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Ukraine and Russia agreed on joint production of An-70 military transport aircraft

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Ukraine and Russia have agreed to jointly produce the An-70 military transport aircraft, the London weekly Jaynes Defense Weekly reported.
The agreement was reached between the Ukrainian concern "Antonov" and the Russian United Aircraft Building Corporation (UAC), writes the publication with reference to the chief designer of "Antonov" Dmitry Kivu.

On the Russian side, Voronezh will take part in the production of An-70 aviation Aircraft Engineering Association (VASO), although earlier there were reports that Ulyanovsk Aviastar-SP or Samara Aviakor would be producers of An-70.
The Ukrainian side will manufacture and supply the wing and the engine to Russia, while the Russian enterprise will manufacture the airframe, the fuselage and carry out the final assembly of the aircraft.

The An-70 military vehicle is part of the Moscow 2020 rearmament program, and the Russian Ministry of Defense plans to acquire 60 aircraft of this type.
Ukraine as part of its 5-year procurement program in 2012-2017. will acquire two An-70, which will be delivered in 2014 year.
Russia and Ukraine continue to work on the aircraft, which has been modernized since the start of this project in the 80-ies in the era of the USSR. The final stage of flight tests of the An-2012 is planned for the middle of 70.

Financial parameters of this project are not disclosed, the newspaper notes. At the same time, by the year 2013 Russia allocated for An-70 2,4 billion rubles (816 million dollars), and Ukraine - 480 million hryvnias (89 million dollars). In general, the An-70 project is estimated at over 1,5 billion dollars.
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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim April 10 2012 16: 24
    +16
    Glad for the friendship of 2 fraternal peoples. smile
    1. YARY
      YARY April 10 2012 17: 03
      +5
      It's nice to be nice too.
      But it would be worth it place an order for a new transporter let's say on Il-e or Tupolev!
      Until a historical event occurs, all orders post only at RUSSIAN enterprises.
      Because at this historical moment, "feeding" not their citizens is idiocy.
      Russia benefits from the situation in Ukraine "the worse the better." And the constant resuscitation of a sick economy of the country, whose leaders are still in ravings about independence, flirting with the West is worse than stupidity is a mistake.
      1. Num lock U.A.
        Num lock U.A. April 10 2012 17: 49
        +7
        managers tend to change, about once every 4 years smile
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 April 10 2012 17: 57
          +2
          Quote: Num Lock UA
          managers tend to change, about once every 4 years


          Only recent changes in Ukraine have not changed anything. All the same trampling on the "gas" issue, only a new economic term "fair price for gas" has appeared wassat dancing with a tambourine around the Black Sea Fleet, etc. smile Right now, Russia will invest its 816 million dollars and who will give a guarantee that it will not work, as with the Krivoy Rog plant?
          1. Num lock U.A.
            Num lock U.A. April 10 2012 18: 14
            +3
            Well, here’s how Tsoi can’t be remembered (also Victor by the way) laughing some politicians lately ... not really. One promised one, the other promised a completely different one, but somehow they don’t get along with the implementation crying in my opinion, both the west and the east (of Ukraine) are disappointed, although I am sure that both of them would like to see Ukraine as a strong power
      2. anton107798
        anton107798 April 10 2012 19: 06
        +3
        neither IL nor TU are capable of making a transport aircraft of such a class as AN, it so happened that Antonov’s whole life was engaged only in transport aviation. And basically the fleet of many post-Soviet countries is occupied by the Anami. I work at KHAPP, and I know what AN.ME is producing. AN-74-T200. Your border guards only take this car.
        1. old rocket man
          old rocket man April 10 2012 19: 42
          +2
          anton107798,
          You yourself understood what nonsense you said about abilities? IL is just capable, and the fact that Antonov Design Bureau, according to the will of the Soviet government turned out to be on the territory of Ukraine, does not say anything, I have no doubt in the merits and capabilities of this design bureau, BUT THEY ARE NOT ONE, MONOPOLITES
          1. anton107798
            anton107798 April 10 2012 20: 18
            +1
            not monopolists ... I did not write this. But whatever you say, IL only did one sensible truck ... IL-76 and all its modifications. Say it wrong? And look at Antonov’s park ... Your army is only on Anah and it is dropping equipment, Il has little strength. And if that is so ... It’s not Il that your country buys cargo planes.
            1. Don
              Don April 11 2012 14: 14
              0
              Quote: anton107798
              Your army is only on Anah and it is landing an equipment, Il has little strength.

              You are mistaken in this. Even if you look at the composition of the Russian Air Force. IL-76 - 210, and An-s about 60.
      3. old rocket man
        old rocket man April 10 2012 19: 33
        +5
        Ardent
        I agree, to finance 90% frankly not a penny project, so that later they spit on your overcoat and show a fig, and not in your pocket, to put it mildly, not quite far-sighted. Friendship, friendship, and each wife should have their own, I do not believe that Voronezh, for the same money, would not have done its project,
        Interestingly, who will supply the turbine blades for engines to Ukraine?
        1. GRU Special Forces
          GRU Special Forces April 10 2012 23: 35
          +1
          turbine blades as well as the engine are produced by ooo motor sich by the way and the engine for russian helicopters mi 28 and ka 52 for your information in Zaporizhia I worked there)
    2. vadimus
      vadimus April 10 2012 17: 08
      +3
      It is high time. Europe 60 aircraft will not buy it for sure. So it is mutually beneficial!
      1. Tatars
        Tatars April 10 2012 20: 00
        0
        And why will Ukraine do engines? Salute was about to do or UMP. The wing is also able to do it yourself.
        1. Hyppopotut
          Hyppopotut April 10 2012 23: 23
          0
          Because traditionally Ana flew on Zaporizhzhya engines! Recent modifications sometimes have no competitors in terms of power and efficiency.
          Yes, we should be glad that it is in Ukraine! At least in the east, the onnoy people have already gorged themselves with "self-respect". Maybe God will give adequate politicians to the "rozum" ...
        2. urzul
          urzul April 11 2012 08: 51
          +1
          Well, Ukraine, after all, also needs to create jobs, and even so Antonov lives off of Russian orders. Ukraine, too, should make a profit.
      2. 755962
        755962 April 10 2012 20: 40
        +2
        Just rejoice ...ANY the positive news between us ...
    3. dmitrich
      dmitrich April 10 2012 20: 06
      +1
      About 10 years ago, the Omsk governor tried to launch this aircraft in Omsk in a series, they didn’t give it. The plane is cool.
  2. Dmitriy69
    Dmitriy69 April 10 2012 16: 25
    +12
    Any news about the resumption of integration ties with fraternal Ukraine is always good!
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 April 10 2012 17: 04
      +2
      Quote: Dmitriy69
      Any news about the resumption of integration ties with fraternal Ukraine is always good!


      Confused only by the contribution of the countries Russia - 90%, Ukraine - 10%. I hope the profit will be shared with the same parameters, otherwise too many "questions" have begun to arise recently smile
  3. nokki
    nokki April 10 2012 16: 30
    +7
    As a resident of Voronezh, I’m very happy for VASO employees! Well, and for our military transport aircraft - even more so!
  4. markus112
    markus112 April 10 2012 16: 34
    +2
    totally agree
  5. Tugarin snake
    Tugarin snake April 10 2012 16: 44
    +11
    It is gratifying that gradually the understanding is coming that the aerospace industry of Ukraine can survive solely through reintegration with the Russian aviation industry.
  6. OSTAP BENDER
    OSTAP BENDER April 10 2012 16: 59
    +5
    Very good news!
  7. wolk71
    wolk71 April 10 2012 16: 59
    +3
    What will be! Ukraine began to agree.
  8. escobar
    escobar April 10 2012 17: 36
    +1
    It's good if such general contracts and projects are not dependent on the "Winds of Change" policy.
  9. Dust
    Dust April 10 2012 17: 45
    +2
    Let's hope this agreement does not break ...
  10. Num lock U.A.
    Num lock U.A. April 10 2012 17: 51
    +4
    2 planes until 2017 ... somehow "not bold", but frankly "it will not be enough"
  11. Bat1stuta
    Bat1stuta April 10 2012 17: 56
    +2
    business has gone ... the more such business ties, the greater the connection between countries in general
  12. awg75
    awg75 April 10 2012 17: 59
    +5
    You can not play with a sharpie. cheat anyway. Ukrainians are a great nation, I respect, but their leadership is just atasmin.
    1. Kievan
      Kievan April 10 2012 18: 10
      +1
      Quote: awg75
      You cannot play with a sharpie. cheat anyway. Ukrainians are a great nation, I respect, but their leadership is just atasmin.


      Well, such a class of scam we need to grow and grow, although good teachers can also grow ...

      Last week, Ukrainian officials unofficially confirmed to reporters that the head of state was annoyed when he saw the document signed by Azarov in St. Petersburg. According to them, In the interval between initiation (approval of the text) and signing, significant amendments were made to the text. “For some reason, in the process of preparing for signing, fifty product groups were included in the text, subject to exceptions and restrictions by Russia. That is, we are talking about a free trade zone, and we are signing a trade agreement very unfree, beneficial only to one of the partners. Actually, this is cheating: no amendments are made to the initialed document, ”one of the officials said. According to him, the Russian side has strengthened its position in the section on the consideration of trade disputes. But the Ukrainian delegation did not know about this: “For a number of reasons, our specialists did not participate in the work on the document. We received information from colleagues. As it turned out, incomplete, I would say, deliberately distorted information. ”

      In Kiev, they were outraged by the substitution, but for the time being they did not advertise the scandalous situation, trying to settle it through diplomatic channels. That is why, according to the interlocutor of NG, the agreement on the CIS FTZ does not get into ratification by the Verkhovna Rada
      .
      More details: http://www.ng.ru/cis/2012-04-09/7_azarov.html
      1. Aleksey67
        Aleksey67 April 10 2012 18: 15
        +1
        Quote: Kievite
        Well, such a class of scam we need to grow and grow, although good teachers can also grow ...


        So who to believe if not Azarov, remind how many times he "proclaimed" that he had agreed with Moscow on the gas price? Lying once ... laughing So much can be learned from him. wassat
        The first phrase from your link just killed
        In Ukraine, they demand the trial of the incumbent Prime Minister Mykola Azarov under the same article as ex-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. Legislation theoretically allows for the implementation of such a scenario.


        Do you think he wants to follow "Yulia's Way"? wink
        1. Num lock U.A.
          Num lock U.A. April 10 2012 18: 20
          +1
          "require" the same "persons" or is it just a scheme to work out? belay
        2. Kievan
          Kievan April 10 2012 19: 08
          0
          Quote: Aleksey67
          Do you think he wants to follow "Yulia's Way"? wink

          Already gone))) The situation is absolutely similar. As soon as the power changes, it will follow the beaten path of PR.
          But in this case, Azarov was set up by the Russians - they agreed on one thing, and signed another, although maybe there is some kind of incriminating evidence on Azarov in Moscow ...
          In any case, what confidence can there now be after such fraud?
      2. sichevik
        sichevik April 10 2012 19: 05
        +3
        Why then did Azarov sign this document? How can one party develop a document and both parties sign it? So Azarov and the company had some kind of interest of their own, since they signed this agreement. Why doesn't the prime minister of Ukraine defend the interests of his country? Or maybe he just waved the document without looking? Hard to believe. Since amendments were made without the knowledge of the Ukrainian side, it means that there was no need to sign. And then it turns out --- "we did not know", "they married me without me", "and we were not aware", but signed anyway. And then all the crooks and cheats, they deceived us ...
        So let Azarov report to the deputies of BP about his trip to St. Petersburg and how he signed the obviously unfavorable agreement for Ukraine.
        1. Kievan
          Kievan April 10 2012 19: 38
          -1
          Quote: sichevik
          And why then did Azarov sign this document?

          This is already a question for the future investigation.
          Quote: sichevik
          How can one side develop a document, but both parties sign it?

          As I understood from the article, they agreed on one edition, and slipped another on the signature. And the protocol service overlooked. In short, the yard classic of the genre is a divorce on trust. Azarov is old - 65 years old, does not understand that mores are not the same. My old people got a lamp for 100 dollars that heals everything in the world with an understandable result of treatment (in the sense, it was steamed, not in Moscow).
          And so you are right - you need to look what you sign. But these old people still think from an old habit that they seem to be dealing with relatives.
          1. Vladimir 70
            Vladimir 70 April 10 2012 20: 22
            +5
            As I understood from the article, they agreed on one edition, and they slipped another one on the signature.
            Kievite, you understand what is slipped? Yes, in such contracts every comma is checked a hundred times! It finishes me that for the last 20 years (both with the "orange", and with the "whites" and with the "blue") Ukraine will fit into, and then looking for the extreme: "they slipped it in, then they misunderstood, then we will fulfill the agreement, then we will not."...... Is Putin right that Ukraine is not a state? Recently, WE-UKRAINIANS are becoming more and more like Poles, but it’s excusable to them, these are Poles. But we, damn UKRAINIANS in the end !!!!
            1. Kievan
              Kievan April 10 2012 21: 52
              0
              Quote: Vladimir 70
              Kievite, do you understand what they slipped? Yes, in such contracts every comma is checked once a hundred!

              Something definite can be said only after a change of government and investigation. Definitely in the actions of Azarov and his Cabinet of Ministers there is a corpus delicti - excess and negligence. But for now, one thing is clear that they have signed what is not profitable, they are afraid to even submit to BP for ratification.
              Quote: Vladimir 70
              Is Putin right that Ukraine is not a state? Recently, WE-UKRAINIANS are becoming more and more like Poles, but it’s excusable to them, these are Poles. But we, damn UKRAINIANS in the end !!!!

              They also found a prophet for me)))) Moscow, too, was once a seedy little town on the edge of Russia.
              I do not know what you have against the Poles, but if Ukraine in 10-15 years equals Poland in the economy and the fight against corruption, I think this will be a great achievement.
              1. Vladimir 70
                Vladimir 70 April 11 2012 08: 39
                +2
                Kievite, you do not seem to understand the essence of my post to YOU ​​or pretended! I answered your word "slipped"... Recently (all 20 years of independence) Ukraine itself will fit into ...., and then yells to the whole world "I am not a venerable, they are themselves!" This, incidentally, is a national trait of Poles, to blame the guilty of their troubles on everyone except themselves (whether they are Germans or Russians). Now about Putin. The essence of his statement is that the state of Ukraine (no matter who is in power) cannot independently make decisions at the international level for the benefit of its state.
                1. Kievan
                  Kievan April 11 2012 11: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: Vladimir 70
                  From Kiev, you do not seem to understand the essence of my post to YOU, or pretended! I answered you on the word "slipped".

                  The article is Russian, so it’s for Russian journalists
                  Quote: Vladimir 70
                  Recently (all 20 years of independence) Ukraine itself will fit into ...., and then yells to the whole world "I am not a venerable, they are themselves!"

                  I have not heard. Can give examples.
                  Quote: Vladimir 70
                  This, incidentally, is the national trait of the Poles, to blame everyone except themselves (whether it’s Germans or Russians) for those responsible for their troubles.

                  Blaming everyone except yourself is a favorite feature of all nationalists, and Ukrainian, Polish, German, and Russian - all.

                  Quote: Vladimir 70
                  Now about Putin. The essence of his statement is that the state of Ukraine (no matter who is in power) cannot independently make international decisions for the benefit of its state.

                  In fact, with this statement, he claims that some states can independently make decisions for the benefit of their state, but Ukraine cannot. Probably precisely because it is Ukraine, and Putin does not like it and all the local presidents so much)))
                  And according to Putin’s logic, Ukraine should urgently return to Moscow’s power, because only Moscow can make decisions for it)))) The logic is as simple as the corner of a house ...

                  Threat What Putin said about Kursk, Beslan, and nat. projects? And about the fact that Russia does not need the Ukrainian GTS at all, the same thing was said many years ago. They are still trying to pick up. So do not expect from Putin the truth about Ukraine ...
                  1. Don
                    Don April 11 2012 14: 32
                    0
                    Quote: Kievite
                    In fact, with this statement, he claims that some states can independently make decisions for the benefit of their state, but Ukraine cannot. Probably precisely because it is Ukraine,

                    Putin meant that there are states that can decide everything for themselves and tell others what to do, but there are countries that go under someone else and are led from other capitals. Do you know the difference between state and country? Ukraine is clearly one of the rushing countries. And this does not change. We have some politicians with Russia, others with the EU, and others with the USA. And paradoxically, but they’re right, Ukraine can’t play for itself now, now they are playing it, because it is a bargaining chip in the foreign policy of a number of states.
                    1. Kievan
                      Kievan April 11 2012 20: 05
                      0
                      Quote: Don
                      Putin meant that there are states that can decide everything for themselves and tell others what to do, but there are countries that go under someone else and are led from other capitals.

                      Perhaps Putin by these states meant the United States and China. Since the Russian Federation sags under the PRC without even uttering a word: the transfer of islands, the prices of hydrocarbons for the PRC, agreements on border "cooperation" securing the role of raw materials of the RF before the PRC, unpunished copying of supplied weapons and their sale to third countries. Moreover, there are no pro-Chinese politicians in the Russian Federation - they buckle if necessary. And the shooting by Kadyrov of his enemies (heroes of Russia, by the way) right in Moscow under the house of the government? So it's not Putin himself who has a lot of experience about bending over.
                      Quote: Don
                      Ukraine is clearly one of the rushing countries. And this does not change.

                      Well, this is your opinion with Putin. Your common not love for Ukraine is felt in every word)))


                      By the way, the question is off topic. I have long heard that miners get 8-12 or more per month. Even according to the Kiev standard, these are very good salaries, and in Kiev prices are at least a half times higher than in the Donbass. Then why every time they show miners on TV. - These are toothless, poorly dressed people on the background of the scenery for the post-apocalyptic film. Where do they get these salaries?

                      Quote: Don
                      Oh yes there’s an investigation. Your slogans to the bandits of the prison have already passed, that's enough.

                      With yours: the bandits - the power, Ukraine will not last long. This is already tired of even everyone in the Donbass. Already in the fall you can see the result ..
                      Quote: Don
                      And since when did Poland become an economically developed state?

                      Population
                      • Evaluation (2010)
                      • density
                      38 192 000 people (34th)
                      123 people / km
                      GDP (PPP)
                      • Total (2011)
                      • Per capita
                      766,675 billion [2] $ (20th)
                      20 136 [2] $
                      GDP (nominal)
                      • Total (2011)
                      • Per capita
                      531,758 billion [2] $ (22th)
                      13 966 [2] $
                      HDI (2011) 0,813 [3] (very tall) (39th)

                      GDP is much higher than Ukrainian. And GDP growth is one of the highest in Europe over the past 10 years. Read it yourself - probably be surprised.
                      1. Don
                        Don April 13 2012 16: 30
                        0
                        Quote: Kievite
                        Since the Russian Federation sags under the PRC without even uttering a word: the transfer of islands, hydrocarbon prices for the PRC, agreements on cross-border "cooperation" that consolidate the raw material role of the RF before the PRC

                        laughing Well, you give a pancake. Russophobe will find bad in everything.
                        1. They handed over a couple of very small islands to settle perennial cross-border disputes. I have an apartment larger than these islands.) They did not represent any great value.
                        2. The price is normal. The Russian Federation said the price, she arranged the PRC, the agreement was signed.
                        3. A contract as a contract, to increase trade, but about the raw material role is simply ridiculous. How do you imagine this? What does it mean to fasten? The Russian Federation sells hydrocarbons, metals at whatever price it wants. As in general, any state can assign raw material status to someone. If in Poland they say that Ukraine is its raw materials appendage, then from this Ukraine will not become a Polish raw materials appendage.
                        Of course, I understand that you have nothing normal to say, so the RF should have been called the raw materials appendage of the PRC, but from this the RF will not be.
                        Quote: Kievite
                        unpunished copying of delivered weapons and their sale to third countries

                        For your information, China steals technology or often, without a license, copies not only from the Russian Federation, but also from the USA, Israel, and Germany. On this occasion, many states have thrown to them more than once.
                        Quote: Kievite
                        And Kadyrov’s shooting of his enemies (the heroes of Russia by the way) right in Moscow under the government’s house?

                        Kadyrov is Putin's man. It is not for nothing that he calls streets in Grozny in honor of GDP. And I’m sure who you shoot whom you don’t know, just chatting, without evidence this is an empty bazaar.
                        Quote: Kievite
                        Your common with him is not love for Ukraine

                        I just love Ukraine, of course not all its inhabitants. Bender scum for example I do not like. That's just the future of Ukraine, I see in close alliance with the Russian Federation, Kazakhstan and Belarus. Of course, you will not understand this. For you, if part of the population wants an alliance with the Russian Federation, then they are enemies, and those who want Ukraine to be a market for the EU are certainly patriots.
                        Quote: Kievite
                        I have long heard that miners get 8-12 or more per month. Even according to the Kiev standard, these are very good salaries, and in Kiev prices are at least a half times higher than in the Donbass. Then why every time they show miners on TV. - These are toothless, poorly dressed people on the background of the scenery for the post-apocalyptic film. Where do they get these salaries?

                        Miners in private mines, such as Krasnodonugol or the Komsamolets Donbass Mine, receive such salaries. State mines are mostly unprofitable (otherwise SCM or Energo would have bought them for a long time). From 7 to 18 thousand UAH not all miners receive it, but mainly miners of the mining face. You can’t even imagine what hellish work they have. They work in the face itself. They breathe coal dust, and you yourself understand the danger there, what, at any moment methane can explode. That's why they retire at the age of 40. And still high salaries from mining engineers. They are not going to work for kopanks because there is nowhere to work. There are not enough miners now. And due to the fact that for half a year, or even less, you can earn Octavia on Skoda there. On TV, if you haven’t noticed, they show the miners near the mine. What did you want to see there? Strippers, a clearing with roses and coffee? smile For comparison, watch the Discovery documentary series "Coal" about coal mining in the United States and the life of ordinary miners. All they have is better than helmets. Now, if you looked at the parking lot at the mine (for example, at the Skachinsky Mine, you would see it completely clogged with wheelbarrows. Starting from Leskus director and Mazda 6 - an engineer, to Skoda or Vazovskaya, dozens of miners of the working face.
                        Quote: Kievite
                        With yours: the bandits - the power, Ukraine will not last long.

                        And now, let’s do it without an ideology, seriously. And what doesn’t suit you? Just let’s talk about freedom of speech and censorship without tales. Social payments are regular. The living wage and minimum pension increased, of course, not by much, but what did you want in two years? Let me remind you that it took South Korea 40 years to reach the modern level. 25% of the population receives more than 4000 UAH. per month. The average salary in Ukraine is 3200 UAH.
                        Quote: Kievite
                        This is already tired of even everyone in the Donbass

                        You do not listen to the punishment of Yatsynyuk, Turchinov and the rest of the trash. I live here and know what is happening here. A small part of the electorate, of course, does not suit everyone in PR politics, but there are few of them. Like for example my nephew. Sitting in the accountants of a private company, he is not happy that he is not raising his salary. And to whom are the complaints? Yanukovych should he raise his salary? The owner of the company must raise his salary. But ordinary engineers and workers in many factories are satisfied. By the nature of my activity, I often visit Avdeevsky Coke, Azovstal, Donetskoks and communicate with many people. There are good salaries and there are still not enough specialists, the whole youth wants to be managers and marketers and does not want to understand that this market is already oversaturated with them, this year there are 14 applicants for one place in the managerial program in Donetsk. Therefore, salaries are low.
                        Quote: Kievite
                        Population
                        • Evaluation (2010)

                        I read the Polish economy, their GDP and standard of living are higher, although not by much. But we have a conversation about an economically developed state, and Poland does not apply to them. In addition, the country's economy must be evaluated not only by GDP. Poland, for example, has external debt of 50% of GDP. Sel.khoz. not in very good condition. In France, 5% of GDP is made in agriculture. and it employs 4% of the population, and in Poland 18% of the population.
              2. Don
                Don April 11 2012 14: 27
                0
                Quote: Kievite
                after a change of power and investigation.

                Oh yes there’s an investigation. Your slogans to the bandits of the prison have already passed, that's enough.
                Quote: Kievite
                I don’t know what you have against the Poles, but if Ukraine in 10-15 years equals Poland in the economy

                And since when did Poland become an economically developed state?
          2. sichevik
            sichevik April 10 2012 23: 04
            +3
            Kievites. Well, it doesn’t look like Nikolai Yanovich that he would be bred as a sucker of the latter. Not the first year in politics. Yes, and he is pretty good at economics. There they are with Viktor Fedorovich what things were doing in the Donbass, and here on you, they’ve bred like a naive cheburashka. As you wish, but I do not believe. Azarov is such an old man that he will fool anyone ...
  13. Aleksey67
    Aleksey67 April 10 2012 18: 38
    +3
    Mishiko meanwhile, the drone launched

    Georgia presented its own drone

    10 April 2012, 17: 12

    The military of Georgia on Tuesday presented their own drone, the correspondent of the newspaper VZGLYAD reports in Tbilisi with reference to the country's Ministry of Defense.
    The tests were attended by President Mikheil Saakashvili. The test site is not named.

    Take-off was carried out using a pneumatic catapult.

    The drone is assembled "based on modern technology"The authorities said in a statement. It can be used to collect data, patrol, monitor, collect photo materials, assess the state of hostilities.

    The device can fly eight hours at an altitude of three kilometers at a speed of up to 160 km per hour.

    As the newspaper VZGLYAD previously reported, Saakashvili announced the test of the drone on Monday.


    We should google the data on Israeli UAVs and then we will find out what name is sealed on it with the Georgian flag wink
    1. Num lock U.A.
      Num lock U.A. April 10 2012 18: 57
      +2
      It can be used to collect data, patrol, monitor, collect photo materials, assess the state of hostilities.


      that is, the information will not be "real time"

      All these latest news about drones reminded me of pioneers with aircraft models, just now the model with radio control and a camera
  14. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 10 2012 18: 49
    +2
    Good news!
    The fleet of transport aircraft has not been updated for a long time, Antonov Design Bureau abroad.
    I would like to hope that only the AN-70 is not limited to
  15. abeluk
    abeluk April 10 2012 18: 58
    0
    under Kuchma, the American president also promised that they would buy 400 An-70s for their aircraft instead of the Hercules. As they then jumped around on one leg around them!)))) there was pride — well, we would have our own aviation industry! !! but naturally and did not buy one nut !! cheating is the main weapon of the Americans!
    1. Kievan
      Kievan April 10 2012 19: 18
      0
      Quote: abeluk
      under Kuchma, the American president also promised that they would buy 400 An-70s for their Armed Forces instead of the Hercules.

      Where does infa come from? Perhaps Kuchma said a secret or did Bush himself admit? And then we live here and don’t know, enlighten us dense ...
      1. old rocket man
        old rocket man April 10 2012 19: 53
        +4
        Kievan,
        And you read the Kiev newspapers, go to the library, take a binder for the 90s and don’t make a fool of yourself
        1. Num lock U.A.
          Num lock U.A. April 10 2012 20: 22
          +3
          in the 90s and in Russia there were many who danced around whom, and abeluk made a mistake - a deal seemed to be planned with NATO for Europeans and planes seem to be smaller, but they decided to promote theirs, and if they threw it, then yes, yes for the 90s there was nothing surprising. The main thing is that no one should throw anyone

          and more

          call me any company in the world (and management) that would not be happy about the possibility of selling 400 (for example) aircraft

          here hezh some love to gloat smile
          1. Num lock U.A.
            Num lock U.A. April 10 2012 20: 46
            +1
            Why go far, here infa was "near"
            At the very end of the last century, 8-tion of the countries of the NATO bloc, develop common TTX to the project of the future MTC. They also announce a tender for a military transport aircraft. In it take part:
            - PTS of the project "FIMA", which was given the name "Future Large Aircraft";
            - American aircraft "Boeing C-17" and "C-130J";
            - An-7X from a joint venture of Russia, Ukraine and Europe;

            http://topwar.ru/13026-chiliyskiy-aviasalon-fidae-2012-debyutnoe-predstavlenie-e
            vropeyskogo-military-transportnika-a-400m.html
        2. Kievan
          Kievan April 10 2012 22: 15
          -1
          Quote: Old Rocketman
          And you read the Kiev newspapers, go to the library, take a binder for the 90s and do not make yourself up of principle(?)

          Have you had a medical examination for a long time?
          Let the one who claims these nonsense gives links, and not I should refute this nonsense in libraries.
          Quote: Num Lock UA
          Why go far, here infa was "near"
          At the very end of the last century, the 8 states included in the NATO bloc are developing a general performance characteristics for the project of the future military-technical cooperation. They also announce a tender for a military transport aircraft ...

          и
          Quote: abeluk
          under Kuchma, the American president also promised that they would buy 400 An-70s for their aircraft instead of the Hercules. As they then jumped around on one leg around them!)))) there was pride — well, we would have our own aviation industry! !! but naturally and did not buy one nut !! cheating is the main weapon of the Americans!

          as they say in Odessa, these are two big differences.
          By the way, a good example of news reporting about Ukraine in the Russian Federation laughing
          1. Num lock U.A.
            Num lock U.A. April 10 2012 22: 33
            0
            Yeah...
            they love Ukraine in Russia in general and Lviv in particular ... specifically
            to live here in Lviv and watch the news of the First Channel (if suddenly some "event") then another "pleasure" laughing you learn so much new "about yourself" fellow first thought - do they really believe that? belay well, not that it’s completely untrue, but somehow it’s all very one-sided, it’s all “served” ... and then you read the comments of some “comrades” (even here, for example) and you understand - they believe
            Well, yes, I'm not here to argue "who is the more ancient Slav", I am mainly interested in technology, for more than a year I "read" the site, and now I will also comment bully
      2. dmitryg
        dmitryg April 10 2012 22: 29
        -1
        Quote: Kievite
        Where infa

        Kuchma and Bush were told that in the evenings with Napoleon they play dominoes in the sixth chamber.

        Quote: abeluk
        will buy for their aircraft 400 An-70 instead of Hercules

        Hercules fly another 20 years.
      3. GRU Special Forces
        GRU Special Forces April 10 2012 23: 42
        0
        Kievan,
        Quote: Kievite
        Where does infa come from? Perhaps Kuchma said a secret or did Bush himself admit? And then we live here and don’t know, enlighten us dense ...

        from there from where and you have hamsters infa goes
    2. Num lock U.A.
      Num lock U.A. April 10 2012 22: 35
      +1
      by the way, if it comes to that, Bush (Americans) was also "thrown", infa in the same article, link - a couple of comments above laughing
  16. patriot2
    patriot2 April 10 2012 19: 39
    +2
    The positive news, although slowly, but the issue is being resolved. For our airborne troops and other troops - a necessary machine.
    Article +
  17. suharev-52
    suharev-52 April 10 2012 20: 22
    +2
    Good news. Annushka is a great plane. Sincerely.
  18. Nechai
    Nechai April 10 2012 20: 24
    0
    Quote: Old Rocketman
    Interestingly, who will supply the turbine blades for engines to Ukraine?

    Igor, the engines are turboprop. There the values ​​"P" and "T" are not overcritical. Manufacturing technologies are still mastered.
    Ulyanovsk plant, he will now be busy with heavy machines. Our Samarsky is not a member of the KLA. And it’s necessary to rebuild and equip it again. Booming hope for the future.
  19. SAVA555.IVANOV
    SAVA555.IVANOV April 10 2012 21: 03
    0
    Little by little! And as in the old days, "put in place" those who want to try our multinational fist)))))
  20. Nick
    Nick April 10 2012 21: 59
    +1
    Ukraine and Russia agreed on joint production of An-70 military transport aircraft

    Thank God! It's time to join forces.
    Time to collect stones ...
  21. Karabin
    Karabin April 10 2012 22: 57
    0
    Ukraine and Russia agreed
    With cautious optimism, I accept this news, and I would also be able to overcome the differences in other issues.
  22. kk-64
    kk-64 April 11 2012 01: 34
    -2
    if the Russians don’t take away Antonov’s KB. even though it was necessary to do this 20 years ago ...... for the shemat of shekaladnaga salu. drink it. Americanosis. as it was with smart factories. everything is standing and everything is stretched. bare walls.
  23. lotus04
    lotus04 April 11 2012 05: 12
    -1
    It is interestingly written - "MTC An-70 is part of the Moscow rearmament 2020 program"
    And where is Russia?

    http://topwar.ru/13308-ukraina-i-rossiya-dogovorilis-o-sovmestnom-proizvodstve-v

    oenno-transportnogo-aircraft-an-70.html

    Why did you need to upgrade the IL-76, which is both cheaper and more efficient. Money in the furnace again. And who so much needed the AN-70? Another sip of oxygen in production in Ukraine?
  24. abeluk
    abeluk April 11 2012 07: 50
    0
    Kievan,
    Where does infa come from? Perhaps Kuchma said a secret or did Bush himself admit? I just remember the news of that time (I lived there in the Russian Federation for 10 years)) I guess I was mistaken about the USA or NATO, but the point is that it was one of the carrots that Ukraine was dared from Russia. It was a sin, then I was happy about it ! The military-industrial complex of Ukraine (the aviation industry) is the same Ukraine without Russia; painting the bread and bread will not be the whole bread and bread! .
  25. Kolchak
    Kolchak April 11 2012 08: 35
    +1
    if such a plane will be excellent
    In addition, we need to strengthen our relations with Ukraine
    1. lotus04
      lotus04 April 13 2012 22: 41
      0
      It is necessary to strengthen, but not to the detriment of its production.
  26. phantom359
    phantom359 April 15 2012 15: 57
    0
    Finally.
  27. BorisBM
    BorisBM April 24 2012 15: 43
    0
    We do at least something good together. For the common good, so to speak. More expensive or cheaper is not so important, the main thing is together. And the fact that some people saw it is the usual way. We don’t have any protection against this .