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US to sell used air-to-air missiles to Poland?

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The official website of the US Department of Defense reports that on the basis of the concluded contract, American air-to-air missiles will be delivered to Poland. It is stated that Raytheon will be engaged in the production of weapons of this type for Poland. We are talking about AIM-120 AMRAAM all-weather medium-range guided missiles, which were adopted by the United States in 1991 year.


The Pentagon’s press service reports that similar missiles up to 2020 will be implemented in other countries. The final list is as follows: Spain, Romania, Republic of Korea, Indonesia, Japan, Morocco, Turkey, Qatar and Bahrain. Plus mentioned Poland. All of these countries (according to some, with the exception of Qatar) are already among the operators of these American missiles. The total amount of contracts is more than 0,6 billion dollars.

US to sell used air-to-air missiles to Poland?


AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles were previously used during military operations in Iraq and Yugoslavia. At the same time, the case of the so-called friendly fire of the US Air Force is also known. In 1994, in Iraq, the F-15 struck an erroneous blow to the American UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter.

In the materials of a number of Western media, it is noted that in fact we are talking about air-to-air missiles, which will by no means come out of production today. These are rockets, which are actually trying to profitably write off the Pentagon for themselves, selling them to third countries.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 29 December 2017 17: 13
    +6
    US to sell used air-to-air missiles to Poland
    Well, everyone “refreshes” supplies as best he can. And the United States has both a warrior and “allies”, as “buyers”. ENOUGH ... In their place they will lay new ones. We would have to worry about our similar missiles. The "Soviet" hurt also what was produced in Ukraine, according to our orders, the same must be changed ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 29 December 2017 17: 19
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      We would have to worry about our similar missiles.

      It’s easier for us - for the first time, our AMRAAM analogues were massively lit only in Syria. So it’s too early to write them off. smile
      And the main RVV we still have is the “butterfly” R-27, the closest analogue of which is the long-written-off “sparrow”.
      1. The_lancet
        The_lancet 29 December 2017 17: 42
        +2
        In the materials of a number of Western media it is noted that in fact we are talking about air-to-air missiles, which by no means will go out of production today

        What will be delivered was orderedThis doesn’t work differently. Raytheon does not cheat customers.
        In this case, therefore, Poland wanted to save and (maybe) take more
        1. Monos
          Monos 29 December 2017 17: 48
          +8
          US to sell used air-to-air missiles to Poland?

          Well, that is not "used." smile
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 29 December 2017 23: 22
            +2
            laughing And for some reason I thought about the “used” ones. Well, at least they sell rockets and not "rubber products No. 2" lol
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 29 December 2017 18: 00
          0
          Quote: The_Lancet
          The_Lancet Today, 17:42 ↑ New
          In the materials of a number of Western media it is noted that in fact we are talking about air-to-air missiles, which by no means will go out of production today

          What was ordered will be delivered. It doesn’t work otherwise. Raytheon does not deceive customers.
          In this case, therefore, Poland wanted to save and (maybe) take more

          It was ordered from what was OFFERED. The United States has a rich history in such sales. Argentina, at one time, sold primitive Sidewinder modifications. None of those missiles fell into the English Harriers, but the latest modifications of the Sidewind of the British shot down the Argentine Mirages and Skyhawks quite successfully.
        3. Pirogov
          Pirogov 29 December 2017 18: 12
          +1
          Quote: The_Lancet
          In this case, therefore, Poland wanted to save and (maybe) take more

          It would be more correct for Poland wanted in Washington. . The United States has such a trick. To impose any used trash on your allies and try to refuse, Warsaw is not the first and not the last. But Raytheon certainly does not deceive, they just offer that it is not possible for them to refuse .............
      2. Partyzan
        Partyzan 29 December 2017 17: 46
        +4
        gentlemen
        Well, everyone “refreshes” supplies as best he can. And the US has a warrior and "allies"

        It’s easier for us - we have AMRAAM analogues

        this is not recycling, it’s written
        Raytheon will engage in the production of such weapons for Poland.

        so it's just loading your businesses with orders
      3. svp67
        svp67 29 December 2017 17: 56
        +2
        Quote: Alexey RA
        And the main RVV we still have is the “butterfly” R-27, the closest analogue of which is the long-written-off “sparrow”

        Misfortune, complete misfortune. Having even excellent airplanes, we will lose air clashes .... Moreover, they were made at the Zavod Plant. Artem in Kiev.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 29 December 2017 20: 03
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          Misfortune, complete misfortune. With even great planes, we lose aerial clashes ....

          This is all from poverty. EMNIP, all RVV have restrictions on the number of take-offs and landings carried out with them. So ours fly with cheap modernized R-27s. Even in Syria, they flew only with the R-27 - until the Turks shot down Sushka. At the same time, the suspension capabilities of newer RVVs are.
          Quote: svp67
          Moreover, they were produced at the Plant them. Artem in Kiev.

          R-27 of all modifications (with IK, PAR, P GOS) are produced in Russia - at OJSC “State ICB“ Vympel ”named after I.I. Toropova ”(as part of KTRV JSC). They release the successor R-27.
          The main manufacturer of the R-27 from Soviet times is the Kiev Artyom GAC. In view of the profitability of R-27 KTRV export supplies, production of “non-energy” versions of this missile in Russia was launched at Vympel’s facilities. Options have been developed for upgrading the R-27 with equipping it with an active (R-27 A option) or passive (R-27 P) ​​homing radar.
          In the mid-nineties, Vympel independently set up the serial production of the export version of the R-77, designated RVV-AE, using a modified homing head, at the facilities of its pilot production. The RVV-AE missile has become an integral part of the armament of all new and modernized combat aircraft of the Su-27 and MiG-29 families and is a true KTRV export “hit”, bringing it a considerable part of the revenue. Only China acquired a total of about 1500 RVV-AE missiles. At least 800 missiles were delivered to India (export there also continues), in addition, RVV-AE were imported into a number of countries.
          Extensive work is underway to modernize the R-77 missile. For quite a long time, the use of R-77 series missiles as anti-aircraft missiles has been worked out. Since 2011, the modified versions of the R-77 should finally begin to come into service with the Russian Air Force fighters.
          © KTRV
    2. Ren
      Ren 29 December 2017 17: 23
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      The “Soviet” hurt also what was produced in Ukraine, according to our orders, the same needs to be changed ...

      So we are successfully disposing of it in Syria, before that in Georgia. There is still disposal in Ukraine, maybe in the Baltic extinctions, Poland and Japan of all sorts. wassat
      Although it may be better, like the Americans, to offer them to buy out and pay for utilization at special manufactures and landfills of the Russian Federation? wink
      1. svp67
        svp67 29 December 2017 18: 10
        +2
        Quote: Ren
        So we successfully recycle in Syria, before that in Georgia

        But I do not think that Georgia had many air targets, and Syria is the same. All these are air-to-air missiles, although Georgia did not work out badly ...
    3. System
      System 29 December 2017 17: 25
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Well, everyone “refreshes” supplies as best he can.

      But Trump is not in vain red-haired, as he deftly throws everything .. He clearly fulfills this promise .. (everyone will pay to NATO!)))
      But with the promise of "rapprochement" with Russia, it is still difficult .. But I think that something will happen in this direction!
      1. svp67
        svp67 29 December 2017 17: 30
        +3
        Quote: Sistema
        But with the promise of "rapprochement" with Russia, it is still difficult .. But I think that something will happen in this direction!

        If only in a direct collision ...
        1. Going
          Going 29 December 2017 17: 46
          +5
          Here - here, and then he was swaddled like a baby, he can’t utter a laugh.
          1. svp67
            svp67 29 December 2017 18: 12
            +2
            Quote: Going
            Here - here, and then he was swaddled like a baby, he can’t utter a laugh.

            He then .... Well, yes. He very skillfully uses the struggle on the foreign policy circuit to carry out his domestic political changes and innovations, and he succeeded significantly in this.
            1. Going
              Going 29 December 2017 18: 24
              +4
              In domestic economic affairs, yes, he did a lot.
              1. svp67
                svp67 29 December 2017 18: 34
                +1
                Quote: Going
                In domestic economic affairs, yes, he did a lot.

                And voters in the United States do not need anything else ...
                1. Going
                  Going 29 December 2017 18: 36
                  +3
                  Only the political elite is afraid and hates him; he is not from their caste.
              2. alexmach
                alexmach 30 December 2017 01: 29
                +1
                m .. and what for example?
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 30 December 2017 09: 25
                  +4
                  Alexander hi
                  and what for example?

                  For example - a holiday comes to us. good drinks
                  Threat Congratulations to the Colonel. soldier drinks Happy New Year.
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 30 December 2017 13: 07
                    +1
                    Thank you, too, with the upcoming.
      2. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 29 December 2017 18: 02
        0
        Quote: Sistema
        Sistema Today, 17:25 ↑ New
        Quote: svp67
        Well, everyone “refreshes” supplies as best he can.

        But Trump is not in vain red-haired, as he deftly throws everything .. He clearly fulfills this promise .. (everyone will pay to NATO!)))
        But with the promise of "rapprochement" with Russia, it is still difficult .. But I think that something will happen in this direction!

        As promised, it does so - it brings NATO troops closer to Russia. Is this not an "rapprochement with Russia" in the American sense, i.e. from a position of strength?
    4. katana
      katana 29 December 2017 17: 32
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      US to sell used air-to-air missiles to Poland
      Well, everyone “refreshes” supplies as best he can. And the United States has both a warrior and “allies”, as “buyers”. ENOUGH ... In their place they will lay new ones. We would have to worry about our similar missiles. The "Soviet" hurt also what was produced in Ukraine, according to our orders, the same must be changed ...

      United States - instructive masters. In the "damned 90s" smile they sent humanitarian aid to Armenia from their army supplies - wormy rice and soybeans, such hard biscuits that I chewed them with the risk of breaking my teeth, although at that time I was a young man with strong teeth, milk powder, which you can’t taste and smell, egg powder with the same properties. And I began to ask myself - how does the US Army manage to fight with such feeding? And the chest opens very simply - several years later, several deputies of the Armenian parliament found out that they sent overdue food in the form of humanitarian aid, which The US should have been destroyed. I write without sarcasm.
      1. svp67
        svp67 29 December 2017 18: 35
        +2
        Quote: katana
        they sent humanitarian aid to Armenia from their army supplies - wormy rice and soybeans, such hard biscuits that I chewed them with the risk of breaking my teeth,

        Now the addressee has changed, the whole "illiquid" goes to Ukraine ...
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 29 December 2017 19: 08
          0
          Quote: katana
          The USA are instructive owners. In the “damned 90s” smile they sent humanitarian aid to Armenia from their army supplies - wormy rice and soybeans, such hard biscuits that I chewed them with the risk of breaking my teeth

          Quote: svp67
          all "illiquid assets" goes to Ukraine ...

          Our Razmik ("katana") would also do well to throw a "fresh"! am
  2. Svarog
    Svarog 29 December 2017 17: 17
    +5
    The United States will sell to Poland "used" air-to-air missiles - well, at least not used, but just used) But they can also sell used ones, especially those like Poland, Latvia, etc.
    1. just exp
      just exp 29 December 2017 17: 26
      +1
      Yes, it’s not clear from the article whether it’s really a rocket or an aftermarket that AMRAAM still has only one, the first version, and those AMRAAM that are now in service are the same AMRAAM as in the year 91.
  3. Alexander War
    Alexander War 29 December 2017 17: 19
    +2
    laughing "Supported" missiles, overdue products and second-hand clothes, the Polish native will gladly take everything laughing
    1. Fight
      Fight 29 December 2017 17: 51
      0
      And in Russia they will not take sad
  4. flicker
    flicker 29 December 2017 17: 21
    +3
    Do not disappear "good." They will remember the American generosity. And when else will the Poles create such missiles themselves? Unless, when the cancer on the mountain whistles.
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 29 December 2017 17: 23
    +2
    Naturally, in my head the thought, as if a certain number of these missiles had not surfaced in Ukraine!
    1. Going
      Going 29 December 2017 17: 49
      +4
      Ukraine does not have the opportunity to use them, it is necessary first to modernize the remaining air forces and whether this is possible, and for what the miners do not have airplanes.
  6. Simon
    Simon 29 December 2017 17: 46
    +1
    Yeah! They dump obsolete weapons, like a dump, to the Poles, and they rejoice fool Americans also make money on this laughing
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 29 December 2017 17: 52
      0
      Campaign there and cars - the drowned people send from the United States after hurricanes!
      1. Going
        Going 29 December 2017 18: 26
        +4
        Quote: Simon
        Yeah! They dump obsolete weapons, like a dump, to the Poles, and they rejoice fool Americans also make money on this laughing


        Not just dumped, but also receive money for it.
  7. Simon
    Simon 29 December 2017 17: 52
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    The United States will sell to Poland "used" air-to-air missiles - well, at least not used, but just used) But they can also sell used ones, especially those like Poland, Latvia, etc.

    So, Poland and Latvia, and they will be happy! Outdated "Javelins" were thrown to Ukraine, so in Ukraine they are still jumping for joy! fool laughing
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 29 December 2017 17: 57
      +1
      In 404 countries must destroy all stocks of weapons and equipment of the Soviet Union! After all, they have finished with the scoop!
  8. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 29 December 2017 17: 57
    +1
    They do not deliver expired drugs to them ?! laughing
    1. Going
      Going 29 December 2017 18: 37
      +5
      No, it can to Ukraine.
  9. Lexus
    Lexus 29 December 2017 18: 41
    +2
    Straight to congratulate the Poles or what?
  10. Dormidont
    Dormidont 29 December 2017 18: 56
    +4
    If Poland is not divided for a long time, it begins to deteriorate.
  11. sabakina
    sabakina 29 December 2017 18: 58
    +3
    US to sell used air-to-air missiles to Poland

    Without a "run" in Russia !. Psheki, take it! You will not regret! Or regret it, but then.
  12. Do not care
    Do not care 29 December 2017 19: 43
    +1
    US to sell used air-to-air missiles to Poland?

    Today, 09: 09
    The official website of the US Department of Defense reports that American air-to-air missiles will be delivered to Poland on the basis of a contract. It is stated that Raytheon will engage in the production of weapons of this type for Poland.


    Does Raytheon produce used rockets?
    What is it like? The title of the article is what is it all about? But most importantly, how can such an article be discussed at all.

    “.... not so funny that he is a writer, how funny that we are readers.”
  13. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 29 December 2017 20: 44
    +2
    It is necessary to "pack" the news in such a way ...! Polish and Romanian fighter jets are armed with missiles, the very ones from which our export migrations at one time got. Routine, but at the same time, nothing positive news. However, this is so presented That this "old stuff" will be almost used. Although the missile is constantly being modernized and is actively being bought up by the US support allies in the most nodal regions of the world.
  14. K-50
    K-50 29 December 2017 21: 16
    0
    US to sell used air-to-air missiles to Poland?

    Judging because the rocket is a single-shot weapon, I rack my brains on the table: how is Karl, how do they manage to return them back to the launch guides? belay what
  15. Nemesis
    Nemesis 29 December 2017 21: 35
    0
    That's not news. Poland has no money for new weapons and no money at all, the USA gives all this on credit ... the USA plans to use Polish cannon fodder against Russia, but judging by the rallies in Warsaw, Polish tanks will soon appear in Ukraine and not in the Donbass, but in Lviv , which Poland considers to be ... Poland considers Vilnius to be its own ... I’m sure that the United States will merge these territories into Poland, as Turkey’s Cyprus was merged, blocking Greek troops and not preventing Turkey from seizing the island ... until Turkey captured half of Cyprus
  16. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 29 December 2017 22: 13
    +2
    And how many and what kind of media for AMRAAM are in Pshekia?
    1. BABAY22
      BABAY22 30 December 2017 01: 05
      0
      48 x F-16 maximum 6 pieces per side, though I don’t know if there is such a suspension option
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 30 December 2017 08: 42
        +2
        And which ones? I just won’t be surprised if the local F-16 are so “new” that they can’t use AMRAAM laughing
  17. Ramovic nedzad
    Ramovic nedzad 29 December 2017 23: 23
    0
    IF GRUDININ COME ON POWER WHATS BE IN THIS CASE. MILITARY, NUKLEAR WEAPONS.
  18. rehev931
    rehev931 30 December 2017 00: 11
    0
    The Glavbaryga will try to maximize every illiquid to any sh * avks like Poland. It’s better to sell than to stupidly blow up at a training ground ...
  19. SEER
    SEER 30 December 2017 01: 23
    0
    five points!!! the nearly-decommissioned hegemon rockets pushed to his Chaldea.
    what are the problems? "Chaldean" delighted, "hegemon" in profit. Everyone is happy ...
    app what are you talking about? "Chaldean" can spend bought, of course, until the period of "hygiene" is not over. maybe tomorrow, maybe the day after tomorrow, or maybe just at the training ground ... but we are warned :-)
    some racket horseradish-whole and hell-tenths. In short, they are not combat ready.
  20. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 30 December 2017 04: 58
    0
    Nothing political - purely baznes, they trash decommissioned trash all over the world / Hammers in dill / for disposal is expensive.
  21. PValery53
    PValery53 30 December 2017 16: 37
    0
    "Will the US sell Poland used" air-to-air missiles? "
    “And how will the Polish lords now work with American military products that smell badly (stale)?”