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Riots in Iran provoked to start another war

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I remember the old, still of Soviet times anecdote, which went among the officers of the special services. When, at a meeting of Soviet and American intelligence in a bar in a neutral country, they began to brag about the successes of their own departments. And it turned out that Soviet intelligence still beat the American one. And then the American recalled Chile. "Do you remember how we are in Chile?" "In Chile? And when was that?" "In September, 1973-go" ... "Aah. So at that time we were on potatoes."


Riots in Iran provoked to start another war


Approximately the same situation is observed today. We, rejoicing in the New Year holidays and wishes, do not look around at all. The world seemed frozen in our eyes. The holiday is the same.

And the world lives. And, no matter how insulting it is to us, the activity is manifested in those places where we have some foreign policy successes. In particular in Iran.

It is no secret that today the political situation in the country hard rocking not only the local radicals, but already trite Western leaders and intelligence agencies subordinate to them. One should not even mention the one who is at the head of the whole gang of "fighters for the rights of people of their own choice." Anyone who is at least somehow familiar with the situation, it is clear that at the head of the "fighters", as always, the United States.

"The people of Iran are finally acting against the cruel and corrupt Iranian regime. All the money that President Obama so stupidly gave them went to the terrorists and into their pockets. And the people have little food, high inflation and lack of human rights. The United States is watching!" .

The words of President Trump are especially cynical after the fact that less than a year ago the people of Iran in the democratic elections, by the way recognized as such in the United States, elected Rouhani as president.

As one would expect, European politicians have already come out in support of the position of the American president. Like the UK premiere. I think that others will not give up the opportunity to once again "lick the great democracy" in one place. Alas, there are not so many states in the world today that can pursue an independent foreign policy.

Today it is necessary to consider the situation as a whole. Who and why destabilizes the region today. Sadly, the list of states that at least something can decide in the region is not so great. Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, partly Turkey. Plus, Russia and the United States on the Rights of the main winners of terrorism.

Iran today is spreading its influence in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. Other things being equal, it is these countries that today are in the sphere of interests of Iran. And for political and economic reasons. And it is these countries that today have become really dangerous for Tehran’s main rival, Israel.

Iraq after Iran’s increasing influence is internally torn. The Sunnis of the north-western territories are already openly talking about the possibility of a religious war in this country. This position, of course, supports Saudi Arabia. This country is the Sunni center of the region.

Sunnis cannot openly oppose Tehran for a number of reasons. But the "bite" on trifles are capable. It is clear that a year or two ago even to imagine such a situation was impossible. However, today we see that some of the young princes, in particular, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, speak directly about the need to overthrow the regime in Iran. Moreover, there are occasional accusations of Persian aggression.

And now it's time to look at the position of another player. Player, the fate and life of which depends largely on regional security. It’s a paradox, but Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is famous for his negative attitude towards Iran, is silent. Moreover, he even called on Israeli politicians to refrain from commenting on the situation in Tehran.

I do not know what it is. Political wisdom or foresight. But the fact that Netanyuhu understands perfectly well that the regime in Tehran will stand and turn the neck of all these protesters is obvious. As well as the fact that Iran can support the desire of some politicians and the military in Syria to return the Golan Heights in the event of a hostile position of Israel. Some analysts generally speak about the possibility of a sudden strike against Iran. Iran can become a big war detonator.

Israelis are always forced to take into account the possibility of war. But if earlier, before the Syrian events, the situation was more or less predictable, today it is not favorable enough for Tel Aviv. It's not even the armies of Syria and Iran. The point is to change the overall situation in the region. Who can predict the actions of Turkey and Russia in the event of a war? Will the US get involved openly in a war? How will NATO behave? Unanswered questions ...

However, Israel still has politicians who agree to risk their own security and even the security of their country for the sake of regime change in Tehran. Despite the recommendations of the Prime Minister, the Minister of Regional Cooperation, Tsakhi Hanegbi, said that the unrest in the neighboring country was organized by those who "bravely risk their lives in pursuit of freedom."

As you can see, the new year not only did not ease the tension in the region, but, conversely, increased the danger of the beginning of a military conflict. Those who finance and support the unrest in Tehran do not really want peace. And they consider war as the only way to preserve their own influence on regional states. Divide and rule. The ancient, but still working principle of politicians.

Supporters of war are often called hawks in the media. My attitude towards such politicians as a fingerboard is becoming more and more enhanced. Or hyenas and jackals. Let the eagles fight. Let the wolves fight. Let the lions fight. And the fruits of this fight will be enjoyed by hyenas, jackals and vultures. World run by scavengers ...
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  1. dSK
    dSK 4 January 2018 06: 05
    14
    "The commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), General Mohammad Ali Jaafari, has declared that the unrest in the cities of the Islamic Republic is over. This is stated in a statement issued by the Fars agency on Wednesday." Our enemies should know - military threats or security threats against Iran will not work, "Jaafari said. According to him, today Iran can announce the end of unrest in the country and the defeat of the rebellion." (Tsargrad TV Channel 04: 00., 04.01.18/XNUMX/XNUMX)
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 4 January 2018 10: 52
      10
      Actually, no one is considering the option that these riots were raised by the people themselves. And about the end of the riots, the general oh hastened.
      1. karabas-barabas
        karabas-barabas 4 January 2018 15: 05
        10
        What are you, what kind of people, they said, the radicals, terrorists and the State Department’s hirelings are muddying all the water! And the people of Iran live richly and happily and don’t see any reason for any protests .. Something is happening in Iran now, but instead of informing people, they start to suck out their conspiracy theories and post ..
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 4 January 2018 23: 39
          +3
          Quote: karabas-barabas
          And the people of Iran live richly and happily, and of course they see no reason for any protests ..

          Apparently, the people of Ukraine live even richer - because they have no excitement, and there are no reasons for protest either?
          Quote: karabas-barabas
          they begin to suck out incomprehensibly from what their conspiracy theories and post ..

          If you have a persecution mania, this does not mean that you are not being persecuted.
          1. karabas-barabas
            karabas-barabas 5 January 2018 03: 25
            +6
            Quote: KaPToC
            Apparently, the people of Ukraine live even richer - because they have no excitement, and there are no reasons for protest either?


            Come on? And there was no Maidan? What do you want to say?

            Quote: KaPToC
            If you have a persecution mania, this does not mean that you are not being persecuted.


            Again, with some riddles, say ... Like it all just looks like nonsense and empty idle talk, but in fact, does this have a deep meaning? No, of course, it is simply impossible for Russians to think that people are capable of protest, if something does not suit them, Russians should think that power is sacred, and everyone who is dissatisfied with it is hired by the State Department, the fifth column, and so on.
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 5 January 2018 07: 56
              +2
              Quote: karabas-barabas
              Come on? And there was no Maidan? What do you want to say?

              However, several years after the Maidan, with a total impoverishment of the people, no Maidan is observed, and all because the State Department does not pay for it.
              Quote: karabas-barabas
              Say some riddles again ...

              What riddles are there! If you (for example) are crazy because of the struggle against a world conspiracy - this does not mean that there is no such conspiracy.
        2. astronom1973n
          astronom1973n 5 January 2018 06: 08
          +8
          But they will go out into the streets, arrange unrest, destroy everything, change their power and ... live the next day richly get rich !!! and the poor are rich. Do you believe in fairy tales?
          1. Alex20042004
            Alex20042004 7 January 2018 11: 47
            0
            Well yes. The United States and K are the most democratic and free states in the whole world.
      2. flicker
        flicker 4 January 2018 23: 08
        +2
        Why did you get up right now (sort of under sanctions a long time ago, sort of used to it)?
        And here the protesters (showing unprecedented humanity and love for the Iranian people) were supported by the USA, Israel, Great Britain, but at the same time, why didn’t the sanctions be lifted from Iran?
        1. karabas-barabas
          karabas-barabas 5 January 2018 03: 35
          +3
          Sanctions in the case of Iran and Russia, against the state in the person of government, financial system, industry, and not the Iranian or Russian people.
          1. domokl
            5 January 2018 05: 06
            +7
            Quote: karabas-barabas
            Sanctions in the case of Iran and Russia, against the state in the person of government, financial system, industry, and not the Iranian or Russian people.

            More stupid teziz not read quite a while. It turns out that this power is now bad, and people are eating fat? Of course. The oligarch became much worse because the capitalization of his business from 10 billion fell to 9 ... And the worker doesn't care that he gets 40 instead of 20 thousand ...
            1. karabas-barabas
              karabas-barabas 6 January 2018 17: 57
              +3
              Oh, this is the State Department for years did not allow Putin to establish an economy, to make industry competitive ??? You are smart, our salaries have collapsed along with oil prices, as a result of which the ruble has fallen and these prices, oil, as well as in other oil-producing countries have fallen. Would you like to say that the State Department arranged it ?? And the rise in prices was provoked, among other things, by Putin's "counter-sanctions", a ban on the import of food. And the oligarchs, of course, made problems in the West, they lost billions, as it were ..., but Putin reimbursed them, or will reimburse them, as it was in the 2008s, when the Deripaska and Co. made dozens of greens of lard on swaps and derivatives, chasing 20% profit. So the sanctions did not concern just the people in order to ruin their lives, today's problems are homegrown, the result of the country's rule.
          2. Looking for
            Looking for 7 January 2018 15: 45
            0
            Because not the people, but the government in power determines the direction of the country's development.
      3. katana
        katana 5 January 2018 13: 21
        +3
        On January 8, 1978, the Shah’s troops shot a demonstration of students of the madrasah, supporters of Ayatollah Khomeini, in the holy city of Kum. The funeral of the victims resulted in new executions, which led to even more mass protests. The traditional culture of the Iranians is connected with the cult of martyrdom characteristic of the Shiite version of Islam. If blood was shed for the idea, then the idea is worthwhile, fair.
        By the end of 1978, Iran was paralyzed by political strikes, and the soldiers fought with the demonstrators. A year and eight days after the first blood was shed, on January 16, 1979, a desperate shah fled the country.
        The current regime has not only repeated, but already surpassed all the mistakes of the shah’s regime: corruption, poverty, property stratification, repression, terror of the political police. Now the ayatoloi launched the same flywheel that destroyed the throne’s throne.
        At the last round of history, it took a year and eight days. The first eight days of a new round have already passed. Most likely, in the age of the Internet and fixing all cameras, the remaining period of time will be much less than a year.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 5 January 2018 21: 21
          +7
          "The Iranian traditional culture is associated with the cult of martyrdom, characteristic of the Shiite version of Islam."
          The traditional culture of the Iranians has nothing to do with Islam, it is much older, if that.
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 4 January 2018 12: 17
      20
      "In Iran, another attempt was made" color revolution "
      Stop seeing someone’s hand in every manifestation of popular discontent! Have you ever been to Iran? Do you know the needs and aspirations of the people? What problems do they have, you know? Iran has a very strict dictatorship; all free thought is suppressed in the bud. The mullah council decides to whom it is possible to run for election to some elected body, and to whom not. National minorities are deprived of any right to study in their native language ... You can continue for a long time! If the Persians are against the United States, this does not mean that they are someone else and they are white and fluffy! If the people are protesting, then there are reasons for that! And very good, it’s not the first time they are rising!
      1. Hoc vince
        Hoc vince 4 January 2018 13: 43
        +9
        "According to recent reports, about 500 of the most aggressive protesters have been detained in Iran. A significant part of them are citizens of Europe and the USA, or Iranians who lived in Europe or the USA for a long time before the protests."
        They came specially to organize protests.
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 4 January 2018 14: 34
          +2
          It was nice if they arranged an indicative punishment for saboteurs at least in Iran.

          We also have many ex.

          With one such saying, everyone lamented about the new law prohibiting the sale of children in the United States.

          By the way, she is Jewish. Her parents left for the USA in the 90s.
        2. Olezhek
          Olezhek 5 January 2018 17: 36
          +1
          "According to the latest data, about 500 of the most aggressive protesters were detained in Iran. A significant part of them are citizens of Europe and the United States, or Iranians who


          Dak waste technology - delivery of "organized protesters"
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 4 January 2018 14: 27
        12
        Oh yes sho you gutar us? wassat laughing . And how about “take an example from civilized countries?” What country is the most civilized - “pranally Uncle Fedor” (s), the USA, and how does the USA come from discontent

        here's another

        and more
      3. Mih1974
        Mih1974 4 January 2018 14: 28
        13
        So SO can be done with discontent? Can I add overclocking examples here? discontent in Ferguson or is it going to be too bloody and not "tolerant"? lol
        1. karabas-barabas
          karabas-barabas 4 January 2018 15: 10
          +5
          And what, in the USA, people get long-term terms for VKontakte posts, catch Pokémon and solitary pickets? In addition to the unfortunate episode with pepper spray in the student’s face, you can’t find anything else, it's a little liquid.
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 4 January 2018 15: 18
            +8
            Oh yes please

            experts will confirm - such a blow guarantees a fracture of the limb
            https://s14.stc.all.kpcdn.net/share/i/3/2742694/ (звиняйте, перейдите сами, картинка не прогружается)
            oh, why are they armed as a special army to break through well-reinforced positions on the streets of seemingly peaceful cities against this, if I am not mistaken, a young unarmed girl is standing?

            hmm, what a “humane expression” of the face of a policeman with a weapon in her hands aiming at the OUTDOOR people am
            Do you find it even bloodier? laughing
            1. karabas-barabas
              karabas-barabas 5 January 2018 03: 32
              +5
              You show me political prisoners, as in Russia. People who are given several years of strict regime for rallies against the government, for reposts in social networks and other "offenses." And pictures not just “humane facial expressions”, but beatings of peaceful demonstrators from Russia can be found an order of magnitude more.
              1. domokl
                5 January 2018 05: 09
                +1
                Quote: karabas-barabas
                You show me political prisoners,

                Do you really think those who illegally, I repeat, violating the laws of the country, organize protests by political prisoners? I would look at such meetings in your country. Or in the USA. And how many of these organizers would be packed in paddy jacks or sent to the hospital with rubber bullets and gas. Americans have repeatedly shown how this is done in their country
              2. Mih1974
                Mih1974 5 January 2018 08: 35
                +1
                So you want to measure "watered by prisoners" - easily, "what is your evidence?" laughing
                And here are the mattresses for you - Konstantin Vladimirovich Yaroshenko, was kidnapped by the Gestapo of the USA and is kept in fanatic conditions without a fair trial !!
                Victor Anatolyevich Bout - abducted by the Gestapo, "for words spoken in his presence by FBI agents." am kept in fanatic conditions without a fair trial !!
                Prisoners of Guantanomo - for years WITHOUT COURT and investigation they have been kept in savage conditions, they have "tortured" legally !!
                What else will you make ****** goats in your defense? am
              3. Pivot
                Pivot 6 January 2018 23: 39
                0
                And who in Russia sits for reposts ??? Maybe there’s something else for that, more serious, but what kind of reposts do you attract by ears here? I really didn’t hear about the article and the UKRF “for reposts” or you know better from Germany, you know Russian legislation there better.
          2. astronom1973n
            astronom1973n 5 January 2018 06: 10
            +1
            Student-learn science or else why study? Dumb doctors and teachers are enough. Need smart and intelligent.
      4. Lexus
        Lexus 4 January 2018 15: 07
        +4
        Do you know the needs and aspirations of the people?

        If Iran undertakes to solve the problems of one "people" according to the 1988 Sumgayit scenario, then in transit through its historical homeland a crowd of offenders will rush to Russia. And here there are more of them than on the Caspian coast. They do not bring any benefit, they feed corny, and at the same time Russia is being fooled.
        1. Gorbatiy
          Gorbatiy 7 January 2018 06: 34
          +1
          I see an Armenian in a telescope!
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 7 January 2018 12: 29
            +2
            Your telescope seems to be fogging up. Just before, we all lived in one large multinational country. Together they broke the ridge of fascism, built a peaceful life, developed the atom, mastered space. Successfully competed with a country whose flag flaunts at your nickname. And then there was an excellent education.
            1. Gorbatiy
              Gorbatiy 12 January 2018 06: 59
              0
              Well, and you see, they did not let the vanquished flag of fascism fall - they seized it on the fly.

              What was not saved and destroyed, and now you are looking for the guilty one? Traitors and traitors!
      5. GAF
        GAF 4 January 2018 16: 28
        +4
        [quote = xetai9977] Stop seeing someone’s hand in every manifestation of popular discontent! Have you ever been to Iran? Do you know the needs and aspirations of the people? What problems do they have, you know? In Iran, a very strict dictatorship, all free thought is suppressed in the bud. [/ Quote]
        It remains to take your word for it. Apparently been to Iran. But we have a complete order. You can show the bare ass in theaters on the stage to the audience, and in the Bolshoi, an outstanding member of Nuriev. Freedom is full, and our people do not protest.
        [quote = xetai9977] "If the people are protesting, then there are reasons for that! And they are very good, it’s not the first time they have been raised!"
        And what our belolentochniki lacks is that they buzz not the first time, but constantly. Or they are not people.
        1. Assyrian
          Assyrian 4 January 2018 19: 16
          0
          [quote = GAF] And what is missing for our belolentochniks is that they buzz not the first time, but constantly. Or they are not people. [/ Quote
          Good physical work, in the fresh air!
          For example: - working with an ax at a logging site beyond the Urals, working with a shovel or with a wheelbarrow when laying another channel (such as the Volga-Pacific Ocean), again with a shovel with a pick and a wheelbarrow at the construction of a railway connecting the BAM and the Laptev Sea, well, etc. d.
          Good me?
          I forgot to say. The people, those who work on the combine, at the machine, at the construction site, at the easel (too). In general, the keyword injects.
      6. flicker
        flicker 4 January 2018 22: 59
        +2
        And what percentage of the total number of Iranians came out to protest?
        Or is it not important?
      7. Nikolay Fedorov
        Nikolay Fedorov 5 January 2018 11: 39
        +4
        Quote: xetai9977
        ... Stop seeing someone’s hand in every manifestation of popular discontent! Have you ever been to Iran? Do you know the needs and aspirations of the people? What problems do they have, you know? Iran has a very harsh dictatorship, all free thought is stopped in the bud ...

        Drive to Saudi Arabia immediately! yes What problems do they have, you know? In Saudi Arabia, a very strict dictatorship, all free thought is stopped in the bud ... According to the Sharia court, unfaithful women are stoned! Pe, excuse me, gays are thrown off the wall, and if survived, they are stoned! Oh God!!! angry Where are the people of Europe and America looking ?! After all, it is necessary to help the people moaning under the yoke of the bloodthirsty king Salman bin Abdel Aziz Al Saud. Yes, they (the general people of Europe and America) would help the Saudis, of course, but - it IS IMPOSSIBLE! belay After all, the American president himself danced with this bloody king recently. love And then who will finance international terrorists (the "Syrian opposition") to overthrow Bashar al-Assad, who is hated throughout the West? request
      8. Pivot
        Pivot 6 January 2018 16: 00
        0
        But in Azerbaijan, in another way? In the East and Asia they will never live like Europe, so do not; rear wheel drive patterns are to be thrown on them.
  2. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 4 January 2018 06: 13
    15
    I think Iran, in the event of an internal threat, will toughly deal with "troublemakers", without regard to the West.
  3. Odysseus
    Odysseus 4 January 2018 07: 32
    10
    In Iran, there really has been another attempt at a “color revolution” with generic characteristics characteristic of it.
    1) The absence of a political subject of struggle (which is characteristic of a real "classical" revolution), as, for example, the Bolshevik party in our 17th, well, etc. This leads to the fact that such a revolution is completely lacking creative a political project, no matter what kind of socialist, bourgeois, any. But on the other hand, it is very difficult to fight such a color revolution since there is no "center" that could be hit, the process control is networked rather than hierarchical.
    2) The absence of a clearly expressed social subject of struggle. That is, it is not the bourgeoisie against the aristocracy, or the proletariat against the bourgeoisie, but the struggle is carried out with the help of crowd formation from different sectors of society that are connected only by momentary slogans "against."
    3) There are used contradictions or a split at the top of society, while some of the "elites" act as temporary fellow travelers of the demonstrators.
    4) Demonstrators receive external support from the "world center of power", that is, from the West.
    Fortunately, Iran is not Ukraine, but a much more stable and powerful state, destroying it by the USA / Israel, despite all their desperate attempts, is much more difficult. However, it should be recognized that Iran missed this attack, the attempted rebellion was unexpected and was not stopped, which led to a severe crisis.
    The essence of the issue is that in addition to external pressure in Iran, there are acute internal contradictions that cannot be resolved by simple references to the "machinations of enemies." Then they themselves must solve them.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 4 January 2018 10: 22
      11
      But don’t you consider the option of just a popular rebellion? As far as I hear, people live very poorly there, and the Iranian leadership spends a lot of money on supporting Shiites in Syria, Yemen and Iraq. And besides, the stream of coffins of the killed "volunteers", back hardens people hi
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 4 January 2018 13: 20
        +7
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        But don’t you consider the option of just a popular rebellion?

        Social protest in the modern world is structured, and even if it takes the form of rebellion (that is, the movement has no parties, leaders or other organizing force), then the rebels quickly develop their demands on a positive agenda, and ideally, the bodies that express these demands .. The reason is that their protest is positive and aimed at some important goals for them. For example, the movement against the monetization of benefits in Russia in 2005.
        Here you can’t see any attempts to develop social requirements, or even just some common agenda. Although with modern communication technologies, this is not difficult to do.
        But one can see the desire to immediately move to unmotivated violence and the unification of diverse forces under the "simple slogan" - against Khamenei.
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        And besides, the stream of coffins of the killed "volunteers", back hardens people

        There is such a factor, but it is insignificant, and most of the dead are not actually Iranians, but emigrants to Iran from Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Iranians themselves are small.
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        As far as I heard people live there very poorly,

        What does "very poor" mean Compared to what? For example, the minimum wage in Iran is much higher than in Russia http://www.ng.ru/economics/2017-07-31/4_7040_mrot
        .html
        And this despite the fact that Iran is a paternalistic country, that is, a significant part of the material resources is distributed on a preferential / free basis. Moreover, the protests (if you still try to identify the social profile in this heterogeneous crowd) are far from being the poorest Iranians who coordinate via Telegram.
        Another thing is that social problems do exist there, these are the consequences of Western sanctions and the liberal reforms of the current government and the inability of the government to provide all young people (and there are many of them) with those jobs that meet their expectations.
        An active foreign policy against the backdrop of social problems also does not contribute to the popularity of the authorities. Here, the Iranian authorities were not able to correctly submit this foreign policy within the country.
        These are objective problems that were used by opponents of the Iranian authorities.
        1. karabas-barabas
          karabas-barabas 4 January 2018 15: 31
          +7
          Color revolutions, agents of the State Department, etc. Mura .., Do you know at least one Persian? All your nonsense about agents of the State Department and delusional theories about color revolutions organized by them, it’s just disrespect for those few brave people who dare to say something to the authoritarian authorities and die. What tries are immigrants, for whom is this nonsense intended? The people are not only made up of power blanks and sheep in the stall. So do not fool people with all sorts of rubbish, it’s better to take an interest in Iran’s problems, the reasons for the protest.
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 4 January 2018 16: 06
            10
            Quote: karabas-barabas
            All your nonsense about State Department agents and delusional theories about color revolutions organized by them, it’s just disrespect for those few brave people who dare to say something to authoritarian authorities and die

            What an enchanting explosion fart. Right up to Mars, you can fly away.
            A white acacia flower of emigration licks to the Western Master in the hope that the host will notice the otliz and the market value of his life that no one needs will increase.
            However, in vain you try, with such, excuse me for the truth, a degenerative level, no one will pay attention to you. Not in Russia to which you are trying to broadcast your propaganda, nor in the West.
            And even your hysteria will not make any impression on me. I do not serve slaves.
            1. karabas-barabas
              karabas-barabas 5 January 2018 03: 20
              +3
              What is the matter with you at all, where are you, the storyteller-propagandist, have I seen some kind of propaganda ??)) You simply simply fool people with their nonsense, which has nothing to do with reality. They won’t pay attention to me .., I didn’t have such goals, but you seem to be in any way. I don’t even know what’s worse, that you believe in your own nonsense, or are involved in manipulating public opinion, which has long been known to all structures.
              1. Nikolay Fedorov
                Nikolay Fedorov 5 January 2018 11: 51
                +2
                Quote: karabas-barabas
                What is the matter with you at all, where are you, the storyteller-propagandist, have I seen some kind of propaganda ??)) You simply simply fool people with their nonsense, which has nothing to do with reality. They won’t pay attention to me .., I didn’t have such goals, but you seem to be in any way. I don’t even know what’s worse, that you believe in your own nonsense, or are involved in manipulating public opinion, which has long been known to all structures.

                Your problem is that you are lost. You do not need to sit on this site. This is not your content, not your circle of users. You need to go to your own - on liberal Russophobic sites. There you will be comfortable, always comfortable among your own. And since you are here, then you either got lost or you have such a job.
          2. KaPToC
            KaPToC 4 January 2018 23: 46
            +3
            Quote: karabas-barabas
            Color revolutions, agents of the State Department, etc. Mura .., Do you know at least one Persian? All your nonsense about agents of the State Department and delusional theories about color revolutions organized by them, it’s just disrespect for those few brave people who dare to say something to the authoritarian authorities and die. What tries are immigrants, for whom is this nonsense intended? The people are not only made up of power blanks and sheep in the stall. So do not fool people with all sorts of rubbish, it’s better to take an interest in Iran’s problems, the reasons for the protest.

            Stop hysteria, your overseas owners will not hear your scream.
          3. Said
            Said 7 January 2018 06: 18
            +1
            Dear, excuse me, what motivates you to call pro-government representatives of the people proshmandovki? If the power is chosen by the very people, it follows that both the power and the people and the country itself, with all its attributes, are breeches, sheep? You, sorry judging by the flag, represent a country that unleashed 2 world? And be so kind as to remind people how many lives in which countries were interrupted as a result of these events? And now, summarizing you with the country according to your own methodology, I can ask the wise one whether he has the right to look in the eyes or even think about other peoples and countries in some other aspect, if not excusable?
      2. iouris
        iouris 5 January 2018 00: 53
        +1
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        But don’t you consider the option of just a popular rebellion? As far as I heard the people live there very poorly, and the Iranian leadership

        Are you "For" the "popular rebellion" in your country, say in a month or two, you will have time to prepare? I'm against". And then, “What” you heard: ringing from someone's belfry. I guess with whose.
  4. svp67
    svp67 4 January 2018 07: 45
    +2
    . And, no matter how offensive it is to us, activity is manifested in those places where we have gained some foreign policy successes. In particular, in Iran.
    If someone believes that power in Iran will fall, then he is cruelly mistaken. When this of course can happen, it will even happen, but not today. The Iranian authorities have enough forces and means to prevent this. The main thing is that they have political will. But what you need to pay great attention to is who is now the main force of protest, and these are young people aged 16 and over. It is time for our leadership to do the same very closely to pay attention to them and deal with them. And finally ask the Ministry of Youth about the effectiveness of the spent public funds. And it turns out that the Ministry of Defense is more interested and does in this direction, although this is far from its profile.
    1. Lex.
      Lex. 4 January 2018 08: 33
      +2
      All protests start with social networks Facebook um, look at Rambler, they’ll go to the branch, there should be censorship, I don’t think there is something like that in the United States
  5. Professor
    Professor 4 January 2018 07: 46
    21
    And now it's time to look at the position of another player. Player, the fate and life of which depends largely on regional security. It’s a paradox, but Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is famous for his negative attitude towards Iran, is silent. Moreover, he even called on Israeli politicians to refrain from commenting on the situation in Tehran.

    I have already ceased to be surprised when the mediocre leaders of a country with colossal hydrocarbon reserves bring the economy to ruin, drive people into poverty, and when this very people takes to the streets and says “Dosel”, these leaders ALWAYS blame external forces for “trying to build up our stability”. So it was in Venezuela where there is already a real famine, so it is now happening in Iran.
    Hey Persians. First look at how your own people live, and only then look for the perpetrators abroad. The sanctions were lifted from you, and your prices are rising every day. What is being asked? Where is the money, Zin?

    Those who finance and support the riots in Tehran really do not want peace.

    Of course, how can the Iranians themselves suddenly become outraged by hopelessness?

    And it would be possible not to write an article compiled from a cliche, but to make a balanced analysis. For example, write what protesters want. What is their social profile. Minus article? negative
    1. avt
      avt 4 January 2018 10: 32
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      Of course, how can the Iranians themselves suddenly become outraged by hopelessness?

      They can, especially when they fall into grandmothers in a “pyramid.” Actually, we traveled with MMM in Russia and even these suckers threw Mavrodi to the Duma’s grandmother as a deputy as a deputy. But then the EBN was satisfied with everything and didn’t muddle everyone - they got puffed and broke up .This is to the question
      Quote: Professor
      What is their social profile.

      Well, and who specifically downloaded them on social networks is not the site, ask your specialists, well, at least those who track these networks. However, something else is interesting - they obviously tried to swing some sort of .... ,, saffron spring, "and yours, USs, or Sauds, do not matter. The main thing is that despite the type of ,, liberal" ,,, pro-Western "government in Iran, Gorbi is clearly not there in power. An Iranian Tien An rally was staged. A mass rally followed in support of the government. How will it all end? Well, only when everyone dies, only then the Big Game will end. "
      1. Professor
        Professor 4 January 2018 11: 11
        14
        Quote: avt
        They can, especially when they fall into grandmothers in a “pyramid.” Actually, we traveled with MMM in Russia and even these suckers threw Mavrodi to the Duma’s grandmother as a deputy as a deputy. But then the EBN was satisfied with everything and didn’t muddle everyone - they got puffed and broke up .This is to the question

        However, how many words you wrote, but not a single one about the real economic situation of Iranian youth.

        Quote: avt
        Well, who specifically rocked them in social networks

        You are just like children. Well, try to "swing" Israel in social networks. Nothing will work out for you since we decide our fate in the elections and go to the demonstrations almost weekly. And the funny thing is no one blames foreign intelligence agencies for organizing demonstrations. Once again: untalented leaders are ALWAYS to blame for external forces.
        1. flicker
          flicker 4 January 2018 12: 39
          +5
          "... we decide our fate in the elections ..."
          lol Yeah! In the elections, the American elite decides your fate. The trouble with Israel is that it is not sovereign. The joy of Israel is that the one who controls it appreciates it, it is true that it appreciates it ... and when the time comes it will throw it into the furnace of war for its interests. Do not go to the grandmother.
        2. avt
          avt 4 January 2018 12: 53
          +6
          Quote: Professor
          Well, try to "swing" Israel in social networks.

          bully What for ? Do we need it ?? wassat Well, yours solve their internal political issues and changes of government under the carpet quietly and calmly, but no less harshly. When you need to quench what kind of politician, include the topic of rape by a “subordinate, you can again heal in the hospital yes coma, even if your hero of the war is Bulldozer”, or even just, well, without any kind of insane, which shoots you all the way. Well, after burning the whole nation and burying it magnificently. Nothing is new under the moon. There is no need ... neither big nor small, to rock Israel by analogy with the Arab Spring, that's just not all. Even the most democratically stressed and orthodox people clearly know that they will be crushed within the framework of the law. Isn’t it? The Orthodox weren’t cooled down with police water cannons from you? bully
        3. vadsonen
          vadsonen 4 January 2018 19: 10
          +7
          Once again: untalented leaders are ALWAYS to blame for external forces.

          So in Russia, all the troubles are also from the State Department and Trump (Abama, Bush, etc.). They even dig holes on the roads at night.
          1. CT-55_11-9009
            CT-55_11-9009 6 January 2018 23: 24
            +1
            Quote: vadsonen
            They even dig holes on the roads at night.

            Nah, the holes on the roads of Russia were long before the creation of the United States, so it’s definitely not their business. It is the Jews who are probably digging up gravel in order to sell them to the same Bridgebuilders ...
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 4 January 2018 11: 11
      +8
      That's right. Comrade. Professor .. Anything that hints at Israel is ban or negative
      But seriously.? .
      The Persians as a result of the war in Syria won the most and strengthened their positions in the BV. They become the leading regional power, without whose opinion no issue will be resolved in that region
      Iran is building a permanent military base in Syria, 14 kilometers south of Damascus and 50 kilometers from the border with Israel, reports the BBC ..
      For the first time, the presence of Iranian military units in Syria allowed Iran to enter the Mediterranean. Now it is necessary to prepare the Tsakhal for other forms of command of the armed struggle and with a more serious enemy
      A statement by the President of the United States on the transfer of the US Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem .. without concrete action only provoked peace against this idea .. As the vote at the UN General Assembly confirmed. Despite the threats from American officials
      And just then the poor in Iran remembered their poverty. wink
    3. Mih1974
      Mih1974 4 January 2018 14: 33
      +5
      Oh shaw really? belay laughing But what about the "poor" country of the SGA with large reserves of oil and gas has reached OkupaiOlstrit and riots in Ferguson? This is the last, and although I will find you with a dozen more in their history. So stick your lies - in mmmm, well, you yourself have understood where you should put it to yourself. am
    4. dSK
      dSK 4 January 2018 18: 00
      +3
      Hello Oleg Sokolov!
      Quote: Professor
      look for the perpetrators abroad
      Who in Russia did you study for? To a lawyer? "Iranian police on Wednesday detained one of the main organizers of the unrest in the country, which turned out to be a citizen of an EU state not yet named. What was the surprise of the law enforcement officers when it turned out that not a local resident, but an EU citizen was worrying about the fate of his homeland. He participated in anti-government rallies and was one of the "start-ups." He was detained during a rally in Borudjerd County in the west of the country. "(Channel "Tsargrad" 16: 32., 04.01.18/XNUMX/XNUMX)
      1. Professor
        Professor 4 January 2018 18: 21
        +3
        Quote: dsk
        Hello Oleg Sokolov!

        And you do not praise.

        Quote: dsk
        Who in Russia did you study for? To a lawyer?

        Not in Russia, but in the USSR, and not as a lawyer, but as an engineer. From law courses taught only the Law of the Sea.

        Quote: dsk
        "Iranian police on Wednesday detained one of the main organizers of the unrest in the country, which turned out to be a citizen of an EU state not yet named.

        Not the organizers, but the organization’s suspect. Is not it? The presence of dual citizenship of the detainee does not mean anything.
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 4 January 2018 23: 52
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          The presence of dual citizenship of the detainee does not mean anything.

          But hints at a lot.
  6. Strashila
    Strashila 4 January 2018 08: 11
    +4
    Nothing new ... USA always supports its agents.
    1. Lex.
      Lex. 4 January 2018 08: 27
      +4
      And not only the United States, all countries do this
      1. Strashila
        Strashila 4 January 2018 08: 35
        +2
        But only with the support of the United States, there are always agents who have died ... among agents, this is such a pattern.
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 4 January 2018 11: 21
      +1
      Yves of failure go according to the proven scheme (nothing new)

      US Permanent Representative to the UN Nikki Haley. We will convene emergency sessions in New York and the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva, Haley said. According to Haley, meetings will be convened in the coming days.

      According to the spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, Washington has extensive experience in breaking up protests Hailey will tell how Ferguson was “cleaned up”


      “Senator Alexei Pushkov on his Twitter page
      Haley was all concerned with peace and security in Syria, now worried about peace, security and freedom in Iran. ” Pushkov: "Peace and Security in Iran" for the United States means a regime change
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 4 January 2018 08: 45
    +7
    The author’s note is the regime, and even more so the dictatorship in the United States, or the ukroin, and in Iran, the lawfully elected president!
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 4 January 2018 13: 25
      +5
      Quote: Herkulesich
      The author’s note is the regime, and even more so the dictatorship in the United States, or the ukroin, and in Iran, the lawfully elected president!

      And you note that in Iran there was a revolution after which a chain of current presidents appeared.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 4 January 2018 14: 38
        +7
        Shaw really belay And why isn’t the “representative of Her Majesty the Queen” the head of the USA? Oh - there was also a REVOLUTION, it is necessary, but it was the Right REVOLUTION, right? Well, of course, in all other countries, any revolution is not under the leadership and interests of the United States - this is NOT a correct and even dictatorial revolution. am So - sit quietly on your piece of the desert - and you will be happy. good
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 4 January 2018 21: 23
          +1
          Quote: Mih1974
          Well, of course, in all other countries, any revolution is not under the leadership and interests of the United States - this is NOT a correct and even dictatorial revolution.


          coups, poisoned kings, kings, princes crowns, etc., took place in all countries.
          therefore, it is not necessary to breed demagogy about the "legally elected presidents." everyone has the same legal.
          whoever takes it and has it, so in nature everything works.
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 4 January 2018 23: 57
            +2
            Quote: Maki Avellievich
            coups, poisoned kings, kings, princes crowns, etc., took place in all countries.

            And the representatives of your people have always paid for them, but will they pay the same in Israel? Apparently there is no more unscrupulous people than Jews in the world.
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 5 January 2018 10: 36
              +2
              Quote: KaPToC
              And always they were paid by representatives of your people


              word always This is a very important tool in the hands of a demagogue and provocateur.
              1. KaPToC
                KaPToC 5 January 2018 11: 18
                0
                Quote: Maki Avellievich
                the word is always a very important tool in the hands of a demagogue and provocateur

                That is, in principle, you are not opposed, one thing, but not always, here you are right, there are indeed spontaneous speeches of the people, but in most cases, and in this case, this is precisely the shaggy hand of the God-chosen.
                1. Maki Avellevich
                  Maki Avellevich 5 January 2018 15: 50
                  0
                  Quote: KaPToC
                  That is, in principle, you do not mind


                  Yes, I can not vouch for the fact that the Israeli secret services do not interfere in the affairs of other countries. this is probably happening.
                  but do you really think that only Israel and America with England are doing this?
          2. Mih1974
            Mih1974 5 January 2018 02: 26
            +2
            belay I don’t understand you Iran was a revolution after which a chain of current presidents appeared. and here coups took place in all countries, poisoned kings, kings request . That is, the Americans are overwhelmed - when they call on the “dictatorial ayatol regime” in Iran or do they “righteously criticize” the universally recognized World-wide way to change the country's social structure? laughing You really have that - decide, or "remove the cross or put on your underpants." laughing
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 5 January 2018 10: 33
              0
              Quote: Mih1974
              That is, the Americans are overwhelmed - when they call on the “dictatorial ayatol regime” in Iran or do they “righteously criticize” the universally recognized World-wide way to change the country's social structure? You really have that - decide, or "remove the cross or put on your underpants."


              that is, every nation defends its interests as it can. when they can’t start whining about the weeping revolutions.
              Of course, there are always forces who want to change this or that regime for themselves, but when a society is healthy and stable as a whole, then no tweeters and Facebook will ruin it.
              try using the Internet and a couple of provocations to arrange a coup, say in China, Canada or in the same Israel.
              1. Olezhek
                Olezhek 5 January 2018 17: 13
                +1
                Of course, there are always forces who want to change this or that regime for themselves, but when a society is healthy and stable as a whole, then no tweeters and Facebook will ruin it.


                Do you recall about Ukraine?
                There were not enough tweeters and facebooks there.
                Therefore, extremists with machine guns and a sniper went into business
                on the Maidan...
                There were attacks on military units and seizure of weapons
                With the full support of the "international community"
                Despite all the problems, Ukrainian society could survive
                but he was stupidly "overwhelmed" by force.
                Tweets and Facebook is only part of the plan.
              2. Olezhek
                Olezhek 5 January 2018 17: 15
                0
                try using the Internet and a couple of provocations to make a coup say in China, Canada or in the same Israel


                You well remembered about China: recall the events in Tiananmen?
                And how did they "quench"?
                And many years of "international sanctions"?
                1. Maki Avellevich
                  Maki Avellevich 6 January 2018 09: 26
                  0
                  Quote: Olezhek
                  You well remembered about China: recall the events in Tiananmen?
                  And how did they "quench"?


                  exactly what were repaid and the coup did not work. the power of the power of the Bula is sufficient, which I wanted to say about this topic.
          3. nelson
            nelson 5 January 2018 13: 09
            +1
            And you note that in Iran there was a revolution after which a chain of current presidents appeared.
            HOW FIRST THE FIRST SPEECH IS CONFIRMED SECOND! Are you by any chance a Jew?
            coups, poisoned kings, kings, princes crowns, etc., took place in all countries.
            therefore, it is not necessary to breed demagogy about the "legally elected presidents." everyone has the same legal.
            whoever takes it and has it, so in nature everything works.
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 5 January 2018 15: 52
              0
              Quote: nelson
              HOW FIRST THE FIRST SPEECH IS CONFIRMED SECOND! Are you by any chance a Jew?

              Did I ...? ”The professor asked, and suddenly he thought. - Yes, perhaps a Jew ...
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  9. Drozdov
    Drozdov 4 January 2018 10: 34
    +2
    good article, emotional ...
    over the hegemon from behind a puddle a shroud has long been crying, strewn with green candy wrappers
  10. Nemesis
    Nemesis 4 January 2018 12: 17
    +3
    The IRGC threw the US out of Iran and the US yearns for revenge ... This is understandable ...
  11. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 4 January 2018 13: 10
    +1
    Quote: xetai9977
    "In Iran, another attempt was made" color revolution "
    Stop seeing someone’s hand in every manifestation of popular discontent! Have you ever been to Iran? Do you know the needs and aspirations of the people? What problems do they have, you know? Iran has a very strict dictatorship; all free thought is suppressed in the bud. The mullah council decides to whom it is possible to run for election to some elected body, and to whom not. National minorities are deprived of any right to study in their native language ... You can continue for a long time! If the Persians are against the United States, this does not mean that they are someone else and they are white and fluffy! If the people are protesting, then there are reasons for that! And very good, it’s not the first time they are rising!

    And in Azerbaijan, the situation is better ?????????
  12. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 4 January 2018 13: 11
    0
    Well, whose ears stick out for the events in Iran, we know))
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  15. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 4 January 2018 13: 19
    0
    Read the newspaper "Tomorrow". It writes very well about events in Iran
  16. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 4 January 2018 13: 26
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Of course, how can the Iranians themselves suddenly become outraged by hopelessness?

    So already detained in Iran some agents of foreign intelligence services)))) That's interesting whose they are ??? laughing laughing
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 4 January 2018 13: 38
      +2
      Who reported this about foreign agents?
    2. karabas-barabas
      karabas-barabas 4 January 2018 18: 59
      +2
      Who said the Iranian mules, against whom did the people come out? So in Russia, only the State Department hirers are dissatisfied with something, corruption, living standards, etc. trifles, and so everyone is happy and happy.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 19: 14
        +4
        Quote: karabas-barabas
        This is who said Iranian mules ...

        They, they ... laughing

        It is difficult to calculate how many monuments donkeys are installed around the world. But it is known for certain that the closest relative of this animal to the mule, the monument was built only one. It is installed near the military American cemetery near Paris. There is an inscription on the tombstone: “Here is the unforgettable mule of Meggie. He lived a long life and kicked with his hoof two generals, 8 colonels, 17 captains, 31 lieutenants, 554 soldiers and only one German mine ”
  17. aKtoR
    aKtoR 4 January 2018 14: 19
    +7
    At headquarters games at the beginning of 2017, the United States and NATO imitated a war with Iran, the Russian Federation and the PRC. According to press information, they managed to destroy all three opposing states. The ears of the partners outside of Zako are sticking up from events in Iran. I hope that the pocket opposition of the amers will lose ...
    1. Pancir026
      Pancir026 4 January 2018 14: 23
      +1
      Quote: aKtoR
      At headquarters games in early 2017, the United States and NATO simulated a war with Iran, the Russian Federation and the PRC. According to press reports, they managed to destroy all three opposing states.

      Hallucinations of the Western press are known, but alas for them and the Pentagon, the reality is different.
      For example, http://interpolit.ru/blog/kak_amerikanskij_genera
      l_potopil_sobstvennyj_flot / 2016-05-17-6925
      And this is already a far shaggy year 2002, now it’s already 2018 and everything has changed for the worse for the Americans.
      With regards to the "rebellion" in Iran, woe to them, these rebels and those who provoked this. IRCS and other services of Iran will cope.
      1. aKtoR
        aKtoR 4 January 2018 14: 29
        +4
        Thank you, but I saw this message when I was preparing the topic.
        https://topwar.ru/116089-bystryy-globalnyy-udar-c
        hast-1.html

        The problem is that the Americans now do not want to be burned out in nuclear fire with the Russian Federation. They began to play on how to stay away from a retaliatory strike only our SNF ...
        1. Pancir026
          Pancir026 4 January 2018 15: 06
          +1
          Quote: aKtoR
          They began to play on staying away from retaliation only of our strategic nuclear forces ...

          Whom do you want to push for suicide? Of the allies possessing strategic nuclear forces, neither England nor France will obviously want to act as suicides.
          Pakistan? He has problems above the roof with India.
          DPRK? Faced with the PRC. RF-in the United States crazy?
          There is only one player left who, together with the United States, is tied to provocations in Iran-Israel. Repetition of the Holocaust?
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 4 January 2018 14: 44
        +3
        I support - these geeks need to chop Bosko !! Because they are used for other purposes, instead of “we think this place”, they only eat into it and “spew” obscene words. am
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 4 January 2018 16: 49
          0
          We have such a whole herd.

          They came from different countries, supposedly former fellow citizens of mostly Jewish nationality ...
  18. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 4 January 2018 15: 39
    +8
    Riots easily swell even without the United States where the authorities ignore pain points, where important problems have not been resolved for years, where people see how unjust the authorities are! It concerns not only Iran, but also Russia.
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 4 January 2018 20: 29
      +6
      Corruption: the fact that the United States began to be called "lobbying" so corroded their management structures that officials from the rest of the world were already drowning in saliva from envy.
      The irremovability of power: in the USA, for several centuries, essentially the same oligarchic elite has been in power, paying for both parties at the same time, with a FULL lack of independent observers and, moreover, an independent calculation of publicly announced results at each polling station
      Poverty: in the USA, only in 2008 hundreds of thousands of families with late payments to banks were thrown out (literally) of their homes onto the streets of 46, and subsequently most of these houses were demolished due to deterioration due to lack of supervision. 16573 MILLION people in the USA receive coupons for free food (http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/XNUMX), "at the beginning of 2013, 610 people had no roof over their heads in the USA"

      Anything else you want to bark about "people's problems"? am
      1. karabas-barabas
        karabas-barabas 5 January 2018 04: 20
        +2
        Quote: Mih1974
        Corruption: the fact that the United States began to be called "lobbying" has so corroded their management structures that officials from the rest of the world have already drowned in saliva from envy.


        Corruption and theft of the Russian, or other Asian-Arab-South American floods can be compared with lobbyism in the West, of course you have to think of it. Lobbyists do not enrich any particular officials at the expense of the state. In the west, officials and high-ranking police officers are generally poor gray mice, compared to their Russian counterparts. Lobbyists lobby their industries and their work to draw attention to these industries. It is unclear why some officials are jealous here. Can you see Western officials with watches and pens for myo $, accounts in myo, or mr $ in western banks, children in elite schools in England and the USA, etc. Russian realities? To compare Russian theft with lobbyism is an attempt to confuse people with their heads and smear thieves.

        Quote: Mih1974
        in the USA, for several centuries, essentially the same oligarchic elite has been in power, paying for both parties at the same time, with a FULL lack of independent observers and the more so an independent calculation of publicly announced results in each polling station


        No, there is no "one and the same oligarchic elite" of the century in power, what do you think up at all ?!)) Before posting such nonsense, take an interest from serious, open sources about how elections are held and the leadership of the country is changed in the United States. If you don’t understand something, they’ll explain to you, just don’t ask anyone. The irremovability of power is not only “irreplaceable” Putin, it’s also his environment, which, having fallen for theft of billions for some reason, is not something that does not resign (what a process and deadline!))), They often go on increasing and in general, at all key positions, the same people are surrounded by the head of state, no matter what result they work with. The Americans trust their election system, the Russians do not, for obvious reasons.

        Quote: Mih1974
        Poverty: in the US only in 2008 on the streets ......


        In the United States, those who work can create a decent life for themselves; in Russia, millions of people, despite the availability of work, cannot even eat normally. What do you care about Americans who live better than Russians? In Russia, millions of poor pensioners, hundreds of thousands of orphans, including social.
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 5 January 2018 08: 01
          +3
          Quote: karabas-barabas
          Corruption and theft of the Russian, or other Asian-Arab-South American floods can be compared with lobbyism in the West, of course you have to think of it.

          Who cares? Americans defeated corruption - legitimizing it?
          Quote: karabas-barabas
          The irremovability of power, it’s not only “irreplaceable” Putin, it’s also his environment, which, falling into the theft of billions for some reason, is not something that does not resign

          That's right, finely somehow the Russians steal - in billions, here the Americans - yes, they do - steal in trillions.
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 5 January 2018 08: 56
          +2
          The epic "alternative-developed" I would even say - Reference !! belay laughing
          The highest corruption official that we know about current coins is US President Bill Clinton. He and his "syupryuga" Khilaryuga - dragged through the bureaucratic and legislative apparatus the law on (do not faint those who read to swoon) - PRIVATIZATION OF THE ENRICHMENTAL DAMAGE INDUSTRY of the USA !!! belay belay Nowhere, I repeat, ANYWHERE in the world, we have never thought of such a thing. fool Several laws and all kinds of decrees and rules were beneath this matter, and of course - "for thanks" and not for "lobbying" payments to the "Clinton Fund" from various (including Russian) nuclear offices.
          By the "irremovability of power" - the first to break through to power in the United States past the okhigorhat were the Kenedy family. For what, in fact, they paid - two brothers were killed, and the third was so mutilated (well, to kill the third one - it didn’t get into any “butterscotch poisoning”) that he was guaranteed to “give up political activity”. No. .
          For the poor - with all the shortcomings in Russia, with all the anti-Russian orientation of the Government and the majority of ministers, we have significantly more Homeowners. good While the American “simple” is a credit SLAVE, he plows like hell, and all just to “not miss the payment” because then he will be on the street, without ANYTHING !!! And often this is TAM a "death sentence", with almost no chance to break into your circle.
          I especially want to “compare” two Famines: people were dying in the USSR because there WAS NO food, well, in general, not everyone was even lacking for gold, in the USA - wheat fields were burned, milk just poured into the ditches, because it was cheaper than that to the city and sell it !! belay negative In the USSR, hunger is for the most part a consequence of the revolution, a drop in the level of education and agricultural culture and civil war + the climatic factor (then capitalist Poland and Germany were starving too), the United States - you are not frustrated after the revolution, nor are you a civil war, all in all economics and the rise of well-being of people and BAC "sudden hitler" belay HUNGER!!
      2. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 5 January 2018 10: 43
        0
        Quote: Mih1974
        Corruption: the fact that the United States began to be called "lobbying" has so corroded their management structures that officials from the rest of the world have already drowned in saliva from envy.
        The irremovability of power: in the United States, for several centuries, essentially the same oligarchic elite has been in power, paying for both parties at the same time, with a TOTAL lack of independent observers and, moreover, independent calculation of publicly announced results at each polling station
        Poverty: in the United States alone, in 2008, hundreds of thousands of families with late payments to banks were thrown (literally) from their homes onto the streets, and subsequently most of these homes were demolished due to disrepair due to lack of supervision. 46 MILLION people in the USA receive coupons for free food (http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/16573), "at the beginning of 2013, 610 people had no roof over their heads"


        Ie your even a slight whiff of wind will lead to the collapse of the state in America.
        why no one then can not send a couple of "agents" and make them a revolution?
        1. Olezhek
          Olezhek 5 January 2018 17: 22
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          Ie your even a slight whiff of wind will lead to the collapse of the state in America.
          why no one then can not send a couple of "agents" and make them a revolution?

          Different things - the first - corruption in the USA
          And the second is regime stability
          Things may be correlated, but different ...
          flies separately, cutlets separately.
          1. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich 6 January 2018 09: 28
            +1
            Quote: Olezhek
            Different things - the first - corruption in the USA
            And the second is regime stability
            Things may be correlated, but different ...
            flies separately, cutlets separately.


            that is, there may be healthy communion with a strong power structure but at the same time rotten from corruption.
            I find it hard to imagine
  19. Normal ok
    Normal ok 4 January 2018 16: 06
    +1
    less than a year ago, the people of Iran in democratic elections, incidentally recognized as such in the United States, elected Rouhani as president.

    Meanwhile, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said that participation in peaceful protests is the constitutional right of citizens of the country.
    Source RT: https://ru.rt.com/9zt0
    In other words, it is not so simple as the author writes. It is quite realistic that the secular part of the Iranian leadership wants to move religious fundamentalists from the "helm".
  20. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 January 2018 16: 13
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    But the world lives.

    Yes, he is a hundred years old. Mistaken, but while the sun is shining.
    And, no matter how offensive it is to us, activity is manifested in those places where we have gained some foreign policy successes. In particular, in Iran.

    Well, this is their decision, according to the choice of weapons. China chose tanks on Tenan Men and was not mistaken. On the swamp we managed to slap on the pope (correspondents, Europe is nearby, although it would be possible ... deeper)
  21. Height
    Height 4 January 2018 20: 55
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    Quote: karabas-barabas
    Color revolutions, agents of the State Department, etc. Mura .., Do you know at least one Persian? All your nonsense about agents of the State Department and delusional theories about color revolutions organized by them, it’s just disrespect for those few brave people who dare to say something to the authoritarian authorities and die. What tries are immigrants, for whom is this nonsense intended? The people are not only made up of power blanks and sheep in the stall. So do not fool people with all sorts of rubbish, it’s better to take an interest in Iran’s problems, the reasons for the protest.

    You have a rainbow color, and therefore you do not understand the essence.
  22. high
    high 4 January 2018 22: 15
    +2
    Quote: To be or not to be
    Iran is building a permanent military base in Syria, 14 kilometers south of Damascus and 50 kilometers from the border with Israel, reports the BBC ..

    Iran tried to build a military base, but after Israel’s missile attack, there were only ruins from the base ...
    Israel will not allow an Iranian base in Syria .... two dictatorial regimes in one country for Syria’s neighbors is a war.
    1. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 5 January 2018 06: 24
      +2
      Quote: alta
      Iran tried to build a military base, but after Israel’s missile attack, there were only ruins from the base ...
      Israel will not allow an Iranian base in Syria .... two dictatorial regimes in one country for Syria’s neighbors is a war.

      And if the United States is building bases in Ukraine, is it like for the Russian Federation? It may also sound like Israel in Syria, not only from Lebanese airspace, but from Belarus. What is the difference then? That one can do everything, but not the other.
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 5 January 2018 13: 37
        +1
        Quote: astronom1973n
        And if the United States is building bases in Ukraine, is it like for the Russian Federation? It may also sound like Israel in Syria, not only from Lebanese airspace, but from Belarus. What is the difference then? That one can do everything, but not the other.


        And who forbids you? Russia must do what it considers appropriate for itself
        1. astronom1973n
          astronom1973n 5 January 2018 14: 23
          +2
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          And who forbids you? Russia must do what it considers appropriate for itself

          Thank you for understanding! hi
  23. high
    high 4 January 2018 22: 34
    +1
    Quote: Mih1974
    Corruption: the fact that the United States began to be called "lobbying" so corroded their management structures that officials from the rest of the world were already drowning in saliva from envy.
    The irremovability of power: in the USA, for several centuries, essentially the same oligarchic elite has been in power, paying for both parties at the same time, with a FULL lack of independent observers and, moreover, an independent calculation of publicly announced results at each polling station
    Poverty: in the USA, only in 2008 hundreds of thousands of families with late payments to banks were thrown out (literally) of their homes onto the streets of 46, and subsequently most of these houses were demolished due to deterioration due to lack of supervision. 16573 MILLION people in the USA receive coupons for free food (http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/XNUMX), "at the beginning of 2013, 610 people had no roof over their heads in the USA"

    Anything else you want to bark about "people's problems"? am


    Do you believe in this nonsense that you wrote?
    During the Iron Curtain, Soviet people believed that they live well, they could be understood, but to write this nonsense during the Internet ??? !!!
    In your spare time, take a look at who developed the Internet and the computers you work for, who developed the telephones that you are negotiating on, who developed the medicines that treat you, who developed the technologies that are used in Russia to produce oil and gas ....
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 4 January 2018 23: 35
      +3
      alta! My friend, a Jewess, back in Soviet times. she told me that there are Jews and there are Jews (the moderators will correct me, I have no doubt, but I expressed myself clearly, I hope). Time has proved me right. You also contributed, thank you.
      There was a lot of bad things in the Union, despite the fact that it was a correct system with bad rulers. Not a single one since 1953 has been so lucky for us.

      And as for the one who invented something, it is not so simple. as it seems to you. Personnel, by the way, was invented in the Union, a few years earlier than Jobs. Only now, by virtue of what I wrote a little above, it turned out to be unnecessary precisely for these insignificants in power. Although the original idea was revolutionary not only for us, but for the whole world. And it was proposed for use in the practical work of designers. http://www.aif.ru/society/people/1182527
      And here we were not behind.
      The truth is that back in 1973 Arseny Gorokhov received copyright certificate No. 383005 in which he described in detail the “programming device” as he called it then, although he liked the word “intellectual” more. In fact, this was the first personal computer in the world. American Steve Jobs and his school friend Wozniak gathered their Apple I in the garage only three years later.

      I can still say a lot, but it still won't reach you.
    2. KaPToC
      KaPToC 5 January 2018 00: 01
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      Quote: alta
      In your spare time, take a look at who developed the Internet and the computers you work for, who developed the telephones that you are negotiating on, who developed the medicines that treat you, who developed the technologies that are used in Russia to produce oil and gas ....

      Russians?
    3. Mih1974
      Mih1974 5 January 2018 09: 00
      +1
      laughing laughing PAPER, here's about "developed technologies that are used in Russia for oil and gas“You’ve joked well. Let it be known to YOU, ugh on you, that the fracturing on which the very existence of the“ shale revolution ”is based was developed in the USSR !!!
      And now he’s gone out of here. am
  24. NordUral
    NordUral 4 January 2018 23: 20
    +1
    Partners will not calm down. It seems to me that they, in the States, have long had time to organize the Maidan, but not one. Maybe even then they will leave the world alone. But the Kremlin needs to be more attentive, without the longing and boasting of unnecessary ones. Silently, but to work productively on bearded men and their curators.
  25. high
    high 5 January 2018 17: 08
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    [/ Quote]
    In the United States, those who work can create a decent life for themselves; in Russia, millions of people, despite the availability of work, cannot even eat normally. What do you care about Americans who live better than Russians?
    In Russia, millions of poor pensioners, hundreds of thousands of orphans, including social.
    [i] [/ i] [/ quote]
    You will not understand, people are accustomed to live in poverty ... Iran in terms of life - a place 129, Russia - a place 90, next - the poorest countries ...... USA 11 place.
    During the time of the Internet, Iranian students understand that their rich country spends billions of dollars on oil sales to support the terrorists of Hisbollah, Hamas .... even for the former Iranian defense minister, the Argentine Prosecutor issued a warrant for his arrest.
    Alas, all dictatorial regimes live poorly .. students marched for a better life - they were shot and found to blame: USA, Israel ...
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 5 January 2018 17: 26
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      You will not understand, people are accustomed to live in poverty ... Iran in terms of life - a place 129, Russia - a place 90, next - the poorest countries ...... USA 11 place.



      Komrad - a big personal request
      spread your logic to Poroshenko mode
      Is he dictatorial or not?
      And if not, why do Ukrainians live so poorly?
      1. high
        high 5 January 2018 20: 10
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        Ukraine cut off the industrial Donbass and Crimea: there is a war, tens of thousands of people killed on both sides, enormous budget funds go into the arsenal of refugees of Donbass. .... tens of thousands of Ukrainians drafted into the Army-they need to be fed ..
        Yes, the standard of living fell sharply in Ukraine, he fell in Russia ....
        1. Cossack 471
          Cossack 471 5 January 2018 23: 10
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          ALTA On a map of Ukraine, look at what part of Ukraine is located at LDNR and what is its economic potential. It was only necessary to pass a law on the special status of Donbass and the Russian language and the war would end rather quickly.
    2. KaPToC
      KaPToC 5 January 2018 17: 58
      0
      Quote: alta
      Alas, all dictatorial regimes live poorly ..

      For example, the dictatorial regimes of Qatar and Saudi Arabia?
  26. Anyone
    Anyone 5 January 2018 19: 12
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    As one would expect, European politicians have already come out in support of the position of the American president. Like the UK premiere. I think that others will not give up the opportunity to once again "lick the great democracy" in one place. Alas, there are not so many states in the world today that can pursue an independent foreign policy.

    It would be nice to refer to the words of the British Prime Minister. I don’t use Twitter, but somewhere in the media they should quote. But I did not find. The fact is that, for example, the BBC, EuroNews and TheUK very carefully and carefully (unlike Trump) commented on the riots in Iran.
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 6 January 2018 09: 33
      +1
      Quote: Anyone
      It would be nice to refer to the words of the British Prime Minister. I don’t use Twitter, but somewhere in the media they should quote. But I did not find. The fact is that, for example, the BBC, EuroNews and TheUK very carefully and carefully (unlike Trump) commented on the riots in Iran.


      it is impossible to judge support or a turn around the headlines of newspapers in countries, or rather it may be possible, but you need to read using a mirror to understand where the wind blows
  27. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 8 January 2018 11: 32
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    Stop seeing someone’s hand in every manifestation of popular discontent! Have you ever been to Iran? Do you know the needs and aspirations of the people? What problems do they have, you know?

    Of course, you know exactly all the aspirations of the Iranian people. The Iranian people hate their rulers and expect their salvation from their best friends - Trump and Netanyahu. The two of them only think about the happiness of the Iranian people day and night.