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Results of the week. “Soon we will say:“ Happy New Year! ”

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Team: "Gaza!"


President of Ukraine after the decision of the Stockholm arbitration:
They (Russians) are knocking: maybe take our gas? No, we are fine. If he is cheap, if he is honest and non-corrupt, please. And what is it for us? To lower tariffs for our people.






Poroshenko turns ... Poroshenko turns ... uh-uh ... into the president of Ukraine, who is fundamentally not against buying gas from a country with which he, according to his own statements, has been fighting for the fourth year now.

If you translate Peter Alekseevich into an open-source language, you get something like: Yes, we are waging a war against Russia, but at the same time we are ready to buy gas from Russia so that the tariff load on Ukrainians becomes lower ...

Five points! ”Super! Speak SURE ...

Comments from our readers:

210ox
This clown sighed freely. The arbitration did not fully support the claim of "Gazprom" ... For it would be quite sad. And now, again, you can not pay and take on the cheap. And that the "aggressor", then who cares about it, only the most stubborn ...


Katana
I did not understand the joy of the members of the forum regarding the court decision - after all, by this decision, to put it simply, Gazprom was "bent down" and kicked in the ass. And the forum users here joking and joking. About the behavior of the members of the forum in ancient times they said - "feast during the plague". I have only one hope - that the leadership of Russia will remember that the national Russian laws are dominant over international ones and do not recognize and do not comply with this court decision, recalling that Russia somehow rose from its knees since 2014, according to the leadership.


Nyrobsky
What is Gazprom bent over? It is clearly written -
After the decision of the Stockholm arbitration, Ukraine has to return to direct gas purchases from Gazprom
A year and a half ago, Ukraine put up for sale a lot in the form of a meter piece of pipe welded from both sides, in which they claimed was the last cube of “Ahressor” gas purchased by Ukraine. Along the way, in order not to patch the entire Ukrainian gas transportation system on such symbolic pieces, the Stockholm court obliged Durkain to buy gas in order to preserve transit after 2019, which Europe wants to convince Russia of. a one-time loss of 2 billion dollars received by Cuev for transit cannot be compensated for in any way. Moreover, by the decision of the Stockholm court, Ukraine is obliged to pay Russia more than 2 billion dollars for the contracted gas, even if it does not physically take it.


serega61
I think that 56 of billions was just a banter from Gazprom. They are well aware that all of Ukraine does not cost so much, and, in principle, they have not lost anything.


More medals, more orders! ..

If we believe our mass media, in which lately high state officials have acted in unison, assuring each other that we do not care for sanctions, import substitution is in full development, and everything else. The crisis is over, we will win. Final and unconditional.

Results of the week. “Soon we will say:“ Happy New Year! ”




And we are categorically for our oligarchs to have more and more state awards on their chests — medals, orders, but heavier and heavier. Maybe, at least in this case, it is likely that the ground under their feet, walking along the cracking budgets of ordinary citizens, will open up ... and then something about the fiery hell ... Although, if by and large, they and they will find there, how and with whom to agree ...

Comments from our readers:

Olegfbi
If we take the problem seriously, the question of the adequacy and integrity of the economic policy of the Russian government immediately comes to mind.
The topic of keeping our reserves in US dollars was discussed many times ... This is a separate and HUGE topic, but the behavior of the oligarch described in the article smacks of betrayal! I'd like to believe that treason will not go unpunished!
With all this, in my opinion, the liberal behavior of some individuals in power and big business (we will not point the finger) requires, at a minimum, verification by state security agencies.


Vadim237
Uralvagonzavod was packed with orders, with the same six thousand railway platforms for the Ministry of Defense, the order for which was concluded at the beginning of this year, for at least three years, and the private owner flew by.


Sotskiy
Is this not the “Uralvagonzavod”, which the private “Alfa-Bank” almost went bankrupt before attempting to suspend production? Or do we have two "Uralvagonzavod"? Maybe explain how a strategic defense enterprise "village" on loans to private traders, who in turn almost frustrated the implementation of the state defense order? Where "our eyes marveled?"


When dumb boilers

Despite the fact that in comments to numerous analytical publications and reviews of the operational situation on the fronts of the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics, one can still find ardent supporters of the Minsk and Norman formats that have outlived themselves, the tough military-political reality continues to dictate its own “big game”, where our western “partners” masterfully fool the Russian side and the republic’s military leaderships are already 3. What results from participation in all these “peaceful actions” we observed by the end of the current year?





Against this background, Ukroboronprom reported on 100% implementation of the state defense order. It is a rare case even for the developed countries of the world, and for Ukraine ... In general, not everyone believed, especially in Ukraine itself. However, in any case, there will be one real yes for five paper armored personnel carriers. And therefore, little by little, the equipment of the APU is growing, and not to recognize this is stupid. Lack of boilers favors. Well, the Russian love of peace in relation to the authorities of the state, being dragged into the ongoing conflict at the borders of the Russian Federation.

Comments from our readers:

horhe48
Now you don’t leave anyone in hats. But it is necessary to prepare seriously. And without any buildup. Whether the Ukrainians want it or not, shtatovskie hawks will still force them to attack the Donbass before the election of the Russian president. Most likely in January and February. More precisely, let determine intelligence. The EU-sheep, hiding behind all those “minskami” there, gave Valtsman and co time to prepare the “Croatian scenario”. And the states are in a hurry. Everything is coordinated and in unison. Such is the political background. The military component is to inflict unacceptable casualties on the Ukrainian Armed Forces, especially in armored vehicles and artillery, and when they are stuck in the battles for populated areas, they should conduct "an operation to enforce peace." But not so much as with the Georgians. I still don’t understand why Medvedev stopped the troops at 40 km from Tbilisi, when all the combat-ready Georgian units were defeated? What did Georgian "elite" after that love Russia? Not. As requested in NATO, and ask. The enemy must be finished in his lair. And after that, to transfer power to sane politicians.

rotmistr60
In DLNR not suicides, therefore this question is either solved, or solved. To be honest, these “minskami” only allowed the Ukrainian side to come to their senses and strengthen the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which made an unforgivable mistake (showing that Russia is a peacemaker, not an aggressor), which will result in a lot of blood.


Mih1974
Let's separate the flies from the cutlets - the Russian leadership in the person of the president said that "we will not allow the people of Donbass to be killed," which means - the devil knows. Maybe this means Russia’s entry into the war on the side of the Donbass at a critical moment, although the territory there is small and you can easily "not have time". Maybe this means deliveries from "free Ossetia and Abkhazia", ​​and under this business anything can be shipped, from the latest modifications tanks, to the "Iskander" (and what, walk like a walk).
Unfortunately, for Verkhov, there is no concern that Victory is forged with blood and often the life of heroes in the trenches. Unfortunately, the Authority always looks at it from above and “considers it as hundreds of thousands.” For those at the top, there is no concern for the tragedies of a particular person, often “quiet and forgotten” - those who die every day under incessant shelling. The authorities think “widely” and agree on the deaths of tens, hundreds, to avoid the deaths of thousands ", but often thousands still die. I personally as a" little man "- I can only sympathize with the tragedy of the residents of Donbass and wish them good luck and good luck.
Personally, I feel very sorry and sorry that it’s not me who makes the decision to help them, accept them into Russia, and I don’t make the decision to launch a rocket attack on Kuevu to the main fascists.


orphan 63
Well, it means it's time for the millionth Liberation Army of the Citizens of Ukraine to restore order in their home. They more than three years in our territory honed their military skills. Let them go to defend their native land, their homes, their grandfathers, women and children.
According to reports from LDNR, it seems that only old people and children live there. But in all the major cities of Russia, everyone from the workers in the underground is already .... to say the least, they are tired.
Or again, they will wait for them, but instead of them without them ?!
We are waiting for meetings of the "brothers" in Moscow, St. Petersburg and then everywhere - Putin, bring troops to our home, and we will sit here in Russia for now ?!
PS Sorry, boiling up. Armament must be provided, and let them fight themselves.


That rottenness did not slip

Communicating with representatives of various segments of the population of our country, we concluded that not all citizens of Russia are eager to express support for the existing government elections. This is normal. The whole question is what methods it is planned to do.





Judging by the reaction of our readers to these materials, the majority would be only for real competition in the elections - with the presence of more or less strong figures as candidates, besides the main figure. However, every time it is customary to ask: what if, while the big pieces fight honestly and openly, a rotten pawn will slip into the queens with the help of the well-known patronage of foreign “friends”. And do not need to fear. You just need to calculate the moves. And it seems that there are grandmasters for this, and it is by no means a variant of Ostap Bender of the New Vasyukinsky period ...

Comments from our readers:

Baloo
I looked at him in the Place of meeting - weak for the president. He has no strategic thinking. Maximum Prime Minister, but better let him remain himself.


Chertt
I consider that all incomprehensible actions with the lack of a receiver in Vl.Vl., And in general, it would seem, the absence of a change of power that is painless for Russia, are perfectly solved. Let's not forget that Vl.V. master of unexpected, unpredictable decisions.


Iaaa
Well, suppose won Grudinin! So what? Will Western politicians make surprised faces? Well done! So what? Will 19 March be canceled sanctions, will the NATO troops withdraw from the borders, will they be sharply friendly with Russia? Yeah, wait, so what. Yes, they and our homegrown liberoids will squeal at once that a commissar came to power in Russia, the worst enemy of the whole civilized world, which means that the pressure on Russia must be strengthened. Something like this. Now, if Ksyushad or Navalnenok, then yes, here they would have begun to sing, that here it is, democracy, won.
And if the West or KhPZ wins the elections for Russia, the West will not change anything. Probably, fortunately.


About surprises from the dragon

Getting acquainted with the vast military-technical expanses of the Chinese Internet (including forums, blog platforms, etc.), as well as watching “YouTube” video content on search queries related to the J-10A / B multipurpose fighter jets, you can not once stumble upon unique acrobatic maneuvers scaled models of these machines.





China is one of the main "holders" of US foreign debt. Therefore, preparing deadly surprises for someone who owes you, well, to put it mildly, is not quite natural. Here is the opposite - more logical. Therefore, the buildup of Chinese military power ceases to be a surprise, but the regularity, yes. After all, China is full of vulnerabilities, which can not be hit with cruise missiles. The option of bearded Chinese citizens returning from the Middle East from all kinds of “Turkestan Free” is an option that the main debtor of China precisely holds in a pocket in reserve.

Comments from our readers:

Chertt
Nothing, nowhere and never good Chinese army showed itself. Until there is even the slightest, practical evidence to the contrary, I will be skeptical of similar, triumphant reports.


Per se.
Do not be lazy to show interest in the PLA, from Chinese volunteers in Korea, to the war with Vietnam and clashes with the same India. As for the incomprehensible tenderness in the article already with the title, - "A deadly surprise for the deck aviation US Navy from the Chinese "Chengdu" The crushing blow of the "Swift Dragon" ", so where are the shores of the USA and where our deserted lands ... China doesn’t need America, it’s not pumping all the power against the USA. It’s all for us, we’ve been friends against the bourgeois West we’re flirting with the “brotherly” German workers' National Socialist Party, now we’re flirting with the Chinese “National Communists.” There was a Western anti-USSR, created from Germany, now the eastern anti-USSR is gaining power, anti-Russia, this is modern “red” China, whom the West has helped rise, and still with it turns a blind eye to both the “communists" and terrible piracy, theft of technology. It is interesting that the current capitalist Russia is being lined up on all sides, with sanctions, persecution, and there is nothing like that against the Chinese "communists." was there a strange policy and a “strange war” when Hitler was given time and opportunity to gain strength for his main mission, the war against the USSR? Unfortunately, how we ourselves helped Hitler by adopting a pact beneficial to Germany, and China’s growing power contributes in many ways position P SMAI. Of course, no one calls for war, but vigilance should not be lost.


Sergey Cojocari
China is preparing for war with new means: do not stupidly drive the hundred millionth army for slaughter, but will send a million rockets, or one hundred thousand airplanes, or ten thousand ships. or all this together. Today he is not ready to do it, but tomorrow ...


Kgovavaya gebnya in numbers

General Bortnikov called the numbers repressed. Those who were interested in a question earlier, these figures know. And for those who are not in the subject, I will quote from an interview: “Even at the end of 1980, the certificate of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs from 1954 on the number of people convicted of counterrevolutionary and other especially dangerous state crimes, including banditry and military espionage, was declassified in 1921-1953 - 4 060 306 people. Of these, 642 980 was sentenced to capital punishment, 765 180 was sentenced to exile and deportation. This is indicated by archival materials. All other figures are debatable. ”





And for “human rights activists” no figures are important. They will give out their own numbers to any numbers - “about tens of millions of Stalin personally shot from a nominal revolver”. At the same time, they will refer to each other, and to historians of the level of bazaar Russophobia, who, of course, were personally present when Beria ate political prisoners at the KGB dinner parties.

Comments from our readers:

Baloo
Wish: to be harder to NGOs, climbing into politics and our internal affairs, and such as navralny and its hopkompaniya with "foreign experts" in his foundation. The case of the "crying boy" from Urengoy should be brought to the end and should be assessed. What is there for the relationship of defendants with our angry jumping neighbors?


210ox
Once again, the security officers with the last holiday! And about the repression ... Well, my grandfather refused to join the collective farm. And? .. shot? Have they sent? Not. Forced to leave. In town. How he did with his passport, I do not know. And no one repressed in the family. Why should we reproach that power? Oh yes! Many famous gnobilas ... Korolev, etc. On economic articles ... What I want the current government. Gnobit is not childish for the economy ...


bistrov.
Totally agree with you. In the village where I was born and lived until 15 years, there were also several such people. One of them, nicknamed "Gorbach", lived through several houses from me and died already in the 1970 year. Nobody touched him, they did not apply any repressions to him, when they began to pay pensions in rural areas, she was assigned to him too.
About passports. It could be obtained on demand and a resident of the countryside. There was, however, a short time, somewhere from 61 to 66, a tacit order to restrict the issuance of passports, but it was formal, and it was easy for everyone who needed to, or could go on the principle, as some did, and the authorities immediately went back down, and the passport was issued. So, for example, my elder brother did, went to the village council, his first day was humbled, but when he began to insist and threatened to write a complaint, all the necessary documents were immediately issued.


About the MLRS and football fields

Tula designers began to develop a new multiple rocket launcher system. According to its capabilities, it should surpass the TORC-S MLRS, which in one volley hits a territory of ten football fields.





Hey hey, comrades Tula gunsmiths! Why do you measure the area of ​​defeat precisely the territories of football fields? After all, tomorrow there will be materials in Western progressive media about how in Russia from Tornado and Breakthroughs they will punch through football fields as a test system. weapons on the eve of the World Cup-2018 ... And FIFA will believe. Well, the IOC Rodchenkov seemed to believe that we have athletes eat dope buckets. So after all, they will write: "Ten fields at a time" ...

Comments from our readers:

NEXUS
It's a good thing, but ... what is the timeline for adoption? The Chinese have already hit RZSO with 200 km ... and Tornado-S has promised that they will very soon hit the very ones with 120 km first, and the last statements were about 200 km.


Svarog
“Breakthrough” - I don’t like the name, we don’t have newsthen the "breakthrough." But a breakthrough of what, pipes, dams ...?


Mestny
In this case, a technological breakthrough is implied.
Specific specialists are working on this.
Fighters for the truth on the note - this work has nothing to do with "crooks and thieves," nor to "hungry pensioners", and to "corruption."

Kent0001
BREAKTHROUGH enemy defense !!!!!, Young man.)))


Ships, ships

The third frigate of the 11356 project "Admiral Makarov", built at the Baltic shipbuilding plant PSZ "Yantar" (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation), transferred to the customer.





If the new ship was commissioned at the end of the year - we say that it was handed over something suspiciously under the year - it was definitely flawed, just to meet the deadline and carry out the percentage of fulfillment of the state defense order on the documents. If the manufacturer declares that the ship for the Russian Navy will not be put into operation by the end of the year - we say: Aaag ... everything is clear with them, some saboteurs gathered around, chasing everyone in the neck, dial others who will work harder. Well, we are ... What can we do ...

Comments from our readers:

79807420129
That waited for the good news. Seven feet under the keel!


RASKAT
The transfer of the ship 25 December stubbornly pushes me to the idea that by any means, but this year you need to hand over the ship, for daws in the reporting documents.
I hope that this is not the case, and the ship was accepted in good order and without serious jambs. Moreover, the ship is not the first in the series, it was possible to fill the hand with the previous ones.
Good luck to the ship, crew of trouble-free hikes and accurate shots.


Topotun
any truly new complex will require refinement. And a new ship with an undefeated air defense system is somehow wrong.


Take on accompaniment

According to several Syrian sources, the militants of the terrorist group “Dzhebhat al-Nusra” (banned in Russia), launched missiles at the Russian military base “Hmeymim”. According to preliminary data, multiple rocket launchers were used during the shelling. The threat was promptly detected by the Russian air defense forces, after which the Pantsir-C1 air defense systems were used. Sources note that the missiles were intercepted in the air near the settlement of Jabel. None of the ammunition reached the goal.

Another Syrian news relates to American reconnaissance aircraft. In an interview with the Izvestia newspaper, Lieutenant-General Alexander Leonov, commander of the Russian Air Defense Forces of the Armed Forces, spoke about the actions of the Russian crews of anti-aircraft missile systems in Syria. According to the general, the C-300B4 air defense system was forced to repeatedly take to escort American reconnaissance aircraft, as well as the bombers of the so-called American coalition. Leonov notes that the American pilots “rather nervously” reacted when their planes turned out to support the C-300 SAMs at a distance of 200-300 km.





The "nervous" reaction of the Americans strangely coincides with the militant rocket attack described above at the Khmeymim airbase, as well as with the attack on the positions of Syrian government forces in the north of Latakia. The positive news is that the offensive of the “Syrian Free Army” is currently stopped.

Comments from our readers:

Lexus
It is remarkable to hear when they then boast that, supposedly, their planes to our air defense are not "in the teeth".


KOH
Apparently, the ejection ...))))


NEXUS
Isn't it a bit early if the GDP ordered the withdrawal of our troops from Syria?


Americans blocked

The Syrian government army blocked the American military base Al-Tanf in the southern part of the SAR. Prior to that, over the course of several months, reconnaissance had been observed from the territory of a military facility by militant groups who had received the necessary training. This was stated by the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov.





Against this background, there are reports from Syria that one of the leaders of the Hayat Tahrir ash Sham terrorist group (banned in Russia) affiliated with Al Qaeda (banned in Russia) was destroyed in the north-west of the Aleppo province. ).

The field commander was abolished near the town of Al-Laramun near Aleppo. The military vehicle in which the terrorist was located was destroyed by an accurate hit.

Comments from our readers:

cedar
It is high time. Let them pack their bags and reel the fishing rods without sudden movements ...


DEDPIHTO
Full blocking still does not work because of the refugee camp: all pro-American human rights activists will raise a howl for the whole world about the bloody Asad, who does not allow humanitarian congregations to starving refugees. And so it would be tempting exceptional to plant a hungry ration, not beating, so skating.


Mikhail m
Americans feel uncomfortable in Syria, but we have absolutely nothing to do with it. We have finished the war. The final sweep will hold the owners of the land. Tricky plan in action.


Headache relieve "Zircon"

Ammunition of the Mk 41 universal launchers of Arleigh Burke class destroyers and Ticonderoga missile cruisers are represented by Evolution Sea Sparrow Missile anti-aircraft missiles RIM-162 of the Block 1 modification equipped with semi-active radar HST. These interceptors require constant illumination from the side of the AN / SPG-62 radar; the latter aboard the Arleigh Burke are only 3, and therefore the number of simultaneously hit targets is 3 units, while the ZUR correction channels are 18 (the number of missiles simultaneously launched to intercept). At the same time, the approach of several dozen EHVs distributed over the echelons to the Aegis ship will “overload” the target channels, and the target will be hit. RIM-174 ERAM (SM-6) ultra-long-range anti-aircraft guided missiles that use the AIM-120C AMRAAM air combat missile with an increased slot area Here, the simultaneous defeat of 18 VC can be implemented, since the SM-6 does not depend on the 3-4 illumination channels of the SPG-62 and use the data received from the main AN-SPY-1A / D (V). Nevertheless, the use of the SM-6 limited arsenal to destroy the attacking PKR, PRLR and other high-precision weapons is extremely expensive and impractical pleasure, which can deprive the combat ship of an anti-aircraft arsenal in a matter of minutes, and therefore American sailors will have to wait another two or three years to gain basic combat readiness enhanced RIM-162 Block II ESSM. This will happen no earlier than 2019 of the year, indicates columnist E. Damantsev.





But the British SAM missiles CAMM, the observer believes, are able to withstand even the most nimble supersonic anti-ship missiles of the 3M55 Onyx, 3M54E Caliber-NK and X-41 Moskit types. As for the range, the standard version of the CAMM rocket (3200 mm long and 166 mm body diameter) can work on targets at a distance of up to 30 km, long-range (CAMM-ER, developed with the support of the Italian division of MBDA) - 45-50 km . These missiles can be used both from standard VPU GWS26 Mod.1 for Sea Wolf missiles, and from UVK Mk 41 using quad farms (4-fold increase in ammunition). With these parameters, the Sea Ceptor air defense systems turn the ships of the British Navy into a rather serious headache for both individual strike submarines - “aircraft carrier killers”, and for the KMG in general for a very long period of time, before the transition fleet to hypersonic anti-ship missiles Zircon.

Comments from our readers:

tchoni
Flocks of many dozens, if not hundreds of anti-ship missiles, attacking the “Arly Berky” - this, apparently, is a matter for the distant future. PKR’s largest ammunition in our surface fleet is at Petrushi, and I’m not sure if it can spit out all 24 rockets. So let the author does not worry about the bourgeoisie.
Better worry about us, because after 2018, the RPC packs can be a real threat to our fleet. That would have conducted an analysis of our capabilities in this area.


Magic archer
Exit two. Or "invisibility" of missiles, or hypersound. After all, the same "Onyx" is a development of the last century. "Caliber" is the same "Ax", only more perfect. There is hope for the "Zircon".


Sergey Cojocari
In fact, there is no way out at all. Any armed conflict between Russia and the NATO countries will develop into a nuclear cataclysm, and after it, as you know, there are no winners.


“No Role” for Russia

Recently, the Serbian President said that if, in the event that the negotiation process between Belgrade and Pristina begins, the latter wants to involve American representatives as mediators, Serbia will in this case request the Russian Federation to mediate.

Now Kosovo has declared that Russia's mediation on this issue "is not an acceptable option." The head of the government of Kosovo’s “state” Ramush Haradinai stated the following: “Russia has no role here, and it is neither necessary nor acceptable to bring someone who is not involved in any way.” According to Haradinaj, the United States and the EU have the right to mediate, while Russia “does not have the right, as Russia once retreated from the situation in the Balkans.”

Responding to a question about the possibility of the United States participating in the negotiation process, Haradinai said: “There is nothing new about the participation of the United States in this process.”





This is surprising, but does Mr. Haradinai want Russia to "come", that is, in any way take up the situation in the Balkans? Of course, not willing. Haradinai is well aware: under the domination of Western-style democracy in the Balkans, conceived and built on the patterns of the United States, he can sit in the "state" chair and look down upon Russia. In Soviet times, such a situation could not even be imagined.

Comments from our readers:

Hagalaz
Hmm, if we continue this logic: "There is nothing new in the participation of the United States in this process ..." So, in order to get the right to participate in something, you need to pobomb someone first! But!


79807420129
Damn, the behavior of a little kid in the sandbox: if you do not give sovochki and a bucket, then I will tell dad.


Herculesic
Kosovo is our wickedness! In 90, we couldn’t prevent the creation of this local Ukraine in even more years! This quasi-country will play its rotten role more than once in the region!


Two hundred million dollars that will keep Russia

"Astronomical" is considered in the West, a program of rearmament of Russia. A decade-long state program scares potential rivals of Russia. Some experts believe that “after Georgia, Ukraine and Syria” Putin will not stop: the Kremlin will move forces to a “new conflict”.

Putin's rearmament seriously worried the United States. Russians will get an answer. To counter the “threat to Russia,” the newsweek reported, the US military will spend over 200 million dollars to upgrade its European air bases. These works will be carried out "as part of broader efforts to contain Russian aggression in the region."

Without waiting for Putin’s rearmament program to take effect, President Donald Trump signed a defense bill. The signature appeared on the December 12 document. As indicated by Haltivanger, the law specifies the amount of 700 billion dollars. Of this money, about 214 million dollars America will direct to the construction of defense facilities in Iceland, Norway and large regions of Eastern Europe, "right on the threshold of Russia."





This is not all. Russians are ready to give a remote response on a large scale in the USA. General Mark Milli stated that the cyber division of the US Army, created three years ago, already has almost 20.000 soldiers. Milli ensures that a wide range of cybertechnologies, including artificial intelligence and robotics, will change the “fundamental nature of war”.

The general did not specify in what way such an impressive number of cyber fighters would respond to the “Russian threat.” US secrecy is probably not inferior to secrecy in Europe.

Comments from our readers:

Chertt
Putin’s opponents said that Russia does not have its own program of action and is only responding to American attacks. Now is the time that the United States is already responding to Russia's proactive actions.


seti
If we start from the article, then that 5 billion $, that 500 billion $, we have invested in 10 years in rearmament, necessarily means one thing. We sleep and see how Europe (all, of course) is under our bast. Personally, I am inclined to believe that such articles serve only one. Regardless of whether we make concessions or fight to the end, we are enemies, and the attitude towards us should be like barbarians / enemies, and the western man in the street should be clearly aware of this. From the diaper in his brain he must be knocked out: Russian is the enemy. And this pressure will increase. No one will give us relief.
Maybe it's time for the leadership of the Russian Federation to act accordingly. To change the rhetoric and publicly say that you are our enemies and we have nothing to talk about. Exit stupid WTO, PACE and other Labuda. Well, we have not grown together there - we will never be there equal. They are "more equal." Want to trade? Please, and more: yes send you. And shimanut our powers that have kids and property there. It's time to choose where the homeland.


Dimontius
I'll tell you a secret: all that is happening now is the answer to the first state program, 2020. I did not immediately like the fact that we presented it very strongly, even before all sorts of Maidans, etc. The straight sixth sense told me - wait for the opposite. Here we are now and get it in full. Won China on the sly, without any announcements is rearming, modernizing. And we would need a quiet ... but late.


Sunset europe

The Chairman of the Munich Security Conference, Wolfgang Ischinger, and the Vice-Speaker of the German Bundestag from the Free Democratic Party, Wolfgang Kubicki, gave a joint interview to the magazine Focus. The topic of discussion was conflicts threatening the world in 2018. The experts' conclusions are full of pessimism ...





Both experts actually signed the political helplessness of present-day Europe both at the local (European) level and at the global level.

The European Union not only does not have an “adequate” policy suitable for confronting modern threats, but there is not even that unity about which analysts wrote with such admiration in the early years of the 21st century. Today, Europe, which has adopted sanctions against Russia on the orders of the United States, is outraged by Trump’s policy, but still takes no steps to improve relations with Russia, instead looking back at the overseas “hegemon”. The Trump administration’s intervention in Europe’s energy security issues is disliked by many EU countries, especially Germany, but this does not prevent Poland from buying gas from the United States.

Difficult, almost intractable is the question of the growing number of refugees in the EU countries, some of which are already pursuing a policy that runs counter to the policy of Brussels.

A number of EU states want a rapprochement with Russia and an end to the new cold war, but other union states want to keep tough sanctions against Moscow.

As a result of endless contradictions, united Europe as a major political player buries itself. A single European Union could provide answers to global challenges, but only together. But this “together”, as the experts truly note, is just not there. Europe continues to collapse from the inside, and the separation of Britain, the problem of refugees and the Spanish-Catalan question is evidence of this.

Comments from our readers:

DMoroz
"... lower the level of increased sanctions."
A cool gem, i.e., we must bow up in front of them, and they will not be so hard to strengthen ...


Sam_gosling
We answer the negative growth of the economy on the attacks of capitalist kites and mongrels supporting them!


andrew42
Re-read 3 times quotes europolitics. It seems that: 1) do not know what they want; 2) do not know what to do; 3) do not know how to give rationality to their own sayings. A tighter unification of Europe? Where is even denser? Is that for better controllability of non-sovereign European dwarfs by the American lever. European army? So Trump also wants that they themselves spend on defense: here they are quite loyally singing under the American tune. The states "rewarded" Europe with such a crisis of the influx of migrants, that there the police forces should be increased tenfold, and not the army should be riveted. But geypepeytsy know better: let migrants rape German women, let the same Brussels soon become a de facto independent Islamic enclave, but Europeans should build up army forces to repel the fake "threat from the East." That European country that does NOT take the lion’s share of sovereignty back from Brussels will be doomed.


Ten dollars a barrel

According to Bloomberg, due to the sharp fall in oil prices, Russia will start having big internal problems in the future. This will happen right by the end of the new presidential term of Vladimir Putin: “Thanks to the mass production of cheap electric cars, the volume of daily oil production will fall. At the same time, the price of raw materials will remain at $ 50 per barrel. In 2020, the price of oil will drop to $ 40 per barrel by the end of the year. In 2021, the price of oil will fall to $ 20 per barrel, which will most strongly affect Riyadh and Moscow, and Russian unrest will begin to riot. In 2024, the economic crisis will begin in Saudi Arabia, the Middle East will be politically unstable, and in Russia, Vladimir Putin will leave the presidency and try to rule through Elvira Nabiullina, who now occupies the post of chairman of the Central Bank. The price of oil in the meantime will fall to $ 10 ... "





Optimist Yury Podolyak answered such a gloomy forecast: “In general, it seems to me that Americans do not understand the main thing. They still believe that Russia can be brought to its knees with the help of oil prices. Meanwhile, life and statistics have already shown that the states themselves are more likely to be bent from low oil prices. ” Russia, the columnist believes, “reliably and at an ever accelerating pace is getting rid of its oil dependence,” and therefore “causing the collapse of its economy by low oil prices is becoming less and less realistic.” But the US economy "is increasingly dependent on the state of the world economy, and hence the price of hydrocarbons." And if suddenly the “Bloomberg” forecast comes true, then Russia will have to be “just bad, and the US will be very bad.”

Amen.

Comments from our readers:

Mountain shooter
Russia, or rather, Rosatom, is also trying. Russia relieves of dependencies - yes, it is an eternal problem. The most important dependence is to count everything in dollars. Here's how we stop, and so on.


Victor N
What to worry about? From the point of view of personal consumption there are no problems: warm, light, full of food. Without caviar and iPhones will not die. There are no reasons for panic AT ALL! Even if the oil runs out completely, there is plenty of firewood, more than in the SA. In Russia, it makes no sense to invest heavily in renewable energy, except in regions where it is very expensive to deliver fuel.
No need to feel sorry for Russia (and yourself), you have to believe in it. And we need to systematically equip to live more comfortably than anywhere else. All personally!


uhu189
The author continues to amaze with his inexhaustible optimism. On the basis of a single graph, a global scale conclusion was drawn on the catastrophic effect of low oil prices on the US economy. My question is: how can low prices for raw materials provoke a collapse of a country's economy with a predominantly manufacturing industry that consumes the same raw materials? The crisis of overproduction will cover, or what? And the failure of 2009 of the year, most likely, is connected with the consequences of the mortgage crisis in the US, rather than with the price of oil. Or I'm wrong?
I would like to remind the author that, despite the low oil prices, the United States did not have any noticeable changes in GDP, there was no sharp decrease in the purchasing power of citizens, as we did, and no one there sequestered the budget. But somehow it turns out that all this was and still cannot recover. “Bloomberg,” of course, thickens the colors, but if we get off the oil needle at such a pace, then we will need 60 in years. And during this time we will lag behind so much that it will not even be funny to talk about a competitive economy. Optimism is, of course, good, but when it is in moderation and is not reduced to absurdity.


Bad guys on the way out!

By the end of January, the Trump administration will present the “Kremlin report” to Congress, which will feature high-ranking Russian officials and dealers close to Putin. America will punish them all. The list of "bad guys" is based on the law "On Counteracting US Opponents through Sanctions" (CAATSA). This law Trump signed in August 2017.





As we can see, Mr. Trump’s tough actions do not at all prove that he is a “valuable shot” and even more so is Putin’s spy who penetrated the Oval Office of the White House with the help of the omnipresent Kremlin, as the American press inspired by the “secret data” from "Secret intelligence".

Mr. Trump is pursuing the usual US anti-Russian policy and continues the Obama case, doing so with much greater scope and passion. His debating about the need to improve relations with the Russians is worthless: politicians should be judged by their deeds, not by words.

True, from Mr. Trump did not work a full-fledged people's president, who would really return her greatness to America. For the year on the throne, Trump managed to quarrel with the European allies, with the Arab world, with Mexico, with China, North Korea, Iran. This is not to mention Russia, with which he finally spoiled the relationship. In addition, Trump unleashed an arms race. As for the homeland, Trump's dubious policy split the American society in half: his supporters and ardent opponents.

Americans need to think carefully and add to the black list of Donald Trump. Under the first number.

Comments from our readers:

Wayfarer
These sanctions, apparently, are timed to the elections. In the USA, they understood long ago: the more they scold the Russian politician, the more the people love him. And now the United States decided before the elections to support GDP and contribute to raising its rating.


Alexey-74
In general, the Congress is preparing a bomb for the Kremlin, and for Putin personally ... The political struggle develops into a battle of special services. Good it certainly will not end. Trump doesn’t solve anything at all, some of the State Department, the CIA, the FBI and the Pentagon are driving there now ... Here’s a puzzle for the GDP and Russia as a whole, and one god knows how it will all end.


Nix1986
A-ha-ha-ha, you see, Americans will work better than the entire anti-corruption committee.


Mikhail Zubkov
Sensible publication, reliable facts, requiring counter-actions. Firstly, all US officials related to the acts, lists and sanctions imposed on the United States against Russians should mirror mirror sanctions on our part. Secondly, all US consular offices in the Russian Federation should be closed, with the exception of the consular section of their embassy in Moscow. Thirdly, at the exit of our citizens in the United States, it is necessary to establish an authorization procedure through the Department of Consular Service of the Russian Foreign Ministry. Fourthly, the permissive procedure should be established FOR ALL TRANSFERS AND TRANSFERS abroad IN AMERICAN DOLLARS, and for receiving remittances in dollars from abroad. Fifth, all the programs of "non-governmental humanitarian exchanges" of the Russian Federation - the United States, the issuance of Russian visas for these programs should be terminated. Sixth, economic sanctions that are sensitive to the United States should be introduced in the form of additional export and import duties such as on titanium, timber, airplanes and cars, etc. Seventh, material and criminal liability should be established for all who cooperate with US authorities and organizations in order to transfer information to them that the US can use to expand sanctions, blacklists, etc. With the reverse effect of punishments for previously committed acts of this kind.


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  1. 210ox
    210ox 31 December 2017 07: 00
    16
    Thank you for the review .. I’ll start from the end. With oil prices .. But in some ways Bloomberg is right .. until we remain dependent on this very “needle” .... But there is not a word about the terrorist attack in St. Petersburg .. .While we’ll not put things in order in the diasporas and will we let in all the scum? But in general ... With the coming you, members of the forum! drinks
    1. jolly deckhand
      jolly deckhand 31 December 2017 07: 21
      16
      All with the upcoming, Health and Love !!!
      1. Alena Frolovna
        Alena Frolovna 31 December 2017 08: 09
        11
        Sunset europe


        In the 1812 year, Napoleon I, shortly before the invasion of Russia, wrote to Alexander I:
        «One must be careful; if things go beyond a certain limit, no one can stop them».

        Europe has crossed this limit. And it seems that «sunset of Europe», once foreshadowed by Oswald Spengler, really comes. The European economy is collapsing - the basis of the foundations of human society.

        With the help of money, democracy destroys itself - after money has destroyed the spirit.
        1. AKC
          AKC 31 December 2017 12: 33
          +8
          Excuse me. why did you decide that the European economy is collapsing? Europe consists of many countries!
          and if the European economy, according to your statements, collapses, then why does the Russian Federation pull gas pipelines there and why does the Russian Federation buy high-tech products and really want to develop cooperation with European companies? Maybe government analysts don’t know what sentence you pronounced for the EU!
          Of course, democracy destroys itself. but many Russians would like to live and work in a destroyed, soulless Europe with a destructible economy. Although you need to clarify which Europe, it is different !!!
          1. badens1111
            badens1111 31 December 2017 12: 44
            +1
            Quote: AKC
            call me. why did you decide that the European economy is collapsing? Europe consists of many countries!
            and if the economy of Europe

            You should at least sometimes look a little further than the tip of your index finger, which you quickly tap on the clave.
            https://news.rambler.ru/economics/38616987-opubli
            kovany-shokiruyuschie-predskazaniya-na-2018-god /
          2. Alber
            Alber 2 January 2018 08: 04
            +1
            Quote: AKC
            Excuse me. why did you decide that the European economy is collapsing? Europe consists of many countries!
            and if the European economy, according to your statements, collapses, then why does the Russian Federation pull gas pipelines there and why does the Russian Federation buy high-tech products and really want to develop cooperation with European companies? Maybe government analysts don’t know what sentence you pronounced for the EU!
            Of course, democracy destroys itself. but many Russians would like to live and work in a destroyed, soulless Europe with a destructible economy. Although you need to clarify which Europe, it is different !!!


            In short! HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!
        2. dSK
          dSK 31 December 2017 16: 41
          +4
          Quote: Alena Frolovna
          destroys itself - after money destroyed the spirit.
          "People die for metal, Satan rules the ball there."
    2. Wayfarer
      Wayfarer 31 December 2017 09: 06
      14
      Why did the authors of the article in the chapter “So that rot does not slip through” cited comments only by supporters of GDP? Or are Grudinin’s supporters unsatisfied with something?

      Here is the first comment: a critical opinion is expressed and is not supported by arguments. How to evaluate this unfounded and empty comment? Just like a slap. Grudinin is an effective industrialist who directs all profits to the development of the enterprise and the increase in the wages of workers. Grudinin preserved the agricultural enterprise when hundreds of others were liquidated and the land was repeatedly resold. Grudinin makes mature, balanced judgments on complex political issues. Obviously, Grudinin is an uncontested candidate in the upcoming presidential elections in the Russian Federation.

      Second comment: the author hints that perhaps Grudinin is the successor to GDP, and not an alternative to it. This is not possible for fundamental reasons. GDP has a liberal, oligarchic, offshore policy that completely suits the West. Grudinin intends to undermine the political course of GDP. Grudinin, as the president of the Russian Federation, is not at all satisfied with the west, the west will do everything so that Grudinin does not become president of the Russian Federation. Therefore, GDP will never voluntarily give up power to Grudinin, in the fight against Grudinin, if Grudinin poses a threat according to the polls, he will use the entire administrative resource.

      The third comment is also devoid of any reasonable grounds. GDP has led the Russian Federation into a geopolitical impasse; Russia cannot develop normally during the Cold War with Ukraine and all technologically developed countries of the world: Europe, the USA and Japan. Such a pit in relations did not exist even under the USSR, when the communists were in power. Therefore, the assertion that with the advent of Grudinin's relations will only worsen is a lie, an attempt to brainwash us. What will happen under Grudinin? Grudinin will have to rake all the firewood that the GDP has broken, this process is difficult, long, but solvable. Under Grudinin, the Russian Federation will establish mutually beneficial relations with all countries of the world, largely due to the restoration of sovereignty, the intensive growth of the economy and military power.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 31 December 2017 10: 04
        +6
        Quote: Traveler
        Or are Grudinin’s supporters unsatisfied with something?

        I do not enter the editorial staff of VO. I express my opinion. Neither supporters nor Grudilin himself are happy with me. In 90, in order to attract the "readership" to their side, all parties recorded in their ranks - famous singers, athletes, heroes, etc. Will we again behave and step on the same rake?
        What a strong business man he is, the only one in all of Russia, see with 4: 50 video.

        I would have understood Zyuganov if he had nominated his comrade-in-arms from his ranks, and so would the Kirdyk of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
        1. Finches
          Finches 31 December 2017 10: 16
          11
          Because, as some people here sometimes write, about projects that Sobchak is a Kremlin project, Navalny is a project, but it turns out that the Communist Party is the same Kremlin project and Grudinin is a Kremlin project! And if all this is a Kremlin project - why do we need to change one project for another ...

          Something I got confused with the Kremlin projects at the end ... laughing Better for the holiday I will be preparing! Happy New Year to all! drinks
          1. Wayfarer
            Wayfarer 31 December 2017 10: 39
            +8
            Quote: Finches
            Grudinin is a Kremlin project!
            This is like an April Fools' joke, so you are a little mistaken, now is the new year.
            Quote: Finches
            all this is a Kremlin project - why should we change one project to another ...
            Are you sure that GDP is a Kremlin project? Somehow, it is hardly believed that in the 90s the ardent patriots gathered: Yeltsin, Berezovsky, Kozyrev and other fathers of Russian patriotism and were overwhelmed with the thought of how to save Russia. Thought, they thought and came up. One in Russia is a good fellow - GDP. “My heart hurts for Mother Russia,” says Berezovsky: “whoever, if not the GDP lifts the country off its knees, saves from destruction, there is no one else. Who will protect us from hordes of adversaries will conquer the rebellious, there is only one such GDP.” Funny right. Seriously, the Kremlin did not put forward the Yeltsin’s successor at all, but Stepashin. But in the end, someone set Yeltsin's successor to GDP.
            Quote: Finches
            Something I got confused with the Kremlin projects at the end ...
            In one thing, you are right, you somehow fail.
            1. Finches
              Finches 31 December 2017 10: 43
              +4
              I like your absolute, unlimited confidence in your own right that you are doing well and right! laughing However, God forbid! Happy New Year! hi
              1. badens1111
                badens1111 31 December 2017 13: 37
                +2
                Quote: Finches
                I like your absolute, limitless self-righteousness.

                Your optimism is depressing if it were somehow optimal or something .. relied on something solid, and not essentially essential spells ..
                Yuri Kot: SBU is preparing the murder of Alexei Navalny
                The SBU is preparing the assassination of Alexei Navalny in order to destabilize the situation in Russia on the eve of the presidential election. Such data is published on his blog by ex-presenter of Kiev Anti-Maidan Yuri Kot.

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                “Another source from the SBU confirmed that the murder of Nemtsov was the work of the mob, who calmly flew to Moscow from Moscow on the same day ... We must not underestimate the level of training of the SBU.

                I’ll say more, the source whispered to me that a new sabotage was being prepared ...

                Lyosha Navalny is the next one who should be loudly removed with accusations against the Kremlin.
                Have you read it?
                Now go down from heaven to earth and think about who benefits from this, in what period of time this will happen and who is interested in it. And most importantly, what kind of reputation losses Russia will suffer.
                Although the best option to avoid provocation is obvious-Lech in Turm, for 25 years, he has spoken and stole with Belykh more than enough.

                In general, with the NEW Year and avoiding all of these provocations to us, no matter who they come from.
          2. Feldscher
            Feldscher 2 January 2018 10: 58
            0
            Grudinin - Abramovich’s project
        2. Wayfarer
          Wayfarer 31 December 2017 11: 04
          +8
          Quote: Boris55
          see from 4:50 a video.
          Thank you for the advice, but decided to look at your false agitation from the very beginning.

          So, "muddy character" - so the host Grudinin christened. The concept of the presumption of innocence is violated. This is how they act in the best traditions of propaganda: we put a label without justification, and let it be washed there. Great, Goebbels applauds the presenter standing.
          “Grudinin is being prepared for the 24g election” is an attempt to brainwash the listener, to show the secondary character of the whole situation with Grudinin’s nomination for the 18th election.
          "From supposedly patriotic forces" - the propagandist did not even bother to accurately state the position of Grudinin, who has repeatedly stated that he is a representative of the left forces. Although essentially the propagandist spoke out precisely, in the sense that Grudinin is supported by all Russian patriots. But his "supposedly" is an ordinary lie, without reason or any doubt.
          “For the next coup” is a serious charge of treason, it is worthless slander, if Grudinin and the Communist Party have time, they will deal with this type in court, possibly after the election.
          Haha, "it’s very alarming, there is a catch, really except Putin there are no worthy candidates." Well, that is, in 140 million countries there is no person worthy of becoming president of the Russian Federation, except for GDP of course. Sharikov supports the propagandist with both paws, that is, with his hands.

          Well, why did you post this base fake? Now is the new year, all things, why should I spend 29 minutes of my life watching the notorious slander?
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 31 December 2017 11: 57
            +1
            Quote: Traveler
            Well, why did you post this base fake?

            Everyone sees what he wants to see.
            "muddy character" - so the host Grudinin christened. - at what minute did the video from Pyakin say such words?
            "Grudinin is being prepared for the election of 24" - what reason do you have to assume that a person who has nominated himself once will not try to do it again? Do you proceed from their experience of the previous election of a candidate from the Communist Party? laughing
            "From supposedly patriotic forces" - You claim that the Communist Party is not a patriotic force? Well, perhaps here I agree with you. laughing
            in the sense that Grudinin is supported by all patriots - you already decide, he is from the patriotic or from the left laughing
            "For the next coup" - at what minute did the video from Pyakin say such words?

            "Everyone, to the best of his understanding, works for himself, and to the extent of misunderstanding, to the one who understands and knows more."
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 31 December 2017 12: 01
              +5
              Quote: Boris55
              Pyakin's mouth

              It sounds like bullshit. On the contrary, listening to a person who in his life is heavier than a pen and pen did not raise anything but imagines himself a dock in matters in which he is incompetent.
              Does the servant of the nouveau riche, Pyakin, want to tell us something on this subject?
              https://cont.ws/@id346471358/810751
              yes with a detailed report, who, how and why all this has allowed.
              It can’t? So let it not heel ...
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 31 December 2017 12: 16
                +1
                Quote: badens1111
                Who in Russia from 2000 of the year bombed 26 of thousands of schools and 5,3 of thousands of hospitals?

                Not that Putin? belay
                All of us, including the president, live according to the laws adopted by the Duma in which the constitutional majority belongs to the party of oligarchs headed by D.A. Medvedev, for whom the vast majority of Russian citizens vote.
                Well, people like that they have it in all the cracks!
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 31 December 2017 12: 32
                  +5
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Not that Putin?

                  Probably Medvedev? He’s already responsible for domestic politics, isn’t he? And you are subordinate to whom? At least once, have the courage to admit that not everything is okay with us in the country, since there are LOTS of questions why our foreign policy is very, very supported by everyone, except for the especially stubborn gozman-sobchak, but here is the inside below the baseboard.
                  Quote: Boris55
                  All of us, including the president, live according to the laws adopted by the Duma in which the constitutional majority belongs to the party of oligarchs headed by D.A. Medvedev, for whom the vast majority of Russian citizens vote.

                  What are you !!! Is it right that Yer and Medvedev are on their own ??
                  And as soon as that very people, or rather its representatives put forward a worthy candidate, you immediately spit on it referring to the Pyakinmyakins and Yer with Medvedev?
                  Maybe the truth is that you should have in your opponents not Grudinin with the NPSR and the Communist Party, but Sobchak with the bulk?
                  You already lied, finally.
                  People are not without eyes and ears, they see, hear what is happening in their cities, towns, villages and villages and their opinion on the mess in domestic politics, which is different from the opinions of asphalt peasants of varying degrees of ignorance of the foundations of production, including your , a purely biased, unfounded and, frankly speaking, near vision of the situation as a whole.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 31 December 2017 13: 44
                    0
                    Quote: badens1111
                    Probably Medvedev?

                    The Medvedev party has a constitutional majority in parliament. If desired, he can adopt any law, up to amending the articles of the constitution and abolishing the form of presidency and social system.
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 31 December 2017 15: 56
                      +3
                      Quote: Boris55
                      If desired, he can adopt any law, up to amending the articles of the constitution and abolishing the form of presidency and social system.

                      Try and arrange another coup d'etat, then do not be offended.
                  2. badens1111
                    badens1111 31 December 2017 22: 52
                    +2
                    your1970 Today, 20: 49 ↑
                    badens1111,
                    https://kprf.ru/party-live/cknews/15700%205.html-
                    there WHY SOMETIME error 404
                    Is it you, about yourself, that you are 404?
                    Study the Program and not that chaff that you invent by passing it off as a Program
                    the minimum program assumes a SHORT-TERM program. Again, it is written there for people like you reading in pieces (and not the whole!)
                    "The minimum program provides for priority measures to implement the strategic goals of the party" - that is, they explain to you that NATIONALIZATION will be complete a little later.
                    "Is that what you yourself invented? Not YOURS1970, do you find that you think it’s not written and what isn’t said?"
                    Who needs your tavern, tartar, pie, and more?
                    Sit upright and don’t tell yourself or anyone else’s dreams about your horrors.
                    Nationalization is subject to those industries on which the functioning of the country depends, so do not worry about the business of paid grades ...
              2. Sirocco
                Sirocco 2 January 2018 05: 30
                0
                Quote: badens1111
                Sounds bullshit.

                It’s possible in more detail, about bullshit, this is not bullshit, I think, but this person’s vision and thoughts, here’s my thought on this subject, Hu from Hu Mr. Grudinin, that I faintly imagine a wolf pack in which one wolf lives in itself, contrary to the laws of the pack, and nothing flies to him for it, from the "relatives" I think you don’t need to explain what we have in Russia right now, the capitalists, ours, local ones, and you want to say, they’re on this Grudininsky Sabbath looking through your fingers? ))))) Isn't it naive? They will immediately destroy the white crow, they’ll say they’ve spread their minds here you understand communism, you are causing confusion.)))) So what Comrade Pyakin is talking about has a right to exist, and nobody knows what happens in the Kremlin’s offices, We can guess at more coffee)))) Or do you kick open the GDP cabinet?
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 2 January 2018 08: 30
                  0
                  Quote: Sirocco
                  More,

                  You can, but for this you need to make an effort on yourself, remove the black glasses, pull out the headphones-zombators from your ears and see the reality.
                  “One of the most successful national enterprises in the CIS is the Tiraspol NGO Elektromash CJSC. This company not only ensured that each employee possesses a certain share of the share capital, but also creates conditions for real control over the use of this property and its disposal, ”is a real example.

                  “Today in Russia there are only a few dozen national enterprises. Among them are CJSC NP Naberezhnye Chelny Cardboard and Paper Mill, CJSC NP Turinsky Pulp and Paper Mill, CJSC NP Sukholozhskasbocement (Sverdlovsk Region), CJSC NP Arkhangelsk Bread, CJSC NP Zavod Iskozh (g. Yoshkar-Ola), NP Confil CJSC (Volgograd), Krasnaya Zvezda NP CJSC (Udmurt Republic), NP Zhukovmezhraigaz CJSC (Kaluga Region), NP Nadezhda CJSC (Sverdlovsk Region), NP NP CJSC Volga Plywood and Furniture Plant ”(Republic of Tatarstan), ZAO NP Chelyabinsk Ore Mining and others. Enterprises belong to such sectors of the economy as pulp and paper, light, food and fuel industries, mechanical engineering, woodworking, construction, agriculture, ”is even more real.

                  “They all work successfully even in the wild Russian market. Over the past 10-12 years, production volumes have increased three to eight times. Labor productivity and wages have also grown significantly. The degree of equipment wear does not exceed 40-50%. At half of the enterprises, 40–70% of equipment is not older than five years. Revenues are not consumed, but purposefully invested. Up to 50% of profit (tens and hundreds of millions of rubles) by decision of labor collectives is annually allocated for updating fixed assets and technological modernization, making up, as a rule, 100% of investments ”
                  Is the meaning clear? Or, as always, I don’t see, I don’t hear and I don’t want to know anything?
            2. Wayfarer
              Wayfarer 31 December 2017 12: 08
              +5
              Quote: Boris55
              Everyone sees what he wants to see.
              Who taught you this? Goebbels?
              I strive to see what is in reality.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 31 December 2017 12: 11
                0
                Quote: Traveler
                I strive to see what is in reality.

                You have not answered my questions.
                Have you decided on what forces Grudilin stands out from - from the left or from the right? laughing
                1. Wayfarer
                  Wayfarer 31 December 2017 12: 27
                  +4
                  Quote: Boris55
                  You have not answered my questions.
                  I already answered your kintz. What about your questions? What is the point of them? Nothing.
                  For example, the first: 0: 26.
                  Second:
                  Quote: Boris55
                  what reason do you have to suppose that a person who has nominated himself once will not try to do it again?
                  The question is empty, it is not relevant in the context of the current situation. The election of 18 is coming soon, Grudinin is nominated as a candidate for the post of president of the Russian Federation and he will win.
                  Third:
                  Quote: Boris55
                  You claim that the Communist Party is not a patriotic force?
                  Rambling nonsense. I have not claimed this and this cannot follow either directly or indirectly from my statements.
                  Fourth: Another nonsense. Grudinin claims that he represents leftist forces that are part of patriotic forces.
                  Fifth: 0:36.
                  Well, what to talk about with you?
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 31 December 2017 12: 44
                    0
                    Quote: Traveler
                    For example, the first: 0: 26.

                    Muddy some kind of persona - This is the listener's question voiced by the announcer, and not Pyaktna’s answer.
                    The question is empty, it is not relevant in the context of the current situation. - with accuracy just like yours.
                    Rambling ravings - re-read your post post again:
                    "ropagandist did not even bother to accurately state the position of Grudinin, who has repeatedly stated that he is a representative of the left forces. Although essentially the propagandist spoke out precisely, in the sense that Grudinin is supported by all patriots of Russia"
                    Are we all patriots left? laughing
                    Fourth - the same as the first - the presenter voices the viewer's question.

                    Everyone hears what he wants to hear.
                2. badens1111
                  badens1111 31 December 2017 12: 35
                  +4
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Have you decided on what forces Grudilin stands out from - from the left or from the right?

                  Is it a secret for you?
                  NPSR and KPRF. Decrypt who and what? Https: //svpressa.ru/politic/article/189217/
                  Right, these are the EP and the Liberal Democratic Party with the SR and other civilian platforms ATP and other trifles. Really did not know?
                  Are you against?
                  The Communist Party and the forces included in the PDS of the NPSR share a lot of ideological, religious and historical differences. But more unites us:

                  - disagreement with the dominance of comprador oligarchic forces in Russia, egregious social inequality and lack of rights of the majority, lack of incentives for conscientious creative work and development and, as a result, steady scientific, technological, industrial and cultural degradation;

                  - our de facto joint action over the course of dozens of years against the surrender of Russia's strategic position to a historical adversary, the inclusion of Russia in the West-controlled system of the world division of labor on unfavorable and humiliating conditions - as a raw material colony;

                  - our common desire, having left all disagreements in the past, but relying on the best of domestic and foreign experience, to find a unifying element for Russia to move forward - to a more effective model of social, state and socio-economic structure that would allow us to re-enter the path of accelerated scientific, technological, industrial and social development.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 31 December 2017 13: 12
                    +1
                    Quote: badens1111
                    Is it a secret for you?

                    They always all say the right words - for everything good, against everything bad.
                    In the parliamentary elections, a representative from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation came to our town often flickering in a television show with gray hair. I asked him that judging by the fact that EP won almost everywhere in local elections, you will not see the majority in parliament and how you will defend the interests of the people. In response - here you vote for us here we are then. He asked, and how do you generally defend the interests of the people, there are examples. There is, says, there was a monetization of benefits - we blocked Leningradka. I ask - and that’s it. No, he says, we still hold rallies in the outskirts of cities ... They organize rallies, blow steam from the people on a whistle ... In general, the Communist Party is not the CPSU (B) there are no Bolsheviks in it defending the interests of the majority. Under no circumstances will I vote for the Communist Party, and their proteges!
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 31 December 2017 13: 28
                      +3
                      Quote: Boris55
                      EP won everywhere

                      Do not tell tales.
                      KBR, NP SARMAKOVO, three villages, the Communist Party won and self-nominated, in the morning, bats-EP is defeated, so there is no need for fairy tales about "honestly fair 2 elections and the winning of EP.
                      So that the fighter for the rights of the capitalists, continue to cultivate the beds of occultism in KOB and you will be happy in the new year.
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 31 December 2017 13: 37
                        0
                        Quote: badens1111
                        Do not tell tales.

                        You missed the word NEARLY and further won everywhere ...
                        Quote: badens1111
                        occult beds of occultism

                        A definition of what occultismgive a can? laughing
                      2. your1970
                        your1970 31 December 2017 15: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: Boris55
                        Quote: Traveler
                        I strive to see what is in reality.

                        You have not answered my questions.
                        -
                        Boris55 - you won’t believe these two eagles - the “Communist” (Traveler and badens1111), who didn’t read the works of the Marxists, or even the Communist Party programs — they didn’t answer my questions either, they didn’t indicate where I lied ..
                        One hysterical hysteria and slogans of the level - "In the Communist Party everything is fair !!", "Everything for the people!" ...
                        even to the question - what will they do if they win (which is possible in principle) so that they will be led by a communist - a billionaire - who, according to the party’s program, will need to be nationalized - only slogans about small business and that Grudinin is a strong business executive.
                        At the same time, to indicate WHERE in the Communist Party program it is written - that small and medium-sized businesses will NOT be nationalized - both failed ...
                        Cracking slogans and sticker labels - that's all they can do ....
                      3. badens1111
                        badens1111 31 December 2017 17: 48
                        +4
                        Quote:
                        your1970

                        Do you lie when you stop?
                        Everything is written here.
                        We are for the nationalization of the oil and gas industries. This measure alone will increase treasury revenues by more than 3 trillion rubles.

                        Nationalization of key banks, electric power, railways, communication systems, defense industry enterprises will create a powerful public sector of the economy. Https://kprf.ru/party-live/cknews/15700
                        5.html
                        And your speculation, not interesting, roughly working in the interests of compradors and oligrahata.

                        Quote: your1970
                        Cracking slogans and sticker labels - that's all they can do ....

                        Exactly, all you can do is crackling chatter, lying and provocative activities in favor of compradors and nouveau riches, if you don’t understand these terms, then I’ll decipher it, you are defending the criminal structure, which has plundered the country from 90 under the guise of the so-called privatization, the criminal in essence is recognized by its conductor, Chubais.
                        I congratulate you on the fact that you have shown yourself to be a servant of Chubais.
                      4. your1970
                        your1970 31 December 2017 20: 49
                        +1
                        badens1111,
                        https://kprf.ru/party-live/cknews/15700%205.html-
                        there WHY SOMETHING Error 404
                        Once again for you stubborn - I took quotes NOT from articles of the Communist Party,not from interview a from KPRF PROGRAMS [/bhttps://kprf.ru/party/program]:
                        "The second stage. The leading role of socialist forms of management will clearly manifest in the economy,
                        which are most effective in ensuring the well-being of the people.
                        The third stage. Its content will be vigorous work on the final formation of socialist social relations, ensuring the sustainable development of the socialist system on its own basis. Social forms of ownership of fixed assets will become dominant. As increasing levels of real socialization of labor and production their decisive role in the economy will gradually be established.
                        The Communist Party of the Russian Federation considers socialism as a society free from exploitation of man by man, public property and distributing the benefits of life according to the quantity, quality and results of labor. "
                        If this is speculation - well, then the Communist Party has a split personality on the site. In one place they write about the nationalization of everything - in another - that they exclusively nationalize the oil industry and the military-industrial complex. Given that all the classics of Marxism wrote about the categorical necessity of nationalizing everything ....

                        You read the program of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation for a start, and at the same time read the Marxist literature ...
                      5. badens1111
                        badens1111 31 December 2017 21: 02
                        +3
                        Some commentators, having written a lie, persist in it. your1970 We didn’t bother to read what the cat was talking about all day.
                        And your lies are refuted by these theses.
                        4. Minimum program
                        ..................
                        to increase the effectiveness of public administration, reduce the number of officials, expand the rights of labor collectives and trade unions;

                        - create conditions for the development of small and medium enterprises;

                        - ensure the accessibility of cultural goods, stop the commercialization of culture, protect Russian culture as the basis of the spiritual unity of multinational Russia, and the national cultures of all the peoples of the country;

                        - to protect society from propaganda of vulgarity and cynicism in the media, to provide access to the state media of all political forces operating within the framework of the law, to stop the denigrating of Russian and Soviet history;

                        - take the most decisive measures to suppress corruption and crime, stop the practice of artificial bankruptcies, block the raider attacks https://kprf.ru/party/program

                        I lie like my own 1970, it’s hard to read in the original source what is said about small and medium-sized businesses, but it’s easy to lie by order, in essence of your state of mind, for a fee or for some other reason *
                        Quote: your1970
                        At the same time, to indicate WHERE in the Communist Party program it is written - that small and medium-sized businesses will NOT be nationalized - both failed ...
                        Cracking slogans and sticker labels - that's all they can do ....

                        Your lies not YOUR1970,bored.
                        Calm down already, soon the New Year, and you go there with an old lie ...
                      6. your1970
                        your1970 31 December 2017 22: 17
                        0
                        Quote: badens1111
                        Some commentators, having written a lie, persevere in it, not your own, 1970, did not bother to read what they say about it all day.
                        And your lies are refuted by these theses.
                        4. Minimum program
                        -a little higher did not try to read, where are the stages of development (maximum program) ????
                        minimum program involves SHORT program. Again there it is written for people like you reading in pieces (and not the whole!)
                        "The minimum program provides priority measures to implement the party’s strategic goals "- that is, they explain to you that NATIONALIZATION will be complete slightly later.

                        ZY otrodody was not a supporter of the capitalists / Chubais / liberals / USA / and all others - but God forbid such as badens1111 they will break through to power - not even able to understand what is written in the party program / textbooks of Marxism - I don’t even stutter about political economy .......
        3. badens1111
          badens1111 31 December 2017 12: 12
          +4
          Quote: Boris55
          I do not enter the editorial staff of VO

          Do not need.
          Pyakin is your guru?
          Well, here you are about your dubious guru and his fuss
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCisxo-Ux00
          And this is about your dubious quality of talker.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9c9vY6wYQ8
          few?
          Well, to those you still
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BZNd8ELoww
          In general, a retired goat drummer ..
          In 1990, he participated in the creation of the Liberal Democratic Party of the Soviet Union, later the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR). He represented the Concept of Public Security in the LDPR. In 1997, he took part in the creation of the People’s Movement “Towards God-Power” (NKKB) and the territorial organizations of the NKKB in the Altai Territory and the Altai Republic. Member of the Central Council, Chairman of the Altai Regional Branch of the NKKB.
          In 2000, participated in the creation of the Conceptual Party “Unity”. Member of the Presidium of the Central Council, Chairman of the Altai Regional Branch (until 2002).
          Since 2001, he has been additionally the editor-in-chief of the conceptual-analytical newspaper “Mura for Measure” and the editor-in-chief of the KPI website.
          Since 2004, he has been working at the Conceptual Technology Fund (St. Petersburg) - manages the work of the FCT representative office in the Altai Territory.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 31 December 2017 12: 25
            0
            Quote: badens1111
            Pyakin is your guru?

            I am close to his position on most issues. In many ways, his thoughts are similar to mine. I respect him. I am also a supporter of BER. Nothing stands still, everything flows and everything changes. With the receipt of new information, comes rethinking.
            About his participation in various movements - all of them were not registered as parties by the Justice Ministry and this fact speaks volumes. A beer lover party is easy, but KPI still is not! Afraid of the power of an alternative concept.
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 31 December 2017 12: 45
              +3
              Quote: Boris55
              I am close to his position on most issues. In many ways, his thoughts are similar to mine. I respect him. I am also a supporter of BER.

              BER (Public Safety Concepts) - a set of conspiracy theories, pseudoscientific ideas, religious beliefs and unconfirmed facts united by the idea of ​​a worldwide Jewish conspiracy.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 31 December 2017 12: 54
                0
                Quote: badens1111
                united by the idea of ​​a worldwide Jewish conspiracy.

                Not at all like that. Jews are using. They are one of the tools that survived the Atlantist flood to build a global slave-owning civilization of the antediluvian civilization.
                You heard something about BER or are familiar with it very superficially and you have incorrect ideas about it. KPI, Unity is an attempt by individuals on the basis of BER to create a party, but this is not BER.
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 31 December 2017 13: 18
                  +3
                  Quote: Boris55
                  COB

                  A pseudo-patriotic organization created and used against the interests of Russia, including through influence on people like you. Http://lurkmore.to/%D0%9A%D0%9E%D0%91
                  And this is so ...
                  Without inventing anything new, KPI (KOB) during the life of Petrov decided to use the old proven SS method, just wrapping it in a domestic candy wrapper.

                  To this end, they made contact with established, already existing neo-Nazi organizations (the so-called Rodnoverie), such as the one represented by A. Vedagor. Trekhlebov, in respect of whom in 2013 the Krasnodar Regional Prosecutor's Office opened a criminal case under part 1 of Art. 282 of the Criminal Code, i.e. for extremism.

                  Shortly before his death, K.P. Petrov even performed at the festival of Perun as the “magician of Merogor”, where he passed the ceremony of “christening” and name-giving ...
                  A sensible and thoughtful reader already certainly wondered how KPI, KOB thinks to carry out the tasks of opposing the "Masonic" conspiracy, while taking from them their own occult terminology, methods of working with the consciousness of the masses, and most importantly, perceiving their own occult worldview the platform ?!

                  Agree strangely, we are offered to fight the world "Masonic" backstage and build a society based on ... its own ideology !?

                  Cause? “They say the devil has two hands. He holds out both to the person and says: choose any. Https: //cont.ws/@kisslove/193174
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 31 December 2017 13: 30
                    0
                    Quote: badens1111
                    A pseudo-patriotic organization created and used against the interests of Russia

                    BER is the result of the work of one of the Leningrad institutes to fulfill the task of the Central Committee of the CPSU to counter Western ideology. The task was completed, but by that time Gorbachev, who did not need them, had already headed the party. Therefore, the team of authors, so that work would not be in vain, decided to publish their materials and make them available to everyone.
                    Quote: badens1111
                    Without inventing anything new, KPE (KOB) during the life of Petrov

                    KPI and BER are not the same thing. Petrov, having familiarized himself with BER, released a two-volume book of what he understood from BER. This is his purely personal opinion.
                    The book KOB "Dead Water", about six months later, was included in the list of extremist literature. The decision was challenged and now it is available to everyone.

                    Quote: badens1111
                    Agree strangely, we are offered to fight the world "Masonic" backstage

                    Not at all like that. The consequences can be fought to infinity.
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 31 December 2017 21: 27
                      +3
                      Quote: Boris55
                      The consequences can be fought to infinity.

                      You, sir, are struggling with windmills. I’ll tell you an honest lesson.
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59moaqOC9JU
          2. Wayfarer
            Wayfarer 31 December 2017 17: 22
            +3
            Quote: your1970
            I, too, did not answer my questions, did not indicate where I lied ..
            I poked you into your incompetence, deceit and slander many times, is it all enough for you? Was your pride hurt? Still want to? You can’t connect a couple of words.
            Quote: your1970
            "Communist" (Traveler
            I am not a member of the Communist Party. You, judging by your muddy reasoning, are an inveterate liberal ready for anything for the liver.
            Quote: your1970
            One golem hysteria and slogans
            This is your dear, hate to hate, except labels and dirt can not offer anything.
            Quote: your1970
            WHERE in the Communist Party program says - that small and medium-sized businesses will NOT be nationalized - both failed ...
            Is everything normal with your head? I do not have to tell you where it is written, indicating the source and page. It is enough that I heard this from the lips of Grudinin and Zyuganov. Got it? Or do I need to repeat this?
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        1. badens1111
          badens1111 31 December 2017 12: 36
          +3
          Quote: AKC
          any of his undertakings will be blocked by parliament! Voila!

          Lying.
          The powers of the State Duma may be prematurely terminated due to its dissolution.
          According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the State Duma may be dissolved by the President of the Russian Federation in cases and in the manner provided for by the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
          The Constitution of the Russian Federation in Art. 111, 117 contains three grounds for the dissolution of the State Duma:
          1) The State Duma is dissolved after a three-fold rejection of the candidatures of the Chairman of the Government of the RF submitted to it by the President of the Russian Federation;
          2) The State Duma may be dissolved by the President of the Russian Federation if the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation poses before the State Duma a question of confidence in the Government of the Russian Federation, and she refuses to trust the Government of the Russian Federation;
          3) The State Duma may be dissolved by the President of the Russian Federation if it re-expresses no confidence in the Government of the Russian Federation within three months.
          In the event of the dissolution of the State Duma, the President of the Russian Federation sets the date for new elections so that the newly elected State Duma convenes no later than four months after the dissolution of the previous one.
          The State Duma cannot be dissolved in the following cases:
          1) in connection with her expression of no confidence in the Government of the Russian Federation within a year after her election;
          2) from the moment she brings charges against the President of the Russian Federation until the adoption of the relevant decision by the Federation Council;
          3) during the period of martial law or state of emergency throughout the Russian Federation;
          4) within six months before the end of the term of office of the President of the Russian Federation.
          LEARN THE LAW.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 31 December 2017 12: 56
            0
            Quote: badens1111
            The powers of the State Duma may be prematurely terminated due to its dissolution.

            Here we only lacked chaos! Can you imagine what will start? Can you imagine what will happen if the 24 republics in Russia begin to specify the borders? Russia simply will not be!
            You are not broadcasting from the State Department?
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 31 December 2017 13: 20
              +2
              Quote: Boris55
              You are not broadcasting from the State Department?

              Rather, it is you, through BER broadcasting something directly unnatural to the necessary changes in the country.
              Quote: Boris55
              Can you imagine what will start? Can you imagine what will happen if 24 republics in Russia begin to specify the borders?

              But you don’t panic. This is your Yeltsin screaming, take sovereignty how much you swallow, there will be no repetition.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 31 December 2017 13: 33
                0
                Quote: badens1111
                This is your Yeltsin screaming, take sovereignty how much swallow, there will be no repetition.

                Look at Ukraine, those.
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 31 December 2017 15: 58
                  +4
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Look at Ukraine, those.

                  WELL THERE AND WATCH THERE WHERE THE MANAGEMENT BOARD OF COMPRADIATIVE CAPITALISM LEADS TO, Mr. PROTECTOR OF NOVORISHI.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 31 December 2017 18: 10
                    0
                    The Communist Party, like other parties in modern Russia today, is characterized by slurredness of its sociological platform and political doctrine. Its sociological science does not have any fundamental differences from the West: the Communist Party of the Russian Federation does not have an adequate life for the psychology of the individual and society, its philosophy shies from dialectical materialism to Orthodox and other traditions of understanding the peoples of Russia, its economists are brought up in the traditions of West-West economic science. This is true for populist Grudinin - it is a product of the same economic and sociological West-West science. And therefore, hope that through it Russia in the 2018 or in the 2024 year (and the sight was at that time) will go on the path of socialist development - it amuse oneself with illusions.
                    In the newspaper Zavtra, No. 50 (211), 1997, an interview was published with the former chief editor of Kommunist magazine R. Kosolapov, in which he reports the following:
                    “From the end of the 50's to the beginning of the 70's, I had to work closely with Dmitry Ivanovich Chesnokov, a former member of the Presidium of the Central Committee, who" referred "to Gorky in the 1953. Moreover, Khrushchev could not name him for any clear reason: there is an opinion - that’s all. It was Chesnokov who Stalin, a day or two before his death, said on the phone: “In the near future you should deal with the issues of further development of the theory. We can confuse something in the household. But one way or another, we will rectify the situation. If we mess up in theory, we will ruin the whole thing. Without theory, we need death, death, death! .. "
                    Since JV Stalin set this task, no CPSUBeing a party of state power in the USSR, nor the Communist Party, “Permanently” proclaiming its opposition to the post-Soviet regime in Russia, did nothing in the development of sociologythat would allow the party to inspire the people to come to power and translate into practice the ideals of free labor and life without parasitism.

                    http://inance.ru/2017/12/put-putina/
                    As I don’t emphasize the quote, I really don’t like the oblique font.
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 31 December 2017 21: 32
                      +4
                      Quote: Boris55
                      really don't like inclined

                      Empty blah blah blah, as you don’t isolate, the meaning is not added.
                      You confused the dummies of EP, SR and LDPR with a party having an Idea? In this case, you signed a complete inadequacy in accepting a reality in which there are two ideas that conflict with each other, a party of compradors and champions of peripheral colonial capitalism-EP and its spoilers and party social changes, the Communist Party, in favor of the vast majority of the population, and not a handful of selected people and their servants. Your KOB, this is a fake, golem, veil morgan, to distract attention from the situation.
                      China has both a party and successes, what do you offer us?
                      Emptiness in the form of Pyakins and chatter of Fedorov, with emptiness of the promises of EP? Thanks, no need. Enough .https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = 59moaqOC9JU
                      What is this?
                      Source: http://www.forbes.ru/rating/342579-200-bogateyshi
                      h-biznesmenov-rossii-2017 # all_rating
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 1 January 2018 09: 26
                        0
                        Quote: badens1111
                        Empty blah blah blah, as you don’t isolate, the meaning is not added.

                        Are you talking about the statement of Comrade Stalin: "Without theory, we will die, death, death! .."?
                        Quote: badens1111
                        Have you confused the dummies of EP, SR and LDPR with a party having an Idea?

                        Having? comrade Stalin directly pointed:
                        “Moreover, I think that it is necessary to discard some other concepts taken from Marx's Capital, ... artificially glued to our socialist relations. I mean, by the way, such concepts as "necessary" and "surplus" labor, "necessary" and "surplus" product, "necessary" and "surplus" time. (...)
                        I think that our economists must put an end to this discrepancy between the old concepts and the new state of affairs in our socialist country, replacing the old concepts with new ones corresponding to the new situation. "We could tolerate this discrepancy until a certain time, but now the time has come when we must finally eliminate this discrepancy."
                        Towards the end of the 80's Leningrad Institute on the instructions of the Central Committee of the CPSU finally developed a new sociologist, popularly known as BER, so you shy away from her like incense — so what kind of communists are you in? You are Trotskyists disguising themselves as obsolete slogans of Marxism, that's why you lose your seats in the Duma, that's why you unite with other parties. Your strength is rapidly melting, your end is near! Think it over!
                        Quote: badens1111
                        China has both party and success

                        KNP - did not betray its people like the CPSU us in 90's. When the Communists-Trotskyists came to power in 53, the KNP sharply opposed them.
                        Quote: badens1111
                        what do you offer us?

                        KOB offers a theory that the Central Committee of the CPSU requested, which you don’t have, and without which all of us die.
                      2. badens1111
                        badens1111 1 January 2018 09: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: Boris55
                        Are you talking about the statement of Comrade Stalin: "Without theory, we will die, death, death! .."?

                        In order to convincingly convince yourself of the nonsense that KOB flogs, did you decide to attract the authority of Stalin? In full, Stalin would have made such "theorists" to logging.
                        Are you trying to talk about the development of the Idea and at the same time you are denying the same Communist Party? And why would the geese go for a walk? Well, yes, it develops ideological positions in accordance with the requirements of the present and in accordance with the challenges of reality, but you wander into everything in occultism and spiritualism.
                        comrade Stalin directly pointed:
                        “Moreover, I think that it is necessary to discard some other concepts taken from Marx's Capital, ... artificially glued to our socialist relations. I mean, by the way, such concepts as "necessary" and "surplus" labor, "necessary" and "surplus" product, "necessary" and "surplus" time. (...)
                        I think that our economists must put an end to this discrepancy between the old concepts and the new state of affairs in our socialist country, replacing the old concepts with new ones corresponding to the new situation. "We could tolerate this discrepancy until a certain time, but now the time has come when we must finally eliminate this discrepancy."
                        Are you trying to cite I. Stalin again as a counterargument and as a support for your twists, forgetting that he said this about the existing, at that time, socialist system, and now what do we have? And now we have peripheral semi-colonial capitalism, so why the hell are you Try to pull the owl onto the globe? The system will change, and then we'll talk, but for now you are pouring everything from empty to empty.

                        Quote: Boris55
                        KOB offers a theory that the Central Committee of the CPSU requested, which you don’t have, and without which all of us die.

                        Once again, in Russian-KOB, there is false teaching, occultism and fortune-telling on coffee grounds, and for this reason there are NO supporters of this nonsense, or rather, so few that besides INET, you don’t see any kind of appearance anywhere else, well, your pyakin is bustling about on YouTube. , essentially useless snag for people.
          2. SOF
            SOF 31 December 2017 12: 57
            +5
            MEN !!!
            You got your politics on December 31st.
            Patience until January 2nd ...
            Happy New Year!!!
            drinks
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 31 December 2017 13: 21
              +7
              Quote: SOF
              You got your politics on December 31st.

              So they get the same cobs, mobs of other occult gossip and rumors ..
              And yes, with the Holiday and all the best in the NEW YEAR! laughing
              drinks drinks
          3. AKC
            AKC 31 December 2017 12: 57
            0
            This you need to not only copy-paste, but also read. read carefully what I wrote: any of his undertakings will be blocked by parliament! I did not write about dissolution and impeachment !!! For example, the sternum passed a law on the importation of Turkish strawberries. and parliament will block him. or sternin decides that his son would receive even more money from the lease of land. Parliament will block it here. McFaul, for example, decides that the breastplate of the Gazprom would be sold to the Americans by the sternine, then they will block it! But parliament will pass a law on raising pensions by 10 times (you probably dream about it?) And if you don’t sign it, it will be extreme because there is no such money. and sign will be extreme too! Voila, so let the sternum grow strawberries using Gaster, cheating the peasant doesn’t get into the state department !!!
            Well, let's say that you are a connoisseur of the law, and the sternum dissolves the thought, what is further? The collapse of the country in the best traditions of the Communists, as in 17 the creation of new republics !!!
            Grudinin is Abramovich, only a smaller scale !!!! Of course, I understand that naive people dreaming of a free apartment vote for commies. but in order to be so naive as to believe a rogue ...? I AM SHOCKED !!!
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 31 December 2017 13: 23
              +2
              Quote: AKC
              This you need to not only copy-paste, but also read. read carefully what I wrote: any of his undertakings will be blocked by parliament! I did not write about dissolution and impeachment !!! For example, the sternum passed a law on the importation of Turkish strawberries. and parliament will block him. or sternin decides that his son would receive even more money from the lease of land. Parliament will block it here. McFaul, for example, decides that the breastplate of the Gazprom would be sold to the Americans by the sternine, then they will block it! But parliament will pass a law on raising pensions by 10 times (you probably dream about it?) And if you don’t sign it, it will be extreme because there is no such money. and sign will be extreme too! Voila, so let the sternum grow strawberries using Gaster, cheating the peasant doesn’t get into the state department !!!
              Well, let's say that you are a connoisseur of the law, and the sternum dissolves the thought, what is further? The collapse of the country in the best traditions of the Communists, as in 17 the creation of new republics !!!
              Grudinin is Abramovich, only a smaller scale !!!! Of course, I understand that naive people dreaming of a free apartment vote for commies. but in order to be so naive as to believe a rogue ...? I AM SHOCKED !!!

              Nonsense full insisted on gossip, rumors. Direct lies.

              Quote: AKC
              read carefully what I wrote: any initiative will block the parliament!

              It means that the comprador forces in parliament are worthless, and since there is no need for those who serve compradors and nouveau riche, it disappears that you are so worried about EP, LDPR and SR who don’t think about you at all ???
              1. AKC
                AKC 31 December 2017 13: 49
                +1
                I’m worried not for these parties but for my life, everything suits me, I don’t need to think about Bo, I need to not be disturbed! Putin’s rule suits me (like most Russians). Of course I would like better and more.
                I don’t need the experiments of the aligarchs who, trading in Turkish strawberries in the metropolis, talk about their super professionalism, naive people dreaming of a free life !!! You do not think. that the current situation in the country suits people? What doesn’t suit you? Who is stopping you working. make money, start a business, help people? You this EP, LDPR, CP banned? or are you waiting for someone to come and take care of you?
                and what is the lie? in that the order-bearer and the advanced cap of labor, the sterner, uses Gaster, or receives money for rent, land, and his children are attached to warm places. and he himself is a very baggy latvundist who by deception took the land from the peasants?
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 31 December 2017 16: 02
                  +3
                  Quote: AKC
                  I do not need experiments of aligarchs who are trading in Turkish strawberries

                  Are you talking about TAPE, AUCHAN and read the western trading networks? Or vice versa in their defense, Mr. liar?
                  Quote: AKC
                  very baggy latvundist

                  Baby, are you in Russian school, what grade did you have? Two?
                  Well then, it’s clear that in the situation you are good at two, sit down, two.
                  1. AKC
                    AKC 31 December 2017 16: 54
                    0
                    No, it's me about your idol sternum !! which pushed Turkish strawberries under the guise of Moscow! son, why does not stubborn sell strawberries through the shops you named, but did he once trade? Do you know why? I will answer: because they require that they provide information about the place of origin of the goods, but the sternum has problems with this! And what do you dislike about western retail chains? After all, they at least somehow control their goods, which is witnessed by Pasha Grudinin!
                    Do you really believe in such a naive belief that the kububnik grown in the Moscow climate will be competitive with the Turkish, Krasnodar and other warm regions? And can you build a kindergarten for the income from it?
                    about the son of Grudinin, his fraud with the land, his income from renting land, merged !! switched to literacy! My literacy is enough to earn, and not whine, hoping that a good uncle will come and feed!
                    Do you really believe that the oligarch, a latifundist who earns on real estate, an ex-member of United Russia, Grudinin will save Russia from corruption, “Putin’s compradors” and bring them to the USSR 2.0 (c)
                    There are people who sincerely believed that the oligarch, the owner of a multidisciplinary holding company, an ex-member of the Party of Regions, Poroshenko will save Ukraine from corruption, the “golden loaf of Yanukovych” and bring them to the European Union. (with)
                    And here is what McFaul said about your idol: “Of course, Pavel Grudinin cannot win. But the fact that the Communist Party chose him as a party presidential candidate is a small step forward in the rotation of Russian elites. Good.”
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 31 December 2017 17: 54
                      +2
                      Quote: AKC
                      And here is what McFaul said

                      What your makfol say, and why biden makfol fuss in your favor, I understand.
                      Why are you on the side of the Biden McFaul, it’s not clear, are you ready to sell the Homeland for a bun?
                      Why are you, a “fighter” with the oligarchs, keeping quiet about people like Potanin and Rotenberg, Kerimov and Vekselberg?
                      Or is there a team pouring dirt on one, keeping quiet about true oligarchs?
                      Quote: AKC
                      that oligarch is a latifundist earning on real estate

                      You learn the Laws, and then tell tales here. Will you eat a cucumber from a bed near a highway in six rows, a connoisseur of a farm?
                      Quote: AKC
                      about the son of Grudinin, his fraud with the land, his income from renting land, merged !! switched to literacy! My literacy is enough to earn

                      Is the Internet a clacker? I have no doubt.
                      With regards to your speculation, you do not have a single definition of the court, in that Grudinin violated something.
        2. badens1111
          badens1111 31 December 2017 18: 11
          +2
          Quote: AKC
          should disappoint you:

          You will have to disappoint yourself. And why so, it is written here. Clever will understand.
          http://zavtra.ru/blogs/pochemu_putinu_neobhodim_g
          rudinin
          Well, if you didn’t understand, then alas ... it speaks of your inability to calculate at least something different from example 2 + 2.. You probably have 3 or 5 ..
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 31 December 2017 16: 26
        0
        "GDP has led the Russian Federation into a geopolitical impasse; Russia cannot develop normally during the Cold War with Ukraine and all technologically developed countries of the world: Europe, the USA and Japan." This is in which phantasmagoric book you pulled this nonsense? Both the USA and Europe, and especially Japan, supply all high-tech products to Russia despite the sanctions, and the sanctions themselves are only for the good of our economy, with Ukraine there is less than one cargo, its way to the EEC, let it go further there.
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 31 December 2017 15: 43
      0
      The terrorist is detained. It turned out to be a Russian nationalist. There are many varieties of shit - you should not copy dill and in every case look for an Islamic trace, as they are Russian. The investigation should not be blinded and operate on facts. hi
    4. Kent0001
      Kent0001 2 January 2018 14: 49
      +1
      Probably someone needs it.
  2. svp67
    svp67 31 December 2017 07: 00
    17
    This week the main result is NEW YEAR. ALL WITH A HOLIDAY !!! Happiness and good luck in the New Year !!!
    1. HEATHER
      HEATHER 31 December 2017 07: 05
      +6
      Eh. Do not forget. Soon March 8 .....
      1. 210ox
        210ox 31 December 2017 07: 08
        10
        So before that February 23 ..... hi
        Quote: VERESK
        Eh. Do not forget. Soon March 8 .....
        1. HEATHER
          HEATHER 31 December 2017 07: 17
          +6
          hi I also have February 25, IAS Day and my wife’s birthday! drinks
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 31 December 2017 11: 05
            +7
            Quote: VERESK
            I also have February 25, IAS Day and my wife’s birthday!


            Yokarny Babai !!! Guys, we are still seeing off the Old and have not celebrated the New !!! And with your requests - and THIS will not be enough !!!!


            Happy Holidays !!!
            Ministry of Health warns - be careful! Do not drink more buckets of vodka per day !!! laughing hi
        2. svp67
          svp67 31 December 2017 09: 28
          0
          Quote: 210ox
          So before that February 23 .....

          He will definitely NOT forget about this ... And forget it - REMEMBER.
          1. HEATHER
            HEATHER 1 January 2018 06: 50
            0
            That's what he will definitely forget - REMEMBER. Of course I won’t forget. Today from night to weekend! By the way, there’s something about retirement for the military that has gone through. Are there any details?
        3. Boris55
          Boris55 31 December 2017 09: 54
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          So before that 23 February ....

          February 23 is the new style, and March 8 is the old style. This is one and the same holiday only in different chronology. In general, for the men, with the upcoming! drinks
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 31 December 2017 07: 14
      +5
      Well, very cool "results"!
      All a Happy! drinks
      1. dSK
        dSK 31 December 2017 17: 09
        +2
        Hello Oleg!
        Quote: siberalt
        All a Happy!


        New Year is marching around the planet, in seven hours we will have it. drinks
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 31 December 2017 07: 23
    10
    Thank you for the review! From the good news, I can add that a monument to Stalin was opened yesterday in our Rostov Region! soldier For residents of the region, who is on the site, they put him in Matveyevo-Kurgan, who lives nearby, call in and see! The main thing for us, I repeat that there is no big war in which Russia will inevitably be dragged!
    1. Alena Frolovna
      Alena Frolovna 31 December 2017 08: 18
      +6
      in the Rostov region yesterday opened a monument to Stalin!


      The hour will come and the filth will cease
      And all the people's love
      Will cleanse your image from dirt
      And Stalin will stand in stone again!

      Frosty winter - and the glare of sunrise
      Surged on silver granite
      Forever under the radiant sky
      Your view of Russia is again open.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 31 December 2017 11: 25
      +5
      Quote: Herkulesich
      in the Rostov region yesterday opened a monument to Stalin!

      Thanks for the great news! That's really a "Christmas tree present!"
    3. Freeman
      Freeman 31 December 2017 23: 42
      +2
      Herculesych Today, 07:23

      Video for those who live far
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 December 2017 07: 25
    +4
    All the happiness and good luck in the new year. And it's nice to celebrate. Take a walk, relax, and with renewed vigor ... In short, Happy New Year, forum users!
  5. German Titov
    German Titov 31 December 2017 09: 02
    +6
    I respect this "site" very much. All "members of the forum" with the upcoming New Year! Stay alive!
  6. orphan 63
    orphan 63 31 December 2017 10: 45
    +3
    laughing Around the projects of the Kremlin, the hands of the Kremlin and the Kremlin Russian hackers - that's how we live, among Zhdunov and Nezhdanchikov from around the corner!
    Only recently, everyone was worried about uncontested elections, and now we do not have time to count the candidates.
    Kremlin casing, however tongue

    Happy New Year everyone!

    PS And this is for a good mood

  7. weksha50
    weksha50 31 December 2017 10: 59
    +7
    It’s time to congratulate our Far Easterners on the New Year ...
    The New Year is already creeping up to Chukotka, Kamchatka, Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands and, further, to the North and Far East ... And then, slowly, it will roll through the vast expanses of our country ... To Kaliningrad, St. Petersburg, Kandalaksha, Murmansk, Arkhangelsk ... You will not name everyone ... Thanks to DAM, I got completely lost in time zones ... Either half, or a quarter of a day the New Year will be moving across Russia !!!
    I’m looking now - in Blagoveshchensk 17.42.55 (6 hours), Vladivostok and Nakhodka, Ussuriysk, Khabarovsk, Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk 18.42.55 (7 hours) ...
    It's time, guys, to lubricate the skis and the esophagus, throw all negatives overboard, and, as always, hope for the best, for the good ...

    Good people even on the river well “inherited” on the eve of the New Year ...

    What has always distinguished the Russian people (without focusing on nationalities) is that they always, in the most difficult times, not only hoped for better times, but tried to build them themselves ... Not always, the people, got the best hands-on leaders ... Well ... Russia has such a burden - fools, roads and ... kings ...
    Let's not talk about the bad ... Leave it in the old year ...
    I wish all members of the forum good health, vitality and optimism, respect and love on the part of friends and relatives, and - MOST IMPORTANT - of the world !!! WORLD of the outer ... WORLD - of the inner ... The inner world - not only with itself, but - and society with power ...
    Women-members of the forum, warrior-Amazons and housewives - congratulations separately ... In addition to the general wishes - BE ALWAYS LOVED !!!

    All the best !!! Sincerely, Veksha George ...
    1. orphan 63
      orphan 63 31 December 2017 11: 47
      +4
      Quote: weksha50
      Women-members of the forum, warrior-Amazons and housewives - congratulations separately ... In addition to the general wishes - BE ALWAYS LOVED !!!


      For a separate congratulation to you, a special THANKS. love If Men Stop set fire to huts and less likely to be scare horses repeat , then women will live a little easier laughing
  8. Egoza
    Egoza 31 December 2017 11: 31
    +7
    authors, co-authors and the entire VO team - Happy New Year! drinks On my own I want to add to the results of an interesting survey from the "Version" - what will be watched in Ukraine on New Year's Eve:
    Speech by Putin (1158) 60%
    The Irony of Fate (475) 25%
    Wizards (132) 7%
    Speech Poroshenko (115) 6%
    Cyborgs (46) 2%
    Total votes: 1926

    So the friendship with Russia is yet to come! hi
    1. Poll_0
      Poll_0 31 December 2017 13: 13
      +2
      for all the reigns of Pidr Patroshenko, I have never watched his speech, I don’t want to spoil the New Year’s mood for myself and my relatives!
      Happy New Year!!!
  9. Terenin
    Terenin 31 December 2017 11: 39
    10

    Happy all! Good luck, good luck and good luck again! With uv.
  10. Poll_0
    Poll_0 31 December 2017 13: 10
    +1
    Happy New Year everyone!!!!
    1. dSK
      dSK 1 January 2018 10: 47
      +2
      Since January 1, 2018, the sale of alcoholic energy drinks has been officially banned in Russia. Their production is permitted solely for export purposes. This is stated in the recently adopted amendments to the law "On state regulation of the production and turnover of ethyl alcohol and alcoholic beverages."
  11. Overlock
    Overlock 31 December 2017 13: 28
    +3
    that's what the choices do! I want a presidential election every 6 months! Hooray, comrades!
    Salaries of public sector employees from January next year will be indexed by 23%, said Finance Minister Anton Siluanov on the television channel Russia 24.

    The official noted that this measure is planned in pursuance of the "May" decrees of the head of state from 2012.
  12. astankard
    astankard 31 December 2017 14: 19
    +1
    Happy! Congratulations to the United States and Great Britain - Happy New Year !!! Devils survived.)))
  13. Severe
    Severe 31 December 2017 14: 57
    +2
    ALL FORUMAN HAPPY NEW YEAR! I wish you to read more good and positive articles here next year! Special thanks to the authors all year who gave us topics for discussion!
  14. Shahno
    Shahno 31 December 2017 16: 06
    +1
    And the world is multipolar. China, Russia, Israel, the States.
  15. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 31 December 2017 16: 14
    +4
    Congratulations to all on the upcoming 2018! All the best to you and your loved ones!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 December 2017 16: 35
      +1
      And to you the same health, happiness and new technical, and not only, achievements in 2018.
  16. family tree
    family tree 31 December 2017 18: 16
    +5
    Happy New Year, friends! I wish you all good yes , A LOT OF fellow drinks
  17. Freeman
    Freeman 31 December 2017 22: 24
    +3
    That rottenness did not slip
    Judging by the reaction of our readers to these materials
    Baloo
    I looked at him at the meeting place - rather weak for the president.
    Chertt
    I consider that all incomprehensible actions with the lack of a receiver in Vl.Vl., And in general, it would seem, the absence of a change of power that is painless for Russia, are perfectly solved. Let's not forget that Vl.V. master of unexpected, unpredictable decisions.
    Iaaa
    Well, suppose Grudinin won! So what?

    Well, if you accept the assertion that Moscow is the Third Rome ...
    That news (and comments) might sound like that
    Speaking of Caesar Augustus.
    The elections of the highest magistrates of Rome are coming, including the Princeps. The election result seems to be predictable, but the general situation around them promises to be funny - just remember the matron Ippoxenius looking at Caesar’s curling chair.

    And the other day another contender appeared, a certain Grudiniy, a wealthy latifundist and a seller of berries.

    - I sell strawberries grown with my own hands! - proclaimed Grudinius at the Forum of Rome, causing a considerable bewilderment of citizens: it is necessary, a gardener, and there he marks in Caesar! Forum witters instantly identified him as “a candidate with a mustache and a strawberry flavor”but who knows, what if we observe some sophisticated intrigue and the fateful word “successor” can be applied to the owner of the antennae and aroma? ... In the end, did the horse Ursus visit the position of Roman consul?

    On the whole, the outgoing year did not bring us, citizens, unnecessary hardships and tribulations - yes, alas, the Divine Augustus is more passionate about external than internal politics, and this is regrettable, but nevertheless, Rome was spared from internal turmoil. Paying attention to the figurine of Navalny, this miserable kidnapper of firewood from the construction of the provincial lupanaria, does not respect yourself. His tongue-tied speeches are gathering less and less listeners, and an attempt to become like Ippoxenia and try on Caesar's crown ended in a predictable failure - do not steal firewood, Navalny!

    https://legatus-pretor.livejournal.com/58892.html

    laughing
  18. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 January 2018 06: 15
    +4
    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! soldier
  19. German Titov
    German Titov 1 January 2018 11: 25
    +1
    Happy New Year! New Year's address of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, my family and I listened while standing! Putin for the Donbass is the guarantor of the world. Let's make a changer. (W / NA) Will Vladimir Vladimirovich and Sergey Kuzhegetovich arrive for the weekend, and Ukraine will give the alcoholic for free use? Trupchinov has a long line. Moseychuk ordered the "evil Chechens" - to "purely neigh".
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 2 January 2018 07: 42
      0
      German Titov Yesterday, 11:25 PM

      Happy New Year! Peace and joy to your family!

      ... and those alcoholics and other criminals in ukrobandera - they didn’t have to puff for long ...
  20. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 1 January 2018 23: 28
    +1
    The topic is the results of the year, the economy:
  21. Tusk
    Tusk 2 January 2018 11: 48
    0
    Well, guys, the holiday continues ..!)))
    Here is a joke on the topic:
    Why is Russia invincible ..?
    But because there are many time zones, while some are sleeping, others are on duty ..! soldier
  22. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 2 January 2018 19: 20
    +2
    The news about the expected period of pension payment remained completely unnoticed. Previously, it was 240 months, now 246. Translating into plain language, earlier the amount of pension savings at retirement was divided by 240 and now by 246, i.e. in fact, they reduced the payment of pension on the funded part.