with us ... well, less than that ... but if they praise us ... then we urgently need to find out where we got pierced ...
  30. maksman
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    Yet the cowardly people are the Anglo-Saxons. For some reason, during the Union, neither I, nor any of my friends were afraid of either Reagan or Bush, after the coup, we were not afraid of either Clinton or Bush again. Why are they starting to piss at the word Russia? Maybe you need to take advantage of this? To play on the nerves of thirty years - to bring their policies to the highest degree of insanity, and military spending until the moment when their economy can not stand and fall apart? So that later to come with a kalash to the advantage, and say - "Do not be afraid, do not offend"
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      And give the land to the Indians, even on the prairies, they hunt the Saxons.
  31. Mr. Truth
    Mr. Truth April 11 2012 12: 01 New
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    Because we are Russian, and they are Anglo-Saxons. Because we live in the heart of the Earth, and they are on the islands, and on the earth which was taken from the Indians. Because we want to live in peace and just live, and they want more power, more superiority, more than anything. Therefore, they hated us, they hate us, and they will hate us.
    1. korbdegree
      korbdegree April 11 2012 12: 45 New
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      Heil Puten! Hooray! Ololo!
      Do you seriously think the way you wrote?
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        I think so, but what ...
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        Mr. Truth April 11 2012 14: 06 New
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        Quote: korbdegree
        Heil Puten! Hooray! Ololo!
        Do you seriously think the way you wrote?

        Yes, like all normal people.
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          korbdegree April 11 2012 14: 08 New
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          That is, the black and white picture of the world, dullness, thoughtlessness, the absence of critical thinking and blind faith by the false media are signs of a normal person? Then it’s not surprising why we live like this ...
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            Is that all you wrote about the states now?
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            Korbdegree
            How true you are here all told about yourself. I praise you for your honest attitude and self-criticism. Indeed, it is now clear. why do you live like that and why say this .... And I join you. especially in that. where are you about stupidity, lack of critical thinking, and about your blind faith by the most deceitful media.
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            3581782 10 May 2012 12: 10 New
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            Can you suggest something better?
  32. aksakal April 11 2012 12: 12 New
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    This is a plus, but I remain in my opinion - the center of planetary development is slowly but surely shifting east, and after the completion of this movement, we are still waiting for competition with China for the epicenter itself to be in the post-Soviet space. But even if this center goes south-east, being a sub-center of development is also very good. In this case, the flow of global investment will naturally redirect to the east - this flow is always where the center of development is. What awaits the west in the event of a shallowing river of investment flow? Detroit, full Detroit all over the West. I remember that as a result of the workers' over-struggle for their rights, Detroit left automobile investments, as a result, America’s huge auto capital turned into a ghost town, on the outskirts there are houses where no one lives, gaping with broken glasses. This happened in small towns in the 90s, but thank God, the metropolis represented by Amer, thanks to Putin, loosened his grip, and now apartments in these suburbs even cost some money.
    Oh, how I dream to live and see the huge Detroit on the Amerian continent and all of Western Europe. And hordes of French women dreaming of getting governesses for me. In my opinion, this has already happened in history - it is very necessary to repeat that the arrogance would be knocked down from the Zapaentse.
    The West sees this prospect, it sees it perfectly, which is why all publications of all these Gironimos will remain the voice of one crying in the desert - the West will not weaken the attack by any means - they simply have no other choice. There is only one way to stop the development center from moving eastward - to destroy those states where the center has gathered by war. Checked, it was already.
    All the thirties of the USSR grew by 6-7% per year, while in America there was a terrible crisis, which F. Roosevelt unsuccessfully fought. Europe was also in full anus, I apologize, there is simply no other designation for such a situation in Europe. The development center could easily move to the territory of the USSR. And you know how the West managed to solve this problem, whom it managed to set against the USSR. Then it was a tragedy, in case of repetition, I hope we laugh at their attempts.
  33. Dust
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    That’s how they are, but who took this Cohen or Jeronimo seriously in the West or is it taking? Yes, they are nobody and there is no way to call them ...
    Russia in general should be deeply do not care what is there and who writes there! Only their interests - do not care about the rest ...
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      Dust [/]
      Here I can’t disagree with you! But it’s nice anyway that they have sane heads
      Not all polls are lumpen and corrupt!
  34. Vlaleks48 April 11 2012 12: 28 New
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    Drummers hit! What is it about! And about whom?
    Those who are afraid of the West, those imperfections that leave our schools with the firm knowledge that their honey is sweeter there.
    Or the boys who couldn’t dazzle the shistyupizdyupyat, in the form of "Mudashkin."
    Who are afraid of, our elite with the VG headed by money holding in banks, and not in 3 liters, but in the "alpine gnomes".
    It's time to stop entertaining ourselves with the illusions that everything will be fine from May 7!
    God bless our wolf calf to eat!
    We constantly lose the information war!
    Whoever wins the media in his hands. And we have this FIFTH column!
  35. Ahmar
    Ahmar April 11 2012 12: 39 New
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    http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/commentaries/view/68464/

    Suppress universities. Course 2012
  36. korbdegree
    korbdegree April 11 2012 12: 41 New
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    That is, we have all the articles about America and the West, all completely honest and not politically biased. Especially on this resource, yeah. Himself not ashamed?
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      Quote: korbdegree
      That is, we have all the articles about America and the West, all completely honest and not politically biased. Especially on this resource, yeah. Himself not ashamed?

      exactly so, absolutely honest and unbiased. Moreover, our even critically sharpest article coolly embellishes unsightly Western reality. And you need not embellish, and write the truth.
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        korbdegree April 11 2012 14: 01 New
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        And then you can find out where you get such cool acid? But with 2C-B it sometimes breaks through to paranoia, but to be straight like that, until such a stable paranoid delirium, I haven’t seen this yet. Although nafig it probably must be ... Dudes, stop eating it, you have apparently completely lost the adequacy, if this comment is serious.
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          3581782 10 May 2012 12: 07 New
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          Here with 2C-B it breaks through to paranoia

          You can immediately see a great specialist.
      2. Arc76
        Arc76 April 12 2012 21: 49 New
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        But you yourself have been to the EU or America at least once. I would very much like to know your opinion of what you saw there. I go to Finland twice a month stably, I did not see any signs of unsightly reality.
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      korbdegree Not at all ashamed. It should be a shame to you, since you are wrong. To be honest, study materials on the 2nd world. the war will be on our side.
  37. Goldmitro April 11 2012 13: 15 New
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    << By the way, Russia will not be hindered by its Meru too ... >> This is definitely noticed! It’s not very small in Russia itself (and even in the government) who want to sing along in this Russophobic choir of the Western Philharmonic, all the more so as they PAY FOR IT!
    1. BMW
      BMW April 11 2012 15: 57 New
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      We have such - Zhirik. Yapping, yapping to stupidity - only he is on a short leash now, civilized has become.
      1. Pancho April 11 2012 18: 51 New
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        Zhirinovsky really helped my fellow countrymen from Emba-5 (this is in Kazakhstan) under Putin in 1999. There was a missile training ground, and in 1999 they gathered everyone together and said thanks and good bye. And people don’t have housing in Russia, so that's where they didn’t go all to no purpose and only V.V.Zhirinovsky helped. I tried the allocation of housing in the Ivanovo region, etc. Please respect the person for whom millions of our fellow citizens voted. By the way, the only one who raises the issue of infringement on the rights of Russians.
  38. Nechai
    Nechai April 11 2012 13: 16 New
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    "Gironimo declares that they are trying to make Putin look like a demonic person, because the West is simply not profitable to strengthen Russia."
    This is an old-time "fun" of the West. So it was and will be with any leader in the Eurasian space. What is Paul I, what is Stalin. One has only to pursue a policy in line with the exclusively interests of one’s own society, so immediately there is a "stumble" on the vital interests of the West, located oh, how far from the metropolises ....
    1. Horde
      Horde April 11 2012 17: 39 New
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      what is Stalin. One has only to pursue a policy in line with exclusively interests


      no need to compare Stalin and Putin, one rebuilt the country, the second ruined it.
      1. lewerlin53rus April 11 2012 18: 22 New
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        In fact, the country was destroyed by Gorbach and his comrades. (Like Shevardnadze) And EBN continued
        1. Horde
          Horde April 11 2012 22: 19 New
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          In fact, the country was destroyed by Gorbach and his comrades. (Like Shevardnadze) And EBN continued

          During Putin’s rule, due to prolonged non-financing, thousands of enterprises ceased to exist, the country shrank by millions of people.
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        Horde how old are you? you probably didn’t live in the 90s. and you don’t know who was falling apart. Thanks to Putin that he stopped this obscurantism (I was then almost killed just like that). that's why it’s just the article that the trolls are angry with him, that he saved the country, we can say. he immediately drove amers out of here. and then their beautiful smiles turned into a terrible grin (he personally saw it). Putin then in the early 2000s said that we walked along the razor's edge. and thanks to him they did not fall. when you say about the collapse, look at the recent past, look at history. the one that just ruined the country now comes out of bile, and for good reason, he knows that Russia needs Putin, and he is sucked out and hated by many. and I am grateful to the gdp for the fact that my family then got out of poverty and we, or rather the gdp can now tell the amers in person who they are and are not afraid.
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          thanks to Putin that he stopped this obscurantism

          Rather, legalized and legalized. Now all these bandits are deputies, oligarchs and very deeply respected people laughing
  39. Landwarrior April 11 2012 13: 53 New
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    In fact, it’s high time to adopt the old English proverb:
    "My country may not be right, but it is my country."
    And let them say anything .... wink
    The dog barks, the wind wears ...
  40. sky93
    sky93 April 11 2012 14: 12 New
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    and in Russia such a policy isn’t carried out? according to your politicians, there are only enemies around: the Americans with the British undermine your health as you say with vodka and beer, with Georgia swine flu, the Ukrainians have cheese with plastic and cholera from the Black Sea, the Finns have painted the monument to the heroes on their sovereign and an independent country ... and a lot of things. You see the crumbs in the eyes of others, although you do not notice the shaving in your own!
    1. Atlon
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      Go eat bacon ... Maybe it’s better! wink
    2. Reva3113
      Reva3113 April 11 2012 17: 13 New
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      dobavlu tibe + i paru slov tut vot po4ital v rasii rjadom s cerkvu i magilami gde zaxaraneni znamenitasti kak bagrationi na4elas stroika katoraja podvergaet snosu etix magil a delaut eto samije pravaslavnie svitei6ie gas tak skazem naplevat im na eti magili NO nekto shuma ne podimaet po etamu povadu v rasii a ras gruzija re6ila perenesti pametnik v pamjat o 2WW tak ani gruzin v luju stirat xiibiere perennibi et bag a vot duxovnie vladiki zastavjat evo perevernuca iz magili
      1. lewerlin53rus April 11 2012 18: 27 New
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        Look at yourself! What did the monument to the fallen soldiers and the burial place!
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          in kavo on yourself? I am Georgian, but about the monument, the porridge was cool because of him. but to see someone did not help them with Russia, but they could bring tanks here to the races so recent.
  41. Ty3uk
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    Article to Favorites!
    Many thanks to the author!
  42. AK-74-1 April 11 2012 14: 36 New
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    The article is excellent. Examples are given of generalizing importance. A comparison with McCarthyism is especially revealing.
    Comments are enviable. No other site has these. Even the "democratic-liberal opposition" is not visible.
    However, it is unfortunate that Russia does not have its own news service showing the decay of the "democratic west" and the mythological and ideological character of the "free" media.
  43. Wild
    Wild April 11 2012 15: 53 New
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    Let’s argue logically ... The article does not correspond to its title. About 90% of the text is more consistent with the title "For which the West takes revenge on Putin." Agree, it is about Russia that is not enough here.
    In my opinion, Putin does not need to be idialized. As a politician, he is clearly ambiguous ... I do not deny that he has done a lot for Russia. When he came to power, a country almost destroyed by the Yeltsin regime rolled into the hollow. Now it is much better. And now the country is still rising from its knees.
    But let's not forget that Putin is the successor to Yeltsin, whom everyone now hates. What did Berezovsky pay for him (also a very unpopular character). It was under Putin that the MIR station was drowned, with which 70% of intelligence came. And closed the radio interception station in Cuba, which received the remaining 30%. About trains - missiles taken out of service should not be forgotten either.
    Now directly about Russia ... The West does not take revenge on it at all. He just wants to destroy her. It doesn’t matter if we have the Monarchy, Democracy or Communism ...
    In any form, Russia is a bone in the throat for the West. They are afraid of the Slavs, despite the fact that we now have only 150 million left.
    As long as Russia exists, they will hate it.
    1. Ty3uk
      Ty3uk April 11 2012 17: 21 New
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      But let's not forget that Putin is the successor to Yeltsin, whom everyone now hates. What did Berezovsky pay for him (also a very unpopular character). It was under Putin that the MIR station was drowned, with which 70% of intelligence came. And closed the radio interception station in Cuba, which received the remaining 30%. About trains - missiles taken out of service should not be forgotten either.

      Well, how did the same thing get tired every day.
      Where did you hear this lies and delirium? In what garbage can they say? Just for the sake of curiosity I want to look there, look at the local inhabitants.
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        Wild April 11 2012 17: 40 New
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        And you, apparently, just don’t remember that? What year of birth are you, comrade? At the beginning of the two thousandth, they said so throughout Russia. And not only they said, it sounded from TV screens and from radio receivers. So what were you talking about trash?
        If anything, then these are just facts. Well, no lies and nonsense! Before you blame people for lies, understand what is true and what is not.
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          Quote: Wild
          Before you blame people for lies, understand what is true and what is not.

          Well, let's figure it out, but only on the condition that you show me the place where you draw this enchanting nonsense.

          Quote: Wild
          paid Putin the election company Berezovsky

          Lies. Sibneft participated in Putin's election campaign, but Berezovsky was only in it member of board of directors and had no control.

          Quote: Wild
          Putin was drowned MIR station, which received 70% of intelligence

          What a passage! WORLD has exhausted its resource and its further exploitation threatened disaster. 70% of intelligence from her - I don’t know at all what idiot the calculated nonsense is.

          Quote: Wild
          the radio interception station in Cuba was closed, with which the remaining 30% came.

          The station in Lourdes is an anachronism of the Cold War, all this intelligence. Information is now obtained by much simpler and cheaper methods.

          Quote: Wild
          About trains - missiles taken out of service should not be forgotten either.

          Decisions on BZHRK took EBN!
          1. Wild
            Wild April 11 2012 19: 10 New
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            Oh, I see you have expanded your knowledge of the history of our country! You can’t imagine how glad I am! That's just the impression that you are thirteen years old, and all the data you just took from the Internet has been preserved.
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            Well, let's figure it out, but only on the condition that you show me the place where you draw this enchanting nonsense.

            let's figure it out.
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            paid Putin the election company Berezovsky
            Lies. Sibneft participated in Putin's election campaign, but Berezovsky was only a member of the board of directors in it and had no control.

            It is not sad, but still paid Berezovsky. During the election campaign, Putin appeared several times in public TOGETHER WITH BEREZOVSKY. As I remember now, Putin was then still in a raspberry-colored jacket. They didn’t go by the arm, they wanted to show that they were best friends. But after the election, Putin abruptly cooled to his comrade, and sent him abroad. He also threatened that if he chatted, he would find his ice ax in London too.
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            Putin was drowned MIR station, which received 70% of intelligence
            What a passage! WORLD has exhausted its resource and its further exploitation threatened disaster. 70% of intelligence from her - I don’t know at all what idiot the calculated nonsense is.

            And I, by the way, did not insult you, and I count on reciprocity.
            Yes, the station was no longer new. She just worked perfectly, constantly unnerving the American authorities, who could not even calmly look at the sky, not recalling the ubiquitous WORLD. And, characteristically, they drowned it only after the corresponding note from Washington. And yet, what catastrophe did she threaten? Old satellites didn’t drown from us, many still hang out. tongue And about 70% I was told by a friend of the FSB. It may not be true, but the fact that the station was drowned after an order from America.
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            the radio interception station in Cuba was closed, with which the remaining 30% came.
            The station in Lourdes is an anachronism of the Cold War, all this intelligence. Information is now obtained by much simpler and cheaper methods.

            And this method is also inexpensive. And even if she could stand, at least as a sign that we are present in Cuba. And they removed it, by the way, after a statement from the states, so, they say, we are now friends and you are spying on us.
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            About trains - missiles taken out of service should not be forgotten either. Decisions on BZHRK made Humpbacked!

            I don’t know who took it, they just took them apart under Putin. And he could leave. In the event of war, this would increase our chances of victory.
            And about the fact that Putin is the receiver of Yeltsin, you probably have nothing to say.
            And I took all these materials from state television channels (all this was not considered shameful then), newspapers, magazines (also, by the way, official ones).
            Teach, teach history! A country that does not know its history is doomed!
            PS And why are you so annoyed when people express their opinions about Putin? Remember, only Christ was sinless, and the rest have sins behind their souls! And to listen to you, he is simply a saint! By the way, I just said that it is ambiguous, and already such a violent reaction.
            1. Ty3uk
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              Yes, I’m watching the lyrics, you should write stories, I’m only afraid that everything will turn out fantastic.

              Your fantasies about Berezovsky, Mir and the "inexpensive" station are unproven. Well, on BZHRK you got upside down in fat, because in your own words you showed your complete illiteracy in the matter under discussion.
              1. Wild
                Wild April 12 2012 12: 47 New
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                Actually, I really write. After the release of the book I will definitely send you a volume.
                Are yours proof? About the World, which hung in orbit and threatened with catastrophe lol ?
                And by the way, I did not get up in fat, I still sit on a chair. And in you, I finally became disappointed. The complexes were disposed of in 2003-2007, AT PUTIN!
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                Decisions on BZHRK made Humpbacked!
                but it’s just nothing to do with it. They were removed according to START-2 (1993).
                And you still didn’t answer why such a violent reaction due to the fact that I called Putin ambiguous?
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                  Ty3uk April 12 2012 13: 19 New
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                  When there is nothing to answer for your words, is the best way to demand an explanation from the opposite side, is it your way?

                  I started arguing with you, only on condition that you at least confirm your words (for example, links to information sources), but you continue to fantasize, what should I talk about next?

                  And don't quote what I didn't writeI wrote about Yeltsin!

                  Quote: Wild
                  And you still didn’t answer why such a violent reaction due to the fact that I called Putin ambiguous?

                  The reaction to your unsubstantiated lies, does this really need to be explained after everything written above? fool
                  1. Wild
                    Wild April 12 2012 13: 39 New
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                    I kind of answered all your questions, if you do not understand something, then re-read.
                    And I told you that at the beginning of the two thousandths they all showed it on state channels, not seeing anything shameful in the fact that we are losing one’s position to another. In order to see all this, to feel on your own skin the attitude of the authorities towards the people, you had to be born ten years earlier than you. And both of you and I know that “Hunchback” was first written, and then corrected to “EBN”. Link to the source of information about when the trains were dismantled http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C1%EE%E5%E2%EE%E9_%E6%E5%EB%E5%E7%ED%EE% E4% EE% F0% E
                    E%E6%ED%FB%E9_%F0%E0%EA%E5%F2%ED%FB%E9_%EA%EE%EC%EF%EB%E5%EA%F1
                    specially for you found. What else from what I said to you seems insufficiently reasoned? It seems that everything has already been chewed, except that I have not put it in my mouth.
                    1. rait 60
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                      Wild support put a plus. By the way I wanted to ask Putin's Labrador nickname is not Tuzik by chance?
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                        late April 23 2012 21: 29 New
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                        And what kind of skittles on your avatar do you have? lol
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                  late April 23 2012 21: 27 New
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                  Politics, I’m sure, is more complicated than a game of chess, where sometimes they sacrifice a pawn to take the queen, but the rules of the game are the same, the goal is the same check and checkmate. Personally, I look at what Putin did and I think- HE ARE ADEQUATE POLICY, unlike Yeltsin and Gorbachev and this is important!
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              And BURAN WHO DESTROYED YOU WILL NOT SAY, AA, WHICH BE SILENT AS A SHAME
  44. Opertak
    Opertak April 11 2012 16: 12 New
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    About the adequacy. Here's how US presidential candidate Romney publicly shows how he will work with Russia:
    1. pinachet April 11 2012 16: 39 New
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      Hitler, too, like eating a cake ... from the USSR
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        DO NOT COMPARE INCOMPARABLE
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      Wild April 11 2012 17: 50 New
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      Romney is an osteobic character in general ... I wonder if the Americans understand that if he comes to power, will the next round of the Cold War begin? And if it grows hot, then cockroaches will eventually win. They are not afraid of radiation wassat
    3. lewerlin53rus April 11 2012 18: 29 New
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      But the inversion of the intestines from too fatty foods will not happen? laughing
      1. 3581782
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        It will happen, guaranteed!
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      SO LIKE YOUR MONEY YOUR PU ALREADY TAKEN IT
  45. pinachet April 11 2012 16: 38 New
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    even if they don’t like and are afraid ... to hell with them, but the fifth column works with them for us ..
    look in the winter, then I almost bought on verbiage. can you imagine Nemtsov with Chirikova in power ?? ?? end 80s beginning 90s would seem like a fairy tale
  46. Svyatoslav
    Svyatoslav April 11 2012 17: 11 New
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    The West takes revenge on us for what we are.
  47. Sreben April 11 2012 18: 34 New
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    Russia is like a bone in the throat of amers! Live calmly and be friends with Russia, no, they don’t have everything and they’re climbing on the rampage until the Russian bear tears these mongrel apart!
  48. Karabin April 11 2012 19: 42 New
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    After being exposed by the journalist, Joseph McCarthy’s career rolled toward sunset.

    Well, I just can’t believe in this canoe, Joseph McCarthy seems to me to be fed up with the American authorities, and it was time to change the record with the spies.
    "Cohen and Gironimo will become the new Marow for the modern West" or rather urban madmen, who in the West appear from time to time, but they have an influence on public opinion in accordance with their status.
    Therefore, for the western man in the street, we will always be stupid mafiosi with a cross in all their belly and a communist party membership card supporting world evil.
    One must get used to this for a long time, and not pay attention to how they represent us there, but deal with internal problems, which are a dime a dozen.
  49. Evgeny B.
    Evgeny B. April 11 2012 20: 14 New
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    Forgive me for not having time to read all your comments - there is no time. But I can personally say that the West has developed an inferiority complex in relation to us. All their attempts to enslave us ended in their complete failure, and this for centuries !!! Naturally, they want, at all costs, to bend us into a ram’s horn. Their envy for us has no limit, therefore, they will fight to the end. They will never forgive us all of this. Therefore, we must go our own way, without looking back at them. The fact that their song is sung is visible to everyone. The fact that they have not yet bent is our fault. We constantly nourish them with our fresh blood, otherwise it would have been over for a long time. We need to create an internal market, we must be self-sufficient, we must be ideologized, not cosmopolitan, then the best people will work for us, not for them. Then we will rise above them and they will take an example from us, and not us from their homosexuals. We need to revive the Monarchy and Orthodoxy, which in the past allowed us to rise above all!
  50. lotus04
    lotus04 April 11 2012 20: 45 New
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    The dog barks, the wind carries.