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Results of the Syrian campaign: Russia is ready for war

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Formally, Russia is still not at war with anyone. But this is only from the point of view of the old definition of war. In fact, the war has already been going on for a long time, and the Russian army has already been really fighting for more than one year. But all this is just a preparation for the war that must be avoided by all means.

The 08.08.08 war was the first real test of strength for the Russian army. Then it was still far from the army that came to save Syria from terrorism after seven years. In terms of technical equipment, in terms of staffing structure, in terms of combat and tactical training, these were two completely different armed forces. And different in every sense of the word.

Technology and weapons

Perhaps, there is not a single army in the world today, except the Russian, which would be so intensively re-equipped with the latest technology. If you look at the procurement of weapons systems of the last decade and procurement plans for the coming years, we will see that by 2025, the Russian armed forces will be completely re-equipped with modern types of military equipment. And some of them will be head and shoulders above the technology of any probable and unbelievable opponent.



Just one example. The combat platform T-15 (heavy infantry fighting vehicle). She is already entering the army today, and yet few people know that in the United States a technical study of the same machine has long been carried out. The GCV (Ground Combat Vehicle, ground combat vehicle) development program was launched in 2011, but, as it became completely clear in 2015, the American military-industrial complex is not capable of creating such a machine even in the foreseeable future. It was either too heavy (70 tons instead of 60 tons), or did not provide the necessary level of protection. Already in 2016, the Pentagon allocated money for the next modernization of the old Bradley M2 M15, and in November of the same year the first Russian pre-production T-XNUMXs developed on the platform entered Red Square in Moscow tank T-14 Armata ...

It was a real slap in the US military-industrial complex.

Yes, “Almaty” in the Syrian war was not noted, but more than 200 units of other modern and promising Russian military equipment were tested there. In a real war, Russian engineers and the military were able to run in it and eliminate the identified shortcomings. And it is worth a lot.

Skill, training, experience

For a modern army, it is necessary to have advanced military equipment, but this condition is not sufficient to guarantee superiority over the enemy. It is also necessary to master this technique skillfully and to apply it correctly.

How many copies were broken about the reform of the Russian armed forces! In 2000 and the beginning of 2010, the ground forces underwent several reforms when first brigades of one type were created, and then another, but in the end the army stopped at the re-establishment of the divisional structure. Also, the new look will be given to the airborne and the marines.

Results of the Syrian campaign: Russia is ready for war


New technology allowed to implement and new tactics. For example, with the launch of the family of combat vehicles based on the BMD-4, the firing and, therefore, tactical capabilities of the Russian highly mobile forces are dramatically expanded. And the adoption of the Kurganets-25 platform will allow the Russian mobile forces to get a car comparable in capabilities with Western non-water and non-airborne combat vehicles. This will immediately make them equal on the battlefield to the so-called heavy NATO units. Or almost equal ...

The new equipment allows the Russian military not only to master modern combat tactics, but also to invent a new one. For example, no one in the world in the near future will have such brigade divisions that could redeploy thousands of kilometers within hours (days) and immediately go into battle far from logistic deployment points (airfields, ports, railway stations). Moreover, these units are armed with the heaviest weaponry today (BM with tank 125 mm guns and 152 mm self-propelled howitzers).

So, there is a technique. There are new tactics and new opportunities for their use. But the troops must also learn to use them.

The exercises in the Russian army in recent years have become commonplace, and their scope and objectives are constantly growing. We take only the current year.



The “Zapad-2017” exercise was essentially a test of the rapid transfer of the Russian 1 tank army to western Belarus, as well as the deployment of the 11 AK (in the Kaliningrad region), the 6 and 20 armies in the western operational sector (these exercises also took part a significant part of the airborne troops).



Battle campaign of the ships of the North fleet to the Taimyr Peninsula and landing in the area of ​​motorized rifle units, marine corps and again the Airborne Forces - this is today an unprecedented combined landing operation conducted in addition to the Arctic Circle.

In the meantime, the Syrian campaign allowed for two years to run in a real combat situation 48 thousands of soldiers and officers of the Russian Armed Forces. In fact, the composition of several buildings ...

Understanding the essence of modern war

Technique is. Troops trained in training and hardened in battle. In order for such an armed force to be considered fully combat-ready, it also needs a control system of the same level.

Anyone, even a very good tool, must also be able to use. Nobody paid attention to how, after every big exercise of this or that Russian general, they either began to move up the career ladder, or the person cleaned up for less responsible work, or even went to “well-deserved” rest.

In fact, a very interesting activity today is to trace the career of Russian generals. Highly recommend.

Today they all have real combat experience. As the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia, General of the Army Valery Gerasimov, said recently, all the commanders of the okrugs with their staffs went on long missions to Syria.



“Janitors, Kartapolov, Surovikin, Zarudnitsky, Zhuravlev ... They arrived with the main staff of their administrative staff: chiefs of operational management, intelligence, communications, rocket forces and artillery, engineers ...”


Also, all army commanders (with headquarters), 90% of division commanders, and more than half of the commanders of the regiments and brigades passed through Syria.

How did they show themselves? Let's rate by result. In my opinion, very good. And some of their operations were generally beyond the understanding of their Western "colleagues." And to those who organized and implemented the operation on the offensive of the CAA from Aleppo to the Euphrates, you can generally assign any operation. The troops fought, having an experienced and strong opponent in front of them, in just forty days passed 150-200 km and thus prevented a possible blow to the south of Kurdish "allies", after which the Syrian campaign could be considered lost by the Americans. It was these brilliant operations carried out in 2017, in many respects that decided the outcome of the entire campaign.

So, you can proceed to the conclusions. The reform of the Russian armed forces, although not yet complete, has already achieved many intermediate results. Today, the country has a combat-ready army equipped with modern weapons, soldiers, officers and top commanders of whom have gained combat experience and mastered the latest methods and tactics of combat operations. And the factor of Syria in all this was by no means the last.
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  1. shinobi
    shinobi 28 December 2017 15: 24 New
    +8
    One thing is right, the war has been going on for a long time. Actually, it never ended.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 28 December 2017 15: 29 New
      27
      It’s just that Russia “left” the war in 1985-2000. And lost vast territories and almost the entire economy
      1. papas-57
        papas-57 28 December 2017 21: 46 New
        +4
        "Russia is ready for war." No country in the world has ever been 100% ready for war. There was always something missing.
    2. olegfbi
      olegfbi 28 December 2017 15: 43 New
      15
      One thing is right, the war has been going on for a long time. In fact, it never ended

      Yes, right! That's just the combat readiness of the army is evaluated not only by its direct combat capabilities!
      Unfortunately, we have a big problem in logistics. This problem is expressed in a catastrophic shortage of medical staff of hospitals, staff of support services, etc. Well, they don’t pay doctors and sisters ... (not officers), but such more than 90% of the medical staff!
      A separate issue in ensuring civilian rear - How will all visitors come to behave in conditions of war ??? The visitors are not only citizens of the Central Asian republics, but also Ukrainians, Poles, Italians, Germans ... How to ensure the rear, having far from an unambiguous situation with the population?
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 28 December 2017 16: 39 New
        15
        Quote: olegfbi
        Yes, right! That's just the combat readiness of the army is evaluated not only by its direct combat capabilities!

        In no case can not be imbued with "hats" following the results of the Syrian company.
        Yes, a lot has been done there, but ...
        The airborne forces operated in a very limited composition, in the absence of modern air defense by the barmalei, there were no enemy attacks on our bases, naval communications operated in peacetime, and ground troops, motorized rifle and tank units, except for special forces, were not used.
        In Syria, this was not necessary, there the Syrians, Iranians, Hezbollah, etc., fought on earth.
        We supported them very effectively.
        But, for example, there will be no Iranians and Hezbollah in the Banderlog strategic direction.
        And we have half of the conscripts in motorized rifles ... etc. etc.
        This is not to say that management does nothing. Combined arms formations are being formed (restored), new equipment is being delivered, but the work is not yet a plowed field.
        And in improving the organizational structure, and in manning, and, especially, in creating a sufficient prepared mobilization reserve.
        1. Per se.
          Per se. 28 December 2017 18: 34 New
          12
          Quote: Alekseev
          In no case can not be imbued with "hats" following the results of the Syrian company.
          That's it for sure. Neither the war in Syria, nor Chechnya, nor Afgan, are indicative of the readiness for war with a full-fledged army, especially with a coalition having dominance at sea of ​​its fleet, a powerful air defense system, a satellite grouping, an air force many times superior to Russia, and so on. was the militants, who used mainly partisan tactics, in local wars, limited by the specifics of the geographical region, the specifics of the theater of military operations. The most important thing is to talk about readiness for war, having problems with mobile reserves, strategic stocks of ammunition and in general in industry, somehow smacks of hurray-patriotism, at best. So, here it is not necessary to tear the accordion about “readiness for war”, and it is unlikely to transfer the conclusions on police and anti-terrorist operations to the plane of a big war. The fact that it justified itself against militants and terrorists is not a fact that it will be effective in a real, big war. Singing the praises of raw platforms that have not yet recommended themselves, and are not even put into service, is also a dubious delight. I did not like the article, but for a long time it is necessary to prepare for war, yesterday.
          1. Wayfarer
            Wayfarer 28 December 2017 19: 02 New
            +3
            Quote: Per se.
            having the dominance of its fleet at sea, a powerful air defense system, satellite constellation, the Air Force, many times superior to the Russian
            There is an old recipe for this used by Napoleon: to beat the enemy in parts. And in this regard, there may be a chance, if we strike first and impose our initiative on the enemy, the ground forces will advance intensively, destroying the thrown reserves in a hurry, and frustrate mobilization plans.
            1. krokus792
              krokus792 3 January 2018 08: 36 New
              0
              And their men will shoot everything that happens on a smartphone.
          2. Mih1974
            Mih1974 28 December 2017 20: 42 New
            +5
            And how do you forgive yourself imagine the "war of equal opponents"? Well, seriously - who is our “equal opponent”, well, let’s say Turkey could have resisted less or less and their fleet is large, China is huge - but we are more likely “strategic partners” (back to back so that we wouldn’t grumble one at a time), here Ukria is rather a huge mass of distraught fascists, but there is complete technological backwardness. Notice I didn’t mention the United States, yes it is they who have a large army comparable to us, BUT - the war between us (direct) is possible only Nuclear negative Therefore, it does not matter how much we have or what they have more than nuclear. Well, which of those listed by me can become a real enemy on the battlefield? I'm not talking about theory, but about a more or less real alignment. The same Turkey "chopped up" its military so that they were not burned a little more boldly in Syria (monstrous losses), all sorts of Georgia or who from Asia are foolish (well, it can happen) so at the moment, even without nuclear weapons, Russia can force any of them to the world "(with one or another loss). Well, of course, everything is decided by the will of the Russian leadership to use nuclear weapons good . Including “proactively” focusing on our borders. And there is nothing wrong with preemptively burning the Tribaltic or Poland to ashes if the American missiles or large US groups are deployed on their territory. Because it’s better to listen to their Wigs then, than how to retreat to Moscow 41. good
            PySy: at the expense of Ukraine. I have been writing for a long time here and in other places - a strike by cruise missiles in Kiev, in the places of deployment of the CIA and the main fascists and the FSE !! good The surviving "lice" - will rush to hell, most likely under the "umbrella" of NATO. After that, what happened in Georgia will come - or you will immediately become "peaceful" and no fascists, or we will "add". Believe me, after such a public statement, another hundred thousand fascists will be “evacuated”. Well, the rest will breathe freely and begin to rebuild the Country. good And the locals will be engaged in the capture of the "buried" fascists, the people there have long been "marked with crystals" whom to hang in the first place. Well, for example, the head of the DPR can take Kiev. good laughing , let order impose and “introduce interim management” at the enterprises (that remained) thieves.
            1. Per se.
              Per se. 29 December 2017 05: 53 New
              +2
              Quote: Mih1974
              Well, seriously - who we have an "equal opponent"

              Who is an equal opponent for us, are you asking me? If you believe in the statement that Russia is “ready for war,” here, unequivocally, you need to understand that you are ready with any adversary. If Russia is “ready for war” only with a convenient, obviously weaker adversary ... Well, then, at a minimum, it is necessary to clarify that we have “readiness” only against individual terrorists, backward countries, for which, at the same time, no one will intercede. In this case, “readiness”, as they say, must be “either put on cowards or remove the cross” by making statements.
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 28 December 2017 16: 57 New
        +4
        Cowards, traitors and alarmists to shoot on the spot. And so there was an article on the VO about attracting civilian doctors (if that), and in my opinion they are all (doctors) in the Russian Federation liable for military service.
        1. olegfbi
          olegfbi 28 December 2017 17: 25 New
          +6
          Cowards, traitors and alarmists to shoot on the spot.

          Yeah ...
          You tell this to a doctor who, when choosing a job, finds out that they pay half as much in a military hospital as in a neighboring civil hospital ... What do you think the doctor will choose? Yes patriotism, yes love for the motherland (without irony), but people need to live TODAY !!!
          Well, I’ll add: Today, in military hospitals, civilian personnel is more than 90%! Moreover, the vast majority of working civilians have a pre-retirement and / or retirement age! There are simply no military posts on the staffing table. Where does GVMU look and think?
          Is this not treason and treason on the part of the HLMU, expressed in the "killing" of military medicine?
          Something like this.
          1. bk316
            bk316 28 December 2017 18: 46 New
            +5
            Something like this.

            The problem that you described is, but you are a little disingenuous.
            If you in the topic should know who and what medical institutions (let's say) deployed in Syria.
            There were definitely less than half military doctors, and it was not they who commanded.
            And nothing turned out that both civilian (and yes military-obliged) doctors are quite suitable.
            1. olegfbi
              olegfbi 5 January 2018 23: 47 New
              0
              Sorry that I did not reply for a while.
              People from mobile medical units of special purpose were moving to Syria. There are 3-4 such units in the district. Now count how many counties? We will receive, at best, 16 units for ALL of Russia !!! Do you think this is a lot or a little ...?
      3. 210ox
        210ox 28 December 2017 18: 24 New
        +2
        You raised a very topical topic, and this concerns mobilization. I believe that the whole trouble is in the socio-political structure and lack of ideology.
        Quote: olegfbi
        One thing is right, the war has been going on for a long time. In fact, it never ended

        Yes, right! That's just the combat readiness of the army is evaluated not only by its direct combat capabilities!
        Unfortunately, we have a big problem in logistics. This problem is expressed in a catastrophic shortage of medical staff of hospitals, staff of support services, etc. Well, they don’t pay doctors and sisters ... (not officers), but such more than 90% of the medical staff!
        A separate issue in ensuring civilian rear - How will all visitors come to behave in conditions of war ??? The visitors are not only citizens of the Central Asian republics, but also Ukrainians, Poles, Italians, Germans ... How to ensure the rear, having far from an unambiguous situation with the population?
        1. bk316
          bk316 28 December 2017 18: 48 New
          +4
          I believe that the whole trouble is in the socio-political structure and lack of ideology.

          Like Vysotsky "Churchill invented all this in 18 ..."
          It remains to be glad that the probable opponent has exactly the same socio-political structure. belay
          1. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 28 December 2017 21: 51 New
            0
            I hope you accidentally wrote the name of Vladimir Semenovich with a small letter?
            1. bk316
              bk316 28 December 2017 23: 10 New
              +2
              You're right by chance
        2. olegfbi
          olegfbi 28 December 2017 18: 50 New
          0
          You raised a very hot topic.

          I know, and quite consciously did it.
          Thank you for noticing. Unfortunately, not everyone understands the depth and acuteness of the topic.
          I'd like to hope that our discussion will help in making the right decisions.
      4. johnik
        johnik 29 December 2017 04: 45 New
        0
        And in the Crimea he swore the tires twice as least ...
      5. Pivasik
        Pivasik 30 December 2017 14: 20 New
        0
        In Syria, left 3 battalions of the military police ... there is an opportunity to break in "the issue of ensuring civil rear" for all those responsible
      6. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 2 January 2018 14: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: olegfbi
        Yes, right! That's just the combat readiness of the army is evaluated not only by its direct combat capabilities!


        can better assess the combat readiness of the army in the context of history ??? wink yes Hitler had such a rear, but that didn’t help him !!! wassat wassat and don’t forget that at the beginning of the war the situation will change dramatically and no one will sit on the VO and strike out spatially demagogical comments about the rear, visitors, the population and other blah blah blah !! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    3. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 28 December 2017 21: 25 New
      +7
      Technology, training, army ... In fact, all these arguments are the level of counselor pioneer units.
      There is no ideology. The country's wealth is in the hands of 1% of very dishonorable people. In the service of which the current president. All (without exception) leadership positions are occupied by party representatives, whose slogan is "enrich yourself before you sit down." And who are ready to fall into the legs of any aggressor, if only their capital would be preserved.
      It was already all this. And to burn out (namely - BURN) you need all this with an iron hand. Which is not now.
      So - is the country ready for war? I'm not talking about Georgia and not about Ukraine and the Baltic states. And about the United States and NATO. About the real war. So, comrade author?
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 28 December 2017 21: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Stock Officer
        There is no ideology.

        Any ideology is a sure sign of fascism.
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 28 December 2017 21: 47 New
          +4
          Lies and stupidity. Or training manual of the State Department.
          Without ideology, there is no state. In the USSR there was an ideology that helped to win. Do you want to say that the USSR is a fascist state ?! You will not dream about the eyes of the fallen soldiers in World War II at night?
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                  1. KaPToC
                    KaPToC 28 December 2017 23: 22 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Stock Officer
                    Are you a youth And I am with you, as with an adult ...

                    Go to the person again! Here I am such a young man - I managed to visit the USSR as a pioneer.
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            2. flicker
              flicker 28 December 2017 22: 43 New
              +2
              It would be interesting to know: why did the French, Poles, Czechs, etc., not fight for their families, their homes, for the lives of their loved ones and not so people?
              1. KaPToC
                KaPToC 28 December 2017 23: 06 New
                0
                Quote: flicker
                It would be interesting to know: why did the French, Poles, Czechs, etc., not fight for their families, their homes, for the lives of their loved ones and not so people?

                Someone fought, someone not, someone more, someone less, you want to say that in all these countries there was no ideology?
                1. flicker
                  flicker 28 December 2017 23: 17 New
                  +2
                  Probably, judging by how not so hot they fought, ... but I still have a question: what is the function of ideology itself?
                  Why is there so much talk about her?
                  1. KaPToC
                    KaPToC 28 December 2017 23: 28 New
                    0
                    Quote: flicker
                    Probably, judging by how not so hot they fought, ... but I still have a question: what is the function of ideology itself?
                    Why is there so much talk about her?

                    In theory, ideology unites territories and countries, but in practice, ideology divides the previously monolithic states and nations.
                    1. flicker
                      flicker 29 December 2017 12: 59 New
                      +2
                      It is clear that the theory exists by itself, and the practice itself - well, that is, complete independence and freedom from each other. Actually, I used to think that they were somehow connected among themselves ... it seems that he was mistaken. request
                      1. KaPToC
                        KaPToC 29 December 2017 18: 24 New
                        0
                        Quote: flicker
                        Actually, I used to think that they were somehow connected among themselves ... it seems that he was mistaken.

                        Everything is normal with the theory, people are mistaken - they wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
        2. astronom1973n
          astronom1973n 29 December 2017 06: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: KaPToC
          Any ideology is a sure sign of fascism.

          Think what you say. no Without ideology, at the moment we have what we have now.
        3. stivev
          stivev 29 December 2017 06: 58 New
          0
          Quote: KaPToC
          Quote: Stock Officer
          There is no ideology.

          Any ideology is a sure sign of fascism.

          Pathological stupidity
        4. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 29 December 2017 10: 11 New
          0
          Quote: KaPToC
          Any ideology is a sure sign of fascism.

          Vegetarianism and love for Wagner's works are also. smile
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 29 December 2017 18: 25 New
            0
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Vegetarianism and love for Wagner's works are also.

            A person is not adapted to grass nutrition.
      2. Shahno
        Shahno 28 December 2017 22: 13 New
        +2
        You ask questions. Was Israel ready for the Doomsday War? Ready. At 100 percent But he could have lost, because he was presumptuous. Such moments cannot be counted. When a lion is pressed against a wall (or a bear), the result is not predictable. And it doesn’t matter where the wealth, capital, in whose hands they were before the military confrontation.
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 28 December 2017 22: 38 New
          +5
          Pavel, good comment. But you must admit that the Arab-Israeli wars are a special case. Since the essence of this is a war of weapons of the USSR and the USA, only the performers in the person of the Arabs were obviously useless. I know very well how many kilometers the Israeli army had to Cairo, I know why it was not taken, I know why the USSR then broke off diplomatic relations with Israel. Israel could then lose, you are right. And in all military science he had to play.
          But you have a peculiar thousand-year ideology. Good or bad - not to discuss now. But there is. And this is respected, although I am not an admirer of your values. And this, by the way, is the only float that allows you to survive surrounded by the Arab world. Although your country is very small. You can talk about American help a thousand times, but if this help is not in demand by patriotic movements, i.e. the same ideology, then it is useless.
          What I want to wish you is peace with our neighbors and not meeting us on the battlefield.
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 28 December 2017 23: 40 New
            +1
            And you too .... Yes, and you find a general idea would not be very bad.
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 28 December 2017 15: 26 New
    10
    Just one example. The combat platform T-15 (heavy infantry fighting vehicle). Today she’s entering the army,

    From which Karachun does she enter the troops, can the author explain?
    1. viktorch
      viktorch 28 December 2017 15: 48 New
      0
      theoretically arrives and then retreats

      and what does the author of bradl do not like? normal car
    2. the most important
      the most important 28 December 2017 16: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: NEXUS
      From which Karachun does she enter the troops, can the author explain?

      Not everything is so beautiful in practice, as it is written in the article ... Too many slogans without a critical understanding of the situation, and this is bad.
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 28 December 2017 16: 58 New
        +1
        But not everything is as bad as you want to imagine. Progress on the face and it’s stupid to deny it.
    3. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 28 December 2017 16: 54 New
      14
      The author lives in a parallel world. Most of the article is empty and bravura chatter.
      "Perhaps there is not a single army in the world today, except for the Russian, which would not be so intensively rearmament with the latest technology." - No comments.
      “The T-15 combat platform (heavy infantry fighting vehicle). It is already entering the troops today, and yet few people know ...” - perhaps only in the author’s fantasy knowledge. Found a miracle, heavy BMP.
      "..And adopting the new Kurganets-25 platform will make it possible for the Russian mobile forces to get a car comparable in capabilities to Western non-naval and non-descent combat vehicles." - with the adoption of Kurgan-25, everything is not clear from the word at all. And when he became a landing.
      "... In the meantime, the Syrian campaign allowed for 48 soldiers and officers of the Russian Armed Forces to be tested in a real combat situation in two years." -interesting, the author is able to name how many US troops have combat experience in Iraq and Afghanistan.
      And so on, the Hasek satire is resting.
      1. parma
        parma 29 December 2017 06: 53 New
        +1
        C'mon, the New Year is coming soon ... Everyone will shout “Hooray!”, So the author decided to insert his 5 kopecks, probably before joyful exclamations, from the side it will look like he’s happy with his thoughts ...
        In general, the Syrian company did not show anything (by the way it didn’t end, whoever said anything, even with the IS there are still fighting somewhere) in terms of readiness for war .... Expand a couple of dozen aircraft for the bombing of their children, who have air defense tayots with DKSh is not a readiness for war .... If you so argue, then the United States (and many who are still from NATO) for such a war (and given that the Taliban had some kind of even airplanes and air defense, though almost suitable) have been ready for 15 years !! 48 thousand soldiers and an officer with experience ... Ahem ... experience, excuse me? Base seats or transportation of humanitarian aid to the rear? only a small percentage got real experience (I even doubt that pilots sorties can be called combat experience ... What is the difference with the training ground when there is no air defense?) ..
        In general, there are achievements, and if we take the 90s of the beginning of the 2000s, then they are big, but if we compare with what is still needed, then everything is ahead ...
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 28 December 2017 15: 27 New
    +4
    The picture with the location map and the number of troops must be replaced. Obviously it was not intended for this article, it’s not necessary to drag any crap from Ukrainian resources here.
    1. ZVO
      ZVO 28 December 2017 22: 41 New
      0
      Quote: inkass_98
      do not drag any crap here from Ukrainian resources.

      The author comes from urkaini ..
      Hiding behind the "hatred" of the existing government ...
      But what he writes is all to the detriment of Russia.
      Wrazhina in one word ...
      1. Jodina
        Jodina 29 December 2017 13: 03 New
        0
        That is absolutely true! He writes such crap - he doesn’t fit on his head. Sneaky and treacherous enemy!
  4. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 28 December 2017 15: 28 New
    +8
    In fact, the war has been going on for a long time, and the Russian army has already been at war for years.
    Here is all of Russia in the know, except for "our" authorities, that Western savages, mainly Americans, are openly fighting with us. What is going on with us war is already heard from every iron. But only our authorities "do not know" about it, or "hide", or something else ... Amerovyrodki and their henchmen openly call us enemies at all levels, and our authorities, as if nothing had happened, something mumbles indistinctly, wipes himself off from spitting, and twists out of his teeth, although it is clear that the Anglo-Zionists do not even consider them to be people, not to speak on equal terms. I wonder - they themselves are not disgusted and not ashamed? Or does the thirst for profit completely discourage such concepts as pride, honor and dignity? Moreover, they steal, and even dishonor the Russian people and the State!
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 28 December 2017 15: 41 New
      +6
      Quote: Antianglosaks
      Here is the whole of Russia in the course, except for "our" authorities,

      And you returned Crimea, and in Syria, USA + ISIS, you crumble, dozens more examples to cite where Russia is an Anglo-Saxon bone in the throat ?. And according to your "authorities do not know" and everything happens by itself ...... I understand your anger and resentment, but you also need to turn on your head.
      1. ando_bor
        ando_bor 28 December 2017 16: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Chertt
        I understand your anger and resentment, but you must also include your head.

        - Yes, for which they are only paid money, or maybe they take the money and troll the customer by publishing an obvious nonsense - I can’t imagine such stupid people in real life.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 28 December 2017 17: 30 New
        +3
        Crimea is you returned
        Why, then, did not return Donbass, Kharkov and other lands? ..
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 28 December 2017 17: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: Gardamir
          Why, then, did not return Donbass, Kharkov and other lands? ..

          I wrote about my head there .... read ...... Russia and Alaska did not return, and California and Nice were the "Russian village", they also have not returned. Why ?? probably you do not want evil
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 28 December 2017 18: 42 New
            +3
            Alaska
            What does Alaska have to do with it? They began to return the Crimea, according to the logic of the Donbass, there would be no railroad around, no bridge to the island of Crimea. And Kharkov at that time was a real candidate for a return, but the Kremlin had enough of Crimea.
            1. Chertt
              Chertt 28 December 2017 18: 52 New
              +2
              Quote: Gardamir
              They began to return the Crimea, according to the logic of Donbass

              There were thousands of factors, why ... no one will answer, and if he starts to answer, he’s lying. But certainly not because the “corrupt government” betrayed, sold, traitors, Zionists, anti-Semites (underline as necessary)
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 28 December 2017 19: 29 New
                +2
                There were thousands of factors
                Yeltsin had thousands of factors, Gorbachev, but they are scolded, and this one doing the same is justified. What you begin to scold when he leaves, so I'm not with you.
              2. sa-ag
                sa-ag 31 December 2017 14: 37 New
                0
                Quote: Chertt
                There were thousands of factors

                Og, the great thousands, exactly one - money, very big money that could disappear in the west
          2. bk316
            bk316 28 December 2017 18: 50 New
            +3
            Russia and Alaska did not return, and California and Nice were the "Russian village",

            AND THIS ..... SPACE IS NECESSARY TO RETURN, Gagarin is the first! drinks
        2. KaPToC
          KaPToC 28 December 2017 21: 45 New
          0
          Quote: Gardamir
          Why, then, did not return Donbass, Kharkov and other lands? ..

          Not all at once; resources are not unlimited.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 31 December 2017 14: 40 New
            +1
            Quote: KaPToC
            Not all at once; resources are not unlimited.

            What resources, left-bank Ukraine from Kharkov to Odessa is a self-sufficient region with a full production cycle: Kharkov - machine building, Donbass - energy raw materials, Dnipropetrovsk region - GOKs, Mariupol - metallurgy, Zaporozhye - nuclear energy, Kherson - agriculture, Nikolaev - shipyards, and do not need the mantra "who will feed them", they could feed themselves and equip themselves if they could do everything wisely, and not as always
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 31 December 2017 15: 10 New
              0
              Quote: sa-ag
              Kharkov - machine building, Donbass - energy raw materials, Dnipropetrovsk region - GOKs, Mariupol - metallurgy, Zaporozhye - nuclear energy, Kherson - agriculture, Nikolaev - shipyards, and you don’t need the mantra “who will feed them”, they will feed themselves

              Here you are all about a freebie and a freebie. Nobody is going to feed them, they fed themselves for twenty years, the resources for waging war are not unlimited.
  5. viktorch
    viktorch 28 December 2017 15: 49 New
    +2
    just one question:

    What specific enemy is Russia ready to cut with?
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 28 December 2017 16: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: viktorch
      just one question:
      What specific enemy is Russia ready to cut with?

      I will answer your question for Yuri Podolyak (Yurasumy) ....... With any
      1. viktorch
        viktorch 28 December 2017 16: 20 New
        +2
        in truth
        I don’t see any country on the map, is it in Africa? or south america?
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 28 December 2017 16: 35 New
          +2
          Well, what a child bickering, you have something to say, tell me. And your rebuses, this is "in favor of the poor"
  6. antivirus
    antivirus 28 December 2017 16: 00 New
    +1
    And to the one who organized and implemented the operation on the advance of the SAA from Aleppo to the Euphrates, you can generally entrust any operation

    and from Donetsk to San ??

    availability 500 t - NOTHING.
    CHAPTER REARS - TODAY DEPTH ON THE WING RADIUS RADIUS, COUNT. Kazan and Irkutsk are ready to milk their milk, pasteurize and water the people?
    and they will plant potatoes with rye and put the bins and + metal (in department 1) in the proper number?
  7. Bastinda
    Bastinda 28 December 2017 17: 01 New
    11
    Amazing! We can’t do the telephone, the microprocessor, too, we buy the engines abroad, like almost all the machines for their production.
    But in the Army! In all ahead of world analogues! Maybe because of secrecy?
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 28 December 2017 17: 27 New
    10
    All even those born in the Russian Federation think in Soviet categories. Who will fight with whom. Well, Putin is already alive, but where are the children of Peskov? Where is the money and relatives of the other capitalist ministers? And all of them supposedly will be at war? Does anyone imagine that the sons of I.V. Stalin would drive Mercedes in Berlin in 1943? And now they tell us about the so-called war, but the rulers seem to know nothing about the war.
    1. bk316
      bk316 28 December 2017 18: 53 New
      +3
      Who and with whom will fight

      Change the plate. Bored girls. Even to explain that this is just an ideological stamp is boring.
      You such commits with cliches and think and speak.
    2. KaPToC
      KaPToC 28 December 2017 21: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      Where is the money and relatives of other capitalist ministers?

      All that you wrote is complete crap. Maybe they have children and villas abroad, but here the sources of income are in Russia, and they have a reliable rear in Russia.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 28 December 2017 22: 32 New
        +2
        reliable rear in Russia.
        and for the rear to be reliable, it is necessary to think about the people, at least once in a while. And then, as for me personally. If you want to live richly, live, but you don’t have to go brain-wise with your liberalism-anti-Sovietism.
  9. cedar
    cedar 28 December 2017 17: 40 New
    +3
    "The results of the Syrian campaign: Russia is ready for war."

    The war will check how and how ready ...
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 31 December 2017 14: 42 New
      0
      Quote: cedar
      "The results of the Syrian campaign: Russia is ready for war."

      If ready, then obviously for such a war, a downed plane is evidence of this
  10. groks
    groks 28 December 2017 18: 23 New
    +5
    Election campaign. Perhaps it is necessary to compile a register of such authors.
    Actually in Syria, the army trained for a large-scale CTO. Less for border conflict with which southern neighbors. Given the fact that even Serdyukov began to reform the army into large explosives and all sorts of little things yet ... and not small things. Not a lot of fun.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 28 December 2017 19: 16 New
      0
      Quote: groks
      trained for large-scale CTO.

      +
  11. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 28 December 2017 18: 38 New
    +2
    The troops with the commanders trained, we tested the equipment and weapons, we studied the planning and tactics in practice, we used the old ammunition to good use and got a lot more useful in this regard - this is very good of course. But for some reason, no one said anything about how Russia began to look in the world in comparison with two years earlier and which one they saw Russia. Russia has returned to its rightful place in the world, and now it infuriates all our sworn “partners”, they still continue to bark at us by inertia, but nothing, will calm down and shut up and will run to friends to Russia. The price of the Syrian company is certainly high, how many good people — our military men have been lost there, eternal memory in our hearts and thanks to them, General Khalilov and Dr. Lisa, artists of the ensemble — we will not forget you ... Yes, after all this, Russia is ready for war and not in order to attack someone, but in order to live in peace. We want peace and therefore are only ready for war and nothing else.
  12. cedar
    cedar 28 December 2017 18: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: cedar
    "The results of the Syrian campaign: Russia is ready for war."

    The war will check how and how ready ...

    See, watch and not bz.im.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 28 December 2017 19: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: cedar
      Visible

      Edros Zhe Fedorov in Kashchenko already waiting. The remaining NODovtsy, at a minimum, need a sanatorium.
  13. ZVO
    ZVO 28 December 2017 18: 53 New
    12
    Agitation with a minus sign.
    Agitation, the text of which is even a truly patriotically developed person - is bewildering.
    after all, everything in it is excessively swollen, excessively fantasy, everything is too proportionate.
    And patriotism is excessive.
    To disgust - excessive.
    For we live in this country, we see. what is in this country and how it actually lives.
    And with us. normal patriots, there is a "cognitive dissonance."
    We see one thing - and they tell us another.
    This article is another example of the destruction of patriotism in the country.
    Want to kill a good idea? Bring her to the point of absurdity and no one will seriously consider her.
    The author is really a hire of the State Department.
    And he writes such articles not at the behest of the heart, not at the level of his development.
    And at the request of its leaders.
    They need to bring the attitude towards the Patriots to the level of absurdity, to the level of "lepers" ..
    Then. word Patriot will become abusive.
    And patriotism will disappear from our lives in general. like a national taboo.
    And then. take us warm.
    Like natolerastnyh Euroopians.

    By the way, I remind you again.
    never, in the last 20 years on our Internet there has been such a dominance of “idiots-idiots-patriotism and idiots-hatreds” as in the last 4 years.
    Obama once said introducing sanctions-it is necessary to ruin Russia from the inside.
    On the one hand, school-age navalnitsy (which are sure to grow up and begin to maidan in 10 years, if they are not tamed now)
    On the other hand, there is simply a huge, infinitely huge number of “patriots-idiots” that suddenly arose.
    Which write unambiguously "according to scripts", according to manuals. They do not understand anything. They don’t know anything. They just chill and sing praises. They only insult other nations and humiliate them.
    You see, a causal relationship?

    it’s they, the "idiot-idler" - who are the real paid agents of the State Department ...
    Yuri Podolyaka (Yurasumy) - I blame you for the fact that you are Russophobe and spend all your modern life on the fight against Russia.
    You are the enemy of this Country of Russia. My Country, Our Country
    You do not raise the spirit of patriotism - you destroy it from within.
    You are just a garbage society ...

    Sorry for the pathos - but just boil from such outrage ...
    1. rudolff
      rudolff 28 December 2017 18: 57 New
      +3
      Bravo, Alex! I support
  14. Karabin
    Karabin 28 December 2017 19: 36 New
    +1
    The author watched TV and retold all the victorious stories, all at once, in one article. ANALYTICS, however! It turned out patriotic. Kamlaite, author, further.
  15. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 28 December 2017 19: 44 New
    +1
    I started reading and almost immediately realized: Bah, yes this is Yuri! laughing
    He wrote many times, but I repeat once again: the war has been going on for a long time! Unfortunately, Russia is still losing more than winning. Yes, there are achievements of the tactical plan, but they do not fundamentally affect the outcome. We do not have the main thing: neither the idea of ​​ideology, nor the leader around whom we could rally! And the upcoming elections will show it!
  16. Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 28 December 2017 20: 49 New
    +6
    What war is Russia ready for? Only to such a one as in Syria, where in response there is no action by the Navy, Tomahawks, aviation, air defense, etc., etc. And you wondered how many calibers are produced in Russia per year? So, most of the reserves were used up, they were used almost piece by piece and at large intervals, which in itself speaks of their extremely insignificant amount! The use of carrier-based aviation is a separate issue. Most of the flights took place not from Kuzi, but from Syrian land airports. Deck pilots are simply afraid of the deck like fire, there is very little experience and, as a result, 2 ditched (not cheap aircraft) from 14. Calculate the percentage of non-combat losses! Returning to the Gauges - what a serious war will be enough for them, once again - look at the statistics (open) about their production and everything will become clear. Even though the Caliber is a hundred times better than the Tomahawks, there are hundreds of them, and there are thousands of Tomahawks! What are we all about "high" - in Russia there are eternal and chronic problems even with powder and cartridge factories. Scandals and showdowns are regular and traditional! And ships that are built for 10-11 years and construction programs that are always delayed and carried over ..... You can talk a lot .... According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, there are statistics on fleets about the required number of ships by class! So - a shortage - in all classes and fleets - hundreds and hundreds of units !!! We have raised a generation of hat-takers and draftsmen, who, without knowing anything at all, are ready to tear and defeat everyone! And such self-deception is VERY AND VERY DANGEROUS! Remember 1941, as an example!
  17. AshiSolo
    AshiSolo 28 December 2017 21: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: Mih1974
    And how do you forgive yourself imagine the "war of equal opponents"? Well, seriously - who is our “equal opponent”, well, let’s say Turkey could have resisted less or less and their fleet is large, China is huge - but we are more likely “strategic partners” (back to back so that we wouldn’t grumble one at a time), here Ukria is rather a huge mass of distraught fascists, but there is complete technological backwardness. Notice I didn’t mention the United States, yes it is they who have a large army comparable to us, BUT - the war between us (direct) is possible only Nuclear negative Therefore, it does not matter how much we have or what they have more than nuclear. Well, which of those listed by me can become a real enemy on the battlefield? I'm not talking about theory, but about a more or less real alignment. The same Turkey "chopped up" its military so that they were not burned a little more boldly in Syria (monstrous losses), all sorts of Georgia or who from Asia are foolish (well, it can happen) so at the moment, even without nuclear weapons, Russia can force any of them to the world "(with one or another loss). Well, of course, everything is decided by the will of the Russian leadership to use nuclear weapons good . Including “proactively” focusing on our borders. And there is nothing wrong with preemptively burning the Tribaltic or Poland to ashes if the American missiles or large US groups are deployed on their territory. Because it’s better to listen to their Wigs then, than how to retreat to Moscow 41. good
    PySy: at the expense of Ukraine. I have been writing for a long time here and in other places - a strike by cruise missiles in Kiev, in the places of deployment of the CIA and the main fascists and the FSE !! good The surviving "lice" - will rush to hell, most likely under the "umbrella" of NATO. After that, what happened in Georgia will come - or you will immediately become "peaceful" and no fascists, or we will "add". Believe me, after such a public statement, another hundred thousand fascists will be “evacuated”. Well, the rest will breathe freely and begin to rebuild the Country. good And the locals will be engaged in the capture of the "buried" fascists, the people there have long been "marked with crystals" whom to hang in the first place. Well, for example, the head of the DPR can take Kiev. good laughing , let order impose and “introduce interim management” at the enterprises (that remained) thieves.

    Lord, it’s good that you are on the couch, not in the General Staff. They at least think there. And you would have to give a little thought room for Christmas ...
  18. flicker
    flicker 28 December 2017 22: 25 New
    +2
    After the western coast of the Euphrates was cleared (along which the largest and most significant agglomerations of eastern Syria are located) and taken under the control of Abu Kemal, and thereby amer’s plan on the land corridor between the Kurds and Jordan was disrupted, the significance of terrorist groups for the United States (in addition but significantly interrupted) decreased sharply.
    Russia has fulfilled its main function at this stage, which was announced by withdrawing part of its forces.
    Another thing is that the Americans, having lost the war of “moderate and immoderate terrorists against Assad” at this stage, tried to rekindle a new conflict with other actors: Arabs against Israel - first of all, to confront Russia with an unprofitable choice: whose side to take. Russia made it clear (loudly announcing the withdrawal of its troops) that those who intend to ignite the conflict should participate in it. After such a turn, the initiators of the conflict noticeably tempered their ardor (both sides) and began to release everything on the brakes.
    So Russia won another battle without becoming a participant in it and thereby preventing it, maybe only for a while, but still.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 28 December 2017 22: 32 New
      0
      Do not overestimate the role of states in BV. The situation, as it were, is completely different. Our thoughts put the Arabs in their place. Make them be manageable. All efforts have been made. Israel hinted to the Arab world. If you do not go to the world, you will encounter the powers that be. The hint was understood. Even Erdogan ...
      1. flicker
        flicker 28 December 2017 23: 05 New
        +2
        I hope that I overestimate the role of states in the BV.
        But the question is: if the states want to start a war between Israel and the Arabs (wider Muslims), can they do it?
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 28 December 2017 23: 30 New
          0
          Not. They can’t. You accept the thought. Israel is not the states. We are just good friends. And friends support, we do not want to untie anything.
          1. flicker
            flicker 29 December 2017 00: 34 New
            +2
            Moreover, long-standing, long-standing and very reliable allies. The United States was a country with tremendous political, economic, informational and military capabilities, and Israel could use these opportunities, just as much as he tried his best to help promote the interests of the states.
            But, but these long-standing and reliable ties form a certain logical pattern: everything the United States does is beneficial to Israel. Until recently, this was so, but the United States began to objectively lose its capabilities listed above, and to preserve them they need to reformat the existing world order - the idea of ​​creating a global state that involves the death of all national states (Israel is a national state), including Israel, came up. As far as I know, this led to a certain split among the Jews, some of whom continue to move in the wake of American politics (a logical pattern), another begins to protest against this policy (not for this that Jews have dreamed for centuries about their state to be destroyed for the sake of US policy or how said above "by the mighty of this world").
            Hence the question: can Israel maintain its statehood under the new US policy?
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 31 December 2017 14: 45 New
      0
      Quote: flicker
      After the west coast of the Euphrates was cleared (along which the largest and most significant agglomerations of eastern Syria are located)

      What is the most important part on the eastern bank of the Euphrates - there are oil fields, and on the western part is the desert, and what is its significance?
      1. flicker
        flicker 31 December 2017 15: 14 New
        +2
        Most significant cities (terrorists need a population that is in the cities, like a human shield), on the west bank. Yes, most of the oil fields on the east coast are under the control of the Kurds (with the light hand of the Americans) - but it was extremely important for them to occupy Abu Kemal in order to lay a land corridor to Jordan. Then a logistic opportunity opened up for the economic independence of the future Kurdistan. And so, politically independence of Kurdistan can be proclaimed: there is oil, but only it can be sold only to Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey belay
        So Russia has fulfilled its task - the Kurds are blocked, the Pentagon has no other warriors here. There is true Israel, but the Pentagon cannot count on it as a militant force, for obvious reasons. no
  19. owl
    owl 28 December 2017 22: 30 New
    +2
    The results of the Syrian campaign: Russia to war WITH MONKEYS ready!
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  21. Evgeny Rubtsov
    Evgeny Rubtsov 28 December 2017 23: 19 New
    0
    What types of military equipment did not pass the test of Syria?
  22. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 December 2017 06: 37 New
    0
    It was a real slap in the US military-industrial complex.

    ... slaps should be given to the mericatos - until the head falls off! ... angry
  23. stivev
    stivev 29 December 2017 07: 04 New
    0
    Stupid article, author of a hidden enemy
  24. Colonel
    Colonel 29 December 2017 12: 19 New
    +1
    Armed Forces Reform ......
    in the end the army settled on reconstructing the divisional structure

    and money went to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (not about monetary allowance). That’s all you need to know about military reform.
  25. Rodimtsev
    Rodimtsev 29 December 2017 19: 13 New
    0
    Everything is certainly true, but only our enemies didn’t leave anywhere, they calmly live in Russia, and most of them were even born here, their children are really more and more abroad ...
  26. cedar
    cedar 29 December 2017 20: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: Karabin
    Quote: cedar
    Visible

    Edros Zhe Fedorov in Kashchenko already waiting. The remaining NODovtsy, at a minimum, need a sanatorium.


    Open your eyes. Kashchenko has long moved to the Central Bank.
    The sanatorium is not a reservation, and it is there that the remains of the pale-faced Indians are genocide, which the Indians initially accepted and met as white gods.
    Look at the root. According to the plan of Satanists, 1 billion should remain on the planet ... Russians do not appear in it.
  27. turbris
    turbris 29 December 2017 21: 10 New
    0
    The state is obliged to have an armed forces capable of ensuring its security! If any, then all the talk about some sort of big war is nothing more than horror stories. Even now, no one in the world will dare attack Russia, under any circumstances and with the use of both nuclear and conventional weapons. Why? Yes, because before the start of hostilities, an assessment is made of the situation and the chances of success, and not a single state in the world has such chances, nor does NATO. It is at this level that our armed forces should be supported without getting involved in an arms race.
  28. andrew xnumx
    andrew xnumx 29 December 2017 21: 34 New
    0
    Fine. Only exercises need to be carried out even more ambitious. And finally, start the more active teachings of the reservists. Faster to recreate military departments in universities, to revive intensive primary military training in schools, as well as lessons in patriotic education. Return 2-year service in the Armed Forces of the recruits. As part of the military reform, dramatically increase the scale of production of cruise missiles and rearm the army and navy of the VKS with new missile weapons.
  29. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 30 December 2017 11: 59 New
    +2
    T-15 enters the troops ?! Author, enumeration. Well, why make another "patriotic" nonsense? They don’t come and when they start, nobody knows. And whether they will start at all is a huge question. Like Armata, which already, according to the assurance of the Ministry of Defense two years ago, was supposed to be in combat readiness units in the amount of 2017 pieces by the end of 200. The result is known to all. And yet, to develop and adopt, does not mean that the products will go to the masses. Examples - mass. The most famous, the T-90, which since 1992 no more than 400 units have appeared in the troops, which is generally a drop in the bucket.
  30. ajx
    ajx 30 December 2017 12: 26 New
    +1
    That's right, but missed the most important point. For a military man to sacrifice himself, he must know "for what ?!" The Americans have an army that is more powerful and more technologically advanced, and there are more allied money, but ... But this is with us. Are you sure that people are ready to die for the little dog - marubagdasaryan - fagots of television deputies, burglars, clowns from the database? and all this abomination of modern Moscow, for the oligarchs who robbed the country, for Putin-Medvedev brought people to poverty ?! But I'm not sure. Maybe at the first stage there will be cheers-volunteers, but as soon as dirt, blood, real death, severed arms, legs turned outwards, lice-dysentery, etc., at best, run home. And in the worst (for the authorities, and indeed for all) the bayonets will turn. Whereas? Norod is silent until he was raised and organized (no matter for what reason). And then- "Russian rebellion .........", "to the bottom, and then ....."
  31. Wolka
    Wolka 30 December 2017 18: 53 New
    0
    if you want to live in peace, prepare for war, and so all your life, you will relax a little, and you will certainly be devoured
  32. turbris
    turbris 30 December 2017 20: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Stock Officer
    Without ideology, there is no state. In the USSR there was an ideology that helped to win.

    Cool chop - is the main ideology? Nazi Germany also had its own ideology. It seems that the former political worker or did not serve in the army at all. Russia wins because practically in all wars it defends its territory and its people, everyone fights for his house and his family - that’s the whole ideology! And if in this case the enemy is also opposed by a modern and trained army, then victory will be gained with less losses. Is it really not clear that you are great, our "strategist" of the ideological front.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 31 December 2017 14: 47 New
      0
      Quote: turbris
      Russia wins because practically in all wars it defends its territory and its people, everyone fights for his house and his family - that’s the whole ideology!

      How does this relate to Syria, if about the television "fight on distant approaches", then how to explain the terrorist attacks in St. Petersburg?
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 31 December 2017 14: 58 New
        0
        Yes, it’s strange. That is, the result of this war in terms of terrorism is zero (terrorist attacks both occurred and occur). In terms of the economy is dubious. How much dough still need to be invested in Syria to bestow? Geopolitics comes to the fore (we are cooler than the states).
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 31 December 2017 15: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Shahno
          Yes, it’s strange. That is, the result of this war in terms of terrorism is zero. In terms of the economy is dubious. How much dough still need to be invested in Syria to bestow? Geopolitics comes to the fore (we are cooler than the states).

          "you" is someone, excuse me ... it’s just not clear with the flag ...
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 31 December 2017 15: 08 New
            0
            The flag is clear. There is the star of David. But I also don’t always understand why this is ... And don’t say that someone is behind us. They do not affect our opinion.
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 31 December 2017 15: 41 New
              +1
              Quote: Shahno
              But I also don’t always understand why this is ... And don’t say that someone is behind us. They do not affect our opinion.

              I agree. But, did our "bearded" tons "grind" - a fact? benefit? - undoubtedly, in terms of the Economy, how many "blocked" illegal oil flows? the benefit? -we-undoubtedly, will have to invest money in Syria, yes, but if the Power is adequate, there will be a return, this is also a fact. and what kind of adequate power? - elected, legitimate.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 31 December 2017 15: 49 New
                +2
                Quote: Andrew Y.
                also a fact. and what kind of adequate power? - elected, legitimate.

                Andryukha! Happy New Year to you! Health! We will defeat them
                Greetings to you and congratulates DRA-88!
                1. Andrey Yuryevich
                  Andrey Yuryevich 31 December 2017 15: 52 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Quote: Andrew Y.
                  also a fact. and what kind of adequate power? - elected, legitimate.

                  Andryukha! Happy New Year to you! Health! We will defeat them
                  Greetings to you and congratulates DRA-88!

                  Hello to you, Invincible Old Warriors! and all of you, Happy New Year! hi soldier
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 31 December 2017 17: 29 New
                    +1
                    Thank you Brother! And you remember Ptakh, Normal, Corsair .... our mutual friend, the Miner, who is now sitting in the trench with a machine gun in his arms ...
                    NVV, Wheel, which are no longer .........
                    1. Andrey Yuryevich
                      Andrey Yuryevich 31 December 2017 18: 05 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Thank you Brother! Do you remember

                      memory, like an elephant. hi
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 31 December 2017 15: 08 New
        0
        Quote: sa-ag
        Quote: turbris
        Russia wins because practically in all wars it defends its territory and its people, everyone fights for his house and his family - that’s the whole ideology!

        How does this relate to Syria, if about the television "fight on distant approaches", then how to explain the terrorist attacks in St. Petersburg?

        and terrorist attacks in the states? how to explain?
  33. turbris
    turbris 30 December 2017 21: 00 New
    0
    Quote: ajx
    That's right, but missed the most important point. For a military man to sacrifice himself, he must know "for what ?!"

    Another "wise guy" - the military takes the oath of allegiance and sacrifices himself, protecting his homeland and his people! So in the oath it is written, it is a pity that you do not know this. And for this, the state pays him a salary and a pension, somewhat higher than the rest of the civilians, and those who did not serve then begin to resent about this.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 1 January 2018 10: 01 New
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      noon ... but there is no one to support. how can you entrust your homeland ??? drinks
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 1 January 2018 10: 08 New
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        Andrew! I'm with you! I can be trusted! laughing drinks Always on guard! fellow
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 1 January 2018 15: 12 New
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          Quote: DEZINTO
          Andrew! I'm with you!

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  34. k_ply
    k_ply 4 January 2018 08: 42 New
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    IMHO: the Syrian campaign was not an autonomous overseas operation with its operational command, but was carried out using the general resources of the Russian Armed Forces (including the strategic components of the armed forces) and with direct reconciliation from the Center, taking into account the scale of the territory on which the anti-terrorist military actions -ra is not an indicator of combat readiness of the aircraft. And if mass bombing of enemy divisions with simultaneous suppression of the enemy’s air defense was really needed?
    The bearded were scattered and they scattered for the time being in the villages to lick their wounds, "make" or prepare new fighters. During the day, they always see peaceful peasants or traders, and at night - thugs.