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Why Kiev will buy gas from the "aggressor country"? Poroshenko explained

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Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko is having a hard time after the actual award by the Stockholm arbitration of the need to return Kiev to buy gas from Russia directly. Recall that earlier, the Ukrainian authorities, buying the same Russian gas, but from the Slovaks, Poles and Hungarians, and at a significantly inflated price, declared “a complete rejection of gas purchases from the aggressor country.” Moreover, ordinary Ukrainians perfectly understood whose gas they used, but official Kiev did not let up, every time trying to declare that “there is no Russian gas in Ukraine.”


After the decision of the Stockholm arbitration, Ukraine has to return to direct gas purchases from Gazprom, and Poroshenko, in turn, has to pick up words of explanation - how is it that energy sources are “being acquired from the aggressor again?”

And Poroshenko is trying to find the right rhetoric. From his statement today:
They knock: can you take our gas? No, we are fine. If he is cheap, if he is honest and non-corrupt, please. And what is it for us? To lower tariffs for our people.


Why Kiev will buy gas from the "aggressor country"? Poroshenko explained


Poroshenko responded to this statement in the State Duma of the Russian Federation. Pavel Zavalny, chairman of the energy committee of the lower house of the Russian parliament, notes that the gas that Kiev is currently buying re-exports costs Ukrainians an average of 20 dollars per thousand cubic meters more expensive. With this statement, the deputy hints that it was the Ukrainian authorities who invested the corruption component in the purchase of gas, in fact deceiving their citizens.
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  1. Pirogov
    Pirogov 28 December 2017 18: 52
    14
    honest and non-corrupt ........................................... it's exactly about parasitism ........ but I forgot to re-boot. Madhouse, in short.
    1. Shura Perm
      Shura Perm 28 December 2017 18: 54
      +5
      Azzazza, he's a clown)
      1. Alekseits
        Alekseits 28 December 2017 18: 58
        +3
        And the most sloppy. lol
        1. volodya
          volodya 28 December 2017 19: 05
          +7
          Quote: Alekseits
          And the most sloppy. lol

          Petya, he sang his song!
      2. 210ox
        210ox 28 December 2017 19: 23
        +2
        This clown sighed freely. The arbitration did not fully support Gazprom’s lawsuit. For it would have been sadness. And now again, you can not pay and take cheap. But the “aggressor” is only interested in someone who is interested in it ..
        Quote: Shura Perm
        Azzazza, he's a clown)
        1. katana
          katana 28 December 2017 19: 41
          +5
          Quote: 210ox
          This clown sighed freely. The arbitration did not fully support Gazprom’s lawsuit. For it would have been sadness. And now again, you can not pay and take cheap. But the “aggressor” is only interested in someone who is interested in it ..
          Quote: Shura Perm
          Azzazza, he's a clown)

          I did not understand the joy of the members of the forum regarding the court’s decision - after all, by that decision, your Gazprom was “bent” and kicked her in the ass. And the forum members were joking and joking here. . I have only one hope - that the Russian leadership will remember that Russian national laws are dominant over international and will not recognize and will not comply with this court decision, remembering that Russia kind of got off its knees since 2014 according to its leadership !!
          1. NKT
            NKT 28 December 2017 19: 50
            +8
            They bent not only Gazprom, having made a political decision, but also wiped their feet on the Law and the Treaty.
            1. katana
              katana 28 December 2017 19: 57
              +2
              Quote: NKT
              They bent not only Gazprom, having made a political decision, but also wiped their feet on the Law and the Treaty.

              That's it - finally I see an honest comment!
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 28 December 2017 20: 05
                15
                Quote: katana
                That's it - finally I see an honest comment!

                go to the censor. you will learn a lot of things and there will be no desire to approach
                1. katana
                  katana 28 December 2017 20: 15
                  +2
                  Quote: LSA57
                  Quote: katana
                  That's it - finally I see an honest comment!

                  go to the censor. you will learn a lot of things and there will be no desire to approach

                  I can go to the censor - in Armenia there are no blockages of individual sites on the Internet, you advise your compatriots Russians how to get around the block and go to the censor. wassat laughing tongue
                  1. Thrall
                    Thrall 28 December 2017 20: 21
                    11
                    Santa brought new training manuals?
                    Go to the censor, don’t go to VO - you’ll get to the peacemaker like you were.
                  2. LSA57
                    LSA57 28 December 2017 20: 25
                    +5
                    Quote: katana
                    you advise your compatriots Russians - how to get around the blockage and go to the censor.

                    advise petunia. he covers everything from Russia. and in a stink, I went a couple of times. no more desire No.
                    1. katana
                      katana 28 December 2017 20: 45
                      +2
                      Quote: LSA57
                      Quote: katana
                      you advise your compatriots Russians - how to get around the blockage and go to the censor.

                      advise petunia. he covers everything from Russia. and in a stink, I went a couple of times. no more desire No.

                      I learned from the members of the VO forum about the existence of such a site as Censor.net, for the sake of interest I went there several times and was disappointed - there is no dialogue between
                      1. LSA57
                        LSA57 28 December 2017 21: 22
                        +4
                        Quote: katana
                        Quote: LSA57
                        Quote: katana
                        you advise your compatriots Russians - how to get around the blockage and go to the censor.

                        advise petunia. he covers everything from Russia. and in a stink, I went a couple of times. no more desire No.

                        I learned from the members of the VO forum about the existence of such a site as Censor.net, for the sake of interest I went there several times and was disappointed - there is no dialogue between

                        belay i plague belay what dialogue ???
                        we all and all water obscenities?
                        there is not one post there is no dialogue. continuous Russophobia. and what arguments they bring ...
                2. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 29 December 2017 09: 13
                  +2
                  Quote: LSA57
                  Quote: katana
                  That's it - finally I see an honest comment!

                  go to the censor. you will learn a lot of things and there will be no desire to approach

                  I can offer an excuse for publication on the "censor":
                  "Gas is produced by migrant workers working in Russia, which means that it is Ukrainian gas!"
                  1. LSA57
                    LSA57 29 December 2017 11: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: Piramidon
                    Quote: LSA57
                    Quote: katana
                    That's it - finally I see an honest comment!

                    go to the censor. you will learn a lot of things and there will be no desire to approach

                    I can offer an excuse for publication on the "censor":
                    "Gas is produced by migrant workers working in Russia, which means that it is Ukrainian gas!"

                    when crossing the border, fart gas is left on the sly
              2. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 28 December 2017 21: 57
                +8
                Quote: katana
                That's it - finally I see an honest comment!
                Not honest, but one whose wording suits you. What bent Gazprom? It’s clearly written -
                Following the decision of the Stockholm arbitration Ukraine has to return to direct gas purchases from Gazprom
                . About a year and a half ago, Urkaina put up for sale a lot in the form of a meter-long piece of pipe welded on both sides, in which they claimed was the last cube of gas "achressor" bought by Urkaina. In the process, in order not to shred the entire Urkaina gas transportation system in such symbolic pieces, the Stockholm court ordered Durkain to buy gas in order to preserve transit after 2019, which Europe wants to convince Russia of because the instantaneous loss of $ 2 billion received by Kuev for transit cannot be offset by anything. Moreover, by decision of the Stockholm court, Urkain is obliged to pay Russia more than $ 2 billion for contracted gas, even if she does not physically take it.
          2. Mestny
            Mestny 28 December 2017 19: 52
            +1
            Phew! Phew! A place!
          3. LSA57
            LSA57 28 December 2017 20: 04
            +4
            Quote: katana
            - after all, by this decision, simply speaking, your Gazprom "bent", gave her a kick in the ass.

            belay belay how???? in what? belay belay
            1. katana
              katana 28 December 2017 20: 19
              +3
              Quote: LSA57
              Quote: katana
              - after all, by this decision, simply speaking, your Gazprom "bent", gave her a kick in the ass.

              belay belay how???? in what? belay belay

              And so - a good delicious kick with a graceful judicial boot on the sagging Gazprom ass !! bully tongue
              1. Thrall
                Thrall 28 December 2017 20: 23
                12
                Do you have any kind of warm memories connected with your ass that you remember about it so often?
                1. katana
                  katana 28 December 2017 21: 01
                  +2
                  Quote: Thrall
                  Do you have any kind of warm memories connected with your ass that you remember about it so often?

                  I wrote about a kick on the Gazprom ass in a figurative sense, it’s inconvenient to write about a kick on textiles. smile If I offended your patriotic feelings with something, then excuse me. I have business, I must leave you.
              2. LSA57
                LSA57 28 December 2017 20: 27
                10
                Quote: katana
                nice savory kick with a judge's graceful boot

                I ask again, what kind of kick ???? where did we lose the trial ???
                1. NKT
                  NKT 28 December 2017 21: 13
                  +3
                  1. The contractual volume and the volume of mandatory gas withdrawal (take or pay) have been reduced by a factor of 10
                  2. Linking gas prices to oil prices
                  3. Price reduction
                  4. The lifting of the ban on gas re-export

                  But most importantly, the agreement, which is signed voluntarily by both parties, is now worth nothing.

                  It would be interesting to scroll with Shell or Statoil and see their reaction

                  Naftogaz filed a counterclaim including a fine for violations of gas pumping volumes, but there is no clause in the agreement on this violation. Let's see what they say in February
                  1. LSA57
                    LSA57 28 December 2017 21: 44
                    +4
                    Quote: NKT
                    Naftogaz filed a counterclaim including a fine for violations of gas pumping volumes, but there is no clause in the agreement on this violation. Let's see what they say in February

                    oh, learn the materiel laughing urkainu put in place laughing they will pay laughing
                    well, you don’t look at parashkina news in the morning laughing
                    1. NKT
                      NKT 28 December 2017 21: 53
                      +6
                      Are you in the looking glass or something? Who put whom?
                      Gazprom filed a lawsuit for $ 47 billion, and was forced to pay 2 and 3.0 more (as Gazprom says) + canceled and changed the above paragraphs of the agreement.

                      Is that a victory?
                      1. LSA57
                        LSA57 28 December 2017 22: 01
                        +3
                        Quote: NKT
                        Gazprom filed a lawsuit for $ 47 billion, and was forced to pay 2 and 3.0 more (as Gazprom says) + canceled and changed the above paragraphs of the agreement.

                        turn on the alarm. this is the second one already. continuation follows. read how they covered kaklov. Google to the rescue laughing
                      2. LSA57
                        LSA57 28 December 2017 22: 16
                        +2
                        Quote: NKT
                        Are you in the looking glass or something? Who put whom?

                        trouble when they holyly believe that
                        what a potential liar tells them. YOU SHOULD ALL

              3. Piramidon
                Piramidon 29 December 2017 11: 36
                0
                Quote: katana
                Quote: LSA57
                Quote: katana
                - after all, by this decision, simply speaking, your Gazprom "bent", gave her a kick in the ass.

                belay belay how???? in what? belay belay

                And so - a good delicious kick with a graceful judicial boot on the sagging Gazprom ass !! bully tongue

                And you didn’t answer the question. In addition to the "ass" there is nothing in the head.
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 2 January 2018 06: 41
                  +1
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  And to the question you

                  poke a dog in a doghole !!!!!! the question is answered in the article. kakly will pay. continued trial follows.
          4. kapitan92
            kapitan92 28 December 2017 21: 03
            11
            Quote: katana
            I did not understand the joy of members of the forum regarding the court’s decision - after all, this decision, simply put, “bent” your Gazprom, gave it a kick in the ass

            And how did they bend Gazprom? Gazprom filed two lawsuits for 46 billion and 6 billion. bucks, for the shortage of gas on the outskirts, according to the contract clause "take or pay". In Europe, there was already a precedent with an Italian gas company about 10 years ago, and the same court sided with gas buyers, but awarded Italians 5% of the amount claimed. Gazprom lawyers knew this very well. The company received in court 2 billion dollars (the same 5%) and have already accumulated interest on 180 million dollars. Since they bent it ??? Not only that, the Stockholm court ordered Gazprom to reduce the amount of gas supplied to the outskirts by 20%, and purchase the outskirts according to the existing contract, but the “take or pay” principle did not cancel.
            Then now the bucket is spinning like a bindweed!

            Quote: katana
            I have only one hope - that the Russian leadership will remember that Russian national laws are dominant over international and does not recognize and will not comply with this court decision, remembering,

            Gazprom will certainly comply with the court decision, by the way this is a dispute between business entities Naftogaz and Gazprom, and the Russian leadership has nothing to do with it! hi
          5. serega61
            serega61 28 December 2017 21: 35
            +4
            I think that 56 billion, it was just a banter from Gazprom, they know perfectly well that all of Ukraine does not cost that much, and, in principle, they haven’t lost anything.
          6. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 28 December 2017 21: 37
            +6
            Quote: katana
            Quote: 210ox
            This clown sighed freely. The arbitration did not fully support Gazprom’s lawsuit. For it would have been sadness. And now again, you can not pay and take cheap. But the “aggressor” is only interested in someone who is interested in it ..
            Quote: Shura Perm
            Azzazza, he's a clown)

            I did not understand the joy of the members of the forum regarding the court’s decision - after all, by that decision, your Gazprom was “bent” and kicked her in the ass. And the forum members were joking and joking here. . I have only one hope - that the Russian leadership will remember that Russian national laws are dominant over international and will not recognize and will not comply with this court decision, remembering that Russia kind of got off its knees since 2014 according to its leadership !!

            finally, all this arbitration began due to the fact that Svidamye did not want to pay for the delivered gas in 2014 ... so you would not particularly rant here !!! wink yes tongue tongue tongue laughing laughing laughing
          7. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 29 December 2017 00: 07
            +6
            Quote: katana
            I did not understand the joy of members of the forum regarding the court’s decision - after all, this decision, simply put, “bent” your Gazprom, gave it a kick in the ass

            You, a pan with an Armenian flag, should not express a pro-Bandera version of the court ruling here in VO.
            Exhaust from snot ....
          8. BecmepH
            BecmepH 29 December 2017 05: 59
            +1
            Quote: katana
            hope - that the Russian leadership will remember that Russian national laws are dominant
            gone. Our leadership no longer has national pride.
            They need money for watches, pens ...
      3. papas-57
        papas-57 28 December 2017 22: 48
        +3
        And the look is so honest honest. He believes in what he says.
      4. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 29 December 2017 00: 05
        +3
        ... They knock: can you take our gas? No, we are fine ...

        An unfortunate country, or what is left of it ... "The President" aloud voices the delirium "delirium tremens".
        lol
    2. System
      System 28 December 2017 18: 57
      +5
      Waltzman, in a word .. Weather vane, where is the benefit or how to blow it ..!
      And Russia, as always a generous soul! We are humiliated and stomped by our souls. and we pay taxes (as Krasnodar wrote) to Israel go ..
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 28 December 2017 19: 39
        +3
        Quote: Sistema
        and we pay taxes

        But nothing that Valtsman pays taxes to us ??? Do you think that’s why oxygen wasn’t blocked for him? so he pays taxes to Russia, not urkaine. and the tax is not small. per year, he pays for the monthly maintenance of the motorized rifle division. like this. and who humiliates whom?
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 28 December 2017 20: 09
        +7
        Quote: Sistema
        And Russia, as always a generous soul!

        that's it. the strong are always generous and kind
        We are humiliated and stomped by our souls

        speak for YOURSELF. None of them humiliated me or spat at all. and here I spat them all in Syria
        go to Israel ..

        Well, several have already returned and the air is spoiled laughing
        1. 97110
          97110 28 December 2017 21: 56
          +4
          Quote: LSA57
          none of them humiliated me

          And you have both the Russian flag and the Russian language. They have a french flag, language
          Quote: Sistema
          и stomp our souls
          you see for yourself - it’s like Russian, but “a mixture of French ...” The whole conversation was started to stick out the fine organization of their vulnerable souls. And try to kick us - if possible.
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 29 December 2017 05: 54
            +1
            Quote: 97110
            And try to kick us - if possible.

            Yes it is necessary to chop off these kicks. everywhere angry
        2. BecmepH
          BecmepH 29 December 2017 06: 02
          0
          Quote: LSA57
          and here I spat them all in Syria

          Have you been to Syria?
          So the whole world knows that the Amerikos won in Syria.
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 29 December 2017 11: 21
            +1
            Quote: BecmepH
            So the whole world knows that the Amerikos won in Syria.

            you can’t put a scarf on each mouth. who needs to know who they have rested.
            here is a row. GDP takes the Parade.
            and literally a few days later, sanctions and screeching for victory are incomprehensible to the cargo. think
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 29 December 2017 11: 35
              0
              Quote: LSA57
              think

              He thought ... And thought: "Politicians, bureaucrats, the media know who won. They know who and where took the parade. But the average person does not know the whole truth. People in the west know that the clique, led by America, has won. And WE are in their eyes aggressors, scum and sucks. And this is their people who choose their leaders, not knowing the whole truth. "
    3. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 28 December 2017 19: 09
      +6
      Quote: Pirogov
      honest and non-corrupt ........................................... it's exactly about parasitism ........ but I forgot yet peremozhets

      so he lives according to the Bible - “deceive his neighbor, for the distant will come and deceive both” laughing
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 28 December 2017 19: 35
        +1
        Quote: Angel_and_Demon
        so he lives according to the Bible - “deceive his neighbor, for the distant will come and deceive both”

        Nope. by the law of the chicken coop. "Face the neighbor, cover the lower, for the distant will come and reach you" laughing
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 28 December 2017 19: 49
          +6
          Well, I quote the Bible, and you?
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 28 December 2017 20: 10
            +1
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            Well, I quote the Bible, and you?

            folk wisdom
    4. Maz
      Maz 28 December 2017 19: 11
      +1
      Quote: Pirogov
      honest and non-corrupt ........................................... it's exactly about parasitism ........ but I forgot to re-boot. Madhouse, in short.

      It’s not so easy to steal. Schemes are not so transparent.
    5. DMB_95
      DMB_95 28 December 2017 19: 26
      +2
      Quote: Pirogov
      honest and non-corrupt ........................................... it's exactly about parasitism ........ but forgot to remeber.

      Also our benefactor, damn it. laughing Graciously agreed (finally, Hurray!) To buy our gas. I don’t know where to hang his portrait now. laughing
  2. jolly deckhand
    jolly deckhand 28 December 2017 18: 53
    +4
    Zmerz, Petro? laughing laughing laughing
    1. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 28 December 2017 19: 13
      +7
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Zmerz, Petro?

      so he is not the one who is not jumping - that maskal
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      3. LSA57
        LSA57 28 December 2017 19: 46
        +3
        contagious laughing
    2. 210ox
      210ox 28 December 2017 19: 26
      +4
      Why is he frozen? Compare gas prices here and in ruin ... Rather, some kind of grandmother will freeze near Moscow .. And they will not be allowed to freeze ..
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Zmerz, Petro? laughing laughing laughing
    3. katana
      katana 28 December 2017 19: 45
      +2
      Quote: jolly deckhand
      Zmerz, Petro? laughing laughing laughing

      This winter is warm in Armenia and I’m not replenishing Gazprom’s pocket, and I’m glad about this fact. Somehow you’re struggling without the money of an Armenian.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 28 December 2017 19: 50
        +7
        Quote: katana
        and I’m not replenishing Gazprom’s pocket

        Fill your pocket with steam laughing at the same time and bask laughing
        do you live one day? Winters are not always warm.
        the ears are already back include
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 28 December 2017 20: 25
          +5
          Quote: katana
          Quote: jolly deckhand
          Zmerz, Petro? laughing laughing laughing

          This winter is warm in Armenia and I’m not replenishing Gazprom’s pocket, and I’m glad about this fact. Somehow you’re struggling without the money of an Armenian.

          Kakelu is also warm in imaginary Armenia
      2. 210ox
        210ox 28 December 2017 20: 24
        +5
        Gazprom will certainly be killed without all of Armenia .. Yes and VO will be killed without Ramzik ​​.. Yes, and without his money ..
        Quote: katana
        Quote: jolly deckhand
        Zmerz, Petro? laughing laughing laughing

        This winter is warm in Armenia and I’m not replenishing Gazprom’s pocket, and I’m glad about this fact. Somehow you’re struggling without the money of an Armenian.
      3. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 28 December 2017 21: 27
        +5
        Quote: katana
        You will interrupt somehow without the money of an Armenian.

        Yes, there was no need to worry, we had it. yes You need it to raise your own country. Although you seem to wish it the opposite. You inform that everything in Armenia is rotting, but you don’t do anything to change the situation for the better. Ah, yes, I forgot - you have an iron sincerity: it's all the evil, bad Serzhik is to blame ... and the Karabakh, so-their-time. laughing
      4. BecmepH
        BecmepH 29 December 2017 06: 08
        +1
        Quote: katana
        You will interrupt somehow without the money of an Armenian.

        These are all words ... Or do you think that we will die with grief ?. It will be colder, and all your pride and bravado will shrink ... from the cold. Do you cook on an electric stove? Or firewood?
  3. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 28 December 2017 18: 53
    11
    Yeah ... no longer surprised by the speeches of this ushlepok ...
    But especially this touched:
    No, we are fine.

    I’m thinking, but what is not very good then? Or what is bad?
    1. Alekseits
      Alekseits 28 December 2017 18: 59
      +2
      So he speaks to himself and his environment, and not about the people.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 28 December 2017 21: 27
      +3
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      Or what is bad?

  4. NEXUS
    NEXUS 28 December 2017 18: 59
    +7
    They knock: maybe take our gas? No, we are fine. If it is cheap, if it is honest and non-corrupt - please. And why is this for us? To lower rates for our people.

    Right on our knees we stand and beg. wassat Return the debts first, amphibian, and then talk about gas ... maybe.
    1. Safer
      Safer 28 December 2017 19: 05
      +2
      Does he have options? Europe will not sell the reverse if the debts are not returned to us. There is certainly a win-win option - buying gas in the United States. But after all, as a court ruling, they were given out for too much.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 28 December 2017 19: 52
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      Return the debts first, amphibian, and then talk about gas ... maybe.

      it later. "You warm us, for small denyuzhki, and then we will not bark at you" Phew !!!
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 28 December 2017 22: 22
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      Right on our knees we stand and beg.

      yeah we don’t know where to go laughing
      probably on two fronts. wait, we’ll gain strength. Syria will feed your seeming that they will curse you
  5. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 28 December 2017 19: 03
    +4
    Non-corruption gas! However!!! This is nonsense. One would like to tighten the anthem of Ukraine to the nenki - More ne vmerla Ukraine ... What country, such an anthem ...
    When did you die Katya already? I would like to ask. Do not torture yourself, do not torture people in the end already.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 28 December 2017 21: 32
      +3
      Quote: Benzorez
      Non-corruption gas! However!!! This is nonsense.

      But why? you sit down for a push, you go without corruption
  6. loginovich
    loginovich 28 December 2017 19: 04
    0
    After the decision of the Stockholm arbitration, Ukraine has to return to direct gas purchases from Gazprom, and Poroshenko, in turn, has to pick up words of explanation - how is it that energy sources are “being acquired from the aggressor again?”[i] [/ i]

    Who will explain? We have continuous changes. Yesterday, Valtsman personally carried each prisoner in his arms through the checkpoints. That's what Valtsman will talk about, not a single journalist will ask him about gas.
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 28 December 2017 19: 16
      +2
      On everyone’s hands ?! How many of them were blown? Forgive my ignorance.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 28 December 2017 19: 54
        +2
        Quote: Benzorez
        How many of them were blown? Forgive my ignorance.

        ball one. Sabakashvili. made a copy and propagated on the printer laughing
  7. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 28 December 2017 19: 13
    0
    Somehow a chocolate eye
    received from Russia - gas.
    Waltzman Petya
    justify, otherwise ...

    Hehe lol
  8. Egorovich
    Egorovich 28 December 2017 19: 16
    +1
    Wag, do not wag Rooster Porosenko, and you will still buy gas from Russia, only with an advance payment. And there the fines are already going and not small (for not paying Gazprom). The end to you, stupid, is still close.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 28 December 2017 19: 19
      +3
      Quote: Egorovich
      Wag, do not wag Rooster Porosenko, and you will still buy gas from Russia

      I don’t care about this toad ... it's warm and its whole brood of toads is also dry and comfortable ...
  9. izya top
    izya top 28 December 2017 19: 18
    +1
    horses have their own reality fool at ukroforum they are waiting for gas to be sold specifically for nenki, they’ll take into account, they say, Stockholm decided so belay what they blow into their ears ... request
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 28 December 2017 19: 26
      +1
      Izya! hi Greetings! drinks They need to supply swamp gas, lol Ito on an advance payment, and at prices three times higher than world prices! sad
      1. izya top
        izya top 28 December 2017 19: 34
        +1
        hi
        Quote: Herkulesich
        They need to supply swamp gas,

        this good they have uuuuu .... fellow
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 28 December 2017 19: 56
          +2
          Quote: izya top
          this good they have uuuuu ....

          Well, it’s possible and easier smile
      2. Kerensky
        Kerensky 28 December 2017 20: 35
        0
        at prices three times higher than world prices!

        I’m embarrassed to ask, what about swamp gas on the world market now?
        1. NKT
          NKT 28 December 2017 21: 45
          +1
          2.93 $ / MMbtu (Henry hub) without delivery
  10. pvv113
    pvv113 28 December 2017 19: 21
    +2
    They knock: can you take our gas?

    This is his white horses knocking hooves
  11. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 28 December 2017 19: 22
    +1
    How do you have to wag your backside when the arctic fox creeps up.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 28 December 2017 19: 57
      +3
      Quote: Alexander 3
      How do you have to wag your backside when the arctic fox creeps up.

  12. Herculesic
    Herculesic 28 December 2017 19: 23
    +1
    At choice, we will supply ukroine either laughing gas through a gas pipeline, or an aggressive one, so that everything burns! wassat From the "country of the aggressor" you will not wait for another! wassat
  13. Nikolay Fedorov
    Nikolay Fedorov 28 December 2017 19: 30
    +4
    ... With this statement, the deputy hints that ...

    Official Kiev officially shouts, calls itself an aggressor, swears from high tribunes, promising its victorious military parade either in Sevastopol or in Red Square, and our tolerant deputies all subtly hint and hint, probably afraid to offend subtle vulnerable souls with an careless word ... love
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 28 December 2017 19: 59
      +2
      Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
      and our tolerant deputies are all subtly hinting and hinting, probably afraid to offend with careless words subtle vulnerable souls ...

      word ???? to whom ??? inadequate ??? Well, let's deal with them with a virtual breach? to whom to respond?
  14. family tree
    family tree 28 December 2017 19: 40
    +6
    I heard that when a tired battalion entered Odessa in April 44th, all the traitors were already hung up in the lanterns.
    And they lost the people.
    For Kiev, in the 43rd 418 thousand, against 400 thousand Wehrmacht.
    Well, so as not to say, about defense and the offensive
    You know, comrade Ukrainians, you are reluctant to free anyone else, you want to put up with this huckster, you have the flag in your hands.
    In Odessa, for the German occupation, by the way 98 thousand civilians were multiplied by zero and 78 thousand were taken out to migrant workers to Deutsche, which is Uber Alles, although Ukraine has never been seen before. So kind of? Doesn’t resemble anything? Well, eat, don’t get stuck, but at least until heartburn, maybe he will catch who else wants to jump what
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 28 December 2017 19: 53
      +6
      I agree with you. History teaches us that it teaches nothing. Not for that, my grandfather reached the Reichstag so that now such a bacchanalia would occur. And where?!! Damn her in Ukraine! It just doesn't fit in my head!
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 28 December 2017 21: 36
        +1
        Quote: Benzorez
        It just doesn't fit in my head!

        Oh. do not complex. it is not only in your head. it’s already impossible to understand anything.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 28 December 2017 20: 00
      +5
      Quote: perepilka
      I heard that when a tired battalion entered Odessa in April 44th, all the traitors were already hung up in the lanterns.

    3. Antares
      Antares 28 December 2017 22: 54
      +1
      Quote: perepilka
      You know, comrade Ukrainians, you are reluctant to free anyone else, you want to put up with this huckster, you have the flag in your hands.

      it’s unlikely that you will liberate anyone at all and will “liberate” them. Then there was the USSR and he liberated part of his territory. and an approximate figure - 3 million people - of the dead Ukrainians who were in the Red Army. Losses from the militia, partisans, underground and civilians are unknown.
      And every 6 Ukrainians died in that war. And the Ukrainians died in the army - in second place after the Russians. The same heroes and awarded ...
      so that Soviet Russians and Ukrainians, without a thought whether to liberate their united country, liberated it at the cost of losses.
      Assigning a common victory is now fashionable. And to argue who we want whom we do not want ....
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 29 December 2017 00: 30
        +5
        Quote: Antares
        it’s unlikely that you will liberate anyone at all and will “liberate” them.

        But Syria was liberated at the copperworks, passing under the control of Assad’s army.
        Quote: Antares
        And every 6 Ukrainians died in that war. And the Ukrainians died in the army - in second place after the Russians. The same heroes and awarded ...

        And what are you Urkaines, so quickly they forgot about the Ukrainians who died at the hands of the Nazis and allowed the Urkain Natsiks to elevate Bandera and Shukhevych to the rank of heroes and arrange torchlight processions with a swastika in their hands. Why do you have more rights than Hitler’s henchmen of the “veteran” of the OUN UPA than those who fought against fascism?
        Quote: Antares
        Assigning a common victory is now fashionable.

        It is not we who assigns the victory, it was you who refused it to please the Americans, betraying the memory of the dead Ukrainians.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 29 December 2017 11: 31
          +1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          It is not we who assigns the victory, it was you who refused it to please the Americans, betraying the memory of the dead Ukrainians.

          so they no longer have Victory Day holiday. themselves refused.
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 29 December 2017 11: 28
        +1
        Quote: Antares
        . Then there was the USSR and he liberated part of his territory

        to Berlin? Thank you, now I already know that our entire geyropa laughing
      3. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 6 January 2018 22: 21
        +1
        So that’s the thing, the Germans killed indiscriminately. Bombing - without asking for passports and nationality. And people didn’t fight because you are Ukrainian, go to the front ... I personally am a half-breed. For whom will I fight correctly? For the Russians or the aggressor ?!
        And if I see the aggressor of today's Ukraine with the United States ?!
      4. the lord
        the lord 7 January 2018 07: 58
        0
        And we have every right as the real successors of the USSR. And you are disgusting renegades. You sold out to the Ameroids, selling everything you could and especially what you couldn't. You have made the word "Ukrainian" a synonym for the word "scoundrel." You have actors who starred in Soviet films about the Second World War in advertisements of the GDSS gundos and Soviet awards are pocked in your pockets. You yourself refused this victory, confirming that the Russians and their allies, and not the Ukrainians, defeated the enemy. And the fact that many of you died then is not a fact. For it is not known how many of those who lived on the territory of the USSR considered themselves Ukrainians. Maybe there were not 100 percent of these among the UPA. So - do not cling to our victory, Ukrainian, - dig the sea
  15. HEATHER
    HEATHER 28 December 2017 19: 49
    0
    Sad and scary. Well, what have you done, nerds. But this song is not about you. Hint. But it’ll be late.
  16. evaee
    evaee 28 December 2017 19: 52
    +2
    And Gazprom will do it! Reduces prices and starts at Ukrainians again a sweet life, again it will be possible to spray gas, pull with payment .... But Gazprom is not used to stepping on an old rake, it will also stop Nord Stream ... This is business, baby, nothing too much ... After all, Russia sends diesel fuel for Ukrainian tanks and military equipment, and does not frown ....
  17. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 28 December 2017 19: 56
    +1
    Chairman of the Energy Committee of the lower house of the Russian parliament, Pavel Zavalny, notes that that gas ... costs Ukrainians an average of 20 dollars per thousand cubic meters more expensive.

    I’m bastard bluntly - How do Russian parliamentarians care about the interests of their native Nazi Ukrainians ?!
    They can’t eat, everyone is thinking how to alleviate the “suffering” of their native Bandera ...
    Putin
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 28 December 2017 20: 26
      +1
      Is May Bi a tricky plan?
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 28 December 2017 20: 43
      +3
      Quote: kunstkammer
      I’m bastard bluntly - How do Russian parliamentarians care about the interests of their native Nazi Ukrainians ?!

      I'm happy for you. bastard. but the truth I did not understand where there is the opinion of the Russian parliament.
      They can’t eat, everyone is thinking how to alleviate the “suffering” of their native Bandera ...

      eat. but there is no desire to ask Khokhlorad how they brought the country? all selling glad.
  18. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 28 December 2017 20: 41
    0
    It's time, on the exchanges, to introduce a new position: "Non-corruption gas")) And Poroshenko, quickly, register a patent))
  19. 1536
    1536 28 December 2017 20: 45
    +3
    You need to send them to all the dogs.
    Do our gas workers really have not a drop of pride, or is it necessary for those pennies that the inhabitants of 404 will transfer to them from Europeans for this gas? Gas is a strategic raw material. Or Ukraine stops the civil war on its territory, expels all foreigners, led by the American agent, robbing and killing the Ukrainian people, or no gas.
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 28 December 2017 21: 06
      0
      If our gas workers block the valve, fraternal Belarus will save
      1. Ronald Reagan
        Ronald Reagan 28 December 2017 21: 40
        0
        Belarus does not follow the precepts of the grandfather of Adik, unlike the eastern neighbor. laughing
  20. Kerensky
    Kerensky 28 December 2017 20: 45
    0
    And why is this for us? To lower rates for our people.

    Oh cunning Petro Lekseich! Whatever the price at the entrance, tariffs are only rising.
    And we have the same: oil has risen in price - gasoline has risen in price. Oil has fallen in price - gasoline has risen in price ....
  21. Dormidont
    Dormidont 28 December 2017 21: 05
    0
    And after all, he didn’t lie one iota, saying: "... I will do everything to reduce tariffs for our people ..." And not a word about ancient ukrov
  22. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 28 December 2017 21: 17
    +1
    Quote: LSA57
    I did not understand where there is the opinion of Russian parliamentarians

    Chairman of the Energy Committee of the Lower House of the Russian Parliament
    ask hohlorad how they brought the country?

    This is to whom the summoner? To me? Citizen of Russia. Or do you call the State Duma of Russia “Khokhlorada”? The comparison is great! Respect!
  23. bondxnumx
    bondxnumx 28 December 2017 22: 07
    -1
    Achinea nonsense, If Gazprom will be some kind of bonded decisions to implement --- Only then is it possible to say that Gazprom Bent! And SO parashenko "heroically won the war against the occupation"))))))) ---- BECAUSE and wants to buy gas, and not ask)))))))))
  24. evil partisan
    evil partisan 28 December 2017 22: 23
    +1
    I attended once at a meeting in Yugorsk, which was led by Pasha Zavalny. Enchanting spectacle sad ... And what orders he issued on Tyumentransgaz - this is a separate song wassat .... And you look-already a parliamentarian ... what
  25. Antares
    Antares 28 December 2017 23: 00
    +2
    in fact, it is not clear why Gazprom and Russian parliamentarians are so nervous when they buy gas not directly, but more expensive. Well, they want to at least exorbitantly. Although the price is different at the hubs ... And there is no political pressure. True, the price is higher more often than lower.
    How about me, it will be cheaper it will be better. But not for the population. For us, the import price plus shipping. Even domestic gas is priced at import. Although cheaper at times. So if you win a discount of $ 20, the population will still pay the full price of the most expensive gas + delivery. Only Naftogaz will benefit. Well and Gazprom-Gas Volumes)
    So here Poroshenko is lying openly, lobbying for Naftogaz’s profits.
  26. Lexus
    Lexus 29 December 2017 00: 12
    +4
    Rather, they would have covered the ukrogazsystem,

    let them self-gasify.
  27. Siberian 1975
    Siberian 1975 29 December 2017 02: 39
    0
    Do you know what annoys me? The phrase "our deputy is hinting" annoys me. But she’s directly afraid to say something? As this political correctness has already lifted up. Even with dill, we are "perplexed, hinted, puzzled and worried."
  28. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 29 December 2017 02: 49
    +1
    ce zrada zradnaya chi peremozhnaya peremoga ...
    I do not understand))))
    according to him, and so on and so on ...
    Poroshenko’s great commander, the time of great successes has come, Ukrainians are simply obliged to rejoice and shout: "Dyakuyemo, Mr. President, dyakuyemo!"
  29. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 29 December 2017 03: 33
    +4
    What is good in one place? There you need to scream the guard.
  30. LeonidL
    LeonidL 29 December 2017 06: 11
    0
    Petyunchik explained why Russian gas from Russia is better than Russian gas from Slovakia ... In a couple of days, he will begin to enlighten in the brain about coal?
  31. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 29 December 2017 06: 46
    0
    lol Well, Parsley in his repertoire! As always, he has continuous "breakthroughs"! tongue
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 29 December 2017 11: 34
      +1
      Quote: ibn.shamai
      Well, Parsley in his repertoire! As always, he has continuous "breakthroughs"!

      there is one. a relative climbed onto the roof. turned out not to be carlson
  32. Mikhail Filippov
    Mikhail Filippov 29 December 2017 11: 15
    0
    In fact, Ukraine can really do without Russian gas. And even without Donetsk coal. In the western regions there is both coal and gas. Only here the oligarchs who rake money, sitting on financial flows, the development of these deposits is not profitable
  33. Petr1968
    Petr1968 29 December 2017 13: 39
    0
    Why Kiev will buy gas from the "aggressor country"? Poroshenko explained

    Exactly for the same reason we sell gas to fascists and Bendera, who kill Russian old women and children.
  34. Petr1968
    Petr1968 29 December 2017 13: 42
    0
    But interestingly, for sofa warriors it replaces the orgasm? I'm talking about choosing a country and practicing my cheap tricks ... I'm not a crest, it's just fun to watch this circus ... And are the jokes really stupid, to distort the name? Tongue? The name of the country? Petrosion ... or full house ... to anyone as you like ...