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New Su-30SM replenish the fleet of the Air Force of Kazakhstan

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The Air Force of the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan has been replenished with another batch of modern Su-30CM multi-role fighters of the 4 ++ generation, the press service of the republic’s defense ministry reports. This party entered service with the Kazakh army in the framework of military-technical cooperation between Kazakhstan and Russia. Information on the number of fighters arriving in the country is not given.


As noted in the press service spread on Thursday, advanced technologies were used on these types of aircraft.

New Su-30SM replenish the fleet of the Air Force of Kazakhstan


In particular, they are equipped with the latest navigation systems, the information and control field has multifunctional displays.
- indicated in the message. In addition, modern weapons, which can carry a plane, has doubled.

The aircraft can use anti-radar and anti-ship guided missiles, medium and short-range guided air-to-air missiles, highly accurate aviation bombs
- noted the commander of the military unit N21751 Colonel Askar Izbasov, whose words are given in the message. In terms of their flight and tactical and technical characteristics, these fighters are very close to fifth-generation aircraft, which are currently at the top of the world scientific and technological progress in the aviation industry, the press service noted.

The aircraft is capable of performing a wide range of combat missions at a considerable distance from the base, around the clock, all-weather, in the conditions of information and fire resistance of the enemy. Su-30SM solves the problem of the destruction of air targets, as well as ground and surface objects, equipped with a wide range of weapons and a modern complex of onboard radio-electronic equipment.

The first batches of Su-30SM aircraft entered service with the Kazakh Air Force in 2015 and 2016 under the agreements reached earlier between the leadership of the defense departments of Kazakhstan and Russia, reports INTERFAX-KAZAKHSTAN
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 28 December 2017 10: 40 New
    +3
    The rearmament of the neighbors, it is necessary, or even so, will have to fight by ourselves.
    1. dorz
      dorz 28 December 2017 10: 52 New
      +3
      Information on the number of fighters arriving in the country is not given.

      The number can be counted on the fingers of one hand, there should be many such aircraft.
      1. kapitan92
        kapitan92 28 December 2017 11: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: dorz
        Information on the number of fighters arriving in the country is not given.

        The number can be counted on the fingers of one hand, there should be many such aircraft.

        I agree with you! Probably it depends on the solvency of the customer? hi
        1. FLOOD
          FLOOD 28 December 2017 15: 11 New
          +3
          The first flight of the Su-30SM took place on September 21, 2012. At the end of the same year, the aircraft was adopted and the Russian Ministry of Defense signed a contract for the supply of 30 fighters until the end of 2016. As of 2014, the Russian Air Force ordered 60 fighters, additional contracts were concluded in 2015 and 2016. As of November 2016, 71 Su-30SMs were sent to combat units. Four more Su-30SM will be made for the Air Force of Kazakhstan.
        2. FLOOD
          FLOOD 28 December 2017 15: 13 New
          +2
          The export price is 80 lyam, Kazakhstan for domestic prices for 50.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 28 December 2017 15: 57 New
            +5
            The contract for 36 cars until 2020. Here our army men threw good money for the purchase (for the last three years 18-20) - we discuss a couple of days with a fellow countryman. The rearmament of most of our aviation is coming. Therefore, there is confidence that the contract will be fully implemented.
            It may happen that the RK becomes the first "foreign customer" for the new IL-476. Most likely we will take a lot of turntables (by our standards). If only the Russians with the MiG-35 fussed in advance, they would definitely have taken it. hi
            1. FLOOD
              FLOOD 28 December 2017 16: 29 New
              +1
              So this is excellent, as many as three squadrons! It will be possible even to swing ailerons over the Great Wall of China wink
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 28 December 2017 16: 40 New
                +3
                Elnur, will not work. The Chinese asked (the Russian Federation too) to keep our air force away from 100km. zones held. Especially the MiG-31. We have an agreement on this border zone (on the Chinese side, similarly) - no offensive and strike forces in this zone. So they fly east-west. hi
            2. brr1
              brr1 28 December 2017 23: 15 New
              +1
              Kaseke, I think after the purchase a few more people from MORK to the Kozlenok pioneer camp will leave
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 29 December 2017 16: 09 New
                +1
                In fact, our lasopasniks are sitting on the "old". For novya NAS itself decides a lot with GDP. The prices for the CSTO countries are domestic - you can’t especially indulge in kickbacks. For the "repair and modernization" someone took for the gills. Abroad, only that which is not produced in the CIS (UAVs, transporters, electronics and equipment) - there is also “soil” for lamp-strikers. hi
    2. avt
      avt 28 December 2017 11: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: Teberii
      Re-equipment of neighbors is necessary

      what Only they identified these new machines in the aerobatic team wassat But actually this is their business. They seem to pay well, but they do our machines.
      1. Chertt
        Chertt 28 December 2017 11: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: avt
        well anasha machines do.

        Freud Reservation tongue Chuy valley it is south
        1. Humpty
          Humpty 28 December 2017 12: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Chertt
          Quote: avt
          well anasha machines do.

          Freud Reservation tongue Chuy valley it is south

          What? I mean south? Do you know exactly where the plans are? In fact, the Chuy Valley is located to the north of the plans, and to the south and east. But to the west there.
          Planes are not taken for nothing, this is important.
          1. Siban
            Siban 28 December 2017 12: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: dorz
            The number can be counted on the fingers of one hand, there should be many such aircraft.
            The total supply of Su-30СМ to Kazakhstan may amount to 36 units up to the 2020 year, Vedomosti interlocutors said, in this case the total purchase price will exceed $ 2 billion.
            Quote: Humpty
            Planes are not taken for nothing, this is important.
            Yes, something is not in line with the current trend in sales of Russian weapons. It was necessary for Kazakhstan to purchase these fighters on a Russian loan. And after a certain time of the Russian Federation, this loan was restructured, that is, it was written off ..
            1. pavelty
              pavelty 28 December 2017 12: 48 New
              +1
              Airplanes are sold for rubles, almost at prices for the Russian Defense Ministry
              1. Siban
                Siban 28 December 2017 13: 47 New
                0
                Quote: pavlentiy
                Airplanes are sold for rubles, almost at prices for the Russian Defense Ministry
                Well, depending on how you calculate. It is well known that Russian weapons were sold (and sold) for palm oil, down jackets and consumer goods .. So another question is what is more profitable to buy in cash or barter ..
                1. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 28 December 2017 16: 15 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Siban
                  Russian weapons sold (Yes, and sold) for palm oil, down jackets and consumer goods .. So another question is what is more profitable to buy in cash or barter ..

                  Can you give links to Old sales of Russian weapons for down jackets and palm oil ???
                  1. Siban
                    Siban 28 December 2017 18: 48 New
                    0
                    Quote: kapitan92
                    Can you give links to Old sales of Russian weapons for down jackets and palm oil ???
                    Here on the site there is an article "Weapons for bananas" - in it in black and white about down jackets: "
                    For the post-Soviet 15 years, China bought weapons from Russia for 20 billion dollars. Here are Su-27 and Su-30 aircraft, S-300PMU and Tor-M1 air defense systems, Kilo submarines, tons of missiles and ammunition. The Celestial Empire has received a license for a part of the purchased weapons and is now quietly stamping it at its own enterprises. Russia in return found stew Jackets, toys, calculators and other consumer goods
                    About palm oil:
                    Malaysia, Ethiopia, Brazil, Vietnam, Thailand in 2000 – 2006 could offer for Russian weapons only rice, coffee, chicken legs, etc. In 2004, Indonesia paid for military property "palm oil and its components. "
                    From the last - "Russia made a deal of the century: for the batch of SU-35 will receive palm oil!"
                    https://topwar.ru/31994-oruzhie-za-banany-pochemu
                    -kachestvo-rossiyskogo-vooruzheniya-snizhaetsya-a
                    -eksport-rastet.
                    https://begemot.media/news/rossiya-zaklyuchila-sd
                    elku-veka-za-partiyu-su-35-poluchit-palmovoe-masl
                    o
                    1. kapitan92
                      kapitan92 28 December 2017 20: 43 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Siban
                      https://begemot.media/news/rossiya-zaklyuchila-sd
                      elku-veka-za-partiyu-su-35-poluchit-palmovoe-masl
                      o

                      Rostec and Indonesia's state-owned trading company PT Perusahaan Perdagangan signed a memorandum providing for the supply to Russia of Indonesian palm oil, coffee and tea.
                      A memorandum is not a contract!
                      https://topwar.ru/31994-oruzhie-za-banany-pochemu
                      -kachestvo-rossiyskogo-vooruzheniya-snizhaetsya-a
                      -eksport-rastet
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                      You carefully read the material that you send.


                      Quote: Siban
                      Here on the site there is an article "Weapons for bananas" - in it in black and white about down jackets: "

                      In 2006, a contract was concluded with a total value of about $ 1 billion.on which the Russian side delivered two missile boats of project 12418, and also organized the construction of six similar ships in Vietnam.
                      Since 2007, at the OJSC Zelenodolsk Plant named after A.M. Gorky (Tatarstan) four frigates (patrol ships) of Project 11661E ("Cheetah-3.9") were built for the Vietnamese Navy. In 2006, a supply contract was concluded the first two ships (worth about $ 350 million), in 2013 - two more (cost - about $ 700 million).
                      Under the 2009 contract, six diesel-electric submarines (DEPL) of project 06361 Varshavyanka were built for the Vietnamese fleet in Russia (according to NATO classification - Kilo-M). Taking into account the costs of the construction of infrastructure facilities, crew training, etc. The total value of the contract, according to experts, reaches $ 4 billion.

                      More on TASS:
                      http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/3306777
                      Learn to use reliable sources of information and read them carefully. hi
                      1. Siban
                        Siban 28 December 2017 22: 41 New
                        0
                        Quote: kapitan92
                        You carefully read the material that you send.
                        Yeah. “You do not have the same with pearl buttons?” (C). "Ihtamnet", "Vysovёrti"
                        Quote: kapitan92
                        A memorandum is not a contract!
                        "Indonesian authorities intend to supply coffee, palm oil and other raw materials to Russia in exchange for Su-35 fighters, said Indonesian Minister of Commerce Enggartiasto Lukita." Although you write that "the minister is not the president" ..
                        Quote: kapitan92
                        Learn to use reliable sources of information and read them carefully.
                        © RIA Novosti, not an argument ..
                        In Vietnam - 2000; write-off of 11-billionth (in dollar terms) debt to Vietnam. And shortly before the contracts you mentioned, Russia gave Vietnam a loan worth 10 billions of dollars. The total amount of the Russian loan to Vietnam is about $ 10 billion, Russian President Vladimir Putin said following talks with his Vietnamese counterpart, Cheong Tan Shang.
                        "The total loan is about $ 10 billion," Putin said.
                        I hope you believe Putin? Those. Vietnam buys Russian weapons for Russian loans, which can also be written off in the future ..
                        I am not against loans, but why write off? In the end, "debt does not ask to feed." Would give when they could. Again, they could go to court to the extreme. Won the other day they arrested 22 billion dollars. Kazakhstan. Who prevented the RF from doing this. Barter is not the worst either. Just not to lose production. But after all, the profit from these muddy schemes will go into the pocket of affiliated companies.
              2. Kasym
                Kasym 28 December 2017 16: 05 New
                +3
                Most likely for bucks. Russia is the only country where Kazakhstan buys more than it sells - rubles are in short supply. wink . It is also possible in RMB or our tenge.
                The news is good. Yesterday, only with a fellow countryman we were perplexed for deliveries - and now "on you"!
                Before that, there were 6 Su-30SM. Then followed the approval of an additional agreement for 12 cars. How many came I don’t know.
                ABT, the previous 6 went to the aerobatic team (Barca Zhetysu). These are already militants. hi
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 28 December 2017 16: 15 New
                  +2
                  Two sides 07 and 08 came to the photo of the TENGRI NEWS website.
                2. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 28 December 2017 16: 25 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Kasym
                  Most likely for bucks. Russia is the only country where Kazakhstan buys more than it sells - rubles are in short supply. . It is also possible in RMB or our tenge.

                  Recall that earlier, Kazakhstan under two contracts ordered a total of 11 Su-30SM fighters built by the Irkutsk Aviation Plant of Irkut Corporation PJSC.about the first contract of 2014 worth about 5 billion rubles Kazakhstan received four Su-30SM fighters with red tail numbers from “01” to “04” (serial numbers, respectively, from 10MK5 1118 to 1120 and 1201), which arrived at the 604th air base of the Air Defense Forces of Kazakhstan in Taldy-Kurgan on April 17, 2015.

                  At the end of 2015, Kazakhstan concluded the following contract worth more than 10 billion rubles for the purchase of seven additional Su-30SM fighters. The first two of them (red tail numbers "05" and "06", serial numbers 10MK5 1315 and 10MK5 1316) arrived at the 604th air base of the Air Defense Forces of Kazakhstan in Taldy-Kurgan on December 27, 2016. The supply of two more vehicles under this contract is reportedly expected by the end of 2017, and the remaining three in 2018.

                  Earlier it was reported that the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan plans to purchase a total of X-NUMX aircraft Su-2020CM before 36.

                  https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2843290.html hi
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 28 December 2017 17: 20 New
                    +2
                    Captain, there is such a thing. The general contract was signed in the year 14 at the KADEKS exhibition. Then, in fact, additional agreements on this contract went. In the year 15 (April 17), the first 4 aircraft. Then 2 more in December 2016. Now here's another 2 - December 2017 .. Total 8 cars. There was infa on the VO website for the contract (additional agreement) for 12 aircraft (September 12 this year).
                    But okay that. Three days ago, a fellow countryman made me happy for the “big jackpot” that was allocated to aviation for our air forces for three years. In 15-17 there was a sharp increase in the budget of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan. Now here we have examined the next three years. Countryman (he is present on the site) wrote that the lion's share will go to the Air Force. Sorry, but infa is not mine, so I will not name the amount. But this is very, very big money. If only it were confirmed - the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation will receive substantial money from the Republic of Kazakhstan. We are a couple of days wondering where and what will be done. He wrote that there would be a modernization of all Su-25s (they were sent to our reserve) - apparently the experience of Syria suggested to us. He also wrote that 01 approved the budget.
                    I somehow don’t want to guess at VO - I don’t want to look like a balabol if I see anything like that. Our Elbasy redistribute funds once spit. hi
                    But judging by the state of the Air Force, the contract for all Su-30SM (36 units) will be completed until the end. Here's what else is interesting. Look at the amounts of these contracts - and now transfer to dollars. at that rate. I don’t remember what it was at that time, but it’s definitely less than $ 30 million. per unit - here you have the internal price - we are introducted. price sell. I understand that the price is in rubles. But then the sanctions went and you needed the dollars that we have. But due to the imbalance in trade, there may be different and different currencies.
                3. avt
                  avt 29 December 2017 11: 35 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Kasym
                  ABT, the previous 6 went to the aerobatic team (Barca Zhetysu). These are already militants.

                  hi Well, actually, it’s a sin to give such a pilot a flight. request Well, you would have a hundred of those .. And so in fact while the squadron is only planned quite a full-fledged wagon.
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 29 December 2017 16: 15 New
                    +2
                    ABT, so these "aerobatics" are now instructors for young people. Yours in 15g. when the first 4 boards arrived, they trained and dragged ours in Taldy-Kurgan for half a year, left at the end of the same year - now this is up to the flight crews. In our media article was an interview with one of them. hi
            2. Humpty
              Humpty 28 December 2017 13: 26 New
              0
              Quote: Siban
              It was necessary for Kazakhstan to purchase these fighters on a Russian loan. And after a certain time of the Russian Federation, this loan was restructured, that is, it was written off ..

              You yourself know how people can. In one mountainous, but at the same time very independent republic, Russia just delivered large such, large guns for nothing. I really don’t know how to transport them from railway through passes, tunnels. There are probably ways, especially if in parts. The question is, who then to entrust to collect so that there are no extra nuts left.
        2. FLOOD
          FLOOD 28 December 2017 15: 20 New
          +1
          laughing laughing laughing well, man did not share wassat
    3. FLOOD
      FLOOD 28 December 2017 15: 08 New
      +1
      Why neighbors, the language does not turn to say (that is, write) allies?))
  2. san4es
    san4es 28 December 2017 10: 53 New
    +5
    Su-30SM solves the tasks of destroying air targets, as well as ground and surface objects
    soldier
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  4. Olezhek
    Olezhek 28 December 2017 16: 23 New
    +1
    And how will the pilot training be organized?
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 28 December 2017 17: 42 New
      +2
      Our before the first delivery in Irkutsk settled for half a year (contract in 14g.). After the arrival of the first 4 boards, Russian instructors arrived (April 15g). At the end of the year 15, they left Taldy-Kurgan. Founded the aerobatic team of Barca Zhetysu. Now they are cooking hi
      In combat aviation, they say PILOT, pilots in civil aviation.
  5. Nemesis
    Nemesis 29 December 2017 01: 03 New
    0
    Again, Putin is arming foreign states at the expense and expense of the Russian Federation ... But supposedly there is not enough money for the rearmament of the Russian army and the social package in the Russian budget ....
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 29 December 2017 16: 15 New
      +1
      I am ashamed to be so stupid.
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 29 December 2017 16: 17 New
        0
        It is shameful and despicable to spend Russian money on foreign countries ... Kazakhstan goes to Latin ... Among my friends are Russian refugees from Alma-Ata ... I believe that the time will come when the tribunal will take up such anti-Russian affairs ...
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 29 December 2017 17: 14 New
          +1
          The contract for 36 cars, which is PAID by Kazakhstan - do you need work for your factories !?
          You went too far about refugees - there are a lot of Russians from Kazakhstan on the site, ask them. But refugees from Ukraine even appeared here - those who moved after the collapse.
          I already wrote about the Latin alphabet and I don’t want to argue. I am not an official, but I assume the following. 6 Turkic states in the world: more than 120 million in Latin (Turkey, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan), about 25 million in Cyrillic (Kazakh., Turk. And Kyrgyz.). NAS is known for integration processes - make a conclusion yourself. No need to worry about Russian. Government decree both state. language in schools (regardless of the language of instruction) are taught in full, have the same number of hours. Even in Ukrainian, Uzbek, Uigur and Tajik schools - yes, there are some (88 schools - for 17 mil. Kazakhstan, this is very decent). There is even a German., Korean and Uyghur dram. theaters, which this year were awarded the status of academic - by the way, this is the only nat. theaters throughout the CIS. Well, go to the website of the Assembly of Peoples of Kazakhstan - it will be instructive.
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 29 December 2017 17: 18 New
            0
            Paid ?! Kazakhstan pays only the cost, which is beneficial only to Kazakhstan, but not Russia, especially given the far from friendly policy of Kazakhstan to the Russian Federation ...
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 29 December 2017 17: 56 New
              +1
              Facts where? I will bring others: Rosneft gave all the power of our pipeline to China - 10 million. tons Uzbeks ask for oil - agreed with ... Tyumen. One place on Gazprom’s board of directors for Kazakhstan is our three pipelines to China, and there’s not a drop of gas there. Uranium, rare-earth metals, grain (every third loaf in Moscow from our grain - there is not enough gluten in your grain, even import from Israel) - think at world prices !? Transit to Central Asia at the intra-Kazakhstan price, and EBN forced to build 500 km. railway near our borders (of course, from our side). Thanks to our new 2500km. railway your transit growth with China doubles every year.
              I can continue further, but I don’t want to contact you.
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 29 December 2017 18: 35 New
                0
                Russia sells grain, and its own, and not yours ... Gazprom, this is a private shop, not Russia ... You have loot from transit, and Russia has such a large border with China that you can and should do without ...
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 29 December 2017 21: 04 New
                  +1
                  Nemesis, you are poorly versed in wheat and cereals, there is a CLASS. To bake bread, you need wheat with a high content of GLUTEN, which you do not have enough - even import from Israel ... It's sad that you do not understand - you need a lot of sun, and this is in the south. Rye, oats, etc. - these are also cereals ...
                  Sadly, you don’t know the geography at all and the railway routes. Take a detour, it will be a couple of thousand km. farther. Then, they have a different track. And we at the border built 2 stations to change the railway wheels. If you now throw all the s / s Sino-Russian border, then w \ d just get up. It is necessary to build at least BAM -2i3 in order to serve the entire flow for today. And he is growing. At the time of the collapse of the USSR from the People's Republic of China — 240 thousand tons of cargo passed through the KZ - today more than 50 million .. Can you replace it and how much will it cost?
                  2,5 t.km. w / d, and new ones - the whole CIS has not built so much during the collapse. And who wants to pay more for these 2 tkm of ways.
                  And geography is bad. KZ separates you from the early vegetables and fruits of Central Asia. And so that there would not be a rise in price, a decision has been made for you to leave the costs of railway within Kazakhstan. Cotton, aluminum, etc. “You need it.” Your textile capital will simply be left without raw materials. Your Krasnoyarsk alum. The plant works on our raw materials. Now we in Pavlodar have also begun production of winged metal - thereby its cost price has fallen for the entire Union.
                  "Kazakhstan is a champion in the transit of Chinese products to Europe." - comrade Si. Only in the fall, documents on 4 contacts were signed. composition (weekly) for one hundred cont. each to Russian cities (Ural, Tatarstan, Volga cities). If you want to bypass, it will be much more expensive. See maps. A railway route was built across Turkmenistan and Iran - across the south of the Caspian - but we are sending transit across Russia. The port of Kuryk was built in the Caspian Sea - the route via Azerbaijan, then Turkey and the EU - it is possible to the Black Sea to Georgia - but transit goes through Russia. So where is the unfriendly. relations?
                  A gas pipeline was built this fall with 8 pumped over. stations from the Orenburg gas processing plant (which runs on our raw materials from Karachaganak — could be built at home) to the point of our gas pipelines — an offer to pump Russian gas to the Kremlin — you can start pumping gas to China without waiting for the Power of Siberia.
                  December 27, 2017. Council of the CIS. GDP is literally: "Kazakhstan has been and remains our key partner in the fields of economy, region. And international security, as well as ensuring the defense capability of our countries." Do you believe your president? RK has the largest ash-shaft. reserves per capita in the CIS. Over 105 billion dollars. We are not poor relatives.
                  December 27, 2017 Council of the CIS. NAS literally: "We have agreed on ALL issues, including the Caspian Sea, Baikonur. In the space exploration sphere, it is planned to create a new type of rocket carriers operating on more ecological fuels." RK found money to support Roscosmos, which threw us 200 million. dale according to the Baiterek project.
                  So you will name the facts or will suffer Kazakhophobia - what did KZ do poorly for you and the Russian Federation - you never named examples !? Or will you go on with bile? Stop, we have the EAEU and the Republic of Kazakhstan with the Russian Federation - donors of this Union. hi
                  1. Nemesis
                    Nemesis 29 December 2017 21: 20 New
                    0
                    I am well versed in many things and fairy tales that some kind of soviet republic supposedly fed Russia, I have already heard, there is not a word of truth in them ... I already wrote that among my friends there are two families of Russian refugees from Alma-Ata and your country I do not consider either friend or ally of Russia ... Among the republics of the scoop, Russia has no friends ...
                    1. Kasym
                      Kasym 29 December 2017 21: 24 New
                      +1
                      Scoop means - everything is understood. Have a rest. I don’t see any examples, the discussion is over. laughing
                      Young, the whole USSR watched when there was suffering in Kazakhstan - but you don’t know why everyone was waiting for billions of pounds of grain. Take an interest in the topic.
                      1. Nemesis
                        Nemesis 29 December 2017 21: 27 New
                        0
                        And it’s been over for a long time with people like you since Russian refugees from Alma-Ata, Baku, Osh appeared among my friends ... I don’t consider the country of the scoop either friends or allies of Russia, they are all sick with Russophobia and attitude towards Russia they exclusively consumer
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2017 20: 18 New
              0
              Quote: Nemesis
              Kazakhstan pays only the cost, which is beneficial only to Kazakhstan, but not Russia

              By the way, if paid the full cost of Rossi is profitable
        2. Siban
          Siban 29 December 2017 18: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Nemesis
          Again Putin is arming foreign states at the expense and expense of the Russian Federation ..
          Oh, the State Department agent got out. Pay well in NGOs repeat?
          Quote: Nemesis
          Among my friends are Russian refugees from Alma-Ata ... I believe that the time will come when the tribunal will take up anti-Russian affairs like this ...
          What to expect request Legs in arms and forward to carry out the tribunal soldier Well, we wait a boom .. angry
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 29 December 2017 18: 33 New
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            And it didn’t occur to you that the agents of the State Department are precisely those who erect the monuments to Yeltsin, establish protection near them and flood Russia with foreigners suffering from Russophobia ?! How much they are paid for gifts to Uzbekistan 12 MI-35 helicopters at the expense and expense of the Russian Federation ?!
            1. Siban
              Siban 29 December 2017 20: 06 New
              +1
              Quote: Nemesis
              And it didn’t occur to you that the agents of the State Department are precisely those who put up monuments to Yeltsin
              Are you against Vladimir Vladimirovich ?! angry "If not He, then who? fool! Sold for cookies? Do you like in Ukraine sad?!
              Quote: Nemesis
              How much do they get paid for gifts to Uzbekistan of 12 MI-35 helicopters at the expense and expense of the Russian Federation ?!
              I’m afraid to notice repeat - note that Kazakhstan bought from the Russian fighters .. not at the expense and not to the detriment, and not as a gift .. lol
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 29 December 2017 21: 23 New
                0
                I do not consider the parishioners of the drunkard center patriots of Russia, gracious sovereign ...
        3. Siban
          Siban 29 December 2017 18: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Nemesis
          It is a shame and despicable thing to spend Russian money on foreign countries ...

          As i understand you yes I also consider. Why spend Kazakhstan's money on Russia. It’s better and more productive to buy Western weapons. Than the same notorious Su-30, you could buy European, American or at least Chinese fighters .. soldier
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 29 December 2017 21: 20 New
            +1
            Just fellow countryman wrote in PM. Su-30SM came stuffed. Even extra. container roofing felts with electronic warfare, roofing felts with sights. It has the ability to carry anti-ship missiles - we have no fleet in the Caspian - the weakest in the Caspian. Su-25s were also stuffed in Belarus. It can fly at altitudes of 5 km, instead of the previous 2 km. The number of weapons that can be used has been increased - up to 30 items, even anti-ship missiles - respectively, avionics are significantly updated. "Any whim for your money," as they say. hi
          2. Nemesis
            Nemesis 29 December 2017 21: 22 New
            0
            Buy at least in South Africa, but not in Russia ... We are tired of what you all get in the Russian Federation either on credit, which Putin then writes off, or at domestic prices ... Russia does not benefit you ...
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 29 December 2017 22: 07 New
              +1
              I bring the facts, and you are like a stubborn man. But you earn on this - that’s the good.
              You know at least something for cooperation with Kazatomprom and Rosatom. KZ - the first place in the world in production and reserves. How do you guarantee and build nuclear power plants around the world without a hack? Erdogan and Putin thanked for mediation for establishing relations after the well-known events. Astana format is the same. The Turan battalion in Syria could not do without us.
              Where are the facts of consumer relations - what time I ask - there is no answer and I won’t wait, definitely !?
              Here is a sea of ​​Russian Kazakhstanis on the site, ask them.
              Anyone can throw slogans and accusations. Yes, that's good from this 0.
              We have a Collective Security Treaty Organization; compatibility in ammunition and equipment is vital for the entire organization. This is logical, and here KZ is responsible for the words.
              Eh, youth, learn materiel.
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 29 December 2017 23: 24 New
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                Selling arms at domestic prices and a loan, and even the state from which Russian refugees leave, is, to put it mildly, stupidity, and if you think about it, it’s a crime
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 30 December 2017 00: 37 New
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                  More about the loan, pliz!
                  Facts where? The fact is that in the Republic of Kazakhstan 25-30% of the total number of citizens are Slavs! And if there are no facts, then goodbye, slogan! laughing
                  1. Nemesis
                    Nemesis 30 December 2017 08: 45 New
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                    And the facts are that the city of Verny, the territory of Russia occupied by Kazakhstan, among my friends there are two families of Russian refugees from Kazakhstan, and Putin gave the S-300 air defense systems to Kazakhstan for free, which joy is not clear, and even today the former scoop is armed and fed by and damage to Russia
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2017 20: 17 New
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                      Quote: Nemesis
                      and Putin gave Kazakhstan the S-300 air defense system for free, with which joy it’s not clear, and today the former scoop is arming and feeding the expense and to the detriment of Russia

                      how old are you that you write such nonsense?
  6. Wolka
    Wolka 29 December 2017 20: 28 New
    +1
    tea again for nothing
  7. Siban
    Siban 29 December 2017 21: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: Nemesis
    I am well versed in many things and fairy tales that some kind of soviet republic supposedly fed Russia, I have already heard, there is not a word of truth in them ...
    Nude so rejoice ma'am good Now you have got rid of Kazakhstan and other republics of Sovka - this burden with a heavy burden lying on the neck of the long-suffering Russian people. In this case, I wish you, ma'am, not to stop there and stop "feeding the Caucasus", Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Tuva, Yakutia, Mari El, Buryatia, Mordovia, Chuvashia, Nentsev, Karelians, Chukotka and others like them .. drinks
    Quote: Nemesis
    Among the republics of the scoop, Russia has no friends ...
    Well, yes. "Army and Navy" soldier
    Quote: Nemesis
    And it’s been over for a long time with people like you since Russian refugees from Alma-Ata, Baku, Osh appeared among my friends ...
    Yes belay But what about the tribunal that you promised us? And then I began to prepare for the meeting .. and so was deceived crying. You madam already decide - "either remove the cross or put on your underpants" lol
    1. Nemesis
      Nemesis 29 December 2017 23: 27 New
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      1) Why call me a woman from two accounts, call someone once a woman on the street ?! 2) This scoop got rid of Russia when it declared independence, and Russian refugees began to leave Russia for its republics ... 3) Now I want to convey to Soviet owl nationals only musical greetings, in the form of the song “Hobble quietly '' '
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 30 December 2017 00: 50 New
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        These three "friends" signed the Bialowieza Agreement. Then they raised a wave of nationalism in all other republics. "They don’t consider us to be people! They themselves gathered and destroyed our country!" This is a fact. Somewhere still could not repay this wave. In the KZ, they did it in a year and a half and created the Assembly of the Peoples of Kazakhstan - I suggested going to the website of this organization - there are all 130 diasporas of the KZ collected - yes, we still have representatives of 130 peoples, wars and upheavals, as in the upland There was no Karabakh or Caucasus.
        You also don’t know history, how old are you if you don’t know such things!
        The CIS arose due to the fact that the presidents of all republics gathered in Almaty and agreed to establish this organization (almost a few months after Bialowieza)! Poor fellow, who washed your brains like that. It is also a fact that Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan asked to remain in the ruble zone, but the envoy envoy Shokhin A.N. arrived. (such a bespectacled man who still walks upstairs in the Russian Federation) and announced that Russia does not see us in a single economic zone. This is also a story. Learn the story! Watch the movie "So the Stars."
        1. Nemesis
          Nemesis 30 December 2017 08: 47 New
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          The wave of nationalism was raised by Soviet-era soviet nationals, and long before the Bialowieza Agreements, which only legally formalized what had actually happened
      2. Siban
        Siban 30 December 2017 15: 34 New
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        Quote: Nemesis
        1) Why call me a woman from two accounts
        fool Aunt, quote where I called you a "woman" yes?!
        Quote: Nemesis
        Now, I want to convey to the Soviet national shovels only a musical greeting, in the form of a song, “Hobble quietly ''
        Join hi I hope for this hit, they quietly "get rid of such great-power chauvinists" - Tatarstan, Altai, Bashkiria, Udmurtia, Tuva, Yakutia, Mari El, Kalmykia, Karachay-Cherkessia, Buryatia, Mordovia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Ossetia, Chechnya, Ingushetia , Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, Karelia, Chukotka, Adygea, Komi.
        Wishing you on the eve of the New Year - to finally get rid of the heritage of the “damned scoop” bully
        1. Nemesis
          Nemesis 30 December 2017 17: 05 New
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          On the street, go call a man an aunt, a hero of the Internet ... Although, your courage is not enough for this .... In Tatarstan, Russians are 60%, and the Tatars are the second, after the Russians, in numbers, the indigenous people of Russia ... Bandera in Russia is indigenous they are not people .... I pray that Russia will pass a citizenship law similar to Qatar, Nepal and Saudi Arabia, so that Russia will be cleansed of Russophobic patriots of foreign states ... In the United States, a person accepting US citizenship vows to defend the United States with arms in his hands , including from his historical Motherland, if he is a migrant, and in Russia too many patriots of foreign states have divorced, including citizenship of the Russian Federation, which has long become a threat to national security in the Russian Federation ... It's time to fix it ...
          1. Siban
            Siban 30 December 2017 18: 23 New
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            Quote: Nemesis
            On the street go call a man aunt
            So are you one of these belay?
            Quote: Nemesis
            Although, your courage is not enough for this ...
            What's the problem, drive up to me on the street .. Boom to wait.
            Quote: Nemesis
            Bandera in the Russian Federation are not indigenous people ..
            So babamuzh, married or whatever yours? It?
            Where did I mention Banderarequest? But the Tatars, Bashkirs, Nenets, Yakuts, Buryats, Mari, Udmurts, Balkars, Kalmyks, Chechens and Ingush, the peoples of Dagestan, Karachays and Circassians, Chuvash, Chukchi and many other peoples are indigenous peoples of Russia ..
            Quote: Nemesis
            It's time to fix it ...
            Well, when will you start? Not an online military?
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2017 20: 09 New
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            Quote: Nemesis
            On the street go call a man an aunt, a hero of the Internet ...

            well, if on the street a "man" will wear a woman’s dress (I’m talking about you now), they’ll call them, or they can
  8. Nemesis
    Nemesis 30 December 2017 18: 28 New
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    Siban,
    You see what’s the matter ... Russia already uses Vietnamese ports and airfields today, although you are right about something, the price is high, But most important: In Russia there are no Russian refugees from Vietnam, but there are from the countries of the former scoop ... Ha ha ... These are your European values, I do not pretend to them and generally love women exclusively ...
    1. Siban
      Siban 30 December 2017 19: 04 New
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      Quote: Nemesis
      In Russia, there are no Russian refugees from Vietnam, but there are ...

      How can there be Russian refugees from Vietnam, if, in principle, there have never been as many Russians in Indochina as in the republics of the USSR. However, however, according to some unofficial estimates, the Vietnamese population of Russia is from 100 to 150 thousand people.
      Quote: Nemesis
      and in general I love exclusively women ...
      So you Nemesis - lesbianrepeatwassat?! Lesbianism is an indisputable Russian values laughingwhat?!
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 30 December 2017 19: 07 New
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        Well, you need someone to love women, if in Europe it is not fashionable ... Ha ha ...
        1. Siban
          Siban 30 December 2017 19: 38 New
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          Quote: Nemesis
          Well, you need someone to love women
          No, well, understandably there are few peasants in Russia. So you have to turn around ..
          There was even a candidate for the post of mayor of Omsk Dmitry Perevalsky proposed to improve the demographic situation in the city with the help of natives of Kazakhstan:
          Alcoholics alone: ​​in Omsk, they suggested raising the birth rate with the help of Kazakhstan
          An unusual initiative was taken by one of the 37 candidates for the post of mayor of Omsk. 44-year-old pensioner Dmitry Perevalsky decided to improve the demographic situation in the city by proposing to bring men from Northern Kazakhstan. According to SuperOmsk, Perevalsky sees a “demographic hole” in the city, although there are many women of childbearing age. “Their desire to start a family runs into an insurmountable barrier: some men are in prison, others work on a rotational basis, others are alcoholics, parasites, drug addicts,” Perevalsky quotes the publication. Young people, from the point of view of the candidate for mayor, do not know how to build a family yet - they need to be taught. Residents of Northern Kazakhstan can help in such a situation, Perevalsky is sure: “There are a lot of men who want to go to Omsk, but they are not called.” He offers to arrange for guests youth discos with the introduction of young Omsk women, high-speed dates. They will try to elect the new mayor of Omsk on November 22. In the spring of 2017, the election did not take place, since both candidates selected by the competitive commission for voting in the city council had withdrawn from the election.
          But you
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 30 December 2017 19: 59 New
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            Well, there aren’t enough men in Russia ... Ukrainians also have to pay attention, which were left without male attention, because of European fashion ... Ha ha
            1. Siban
              Siban 30 December 2017 20: 09 New
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              Quote: Nemesis
              Yes, there are not enough men in Russia ...
              Point on you Nemesis and it is visible ..
              Quote: Nemesis
              .You also have to pay attention to Ukrainians
              So you are an international lesbian am..
              They are "Bandera"stop
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 30 December 2017 20: 24 New
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                You do not ascribe your idols and merits to me, and before you write to me about my age and your supposedly great mind, from two accounts, make roads in your own place, in the Ternopol region ... You are trying in vain to get me crazy ... will not work
                1. Siban
                  Siban 30 December 2017 21: 30 New
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                  Quote: Nemesis
                  You do not ascribe your idols and merits
                  She herself wrote:
                  Ukrainians also have to pay attention
                  .
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  and before you write me about my age
                  Give me quotes where I wrote about your agerequest?
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  his supposedly great mind
                  Again, where did you see what I wrote about your mindfool?!
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  from two accounts
                  "Sapsem is bad, arc .."fellow
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  You're trying in vain to get me crazy ...
                  Why try if everything has long been launched .. yes
                  Either a woman or a husband .. what
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2017 21: 42 New
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                    leave the sick