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The weekly summary of 23-29 December about the military and social situation in the DNR and the LC from the military men "Mag"

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The past week was remembered by two bright events - the beginning of the “New Year Truce” and the exchange of prisoners. In the first and in the second case, Ukraine again violated the preliminary agreement.
At the front of the DPR, the APU began to break the “New Year's Truce” almost immediately after 00: December 00 23. Although, to be fair, it must be said that there were fewer violations in a week than during the “School Truce” and the “Grain Truce”. And at the front with the LC, there were practically no violations.


The weekly summary of 23-29 December about the military and social situation in the DNR and the LC from the military men "Mag"


As for the exchange, the agreements were also violated. From Ukraine, the flow of civilians continued to move, although the parties agreed to block the road for the time of the exchange. We have done this, Ukraine is not. At first, there were about 100 people and 40 transport units, then the number grew to 2000 civilian and 150 transport units. Accordingly, the republics were forced to take measures and provide buses from Gorlovka in order to withdraw all civilians from the neutral zone.
The exchange itself began two hours later. And here Ukraine again violated the agreement. Instead of neutral, they said that the exchange will take place on the territory under their control. And during the exchange, it turned out that they donate to the Republics not 306, but only 237 people.
At first, Kiev said that they had already released part of the prisoners a long time ago and they themselves had to return, then stated that part refused to go. But they did not even provide video evidence, as we did in the DPR, when one of the captured servicemen of the Supreme Court of Ukraine decided to remain in the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic.
Constant provocations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and nationalist battalions along the front line still lead to irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. According to the official data of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, for the 2017 year the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces amounted to 208 dead and 1140 injured. However, the Ukrainian military leadership, fearing responsibility for the death of servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, hides the true figures of losses from the public. According to our data, the number of dead is about 500 and the wounded - more than 1500 military personnel.
According to our intelligence, in just five days of the “New Year's Armistice”, the loss of the wounded and 4 units and units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which occupy positions in the zone of responsibility of the Armed Forces of the DPR.
According to the DPR intelligence, in the area of ​​settlement Novotroitskoye arrived special forces group from the 3-th op SPN SSO APU (separate special forces regiment of the special operations forces of the APU). We do not exclude that under the cover of the “New Year's Armistice” this group will try to sabotage in the area of ​​the settlement. Dokuchaevsk.

Now, as for the battles and shelling that took place this week.

23.12.17, Saturday

00: 10 in the Gorlovka area over the city there was a powerful cotton, it worked our air defense.
12: 35 in the Frunze region (LNR) battle using machine guns and VOGs.
12: 50 in the area of ​​Kalinovka battle with the use of memory, AGS and mortars 82-mm caliber.
15: 40 Petrovsky district of Donetsk under fire from a pair of VSU sniper from the Marinka area.
On Monday, the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired at the DPR 4 times.
In the Donetsk area, firing 10 mines with a 82-mm caliber in areas of four settlements, and also fired from BMP and various types of grenade launchers and small weapons.
On Monday, the APU fired at LC 2 times, which violated the cease-fire declared from December 00.00 23 hours. The positions of our units in the areas of the settlements of Frunze and Kalinovka were subjected to shelling. When shelling the APU, 82-mm mortars, anti-aircraft guns, various types of grenade launchers and small arms were used. In total, 46 mines and grenades were released throughout the Republic.






24.12.17, Sunday

07: 30, the village of Veseloe, under mortar shells in caliber 82-mm and 120-mm, was fired from the side of the so-called. "Anthill" near the village of Skilled on the territory controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In total, 6 mines with 82-mm caliber and 10 mines with 120-mm caliber were produced in our territory.
10: 10 in the Kalinovo area (LNR) by the servicemen of the People’s Militia shot down an unmanned aerial vehicle APU Skaywolker (PHOTO), which carried out reconnaissance and preparation for a fire adjustment. As a result of the defeat of the Ukrainian spotter by the servicemen of the people's militia of the LPR, they managed to avoid opening fire on the territory of the Republic.



18: 15 in the area of ​​Yasinovataya shelling with the use of k / k machine guns and grenade launchers.
On Sunday, the APU bombarded the DNI 3 times.
In Donetsk direction, releasing in the area of ​​settlement Cheerful 6 mines with a caliber of 82-mm and 10 mines with a caliber of 120-mm, as well as fired at the areas of Staromikhaylovka and Yasinovataya with grenade launchers and small arms.
On Sunday, the situation in the area of ​​responsibility of the LPR tended to stabilize; over the past 24 hours, there was no violation of the cease-fire regime.






25.12.17, Monday

08: 45 Petrovsky district of Donetsk under fire from LNG-9.
from 16: 30 to 17: 30, the village of Sosnovskoye under mortar fire. Total APU released 8 min caliber 82-mm. 16: 50 in the area of ​​Krutaya Balka shelling our positions from a k / k machine gun.
20: 45 in the Kalinovo area (LNR) shelling from machine guns and AGS.
20: 55 in the area of ​​Logvinovo shelling of our positions from machine guns.
On Monday, the Ukrainian Armed Forces fired at the DPR 5 times.
In the Donetsk direction, the enemy conducted shelling of the Petrovsky district of Donetsk and the settlement of Yasinovataya of grenade launchers and various types of small arms.
On Gorlovsky direction shelling was carried out Cool Beam.
On the Mariupol direction, the enemy released 10 mines with a caliber of 82-mm in the range Sosnovskoe.
On Monday, the APU fired at LC 2 times, using AGS, KK and small arms. The positions of NM of the LPR in the area of ​​the settlement were subjected to shelling. Kalinovo, Logvinovo.

26.12.17, Tuesday

On Tuesday, the APU did not violate the cease-fire. The Armed Forces of the DPR and LNR also strictly observed the truce






27.12.17, Wednesday

15: 05 there was an exchange of prisoners of Ukraine and the LC
15: 30 Dolomite village under shelling from to / to machine guns and AGS. The enemy, taking advantage of the distraction of public attention to the exchange of prisoners of war between the DPR and Ukraine delivered a sneaky blow.
17: 50 there was an exchange of prisoners of Ukraine and the DNI.
Since Wednesday, the APU fired on the DNI 1 times.
The use of automatic grenade launchers and small arms according to the settlement has been noted. Dolomite from the direction of the settlement Novolugansk.
In the area of ​​responsibility of the LC, on Wednesday, 24 hours a day, no violations of the cease-fire regime were recorded by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.






28.12.17, Thursday

13: 00 in the n. Marinka and Krasnogorovka, located on the territory temporarily occupied by Ukraine, in violation of the Minsk agreements, in 7-8 kilometers from the front line, the Mi-24 APU helicopter patrols. Our air defense forces now, despite the possibility of destroying this goal, are not amenable to provocation.
13: 55 Petrovsky district of Donetsk under mortar fire, all from the point of view of the 30 th Ombre of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 11 mines with a caliber of 82-mm were released.
17: 40 in the Verkhnetoretsky area (lower) under attack from machine guns and AGS.
22: 10 Zhabichevo under shelling mortar caliber 82-mm.
22: 10 Spartak fired from LNG-9.
22: 15 Ozerianovka shelling from to / to machine guns and AGS.
22:45 north of Gorlovka, the village of Zaitsevo under fire from a rifle and tank.
For Thursday, the Ukrainian Armed Forces fired at the DPR 5 times.
In the Donetsk direction, the districts of five settlements of the Republic came under fire from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, of which in the Petrovsky district of Donetsk and the settlement of Zhabichevo used 82-mm mortars, other grenade launchers and small arms. The shelling was conducted from the position of the 1 Battalion of the 28 Brigade, commanded by war criminal Krupko Yu.Yu. Also, the DPR soldiers prevented an attempt by the Ukrainian security officials to conduct aerial reconnaissance of our positions and shot down a commercial quadcopter.
In the area of ​​responsibility of the LNR, no violations of the cease-fire regime were registered on the part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.






29.12.17, Friday

09: 00 Elenovka under mortar shelling caliber 120-mm.
10: 00 Verkhnetoretsk (bottom) under fire from grenade launchers and AGS. The fire was from the northern part of the village. The Punishers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired 7 shots from RPGs in peaceful quarters and around 30 shots from AGS-17.
21: 00 Verkhne-Toretsk (lower) again under fire, the entire APU released 4 mines in 82-mm caliber.
21: 30 in the area of ​​Kalinovka battle with the use of K / K machine guns and AGS.
On Friday, the APU fired at the DPR 2 times.
In the Donetsk direction in the area of ​​settlement Elenovka opponent released 1 mine caliber 120-mm, and in the area n. Verkhnetoretskaya Lower - 4 mines in 82-mm caliber, and also used automatic grenade launchers and small arms. Our Armed Forces observed the truce, and did not open return fire.
Over the past day, the APU fired at LC 1 times. The positions of our units in the area of ​​Kalinovka village came under fire. When fired from the side of n. Lugansk APU used an automatic machine-gun grenade launcher, large-caliber machine guns and small arms.
In total for the past week of the “New Year's Armistice”, from December 23:
- from the side of the APU fixed 24 shelling DNI.
Ukrainian army fired on the territory of the DPR over 200 shells and mines.
- APU fired at LC 5 times.
The fire was carried out from various small arms, large-caliber machine guns, manual and automatic grenade launchers and mortars of 82-mm caliber. Also on some parts of the front used technology.






A total of 2017 year APU fired XHUMX DNI times.

More than 10000 ammunition was launched, including 1610 rocket launchers and 13612 artillery shells.

As a result of the aggression of the Ukrainian security forces in the general complexity, 1149 houses and infrastructure facilities of the Republic were destroyed and damaged. Vital objects of maintenance, schools, hospitals were fired on purposefully. Among the civilians of the Republic, 31, including 2 children, were killed and 236 were injured, of which 14 children were injured.
On the facts of these crimes, the Prosecutor General's Office of the DPR initiated more than 4000 criminal cases. Sent to the European Court of Human Rights and the International Criminal Court more than 1000 materials with evidence of the crimes of the Ukrainian security forces against civilians of Donbass.
The outgoing year was still characterized by the use of the Armed Forces of Ukraine vile perception of settlements in the gray zone, which is a gross violation of the Minsk agreements on the breeding of the parties. The seizure of the locality by the Ukrainian side is hailed as “another victory,” regardless of the fact that there were no units of the Armed Forces of the DPR in this locality. Thus, the Ukrainian public develops an opinion about the alleged successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the ATO area. So it was in the settlements of Gladosovo, Travnevoe and Verkhne-Toretsk, whose residents hold protests against the arbitrariness of the Ukrainian security forces and the occupation.





All patience and health!


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  1. major071
    major071 2 January 2018 22: 03
    37
    All honest people with the coming! drinks Although “VO” rests until tomorrow, but at the request of Sergey (the Sith Lord), he posted his summary of the Donbass. Sergey, you’re a vodka !!! wink drinks
    1. ljoha_d
      ljoha_d 3 January 2018 00: 06
      +4
      I join in the congratulations. Happy New Year to all, may this year be better and wiser than the previous
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 3 January 2018 03: 22
      +9
      Will you take Crimean cognac? hi
      1. dSK
        dSK 3 January 2018 06: 17
        +7
        Hello Sergey! New Year will bring peace to your land.

        More health and many summers to all the defenders of the Donbass! soldier
        1. 210ox
          210ox 3 January 2018 07: 42
          +2
          Sergey, this is true, only the Russian Armed Forces can bring peace .. Negotiations and ranting of politicians will not lead to anything good. With the Coming of you!
          Quote: dsk
          Hello Sergey! New Year will bring peace to your land.

          More health and many summers to all the defenders of the Donbass! soldier
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 3 January 2018 09: 22
        +4
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Will you take Crimean cognac?


        Hello, Sergey.
        That’s what I wouldn’t refuse, it is from the muscat champagne produced at the Sevastopol Champagne Wines Plant. I was looking for holidays in St. Petersburg, but could not find it - sadness, however. Thanks for the review. Although, as you have noted, there is a temporary lull on the front end, but the hunch is not leaving that some kind of byak is brewing. Weapons and guns are pulled together by the APU not for fireworks.

        One can’t trust the Kiev clique on a grand scale, these are professional scammers and lies, because even the past exchange of prisoners was turned into a game of thimbles.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 3 January 2018 03: 57
      +1
      I already thought that the site has finished since the 1st.
      Thanks for the summary! Here on news reported that 3-4 in the anti-terrorist operation zone the Minister of Foreign Affairs Dzhomani will arrive, accompanied by a stump of uroshchala - Chugunkina. He guaranteed him safety.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 3 January 2018 07: 44
        +1
        Well, last year articles appeared on the site and later it seems ... yes Everyone needs a break ..
        Quote: siberalt
        I already thought that the site has finished since the 1st.
        Thanks for the summary! Here on news reported that 3-4 in the anti-terrorist operation zone the Minister of Foreign Affairs Dzhomani will arrive, accompanied by a stump of uroshchala - Chugunkina. He guaranteed him safety.
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 2 January 2018 22: 21
    17
    Here Poroshenko congratulated Ukrainians Happy New Year!
    Even Shariy could not restrain himself
  3. midshipman
    midshipman 2 January 2018 22: 26
    19
    Residents of the People's Republics, I wish you a Happy New Year 2018. God grant that this year brings you peace so that you can join the Russian Federation. Only then will the normal life of your families come.
    Dear Pavel Grudinin, You are a candidate for the post of President of Russia. I was a member of the CPSU since 1960, joined the party in LIAP., As a lieutenant. Do you think that those Ukrainians who kill children, civilians of the People’s Republics, are our brothers? You said so. I think not. From 6 to 1978, I (the Head of the 1988th Main Directorate of the MCI of the USSR) had 19 enterprises in Ukraine subordinate to it, and about 90 thousand specialists worked there. It was difficult to work with Ukrainians especially in the western regions. But it was. It will be difficult to say how it will be now, when Bandera’s people are in full command, I know one thing, that these nonhumans did not become our brothers. I have the honor.
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 2 January 2018 22: 30
      +8
      Exactly what kind of brothers they are to us. Let them live as they want. In Kiev, thousands again went to the torchlight procession. If Ukrainians like it, let them eat with a full spoon. And LDNR Russia will help with humanitarian aid and weapons.
      1. badens1111
        badens1111 3 January 2018 00: 07
        +8
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        In Kiev, thousands again went to the torchlight procession.

        Yes, come out .. Ukraine’s disgrace has come out, only thousands, not millions, but if you scream as you scream there that the Ukrainians are not brothers, then you apparently have a different goal, the goal is to completely disgrace us all inside you.
        Why You Need It?
        In LDNR, they live the same as in the rest of Ukraine and they decide what Ukraine will be without Bandera, and you do not bother with your cries, they say all Ukraine is flawed.
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 3 January 2018 08: 00
          +6
          Yes, for that thousand in Kiev, here on the front line of these geeks are tens (hundreds) of thousands - and EVERY day they shoot at peaceful women, children, old people am . These hundreds of thousands to us are NOT brothers, this is the scum of the human race. And more and more new stand in their ranks. Those who escaped to us - at least they do not shoot, but this is also unacceptable for a Russian person. In the terrible years of the War, adults who were under occupation went into partisans and destroyed the Nazis, even teenagers engaged in sabotage and then died a terrible death in the dungeons of the Gestapo. And now on the territory of Ukraine there are a couple of tens of millions of people and there is even no echo of the partisan movement from there, the Nazis, instead of fear, on the contrary feel their power and demand “respect and honor”. am Even the "laid off" from the War in the cities of Ukraine have no fear for their skins negative "nobody kills them, hangs them out at night on lanterns with cardboard"Nazi accomplice" am .. "moyahataskrai" is waiting by the sea in the face when "for them everything will be fixed and they will again make them self-popping vareniki vareniki" fool
          Nobody for you will save and “repair” your Ukraine. fool Bridges are already falling, gas pipelines are blowing up, and soon the railway communication will stop (no, not with Russia) in general with everyone, simply because of the destruction of both roads and rolling stock. Soon, the Nazis will dig up roads from you to Russia, but you will not have money to go to the EU and you will forget how the roads look. Pray that your nuclear power plants are stopped planned and CAUTION, and do not fly up into the air like in Fokushima, simply because another thief has stolen money to fix critical systems fool .
          Many will answer me here "what are you talking about he himself probably didn’t hit a finger on a finger, but you want people to risk their lives, tea is not the Second World War now". And I already answered this post with this post - in the Great Patriotic War people were afraid, but even going to certain death they fought with the Nazis. And now they have reached the point that - the western regions will" voluntarily leave "to neighboring NATO countries and there Ukrainians they will either survive quietly or kick out LOUDLY into the decaying remnants of the country, reach the control center at the level of first defragmentation at the regional level, and then to the level of local gangs during the civil war of 1920. fool And no matter how I would like that LDNR would be accepted in Russia and protected even from shelling (as happened in the Crimea) and bombing, the power in Russia will not change for the next 6 years, which means it will continue to be a “blood bath”, inhuman and savage.
          1. badens1111
            badens1111 3 January 2018 08: 33
            +1
            Quote: Mih1974
            None for you

            There is a lot of rumbling from the sofa from you. There is no sense at all.
            The cause of the liberation of Ukraine is the cause of the Donbass and those who are now underground, in Kharkov and Mariupol, Dneprodzerzhinsk and other cities, but you obviously will not be in their ranks.
            Therefore, you better be silent.
            Quote: Mih1974
            And no matter how I would like that LDNR would be accepted in Russia and protected even from shelling (as happened in the Crimea) and bombing, the power in Russia will not change for the next 6 years, which means it will continue to be a “blood bath”, inhuman and savage.

            Then why are your screams ???
            And your statements, you have with you, with you = I do not live in Ukraine, but nevertheless, I will not blame everyone and everyone in Ukraine for all the serious.
            And the last thing, before blaming a neighbor that he has such a misfortune, look at yourself, around you and those who have brought it all up, now scrolling at you from the screens and telling you all kinds of tales, erasing the crime that you committed in Bialowieza .
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 3 January 2018 09: 22
              +4
              And I’ll answer - I started “my war” for Russia just from Myself !! I could not go to defend the Donbass, although I really wanted to. No, I didn’t guess, I’m not a "couch general", but those who really fought will believe that I belong to those few "who do not belong in the war." I - did not serve, I am not proud of it and - no, I did not buy the reference. sad But this is not about that, the waters about the "fighting" on my part: since the time of the Triboltics, I have made decisions and still follow them - "NO goods from their Tribaltics", as far as I can in my physical and virtual surroundings, "an unequal information battle "for Russia and against those who want to harm it. As a normal person, I will not give a single example of how I “did a good deed”, because this is NOT YOUR CASE am am to whom and HOW I have done good. It is only between Me and God.
              My “cries” about joining Donbass to Russia I “materialize” in what is available to me - in voting for someone who promises to end the war in Donbas and joining them to Russia. good What I urge you to do, and everyone else who wants it. good
              Now about "blaming the neighbor" - at one time in Russia they did not want to fight against terrorists in Chechnya, although EVERYONE saw what evil it was. There were a lot of facts - hostage taking, theft of people, cars, hijacking of planes and many many. even during the war, when information about the horror that the Chechens were doing with the Russians began to be dumped on TV, many would like to "destroy it, but without us." But also many understood that "Moscow was behind us" and went for heroism, but an unknown death, for their homeland. But the “neighbors” not only that for four years I can’t make out that there is no attack by Russia, there are no terrorists in the Donbass, that Ukraine is destroying its own leadership, they continue to persist in their critenism, but much worse, they threw them into the Armed Forces am . Whatever you want to say, but you spread the video facts in a huge amount to us, and it’s clear that no porn sector or SBU could shoot and bomb the peaceful villages of Donbass in such a massive way. am No porn sector was NEVER allowed to go on combat aircraft, which means the Armed Forces of Ukraine, “ordinary Ukrainians” killed thousands of women and children, pensioners and simply civilians of Donbass. negative . I will remember to death the photo of the “Donetsk Madonna”, as well as the video shot by an unknown peasant who ran to his wife in the Lugansk Regional State Administration am negative . Consider ukram lucky that by no means I can take a gun (yes a simple gun) and go to the trenches to kill their scum. I wouldn’t have taken any prisoners in spite of any orders (even if they had shot me later)
      2. BLOND
        BLOND 3 January 2018 06: 00
        +7
        Let them eat ... They will eat enough ...
        Freedom must be suffered and conquered!
        Otherwise, it will be again: "We were occupied by Muscovites"
        Yes, come out .. Ukraine’s disgrace has come out, only thousands, not millions

        that’s a shame that several thousand fascists tipped the many-millionth Outskirts
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 3 January 2018 07: 37
          0
          Quote: BLOND
          that’s the shame that several thousand liberal compradors tipped many-millionth Russia

          Has nothing changed?
          1. BLOND
            BLOND 3 January 2018 09: 35
            +2
            badens1111
            The angle is not the same! I would argue, but I see no reason
            And a request. Do not quote my Nick, for which I did not write
    2. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 2 January 2018 22: 54
      10
      Communist Party smeared in full. I used to take the Communist Party as the successor to the CPSU, but now it’s clear that the Communist Party is no different from grant-sucking “opposition” parties like Yabloko or SPS. The fact that Grudinin was supported by the USA already explains everything. I am a simple man, and if the United States is outraged by the actions of Russia or this or that politician, and calls on the world community, it means that we are doing everything right. But if the United States patronizingly approvingly pats on the shoulder, as Gorbach and Yeltsin clapped, it means that the matter is seams. I used to always vote for Zyuganov, but now I’ll basically vote for Putin.
      PS I never considered Ukrainians to be brothers, and when I see and hear how politicians talk about the "brotherly" people who need help, I’m all wrong. The British and Germans are also fraternal Germanic peoples, but for some reason they do not suffer from the syndrome of "brotherly" love. The same can be said of the Spaniards, the French, and Italians.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 2 January 2018 23: 34
        +6
        Hear, cat, I ask sorry for the appeal - the Communist Party is not the heir to the CPSU and this is understandable to a little thinking person, purely for ideological reasons.
        I was rude here along the way and ask me to apologize for this, however, I want to say that Ukrainians should decide on their place of residence before it is too late.
        If you want to live in an analogue of Estonia - live, do not want to - dump either Russia or LDNR.
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 2 January 2018 23: 41
          +4
          Go to the official website of the Communist Party and read "On the Party", where the first lines say:
          Formed on the initiative of the Communists, primary organizations of the Communist Party of the RSFSR and the CPSU, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation continues the work of the RSDLP - RSDLP (b) - RCP (b) - CPSU (b) - the CPSU and Communist Party of the RSFSR, being their ideological successor
          https://kprf.ru/party/
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 2 January 2018 23: 54
            +2
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            Formed on the initiative of the Communists, the primary organizations of the KP

            Which got nothing and now they suffer for the fate of the people
        2. badens1111
          badens1111 2 January 2018 23: 56
          +8
          Quote: Gray Brother
          Hear

          Leave you a troll alone.
          All the writings against Grudinin, the Communist Party and the NPSR come from Life, Regnum and Kommersant, which means that the Russian oligarchy was seriously alarmed.
          Hence all the dirt and fiction, including from these forges .. It has become fashionable to mow, under a simple hard worker, with a tongue very suspended in terms of lies with links to all kinds of virus throws, as this user is doing now, Kot_Kuzya
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 3 January 2018 00: 02
            +3
            Bourgeois in the service of the Communists (or vice versa - I do not know), especially as a popular leader - this is strong. There’s zero market.
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 3 January 2018 08: 52
              +2
              Quote: Gray Brother
              Bourgeois

              Quote: Gray Brother
              There’s zero market.

              Quote: Gray Brother
              as a popular leader, it’s strong.

              V.N. Turchenko from Novosibirsk "Let's be frank! Questions to the president that may not be voiced at a press conference." There are only nine questions. And they are all important. And not one was heard at the press conference. I’ll give you at least two questions. “The non-Russian part of the country's population in the demographic respect as a whole is quite prosperous. The crisis hits mainly the Russian people. After 2002, its number is declining one and a half times faster than in the previous decade. ” In total, from 1989 to 2016, the share of Russians in the country's population decreased from 81,3% to 75%. If things go on like this, Comrade Turchenko writes, then "the Russians will soon become a minority in their country." Question: “Why, Vladimir Vladimirovich, when speaking about the demographic situation, do not even mention the extinction of the state-forming people?”
              It’s strange, why is it so hasty to climb out of the skin and vote for a candidate whose rating already goes beyond the bounds of common sense - 86%. And they vote so violently, as if in the yard - 1996, and again they need to choose Yeltsin, who has only 2%. And in their delight they already fall into complete madness. So, one political transgender from the Duma leadership exclaimed: “There is Putin — there is Russia, there is no Putin — there is no Russia!” Vladimir Vladimirovich, well, bring them to your senses! I wrote to you about this more than once. Give a cold shower to them, or let them put some kind of sedative enema; finally, you can appoint them ambassadors - someone to Namibia, someone to the Gambia, someone to Ukraine ... "
              Letter from writer Vladimir Sergeyevich Bushin to President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.http: //zavtra.ru/blogs/est_voprosi
          2. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 00: 03
            +7
            Uti lol . But nothing that Grudinin officially supported Michael McFaul?
            http://e-news.su/in-russia/206828-makfol-podderzh
            al-vydvizhenie-grudinina.html
            Follow the link, you will learn a lot of “good” things about the “zealous communist” Grudinin.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 3 January 2018 00: 27
              +5
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              Ooty. But nothing that Grudinin officially supported Michael McFaul?

              This is the norm.
              Americans in general for any boom except for a hunger strike (one’s own, of course - someone else’s can)))
            2. badens1111
              badens1111 3 January 2018 07: 40
              +3
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              Follow the link, you will learn a lot of “good” things about the “zealous communist” Grudinin.

              Follow the fake links? Why? McFaul, as a performer, did his job in your favor, helped the liberal Sonderkommando in raising hysteria against one of the strongest opponents.
              So your fuss is essentially fuss in favor of the Americans.
          3. saigon
            saigon 3 January 2018 10: 24
            +2
            Well, you can also write me down in trolls, only the CRC and its nominee, well, no matter how not sufferers for the people!
            I already asked and do the gentlemen from the CRC and personally Mr. Grudin have any ideas about decency and ethics?
            One group of gentlemen calling themselves the Communist Party and the other gentleman (exploiter) in any situation and a principled opponent of communist ideology (Buuy must be an opponent of communist ideology) sniffed and didn’t want to pick up the words of another. How does it look from the side they thought with their own heads?
            And do they suggest that an adult consider this character to be the hope of the people?
            I don’t care who and what writes about this Mr. Grudin, only the fact of cooperation between the exploiter and the Communists says one thing - he and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation do not and cannot be!
            So the phrase of V.I. Lenin about political issues ******** is more relevant than ever, the agrarians of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation should know it as a direct father to us.
            Nothing more to add, and no reason!
    3. assa67
      assa67 2 January 2018 23: 44
      +5
      I could not consider your first name in your account .. but I completely agree with you: what happened to Ukraine, which turned into dill, is terrible .....
    4. badens1111
      badens1111 3 January 2018 00: 04
      +7
      Quote: midshipman
      Do you think that those Ukrainians

      Do you want me to answer you ... The first to start with insult, to many .. not beautiful, the second, a miserable bunch of traitors, Bandera and other oligarchic scum, their servants who seized power in Ukraine. Ukraine is not all.
      And it is precisely to those who do not accept the fact of the existence of the Bandera ruin that Grudinin’s words are addressed, to those in Ukraine who are not too easy right now.
      Criminal bandbattalions, as well as all high-school students who are responsible for the killings in the Donbass, will receive their punishment, but do not confuse this scum with the vast majority of the inhabitants of Ukraine.
      Echoing those who do not consider Ukrainians to be brothers, you pour water on the Russophobic mill of the devil's West, which for hundreds of years has cherished the hope of tearing Little Russia away from Russia. Think about this.
      Even in the West of Ukraine, not everyone is similar to Bandera, so it’s not necessary to reduce everything to the disgusting erysipelas of a clique of Poroshenko and other avakovs with the Klitschko and other fauna.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 00: 28
        15
        Stop retelling myths about
        a miserable bunch of traitors, Bandera and other oligarchic scum, their servants who seized power in Ukraine. not all of Ukraine.

        In 2014, 55% of Ukrainians voted for Bendera and Russophobe Poroshenko, 13% voted for Bender and Russophobia, 8% voted for the outright Nazi Lyazhko, 6% for Bender and Russophobe Gritsenko. Altogether 84% of Ukrainians voted for Bendera and Russophobia, who hate Russia and Russians, this is not counting those who voted for outright Nazis like Yarosh, Tyagnibok and others. Given them, the figure will be even higher. I must admit that the vast majority of Ukrainians hate Russians and Russia, and wish us all death.
        1. trampoline instructor
          trampoline instructor 3 January 2018 04: 36
          +8
          In Transnistria, but on the right bank of the Dniester, there is a wonderful city of Bender.
          By the way, Poroshenko lived and studied in it, being a schoolboy. So with a stretch it can be called "Bender." But Tymoshenko and Gritsenko have nothing to do with Bender.
          You ... sort it out first in the subject, so as not to pour dirt on my fellow countrymen from Bender.
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 08: 54
            0
            I specifically write this so that Bender’s dupes vomit that the name of their national “hero” is contorted laughing
            1. trampoline instructor
              trampoline instructor 3 January 2018 09: 14
              +2
              You will add that my fellow countrymen from Bender will tear something for you.
              They have rich experience in this area. Since 1992
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 09: 26
                0
                Let them come. I will tear them myself what they wanted to tear me laughing
        2. badens1111
          badens1111 3 January 2018 07: 43
          0
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          2014 voted 55%

          For Yeltsin at the time, fooled by a lie in 1996, they voted.
          And then the population is not a hundred percent.
          So your cries here, this indulgence of the same Poroshenko and his American masters, just to prevent the possibility of reunion.
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          I must admit that the vast majority of Ukrainians hate Russians and Russia, and wish us all death.

          And you confessed to a blatant lie, this is a sign that you are working on the opposite side, inciting hatred of Ukrainians in us, are similar .. how is it that all of you are similar in your actions ..
          1. trampoline instructor
            trampoline instructor 3 January 2018 08: 26
            +1
            Break, gentlemen, break!
            Everyone has the right to their point of view. Everyone has their own truth! And let everyone have the right to express it and somehow adhere to it.
            In the end, the news itself is discussed here ... and you can set out your showdown in private messages. As usual, Truth is somewhere in between.
            Break!
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 3 January 2018 08: 36
              0
              Quote: Trampoline area instructor
              you can state your dismantlings in private messages.

              This is not my showdown, this is an answer to the suggestion that Ukraine is alien to us.
              The truth is simple - the West of the century did everything to break this part of the Russian world, now it has achieved some successes; to agree with this, the guarantee of our defeat in the future.
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 08: 53
                0
                Ukrainians are closer to the Poles than to the Russians. Ukraine 300 years before 1654 was part of Poland, the Ukrainian language is a dialect of the Polish language. For example, rock in Polish rock (year), Khmar is Khmar (cloud), color is color (color), place is a place (city), edge is an edge (country), etc. Ukrainians and Poles understand each other without problems, while Russian, unfamiliar with the Ukrainian language, understands little in a text written in Ukrainian.
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 3 January 2018 09: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  Ukrainians are closer to the Poles than to the Russians.

                  You are closer to the Americans.
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  Ukrainians and Poles understand each other without problems, while Russian, unfamiliar with the Ukrainian language, understands little in a text written in Ukrainian.

                  And this is your ignorance.
                  1. Kot_Kuzya
                    Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 09: 42
                    +1
                    I have never been to Ukraine, and I have no relatives in Ukraine. And there is absolutely no desire to go to Ukraine, even as a tourist, not to mention permanent residence. My colleague was a Ukrainian, originally from Chernivtsi, her husband is from Vyshgorod. They planned to move to retirement in Vyshgorod, but after the Maidan they abandoned this idea and remained living in St. Petersburg. So even Ukrainians do not want to live in this country. Besides, I was born in 1984, I almost do not remember the USSR, and for me Ukraine is as far and alien a country as Finland, Georgia and China, even if they border with us. I do not understand Ukrainian language.
                  2. lesnik1978
                    lesnik1978 3 January 2018 22: 05
                    +1
                    Kot_ Kuzya is right because in modern Ukraine. the language has a lot of Polish and made-up words. The result of the Russophobia. if you want I can give a huge number of examples.
                2. trampoline instructor
                  trampoline instructor 3 January 2018 09: 20
                  +2
                  Vootoot .... big "specialists" ... who do not distinguish between Bandera and Nazi from the city of Bender .... they rub us here.
                  He also told us that Moldovans and Romanians are one people.
                  Now it turned out that Ukrainian is a dialect of Polish :))
                  I have seen such linguists and anthropologists ...
                3. trampoline instructor
                  trampoline instructor 3 January 2018 09: 32
                  +1
                  Ukraine is a big country. I admit that a resident of the Kharkov region will not understand a resident of the Ivano-Frankivsk region. Western Ukraine - yes, rather closer to Poland. What can not be said about Sumy and Chernihiv on the border with Russia ... not to mention Odessa, Nikolaev or Kherson (the so-called Little Russia) So no rubbish is needed here.
                  1. Kot_Kuzya
                    Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 09: 44
                    0
                    Odessa, Nikolaev and Kherson is New Russia, not Little Russia! Ukrainians never lived there, it was a Wild Field. Turks have more rights to the Wild Field than Ukrainians. Here they must be included in Russia, like the Donbass. And Little Russia let it rot further separately.
                    1. trampoline instructor
                      trampoline instructor 3 January 2018 09: 56
                      0
                      Bandera from Bender first learn to distinguish, "specialist."
                      Then you will yap.
                      1. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 10: 01
                        +1
                        You did not understand? Are you a writer, not a reader? I know perfectly well that there is a city of Bender and there is an executioner and henchman of Hitler Bandera. So, I specifically write "Bеndera "so that bеNderovtsev dupes vomited from contempt the surname of their national "Hero".
          2. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 08: 55
            +1
            Enough to turn the cheek for another blow from the brothers! How can? And so, for 350 years, Russians fed the Ukrainians, denying themselves everything, if only the "brother" was fed up and did not look to the West. And they always betrayed, since the time of Mazepa.
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 3 January 2018 09: 23
              0
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              How can? And so, for 350 years, Russians fed the Ukrainians, denying themselves everything, if only the "brother" was fed up and did not look to the West.

              Oh, how ... and 8 million Ukrainians who died in the Great Patriotic War, where can we write?
              Where to write According to the 1939 census, more than 100 nationalities lived in the USSR.
              Heroes of the Soviet Union.
              1. Russian - 8160,
              2. Ukrainians - 2089,
              3. Belarusians - 309,
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              And they always betrayed, since the time of Mazepa.

              Well, then you don’t waved a mazepa, do you have to show the bill for krasnov and skin, Vlasov and other Kamenskys? You look a lot like them.
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 09: 37
                +4
                Unlike the non-brothers, for us Shkuro, Krasnov, Vlasov and other Kamenny traitors and accomplices of the enemy, and not national "heroes". Whereas you have traitors like Mazepa and Hitler’s henchmen Melnik, Bender and Shukhevych - national “heroes”! Making a difference?
                As for the Great Patriotic War, Ukraine was completely occupied by the Germans in the fall of 1941, Kiev was taken by the Germans on September 19, 1941, and was liberated only on November 6, 1943, and the western regions were liberated only in the spring of 1944. Thus, the hardest 1941-1942 The years were spent without the help of the Ukrainian SSR, we defeated the Germans near Moscow and Stalingrad, stopped the Germans and Finns near Leningrad without the help of the Ukrainian SSR. And the battle of Kursk was also won independently without the help of the non-brothers. Whereas Ukraine was under German occupation for two years and regularly supplied food to the German army, and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians left for Germany to work in German factories and fields, producing weapons, ammunition, equipment and food for the German army. Ukrainian workers replaced German workers with armor, and these German workers were called up to the Wehrmacht and replenished the ranks of German soldiers on the Eastern Front. So there is still a need to calculate who the Ukrainians helped more - us, or the Germans. Have you read Babi Yar by Kuznetsov? He describes how joyfully ordinary Kievans met the Germans with bread and salt, and this is in Kiev !!! They rejoiced that the Germans freed them from the "Moscow occupation". And how then were the Germans met in the western regions? And then he describes the joy with which the people of Kiev signed up for work in Germany with migrant workers, hoping to make good money. In short, Ukrainians were still jumping for European integration and dreamed of leaving for Europe to earn money.
              2. lesnik1978
                lesnik1978 3 January 2018 10: 03
                +1
                Not Ukrainians, but residents of the Ukrainian SSR, you know about forced Ukrainianization.
                1. Kot_Kuzya
                  Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 10: 18
                  +1
                  Well yes. In the USSR there was a policy of forced Ukrainization, when Russians living in Ukraine were enlisted in large numbers in Ukrainians. Therefore, there are now so many “Ukrainians” for whom the native language is Russian, but who believe that they are Ukrainians, since they were written down like that at birth. Take the same Olga Znachkova, who did not speak the Ukrainian language, and wrote on the poster her slogan on wild surzhik:
                  Although in Ukrainian her words should be written like this:
                  I am a girl! I do not want to be in the MS! I want least panties and ЄС
                  That is, it is immediately clear that the reference Ukrainian girl does not know the language, and speaks and communicates only in Russian.
    5. Lelek
      Lelek 3 January 2018 09: 30
      +2
      Quote: midshipman
      It will be difficult to say how it will be now, when Bandera’s command is full


      hi . The Ukrainian portal "Vesti.com" conducted an interesting survey: "Who needs to be removed from Ukraine", the respondents' answers are impressive.
  4. Masya masya
    Masya masya 2 January 2018 23: 21
    15
    All patience and health!

    love
  5. Gray brother
    Gray brother 2 January 2018 23: 23
    +5
    There were fewer violations, because everyone in the trash gluttoned themselves. Another day - two and enter the regime.
  6. Egorovich
    Egorovich 2 January 2018 23: 32
    +8
    Happy New Year everyone!!! Health, kindness and well-being !!! ............. But I wish Bandera only death!
  7. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 2 January 2018 23: 43
    +4
    Beautiful snow maiden in the photo!
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 2 January 2018 23: 59
      +7
      Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
      Beautiful snow maiden in the photo!

      from each according to his ability and to each according to the snow maiden! laughing
      1. MOSKVITYANIN
        MOSKVITYANIN 3 January 2018 00: 04
        +4
        Quote: Masya Masya
        Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
        Beautiful snow maiden in the photo!

        from each according to his ability and to each according to the snow maiden! laughing

        With such snow maiden, such abilities open ..... And in fact we are antilegic people ....
    2. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 00: 04
      +3
      And got up so ambiguously love . I alone want to go up to her and pull her dress up? laughing
      1. MOSKVITYANIN
        MOSKVITYANIN 3 January 2018 01: 00
        +2
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
        And got up so ambiguously love . I alone want to go up to her and pull her dress up? laughing

        Maybe I’m also a maniac, but you can rip off .... to a cropped coat, a sheepskin coat can be taken from Santa Claus ...
      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 3 January 2018 08: 39
        +3
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
        To me alone

        Such maniacs are now everywhere enough, so you are not alone in your maniac dreams.
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2018 09: 49
          +1
          Well, a normal thought for a normal man at the sight of a beautiful woman standing backwards in a short dress and leaning a little lol
  8. assa67
    assa67 2 January 2018 23: 49
    +7
    the ducks fell silent with gunpowder thumped on a congratulation .... I hope no one was hurt from ours ..
    Quote: major071
    posted his summary of the Donbass

    I did not get a summary recourse .....
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 3 January 2018 09: 55
      +1
      Quote: assa67
      the ducks fell silent with gunpowder thumped on a congratulation.


      hi The Germans, for their part, also congratulated dill and their hetman.
      1. assa67
        assa67 3 January 2018 20: 02
        +4
        thank you hi .... in, open guns at the Bundes, besides verbiage would have stuck something real petrushe lol .... mattresses also "congratulated" - canceled the contract of the 15th year on duty-free trade with dill ... though with the strange wording "in connection with copyright infringement" ....
  9. Amurets
    Amurets 2 January 2018 23: 51
    +8
    Happy New Year, New Russia! All the best to you: good, health and peaceful sky!
  10. orphan 63
    orphan 63 2 January 2018 23: 59
    +6
    laughing Santas with a pronounced Caucasian appearance promises wonderful gifts wink
    They have these gifts there, like Matroskin’s shoe polish, they have nowhere to go, so they give out to everyone who is not lazy. But we can’t forbid them such ugly charity from them. yes

    PS. "Javalins," you say .... Nu-nu ....
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 3 January 2018 00: 28
      +3
      That's for sure. I think that if all the CISs go to the aid of orphans, so what that LDNR has more tanks than France and Great Britain combined ....
      It’s hard for the EU, of course, to be with us (troubled people), Merkel and probably gray-haired ....
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 3 January 2018 08: 05
      +3
      It has long been written “it’s time to dig in the mines:“ beeches ”, S-hundredths,“ Iskanders ”, and after driving the fascists beyond the Dnieper and restoring the airfields, you can“ dig out ”with instant. good lol
  11. Kasym
    Kasym 3 January 2018 00: 37
    +8
    Happy New Year to everybody! Good luck, health and all the best, Friends!
    Donbass and the Lord of Sith special respect and respect! Guys are standing for everyone now! I will not say for these shellings and all this rattling of the Kiev victims, but the forerunners of the Victory this year will become a reality. Grandmas will no longer have to steal from these radishes (this year they gave more than they received; then, more, 23 billion in the last three years). They can trample on another assault, but no more.
    laughing You really do not hang the Kiev authorities right away, I want to see how these black and white ones will dodge in court. laughing This is that circus. laughing . Bidenov and all this Europe will be tacked. laughing . I wish all of us to wait for this trial, friends!
    Regards from Kazakhstan! drinks drinks drinks
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 3 January 2018 03: 24
      +3
      Thanks for the kind words!
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 3 January 2018 11: 10
        +3
        Thanks you!!! I am always waiting for your messages! Happy New Year!!! Health, strength, good luck !!!
  12. family tree
    family tree 3 January 2018 00: 53
    +2
    [quote] [All patience and / quote]
    1. family tree
      family tree 3 January 2018 01: 27
      +2
      How much more, commander, may Barclay already be enough, may Kutuzov turn on
  13. tosha.chuhontzev
    tosha.chuhontzev 3 January 2018 03: 36
    +8
    Frankly speaking, it hurts to read on this topic. It’s especially painful for me to transfer our mediocre Kremlin pipe fools from the “60 Minutes” and “Time Will Show” programs. From my point of view, the exchange of prisoners is an insulting failure and another spit on the Russian patriots. I admire the courageous patience of the militias. I cannot do this because I understand and see the problem more deeply. Money spoiled Putin.
    1. Height
      Height 3 January 2018 06: 55
      +2
      If you have a fountain, shut it up; give a rest and a fountain. (FROM)
  14. Height
    Height 3 January 2018 07: 12
    +3
    Quote: tosha.chuhontzev
    Frankly speaking, it hurts to read on this topic. It’s especially painful for me to transfer our mediocre Kremlin pipe fools from the “60 Minutes” and “Time Will Show” programs. From my point of view, the exchange of prisoners is an insulting failure and another spit on the Russian patriots. I admire the courageous patience of the militias. I cannot do this because I understand and see the problem more deeply. Money spoiled Putin.

    What is it that Putin has prevented you from doing? Go to the bathhouse on Monday?
    1. tosha.chuhontzev
      tosha.chuhontzev 3 January 2018 15: 20
      +3
      Putin, unfortunately, is the main neoliberal who made a number of unforgivable mistakes: the failure of Russian diplomacy, the deterioration of the lives of Russians, a toothless attitude to corruption and a corporate approach based on the principle in domestic politics: friend or foe. All this destroys the country. What is the shameful trial of Ulyukaev, where Russian laws have been violated, which by the way will fall under the amnesty. Recall Serdyukov, Vasilyev and Rodchenkov. Serdyukov is the hero of Russia, and Rodchenkov received the Order of Friendship of Peoples and two Honorary Diplomas from the President of Putin for the Sochi Olympics. State criminals such as Kudrin, Chubais and many other acting officials are still free.
      1. Height
        Height 6 January 2018 23: 13
        +1
        Here they missed: Yeltsin Center and another offshore.
        It's boring.
  15. EvgNik
    EvgNik 3 January 2018 08: 43
    +2
    Already laid out on VO, once again for Sergey I will repeat:

    When the war ends
    When the thunder of the guns ceases
    Then there will be silence
    And fireworks will not be needed.
    When the war ends ...

    Peaceful sky over your head this year!
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 3 January 2018 08: 47
      +1
      According to the poem by Larisa Saevich "The city in the lights, not in the fire"
  16. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 3 January 2018 10: 38
    +3
    I talked with a relative in western Ukraine. He speaks worse and worse. An endless queue at an employment agency abroad is visible from its window.
    His fellow businessman cannot find skilled workers, all abroad.
    I say it can’t be, I saw it myself, a month ago Poroshenko cut the ribbon, launched a new Mercedes plant in Ivano-Frankivsk. There were big celebrations on the occasion of the opening.
    He says, laughing, we, the people, call it broom factories. At this enterprise, workers only bind automotive electrical wires into bundles and that's it! There is another similar sharashka. There they connect automotive electrical wires into harnesses for Opel. Of the 260 enterprises in Ivano-Frankivsk, none work. Everything is looted and overgrown with trees. Foreigners bought cheap land and only corn and one more plant are grown every year, I forgot the name. The plants are tall and, like a pump, suck everything out of the ground. In a year or two, even the grass will not grow on these lands, but they don’t give a damn about it. Around only ruin and ruin. According to all the news, Muscovites are to blame.
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 3 January 2018 12: 22
      +1
      Well, I have two former colleagues (they themselves are from Vinnitsa) work one in Israel, the other recently settled in Poland ....
  17. Victorio
    Victorio 3 January 2018 19: 52
    0
    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    Stop retelling myths about
    a miserable bunch of traitors, Bandera and other oligarchic scum, their servants who seized power in Ukraine. not all of Ukraine.

    In 2014, 55% of Ukrainians voted for Bendera and Russophobe Poroshenko, 13% voted for Bender and Russophobia, 8% voted for the outright Nazi Lyazhko, 6% for Bender and Russophobe Gritsenko. Altogether 84% of Ukrainians voted for Bendera and Russophobia, who hate Russia and Russians, this is not counting those who voted for outright Nazis like Yarosh, Tyagnibok and others. Given them, the figure will be even higher. I must admit that the vast majority of Ukrainians hate Russians and Russia, and wishes us all death.

    ======
    it is impossible to build such a statement on these numbers, because the numbers themselves are doubtful, the second - it is possible to vote for the same Poroshenko, then even in those conditions it was the best of the worst, the third - people tend to make mistakes.
  18. assa67
    assa67 3 January 2018 20: 24
    +6
    Quote: Victorio
    In 2014, 55% of Ukrainians voted for Bendera and Russophobe Poroshenko, 13% voted for Bender and Russophobia, 8% voted for the outright Nazi Lyazhko, 6% for Bender and Russophobe Gritsenko. Altogether 84% of Ukrainians voted for Bendera and Russophobia, who hate Russia and Russians, this is not counting those who voted for outright Nazis like Yarosh, Tyagnibok and others. Given them, the figure will be even higher. I must admit that the vast majority of Ukrainians hate Russians and Russia, and wish us all death.

    Quote: Victorio
    voting for the same Poroshenko, then and in those conditions was the best of the worst

    here a quote from Attila will have to be in place (there was such a warrior, Hun) ....: "in difficult times, the nation will certainly elect the leader of the most ugly" ... well, why not dill?