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The Defense Ministry talked about the increase in military salaries

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Monetary allowances for military personnel and pensions for military pensioners will increase by 2018% in 2020 - 4 annually annually, Deputy Defense Minister Tatyana Shevtsova told reporters on Friday.


The Defense Ministry talked about the increase in military salaries


Monetary allowances for military personnel and pensions for military retirees will be indexed from January 1, 2018, from October 1, 2019, and from October 1, 2020, 4%
- She clarified.

The budget provides for expenses for 18, 22,6 and 41,2 billion, respectively.

Thus, from January 1 2018, the lieutenant commander of the platoon will receive an average 66,1 thousand rubles per month, which is approximately 2,5 thousand rubles more than his monthly money allowance in 2017
- noted the deputy minister.

According to her, for the officer level battalion commander (lieutenant colonel) the increase will be approximately 3,4 thousand rubles (instead of 85,3 thousand 88,7 thousand).

The growth of pensions for officers of the level of the battalion commander (lieutenant colonel) will be 947 rubles, 1932 rubles and 2956 rubles in 2018, 2019 and 2020, respectively, reports RIA News
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  1. Shura Perm
    Shura Perm 29 December 2017 15: 27 New
    +4
    Inflation is only higher than 4 percent ... but Sechin and all sorts of millers get a million a day
    1. Finches
      Finches 29 December 2017 15: 30 New
      17
      I don’t know how liberals want you, but I’ll go for this news, I’ll probably pump 100 grams ... laughing Yes, and for the health of the Supreme, perhaps!
      1. 210ox
        210ox 29 December 2017 15: 34 New
        13
        Eugene, calculate how much you lost on inflation this year ... Then you will overturn. I personally lost at least 10% in the area
        Quote: Finches
        I don’t know how liberals want you, but I’ll go for this news, I’ll probably pump 100 grams ... laughing Yes, and for the health of the Supreme, perhaps!
        1. Finches
          Finches 29 December 2017 15: 37 New
          19
          Since 2012, I’m losing on inflation, and until 2012 I didn’t have nichrome at all ... So when you lose, then there is something to lose, but when you have nothing to lose, it’s much worse! hi I understand everything, I want more and better, but remembering the 90s, when they didn’t pay beggarly money for half a year, I try to adequately assess today's day in terms of material support - we are not the United States, the ruble cannot be printed just like that .. .So that and that bread - why just whine! Miracles do not happen - we are not Ukraine! laughing
          1. 210ox
            210ox 29 December 2017 15: 42 New
            +5
            Including two presidential terms of V. Putin with high oil prices?
            Quote: Finches
            Since 2012, I’m losing on inflation, and until 2012 I didn’t have nichrome at all ... So when you lose, then there is something to lose, but when you have nothing to lose, it’s much worse! hi I understand everything, I want more and better, but remembering the 90s, when they didn’t pay beggarly money for half a year, I try to adequately assess today's day in terms of material support - we are not the United States, the ruble cannot be printed just like that .. .So that and that bread - why just whine! Miracles do not happen - we are not Ukraine! laughing
            1. Finches
              Finches 29 December 2017 15: 47 New
              +8
              Russia was lucky in this, but those who are lucky are lucky ... Here I am including about the GDP! After all, he used this situation quite correctly.
          2. Esoteric
            Esoteric 29 December 2017 16: 20 New
            12
            Quote: Finches
            I try to adequately assess today's day in terms of material support - we are not the United States, the ruble cannot be printed just like that ...

            stop Then let's do it, we will equate the military with civil servants and we will calculate the military pension based on their 100% salary for high rank, position, adding to this a bonus for long service and monetary compensation in return for food rations ... belay
            When you drink for the Supreme’s health, set his portrait in front of you and kiss ... The care of the military of his patron is still remembered ...
            1. Finches
              Finches 29 December 2017 17: 00 New
              11
              Once again I ask you what you offer? Except nonsense! I, already simplified everything to the form - everything that the GDP promised, he did, on a personal level, so far no one, including the red collective farmers, has told me that it will be better, they tell me that now everything is bad - so I, it’s possible and without collective farmers and Navalny, I know, but I know for sure that it was even worse ... So why the heck would I change the flea! I am not an enemy to myself and do not go .. from! hi
              1. Icarus
                Icarus 29 December 2017 17: 59 New
                +5
                You are carrying the nonsense, dear, although you may not go. I quit in 2002 and until the Supreme was replaced, there was never a rise in pension until 2008. I think this is not a coincidence (the special forces were not particularly respected in the troops).
                The federal law adopted that it is necessary to gradually level the monetary allowance of servicemen (pensions) with other civil servants. But then it was frozen. Maybe Zyablitsev gets contentment as a civil servant?
                1. Finches
                  Finches 29 December 2017 18: 04 New
                  +4
                  Crying, well, well! laughing Sorry, but seriously, I don’t have the strength to answer! Make your choice - it’s like in Ukraine - now everyone is happy - everyone is Europeans! laughing
                  1. Icarus
                    Icarus 29 December 2017 19: 44 New
                    +4
                    No, I'm not crying. But I do not admit injustice. FSB servicemen have salaries as civil servants. And the rest of the servicemen are blacks in the galleys? Or is it their own, and the rest is law, according to the precepts of the "great" Franco?
                2. Sewer krainiy
                  Sewer krainiy 29 December 2017 19: 59 New
                  +1
                  Of course, I wildly apologize. How is the “special forces in the troops not particularly respected” connected with the topic under discussion about increasing salaries, please explain. Well, and say ... "did not respect," why mass wink And in 2002, there were already no special departments but military counterintelligence (I am not mistaken ???).
                  1. Finches
                    Finches 29 December 2017 20: 08 New
                    +3
                    He either out of ignorance or specifically confuses God's gift with fried eggs - do not pay much attention!
                  2. Icarus
                    Icarus 29 December 2017 20: 46 New
                    +2
                    Read the previous one about salaries in equal posts and payments on a military rank in AF and FSB. Hence the disrespect in connection with social inequality, which is not only supported but also strengthened by the Supreme. First there were the Chekists, then the NKVD, then the U.S. Specialists, etc. What difference does it make to you called in the troops?
                  3. Icarus
                    Icarus 29 December 2017 20: 51 New
                    +2
                    I remember from me, starling, in 1991, the special officer of the aviation regiment took a loan of 2000 rubles. for a month (I saved up for vacation). And he returned, surprisingly, a couple of days later, exactly 25 ruble denominations. A day later, the Pavlovskaya reform on the abolition of 25 and 100 ruble bills. And how did this captain of the special department (in ZabVO) know everything a few days before the reform?
                    1. Icarus
                      Icarus 29 December 2017 21: 00 New
                      0
                      Molchunov in aviation was called specialists.
                    2. not main
                      not main 29 December 2017 22: 52 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Icarus
                      I remember from me, starling, in 1991, the special officer of the aviation regiment took a loan of 2000 rubles. for a month (I saved up for vacation). And he returned, surprisingly, a couple of days later, exactly 25 ruble denominations. A day later, the Pavlovskaya reform on the abolition of 25 and 100 ruble bills. And how did this captain of the special department (in ZabVO) know everything a few days before the reform?

                      And here is not the truth! In the 91st, 50 and 100 ruble denominations were canceled, the rest remained in circulation, including the “quarter”. For those who are “late”, “quarterly” is a 25 ruble note (Soviet!). So the trolls are pierced!
                      1. Icarus
                        Icarus 31 December 2017 07: 40 New
                        0
                        So many years have passed, maybe 50 ruble notes were. This is not the point. What does trolism have to do with it. Behind the trees you can’t see the forest.
                  4. Icarus
                    Icarus 29 December 2017 21: 09 New
                    0
                    And who are the "urine-shut up" you know?
                    1. Corporal Valera
                      Corporal Valera 30 December 2017 01: 55 New
                      0
                      Quote: Icarus
                      who are the "urine-shut up" you know?

                      Silence urine)? No, we don’t know. A typo in the training manual?
                      1. verner1967
                        verner1967 30 December 2017 10: 33 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        Silence urine)? No, we don’t know. A typo in the training manual?

                        yes ... are there really so many “informers” here? Now it’s clear why the site is red. Mansions, kontriki, silent, silent, special people, this is not a complete list of rattles in the troops of this class of burials. And who respected them except informers? Yes, even the informers did not respect, they worked for fear. Although .... maybe someone from the heart lol
              2. Esoteric
                Esoteric 29 December 2017 18: 25 New
                +9
                Quote: Finches
                Once again I ask you what you offer?

                You bring nonsense, not bothering to re-read the post over your head. There are my suggestions. To you, city (perhaps Moscow? wink ) to the Marshal, I explain on the fingers of one hand that people's discontent is caused not by the lack of money for salaries, pensions and benefits for various purposes, but by how “cleverly” the distribution of this money between citizens of various “estates” (categories) is arranged. You are not told that EVERYTHING is bad ... stop You are told that it is necessary to reduce the number of citizens of the country who live poorly ... yes Not only to those who fan the rower in the galley, not only to those who carry him food, drink, reports on the strength of the wind and the height of the waves, not only to those who are sitting nearby with more oars, but to everyone else who is swimming next to a gallery on rubber boats, or even swim ... By the way, we chose him not to row on oars, but to stand at the helm to guide the galley in the right direction. And he sat on the oars, entrusting the management to someone unknown ... belay So why the hell do I need that rower? Row and a chicken can ...
                This power and its singers in all cases cite the example of Navalny. As if this man once ruled the country. As if everyone was sleeping and seeing him as the president of Russia. And you could not resist ... Why? For example, I like the way JV Stalin resolved issues. Do you, such a right patriot, see GDP together with the use of funds to buy up US debt, when the country lacks production capacities and trained specialists for production in heavy machinery, transport, etc.? You believe that if T. Golikova reported to Stalin about financial irregularities, that:
                “If last year there were 3855 of them in the amount of 965 billion rubles, now for 11 months of the year it is already 3980 in the amount of 1,556 trillion rubles.”

                Would the decision on the perpetrators take a long time? And have there been such cases during his reign?
                And you "scratch" us according to the written:
                he did everything personally that the GDP promised, so far no one, including the red collective farmers, has told me that it will be better, they tell me that now everything is bad - so I, it’s possible without the collective farmers and Navalny, I know but I know for sure that it was even worse ...

                And I hear something completely different: "What I promised - forget what you gave - give it back." And the rest:
                1. Finches
                  Finches 29 December 2017 18: 34 New
                  +6
                  Did not try to run for President !?

                  I already wrote to you that I respect your position, but the best thing for today is to do nothing! Do you understand? Just live how we live - until 2024 ... The main thing is that there would be no war! Because no one will do anything - it’s impossible to do better, worse, how hello! That's the ficus! And that doesn’t mean that I don’t agree with you - just our agreement or disagreement with you will not change anything. And this is not defeatism, but a real assessment of the situation hi
                  1. Icarus
                    Icarus 29 December 2017 19: 53 New
                    +1
                    But will not be ashamed of the "wasted" years? because in 2024 nothing will change if it does not become much worse economically and strategically (as a result). Since either the Constitution will be changed, or the successor-substitute will be more hospitable.
                2. weksha50
                  weksha50 29 December 2017 19: 38 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Esoteric
                  By the way, we did not choose him to row on oars, but to stand at the helm to guide the galley in the right course. And he sat on the oars, entrusting the management to someone unknown ...


                  Ahem ... Somehow I didn’t think about SUCH AN INTERPRETATION of this issue ... But after all - in essence - correctly ... good
                3. Sewer krainiy
                  Sewer krainiy 29 December 2017 20: 12 New
                  +1
                  Under Stalin, the whole forest would be felled, this is the smallest, when withdrawing money over a hill.
          3. ZVS
            ZVS 29 December 2017 16: 43 New
            16
            La-ah ... It turns out that in order to accept a penny handout, like manna from heaven, you must not pay half a year to the military!
            For 5 years, the military, in violation of federal law, did not compensate for inflation, which sometimes reached 20%. And now the impoverished for five years, the military throws their hats up and shout "Vivat to the Commander-in-Chief!"
            I am ashamed of becoming an officer in Russia. Soviet officers have never been "lowered" so socially!
            1. Finches
              Finches 29 December 2017 17: 02 New
              +6
              And I will ask you a question - what do you propose to do? And you don’t take such a burden on yourself - that you are ashamed, I personally am not ashamed either for myself or for my fellow officers!
              1. ZVS
                ZVS 29 December 2017 17: 13 New
                10
                You have been raised to grovel. I understand.
                If even the officers cannot get the proper uniform, but buy at the store for their money, then what can we talk about!
                Throw hats up, shout "rya-ya", and I, as a Soviet officer, will in this case look down on you.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 29 December 2017 17: 17 New
                  +5
                  Who buys her for the money ???? You really do not write nonsense here! And I was raised well ... Once again I ask you - a Soviet officer - what do you propose specifically?
                  1. badens1111
                    badens1111 29 December 2017 17: 32 New
                    +5
                    Well, we’ll answer .. Is there inflation? Is there. Her level is higher than the handout that so far only offered? Higher.
                    Retirement Impact Ratio, in effect?
                    What is the reason for your joy?
                    And in the address of judges and others like them, there is no such coefficient, the question is, why and who is more in demand?
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 29 December 2017 17: 41 New
                      +5
                      I rejoice? "Thanks for being alive..." laughing So I rejoice! I repeat to you again - you think you will choose the red collective farmer or Navalny, op-la, by the pike command, everything will be fair and fine - no! Today, the country does not have an economic basis for instant improvements, and this is not possible, but there is inertia, positive inertia of moving forward! Yes, with many problems, but it is ... The state is fulfilling all social obligations! What else is needed? Do not bother him, if you really can’t help ... Therefore, I rejoice! A penny, but it is, but worse, when this penny is not there ... Those who write that this is a handout - so go and transfer it to orphanages, social institutions ... Refuse this state handout for a good cause! I think that it is unlikely ... including honest Soviet officers - they will receive! So is there any kind of meanness in this, or something - and get money, but will the state continue to harass?
                      1. badens1111
                        badens1111 29 December 2017 17: 46 New
                        +7
                        Quote: Finches
                        You think choose a red collective farmer or Navalny,

                        The first thing I’m not interested in is your speculation, the second one isn’t for me, the third one is already tired of being tired, the attitude to the military, including military pensioners, is like waste slag. Yes, and not only military, civilians are even worse.
                        At the same time, there is money in the country, but it turns out not about our honor.
                        Quote: Finches
                        Today, the country does not have an economic basis for instant improvements, and this is not possible, but there is inertia, positive inertia of moving forward!

                        Maybe the answer will surprise you, but it’s simple, you need to steal less, and produce millionaires with billionaires, who take all the pennies offshore.
                        Quote: Finches
                        Yes, with many problems, but it is ... The state fulfills all social obligations!

                        Blah blah blah. Do not read EP propaganda.
                        Quote: Finches
                        A penny, but it is, but worse, when this penny is not there ...

                        There’s some kind of joy .. seven with a bipod one with a spoon, one of them has caviar and boughel, and seven have a black crust and icy water, and everything is fine.
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 29 December 2017 18: 28 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Finches
                        Those who write that this is a handout - so go and transfer it to orphanages, social institutions.

                        And for some reason Putin cannot be sent. Attract with ... belay
                      3. Esoteric
                        Esoteric 29 December 2017 18: 37 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Finches
                        So is there any kind of meanness in this, or something - and get money, but will the state continue to harass?

                        Have you specifically made this or have you been appointed before the election? In Soviet times, the parent received a pension and could not get enough, continued to live in the country and praised our system, scolding grabbers and shifters like HMS. Likely it was for what ... Why should I do it now? belay
                        wink You did not reveal the secret about the place of activity. Not from Moscow, by chance? The grip is such that the rash takes:
                        You should work as an opera, father. You wouldn’t have a price. Kolchak did not serve in his youth? No? In counterintelligence? Only honestly. Well, why were we so embarrassed right away? Come on, in the eyes of me! In difficult years, spikelets from collective farm fields stole?

                        laughing lol laughing
                      4. Icarus
                        Icarus 29 December 2017 19: 59 New
                        +1
                        Do not confuse a well-deserved pension with a handout, as well as a state with the temporary power of liberals.
                  2. Dedall
                    Dedall 29 December 2017 18: 00 New
                    +2
                    Our dear ZyablintsevI think that proposed by a respected ZKV will be more like a call for riots. And I would ask you to practice 30 pieces of silver on other sites.
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 29 December 2017 18: 08 New
                      +5
                      And from whom do you get “30 pieces of silver”, I am from the state for sovereign service, for 25 years of service in the army, so it’s not at all my shame to receive them, including defending my position here! And what do you stand for - you have a determination go to the barricades? I think it’s unlikely - so stop waving cardboard sabers here! laughing hi
                      1. Vadim237
                        Vadim237 29 December 2017 19: 58 New
                        +1
                        There are no cardboard sabers - only air sabers.
                  3. Moore
                    Moore 29 December 2017 18: 20 New
                    +6
                    Quote: Finches
                    Who buys her for the money ???? You really do not write nonsense here!

                    Can I tell you who is buying?
                    Well, for example, officers of the Strategic Rocket Forces regimental link. Buy due to increased wear. Where does the wear come from? Yes, everything is from the same place: from the "leaders" who sincerely believe that the charters and orders for wearing clothing are written for anyone, but not for them. So the officer / warrant officer / contractor is dressing up for the winter VKBO, not what is supposed to, but a summer suit. And since the “chieftains” also cannot bear the appearance of a soldier without a belt (although the order unequivocally describes cases of wearing it), the soldier’s wear on the belt belts exceeds the limit. What does an advanced commando say in such cases, who wants to throw dust in the eyes of the overlying chieftains? That's right: "Tomorrow the soldiers are in leather belts!" When asked where to get them, he has a universal phrase: "You get a little?!"
                    They also use this phrase for the wonderful appearance of spare parts for equipment, repair in barracks, computers, printers, etc.
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 29 December 2017 18: 26 New
                      +4
                      I can write a lot about a separate army clowning of today, but I won’t, because it’s off topic and it’s not necessary! To exaggerate the existing small-town problems, the same I think is not advisable! hi
                      1. Moore
                        Moore 30 December 2017 10: 12 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Finches

                        To exaggerate the existing small-town problems, the same I think is not advisable! hi

                        Why is it parochial ?? Doldon to the waist of wooden not only in the Strategic Missile Forces in bulk. This is a well-known ubiquitous fact: buying for your money uniforms and requisitions for "beauty" and spare parts.
                  4. ZVS
                    ZVS 30 December 2017 12: 28 New
                    0
                    This is not bullshit. This is from the words of the current senior officer. Not only do they buy part of the uniform, but also the command forces them to take their shoes to the warehouse, because then gives them to the soldiers - not enough.
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 30 December 2017 12: 35 New
                      0
                      I, the senior officer, have no problems with uniforms, except for fittings, and I don’t buy anything else from Shoigovsky’s stickers! For the first time I hear that they are forced to buy ... or even less to take them to the warehouse! Yes, the VKBO sets that have appeared are expensive and they are handed over to warehouses upon dismissal, but this has always been the case with the introduction of new clothes, and when building capacities, all this was then written off in the usual way!
          4. weksha50
            weksha50 29 December 2017 19: 34 New
            +4
            [quote = Zyablitsov]I have been losing inflation since 2012, and until 2012, I had no nichrome at all.. [/ Quote]

            Well, about this I also wanted to tell Dmitry ... After all, until 2012 ... hmm ... I don’t even want to remember ... What indexation-compensation was discussed then?
            And so, quietly, now it turns out, as it were, a double increase, or am I mistaken? Pension indexation - once, and an increase due to increase in official salaries and salaries for the title - two ... Or did I roll my lip foolishly ???
            But if the government and Madame from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation listen, then such a picture looms ...
            [quote = Zyablitsov]So even that bread - why just whine! There are no miracles [/ Quote]

            I support, Eugene! hi
            1. LPD17
              LPD17 29 December 2017 22: 03 New
              0
              first signed raised pension
              a bit later salaries
              ... aaaaa ..... not .... cheat shorter (((!!!
          5. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 29 December 2017 23: 19 New
            +5
            Quote: Finches
            Since 2012, I’m losing on inflation, and until 2012 I didn’t have nichrome at all ... So when you lose, then there is something to lose, but when you have nothing to lose, it’s much worse! I understand everything, I want more and better, but remembering the 90s, when they didn’t pay beggarly money for half a year, I try to adequately assess today's day in terms of material support - we are not the United States, the ruble cannot be printed just like that .. .So that and that bread - why just whine! Miracles do not happen - we are not Ukraine!

            Pleased with Eugene. Issued a comment on the case and without unnecessary verbiage. I remember 8 months they didn’t give out money allowance, and when 300 rubles remained (100 rubles worth a box of matches), I went to dusk to sell a set of awnings to the garage doors that hung out at home unnecessarily. I didn’t know where to fail with shame, but I saved 15 thousand rubles, and a week later they took an elk, which helped me a lot to hold out until the beginning of the payment of arrears of monetary allowances. Now people in uniform, there is no such glory to God.
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      2. verner1967
        verner1967 29 December 2017 18: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Finches
        I don’t know how liberals are to you,

        But will there be enough allowances per 100 grams, although if there is no shmurdyak, then you, the Communists, are not used to it. And if in fact, the growth of pensions for officers, why is it envisaged at a rate of 4% for all three years, have they already planned such inflation? And where about reducing the reduction factor? In the 18th year is not planned?
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 29 December 2017 20: 29 New
        +3
        liberals
        With the word liberals you have earned ten pluses so far. But you seem to be a supporter of liberal Putin, who worships Yeltsin. So you are a liberal and worship Yeltsin.
        1. Finches
          Finches 29 December 2017 23: 27 New
          +2
          Leonid hi Do not distort! I judge by deeds - Yeltsin, the country collapsed and almost drank! The only clever thing was Putin, he dug it up somewhere ... But the GDP personally didn’t deceive me! So he, a liberal, by and large from his own words, and in business - a statesman!
    2. 210ox
      210ox 29 December 2017 15: 31 New
      +3
      Yes .. Linking the increase to a "corrected" inflation rate .. Do you want to feed your army? However, this also applies to other areas of our state ..
      Quote: Shura Perm
      Inflation is only higher than 4 percent ... but Sechin and all sorts of millers get a million a day
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 29 December 2017 15: 37 New
        +1
        The growth of pensions for officers at the level of the battalion commander (lieutenant colonel) will be 947 rubles, 1932 rubles and 2956 rubles in 2018, 2019 and 2020, respectively, RIA Novosti reports.

        And will those who continue to serve increase their pension, or only officers who have left the service? For some civilian working pensioners, for some reason, indexation of pensions is not allowed!
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 29 December 2017 15: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: SRC P-15
          The growth of pensions for officers at the level of the battalion commander (lieutenant colonel) will be 947 rubles, 1932 rubles and 2956 rubles in 2018, 2019 and 2020, respectively, RIA Novosti reports.

          And will those who continue to serve increase their pension, or only officers who have left the service? For some civilian working pensioners, for some reason, indexation of pensions is not allowed!

          Senior citizens in the army cannot continue to serve. You can work somewhere in the military unit, but as a civilian.
    3. Fitter65
      Fitter65 29 December 2017 17: 30 New
      +2
      And the percentage didn’t mean anything, and in rubles my military pension increased by 1070 rubles. But the gasoline on the Flagship went up by 40 kopecks per liter yesterday, for some 20 days from 37.80 to 39.20. This is certainly not expensive in comparison so that the oligarchs who will return capital 1% to Russia before January 13 will not be taxed, but the oligarchs who drive their cars every day and refuel it with gasoline compensate for this shortage of money to the budget.
    4. Prisoner
      Prisoner 29 December 2017 19: 08 New
      +3
      "Envy is not a good feeling" (c) winked Although it is not a fact that somewhere there some kind of millionaire Miller will not envy Shura Perm, that he has time on social networks. laughing And so, "who studied what." Good news for our little brothers.
  2. svp67
    svp67 29 December 2017 15: 29 New
    +8
    Monetary allowances for military personnel and pensions for military pensioners will increase by 2018% in 2020 - 4 annually annually, Deputy Defense Minister Tatyana Shevtsova told reporters on Friday.
    Tatyana Viktorovna, I am wildly sorry, but if in the coming years inflation will be MORE than 4%, how can this be? Yes and it’s dishonest with the PENSIONERS that you do. 4%, this is due to an increase in the salaries of military personnel, but what about bringing% to the previously declared? Everything is already FORGOTTEN
  3. trophy
    trophy 29 December 2017 15: 35 New
    +6
    It looks like the lieutenant commander of the platoon for Shevtsova, master of sports, doctor of science, parachutes every day, plunges on a nuclear submarine and this is all in the center of Moscow, which for some reason is located in the Murmansk region.
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 29 December 2017 15: 40 New
    +2
    It will be good for the military if the MO confirms his story with deed!
  5. Observer2014
    Observer2014 29 December 2017 15: 49 New
    +5
    The Defense Ministry talked about the increase in military salaries
    From the heart. Glad for you good My generation and I are strangers at this celebration of life. We must work. Plow! To feed families. While your commander-in-chief legion of Uzbeks has employed in the country. What do you think why Uzbeks (for example) work in such numbers repeat Perhaps the climate suits us. Or the "Shamakhan queen" Nashamahanil so that already because of the terrorist acts they created in Russia. They began to call them "natives of Central Asia"
  6. razved
    razved 29 December 2017 16: 01 New
    +6
    Indexing and salary increases are two different things. Indexation is carried out in accordance with the size of inflation, and the increase in salary by position and rank occurs regardless of inflation.
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 29 December 2017 17: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: razved
      Indexing and salary increases are two different things. Indexation is carried out in accordance with the size of inflation, and the increase in salary by position and rank occurs regardless of inflation.

      PLEASURE, MORE DETAILS. IF YOU CAN. laughing
      1. razved
        razved 29 December 2017 18: 24 New
        +3
        There is a provision on indexation in one of the “military” laws (I don’t remember which one, but there is a desire, you can delve into it specifically, including on the Internet), according to which ANNUAL indexation is carried out, equal to the size of annual inflation . Those. if inflation is 10 percent, then indexation is 10 percent; if inflation is 5, then indexation is 5. Well, that’s understandable. However, since some time, this provision has been suspended by a specially adopted law. Now the increase, what they like to talk about ... So this same increase is carried out regardless of the size of inflation, and generally independently of it. Roughly speaking, there is money - there is a rise. And our media write indexation, then increase. Moreover, they write without understanding the issue themselves.
        Hope that answered ...
  7. Iline
    Iline 29 December 2017 16: 10 New
    +3
    The growth of pensions for officers of the level of the battalion commander (lieutenant colonel) will be 947 rubles, 1932 rubles and 2956 rubles in 2018, 2019 and 2020, respectively,

    That's how arithmetic in MO is really bad. I don’t even know how they cope with high-tech weapons there. How is 1932 rubles more than 947 rubles by 4%? Well and further on in the text.
    Recently, those who hold power promise one manna from heaven, but turning it on doesn’t work. Yes, and in the discussion of the topic, I look, some do not dive deeply, immediately they start to scream “cheers”.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 29 December 2017 21: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Iline
      How is 1932 rubles more than 947 rubles by 4%?

      Everything with arithmetic is normal. You just need to read carefully. 4% is considered not from 947 rubles, but from the entire pension. In my opinion it is clearly written that this year the pension will increase by 947 rubles, which makes up these 4% of the entire pension.
      1. Iline
        Iline 30 December 2017 08: 09 New
        0
        Yes, I think normally, tomorrow it’s exactly 9 years tomorrow. If the basis of the pension (official salary, military salary, and length of service) change by 4%, then the pensions also change by exactly 4%, and not more than 2 times. Roughly speaking, if there was a pension of 100 rubles, then with an increase in military personnel by 4%, it will increase by 4 rubles. That proved the payment for January.
        If they want to have the proportions issued “to the mountain”, then to the calculation of the pension it is necessary to legislatively add all other payments to servicemen who are not currently involved in this process (class, secrecy, etc.). But the current government will by no means agree to this - not for this reason these payments were thought of.
        There is another option with an increase in the castration coefficient of pensions from the current 72% according to the forgotten presidential decree, but the budget law for the next three years clearly states “from the dead donkey you ears,” dear military pensioners.
        So the given Shvetsovy calculations - complete nonsense.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 30 December 2017 13: 35 New
          0
          Quote: Iline
          Yes, I think normally, tomorrow it’s exactly 9 years tomorrow.

          I have a longer retirement experience. Dismissed to the reserve by the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy of the USSR in 1991. (I do not change my pension and military card with the stamps of the USSR Ministry of Defense) So, you calculate how much your pension has increased compared to last year's pension. For example, for me, it increased by 4% compared to last year's PENSION, and not to my official salary, rank and length of service. As they say, "do not roll your lips," dear colleague. Nobody will ever recount your pension to you as a percentage of the monetary allowance that you received in the service. You received, for example, a pension of 20 ty, so you will receive an increase of 4% of this amount = 800 rubles, but not from your former salary, title, length of service ...
          1. Iline
            Iline 30 December 2017 14: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Piramidon
            so you’ll get an increase of 4% of this amount = 800 rubles, but not from your former salary, rank, length of service ..

            So I'm pretty much the same. Only according to the law, the pension is calculated at the current stage from the current salaries of military personnel - they are increased by 4%, and accordingly our pension is increased by 4%. And it is possible to calculate an increase in the same 4% from your old pension. This will give the same result. True, I have a bit more complicated with this, like WBD. There is still a certain amount for the hostilities added, but it is considered somewhat different. But this is not important.
            The question is different - in the phrase in the article
            The growth of pensions for officers at the level of battalion commander (lieutenant colonel) will be 947 rubles, 1932 rubles and 2956 rubles in 2018, 2019 and 2020, respectively
            . You and I understand implicitly that this is said about the level of pensions in 2017, although such an interpretation of the issue is incorrect. So you can compare with the same year 2011, the increase would be even more impressive. And a civilian will read how he understands? But it’s very simple - in 2018, 947 rubles will be thrown into the military, in 2019 another 1932 rubles, and in 2020 as much as 2956 rubles. So the question arises: either they deliberately drive a wedge between the military and civilians, or, as often happens, the journalists cut the interview a little, or Shevtsova does not follow her own words.
  8. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 29 December 2017 16: 21 New
    +5
    Hmm, we have a lieutenant about 30k gets at best. And even then, you don’t really get a job, you want to get a more or less normal position in the NM - only with a decrease in rank. And this despite the fact that there is a non-fake chance to die on the front end.
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 29 December 2017 17: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Sands Career General
      Hmm, we have a lieutenant about 30k gets at best.

      And where is it with YOU? If it’s not a secret of course. I have a nephew of ml.s.t, about 40 without 1010, a mechanic in a squadron. My niece has a husband s, t, an autopilot lock if there are no jambs in the platoon and physically excellent 76-80 He brings home, though the first length of service is 3 years, the second has 8 years.
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 29 December 2017 18: 00 New
        +4
        In our country, the flag of New Russia is visible near the name?
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 29 December 2017 18: 08 New
          +4
          Quote: Sands Career General
          In our country, the flag of New Russia is visible near the name?

          Nothing personal, but I would like to know, and where does the increase in salaries and pensions for / employees of the Russian Federation and Novorossia? Of course, when its historical areas illegally alienated from Russia return home like Crimea, then probably the Armed Forces of Novorossia can count on higher salaries in accordance with Russian legislation, I hope of course soon. And God forbid, be quick .... hi
          1. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 29 December 2017 18: 22 New
            +5
            Nothing to do with it, I just shared the information so that people had at least some idea of ​​life with us. This is clear?

            Our main problem is not even salary, but that our curators and fathers-commanders finally decide who we are and with whom, the people are tired of hanging out between heaven and earth.
            All for being with Russia. But as long as Ukraine is unitary, it does not shine for us, to be a part of Russia.
          2. Rushnairfors
            Rushnairfors 29 December 2017 18: 24 New
            +3
            Sergeant, deputy commander of platoon-80t.r. and 8 years of service ???? And if it's not a secret, where does he serve? In the Arctic? Well then I will believe it + if Fizo takes it to the tower. But I don’t believe it. The commander of the ship on a tu22m3 major with 19t.r. in the west 80 gets. Major !!!! OUS-70%, secret, flight and infantry class- and 80000.
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 30 December 2017 13: 57 New
          0
          Quote: Sands Career General
          In our country, the flag of New Russia is visible near the name?

          Some have the British flag here, but they beat themselves in the chest with a hoof and claim that they are the indigenous "Ryazan people". Moreover, they run into the subject of the fact that I do not understand anything about the "proxy".
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          2. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 30 December 2017 14: 19 New
            +4
            Have some questions?)))
  9. ZVS
    ZVS 29 December 2017 16: 30 New
    +6
    Five years did not compensate for inflation, but here, as an achievement, they serve 4% as a merit of the country's leadership.
    When will the miscalculations of the country's leadership cease to be presented as merit and good intentions ?!
  10. Vard
    Vard 29 December 2017 16: 55 New
    0
    Everyone's wages are raised ... Except for hard workers ... Just like in a fairy tale ... Who does not work ... He eats ...
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 29 December 2017 17: 20 New
      +3
      Someone who works all day has no time to make money. laughing
    2. Fitter65
      Fitter65 29 December 2017 17: 57 New
      +2
      // The Ministry of Defense told about the increase in the salaries of the military ///
      Quote: Vard
      Everyone's wages are raised ... Except for hard workers ... Just like in a fairy tale ... Who does not work ... He eats ...

      Not only do the military do not work, they do not sleep and spend their health so that you can work where you want, as much as you want, and for this you would still receive the corresponding amounts of nishtyaks. And if the Russian military were not there, you would work wherever you ordered how much work you would be instructed, if the norms were fulfilled you would even be fed. If you don’t want to feed your army, go on an excursion to Auschwitz there are very good exhibits that tell how a foreign army feeds and lives on your land.
    3. Berkut154
      Berkut154 29 December 2017 18: 04 New
      +3
      Who's not working? Military? How did such statements end in the late 80s need to be reminded?
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 30 December 2017 02: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Berkut154
        Who's not working? Military? How did such statements end in the late 80s need to be reminded?

        If you read carefully, then I'm just talking about the fact that if the "non-working" Russian military, the hard workers would have plowed like powerless slaves ... I myself went into the army in 1983 and until August 2015 was a military man ...
    4. shura7782
      shura7782 29 December 2017 18: 10 New
      0
      Hard workers in this matter should be at the forefront of the entire planet. Unfortunately, they do not hear you there, and should not only hear, but also be afraid.
    5. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 December 2017 20: 05 New
      +2
      And in Russia, most of the hard workers work for private traders, and even in the black - the state cannot raise their salaries.
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 29 December 2017 21: 13 New
        0
        We are not talking about those who are on free bread.
  11. shura7782
    shura7782 29 December 2017 17: 36 New
    +6
    Increase in pensions for officers of the battalion commander level.
    My level is indicated. Only the difference between the declared and received is 25% less. There was no trust in Eltsenoid's power, and there is no. Deceived. They threw a bone in the kennel before the elections and calmed down.
    1. verner1967
      verner1967 29 December 2017 18: 56 New
      0
      Quote: shura7782
      My level is indicated. Only the difference between the declared and received is 25% less.

      strange, my 1200 increase came out
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 29 December 2017 19: 34 New
        0
        If you are satisfied, then everything is fine.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 29 December 2017 21: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: shura7782
          If you are satisfied

          not if .., more precisely, not satisfied
          1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
            Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 29 December 2017 22: 32 New
            +1
            Well, that's right, if our brothers were to be ranked among civil servants (they received 100% of the due pension), I would receive 9 thousand more every month, and so another handout ...
  12. q75agent
    q75agent 29 December 2017 17: 45 New
    0
    Quote: Finches
    Who buys her for the money ???? You really do not write nonsense here!

    the Ministry of Internal Affairs bought it a fact !!! And they made her buy.
    1. Finches
      Finches 29 December 2017 17: 49 New
      0
      And what does the Ministry of Internal Affairs have to do with it ??
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 29 December 2017 18: 27 New
        +1
        In the army, they also buy uniforms, although the last 3 years have become better. Even "chevrets" give re
        1. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 29 December 2017 18: 30 New
          +4
          They began to give them regularly, they began to give out winter shoes - for the first time in almost 15 years I received officer's winter shoes. The office is given without a bazaar. A new hat was issued. Guys do not think not whining, but in fact there were problems with clothes until recently. I don’t know what we can do in Siberia, but in the West everything is tip-top.
    2. Icarus
      Icarus 29 December 2017 18: 16 New
      0
      The Ministry of Emergencies has also been buying uniforms since the time of Shoigu, for their own (according to friends).
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 29 December 2017 18: 52 New
        +3
        By the way, I remember a long time ago before the arrival of Kuzhugetich, we "worked" at the point of the Ministry of Emergency Situations - one il76 and be200, and a couple more worked from Bratsk, not the point. So they told us, guys, do not rejoice too much Shoigu, he has a quirk in the shape of his clothes, stripes, chevrons, and other paraphernalia. So it is - we don't have time for the army fashion at all - the stripes on the overalls were square with yellow inscriptions, then oblong with blue and a bird, then dark blue without a bird, then the same but without edging, the emblems were already modified 3 times - it was just wings , then the wings and the propeller, then the wings and a star in the center of an incomprehensible 6-coal (VKS type), now they have returned to the corrugated stars (like in the Union) - the old ones did not please? The office received the first time - on the left sleeve on top there was a semicircular chevron with a flag - after half a year they said otporot. S VKPO is also fun (well at least they gave it up, they told the flyers and ITS is not allowed) In short - Yudashkin and Zaitsev are resting. Glory to military designers. Oh yes, I forgot about the parade with the riser !!! True, half of us do not have the previous version, but this is a trifle, next year the suitcase beats with a brow that we will get a new one!
        1. Icarus
          Icarus 29 December 2017 20: 19 New
          +2
          Do you have any idea why the patches change regularly? Maybe you need to dig, who got the contracts for the state purchase of these updates in the form? Or maybe stupid - kickbacks.
  13. Finches
    Finches 29 December 2017 17: 49 New
    +3
    badens1111,
    I beg your pardon, you whiners and no one else - and here is the EP propaganda! What can you offer besides the whining of the person who has set my teeth on edge here ?? You never answered me! And nobody answers! I personally don't know what to do, so I decided for myself that the best is the enemy of the good! And you whine, whine, whine ... If it is easier for you, please continue! hi
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 29 December 2017 19: 38 New
      +1
      The recipe is simple. Expel the Attorney General and deputies. other prosecutors through a lie detector. the same with the Ministry of Internal Affairs. and I assure you. business will go. Thieves bankers will stop dumping over the hill (they will have time to put them in jail). Colonels will disappear - billionaires and so on. e Make the ministerial report obligatory at least once a year so that everyone's crap is visible. There are many ways. there would be a desire. I am not against the GDP. I am for him to take up the country's economy. and not all siluans with ulyukai. We don't have smart people?
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 29 December 2017 20: 33 New
        0
        Cossack 471
        The recipe is simple.

        good good drinks

        Although I am not a Stalinist, I fully support ... And the program is short and absolutely presidential! [b] [/ b] laughing hi
      2. Icarus
        Icarus 29 December 2017 21: 21 New
        +3
        Wrong answer. The fish goes out from the head. Periodic irremovability of the supreme power (with the declaration of elective democracy) gives rise to impunity for the corruption of the highest echelons of power and the power's lack of control over the law. And the prosecutors are looking at the supreme power. If they can, why can't the prosecutor's office? And so throughout the country along the downward vertical. The correct answer is either honest - elective democracy, or honest monarchy. You cannot be slightly pregnant.
      3. kapitan92
        kapitan92 29 December 2017 23: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: Cossack 471
        Expel the Attorney General and deputies. other prosecutors through a lie detector. the same with the Ministry of Internal Affairs. and I assure you. business will go. Thieves bankers will stop dumping over the hill (they will have time to put them in jail). Colonels will disappear - billionaires and so on. e Make the ministerial report mandatory at least once a year so that everyone's crap is visible

        Do not be offended, but THIS sounds very naive.! The system cannot be defeated by detectors! According to your logic: give a position to Gene. the prosecutor to an honest person and the entire prosecutor's office will be "crystals", or you naively believe that there was no corruption in the USSR, in the same Ministry of Internal Affairs (Shchelokov) or the prosecutor's office. Who wrote Pravda or Trud about her? So the recipe is complicated, you can't solve it from the top.
        Quote: Cossack 471
        There are many ways. there would be a desire

        Desire can and is, but the possibilities are hard. The layout is complicated!

        Quote: Cossack 471
        .I am not against GDP. I am for him to take up the country's economy. and not all siluans with ulyukai. We don't have smart people?

        Here I agree with you! The economy is being bought out by the liberals. There are enough smart, competent, sensible, but it is very difficult to step over the "system"! (IMHO)
    2. Icarus
      Icarus 29 December 2017 20: 24 New
      0
      Yes, no one whines, dear. Lying is not acceptable, unlike you.
  14. cannabis
    cannabis 29 December 2017 17: 56 New
    +1
    Not salaries, but pay or salary in the old way. A soldier does not work, even if he digs and saws, he SERVES,
    1. Finches
      Finches 29 December 2017 18: 10 New
      +2
      Remembered! Somehow it happened to be present at a reception at Patriarch Alexy II, as part of the delegation of commanders of LenVo units, and so he said - not literally - "Only we and you serve, and the rest are working!" laughing
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 29 December 2017 18: 41 New
        0
        They also serve in the theater ...
      2. Dedall
        Dedall 29 December 2017 19: 22 New
        +1
        Yeah, and somewhere else he said that the military is always on duty and observance of the Fast does not concern them. Looking at his figure, one can say that in this he equated himself with the military.
  15. VladGashek
    VladGashek 29 December 2017 18: 16 New
    0
    Good news. But where is the promised increase rate of 2012% annually in 2? In 2011, he quit with 38 calendar years of service and 85% percent of service. In 2012, after revising the paycheck, the percentage of length of service was reduced to 49%. At the same time, it was emphasized that 2% of the increasing coefficient will be charged annually. This operation was done two or three times, but from 2015 to 2017 it was not. And it turns out, who served 38 years and who 22 years, the calculation of the size of the pension is equivalent for equivalent positions. It would be necessary in such a situation, according to the length of service, to drive servicemen to retirement, so that the thought of some percentage does not arise. 40-45% and that's it, no talk, no offense. Otherwise, it turns out whoever served for 25 years and then worked in civilian life for another 15 years, here are two pensions for you: military and civil. And if you served 38 years and retired at the age of 60, when it is difficult to get a job in civilian life, and you need to forget about the civilian pension. Demagogy
    and selfishness is. No need for fantasies for 2019, 2020 and beyond. Pensions were indexed - thanks to the state and the United Russia party. And no discussion on this.
  16. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 29 December 2017 18: 24 New
    +4
    The pension increase is wonderful. However, from 01.10. 2019 and 01.10. 2020 is somehow not very inspiring. Do you know age and health. Increase from 01.01. each year is more understandable. And even against the background of the pension provision for military judges and prosecutors, it is generally a shame.
  17. Finches
    Finches 29 December 2017 18: 44 New
    +4
    Esoteric,
    I've told about myself a thousand times here - don't be lazy, you will find out everything right from the pages of IN!"Tired of talking and arguing ..." Take it for granted - today I am a firm supporter of GDP and I see no alternative!
  18. seacap
    seacap 29 December 2017 18: 55 New
    0
    Have you forgotten anything about restoring justice and eliminating humiliating discrimination on the basis of professionalism of senior military personnel? Well, of course, an official, a civil servant is a more dangerous and harmful profession, and it's hard to sit in an office, and most importantly, it is more responsible than defending the Motherland, war and service in garrisons this is for suckers, so entertainment and toys.
  19. gurzuf
    gurzuf 29 December 2017 19: 42 New
    0
    badens1111,
    This is really - blah blah blah.
  20. weksha50
    weksha50 29 December 2017 19: 44 New
    0
    Mordvin 3,
    [quote = Mordvin 3] [quote = Zyablitsev]
    And for some reason, Putin cannot be sent. Will be attracted with. belay[/ Quote]

    To rowing on galleys ... lol
  21. Icarus
    Icarus 29 December 2017 20: 03 New
    0
    Icarus,
    This refers to Zyablitsev
  22. weksha50
    weksha50 29 December 2017 20: 15 New
    +2
    badens1111,
    "It is necessary to steal less, but to procreate millionaires with billionaires who take all the pennies to offshore" ...

    Here you clashed - and Zyablitsev (Eugene), and 210kV (Dmitry), and the people also speak out ... And, the strangest thing, because almost each of you is right in something ...
    So I ask you: do we need to dog among ourselves? Here ... things are not resolved that way ...
    Near his neighbors in the Far East (in China), Xi Jinping led a good company ... Relying on the army and the State Guard ... As opposed to the State Council and the pro-American government ... It would be good if Putin looked closely, plucked up the courage, and even pindyuril for those who have been asking for it for a long time ...
    1. Finches
      Finches 29 December 2017 23: 36 New
      +2
      George, hi write correctly, but nevertheless, very well, though when people do not turn into discussions and without rudeness, there is an opportunity to explain your position and argue! See the arguments of others ..., try to understand or comprehend them - after all, indeed, in disputes, truth is born! You will learn something new for yourself ... I think that in general we have a healthy environment here at VO! There are certainly exceptions, but thank God they are rare!
  23. asushnik 78
    asushnik 78 29 December 2017 20: 40 New
    0
    Everyone, starting with the Supreme, is deceiving both military and military pensioners! Instead of fulfilling the laws on monetary allowances for military personnel and their pensions, they throw a handout in the form of 4% and a huge gratitude (which you can't put in your pocket or pour into a glass) for the exemplary performance of combat missions in Syria! The cynicism of the Supreme Power is off the charts!
  24. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 29 December 2017 20: 54 New
    +3
    I will say so, in Soviet times, the maximum pension for a super-conscript (warrant officer, midshipman) was 150 rubles, officers, including the major. - 250 rubles. Senior officers, generals (admirals) - I don't remember. The average civilian pension is about 60-80 rubles, the personal state pension is about 130 rubles. When we went to serve in the personnel service, we will say so - we knew what we were doing ... In general, civilians will soon overtake us (compare in percentage terms).
  25. faterdom
    faterdom 29 December 2017 21: 19 New
    +3
    Quote: weksha50
    And so, quietly, now it turns out, as it were, a double increase, or am I mistaken? Pension indexation - once, and an increase due to increase in official salaries and salaries for the title - two ... Or did I roll my lip foolishly ???

    There will be no increase in the pension (in the sense of canceling or increasing the reduction coefficient of 72%). Only the indexation of the official salary and rank by 4%, both for the current one, as a result of the system for calculating pensions from these parameters - for pensioners. I already got the January one. 4% more (for me personally, 1440r).
    That something like this.
  26. faterdom
    faterdom 29 December 2017 21: 22 New
    +2
    Quote: Sewer Krainiy
    I will say so, in Soviet times, the maximum pension for a super-conscript (warrant officer, midshipman) was 150 rubles, officers, including the major. - 250 rubles. Senior officers, generals (admirals) - I don't remember. The average civilian pension is about 60-80 rubles, the personal state pension is about 130 rubles. When we went to serve in the personnel service, we will say so - we knew what we were doing ... In general, civilians will soon overtake us (compare in percentage terms).

    According to the military legislation of the USSR, the ceiling for junior officers was 200 rubles. For the elders - 350. For the generals - I don't remember.
    But, one feature is that the same ceiling also affected the total income, when a military pensioner continued to work in civilian life. That is, the total income from pensions and pay was still cut to this ceiling.
  27. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 30 December 2017 00: 46 New
    0
    Everything is as usual: "people living at the" cost of living "have set the rest of the" cost of living "(c)
    Why inflation is 4% ?? The cry was that deflation))) But the strange thing is that prices are rising ((
  28. Finches
    Finches 30 December 2017 10: 28 New
    0
    Moore,
    There are enough Doldons everywhere - this is how the mudflow is! laughing
  29. Dzungar
    Dzungar 30 December 2017 13: 31 New
    0
    Let's get rich ...
  30. PValery53
    PValery53 30 December 2017 16: 40 New
    0
    Something in the Ministry of Labor is "late" with the message about the increase in the salaries of civilian workers ...
  31. demokrat86
    demokrat86 31 December 2017 21: 04 New
    0
    I am an officer of the FOGO and you will not believe I have a salary at the level of officers of the Ministry of Defense, so let's not talk about the FSB and so on, but about such a advertised increase, as much as 4 percent ... let them shove it up their ass, it's more like a spit to the side army, a handout so that the mouth does not open